BEST OF Part 1: NFL Guests Brian Robinson Jr. + Josh Metellus + Tyquan Thornton JOIN the show

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the BEST of Nightcap! Unc & Ocho are joined by 49ers RB Brian Robinson Jr., Vikings DB Josh Metellus and Chiefs WR Tyquan Thornton. 

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All right, we got a very special guest. AAB Rob.
Very special guest. What's up, B-Rob? Joining us today.

$49 is running back, Brian Robinson Jr.

How you doing, bro?

I'm good. I'm good, man.
I'm good, man. Look, 3-0, but y'all been besieged by injuries, man.
Nick Bosaza, Brock Purdy, Kettle, Jennings, Ayuka, still yet to play.

How have you guys been able to still be 3-0 as the injuries start them out? And it's, you know, the adage, the cliche, next man up, has really, has really had to be you guys' mantra.

Yeah, I think

the devs just got to prepare. They just got to keep preparing like the starters.
You know, same conversation me and Matt Jones been having

the last couple of weeks. You know,

shit, he didn't think he was going to, he didn't know he was going to have to start the last couple of weeks. So,

you know, just big testament to guys that just come in, prepare, come in, working, you know, like, you know, they're going to get their shot, gonna get a moment at any given time.

So I think that's the biggest thing about just having a team full of, you know, experienced players and no depth that, you know, prepare well. So guys got to step up now for sure.
Yeah.

What has that transition been like for you going from Washington, going down to San Francisco?

Has the transition been? Getting acclimated to the offense, getting acclimated to a new atmosphere, a new environment? What has that been like for you?

It's been good. You know, it's been a work in progress for sure.
You know, it was a

quick, quick turnaround for sure. But I think, you know, with Kyle's offense, it's easy to kind of...

You know, for my style, you know, there's a lot of run, you know, run, run game in there. So, like, it's easy for me to, you know, pick up to that stuff.
You know, obviously,

some of the verbiage and stuff, I'm still picking up on, but, you know, for the most part, I've been picking up on stuff pretty fast. My old running back coach is out there with y'all, Bobby Turner.

You tell him, hey, say, man, I was on last night, Bobby T, he told me to tell you what's up.

Okay, I'm going to for sure let him know tomorrow. I'm going to let him know.

What's been Kyle's message to you guys?

I've known Kyle since he was 12 years old.

I know a lot of the guys out there because a lot of the guys where you were with me when I was in Denver when Kyle was in high school and when he went on to the University of Texas, but I know a lot of those coaches out there.

So what's been Kyle's message to you guys that keep you guys three, got you guys 3-0, even though the injuries have started to mount?

I think it's the message that really sits with me for real is he's been telling us, you know, just play desperate, you know, like. No, that's just been the message, just play desperate.

And I feel like,

you know, that's enough said, honestly, you know, shit. everybody pretty much responds to that alone.
Everybody knows

exactly what he means when he says that. Like, you know, play desperate.
Yeah,

I feel like, you know, that's that's the message. Simple as that.
Let me, yeah, Brad. Okay,

we hear this all of a sudden.

I mean, I thought you was playing well for Washington, and then all you saw, you know, he might get traded, or if he did not get, they can't find a trade partner, they're going to release.

Was there anything in training, Captain? Was there anything in the offseason that led you to believe that you wouldn't be a commander this season?

I mean, honestly, I couldn't even tell you that.

I was just so focused on, you know, just being a commander.

You know, that's, I felt like at the time, that's the only thing I should have been, been focused on, you know, unless, you know, somebody from the high up had a message that wanted to say, you know, say something to me that made me think otherwise.

Other than that, you know, my only focus was being a commander. You know, so,

you know, I couldn't tell you nothing besides like the rumors or or something like that that probably like triggered it, you know, but you don't really get too caught up in rumors and stuff that go on on the internet.

You don't really know. But

apparently they was knowing, they were knowing stuff I didn't know at the time.

Listen, B, Rob, that had, that happened to all of us, baby. That happened to all of us.
One day, obviously, it happened to me. Uncle I'm sure it's happened to you.

And sometimes you going about, you going on about your business, doing what you're doing, getting prepared for the season. And all of a sudden, you know, it always comes from in-house too.

it always comes from in-house they purposely put it out there just to get just to get the storm just to get the storm going you know and it lets you know well damn that's how y'all feel about me everything i done did for you all the work i done put in the bloods and kids i done went to war with y'all and that's what y'all wanted to leak out there and it is but listen you off the green of pastures obviously enjoying so how you enjoying your time out there in in in in san francisco so far

honestly man i just i mean i jumped straight into it man i ain't really had time to really just you know get out and really explore like that you know i'm sure when i when the time come i'll see what it's like but you know right now it's just been all ball for me man i had to jump straight off the jet like you know like trying to trying to get in the playbook you know obviously cut shit i gotta i i'm in the same position you know uh i gotta be like a rookie all over again gotta learn a new system

yeah

but at the same time also preparing like the starter that i always been so

you know uh

so when my number called, I come in there and do my thing, you know, so that's what I expect to do.

So I'm, you know, just working on getting caught up to speed as fast as I can, just so that it ain't no hiccups when that number gets called.

I don't care about the fact that it's only been a couple weeks. I ain't making no excuses to that.
You know what I'm saying? When it's time for me to spin.

Spin. Yeah.

Yeah.

Is the offense schematically any different? I'm sure the words are different, but are there any similarities from the commanders and what you have to do with the 49ers or is it completely different?

I think we're running a different scheme. You know,

it's definitely a different scheme. And it's actually like, I like it.

One cut, get your ass downhill.

Exactly. You know,

that makes enough sense to me. You feel me? That makes sense to me.
I'm good. I blocked that sense.
Hey, one cut. Hey, we're going to cut the backside.

When you make a decision, when you put your foot in the dirt, commit to that. Come on with it.

Yes, sir. All right, Bobby T.
Hey, hey, hey, so

that it

hey, we

practice that.

So, why the hell you do it?

Yeah, Bobby T don't play. Jen, no, hey, hey, I don't know if you know Bobby T.
Bobby T don't play.

