Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho & Johnny react to Miami BLASTING Florida + is it time to FIRE Billy Napier?!

Let's be real.

Life happens.

Kids spill, pets shed, and accidents are inevitable.

Find a sofa that can keep up at washable sofas.com.

Starting at just $699, our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out, so you can say goodbye to stains and hello to worry-free living.

Made with liquid and stain-resistant fabrics, they're kid-proof, pet-friendly, and built for everyday life.

Plus, changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want.

Neat flexibility?

Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa anytime to fit your space, whether it's a growing family room or a cozy apartment.

Plus, they're earth-friendly and trusted by over 200,000 happy customers.

It's time to upgrade to a stress-free, mess-proof sofa.

Visit washable sofas.com today and save.

That's washable sofas.com.

Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

T-Mobile's Friday Night 5G Lights is back for another season of hometown pride and big wins.

T-Mobile kicked this off last year to bring communities together and give high schools across America the chance to turn their Friday nights into something unforgettable.

25 finalists are battling for the $1 million grand prize package, a game-changing homefield upgrade, a Gronk Fitness Weight Room Makeover, an epic tailgate party, and a trip to the SEC Championship.

Head to Fridaynight5GLights.com and vote daily through October 24th.

Let's go!

So, your AI agents, they make the team that uses them more productive, right?

But if they aren't connected to other agents, or your data, or your existing workflows, how productive can they really make your teams?

Any business can add AI agents.

IBM connects your agents across your company to change how you do business.

Let's create Smarter Business, IBM.

Parking shouldn't slow you down.

ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut.

Book ahead, save up to 50% and skip the hassle of circling the block.

Park smarter, park faster, ParkWiz.

Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park.

What does Zinn give you?

Not just smoke-free nicotine satisfaction, but real freedom.

Freedom to do what you love and choose your rewards.

With Sin Rewards, you can redeem points for premium tech, outdoor gear, and gift cards to your favorite retailers.

Find your Zin and keep finding rewards that fit your lifestyle at sin.com slash rewards.

Warning, this product contains nicotine.

Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

Y'all know who I am.

I'm your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp, one of my partners and co-hosts, normal partner and co-host.

He's Liberty City's own.

He's Bingles Ring of Fame honoree.

He's a former Pro Bowler, all-pro.

He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson and our contributor that breaks down college football with us every Saturday night.

The only money man that we know, Texas A ⁇ M great, Heisman Trophy winning.

First round draft pickup at Cleveland Browns.

Here he is, ladies and gentlemen.

Johnny Money Manzalo.

There's only one money, and it's Johnny Manzale.

Johnny, how you doing, bro?

I'm doing great.

Back in the States.

Glad to be on.

We're glad to have you back.

Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

Please make sure you hit the like button.

Do us a favor.

Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from.

We would like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support.

Thanks to you, Nightcap has become what it's become.

And it's only because of your eyes, ears, and your word of mouth.

Ocho, and I cannot thank you enough.

Please make sure you go check out Shea by Laportier.

If you can't find Shea by Laportier in a city or state near you, order it online.

We'll ship it directly to your door.

The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market.

Don't take my word for it.

Try it for yourself.

And I promise you, promise you, you will not be disappointed.

Please drink responsibly and stay safe.

Go follow my media company, Shea Shea Media, on all of its platforms.

And my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled out.

That link is also pinned in the chat.

Oh, Johnny joins us tonight as he always does.

Hey, you can check out Johnny on his podcast, Glory Days, featuring Johnny Manzale.

Please make sure you go subscribe, subscribe, make sure you like it and check out Johnny on his own personal podcast, Glory Days, featuring Johnny Manzal.

Miami Hurricanes beat the Florida Gators 26 to 7.

Is it time?

Question is, Johnny.

Look, Ocho, you talk about this all the the time.

Florida used to be a place.

I mean, you look, you get the Tim Tebows and you get the Percy Harvins and you get the Joe Hayden and you get the Pouncey Brothers and you get all those first-round draft picks.

They still get a couple, but they don't have the level of talent.

That doesn't mean they don't have the level of expectations.

That doesn't change.

Once you become a success, the fans expect you to have that level of success for perpetuity because that's all they remember.

And right now, it's really tough on Billy Napier.

Does he survive the entire season or is it time for them to move in a different direction?

Johnny, you take it, Johnny.

You take it first.

Man,

yeah, this is a tough look for the Florida Gators program for them.

I think everybody in Gainesville is used to that program being at the top elite level.

You're used to what you've seen in the past.

what they have going right now, what the preseason expectations were for this team.

