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Speaker 13 We'll see. We'll bring half holiday.
We'll talk to you about that game as soon as it's over. It was a great day for college football today.
Every game was close.

Speaker 13 Ole Miss LSU was decided by less than a touchdown. Alabama, Georgia, Georgia, less than a touchdown.
Texas AM and Auburn, less than a touchdown.

Speaker 13 Indiana, less than a touchdown. All the games that we were expecting to be close, they were close.
Oregon and Penn State went into two overtimes.

Speaker 13 And again, as usual, Penn State will find a way to lose a game. And you want James Franklin to find a way to win, but they didn't.
The number seven, we're going to start with this game, guys.

Speaker 13 The number 17, Alabama Crimson Tide, upsets number five, Georgia in Athens between the hedges. Crimson Tide have now

Speaker 13 won three straight over the Bulldogs, 10 of the last 11. Hindsight 2020, do you agree with Kirby Smart? Not kicking the field goal, Johnny.

Speaker 13 Going forward on fourth and one at the 10-yard line early in the fourth. They got stopped and really never got back in position again.
Dropped a touchdown. Guy had a wide open touchdown.

Speaker 13 He dropped it, replayed, repaid Ryan Williams' debt because he dropped one early in the ball game. What do you think, Johnny? What should

Speaker 13 Kirby Smart had done given that situation?

Speaker 22 It's out of their character to rush, to go hurry up. That's not what they do.

Speaker 22 The play was close on third down to where maybe it could get reviewed. Why not take your time? Let them see if they're going to send it to the booth.
Get a good play that you want in.

Speaker 22 Why are you rushing to go do what we did at A ⁇ M and go hurry up?

Speaker 22 You don't do that. That's not your bread and butter.

Speaker 22 You don't have the right personnel on the field, but you think it's just a yard and you're going to sneak this little inside zone play, outside zone play in, and it's going to be, it's all cool.

Speaker 22 We'll be fine. We'll man it up hat on hat and get it in.
What are we doing? It's so, it's such a big part of the game to think you're just going to slide one in and a game against Alabama.

Speaker 22 So to me, I'm furious. I'm sitting there before the game.
I'm like, who do I like in this game? Georgia. Alabama hadn't showed me nothing.

Speaker 22 Nothing. Preseason.

Speaker 22 5,000. 5,000 on the dogs.
Okay. Second half, they're down.
I'll take them at plus seven. 5,000 on the dogs.
Again.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 And Johnny, I think, especially from a coaching standpoint, in a situation like that, even though it's not something that you normally do, because of the circumstance.

Speaker 22 in the situation in the team that you're playing you want you want to do everything you can you know to believe in your team and hoping they can

Speaker 22 get that fourth and one to give yourself some type of advantage. If anything, I would have got the points.

Speaker 22 You take the points in a situation like a play sheet during the week, during your practice, you got a section there that says third and fourth and one. You got plays that you like in there.

Speaker 22 You know, let's call one of those plays.

Speaker 22 Maybe a rollout, a little flat pass if you're going to do something, but you don't speed up your offense and do something that's completely unlikely speed up the runner to run the ball.

Speaker 13 Run the ball.

Speaker 22 And then, and then, right.

Speaker 22 Man, my dog did give him a little stiff arm and kind of tried to make something shake. He tried.
He gave everything he got. But where's our five-star running back? Why is he not on the field?

Speaker 13 Thank you. Why

Speaker 22 would hurry up the dude who's in there to block? And it's not his fault. This is coaching.

Speaker 13 You got a guy that's ran the ball 12 times for 119 yards and a touchdown. You had another guy who had the ball one carry for 43 yards.

Speaker 13 So that's not what we're going to do.

Speaker 13 We're going to be smart. You know what we're going to do? We're going to outsmart ourselves.

Speaker 13 We're going to run Harry up with our backup to the backup running back and see if we can catch Alabama off guard. Because see, that's when you try to like want to pretend how smart you are.

Speaker 13 Because what you do, ain't nobody, man. Kirby, what made you decide to go hurry up in that situation? Now they're asking the same thing, guys, in the press room.

Speaker 13 Kirby, why would you go hurry up in that situation?

Speaker 13 Why not call a timeout? Why not lead all night?

Speaker 22 You haven't had the lead all night. Why not? Take the car.

Speaker 13 Get it back to square.

Speaker 13 Why not your five-star running back?

Speaker 13 There are a million things you could have done.

Speaker 13 You took the millionth and one. So a million things that we could have done, Ocho.
Let's take the one thing we shouldn't do.

Speaker 13 Ta-da. And you wonder why Alabama has lost more than they've won.
Excuse me. Georgia has lost more to Alabama than they've won.
And a lot of times they've had the better of the teams.

Speaker 13 They've had the better of the teams. They should have beat Georgia.
They should have beat Alabama several times in the SEC championships. One time they had Mark Rick.

Speaker 13 I don't know why they throw the ball to the flat when they know they don't have any timeouts and there's less than 10 seconds on the clock. We see them lose when they got this superior team.

Speaker 13 They got all this talent that they did turn around and beat Alabama in the national national championship game but jamison williams blew out his knee in that game metie had blew out his knee and knee in sec championship game but a lot of times this has been unexcuse inexcusable for georgia to lose as many times as they lost to alabama and it really doesn't matter where they are it could be in tuscaloosa it can be between the hedges and athens it could be at the georgia dome now the mercedes-benz dome yeah it does not matter

Speaker 22 i just don't understand it this is drop is inexcusable on the deep ball that is a unbelievable dialed up in the dirt play, an unbelievable throw.

Speaker 22 It's picture perfect all the way down to catching the football.

Speaker 22 Well, yeah.

Speaker 22 He took his ads off that ball, Ocho.

Speaker 13 Hey, Johnny.

Speaker 13 What do you think, Ryan Williams?

Speaker 13 Ryan Williams had one just as perfect, Ocho. Yeah, same.
He's struggling this year, Ocho. He's struggling this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 He's dropped a lot of plays. Remember Florida State? How many he dropped, Ocho? Yes, sir.
He dropped a touchdown against Wisconsin.

Speaker 13 I don't know maybe

Speaker 13 the celebrity or the fact, but I don't know if it's lack of concentration, but he's not, he doesn't look like the guy that we saw the first seven, eight games last year,

Speaker 13 this year. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Ocho, yeah, I got a question for you both. You guys go into games, you go through spells as a receiver where you maybe have some drops.
You're not seeing it in. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 22 What is the process for you guys?

