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It was a great day for college football today.

Every game was close.

Ole Miss LSU was decided by less than a touchdown.

Alabama, Georgia, Georgia, less than a touchdown.

Texas AM and Auburn, less than a touchdown.

Indiana, less than a touchdown.

All the games that we were expecting to be close, they were close.

Oregon and Penn State went into two overtimes.

And again, as usual, Penn State will find a way to lose a game.

And you want James Franklin to find a way to win, but they didn't.

The number seven, we're going to start with this game, guys.

The number 17, Alabama Crimson Tide, upsets number five, Georgia in Athens between the hedges.

Crimson Tide have now

won three straight over the Bulldogs, 10 of the last 11.

Hindsight 2020, do you agree with Kirby Smart?

Not kicking the field goal, Johnny.

Going forward on fourth and one at the 10-yard line early in the fourth.

They got stopped and really never got back in position again.

Dropped a touchdown.

Guy had a wide open touchdown.

He dropped it, replayed, repaid Ryan Williams' debt because he dropped one early in the ball game.

What do you think, Johnny?

What should

Kirby Smart had done given that situation?

It's out of their character to rush, to go hurry up.

That's not what they do.

The play was close on third down to where maybe it could get reviewed.

Why not take your time?

Let them see if they're going to send it to the booth.

Get a good play that you want in.

Why are you rushing to go do what we did at A ⁇ M and go hurry up?

You don't do that.

That's not your bread and butter.

You don't have the right personnel on the field, but you think it's just a yard and you're going to sneak this little inside zone play, outside zone play in, and it's going to be, it's all cool.

We'll be fine.

We'll man it up hat on hat and get it in.

What are we doing?

It's so, it's such a big part of the game to think you're just going to slide one in and a game against Alabama.

So to me, I'm furious.

I'm sitting there before the game.

I'm like, who do I like in this game?

Georgia.

Alabama hadn't showed me nothing.

Nothing.

Preseason.

5,000.

5,000 on the dogs.

Okay.

Second half, they're down.

I'll take them at plus seven.

5,000 on the dogs.

Again.

Yeah.

And Johnny, I think, especially from a coaching standpoint, in a situation like that, even though it's not something that you normally do, because of the circumstance.

in the situation in the team that you're playing you want you want to do everything you can you know to believe in your team and hoping they can

get that fourth and one to give yourself some type of advantage.

If anything, I would have got the points.

You take the points in a situation like a play sheet during the week, during your practice, you got a section there that says third and fourth and one.

You got plays that you like in there.

You know, let's call one of those plays.

Maybe a rollout, a little flat pass if you're going to do something, but you don't speed up your offense and do something that's completely unlikely speed up the runner to run the ball.

Run the ball.

And then, and then, right.

Man, my dog did give him a little stiff arm and kind of tried to make something shake.

He tried.

He gave everything he got.

But where's our five-star running back?

Why is he not on the field?

Thank you.

Why

would hurry up the dude who's in there to block?

And it's not his fault.

This is coaching.

You got a guy that's ran the ball 12 times for 119 yards and a touchdown.

You had another guy who had the ball one carry for 43 yards.

So that's not what we're going to do.

We're going to be smart.

You know what we're going to do?

We're going to outsmart ourselves.

We're going to run Harry up with our backup to the backup running back and see if we can catch Alabama off guard.

Because see, that's when you try to like want to pretend how smart you are.

Because what you do, ain't nobody, man.

Kirby, what made you decide to go hurry up in that situation?

Now they're asking the same thing, guys, in the press room.

Kirby, why would you go hurry up in that situation?

Why not call a timeout?

Why not lead all night?

You haven't had the lead all night.

Why not?

Take the car.

Get it back to square.

Why not your five-star running back?

There are a million things you could have done.

You took the millionth and one.

So a million things that we could have done, Ocho.

Let's take the one thing we shouldn't do.

Ta-da.

And you wonder why Alabama has lost more than they've won.

Excuse me.

Georgia has lost more to Alabama than they've won.

And a lot of times they've had the better of the teams.

They've had the better of the teams.

They should have beat Georgia.

They should have beat Alabama several times in the SEC championships.

One time they had Mark Rick.

I don't know why they throw the ball to the flat when they know they don't have any timeouts and there's less than 10 seconds on the clock.

We see them lose when they got this superior team.

They got all this talent that they did turn around and beat Alabama in the national national championship game but jamison williams blew out his knee in that game metie had blew out his knee and knee in sec championship game but a lot of times this has been unexcuse inexcusable for georgia to lose as many times as they lost to alabama and it really doesn't matter where they are it could be in tuscaloosa it can be between the hedges and athens it could be at the georgia dome now the mercedes-benz dome yeah it does not matter

i just don't understand it this is drop is inexcusable on the deep ball that is a unbelievable dialed up in the dirt play, an unbelievable throw.

It's picture perfect all the way down to catching the football.

Well, yeah.

He took his ads off that ball, Ocho.

Hey, Johnny.

What do you think, Ryan Williams?

Ryan Williams had one just as perfect, Ocho.

Yeah, same.

He's struggling this year, Ocho.

He's struggling this year.

Yeah.

He's dropped a lot of plays.

Remember Florida State?

How many he dropped, Ocho?

Yes, sir.

He dropped a touchdown against Wisconsin.

I don't know maybe

the celebrity or the fact, but I don't know if it's lack of concentration, but he's not, he doesn't look like the guy that we saw the first seven, eight games last year,

this year.