They don't get tossed around by in-state schools like this ever, this consistently in the past.

So, for them to be struggling, a change needs to happen at Florida.

I think everybody from one end of the spectrum to the other at the University of Florida is uttering for that.

I know my boys behind the scenes are

just kind of shaking their head in disbelief.

I mean, DJ Lagway was supposed to be their guy.

This is a guy that you're looking at the top of the SEC quarterback rankings at the beginning of the season.

He's up there

tonight,

12 of 23 for 61 yards that's uh that's supposed to be an opening drive you're exactly right

that's supposed to be that's supposed to be what you script

first 15 is supposed to be 61 yards to play four quarters of football and get 61 yards of passing offense

you ain't going to be doing a lot with that that's complete and total and utter dysfunction from top to bottom on the offensive side of the football when we put this in perspective ocho bacon cookman's quarterback timmy mcclain had more passing yards 86 against miami at a loss on fewer pass attempts yeah hey uh listen redale anthony ain't walking through that door

i gilliard ain't walking through that door neither is fred taylor and tim tebow has already graduated emmett smith richet caldwell anybody else listen all the way down i think

yeah i think things need to change even if you do change the head coach unc it's still gonna be the same thing you if you don't have the players if you don't have the money,

you got to pay.

You got to pay to win now.

That's the landscape of NFL college football right now is to be able to bring recruits in, those that can contribute and play right now.

And until you do that, until you have boosters and you have support behind the scenes to be able to pay some of the players to attract them to come to your school, it will never be like the Florida Vole back in the 90s, back in the 80s, back in the early 2000s, where you can compete with the Miamis, with the other teams in the

Alabamas, the Ohio States.

That's long gone, Uncle That's long gone.

You got to play to win.

Now it's cucking you even more, Johnny, because you got to go into the portal.

You got to entice some of these kids that's in the portal that's thinking about it, saying, you know what?

I got a little extra.

Okay, I'm making a million here.

I'm making 500,000 a year.

I wonder if I can go to another school.

Teams are looking more so now at portal than they are high school seniors because they want someone that already knows what it's like to be in college.

They already have study habits.

They've already gone through the process of being on a college campus or playing college football.

So that's kind of the direction if you look at it, everybody, teens are starting to try to move in.

Hopefully they can entice someone to leave an Alabama and come to their school, leave an Ohio State and come to their school, leave a Michigan or Texas A ⁇ M or whatever

program is, offer them more money to get them to go there.

Okay, there we go.

There we go.

I'm going to say entice them how because listen, oh, it's money.

Oh, okay, that's five and ten million dollars in NIL or whatever they want to call it is not enough, Johnny.

You got to have a pool 15, 20, 25, 30 million dollars because one player on your roster is going to command probably a four million dollar salary.

Yeah, he got he got to be that boy commanding four million dollars.

You got to be a difference maker.

You got to be a difference maker to be able to command that kind of money.

You think you look at the landscape of college football right now and the players that command Fobi and the better,

he that boy.

Jeremiah Smith,

that's that boy.

Man, listen, if it was last year, Jeremiah Smith was top five as a goddamn freshman.

He was coming out in the draft.

Yep.

He can command that kind of money.

So, players that command that kind of money, you got to be special and be able to change a program,

the trajectory of a program right away, right now.

It ain't that many of them.

I'm just going to be honest.

I'm going to be honest with you.

It ain't that many of them, right?

Not right now.

Not like that.

I think you got to recruit, John.

Let me tell you what you think.

Look, Billy Napier, I think he's a really good coach because he was on that staff with Nick Sabin.

They had Dan Lanning and they had Kirby Smart.

And they had

Perry Fuel.

And they had Mario Christobal.

They had

the coach at Old Miss, Elaine Kiffin.

If you go back and look at that staff and what they had,

if I'm not mistaken, Dan Lanning was a grad assistant.

Kirby Smart was the head coach.

And they had, you know, they had all these guys that are coaches now in the NF

major college program.

Billy Napier, if I'm not mistaken, was the receiver coach.

But you've got to be able to recruit.

And

can they entice Urban to come back?

Urban left because he had heart palpitations.

And then he went to Ohio State and they got better.

They got good medical staff at Ohio State and a little bit more money and they had better talent.

I'd back up the Brinks truck if I was Florida to get Urban Meyer back.

I'd do anything in the world to get that man back there and get something.

The good news for Florida with the way the college football landscape is right now, though, is if a couple of these guys get together and say, Enough is enough, we're tired of this, you can go get $30, $40 million in a pot in a Gainesville alumni.