I didn't got to know him well over the last.

Oh, yeah. Be Bobby, Bobby T, a great guy, though.
Man, he's a great guy.

What's it like having Christian McCaffrey?

I mean, you're in the same meeting room with christian mccaffy you're in the backfield sometimes what's it been like because you know going to the university of alabama you used to having you know great back great players around you but he a different animal

yeah he definitely you know he is who he is though but he he's super humble you know great you know great teammate so it's you know it's easy you know being in the room with him he you know he's just a great team player so he you know he ain't too caught up in you know being christian mccaffrey and all that you know so

it's been pretty cool you know just getting to know him and get to play alongside him and just seeing how he go about his business and and why he is the special player he is because he he he handled he handled his business like that he be on top of you know what i'm saying it's just been fun to watch just get to know him and you know just see how he he's been the great like that over these years

Hey, man, what is it like, man? I'm like, like, just a thought, man, and being able to share the fear.

I'm kind of

hurt almost a little bit not being able to play in this era because there's some great players that I enjoy watching, especially on the defensive side of the ball that

I would have loved to go against. And

Fred Warner has to be one of my favorite players.

So, man,

you got to tell me, what is it like being able to share the field with young Bull, man, every time y'all out there on that field?

Yeah, I think, you know, being able to share the field with Fred is special. You know,

it's a moment in my life I ain't going to take for granted for sure because

I came out here to San Fran and I had to play against Fred my rookie year. Yeah.

Man, we tore each other up. You know what I'm saying? But we hit it.
Look, we hit each other enough just

after the game, like, like, bro, respect.

You know what I'm saying? Respect for sure. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know, by the time I walked in the building here, it was just like, you know, we still remember like them moments, like, playing against each other. And I'm like,

we on the same team. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, hey, gonna go do that to other teams now.

We're gonna go do what we was doing to each other, we're gonna go do that to somebody else, right? You know what I'm saying? So, dope, yeah. Uh, I think that's

that's dope for sure. B-Rob, do you remember? Uh,

first game, you came out. Uh, this is a tremendous meme.
You came out running to many men after the traumatic, you ended up getting shot. And I was like, Well, he probably done for the year in hell.

You back in no time. I'm like, damn,

I mean, obviously, that's a very traumatic experience. What was it like

running out after being shot? I don't think you missed very many games. What did you miss, like three, four games?

No, you was right back. Yeah, I only missed.
I only missed the games that I was out for the, what is it, NFI? Yeah,

injured reserve. Yeah.
So

you got to miss four games.

Those are the only four games I had missed.

Did you know you was going to be able to make it back so quick? So when this happened, so what are the doctors telling you? What are the athletic trainers telling you?

And then what are are you telling yourself?

So the doctors actually told me that I would make a full recovery.

I would be able to play ball.

So that's the first thing the doctors told me. So

once I got out of there, shit, I took it straight to the recovery room. And once I got in the recovery room, it was just a work in progress.

Once I started walking and I was able to jog and just move my feet and just do little cuts and stuff to just make me feel like myself again i just started kind of ramping myself up just in the in the training room and getting stronger um

and really

i still wasn't ready to play i just i wanted to play right you know in my head i was like you know ain't nothing finna stop me from playing i'm playing yeah especially after she again named a starter too i'm like yeah i got to get out there start my career as a starter i got to go get get get in there and get active like and um

i wasn't even close to healed and healthy yeah when i when i even touched the field anyway not even close not

by a long shot right by a long shot i ran i ran on one leg i ran on one leg for two years for sure damn like no doubt but uh

so um when i when i finally came back this was the thing that this this was the decision-making time um after i was had set out for the first four games and i was able to come back you know rivera rivera was my head coach at the time coach uh rivera he came in the locker room he came to me he was just like yo totally up you

i respect that though you know what i'm saying he came up to me he was just like yo it's totally up you you know like your call your shot i'm like i'm going you know that's that was the only words i have i'm like i'm i'm going so

that's how that's just how going through this traumatic experience have you had to move differently have you surrounded yourself with different people people? Make sure you stay out of certain areas.

So how has that

impacted the way you move day to day now?

Honestly,

I've always been the type that moved precisely. You know, I always had that precision in my movements, you know, so it was actually

kind of shocking how that even, you know, drew up on me. I didn't realize that the city was just that bad.
You know, I just didn't, I didn't know it was that, that, that terrible out there.

you know i was just calmly stopping through you know i didn't know it was that terrible you know to where i had to really you know just be all the way on edge

and yeah like like i really wasn't even on that type of time at the time and you know most like that just that's just how i naturally move anyway so i kind of let my guards down for a minute down after just getting the rules and stuff from the the nfl security um of our team that was just telling us like how the gun laws and stuff like that is down there so I'm like all right I ain't got ain't no guns guns down I ain't gonna worry about the gun feel me so bad please so my mind said just my mindset was just kind of like I kind of like slept on I slept on them for just a little I kind of slept on them you know what I'm saying then

it happened just that fast damn just that in that little in that little that little window where I was sleeping at I took you know what I'm saying yeah damn they ran down them a man you had the jury they take anything up off you

no man i ain't really even have nothing nothing on me but

my wallet and my keys but there was they was more shocked as they was just as shocked as i was so it was just kind of like we was at a like a little standoff man

uh

i ain't really come i ain't give them i ain't give them nothing but um

it was I just ain't really have time to, you know, shit was just happening so fast. I ain't really had, I ain't had time to do nothing for real, but but what I did.

But like I said, you never know what you're going to do until you get in a situation. Like, you know, I learned something about myself that day, you know.

I'm glad you're good, though. I'm glad you're good, man.

By the grace of God, man, to be able to continue doing what I'm sure was your childhood dream, and that's playing a game of football. You are, you're from Tuscaloosa.

Was there any, did you consider going to any other school other than alabama

no not really i ain't even gonna lie to you bro it was always bama bro it was always bama and um i even tried to go out and visit other schools and

it just it just wasn't

right uh what really uh it almost got a little rowdy as um right before like it was time for me to go and sign the school um

kirby had got the head coaching job at georgia after being at after being at Alabama for all those years. And he was part of my recruiting process as well.
So,

you know, he kind of went and got that job at Georgia. He was just like,

come on.