Yeah.

Ocho, yeah, I got a question for you both.

You guys go into games, you go through spells as a receiver where you maybe have some drops.

You're not seeing it in.

Oh, absolutely.

What is the process for you guys?

I see guys go out to practice jug machine.

Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, yes.

Take an hour out.

Yes, Yes.

Yes.

Feel it.

Get your feel, get your flow back.

But for you guys, I want to hear, I'm curious as to what you do in that situation.

Yeah.

For me, when I got the yips like that, especially in a game where I dropped two, maybe three balls, it doesn't matter how much jug machine I do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

It's nothing like an

in-game situation.

I need to touch the ball.

I need to feel the ball early in a game.

And my coaches already know that ahead of time.

Don't give me a route.

Don't give me a slant or a curl.

Throw me a smoke screen.

Throw me a bubble.

Throw me something quick so I can get my confidence back.

Once your confidence is shot after dropping two or three balls, it sticks with you, Johnny.

It sticks with you.

Uncle, you know how that feeling is.

Just let me touch it real quick just to get myself activated and back in.

For me, I wanted...

The passes that I drop, I go through the same route.

So if I was dropping an out route, I would go through that motion

and catch it on the jugs.

I'm not just standing there like this here.

So I'm going through the motion, or I'm going to have the quarterback to throw me the ball that I struggle with in the game.

So if it was a slant, and much of the time I struggled on the left-hand side, so I'm lining up on the left and catching the slant like this.

So I struggle with that.

So that's what I would work with.

If I struggle with the basic cross, if I wasn't catching, even if I caught the ball, Ocho and Johnny, and I didn't catch it clean, I consider that a job because now I'm I'm bottling it.

Had a guy been there, I would have dropped it because me bottling, he hit me.

Now the ball could have popped up, could have gotten popped up in the air, or it could have hit the dirt.

So anytime I didn't catch it clean, I worked on that.

But a spell might have been a game.

It wasn't no, I wasn't going no struggle in this game, struggling that game, clean for two more games, struggling.

It wasn't none of that.

Nothing like that.

So I just think the thing is, Ocho,

when you have a lot of success, and he had a lot of success last year.

Early.

I think.

Early.

Yes.

Early.

And sometimes we start to read the press clippings and we start to believe.

And I don't know if we're putting the work, the same work in, but you can't drop.

That's a routine.

Because on the road.

against the number three team in the country that is a ginormous play ojo we've taken the crowd completely out of it yeah now they did go down and score but you want to hush a crowd a hostile crowd big play

big plays amen we've seen him do it last year huh we've seen him do it last year multiple times against big teams in big games.

So we know he's capable of doing it.

All he got to do is

Georgia last year.

Yeah, remember, he caught the one and he stopped.

Stop and pirouette and came back.

Yes, yes.

Listen, all Ryan got to do just lock back in.

Lock back in.

Remember, remember who you at, remember how you got it.

That's a good thing, though, too, because he can't come out this year no matter what.

So he gets

no matter what.

So that's okay.

Let him develop.

Let him go do this.

Yeah.

Let him have his.

He's going to struggle to get to a thousand yards.

He's going to struggle unless he really pops off in the back half of the season to go for a thousand.

For him to come out this year after the season he had last year and have seven, 800 yards would be a disappointment.

That's a hungry dude in offseason.

Yeah.

Yeah, but those other guys kind of stepped up

in his absence.

But I was surprised.

I like Horton.

Brooks had a big play, had some big plays, but I was surprised that Georgia,

how poorly Georgia started the game.

You know, the turn, I think they had a turnover early.

As soon as they got the ball, they turned it over.

Georgia normally comes out.

Look,

this is not the same Georgia team that was winning national championships with all those five-star defensive linemen.

Yeah, that was going, you know, they had five guys going the first round, and they got an offensive lineman going the first round, and you got a James Cook, and you got this one and that one.

They don't have that level of talent.

They talented now.

Don't get me wrong.

So I don't want people to say,

I don't know.

I don't know right now if I'm picking anybody over high.

Do we think they got enough offensively?

You like Stockton.

You like Stockton that much.

He made some good throws tonight.

That big ball that was dropped, that's a good throw.

Aren't there times third down, third and nine, where he stepped up and ripped some balls?

And that's what I look for throughout the night in a game.

Big plays, you need something, you're backed up, and you step up with confidence, and you really let one come out of your hand and let it spin.

You caught it, kind of got banged around on a third and nine.

Like, that's a good throw, a confident throw.

That's one against a good defense, a good team.

You build on it.

Right.

So when you see stuff like that, is it consistent enough?

Unk, that's why you're making that face.

Is it consistent enough?

Right.

Not that's, but you grow as the season goes on.

You learn from this.

You go back and watch the tape.

Look, they got their work cut out for them.

Yeah.

Vanderbilt, this is not your father's and grandfather's Vanderbilt.

I went to dinner with Diego Javia tonight.

They're hungry.

Guess what?

I'm going to Tuscaloosa, Alabama on Saturday, and I'm on the Vandy sideline.

Oh, yeah.

Because Alabama, Alabama, say we owe y'all after what y'all did does last year.

We owe y'all a big time.

It on, is what them boys are saying.

Vanderbilt.

So Georgia, Alabama's slate, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Tennessee.

You remember Tennessee beat them last year.

Vanderbilt beat them last year.