You can go to a collective and get enough money and be like, listen, we're going to hit the transport portal really hard this offseason.

And in 12 months, your roster and everything can look completely different as you go into fall camp a year from now.

So that's the one thing that Florida has.

They have the pedigree.

They have the history.

They are in a great conference.

They're just just not good right now.

You look at their schedule this year, what they've done.

10 points the first week.

They score 16 points the next.

That's 26 points.

Then they put up 55 against Long Island, which honestly not enough.

And then seven tonight.

So against three good real schools, that's 28 and 7.

What is that?

35.

35 points.

They've scored 35 points in 12 quarters of football.

What are we talking about here?

That ain't enough to beat nobody.

There's high schools out there that could probably come up and whoop up on them right now.

But here's the thing that you're talking about, Johnny.

You say there's enough money to get in the to put together to create a pot and a portal.

You're going to probably have to buy Billy Napier out of that contract.

That's going to cost you 20, 30 million right there.

Take the AM path, man.

Stroke that check and get it.

But

Florida ain't got the money like Texas A ⁇ M.

Texas A ⁇ M got deep pockets.

I mean, their hands go all the way to the their pockets so deep they go all the way to the ground

my advice to them go play that lottery with the alabama lady we talked about a couple weeks ago hey hey unc and john i think it all comes down to especially if you get a coach like urban meyer if you get him if you get him to come back for whatever reason if it does happen i think it's possible to get the money and with urban mind urban meyer coming back i think players will probably gravitate and want to come to Florida for sure price is right if the money's right and and they allow him to do things his way, and

which he did when he was there and he was winning at that time, he could turn that program around pretty fast, especially, especially in the offseason with the transfer portal.

He could do that.

It's harder now to Ocho.

They don't let the student athletes get away.

They got this thing called the internet.

They got this thing called the camera phone.

They got this thing that, so, so the things that, you know, he got away with at Florida and some of the stuff that he got away with at Ohio State, I'm not so sure.

Now you're going to be able to get away with said things.

And so they keep her closer eye on it.

Now, do I believe if you were to come back,

as Johnny mentioned, the Alumni Association wouldn't be willing to get together to pay this man $11, $12 million, what it would take to get a coach of that caliber back in the folds?

Absolutely, I believe they would.

And they say, you know what?

If that means we got to spend 25, 30 million about Billy Napier out and another $70 million over six years to get urban back in.

Yeah.

And plus another X amount of dollars to put in to try to get these top guys to come here.

Okay, it is what it is.

But we want to win.

It comes down to do you want to have a good college football program or it's really that simple.

Are you going to spend it and figure out a way to make it in the back end and figure it out over time?

You want to be good?

You want to compete now?

You want to look up in five years and say, okay, we can get into the playoff, or you still want to be doing this because whatever this is right now for Florida, it is.

And

you're the you're the you're the little dog in the state right now, and that's tough for them to swallow, it's up for them to have to sit there and look at because the product that they're putting on the field.

It's you don't want to kick people when they're down, right?

But you have to call a spade a spade and call it what it is.

That this team, this program,

there ain't nothing special about it.

You let you come in and walk over you and then turn around, another in-state rival smacked seven points, not even competitive.

Hey, and Johnny, it all comes down to those that actually have the money to be able to pull this off.

This investment is long-term anyway.

It's not about right now.

Are you willing to invest the money to see your program turn around?

It's not going to be an overnight.

It's not going to be an overnight success.

It takes long term because the people that have this kind of money are all about business.

They understand how business works.

You pour the money in now and you wait.

until things gradually improve year after year, especially if you get a coach like Urban Meyer back, things are going to turn around pretty fast.

Yeah, the question is, does Urban at his age?

He's been away from the game for a while.

He has a nice cushion job at Fox.

He gets to talk about football a couple of times a week, maybe go interview a coach here and there.

And he doesn't have to.

What about Jimbo Fisher?

Okay.

Yeah.

Now that I say, hey, Jimbo says, hey, I got a pocket full of money.

I get to get.

I can use the other pocket full, too.

Hey, my left pocket full ain't got nothing in the right.

Let me get this right before.

You know what?

Now that you mentioned that, I like that.

I like that.

Hold on.

I got that.

Not the state of Florida, really.

Hey, he was.

He was the head coach at Florida State.

Hold on.

I got one.

I got one.

Listen, I'm just throwing this out there.

Just possibility since we're throwing names in the hat.

What about another Floridian that knows Florida very well in prime coming on back down to Gainesville?

Obviously, I know it's not Tallahassee, but

I'm just saying.