Speaker 22 I see guys go out to practice jug machine. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, yes.

Speaker 13 Take an hour out. Yes, Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 22 Feel it. Get your feel, get your flow back.
But for you guys, I want to hear, I'm curious as to what you do in that situation.

Speaker 22 Yeah. For me, when I got the yips like that, especially in a game where I dropped two, maybe three balls, it doesn't matter how much jug machine I do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
It's nothing like an

Speaker 22 in-game situation.

Speaker 22 I need to touch the ball. I need to feel the ball early in a game.
And my coaches already know that ahead of time. Don't give me a route.
Don't give me a slant or a curl. Throw me a smoke screen.

Speaker 22 Throw me a bubble. Throw me something quick so I can get my confidence back.
Once your confidence is shot after dropping two or three balls, it sticks with you, Johnny.

Speaker 22 It sticks with you. Uncle, you know how that feeling is.
Just let me touch it real quick just to get myself activated and back in.

Speaker 13 For me, I wanted... The passes that I drop, I go through the same route.
So if I was dropping an out route, I would go through that motion

Speaker 13 and catch it on the jugs. I'm not just standing there like this here.
So I'm going through the motion, or I'm going to have the quarterback to throw me the ball that I struggle with in the game.

Speaker 13 So if it was a slant, and much of the time I struggled on the left-hand side, so I'm lining up on the left and catching the slant like this. So I struggle with that.
So that's what I would work with.

Speaker 13 If I struggle with the basic cross, if I wasn't catching, even if I caught the ball, Ocho and Johnny, and I didn't catch it clean, I consider that a job because now I'm I'm bottling it.

Speaker 13 Had a guy been there, I would have dropped it because me bottling, he hit me. Now the ball could have popped up, could have gotten popped up in the air, or it could have hit the dirt.

Speaker 13 So anytime I didn't catch it clean, I worked on that. But a spell might have been a game.

Speaker 13 It wasn't no, I wasn't going no struggle in this game, struggling that game, clean for two more games, struggling.

Speaker 13 It wasn't none of that.

Speaker 22 Nothing like that.

Speaker 13 So I just think the thing is, Ocho,

Speaker 13 when you have a lot of success, and he had a lot of success last year. Early.
I think. Early.
Yes. Early.
And sometimes we start to read the press clippings and we start to believe.

Speaker 13 And I don't know if we're putting the work, the same work in, but you can't drop.

Speaker 13 That's a routine. Because on the road.

Speaker 13 against the number three team in the country that is a ginormous play ojo we've taken the crowd completely out of it yeah now they did go down and score but you want to hush a crowd a hostile crowd big play

Speaker 22 big plays amen we've seen him do it last year huh we've seen him do it last year multiple times against big teams in big games. So we know he's capable of doing it.
All he got to do is

Speaker 13 Georgia last year. Yeah, remember, he caught the one and he stopped.

Speaker 22 Stop and pirouette and came back.

Speaker 13 Yes, yes.

Speaker 22 Listen, all Ryan got to do just lock back in. Lock back in.
Remember, remember who you at, remember how you got it.

Speaker 22 That's a good thing, though, too, because he can't come out this year no matter what. So he gets

Speaker 22 no matter what. So that's okay.
Let him develop. Let him go do this.
Yeah. Let him have his.

Speaker 22 He's going to struggle to get to a thousand yards.

Speaker 22 He's going to struggle unless he really pops off in the back half of the season to go for a thousand.

Speaker 22 For him to come out this year after the season he had last year and have seven, 800 yards would be a disappointment. That's a hungry dude in offseason.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but those other guys kind of stepped up

Speaker 13 in his absence. But I was surprised.
I like Horton. Brooks had a big play, had some big plays, but I was surprised that Georgia,

Speaker 13 how poorly Georgia started the game.

Speaker 13 You know, the turn, I think they had a turnover early. As soon as they got the ball, they turned it over.
Georgia normally comes out. Look,

Speaker 13 this is not the same Georgia team that was winning national championships with all those five-star defensive linemen.

Speaker 13 Yeah, that was going, you know, they had five guys going the first round, and they got an offensive lineman going the first round, and you got a James Cook, and you got this one and that one.

Speaker 13 They don't have that level of talent. They talented now.
Don't get me wrong. So I don't want people to say,

Speaker 13 I don't know. I don't know right now if I'm picking anybody over high.

Speaker 13 Do we think they got enough offensively? You like Stockton. You like Stockton that much.

Speaker 22 He made some good throws tonight.

Speaker 22 That big ball that was dropped, that's a good throw. Aren't there times third down, third and nine, where he stepped up and ripped some balls?

Speaker 22 And that's what I look for throughout the night in a game.

Speaker 22 Big plays, you need something, you're backed up, and you step up with confidence, and you really let one come out of your hand and let it spin.

Speaker 22 You caught it, kind of got banged around on a third and nine. Like, that's a good throw, a confident throw.
That's one against a good defense, a good team. You build on it.
Right.

Speaker 22 So when you see stuff like that, is it consistent enough? Unk, that's why you're making that face. Is it consistent enough?

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 22 Not that's, but you grow as the season goes on. You learn from this.
You go back and watch the tape.

Speaker 13 Look, they got their work cut out for them. Yeah.
Vanderbilt, this is not your father's and grandfather's Vanderbilt.

Speaker 22 I went to dinner with Diego Javia tonight. They're hungry.

Speaker 13 Guess what?

Speaker 22 I'm going to Tuscaloosa, Alabama on Saturday, and I'm on the Vandy sideline.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. Because Alabama, Alabama, say we owe y'all after what y'all did does last year.
We owe y'all a big time.

Speaker 22 It on, is what them boys are saying.

Speaker 13 Vanderbilt. So Georgia, Alabama's slate, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Tennessee.
You remember Tennessee beat them last year.

Speaker 13 Vanderbilt beat them last year.

Speaker 13 It was those type of games that ended up keeping them out, although they were playing well at the end, that ended up keeping them out of the college football playoff as they extended, you know, added more teams to the playoffs.

Speaker 13 So it's going to be interesting. I don't know,

Speaker 13 guys. I don't know.
Let me know what you think, Johnny. Man, had Kalen DeBoer lost this game?