It was those type of games that ended up keeping them out, although they were playing well at the end, that ended up keeping them out of the college football playoff as they extended, you know, added more teams to the playoffs.

So it's going to be interesting.

I don't know,

guys.

I don't know.

Let me know what you think, Johnny.

Man, had Kalen DeBoer lost this game?

Boy, they already calling for his head.

Yeah.

They're already calling for his head.

A game like this buying some time.

I believe so.

Game like this, buy him some time.

Yeah.

Two weeks ago, we used a lottery money.

Yeah.

They still might.

They got another lottery.

I don't know if anybody wasn't mega millions, but they still, they still, they still willing.

And people are like, well, Alabama, look,

I think Texas A ⁇ M, just

for sake,

Texas A ⁇ M has $20.4 billion in endowment money.

Alabama has $2.6 billion.

Florida, Florida, that's what we was talking about.

Florida

and what's the guy's name?

Billy Napier.

Yeah.

Buying him out versus what Texas A ⁇ M did with Jimbo.

Jimbo.

You see the difference?

20.4 billion in endowment and 2.6 billion in endowment.

So this notion at Florida, no, no, no, no, no.

Texas money

is different.

It's different.

Florida money.

You got to look under the couch cushions and shit.

Yeah, but hey,

hey,

hey,

think about it.

They gave that man 80 billion.

They say, you know what?

82,

82, 82.

We give you 82 to go away.

And you go get another job, you still get to keep the 82.

Yeah.

Let that sink in.

A lot of times, a lot of like NFL, what they'll do, they'll like, if you get another job or you become a coordinator, you become an analyst, they deduct that.

Right.

Texas NM said, nah, we don't even care.

Jim and Fisher wake up every day and look out on the porch and smoke a joint, like, damn, thank you, Aggie.

Yeah,

that's a nice conversation.

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Shocks the number three Penn State Netting lines by the score of 30 to 24th in double overtime.

James Franklin, coaching in his 12th season at Penn State, is now 4-21 against top 10 opponents.

4-21.

I tweeted: Is he ever going to win a big, meaningful game?

Well, he went to the college football club.

All I know is that he's 4-21.

Now, y'all, is that acceptable?

Nah.

Is that now?

All I know is when I grew up, Penn State was a big thing.

They, they, a, Joe Pa, rest his soul,

they won.

Yeah.

And more times than not, he won games like that.

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Yeah.

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And Penn State was known to win games like that.

Right.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think they beat Georgia one year for the national championship or they kept Georgia from winning the national championship.

I'm just shocked that if somehow he will find a way to lose to Ohio State, he'll find a way somehow, Johnny, to lose a game.

You're like, okay, they're at home.

They're going to win this one.

Oh, they got this one in the bag.

And he'll F it up.

Yeah.

I mean, they were close all game, Johnny and Unk.

It was a very good game, a very defensive game.

Obviously,

I don't,

I'm confused as to

where all the stars are.

There's always every team, always, especially like Penn State, there's always a star.

Nobody stood out.

Nobody stood out.

I think everyone's somewhat even, and that's what I was looking for.

I was looking for one player, one or two players that stand out and make a difference in that game.

And nobody stood out to me.

So at that point, it all comes down to the coaching.

It all comes down to decision-making and an important situation on who make the fewest mistakes that was going to win that game.

game.

I think, I think I'm not impressed with that quarterback.

Exactly.

You look at number one five,

14 to 25 for 137, two touchdowns in a pick.

You go to their running back, their rush game, leading rusher, 12 carries, 54 yards.

You go to their leading receiver, four catches, 48 yards.

That enough on that side of the ball.

That ain't going to get you a win.

It really isn't.

We're talking about 15 being a guy.

Can he go to the league?

Is he the best quarterback in his class?

Is the guy who Jode flashes last year?

You don't want to step up and be that guy in that situation, man.

137 ain't it.

You're supposed to have that in a quarter in college.

A whole game and double overtime.

Thank you.

So you get extra possessions in overtime.

You played a game in two extra possessions.

And you had 137 yards passing.

So you're at home against Oregon, and I'm supposed to believe that you're a top pick.

I don't know.

I don't think so, too.

Here's what I'm thinking about as well, though.

Let's look back to last year.

Oregon played Ohio State

early on.

Great game.

Yes.

Comes down, and then you look what happens in the playoff.

Completely different thing.

So I respect James Franklin.

I like him as a coach, as a human being, as a program leader.

I understand in big situations, four and 21, there's something going on there where you get nervous or you tighten up or get a little

whatever it is, 4 and 21 in big games.

Come on.

You throw darts at a wall, blindfolded, hit more of 4 than 21.

What are we talking about?

But at the end of the day, you can look at this as we played the number six team in the country really tough.

And if we see them again,

come on.

It's all about perspective.

I didn't handle this loss.

But here's the thing.

I agree.

Don't get nobody.

See,

I didn't think Oregon was going to beat Ohio State.

They lost on a two-point conversion of Ohio State at Oregon.

What the hell you think that was going to happen if you meet on a neutral site?

What happened?

Yeah.

The doors blowed off of them.

If Oregon meet Penn State on a neutral site, again, if that's fortunate enough to happen, doors blown off.

because they still got penn state i mean excuse me they still got uh ohio state they still got michigan on the schedule so are we sure they already got one loss early in the season are we sure

are we sure

penn state when it's all said nothing's gonna be there johnny you sure i mean look next week u say la bop bop northwestern bop iowa easy easy okay Maybe they give you a

oh, they lose what they're gonna lose one of them, Johnny.