I'm like,

I went over there, checked him out. You know, me and my family went over there and, you know, sat down with him.
You know,

you know, he made it real interesting. He made it an interesting, he finally had made my recruiting process interesting because at that point, I hadn't been paying attention to nobody.
Right.

And Kirby had got that job. he made it interesting for a short short second and i was just like nah bro can't do it can't do it

that's dope that's dope give me your top five alabama running backs

off the top like that all right but i gotta go back i gotta go back a few years because

my first running back that i actually have paid attention to you know just growing up in tuscaloosa was glenn coffee okay so

i'm gonna throw him in there.

I'm going to let Glenn slide. Then I'm going to let Mark Ingram get in there.

I got to let Mark get in there.

I got to let Trent get in there. I got to let Trent get in there.

I got to let Josh get in there. I got to let Josh get in there.
We got one more spot.

Not include myself. I'm not including myself, but I'm going to put Derek in there, too.
You got to get this shit.

Damn, you put Derek in there as an afterthought, huh damn but no it ain't it ain't he ain't last it ain't really no order everybody doing their thing it ain't no order when you when you're putting the bamboo backs together it really ain't no order you know what i'm saying i'm i don't know like it really ain't no order you know obviously you can put them in your own order you know what i'm saying

man hey b rob we appreciate you joining us man good luck stay healthy and when your time comes in there hey shine shine bright like a diamond bro Do your thing. No doubt.
No doubt. No doubt.

Appreciate y'all. Appreciate it.

Do me a favor. What's up, bro? Hey, when you see Fred, we see Fred tomorrow.
Tell Fred, I would have ran his ass over for you real quick, bro.

All right, bro. I'm going to be the first person I talk to in the morning.
All right. All right, B-Rob.
How's it going, man? Thanks for joining us.

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That's tough. That's real tough.
Hey, Josh. Yo.
But hey, let me tell you something real quick before we start the show, right?

I know before we get serious, I just want to let let you know, I would have ran you over, right? Nah, you got me, man. Hey, come on, bro.

Come on, now. All right, let's welcome to the show, Vacuum Safety, Josh, Matellis.

Vikings, right now, you're third in takeaways, third in passing defense, fourth in pass differential, sixth in total defense. What was it like out there? Because it happened in a flurry.

You get a pick six. You get a strip, a scooping score, and you guys were just taking the ball away.
And then, and the offense would go right out there and put seven on the board.

It seemed like, damn, I don't know if you've ever been a part of something as far as the defense is concerned that where you took the ball away and it looked so easy, so effortless doing it.

Nah, I've never been a part of nothing like that. Like,

that was crazy.

You talk about complimentary football, like that was all of that. And within like two, two seasons, it was crazy.
Like, it was back-to-back plays and it almost felt like practice, like watching it.

Like, you know, I'm practicing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Don't talk about my team like that, man. No, I'm about to just explain.
Let me explain it.

You know how in practice, when you know, coaches tell you to do something, you know, you do it in individuals, you know, you practice in that walkthrough, and then now it's practice, and you're doing the same thing, you know, it's coming.

You know, you're able to do things you ain't able to do if you don't know what's coming.

And he, you know, we were making plays, especially Isaiah Rogers, obviously, the man of the hour.

He was making plays that it was just like, dang, like, you don't see plays like that unless unless it's practice. Like,

I'm surprised like he getting this off on an NFL Sunday. But

nah, man, that's the kind of defense we play, man. You never know who it's going to be.

But, you know, the way we play defense and the way we cause havoc, you know, anybody bound to have a day like that on this defense. What? Hey, listen.

No, I was going to say, listen, I watched that game. I was hurt.
Josh,

I was hurt. Obviously, I knew Burrow was out.
So I felt good. I felt good about Browning coming in because he's been in before when Burrow went down and he did pretty well.

But obviously, what you guys were able to do defensively,

forget the offense. I want to talk about the defense because

you, Isaiah Rogers,

that front end, man, you guys were all over the place and actually dominated the game for all four quarters. I thought at some point...

I don't even know why I had the belief that we even had a chance to win, but what you guys showed the other night with Brian Flores, his creativity and what he does exotically defensively and having the personnel to be able to do some of the things he wants to do, man, it was a beautiful sight to see a beautiful sight to see yeah man when you could put it all together like that uh especially on game day yeah you know we talk about it you know we preach it every week and uh you know for us to come and do that especially after a loss and the way uh you know we we gave up uh 200 rushing yards a week before you know and that's not that's not the way we play defense in minnesota so uh you know for us to come back a week of practice going hard head down grinding and for us to come out sunday and you know put that out there for everybody to watch and that's on tape now you know for the rest of the season.

It was special. We mentioned, I think you guys have five turnovers at the half.
Isaiah Rogers, he get a long pick six, and then he gives a punch out, scooping score.

And then he gets, and it's like in another punch out. And it seemed like this was just happening back to back to back.
And you're about looking like, damn, boy, what did Joe have to eat for breakfast?

Yeah, it's crazy, too.

I walked up to him after one of his plays. I think it was after the force fumble and he picked that up and scored.
And I grabbed his hands. I said, whatever you got, let me get some of that.

And hey, lo and behold, the Lord blessed me with a hip

right in my lap. I said, okay, he really has something.
I don't know what he had and what his routine was last week, but I've been close to his hip this week. I'm going to do the same.

I'm going to do the same thing.

Obviously, you guys go to Dublin. You play the Steelers in Ireland.
You excited about, I mean, you know anything about Ireland other than, hey, is it the UK? I mean, but have you ever been to Ireland?

Are you excited about playing in Ireland?

No, we've done the London thing a couple times, but I've never been to Ireland, don't know too much about the culture.

Obviously, I know a little bit, but for me, it's going to be a first, something that I did want to

experience sometime in my life, you know, just traveling and exploring the world. But yeah, it's going to be a unique experience.
Yeah, I'm packing up, just finished doing a little bit of that, man.

We head up.

It's crazy, man. So you got to get used to that time difference.
And we actually playing two games overseas back to back. So y'all staying over there, right?