Yeah, since we put names in the hat, that's not a bad option.

Yeah.

That would make some numbers.

That would move the needle

prime being in the SEC and in Florida.

That would be

absolutely.

Yeah.

He definitely.

Colorado will be holding on for dear life to try and keep in.

But it all comes down to the brass and who's running the show at Florida and what they want to go after.

But this hire and what they've done with this staff, this is definitely not working.

I think the original question to sum up the whole thing is, you know, this Florida team and this Florida program is not competitive in the SEC whatsoever.

And that's just not acceptable for a program of that kind of thing.

No, and the SEC is getting better.

It just is.

The days of, I mean, you got Oklahoma came there.

Texas came in there.

Georgia is good.

Hell, look at Vanderbilt.

Vanderbilt

looking good.

Vanderbilt might put foots in Florida this year.

So they're going to have to do something.

And guess what?

In two weeks, Miami and Florida State.

The Kanes are off next week, while the Knolls will have to beat Virginia.

If that happens, we'll get a top 10 Kanes and Knolls.

Hey,

that game, hey, Johnny, that game now, the way Florida State playing this year, the way the Miami Hurricane playing this year, it brings that old excitement of the early 2000s where they would meet up,

it brings that same excitement.

Defensively, offensively, both of them playing very, very well.

Hell, goddamn Florida State put up six to six today.

Now, I understand who they were playing.

It's nothing to hoop and holler about, but I understand who they were playing.

But obviously, the first three opponents, first two opponents, man, they did a number on them as well they did they put they put foot in uh alabama yeah listen their offense their offense is rolling you you you look at it every week look from here on out i'm putting some money on florida state every week over on points over on whatever you want to do but they look good you're supposed to go out and do that versus teams that are you know

inferior yeah yeah inferior for sure you're supposed to but the fact that you can go out and do it your offense is clicking you're rolling you're not having any three and outs any lapse in judgment that type of stuff when you see that week in and week out you're like, okay, these guys are dialed.

These guys are clicking.

So when you do get to a matchup like that, it's going to be one for fireworks.

The bad news for Florida as well, just to add on a little bit of salt on their whole grave,

play Texas.

Then they play Miagies.

Mississippi State.

Okay.

Then they got Georgia, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida State.

And that will be the season for the Florida Gators.

So I don't know if you hear about that list, those teams, what their schedule looks like, but it's really, really looking like

a three or four win team for Florida this year.

I definitely don't see how Billy Napier survives that.

I don't.

I don't see how they, I mean, if by some miracle they won six games, that's not enough.

It's still not enough.

It's not enough.

Based on the standard in which Florida holds themselves, of including alumni, the academic, I'm talking about academic, the sports program in general, he's not going to be able to survive, huh?

He's not.

Matter of fact the dolphins in florida in the same boat for sure the dolphins at the gators is basically in the same boat i think fam you could be florida right now uh i think the biggest thing is ocho and johnny when you look at it you're in the sec unless you're kentucky you're a football school

it's really that simple yeah you go you in football school and you want to compete Because the one thing that Florida doesn't want to become is what Vanderbilt used to be and sometimes occasionally they still are, everybody's homecoming.

you open the season and you see and

and they got a homecoming queen that ain't good

you know what I'm saying the first

game of the season you somebody's homecoming bro they're like damn but if you go back if you look at Florida they just they don't have Florida used to have two or three guys going in the first round they don't they don't get the I don't Maybe the maybe,

you know, when you spread it out, Jeremiah Smith is going to

Ohio State and a lot of these guys from the state of Florida, they go other places or they don't go to Florida.

They go to Florida State or they go to Miami or they go to Alabama.

They go to Ohio State.

They go to Georgia.

They go to Oregon.

They go every place except Gainesville.

Yeah.

And

you've got to keep a few.

I ain't saying you're not going to get them all because even when Florida was at its best, they didn't get them all.

But you got to get some.

And they're not getting nearly enough or nearly enough of the good ones ones in order to make a difference in the program or enough of this guy that's in the portal.

But something's got to change.

And normally you can't get rid of all the football players.

The first thing you change is the coaching staff.

And I don't advocate anybody losing their job, but I just don't see how Billy Napier keeps this job, Johnny.

Yeah, no, it's not the fit.

Like you have to have some semblance that things moving forward are going to be okay, that we're going to get this shit righted.

They have given him some time.

And this even last year, going back, like it hasn't been great.

So at some point in time,

these decisions behind the scenes are probably already, they're being talked about.

They know it's a band-aid.

They don't want to rip off.