That's Penn State.

That's James Franklin.

He's gonna lose one of them.

You come down to a matchup versus Ohio State.

And for me,

I ain't as confident as you sound in Ohio State's quarterback play.

They're good as a team, as a unit.

You rely on your D.

You got the receivers, you got the pieces.

I ain't as confident in them as

most people are.

And then, look, you got Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska, Rutgers.

Nebraska, I mean,

where do they play Nebraska?

At home.

Yeah, they probably win that one.

So, I mean, you go through it.

You have a loss there as Ohio State.

You run the rest of the table.

You have two losses.

And you're Penn State.

You're at three right now.

You end up in the top 12 for sure.

For sure.

You might be right.

The question is, what does Ohio State look like when it's all said and done?

How many losses does Oregon have when it's all said and done?

I don't believe, let's just say for the sake of argument, Oregon runs the table.

Does Oregon play Ohio State in the regular season?

Are they going to only play in the championship game?

They're getting ready to do away with championship games.

They're not going to be in Oregon this year.

Okay.

Let's just say everybody's undefeated.

I don't believe they take it three times out of every 10.

Illinois.

Whoa, whoa,

Illinois, not a cakewalk.

Okay.

That's going to be a good game.

Give you that.

That's a good game.

Minnesota, Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, Michigan to end the season.

They don't lose more than two.

They're in.

True.

Right.

That game, that Michigan game is going to be tough.

I don't know what it is.

Michigan Season.

Summons here.

It doesn't matter.

They find a way to play the scratch, scratch, claw, and dig out a win against Ohio State.

No matter how talented Ohio State is, Michigan somehow finds a way to win

back.

It's been there.

We see it.

Every year it happens.

Yeah.

But I'm just surprised that James Franklin, think about all the time, Johnny and Ocho, that we've seen Penn State have a superior team only to lose.

Lose.

Drew Aller, look, he might turn out to be one of the greatest Penn State quarterback in the NFL.

And that ain't saying much because Penn State ain't had a whole lot of great quarterbacks in the NFL.

You go back to Chuck Fosana and you go back to Todd Blackledge or

Kerry Collins, no dispute.

Carrie Collins might be the best.

But

he does not impress me.

As my grandma used to say, he doesn't raise my berry.

I get nothing.

I get nothing out of that.

I really don't.

I'm looking at him, bro.

I'm like, bro,

what are we doing?

And people have him rated really high, Johnny.

Am I missing something?

I mean,

when it comes to the quarterback position, the quarterbacks are rated with, there's not much else out there.

There's not much else out there.

We've been talking about the quarterback play.

Even our boy Castellanos, who we were so hype about last week.

I put some money on Florida State on Friday night.

That ain't it.

That was tough.

They sick.

Back to the drawing board.

yeah.

They I think Florida State might have been feeling they self a little too much.

You see what happens, what happens, Ocho, when expectations come?

You see, when they played Alabama, they didn't have no expectations, right?

Nobody now, all of a sudden, they're undefeated, they're on the road, and now you have some expectations.

Could Florida State make the you know the college football playoff?

Now you start to have expectations.

No one had expectations from Florida State until they did what they did to Alabama, and they now all of a sudden,

damn,

to that?

Right.

Man, look,

I don't get it.

Like I said, Penn State, 4-21, 4-21, Penn State is 4-21 against top 10 opponents.

And it's not like they haven't been ranked

in the top 10, their damn self.

So it's not like, oh,

that's a top 10 opponent and we're unranked or we're in, you know, we're 20, we're 25.

Penn State, a lot of times, is ranked in the top 10

their damn self.

Look, maybe they're afraid they can't find anybody else than Drain Franklin, but I'm not so sure that he would have been able to be at any other institution this long with the pedigree that an institution has as long as Penn State.

I'm shocked.

I am absolutely shocked that he's been able to be there this long.

You're not going to be at Alabama.

You're not going to be at Georgia.

You're not going to be at any of the Ohio state with that.

No, sir.

No way.

No way, no how.

4-21, and you lose it to Ohio State

basically every year.

How many times has he been to Ohio State since he's been there?

Once?

I think

you get

a little bit more leniency with understanding that you are playing a superior school.

If you can somehow get a win.

Yes, you understand that Ohio State has the better players.

here's the thing they keep getting into the playoff they get into the playoff and go look good and be competitive that's the thing they keep getting

wiggling their way in just good enough bare minimum type stuff so when you do that and you look back at the season as somebody who's overseeing that whole program you're like you know what you don't forget about that loss versus ohio state you don't forget about you forget about that

like oh we went to the playoff damn a couple plays go here our way here and there.

Like, we're good.

You look at it in that perspective, but in reality, when you lay it out, you lay it for what it is.

If you're a top program,

yeah,

how many times?

I think the biggest thing is this is where you measure a coach.

How many times does he win a game he's not supposed to win?

See, you look at Nick Saban, and all the times he beat Georgia when he wasn't supposed to, or he beat an LSU when he wasn't supposed to, or he beat no, or he beat these teams.

How many times will we go into a game and we say, Man, Penn State ain't got no chance of winning this game, and they win it?

They do.

Why don't you?

If it's a 50-50 ball game, they lose.

So if we're looking at it and we're saying, okay, this is a game, I want to see somebody with Coach Belichick.

Coach Belichick, a lot of times, he's winning games like he wasn't supposed to beat

the greatest show on turf.