Yeah, we staying over there. We head to London on Monday.
So

it's going to be crazy. It's going to be.

It's going to be dope. I mean, obviously, I've been to Ireland many times to watch soccer matches.
So I'm not sure how much free time you guys do have.

Obviously, you're going that far, but when you go somewhere that far, you obviously want to get out and at least venture out, do something, experience the culture.

I'm not sure how much, you you know, leeway and leash, you know, giving you guys. We'll get a little bit, huh? We'll get a little bit.
Okay, okay.

You're going to like it. You're going to like it.
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Since you're going to Ireland, you can't have a pint. So you can't do that.
So that's all.

I don't know how much you're going to get an opportunity to do in Ireland, but you'll probably get something to do in London because you guys get, you know, you leave on Monday.

Tuesday is your off day. So that probably be the day that you get an opportunity to go see Big Ben or, you know, really.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get an opportunity.

Get around the city. Yeah, to take in, to take in some of that.

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The second game didn't go quite so well. He gets nicked.
In comes Carson Wentz.

How gratifying it is to have a veteran that has won a lot of games in this league,

played for a number of years, and you know it's like, you know what?

We've got to play at our level. Let's make it easy on him.
If we can get an opportunity to get our hands on some balls,

let's take the football away. Let's get a couple scooping scores.
Let's get a pick six. Let's do something to make it easy

for our team. But you got a guy, veteran guy.
What was it like watching what he was able to do with the opportunities that you guys presented him?

Yeah, man, it was nice, man. As a defense,

you can help out the offense. You can play complimentary football and you get a vet in there that understands

time of possession and just understands how to work the

NFL game and the ebbs and flows of a football game.

It allows you to play with a different kind of

hunger and calmness on defense.

Obviously, we knew we had to step up and we know we're going to have to step up moving forward, just understanding, we got a backup quarterback in now and we still have a young quarterback.

When JJ does get back healthy, the defense is going to have to step up big. But for to see Carson Wentz come in, man, and just instantly, you know, click back to, you know, his prime, it was special.

You get Jordan Addison back this week. So now, hey, people are going to have to pay

all of a sudden you can't double the triple

Jeddah. Now you got to pay attention because Addison, a burner, can make plays, catch after the, you know, running catch, get deep.

What's it going to be like to get this edition back to your offense?

Man, man, is uh, he that's a that's a one-on-one guy, man. He's a big play, explosive.

I mean, you talk about having two number one wide receivers on your team and being able to use what they do well at a high clip. Uh, it's crazy, man.

KO, he, he has both of them at his hand, he he can do whatever, man.

So, uh, definitely, you talk about having a quarterback, a young quarterback, or a backup veteran quarterback, having a guy guy like that to throw to an 18 on the other side, man, you really can't go wrong, man.

Then you hand the ball off, Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones. Hey, man, we is that look like a winning offense to me.
Let me ask you, let me ask you this, bro. How long have you been?

How many years have you been in the league? This is okay. So,

you're the right person to ask. Six years in the league, give me your five toughest defenders that you've had to face, that your defense have had to face

receivers, excuse me, receivers,

receivers,

Ooh.

Five toughest.

I would say Jamar Chase has been up there just because the attention

you got to have. You got to know where he's at.

Yeah, because

one play and he could change a whole game.

Amon Rasse Brown,

the Lions, we see him twice a year.

You know, great scheme, but he got great, great, he a great player. In and out of the breaks, man.
Damn. Yeah, I'm about to say

he's very efficient.

He getting in and out. He getting in and out, man.
And he does a lot of the dirty work too.

Um, Puka at the Rams, man, we played him twice last year. He was giving us work.
I ain't gonna lie,

he, uh, he, he, I think he's a pretty good receiver.

Just being able to use being able to use your physical tools, but still being able to use your agility at the same time, man, and uh, being able to produce for your offense, I think Puka does it really well.

Obviously, Devontae Adams, uh, I would probably say number one on that list. Wow, yeah, because you saw him for two, you saw him twice a year,

yeah, Yeah, coming into the league, he gave my first touchdown.

He was talking, and he was talking cash after. I was like, yeah, I should have never messed with him.
But

yeah, yeah, I would say number one on that list right now. Obviously, besides the guy I go against every day in practice, it's definitely

Devontae. Okay.
Yeah, Jettas. Yeah, Jeddah's, he's a different breed, man.

I done seen him do some crazy stuff. You know, practice, you know, you see a different animal.
Hey, that's what I tell people.

You think about what they do in the game, you ought to see him in practice. oh my gosh he like that did he just did he just do that

off the porch i'm talking we rookies we same class off the porch i'm like you sure this guy in the same class as me like he rookie too like he killing me

you got anything else on your

I was gonna ask you, obviously, with the next game coming up, have you based on nothing? I'm not sure if you guys have watched film already or you've done any type of homework.

Are there anything coming up in this next game that you guys think you have to worry about or that you have to be sure of to make sure that you don't allow to to ensure that you guys play just as well as you did against my bangles what do you think you have to worry about in this this next week's opponent offensively yeah uh for one um when you think about just a mike tomlin coach team you think about a gritty

a very physical disciplined disciplined football team so uh you know and then you add that with aaron rodgers a 21-year vet who's elite with his passing ability and his football IQ, you know, it's going to be hard for us to find a way for them to make mistakes.

So, you know, on our end, we can't make mistakes. So that's going to be a bit a big key to the game is executing and not giving them easy stuff, not

missing assignments, missing blitzes, and messing up coverages, making sure everybody in their spots and executing the game plan.

Because, you know, those two very experienced people you're going against, and you can't afford to give them any anything to keep them in the game because once that that fourth quarter hit you know that's when they superpower start to show but uh yeah um they they have very physical team but if we if we take it to them man from the get-go i think we'll we'll be in the right spot what is the biggest difference between coach flores and your previous defensive coordinator

Oh, man, I think

for me and just getting to know Flo over these years, I mean, I was with the other defensive coordinator for a year, but with Flo and getting to knowing this over these years, I think it's just his ability to understand not only players, but the game and put those two together.