Speaker 13 Boy, they already calling for his head.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 They're already calling for his head.

Speaker 22 A game like this buying some time.

Speaker 22 I believe so. Game like this, buy him some time.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Two weeks ago, we used a lottery money.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 They still might. They got another lottery.
I don't know if anybody wasn't mega millions, but they still, they still, they still willing. And people are like, well, Alabama, look,

Speaker 13 I think Texas A ⁇ M, just

Speaker 13 for sake,

Speaker 13 Texas A ⁇ M has $20.4 billion in endowment money. Alabama has $2.6 billion.

Speaker 13 Florida, Florida, that's what we was talking about. Florida

Speaker 13 and what's the guy's name? Billy Napier. Yeah.
Buying him out versus what Texas A ⁇ M did with Jimbo. Jimbo.

Speaker 13 You see the difference? 20.4 billion in endowment and 2.6 billion in endowment. So this notion at Florida, no, no, no, no, no.
Texas money

Speaker 13 is different.

Speaker 22 It's different.

Speaker 22 Florida money. You got to look under the couch cushions and shit.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but hey,

Speaker 13 hey,

Speaker 13 hey,

Speaker 13 think about it. They gave that man 80 billion.
They say, you know what? 82,

Speaker 22 82, 82.

Speaker 13 We give you 82 to go away.

Speaker 13 And you go get another job, you still get to keep the 82.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Let that sink in.

Speaker 13 A lot of times, a lot of like NFL, what they'll do, they'll like, if you get another job or you become a coordinator, you become an analyst, they deduct that.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 13 Texas NM said, nah, we don't even care.

Speaker 22 Jim and Fisher wake up every day and look out on the porch and smoke a joint, like, damn, thank you, Aggie.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 that's a nice conversation. My baby

Speaker 22 light from the Aggie department, but we'll get there one day somehow.

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Speaker 13 The number six Oregon Ducks goes in to Beaver Stadium.

Speaker 13 Shocks the number three Penn State Netting lines by the score of 30 to 24th in double overtime. James Franklin, coaching in his 12th season at Penn State, is now 4-21 against top 10 opponents.
4-21.

Speaker 13 I tweeted: Is he ever going to win a big, meaningful game? Well, he went to the college football club. All I know is that he's 4-21.
Now, y'all, is that acceptable?

Speaker 22 Nah.

Speaker 13 Is that now? All I know is when I grew up, Penn State was a big thing.

Speaker 13 They, they, a, Joe Pa, rest his soul,

Speaker 13 they won.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And more times than not, he won games like that. Go back and look at that 87 national championship game against Miami.
They had no business winning that game.

Speaker 13 You look at what Miami had as far as Tursta Verde and Jerome Brown and Danny Stubbs and all those guys. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Penn State had no business whatsoever winning that game. And Penn State was known to win games like that.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 13 I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think they beat Georgia one year for the national championship or they kept Georgia from winning the national championship.

Speaker 13 I'm just shocked that if somehow he will find a way to lose to Ohio State, he'll find a way somehow, Johnny, to lose a game. You're like, okay, they're at home.
They're going to win this one.

Speaker 13 Oh, they got this one in the bag.

Speaker 13 And he'll F it up. Yeah.

Speaker 22 I mean, they were close all game, Johnny and Unk. It was a very good game, a very defensive game.

Speaker 22 Obviously,

Speaker 22 I don't,

Speaker 22 I'm confused as to

Speaker 22 where all the stars are. There's always every team, always, especially like Penn State, there's always a star.
Nobody stood out. Nobody stood out.

Speaker 22 I think everyone's somewhat even, and that's what I was looking for. I was looking for one player, one or two players that stand out and make a difference in that game.
And nobody stood out to me.

Speaker 22 So at that point, it all comes down to the coaching. It all comes down to decision-making and an important situation on who make the fewest mistakes that was going to win that game.
game.

Speaker 13 I think, I think I'm not impressed with that quarterback.

Speaker 22 Exactly. You look at number one five,

Speaker 22 14 to 25 for 137, two touchdowns in a pick. You go to their running back, their rush game, leading rusher, 12 carries, 54 yards.
You go to their leading receiver, four catches, 48 yards.

Speaker 22 That enough on that side of the ball. That ain't going to get you a win.

Speaker 22 It really isn't.

Speaker 22 We're talking about 15 being a guy. Can he go to the league? Is he the best quarterback in his class? Is the guy who Jode flashes last year?

Speaker 22 You don't want to step up and be that guy in that situation, man. 137 ain't it.
You're supposed to have that in a quarter in college.

Speaker 22 A whole game and double overtime.

Speaker 13 Thank you. So you get extra possessions in overtime.

Speaker 13 You played a game in two extra possessions. And you had 137 yards passing.
So you're at home against Oregon, and I'm supposed to believe that you're a top pick.

Speaker 13 I don't know. I don't think so, too.

Speaker 22 Here's what I'm thinking about as well, though. Let's look back to last year.
Oregon played Ohio State

Speaker 22 early on. Great game.
Yes. Comes down, and then you look what happens in the playoff.
Completely different thing.

Speaker 22 So I respect James Franklin. I like him as a coach, as a human being, as a program leader.

Speaker 22 I understand in big situations, four and 21, there's something going on there where you get nervous or you tighten up or get a little

Speaker 22 whatever it is, 4 and 21 in big games. Come on.
You throw darts at a wall, blindfolded, hit more of 4 than 21. What are we talking about?

Speaker 22 But at the end of the day, you can look at this as we played the number six team in the country really tough. And if we see them again,

Speaker 22 come on.

Speaker 22 It's all about perspective. I didn't handle this loss.

Speaker 13 But here's the thing.

Speaker 13 I agree. Don't get nobody.
See,

Speaker 13 I didn't think Oregon was going to beat Ohio State. They lost on a two-point conversion of Ohio State at Oregon.
What the hell you think that was going to happen if you meet on a neutral site?

Speaker 13 What happened?

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 The doors blowed off of them.

Speaker 13 If Oregon meet Penn State on a neutral site, again, if that's fortunate enough to happen, doors blown off.