He wasn't supposed to beat the Legion Legion of Boom.

He was not supposed to go on the road

and beat Patrick Mahomes.

You have to win in order to get the credit that you deserve.

You're going to have to win games you're not supposed to win.

You know that.

You weren't supposed to win that Super Bowl in Atlanta.

That's how you became Johnny.

If you go to Alabama, if you go into Alabama and you lose, you're not Johnny football.

You've got to win.

You won a game that you weren't supposed to win.

Nobody gave you a chance.

Y'all was what?

Two, three touchdowns underdogs.

But hey, hey, Uncle Johnny, the funny thing about it is, obviously, sometimes coaches are supposed to win games that they shouldn't win, you get the recognition, but it's hard to win games if you don't have the personnel.

It's hard if they tell you to bake a cake, but you ain't got no goddamn, no, no mix.

You understand what I'm saying?

Well, make cornbread.

Make something palatable.

You know what I mean?

But

I get Ocho, you're right.

But that's the thing.

Is winning.

Let me ask you a question.

Who had the most talent?

The greatest show on turf or Coach Belichick's Patriots?

Yes.

A game you're not supposed to win.

You're undermanned.

The great ones had to win no matter what.

There ain't no excuses.

Yeah.

Giants versus the Patriots.

One team is 18-0.

One team got,

some argue, the greatest receiver ever.

The greatest quarterback ever.

The greatest head coach ever.

Yeah.

Ta-da.

Yeah.

So sometimes you win games when you're undermanned.

That's, oh, Joe, if all I do is win when I got the best team, how good a damn coach ever?

Yeah.

You're right.

Jay, frankly, at some point in time, you're going to have to win games that nobody doesn't expect you.

And now you're at home.

You're the number three C.

People were expecting you to beat Oregon.

Because

you're the high-ranked team and you home.

And somehow you find more, more times than not.

So based on this, in 25 games against a top 10 opponent, more times than not.

triple the times, quadruple the times he found ways to win, lose as opposed to winning.

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As we got number nine, Texas AM Johnny's

number nine, Texas AM hold off the Auburn Tigers.

I don't know how you get two names.

You get a War Eagle and your Tiger.

But anyway, improved the 4-0 since the first time since 2016.

Auburn finished the game 0 of 13 on third down conversion and had just 177 total yards against A ⁇ M.

A ⁇ M had 414.

Marcel Reed not turned the ball over against Texas A ⁇ M and hadn't had committed 13 penalties, the final score would have been a lot worse.

Johnny, that's your team.

What did you like about what you saw?

Listen, I talked to him every night after the games.

And

as you're going into games like this and you're getting into SEC play and you're playing a good team like Auburn, you have to find ways throughout the season to go out and get a win, whether it's pretty, whether it's ugly, whether you have some penalties.

But look at it as a whole.

15 to 22, that's seven incompletions.

Doesn't throw a tutty, 207 yards passing.

And for him, he rushed for minus 23 yards.

For a guy who uses his legs, that's an off night for him.

But you look,

Lavion Moss, 21 carries, 139.

I've talked to him every week.

What I've told him is, listen, as good as that feels, as much as you want to go out and celebrate, Learn from me, man.

Learn from me and buckle down.

You are in a place that we ain't been in in 10 years, nine years.

Yeah.

Grind it.

Go back this week.

Go harder.

Take this, run with it, and go get better.

Use the film.

Use the stuff.

Go to practice.

Take everything you can.

The party is going to be there.

And the party is going to be better whenever you get to the SEC championship game, whenever you keep winning, whenever you keep stacking good days, good weeks.

So I'm in his ear every week in the most positive of ways.

We're going to enjoy this for a couple of seconds right now because it feels good and you should enjoy it because it is a good team win.

But at the end of the day, everybody in the country is waiting on AM to be AM of the past.

The way you stick out and be legendary is to go and do what hasn't been done.

He wants to go be up there with me at Texas AM.

Keep winning.

Keep doing your thing.

Keep being a leader.

That's how you get a state.

That's how you get a statue.

That's how you get your name on the building.

That's what you want.

So right now, so far, so good.

But everybody's waiting on the Aggies to Aggie.

And there's a couple people that can keep that in perspective and keep it rolling.

Look,

AM defense was coming.

I mean, 24 rushes, 52 yards, 18 of 33.

You had 33 pass attempts, and you only had 125 yards passing.

That's supposed to be supposed to have 125-yard passes in three drives.

Them boys playing good defense,

real good defense.

Most of the time, you think about college football too, huh?

Johnny,

defense is a part where they really don't play very well.

It's hard because all these spread offenses and all this motion,

this zone read stuff.

If you see, if it's infiltrated the NFL.

NFL sent their personnel down there to study Baylor, to study these lane kippers, to study these open offenses.

You see a lot more of that now, college offense into the NFL as opposed to the nfl in college ain't nobody dotting the eye you find very few backs everyone basically the only team that really gets in the eye is you got

uh derrick henry yeah and jonathan taylor yeah damn near everybody else is on the offset because very few very few quarterbacks are under center now johnny

a lot of these guys get to college ojo and they have never ever taken a snap on the center under center yeah Some guys get to the NFL and they ain't taking a snap on the center.

The first time they take a snap on the center is is at the damn pro date.

Look at Johnny.

Johnny raised his hand like, I don't know.

We have maybe six snaps in two years where we went under center.