Like, he understands what this defense does well and what each player can do in this defense well.

And it's not, yeah, it's not, it's not a matter of having a player who's great just because, you know, the stats and the combine says is this.

It's because he fits this defense and his abilities will highlight very well.

And it's almost like a receiver you're not gonna put a slot receiver at the x he ain't gonna get open so you know he uh he understands how to how to move us around and have us do what we like to do really well but still make it look different you see what he said

that hey

josh if i can get offensive coordinators right to understand exactly what you just said they have they have egos they have egos So they just call the plays and expect to put the receivers in certain positions and just just

go make the play, make it work. Instead of understanding each player, who you got,

understanding what you got, understanding what they're good at, putting them in positions to make plays where it comes to their strengths and not their weaknesses, then the game is simplified if you just do that.

We'll even play more people than normal. We'll rotate, especially in that front seven.
We'll rotate in guys on different person down the distances, whether it's passing downs, rundowns.

If you could play the run, you're going to be in on rundowns. If you could rush the passer, you're going to be in on pass downs.

If you could drop in the zones, and we need to, you know, it's one of those situations you're going to be in. And I think that's the best part about it, man.

You never see a guy on our defense doing something you don't feel comfortable doing.

And, I mean, when you're playing fast and you, you know, you clear head,

and then you make plays. But you got to put guys in position to succeed.
And like you said, Josh, a lot of times, look, credit, OJo,

it's my scheme. It's my offense.
it's my defense. No, you built, you put, you find, you know, what you find the, you build your scheme around the players you have.

Yup,

yup. We switch, I say, we switch schemes every year, man.
Besides our like base go-to plays, it's been a different scheme every year, man. And it's just because we have different 11 guys out there.

So you got to switch it up. Damn, man.
What?

I wish everybody else thought like that, especially the coaches, man, calling the plays. But Josh, most of the time, I can only attest when I was playing, no, week to week.

Now I'm just saying some of the complaints that we hear from other players on other teams is,

man, they want to do it their way. And we can only run the route this way.
So obviously

you restrict players from having the freedom to do what they do best because, okay, I got an ego. This is my system.

It worked at the other place I was at. So if I come here, it should work here too.

Look, with Coach DeLs like that, you know what I'm saying? I don't care if you take an Uber back to have a taxi.

As long as when his back foot hit, you where you're supposed to be, I don't give a damn what you do to get there. That's all that matters.
That's it.

Ask Travis, Kelsey, all of it.

It ain't got to look. They're going to look the same.
But I'm going to be when the quarterback ready to throw, I'm going to be where I'm supposed to be. Let me ask you this.

Other than the weather. What's the biggest difference between Miami and Minnesota? Because you talk about 85 and sunny, and then you get minus 20 and three feet of snow.
God,

weather, obviously, the biggest difference, but I would say just the culture, man. You know, Miami, you know, that's that fast,

man. Like,

ain't no time to just sit back and chill, man. You sit back, your phone ringing, it's somewhere else.
It's motion. It's something.
But in Minnesota, man, it's really slow motion.

It's slow motion, man.

Very family-oriented,

you know, very sit-back, relaxed. I mean, when it gets cold out here and it starts snowing, you ain't going nowhere.
You ain't want, you don't want to go. Practice at home.
Yeah.

Yeah. It's uh, it's just, you know, get home, you know, find your hobbies that you like to do, and you know, do that every day.

So, I, I mean, I think it's been good for my mental, I mean, especially living both lives.

You know, I mean, I've been in Miami my whole life, and then for me to be up here now, I think it's definitely uh good to just see both sides and being able for my family to see both sides as well.

I think that's really good.

Have you tried the Juicy Lucy's?

Yeah, that was one of the first things I did, man.

And it's a competition. You got a cute show.
Like, hey, yes. So I went to both.

I went to both.

You got a favorite?

Five, eight clubs, man.

They do it right, man. That's the one.

Hey,

outside of football, what are some hobbies, some things you like to do that you're passionate about? Let's say when football season is over, you know, this is where I can find my safe haven.

And I have a passion for this. And it's something that you enjoy doing that maybe even when you're done playing, when you retire long down the road, it's what you'll probably get into.

I just got into bowling, man, and I think that's going to be my golf. Yeah, yeah, I just got into it.

I just bowled a 300, what, two weeks ago. What? I'm close, man.
I'm 278. I didn't hit that.
Okay, man, man, come on.

Come on, dad. Let me show you.

Hey, come on. We go hit some pins, man.
So, yeah.

Bowling, definitely, man.

What size bowling ball you using? I got to be specific.

What you got?

15. Okay, okay, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, I normally go.

I got a 16. I got a 14.
I kind of go in between.

14 is my wrist button.

I got to go a little bit.

I feel you. For the most part, 15, that's my like sweet spot.
But yeah, man,

I've been really into bowling. I just,

I mean, I played the piano past couple offseasons. That's been one of my big hobbies.

Bacon, I just picked up to making bread, doing just doing stuff in the kitchen.

I'm trying to get diverse, man. Hey, yeah, listen, but

I used to cook them things up too back in the day. There you go.
We talk about cooking things up. Hey, you got time.
You got that time now.

Hey, I used to be in that, you know, I used to, yeah, that would me. That would be before football.
I used to cook them things up.

No, you didn't.

Come on, no, you didn't. Come on.
on not before football not before

not before

not before hey i'm just saying when you said when you said baked i like you put back

yeah no no throwing that out y'all yeah not that so how how long how long have you been bowling

uh i would say

what now probably now like six months really

i got good fast though i ain't gonna lie

that's how i know that's how i know that's how

yeah that's how i know it's gonna stick because like you you mean, you know, when you, when you touch, you're like, oh, yeah, this is me. Hell, I only bowled 200 a couple of times.
I only bowled.

I think my best is like 215, 221, something like that. I'm like a,

I'm like 180 to 202, something like that. That's, yeah, that's me.

You garbage, boy. If I don't get 200, that's a bad day.
Damn. Well, that's what it makes you feel bad, bro.
I appreciate that.

Nah, hey, but hey, you got other hobbies.