Speaker 13 because they still got penn state i mean excuse me they still got uh ohio state they still got michigan on the schedule so are we sure they already got one loss early in the season are we sure

Speaker 13 are we sure

Speaker 22 penn state when it's all said nothing's gonna be there johnny you sure i mean look next week u say la bop bop northwestern bop iowa easy easy okay Maybe they give you a

Speaker 13 oh, they lose what they're gonna lose one of them, Johnny. That's Penn State.
That's James Franklin. He's gonna lose one of them.

Speaker 22 You come down to a matchup versus Ohio State. And for me,

Speaker 22 I ain't as confident as you sound in Ohio State's quarterback play.

Speaker 22 They're good as a team, as a unit. You rely on your D.
You got the receivers, you got the pieces.

Speaker 22 I ain't as confident in them as

Speaker 22 most people are. And then, look, you got Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska, Rutgers.

Speaker 22 Nebraska, I mean,

Speaker 13 where do they play Nebraska?

Speaker 13 At home.

Speaker 13 Yeah, they probably win that one.

Speaker 22 So, I mean, you go through it. You have a loss there as Ohio State.
You run the rest of the table. You have two losses.
And you're Penn State. You're at three right now.

Speaker 22 You end up in the top 12 for sure.

Speaker 22 For sure.

Speaker 13 You might be right.

Speaker 13 The question is, what does Ohio State look like when it's all said and done? How many losses does Oregon have when it's all said and done?

Speaker 13 I don't believe, let's just say for the sake of argument, Oregon runs the table.

Speaker 13 Does Oregon play Ohio State in the regular season? Are they going to only play in the championship game?

Speaker 13 They're getting ready to do away with championship games.

Speaker 22 They're not going to be in Oregon this year.

Speaker 13 Okay. Let's just say everybody's undefeated.
I don't believe they take it three times out of every 10.

Speaker 22 Illinois.

Speaker 22 Whoa, whoa,

Speaker 22 Illinois, not a cakewalk. Okay.
That's going to be a good game. Give you that.
That's a good game. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, Michigan to end the season.

Speaker 22 They don't lose more than two. They're in.

Speaker 13 True.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 13 That game, that Michigan game is going to be tough. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 13 Michigan Season.

Speaker 13 Summons here.

Speaker 13 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 13 They find a way to play the scratch, scratch, claw, and dig out a win against Ohio State. No matter how talented Ohio State is, Michigan somehow finds a way to win

Speaker 13 back.

Speaker 22 It's been there. We see it.
Every year it happens.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 But I'm just surprised that James Franklin, think about all the time, Johnny and Ocho, that we've seen Penn State have a superior team only to lose. Lose.

Speaker 13 Drew Aller, look, he might turn out to be one of the greatest Penn State quarterback in the NFL. And that ain't saying much because Penn State ain't had a whole lot of great quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 13 You go back to Chuck Fosana and you go back to Todd Blackledge or

Speaker 13 Kerry Collins, no dispute. Carrie Collins might be the best.

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 13 he does not impress me. As my grandma used to say, he doesn't raise my berry.

Speaker 13 I get nothing.

Speaker 13 I get nothing out of that.

Speaker 13 I really don't. I'm looking at him, bro.
I'm like, bro,

Speaker 13 what are we doing? And people have him rated really high, Johnny. Am I missing something?

Speaker 22 I mean,

Speaker 22 when it comes to the quarterback position, the quarterbacks are rated with, there's not much else out there. There's not much else out there.
We've been talking about the quarterback play.

Speaker 22 Even our boy Castellanos, who we were so hype about last week. I put some money on Florida State on Friday night.

Speaker 22 That ain't it. That was tough.
They sick.

Speaker 22 Back to the drawing board.

Speaker 22 yeah. They I think Florida State might have been feeling they self a little too much.

Speaker 13 You see what happens, what happens, Ocho, when expectations come? You see, when they played Alabama, they didn't have no expectations, right?

Speaker 13 Nobody now, all of a sudden, they're undefeated, they're on the road, and now you have some expectations. Could Florida State make the you know the college football playoff?

Speaker 13 Now you start to have expectations. No one had expectations from Florida State until they did what they did to Alabama, and they now all of a sudden,

Speaker 13 damn,

Speaker 13 to that?

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 13 Man, look,

Speaker 13 I don't get it. Like I said, Penn State, 4-21, 4-21, Penn State is 4-21 against top 10 opponents.
And it's not like they haven't been ranked

Speaker 13 in the top 10, their damn self. So it's not like, oh,

Speaker 13 that's a top 10 opponent and we're unranked or we're in, you know, we're 20, we're 25. Penn State, a lot of times, is ranked in the top 10

Speaker 13 their damn self.

Speaker 13 Look, maybe they're afraid they can't find anybody else than Drain Franklin, but I'm not so sure that he would have been able to be at any other institution this long with the pedigree that an institution has as long as Penn State.

Speaker 13 I'm shocked. I am absolutely shocked that he's been able to be there this long.

Speaker 13 You're not going to be at Alabama. You're not going to be at Georgia.
You're not going to be at any of the Ohio state with that.

Speaker 13 No, sir.

Speaker 13 No way. No way, no how.
4-21, and you lose it to Ohio State

Speaker 13 basically every year. How many times has he been to Ohio State since he's been there? Once?

Speaker 22 I think

Speaker 22 you get

Speaker 22 a little bit more leniency with understanding that you are playing a superior school.

Speaker 22 If you can somehow get a win.

Speaker 22 Yes, you understand that Ohio State has the better players.

Speaker 22 here's the thing they keep getting into the playoff they get into the playoff and go look good and be competitive that's the thing they keep getting

Speaker 22 wiggling their way in just good enough bare minimum type stuff so when you do that and you look back at the season as somebody who's overseeing that whole program you're like you know what you don't forget about that loss versus ohio state you don't forget about you forget about that

Speaker 22 like oh we went to the playoff damn a couple plays go here our way here and there. Like, we're good.
You look at it in that perspective, but in reality, when you lay it out, you lay it for what it is.

Speaker 22 If you're a top program,

Speaker 22 yeah,

Speaker 13 how many times? I think the biggest thing is this is where you measure a coach. How many times does he win a game he's not supposed to win?

Speaker 13 See, you look at Nick Saban, and all the times he beat Georgia when he wasn't supposed to, or he beat an LSU when he wasn't supposed to, or he beat no, or he beat these teams.