I got to the NFL.

I'm like, what the fuck is this?

You feeling good about your aggress?

You think they can make it all the way down to Georgia?

They have the pieces they need.

They got, if

they can come together as a band of brothers and they can look at it and say, you know, this defense, we stout.

Offense, what we did versus Notre Dame, we can do versus anybody in the country.

But it takes a special unit, not ones buying into the hype, not ones getting lackadaisical, not ones taking a week off and practice like, yo, we play somebody that we should beat this week.

But somebody can come up and catch you.

And that one game changes your whole trajectory.

So are the pieces there for AM?

Are they a contender?

Without a doubt, they played well enough against teams that are solid to prove that, but it takes consistency and it takes them coming every week with your lunch pail.

You got to come and bring it.

That's just what it comes down to.

So if you want it, it's there.

You got the pieces.

Now, injuries or whatever,

sure,

but they got the pieces.

Do you guys got Texas or Oklahoma on your schedule?

George is on the road.

That'd be a good game.

There's no love lost between you guys.

And last year was a brutal one.

Last year was tough in our own house, bringing the rivalry back.

We ain't sniffed a chance to win that game last year.

Yeah.

And y'all tried to block Texas from coming to the SEC.

What are we doing?

It was all good when we wanted to go.

But when they want to go, we're mad about it.

There's some things.

There's some things that go on at A ⁇ M that.

You got to look at and kind of be like, what are we doing?

But that just is what it is.

Everybody wants their cake and to eat it too and to keep them out of something that's been really great for us.

But like, listen, if 2012 didn't go the way that it went for us, our SEC trajectory could be way, way different.

When we were coming into the SEC, all we heard was, you boys need to get ready.

You're going to get smacked.

This is different than what you're used to.

This ain't Iowa State.

This ain't Kansas State.

Now, we set ourselves on a good path with 2012 and 2013.

But then there's a big lull there for eight, nine years where we really haven't had a lot of success.

Outside of 2019 or 2020, Kellen Mons last year, and it was the COVID year, and we went to the Orange Bowl, lost one game.

We haven't really had a lot of success.

So for us,

this team has the chance to do what hasn't been done at Texas A ⁇ M in a long time.

And for us and the type of program we are, if you're being honest, double-digit wins for us are something that are truly program changing.

But we're in the second year of Elko.

We go through the buyout.

We go through the jokes.

We are the butt of the joke for years.

Oh, you pay Jimbo this.

He has to go.

You pay him off.

You have success in the second year of Elko, you really start to build on something where that money now makes it worth it.

Absolutely.

When you pay Jimbo that kind of money, you got to get to an SEC championship game.

You got to get into the college football player.

It's just the way of life, Ocho.

And, you know, Johnny, you understand this.

You played there.

You know how devout and loyal that fan base is and you know how those big boosters are they emptied the well they found some money in their cushions to give jim bow that that kind of money i say they emptied their pockets because they got deep pockets their pockets go down to their pockets

Yeah,

they didn't have to dig too deep to find that.

And so the expectations, like you said, you keep winning these games.

And like you said, okay, you win double digits.

But at some point in time, they look over there and it's like, nah, we're in the big boy conference.

We want to play.

13 years in and you don't go once, unacceptable.

I couldn't get it done.

Can't get it done for the nine years after.

13 years in at a conference and you don't sniff it.

Unacceptable.

So

they're going to have to figure this thing out.

You believe they have the type of team that can get there?

I mean, this thing is going to really be tough.

I mean, Texas and Oklahoma say they got something to say about it.

Georgia has an SEC loss, but hey, they're like, hey, we got something to say about it.

Bama doesn't have an FCC loss yet, but

they're probably six to seven team.

Tennessee, Vanderbilt, that six to seven team that says, you know what?

We think we got a realistic chance of being down in Adams.

Look at that schedule, though.

Next week, Mississippi State.

Then we play Florida.

We've already harped on Florida enough where they don't deserve no airtime.

Arkansas, okay.

They got the doors blowed up.

They'll be number.

All right.

LSU, late in end of the 1025.

All right.

That's going to be a good game.

Man, Brian Kelly, you know, Brian Kelly threw up on himself.

Okay.

That's the one that sticks out.

But outside of that, then you got Missouri, then you got South Carolina, then you got Sanford.

And then the end of the season,

you got Texas.

So like for it looks as a schedule, what the SEC could be, right?

What your schedule could look like.

I would say overall, that's pretty favorable.

Yes, you have to go win some good games against good teams.

That's going to happen.

You're not playing in the Big Ten.

You're not playing in the Big 12.

You're not playing in the ACC.

You're not getting cake walks in conference.

But if you look at who you can play versus who you have on your schedule, I would say it lines up really nice.

What you guys got in the game, Carlton?

Are they coming to y'all or are y'all going to them?

Okay.

And they beat us last year in a game that we felt like we should win, and they beat us bad.

Yeah.

so that'd be that'd be a very interesting game just

we'll see what johnny believes his team could be i know you're gonna be on board

lord have mercy i could just imagine i can just imagine uh take a m and then

i'm not gonna give the whole thing away but south carolina weekend

those boys in that locker room from what I have coming in that game, are going to be more motivated than any team, any game in the last 15 years of Texas A ⁇ N.

I got a real special treat coming for the Aggies, November 15th.

Fire.

Program changing for us, in my opinion.

You got Dre coming in.

Huh?

He's working on the album.