You feel me? You made me look bad. I got got no,

hey, work is my hobby. Nah, Josh, I ain't gonna hold you.
That's it. Hey, you do a good job, man.
I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that.
Me and Ocho, we try to get it in, man. We try to get it in.

Ah, man. I appreciate what y'all doing, man.
Especially for the game, man. And not even just for the game, man, just for men in general.

Just, you know, setting standards, you know, being the

face, being able to just show yourself and be yourself no matter what's going on in the world and in your life. So I appreciate y'all.

Man, it's been fun talking to y'all, man. I can't believe it.
I can't, can't, to be honest, I can't believe I'm talking to y'all right now. That's crazy.
Late night, night cap talking to two GOATs.

I appreciate that, man. We appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to come on with us, man.
Stay healthy. Good luck the rest of the season.
Hey, keep playing that way, man.

Hey, Pro Bowl might be calling. All pro might be calling, man.
Keep it going. That's the goal, man.
That's the goal. Anything to help the team win.
Hey, if I'm playing good, I got to help.

Winning definitely helps. I can assure you of that.
Winning definitely helps.

Appreciate it. Appreciate it, man.
Stay healthy, man, and good luck down with the rest of the way.

All right, boy.

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Now we have a very special guest joining us, 2022 second-round pick out of the Universal

ran one of the fastest 40 times in combine history.

Many question that time. They say they think it was faster than what they said because when it popped up on the clock, it was 421.

Then they rounded it up to to 4-2-7,

4-2-8. So here he is, second-round pick out of University of Baylor.
Spent the first couple of years of his career at the New England Patriots. Now with the Kansas City Chiefs, starting to thrive.

Here he is, Tyquan Thornton. Tyquan, how you doing? I'm good, man.
How you doing? Tell you what they do, boy. What's your what up, man? Man, shoot, let them know where you're from, boy.

Tell them where you from, boy. Crib, man, mommy.
Man, you better act like you know it, boy. He died in the bottom, huh? Boy, that 305, you hear me? Boy, we don't play no games.

Everywhere we go, we open the door and we close it right behind us. That's what we do.
Know that. Kick the door down.

Hey, first off, before we even start, boy, I want to say congratulations. Congratulations.
Obviously, your resurgence out there in Kansas City.

Sometimes we need situations that allow us, when we get those opportunities, to prevail and show the talents that we do have and possess. Boy, you showed the F out last game, boy.

And all I'm asking you to do is to continue. Yeah.

Stream them things alone. Stream alone.
They ain't going to be able to deny you. They can't deny you.

Yes, sir. Go ahead, I'm going to let you.
I'm going to let you take over that. I got excited because my dog, my dog in the field.

Go ahead.

What's been the biggest? I mean, seemingly, I know you had a couple of injuries, your collarbone, and it seemed like you couldn't get on the feeling.

When you got on the field, it was hard for you to stay healthy. Now you get an opportunity for your talents to flourish.

We know you had the speed, and it seems like Andy and my homeboy, you his favorite target right now.

And it seems, what has allowed you to thrive this year in kansas city where in years before it didn't go so well really basically just getting in the rhythm man you know just getting them opportunity getting them reps you know being out there you know staying healthy you know getting those reps and um challenging myself in practice man i'm trying to get better every day at the little things you know some of the things that i'm not good at you know what i'm saying and um here in kc man they're very um they let me know what they really want from me man and pat man you know having pat at quarterback man he makes it a whole lot easier for me you feel me so i'm out there just running knowing where the ball is gonna be at, man, and it's just um making routine plays.

When you got your opportunity to come over from New England, what was the role? What did they tell you they were looking for in a receiver when they brought you on, man?

Um, I mean, they didn't even have to tell me, man. You see the room, you got guys like Xavier Wordy, you know what I'm saying, Hollywood, Juju, Rashi Rice, you know what I'm saying?

A bunch of playmakers. So, man, all I just had to do is just, you know what I'm saying, just find my little puzzle in there and see where I can fit at.
But it really wasn't hard, though.

They like speed.

And y'all got it. Y'all got it to y'all got it to burn.
Now, y'all got a you and Xavier and Rasheed Rice, Hollywood Bryan. I think Hollywood ran low 4-3.

Y'all got a nice little relay team going. We already lining up with whoever.

But what has it been like? Okay, you get there, and all the names that you've mentioned have all played with Mahomes

before.

Now you get there, and it seems that he's looking for you in situations. You have one, the ball popped it out, Mahomes came right back, halves, rose, and came right back to you.

That had to make you feel good because this is Patrick Mahomes, a Super Bowl champ, MVP, and he got that kind of confidence in me to come back to me. I mean, sure.
We work at it at practice, man.

We're doing a long drive drill. We're throwing deep balls every other place.

You know what I'm saying? A thousand times in practice. So he got a lot of faith in me.
So it's just me basically going out there and just making him right. Yeah.

And the funny thing about it, too time when you got a quarterback like that man a quarterback that has expectations once he trusts you and starts throwing you the ball like that especially on deep plays back to back like that yeah hey they finna keep coming they finna come and the funny thing about it is you always got to be on point and always got to be alert and understanding regardless of what what the situation is or what's going on or what the read may be he might come to you just because in his mind, well, hell, the last time I needed to play, I knew I could count on 8-0.

And just subconsciously, he's going to come back to you again. So, man, dude, I'm happy for you.

You're in a great situation because the conversation that people continue to have about the Kansas City Chiefs week in and week out is the struggles at the receiver position.

And the only thing they talk about now is you and your emergence of now being one of those that can help them win games. And I just want you to stay on that track.

And once you open that door, all you got to do is close it behind you. Yeah.
That's all you got to do to close it behind you. But go ahead, go ahead.

look you guys started 0-2 uh late uh uh you had an opportunity seemed like you was gonna win the game against filling you win the game again you played the chargers and now you go to new york and do you feel this was the game that's gonna get you guys back on track because seattle we're doing excuse me we're not used to seeing kansas city start the season 0-2 we always like hey this is the first time that In a long time, Kansas City not really favored to get to the Super Bowl, you know, win the division.