Speaker 13 How many times will we go into a game and we say, Man, Penn State ain't got no chance of winning this game, and they win it?

Speaker 13 They do. Why don't you? If it's a 50-50 ball game, they lose.

Speaker 13 So if we're looking at it and we're saying, okay, this is a game, I want to see somebody with Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick, a lot of times, he's winning games like he wasn't supposed to beat

Speaker 13 the greatest show on turf. He wasn't supposed to beat the Legion Legion of Boom.

Speaker 13 He was not supposed to go on the road

Speaker 13 and beat Patrick Mahomes. You have to win in order to get the credit that you deserve.
You're going to have to win games you're not supposed to win.

Speaker 13 You know that.

Speaker 22 You weren't supposed to win that Super Bowl in Atlanta.

Speaker 13 That's how you became Johnny. If you go to Alabama, if you go into Alabama and you lose, you're not Johnny football.
You've got to win. You won a game that you weren't supposed to win.

Speaker 13 Nobody gave you a chance. Y'all was what? Two, three touchdowns underdogs.

Speaker 22 But hey, hey, Uncle Johnny, the funny thing about it is, obviously, sometimes coaches are supposed to win games that they shouldn't win, you get the recognition, but it's hard to win games if you don't have the personnel.

Speaker 22 It's hard if they tell you to bake a cake, but you ain't got no goddamn, no, no mix.

Speaker 22 You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 13 Well, make cornbread.

Speaker 13 Make something palatable.

Speaker 22 You know what I mean?

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 13 I get Ocho, you're right. But that's the thing.

Speaker 13 Is winning.

Speaker 13 Let me ask you a question. Who had the most talent? The greatest show on turf or Coach Belichick's Patriots?

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 13 A game you're not supposed to win. You're undermanned.

Speaker 13 The great ones had to win no matter what.

Speaker 22 There ain't no excuses.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Giants versus the Patriots.
One team is 18-0.

Speaker 13 One team got,

Speaker 13 some argue, the greatest receiver ever.

Speaker 13 The greatest quarterback ever. The greatest head coach ever.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Ta-da.

Speaker 13 Yeah. So sometimes you win games when you're undermanned.
That's, oh, Joe, if all I do is win when I got the best team, how good a damn coach ever?

Speaker 22 Yeah. You're right.

Speaker 13 Jay, frankly, at some point in time, you're going to have to win games that nobody doesn't expect you.

Speaker 13 And now you're at home. You're the number three C.
People were expecting you to beat Oregon. Because

Speaker 13 you're the high-ranked team and you home.

Speaker 13 And somehow you find more, more times than not. So based on this, in 25 games against a top 10 opponent, more times than not.

Speaker 13 triple the times, quadruple the times he found ways to win, lose as opposed to winning.

Speaker 13 And that's a problem.

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Speaker 13 As we got number nine, Texas AM Johnny's

Speaker 13 number nine, Texas AM hold off the Auburn Tigers. I don't know how you get two names.
You get a War Eagle and your Tiger. But anyway, improved the 4-0 since the first time since 2016.

Speaker 13 Auburn finished the game 0 of 13 on third down conversion and had just 177 total yards against A ⁇ M.

Speaker 13 A ⁇ M had 414. Marcel Reed not turned the ball over against Texas A ⁇ M and hadn't had committed 13 penalties, the final score would have been a lot worse.
Johnny, that's your team.

Speaker 13 What did you like about what you saw?

Speaker 22 Listen, I talked to him every night after the games.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 22 as you're going into games like this and you're getting into SEC play and you're playing a good team like Auburn, you have to find ways throughout the season to go out and get a win, whether it's pretty, whether it's ugly, whether you have some penalties.

Speaker 22 But look at it as a whole. 15 to 22, that's seven incompletions.

Speaker 22 Doesn't throw a tutty, 207 yards passing. And for him, he rushed for minus 23 yards.
For a guy who uses his legs, that's an off night for him.

Speaker 13 But you look,

Speaker 22 Lavion Moss, 21 carries, 139. I've talked to him every week.
What I've told him is, listen, as good as that feels, as much as you want to go out and celebrate, Learn from me, man.

Speaker 22 Learn from me and buckle down. You are in a place that we ain't been in in 10 years, nine years.
Yeah. Grind it.
Go back this week. Go harder.
Take this, run with it, and go get better. Use the film.

Speaker 22 Use the stuff. Go to practice.
Take everything you can. The party is going to be there.

Speaker 22 And the party is going to be better whenever you get to the SEC championship game, whenever you keep winning, whenever you keep stacking good days, good weeks.

Speaker 22 So I'm in his ear every week in the most positive of ways. We're going to enjoy this for a couple of seconds right now because it feels good and you should enjoy it because it is a good team win.

Speaker 22 But at the end of the day, everybody in the country is waiting on AM to be AM of the past. The way you stick out and be legendary is to go and do what hasn't been done.

Speaker 22 He wants to go be up there with me at Texas AM. Keep winning.
Keep doing your thing. Keep being a leader.
That's how you get a state. That's how you get a statue.

Speaker 22 That's how you get your name on the building. That's what you want.
So right now, so far, so good. But everybody's waiting on the Aggies to Aggie.

Speaker 22 And there's a couple people that can keep that in perspective and keep it rolling.

Speaker 13 Look,

Speaker 13 AM defense was coming. I mean, 24 rushes, 52 yards, 18 of 33.
You had 33 pass attempts, and you only had 125 yards passing. That's supposed to be supposed to have 125-yard passes in three drives.

Speaker 22 Them boys playing good defense,

Speaker 22 real good defense. Most of the time, you think about college football too, huh? Johnny,

Speaker 22 defense is a part where they really don't play very well.

Speaker 13 It's hard because all these spread offenses and all this motion,

Speaker 13 this zone read stuff. If you see, if it's infiltrated the NFL.

Speaker 13 NFL sent their personnel down there to study Baylor, to study these lane kippers, to study these open offenses.

Speaker 13 You see a lot more of that now, college offense into the NFL as opposed to the nfl in college ain't nobody dotting the eye you find very few backs everyone basically the only team that really gets in the eye is you got

Speaker 13 uh derrick henry yeah and jonathan taylor yeah damn near everybody else is on the offset because very few very few quarterbacks are under center now johnny

Speaker 13 a lot of these guys get to college ojo and they have never ever taken a snap on the center under center yeah Some guys get to the NFL and they ain't taking a snap on the center.