We're going to Albany, Bahamas, work on the album.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

I'm just checking, just checking.

Guys, remember last week when Brian Kelly went on his rant about reporters asking about his offense?

Well, in a 24-19 loss to Ole Miss, the Tigers mustered 2 of 11 on third downs and lacked an effective running game.

They trudged 65 yards on 21 non-sack carries with a long of 10.

Garrett Nussmeier, once again, had a very mediocre game against top competition.

Nussmeyer managed less than 200 yards on 34 pass attempts, less than six yards an average per throw

well you know what hey let's not ask brian kelly about his run game because he won you so now can we ask you about your run game now mr kelly hey like you said it was one game

okay i would ask but see ocho what what's the what's the what's the motto ocho we never accept anything in a win we accept in a loss we wasn't in a loss so i'm gonna ask you now yeah

is this running game is it acceptable Coach Kelly?

Because you know, you were celebrating.

You wanted to celebrate.

We won the game.

The guys asked you to say, we won the game.

Guys, we won the game.

Okay, now, now that you didn't win the game, do I have your undivided attention?

Now, Coach Kelly, I'd like to ask you about your running game.

Because last week you didn't want to talk about it because you won.

Can we talk about it now?

What would you like to say about your running game?

What's happening with your running game, Brian?

Coach Kelly?

i wonder i wonder did that reporter ask any questions after the game did you have to be the reporter because i was like coach kelly i remember last week you know you said you had won the game and you didn't want to talk about it you want to talk about the win now that you didn't win can i ask you about your running game

This game was over

when Kiffin's daughter and the LSU, dude, when that came out and he said, put on the over this game, this game was

over.

Johnny, what am I missing about Nussmeier?

What am I I missing?

Listen, there were times last year in games that I watched with him where I came away really, really impressed.

Don't see it a lot, but for whatever reason, this year, we are seeing regression from guys who played well last year.

Klubnik, Aller, Nussmeyer.

They're taking steps backwards.

And that's really, really rare.

As the game goes on in college football, at least for me, because I can only speak on my perspective, the game got slower.

It came more detailed, it came more guys being in positions.

You see so much of the same coverage, you don't see a ton of nickel, dime, package, random blitz coming, you don't see a lot of different fronts, and you see the same base over, under, same positions, a lot of cover three

teams that play quarters.

So, for guys who have now played, Delson Meyer has played 20 games, these guys have played enough games, live bullets firing, to to where you got to come out and this should be toying with people.

So it is weird, and it is like really like

something's going on to where they're not getting coached in the right way.

Because I was fortunate enough to be coached by guys who pushed me, who helped me learn the game, to where things felt slow for me.

And the next year was better.

It kept getting better and better and easier and slower to the point where you can do it with your eyes closed type of thing.

But a lot of it comes with confidence too.

Sometimes you get a little rattled.

But what we're seeing right now, he's a better player than what he's showing.

And that's what I'm going to leave it at.

I'm not going to dog on him.

He's better than what he's showing.

I think the thing is, if there's a chance, and this is what I always tell guys, Johnny, if there's a chance for you to come out, go and come out.

Right.

Because

the only place you can go is down.

You can go down.

It goes back to, I know you don't probably remember this, OJo.

Georgia Tech had a safety.

His name was Kent Swillings.

He's going to be a top 10 pick.

He came back.

He ended up getting drafted like the seventh round because he went to a bowl game and he had to cover.

And it didn't work out so well for him.

He got exposed.

So that's my thing that I tell guys, well, you know, no, bro, only thing you can do is get exposed and deficiencies can be exposed.

And now all of a sudden,

Boom.

If you can go out and be a first round pick, man, go on and get that money.

Get close, go ahead, Because now, with the money that it is,

you could be a 300 million dollar quarterback and you'll be 25 years, 25 years of age.

You can be a 200 million dollar defensive player, especially lineman, D-line or

edge rusher at 25 years of age.

Go on and get close.

Go on and get 300 million at the quarterback.

I agree with you Johnny.

You can only go to the playoffs one time out of your first four years of your deal.

Yeah.

So when I'm looking, when I look at, when I look at the guys that you mentioned, Nussmeyer, I I look at Clubmick, I look at Aller, I look at, I'm like,

and these are the three games, guys that everybody had like top quarterbacks.

I'm like, well, damn.

Shadure probably thinking, man, I should have stayed my ass in school.

I could have came back.

I'd have definitely been a top 10 pick with this class.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, when I say literally nobody stands out.

Nobody, nobody.

Week out like what you normally see?

No.

Nothing like that.

I mean, none of the, it's been a while, guys.

It's been a while that

we could honestly turn the TV on and say, you know what?

I don't see no quarterbacks to get excited about.

You wake up on Saturday and you're like, damn, I'm excited to go watch right now.

I have to watch that game.

None.

None.

I mean, I don't even know.

Johnny, are they even going to give the Heisman out this year?

I mean, you, you got the award, so you would know.

Are they going to give the award out this year?

Are they just going to hold a couple guys out there that are floating, doing enough.

Like Diego Pavia has a real chance.

He got a chance if he goes and continues to play.

Six buddies today, five passing, one rushing.

Big games on the schedule coming up for them.

You play Tennessee, you play Alabama.

You're at Bandy.

Yeah.

You win the season 10 and one in the playoff.

You keep doing what you're doing.

You play the way you play.

Marcel Reed, you guys run the table, go undefeated.

Yeah.

Come on.

Man, man.