They're not favored to win the AFC. You hear all the talking.
How have you been able to block the noise? How have you guys been able to block the noise out?

Focus on what you can control and then go win this game, win this game last Sunday.

Man, just going in there and just going to play KC football, man, just letting it loose, having fun, showing our personality.

I know the offense, we kind of got off to a little slow start, but just going out there and just keep on punching at it. You know what I'm saying? And we know what we can do, man.

We got the players in the room, man. We got the coaching staff, man.
We all just believed. And we came out that second half just to, you know, finish off and come out with a win for sure.
Yeah.

You know what, and Ty, when I think about it, I think about, we think about the Chiefs of last year. And we're talking about the start and them being 0-2 or 0-whatever at the beginning of the season.

But you have to think, those close games last year that they had this year, they won those games, huh?

They won those games. They still had the same struggle, but they just happened to win those games as opposed to this year.
Everything's not in their favor.

So now they're having to dig themselves out a hole similar to how another team that we know about that started off good this year. Now we're in trouble, you know, losing our quarterback.

But I, and I keep saying, as long as they got 15, they're going to be all right. So all the talk about the struggles that they're having, hell, boy,

I'm going to say it every time, every week, boy, throw the ball to 80, boy. That's it.
Period.

It ain't got to be no deep balls. It all comes down to you, too, and having that mentality.
Hell, if I catch me a hitch or I catch me a slant, I should be able to take that 80-something yards.

You know ty we think about putting on a nightcap nfl's fastest man

you know are we thinking about getting we thinking about getting cheetah thinking about getting you i've been me xavian worthy on this conversation man me

i really feel like i went for one whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

hey hold on hold on hold on can i ask you a question like a serious question what's up like right now you you think you faster than me

no i've been trying to race you a couple years ago we ain't gonna speak on that though i i

want to embarrass you then because i want to take your confidence because i'm still i'm still running like that but hey this is it's a 483 on the hill boy it's a 483 on the hill this it's real talk uh we're gonna see when i see you all right bet so when you put that together make sure you put me in the race

nah no these are all cheetahs no tortoises

so if i gave so we are this offseason you train time so i mean what we take five guys so we know cheetah has been the fastest guy for a long period of time whether or not he's still that remains to be seen we got you we got uh uh xavier word i don't know uh oh yeah okay woolen we got uh woolen uh didn't somebody run 4-2 this year i don't know so we're gonna take all the guys we're gonna take six seven guys and we're gonna what y'all want to run y'all want to run 60 y'all want to run 100 what you got 60 40 60 100 i'll say give me 100 man give me 100 a matter of fact hey and the private million dollar prize for the winner.

So,

can I throw that at it? Can I say, can I say a million? Oh, oh,

hell no.

Turpin.

We might get a couple of sponsors, put a couple hundred thousand. Nah, a million.
I mean,

that ain't bad for 10 seconds of work.

Who making that kind of money? A million dollars? No, don't they make that kind of money?

Hollywood around the two. Oh, Hollywood, Hollywood Brown.
That's what I'm saying.

We're going to put Hollywood in there. We're going to get Hollywood.
Wait a minute, man. You talk, you talk about players that's making.
Come on, now.

We can't disrespect what talking about some hundred thousand. It gotta at least be a million, the kind of money they're making.

Oh, Joe, you see, I said excited guys get when they when they get a refumble or get a fumble recovery or pick, and they're gonna get 200 that's in a pot.

Don't you think it's it's not the money, it's the title of being the world, the fastest man.

NBC Sports didn't pay those guys, didn't pay Daryl Green and Rod Woodson and Herschel Walker and Willie Galton.

It was the title, okay. well, we had a different time.
These boy making 20, 30 million a year.

Ocho,

how much you think the fastest, you want to be known as the best at something?

I'm the fastest, ain't no doubt. It ain't no well, I ran this time, I ran that time.

It's now when we lined it up and the title for the NFL's fastest man was on the line, all I know is I caught the line first. Now, all that other stuff, I didn't run no 4-1.
I didn't run no 4-0.

But listen, I'm just telling you, what what happens is when you when you when you add money at the end of the finish line, it adds a different kind of pressure as opposed to just being the fastest man.

Oh, I'm running for a million dollars. That does something.

You just said they make 30 million. So what's a million dollars to somebody that I'm 30? If I'm not in season, you mean I got a chance to make me extra spending money?

Ty talk to him. Yeah, all season.

Let me ask you a question. What you think that guy can make if he's the NFL's fastest man? That's his official type.
He's already the fastest man, obviously.

If he, if you already ranked, who said that? Who said that?

Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.

Line it up. Until you line it up, you ain't the fastest man.
I see. I see exactly.

I get it. Noah Lyons was the world's fastest man coming out of the Olympics.
Now we got a new fastest man, Oblique Seville. So we got seven guys lined up.
This is for the NFL's fastest man title.

I like it.

Hey, hey, TC, like he's dialing. He's like, hey, I don't know what it is.

See, that's what I'm talking about. See, that's what I'm saying.
Hey, he ain't ducking no smoke. He said, hey, light it up.
Hollywood, Savior, Cheetah.

Because you know, Cheetah has been claiming this title and rifle. So for at least the last seven, eight years, Taekwondo.
So I don't know. Cheetah, Cheetah can get out.

He ran it.

Hey, hey.

We saw him run that 10-1-5 and he got out quits.

I stumbled too now at the break. Yeah.

You did? You did.

But I'm trying to figure out how did they round it up. How did they round it up that much? Okay, how you, if you want to say, okay, the 4-2-1 to 4-2-3,

okay, I give you that. How you go from 4-2-1 to 4-2-8, 4-2-7?

I don't know. You got to ask them.

I thought I was the best man. I thought I had me at Island or something.
You feel me?

Did you expect? So when you was when you was going through your training, uh, wherever you were, did you, where did you work at? Did you go to Florida? Did you work at Michael Johnson's camp?

Who camp did you work at? I was working at SPE. Me, Tariq,

okay. We was all down at training.
We was clocking like four or twos while we was training.

Yeah.

Okay. So you was expecting to run as fast because they everybody seemed shocked that you ran that fast at your height.