Speaker 13 The first time they take a snap on the center is is at the damn pro date. Look at Johnny.
Johnny raised his hand like, I don't know.

Speaker 22 We have maybe six snaps in two years where we went under center. I got to the NFL.
I'm like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 13 You feeling good about your aggress? You think they can make it all the way down to Georgia?

Speaker 22 They have the pieces they need. They got, if

Speaker 22 they can come together as a band of brothers and they can look at it and say, you know, this defense, we stout.

Speaker 22 Offense, what we did versus Notre Dame, we can do versus anybody in the country.

Speaker 22 But it takes a special unit, not ones buying into the hype, not ones getting lackadaisical, not ones taking a week off and practice like, yo, we play somebody that we should beat this week.

Speaker 22 But somebody can come up and catch you. And that one game changes your whole trajectory.
So are the pieces there for AM? Are they a contender?

Speaker 22 Without a doubt, they played well enough against teams that are solid to prove that, but it takes consistency and it takes them coming every week with your lunch pail. You got to come and bring it.

Speaker 22 That's just what it comes down to. So if you want it, it's there.
You got the pieces. Now, injuries or whatever,

Speaker 13 sure,

Speaker 22 but they got the pieces.

Speaker 13 Do you guys got Texas or Oklahoma on your schedule?

Speaker 22 George is on the road.

Speaker 13 That'd be a good game. There's no love lost between you guys.

Speaker 22 And last year was a brutal one. Last year was tough in our own house, bringing the rivalry back.
We ain't sniffed a chance to win that game last year.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And y'all tried to block Texas from coming to the SEC. What are we doing?

Speaker 22 It was all good when we wanted to go.

Speaker 13 But when they want to go, we're mad about it.

Speaker 22 There's some things. There's some things that go on at A ⁇ M that.
You got to look at and kind of be like, what are we doing? But that just is what it is.

Speaker 22 Everybody wants their cake and to eat it too and to keep them out of something that's been really great for us.

Speaker 22 But like, listen, if 2012 didn't go the way that it went for us, our SEC trajectory could be way, way different. When we were coming into the SEC, all we heard was, you boys need to get ready.

Speaker 22 You're going to get smacked. This is different than what you're used to.
This ain't Iowa State. This ain't Kansas State.

Speaker 22 Now, we set ourselves on a good path with 2012 and 2013. But then there's a big lull there for eight, nine years where we really haven't had a lot of success.

Speaker 22 Outside of 2019 or 2020, Kellen Mons last year, and it was the COVID year, and we went to the Orange Bowl, lost one game. We haven't really had a lot of success.
So for us,

Speaker 22 this team has the chance to do what hasn't been done at Texas A ⁇ M in a long time.

Speaker 22 And for us and the type of program we are, if you're being honest, double-digit wins for us are something that are truly program changing. But we're in the second year of Elko.

Speaker 22 We go through the buyout. We go through the jokes.
We are the butt of the joke for years. Oh, you pay Jimbo this.
He has to go. You pay him off.

Speaker 22 You have success in the second year of Elko, you really start to build on something where that money now makes it worth it.

Speaker 13 Absolutely.

Speaker 13 When you pay Jimbo that kind of money, you got to get to an SEC championship game. You got to get into the college football player.

Speaker 13 It's just the way of life, Ocho. And, you know, Johnny, you understand this.
You played there.

Speaker 13 You know how devout and loyal that fan base is and you know how those big boosters are they emptied the well they found some money in their cushions to give jim bow that that kind of money i say they emptied their pockets because they got deep pockets their pockets go down to their pockets

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 they didn't have to dig too deep to find that. And so the expectations, like you said, you keep winning these games.
And like you said, okay, you win double digits.

Speaker 13 But at some point in time, they look over there and it's like, nah, we're in the big boy conference. We want to play.

Speaker 22 13 years in and you don't go once, unacceptable. I couldn't get it done.
Can't get it done for the nine years after. 13 years in at a conference and you don't sniff it.

Speaker 22 Unacceptable.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 13 they're going to have to figure this thing out.

Speaker 13 You believe they have the type of team that can get there?

Speaker 13 I mean, this thing is going to really be tough. I mean, Texas and Oklahoma say they got something to say about it.

Speaker 13 Georgia has an SEC loss, but hey, they're like, hey, we got something to say about it. Bama doesn't have an FCC loss yet, but

Speaker 13 they're probably six to seven team. Tennessee, Vanderbilt, that six to seven team that says, you know what? We think we got a realistic chance of being down in Adams.
Look at that schedule, though.

Speaker 22 Next week, Mississippi State. Then we play Florida.
We've already harped on Florida enough where they don't deserve no airtime.

Speaker 22 Arkansas, okay.

Speaker 13 They got the doors blowed up. They'll be number.

Speaker 22 All right.

Speaker 22 LSU, late in end of the 1025. All right.
That's going to be a good game.

Speaker 13 Man, Brian Kelly, you know, Brian Kelly threw up on himself. Okay.

Speaker 22 That's the one that sticks out. But outside of that, then you got Missouri, then you got South Carolina, then you got Sanford.
And then the end of the season,

Speaker 22 you got Texas. So like for it looks as a schedule, what the SEC could be, right? What your schedule could look like.
I would say overall, that's pretty favorable.

Speaker 22 Yes, you have to go win some good games against good teams. That's going to happen.
You're not playing in the Big Ten. You're not playing in the Big 12.
You're not playing in the ACC.

Speaker 22 You're not getting cake walks in conference. But if you look at who you can play versus who you have on your schedule, I would say it lines up really nice.

Speaker 13 What you guys got in the game, Carlton? Are they coming to y'all or are y'all going to them? Okay.

Speaker 22 And they beat us last year in a game that we felt like we should win, and they beat us bad.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 so that'd be that'd be a very interesting game just

Speaker 13 we'll see what johnny believes his team could be i know you're gonna be on board

Speaker 13 lord have mercy i could just imagine i can just imagine uh take a m and then

Speaker 22 i'm not gonna give the whole thing away but south carolina weekend

Speaker 22 those boys in that locker room from what I have coming in that game, are going to be more motivated than any team, any game in the last 15 years of Texas A ⁇ N.