I'm looking at some of these guys.

I'm like, damn.

The committee is going to be like, nah, we good.

We holding off.

Hold on to it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to have a lot of people.

Hey, they can go ahead and slide in another one.

Hey, I'm sitting here trying to think about that question you just asked when it comes to college football.

What team do you sit there?

Even a player.

Most of the time, we've always gotten one player on one team that

to watch.

I mean, maybe Ohio State and Jeremiah Smith.

That might be the only one.

He's the only one that you get excited about.

Yeah.

And then you get frustrated when they don't throw him the damn ball.

And then I turn the TV from him.

Yeah.

Because I like, maybe, you know, I'll be thinking in my head, well, maybe I'm bringing in bad luck.

Maybe because I'm watching and he knows I watch it and they won't throw him the ball.

So maybe if

it's week four, we need to give them a little more time.

Maybe they're a little rusty.

Maybe it's one of them years where taking a little time rust off.

Johnny, that

you weren't like that when you after you won the highs when you came back, you picked right back up.

That's what guys do.

Go back and look at the guy.

Look at uh Trevor Lawrence.

Trevor Lawrence, when Trevor Lawrence stepped on, when he stepped on campus, yeah, Trevor Lawrence ended up taking the guy's job, wins the national championship.

He's like, That guy's gonna be the number one pick.

And I'll be damned, he played like he was gonna be the number one pick.

Jameis, too.

Yeah,

Jameis, yes, yeah, Bowler,

Kyler, Mariota.

I mean, come on, man.

What are we doing here?

Look, and I understand.

Maybe that's unfair.

It's not unfair to have these expectations when I'm just going by the projection, and everybody look at these guys.

These guys can spin it.

Bro, I'm looking at these guys, and I am unimpressed.

Yeah.

I think of the guys that we mentioned

leaves a lot to be desired.

And

they got players around them.

It's not like the cupboards are bare.

And I understand.

This is college football.

These guys are 18, 19, 20 years of age.

But

I mean, we should have expectations.

I mean,

and these are the top guys.

Aller was everybody, you know, he come back.

You're going to improve upon what he did at Penn State.

Enough smirk.

I think his dad was an offensive coordinator, wasn't he, Johnny?

Isn't his dad an offensive coordinator?

And, you know, and so all the guys that were mentioning, and I'm like, well, damn.

I'm just,

like I said, I haven't been really impressed with a whole lot of quarterbacks spinning the football this year.

Maybe I need, maybe I need to go out.

Maybe I just need to watch some random.

No, I did, uh, because I did get access today to

I've been talking with Jake Spavital, who's the OC of Baylor.

Their quarterback right now is playing at a very, very high level.

He texted me today, yo, we had another one of those days where RQB is playing high-level football.

And for the people who haven't tuned into a Baylor game and you probably haven't because they're not really ranked,

their offense and what he's doing at the quarterback position is something to go and watch.

But he gave me access to be able to go watch the all 24 film and to be able to go see all the version.

So during the weeks now, I'm really going to start looking and seeing some of these guys.

I'm going to come back with some good feedback on Saturday nights to some guys and be able to have some stuff to be able to show because it's out there.

You just got to look hard enough to go find it.

It's not the stuff you're going to see on the highlights and this and this and that because it may be from different teams.

But right now,

especially going into this next week,

Diego Pavia has a chance to really go into Tuscaloosa and do something this weekend.

Really.

This is the opportunity.

I mean, Carson Beck, could Carson Beck, I mean, the guy from Arizona State, Levitt, he played really well at the tail end of last year, kind of playing well right now.

I mean, we like him.

I mean, I mean, I might have to start watching him.

I agree.

He's fun to watch.

He's making some plays where I've seen five, six highlights clips this year.

Go back into last year a little bit where you're like, okay, white boy, let's see it.

The Division II transfer Trinidad Chambliss passed for 314 yards at a touchdown.

His third straight game, his third straight 300-yard game since taking over injured quarterback Austin Simmons.

I mean,

look, you can say what you want to say about Lane Kiffy.

That mofo can call him Markov.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Man,

that play that he called.

Wait, which one?

Which one?

Which one?

Which one?

To get that first down.

First down?

Yeah, man.

Yeah.

Hell, I still don't know where the guy came from.

Hell, I think he came off the sideline.

I said, how did...

This big dude get so wide open.

And he got the first down.

I said, nah, I ain't going no further.

Let me go on down here.

We're good here.

And I love Lane because he shows emotion.

I love, you know, these lot of these coaches, they be having a little pad.

Oh, they're not excited.

Yeah, that's what I do.

Nah, Lane was like, yeah,

yeah.

I like that.

Yeah, Lane be into it.

You got to look back at the days, even when he was at Alabama.

And I love this because I would see it with Kyle Shanahan at times.

I've seen it with Kingsbury at times.

The elite A-plus coaches, when they have a play dialed up against the coverage, they know they're going to get in situational football.

And you'll see it in Alabama.

The ball snap and his hands go up.

And he already signals.

You already know.

Corners, got the basic.

We're going to throw the post over the top.

Safety's coming down because that's what he does.

He's greedy going for the pick and launch it.

All you got to do is step back, close your eyes, and throw it.

So when you get coaches like that who know what they're going to get because they sit there and grind enough tape and have done it enough, it's an impressive thing.

And guess what?

You don't see it all across the land, but you see it with the good ones.

Yep.

And they know they got something good cooked up.

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