So they were like, we expect them to go fast, but I think when you dip done the 4-3,

they're like, hold on, we got to go back and look at some tape because

it didn't, maybe it didn't look that fast on tape. Because now you run that fast and it doesn't look that fast on tape.
They got to go back and look at something like, What do we miss?

It's a las, man. My lads are real long, so it is.

It don't look like you're moving, huh? But I'm moving for sure.

He's been running like that, man, since he was a jet, man. What a MGS, man.
Been running. You heard me?

He ran with my daughter at Miami Gardens.

So you ran track in high school, right? Track in high school. I ran track all my life.

So what was your 100 and 200? What was your best 100, best 200? My best 200, I would say, was,

I don't know,

20-point high, though. It was high.
20-point high. Yeah.

I didn't really get fast at the hunt. Like, my start got faster when I was in college.
Like, my

big Valora them came with Dave Ronda. We started doing like the Olympic lifting and stuff like that.
Yeah, that power clean.

I only got that first.

100, I was really like, I was more like a 400 runner. The 400 race on the quarter horse.
You feel me? So that's why I'm able to run them feet balls back to back to back.

You got when you go, look, you guys win the game on Sunday, but it doesn't get any easier because you got a big game coming up again with the Baltimore Ravens, and you know what those guys represent.

And they lost lost the other night. And it wasn't like a close game.
The score might say 30 to 38, but they got beat up.

And you know they're going to come in and you guys seem to have their numbers, especially in the regular, well, you have the number. I think Lamar has only beaten Patrick Mahomes once.

So you guys just started. Y'all play Monday night? No, y'all play Sunday.
Monday night or Sunday night. Sunday.
So you guys, okay, so it's a regular week.

You guys are, you got, hey, I know Andy got up at the board and says, hey, we got this team coming in. We know what they represent.
They know what we represent.

We've played each other a number of times over the years. What's your mindset? What's Tyquan Thornton's mindset going into a game like this? Just be the best version of Tyquan Thornton.

Get ready for a fight. You know what I'm saying? Take a punch, give a punch, and keep on going for four quarters.

You know, they like to play a lot of man coverage, Ty. I'm just saying.
I've been putting it out. I've been saying that.

It's so funny, Ty. He just said they like to play a lot of man coverage.
And right now, against the past, they rank 29th in the NFL.

look they i don't know what they rank i'm just telling you what they like they believe they they say we like our corners against your receivers that's what we like whatever we are we are but that's what we like we like this matchup so now it ain't a good matchup based on the statistics and the rankings i'm that's all i'm saying that's all

look as ocho said they're struggling defensively uh they gave up 264 points in the fourth quarter they gave up 22 points in the fourth quarter And then

Detroit got whatever they want. They ran the ball how they wanted.
They did a great job.

Jerry Goff didn't get, but you know, that's not the version of the Baltimore Ravens you're going to get. So what's your expectation from the Ravens? I mean, that's a good football team over there.

They got a lot of good players, but a lot of good players too as well. So like I said, man, we know it's going to be a fight.
No, we're just going to do play KC football, man.

That's what we're going to do. We're going to go out there and we're going to play.

In your brief tenure in the nfl who are some of the tougher tougher dbs that you've had to go up against

um when i was in new england who i had to face that was pretty good

sauce was pretty good when i was out there in new england i'm playing against sauce seeing him two times a year with him long arms um who else

Have you had to go against Stingley? You had to go against Pat Sertan. Have you had to go against...
No, I don't think I really went against Pat like that.

You know, I grew up playing against Pat, but I ain't really right, I didn't see him in the league yet. But um, Stingley, I didn't see Stingley,

so I just say sauce, sauce is probably the only one I see, yeah, yeah.

I like it, yeah, but you know, I'm looking at this, I'm looking at it now.

Uh, you theoretically were supposed to be the fastest guy because John Ross ran 4-2-2, and you had 4-2-1, so you like feel like

I got this. I had put my shades on, and I was like, yo,

they played, they played with us

so so had had had the 421 stuck would you have run another 40? actually i didn't so when they told me i had 421 i put on my shades

that was it okay yeah

it wasn't nothing else to do i was like bro the speed there i'll y'all y'all don't need to

see me at pro day

So what did you run? Did you run on your product? I just ran routes.

You say y'all done saw enough of this speed. I don't need to to show y'all no more.

Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all get greedy.

So, what was your vertical? What was your step? Because normally, when somebody runs that fast, when you run that fast, you're explosive. You got a high vertical, you got a high standing lone jump.

So, were you 10 and a half, 11 feet standing alone jump? Were you 38, 40 on the vertical? I ain't gonna lie, man, that's a minute ago. I don't remember none of them numbers.
Yeah,

bro, I remember, brother,

you 26. I remember, I remember my style.
I jumped to like a 45, I think 44, 45, 45 minutes vertical. To be honest, the whole time I was training, I was really just running about that 40.

I'm trying to get

really that record. But I think I jumped good, though.
I think I ain't jumped bad. I think I jumped good.

So you, so you knew the record was 422. And so all you guys were down there training, pushing each other, like, hey, somebody from this group need to get that record.

I nominate me. It was me, Tariq Willen, Kaylin Barnes.
He was the,

well, him and Willen was like the two fastest DBs. We was working.
Yeah. Hey, Kaylin Barnes fast like that? Yeah, he fast.
He country fast. He from.

Yeah. I think he, didn't he run sub four? Didn't he run sub four? He went 425.

Woo, woo.

Man, man, yeah,

that's fast for no reason. Damn.

I mean, you bleak and he gone.

Well, Taekwan, thanks for joining us, man. We really appreciate it.
Congratulations on success.

Continue to build on what you got going on. Don't let up.
This is just a start. This is what they envisioned when they took you in the second round.

The type of player that you are right now, the type of player that you're becoming, this is what those teams envisioned when they saw you at the combine and they saw you at the University of Baylor.

So continue success. Stay healthy and come back and talk to us down the road.
Appreciate y'all, man. Yeah, hey, boy, get it.
Appreciate you, boy. Boys, hail Sunday, bro.
Sure. Love.
Love.

All right. Appreciate you.