Speaker 22 I got a real special treat coming for the Aggies, November 15th. Fire.
Program changing for us, in my opinion.

Speaker 13 You got Dre coming in. Huh?

Speaker 13 He's working on the album.

Speaker 22 We're going to Albany, Bahamas, work on the album.

Speaker 13 Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm just checking, just checking.
Guys, remember last week when Brian Kelly went on his rant about reporters asking about his offense?

Speaker 13 Well, in a 24-19 loss to Ole Miss, the Tigers mustered 2 of 11 on third downs and lacked an effective running game. They trudged 65 yards on 21 non-sack carries with a long of 10.

Speaker 13 Garrett Nussmeier, once again, had a very mediocre game against top competition. Nussmeyer managed less than 200 yards on 34 pass attempts, less than six yards an average per throw

Speaker 13 well you know what hey let's not ask brian kelly about his run game because he won you so now can we ask you about your run game now mr kelly hey like you said it was one game

Speaker 13 okay i would ask but see ocho what what's the what's the what's the motto ocho we never accept anything in a win we accept in a loss we wasn't in a loss so i'm gonna ask you now yeah

Speaker 13 is this running game is it acceptable Coach Kelly?

Speaker 13 Because you know, you were celebrating. You wanted to celebrate.
We won the game. The guys asked you to say, we won the game.
Guys, we won the game.

Speaker 13 Okay, now, now that you didn't win the game, do I have your undivided attention?

Speaker 13 Now, Coach Kelly, I'd like to ask you about your running game. Because last week you didn't want to talk about it because you won.
Can we talk about it now?

Speaker 13 What would you like to say about your running game?

Speaker 13 What's happening with your running game, Brian? Coach Kelly?

Speaker 13 i wonder i wonder did that reporter ask any questions after the game did you have to be the reporter because i was like coach kelly i remember last week you know you said you had won the game and you didn't want to talk about it you want to talk about the win now that you didn't win can i ask you about your running game

Speaker 22 This game was over

Speaker 22 when Kiffin's daughter and the LSU, dude, when that came out and he said, put on the over this game, this game was

Speaker 22 over.

Speaker 13 Johnny, what am I missing about Nussmeier? What am I I missing?

Speaker 22 Listen, there were times last year in games that I watched with him where I came away really, really impressed.

Speaker 22 Don't see it a lot, but for whatever reason, this year, we are seeing regression from guys who played well last year. Klubnik, Aller, Nussmeyer.

Speaker 22 They're taking steps backwards. And that's really, really rare.

Speaker 22 As the game goes on in college football, at least for me, because I can only speak on my perspective, the game got slower. It came more detailed, it came more guys being in positions.

Speaker 22 You see so much of the same coverage, you don't see a ton of nickel, dime, package, random blitz coming, you don't see a lot of different fronts, and you see the same base over, under, same positions, a lot of cover three

Speaker 22 teams that play quarters.

Speaker 22 So, for guys who have now played, Delson Meyer has played 20 games, these guys have played enough games, live bullets firing, to to where you got to come out and this should be toying with people.

Speaker 22 So it is weird, and it is like really like

Speaker 22 something's going on to where they're not getting coached in the right way.

Speaker 22 Because I was fortunate enough to be coached by guys who pushed me, who helped me learn the game, to where things felt slow for me. And the next year was better.

Speaker 22 It kept getting better and better and easier and slower to the point where you can do it with your eyes closed type of thing. But a lot of it comes with confidence too.

Speaker 22 Sometimes you get a little rattled. But what we're seeing right now, he's a better player than what he's showing.
And that's what I'm going to leave it at. I'm not going to dog on him.

Speaker 22 He's better than what he's showing.

Speaker 13 I think the thing is, if there's a chance, and this is what I always tell guys, Johnny, if there's a chance for you to come out, go and come out. Right.
Because

Speaker 13 the only place you can go is down.

Speaker 13 You can go down. It goes back to, I know you don't probably remember this, OJo.
Georgia Tech had a safety.

Speaker 13 His name was Kent Swillings. He's going to be a top 10 pick.

Speaker 13 He came back. He ended up getting drafted like the seventh round because he went to a bowl game and he had to cover.

Speaker 13 And it didn't work out so well for him.

Speaker 13 He got exposed. So that's my thing that I tell guys, well, you know, no, bro, only thing you can do is get exposed and deficiencies can be exposed.
And now all of a sudden,

Speaker 13 Boom. If you can go out and be a first round pick, man, go on and get that money.
Get close, go ahead, Because now, with the money that it is,

Speaker 13 you could be a 300 million dollar quarterback and you'll be 25 years, 25 years of age. You can be a 200 million dollar defensive player, especially lineman, D-line or

Speaker 13 edge rusher at 25 years of age. Go on and get close.
Go on and get 300 million at the quarterback. I agree with you Johnny.

Speaker 22 You can only go to the playoffs one time out of your first four years of your deal.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 So when I'm looking, when I look at, when I look at the guys that you mentioned, Nussmeyer, I I look at Clubmick, I look at Aller, I look at, I'm like,

Speaker 13 and these are the three games, guys that everybody had like top quarterbacks. I'm like, well, damn.

Speaker 13 Shadure probably thinking, man, I should have stayed my ass in school. I could have came back.
I'd have definitely been a top 10 pick with this class.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Yeah. I mean, when I say literally nobody stands out.

Speaker 13 Nobody, nobody.

Speaker 22 Week out like what you normally see? No.

Speaker 22 Nothing like that.

Speaker 13 I mean, none of the, it's been a while, guys. It's been a while that

Speaker 13 we could honestly turn the TV on and say, you know what?

Speaker 13 I don't see no quarterbacks to get excited about.

Speaker 22 You wake up on Saturday and you're like, damn, I'm excited to go watch right now. I have to watch that game.

Speaker 13 None. None.

Speaker 13 I mean, I don't even know. Johnny, are they even going to give the Heisman out this year? I mean, you, you got the award, so you would know.
Are they going to give the award out this year?

Speaker 22 Are they just going to hold a couple guys out there that are floating, doing enough. Like Diego Pavia has a real chance.
He got a chance if he goes and continues to play.

Speaker 22 Six buddies today, five passing, one rushing.

Speaker 22 Big games on the schedule coming up for them. You play Tennessee, you play Alabama.
You're at Bandy. Yeah.
You win the season 10 and one in the playoff. You keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 22 You play the way you play.

Speaker 22 Marcel Reed, you guys run the table, go undefeated. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Come on.

Speaker 13 Man, man. I'm looking at some of these guys.
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 13 The committee is going to be like, nah, we good. We holding off.

Speaker 22 Hold on to it.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have a lot of people.
Hey, they can go ahead and slide in another one.

Speaker 22 Hey, I'm sitting here trying to think about that question you just asked when it comes to college football. What team do you sit there? Even a player.

Speaker 22 Most of the time, we've always gotten one player on one team that

Speaker 22 to watch. I mean, maybe Ohio State and Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 13 That might be the only one. He's the only one that you get excited about.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And then you get frustrated when they don't throw him the damn ball. And then I turn the TV from him.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Because I like, maybe, you know, I'll be thinking in my head, well, maybe I'm bringing in bad luck. Maybe because I'm watching and he knows I watch it and they won't throw him the ball.
So maybe if

Speaker 22 it's week four, we need to give them a little more time. Maybe they're a little rusty.
Maybe it's one of them years where taking a little time rust off.

Speaker 13 Johnny, that

Speaker 13 you weren't like that when you after you won the highs when you came back, you picked right back up.

Speaker 13 That's what guys do. Go back and look at the guy.
Look at uh Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 13 Trevor Lawrence, when Trevor Lawrence stepped on, when he stepped on campus, yeah, Trevor Lawrence ended up taking the guy's job, wins the national championship.

Speaker 13 He's like, That guy's gonna be the number one pick. And I'll be damned, he played like he was gonna be the number one pick.
Jameis, too.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 13 Jameis, yes, yeah, Bowler,

Speaker 13 Kyler, Mariota.

Speaker 13 I mean, come on, man.

Speaker 13 What are we doing here? Look, and I understand. Maybe that's unfair.
It's not unfair to have these expectations when I'm just going by the projection, and everybody look at these guys.

Speaker 13 These guys can spin it. Bro, I'm looking at these guys, and I am unimpressed.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I think of the guys that we mentioned

Speaker 13 leaves a lot to be desired.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 13 they got players around them.

Speaker 13 It's not like the cupboards are bare. And I understand.
This is college football. These guys are 18, 19, 20 years of age.
But

Speaker 13 I mean, we should have expectations. I mean,

Speaker 13 and these are the top guys. Aller was everybody, you know, he come back.
You're going to improve upon what he did at Penn State. Enough smirk.

Speaker 13 I think his dad was an offensive coordinator, wasn't he, Johnny? Isn't his dad an offensive coordinator? And, you know, and so all the guys that were mentioning, and I'm like, well, damn.

Speaker 13 I'm just,

Speaker 13 like I said, I haven't been really impressed with a whole lot of quarterbacks spinning the football this year.

Speaker 13 Maybe I need, maybe I need to go out. Maybe I just need to watch some random.
No, I did, uh, because I did get access today to

Speaker 22 I've been talking with Jake Spavital, who's the OC of Baylor. Their quarterback right now is playing at a very, very high level.

Speaker 22 He texted me today, yo, we had another one of those days where RQB is playing high-level football.

Speaker 22 And for the people who haven't tuned into a Baylor game and you probably haven't because they're not really ranked,

Speaker 22 their offense and what he's doing at the quarterback position is something to go and watch. But he gave me access to be able to go watch the all 24 film and to be able to go see all the version.

Speaker 22 So during the weeks now, I'm really going to start looking and seeing some of these guys.

Speaker 22 I'm going to come back with some good feedback on Saturday nights to some guys and be able to have some stuff to be able to show because it's out there. You just got to look hard enough to go find it.

Speaker 22 It's not the stuff you're going to see on the highlights and this and this and that because it may be from different teams. But right now,

Speaker 22 especially going into this next week,

Speaker 22 Diego Pavia has a chance to really go into Tuscaloosa and do something this weekend.

Speaker 22 Really. This is the opportunity.

Speaker 13 I mean, Carson Beck, could Carson Beck, I mean, the guy from Arizona State, Levitt, he played really well at the tail end of last year, kind of playing well right now. I mean, we like him.

Speaker 13 I mean, I mean, I might have to start watching him.

Speaker 22 I agree. He's fun to watch.
He's making some plays where I've seen five, six highlights clips this year. Go back into last year a little bit where you're like, okay, white boy, let's see it.

Speaker 13 The Division II transfer Trinidad Chambliss passed for 314 yards at a touchdown. His third straight game, his third straight 300-yard game since taking over injured quarterback Austin Simmons.

Speaker 13 I mean,

Speaker 13 look, you can say what you want to say about Lane Kiffy. That mofo can call him Markov.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. Man,

Speaker 13 that play that he called.

Speaker 22 Wait, which one? Which one?

Speaker 13 Which one? Which one?

Speaker 13 To get that first down. First down?

Speaker 13 Yeah, man.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Hell, I still don't know where the guy came from. Hell, I think he came off the sideline.
I said, how did...

Speaker 13 This big dude get so wide open. And he got the first down.
I said, nah, I ain't going no further. Let me go on down here.
We're good here. And I love Lane because he shows emotion.

Speaker 13 I love, you know, these lot of these coaches, they be having a little pad. Oh, they're not excited.
Yeah, that's what I do. Nah, Lane was like, yeah,

Speaker 13 yeah.

Speaker 13 I like that.

Speaker 22 Yeah, Lane be into it. You got to look back at the days, even when he was at Alabama.
And I love this because I would see it with Kyle Shanahan at times. I've seen it with Kingsbury at times.

Speaker 22 The elite A-plus coaches, when they have a play dialed up against the coverage, they know they're going to get in situational football. And you'll see it in Alabama.
The ball snap and his hands go up.

Speaker 22 And he already signals.

Speaker 13 You already know.

Speaker 22 Corners, got the basic. We're going to throw the post over the top.
Safety's coming down because that's what he does. He's greedy going for the pick and launch it.

Speaker 22 All you got to do is step back, close your eyes, and throw it.

Speaker 22 So when you get coaches like that who know what they're going to get because they sit there and grind enough tape and have done it enough, it's an impressive thing. And guess what?

Speaker 22 You don't see it all across the land, but you see it with the good ones.

Speaker 13 Yep. And they know they got something good cooked up.

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