But at the end of the day, sometimes waiting longer just makes it worse.

Oklahoma beats Auburn 24-17.

The soonest racked up a school record 10 sacks against former OU quarterback Jackson Arnold, including multiple in the final minutes to seal the win.

John Matira has been throwing up the money sign with a a nickname, Money Matir.

When asked about the nickname, he joked they're the little different person than Johnny said.

The difference between the first Johnny and me, Johnny, I'm going to church in the morning.

Damn, Johnny, I know you went to church at least once or twice.

Yeah, man, I grew up in the chat.

Church is chicken or something.

You went to something called a church.

Church is chicken.

Man, I grew up in the church with my grandparents, my mom, my dad.

We would go to church every Sunday when I was a kid growing up, go play family scrambles on the golf course afterwards.

We were definitely a house that was raised by the Lord.

So, more than anything, man, Philippians 4, 4, 13, you know, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

It's my dog.

Enjoy church in the morning.

I don't take anything that he's, that is, that is said as a slight.

I get he's trying to be funny.

It is what he is.

Continue to keep playing well, young fella.

And

all is well.

Oklahoma has a good team right now.

First time meeting 4-0 for them in a while.

T-Mobile's Friday Night 5G Lights is back for another season of hometown pride and big wins.

T-Mobile brings communities together by giving high schools across America the chance to turn their Friday nights into something unforgettable.

So far, 25 finalists have won a $25,000 grant to upgrade their stadiums.

And now these schools are going head-to-head for the $1 million grand prize package.

We're talking a game-changing homefield upgrade, a Gronk Fitness Weight Room Makeover, an epic tailgate party, and a VIP trip to the SEC Championship.

The winner?

That's up to you.

Head to Fridaynight5GLights.com to meet the finalists and vote for your favorite school.

Go back every day until October 24th.

The champ will be announced on October 30th.

Vote today, keep voting, and help one school make history.

Let's go!

Tired of spills and stains on your sofa?

Washable sofas.com has your back, back, featuring the Anibay Collection, the only designer sofa that's machine-washable inside and out, where designer quality meets budget-friendly prices.

That's right, sofas started just $699.

Enjoy a no-risk experience with pet-friendly, stain-resistant, and changeable slip covers made with performance fabrics.

Experience cloud-like comfort with high-resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing.

The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity, and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime.

Check out washable sofas.com and get up to 60% off your Anabay sofa, backed by a 30-day satisfaction guarantee.

If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund.

No return shipping or restocking fees.

Every penny back.

Upgrade now at washablesofas.com.

Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

Parking shouldn't slow you down.

ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut.

Book ahead, save up to to 50%, and skip the hassle of circling the block.

Park smarter, park faster, ParkWiz.

Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park.

Top Reasons Your Dog Wants You To Move to Ohio.

Amazing dog parks to stretch your legs.

All four of them.

Dog-friendly patios.

Even gourmet hot dogs loaded with the good stuff.

Bone appetite.

And Ohio has so many high-paying jobs, you'll be top dog in no time.

Jobs in technology, engineering, science, advanced manufacturing, and more.

The career you want and a life you'll love.

Have it all in the heart of it all.

Go to callohiohome.com.

We are back with an all-new season of Snippy's Cruising Confessions, and this time we're going much, much deeper.

Join me, Chris Potters from Rosso, and my co-host Gabe Gonzalez, as we explore queer sex, relationships, and culture in season two of our hot and hilarious iHeart podcast.

We'll be talking to piggy professors, kinky couples, dirty daddies, and so much more.

Ready to listen?

Just push play.

Starts off as a very standard cruising story.

Yeah, one that ever reaches.

In the bathroom, someone follows you in.

God, you look familiar.

And then I'm going to call up one of my girls and be like, is this your dad?

Can you please confirm?

Is this your dad?

Please confirm.

I have never, ever, ever run into a friend's parent on any dating app, at any party.

Good thing you and your friends don't go cruising together, right?

They might have had a very different experience.

Dad?

Wishing you and

from under the bathroom, you just see the mouth on and you're like, dad?

Is that you?

You can listen to Snippy's Cruising Confession, sponsored by Healthy Sexual from Gilead Sciences, now on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

New episodes every Thursday.

I don't look at anything like that to set anymore and take it as a slide or take it in any kind of way.

You know, I'm still able to sit here over a decade later and be able to have some love shown towards me, still be

talked about a little bit in this college football ranks.

And I guarantee you, anybody that's playing college football right now would would love to have the experience, the career,

and what I did on the field in college football.

So he is playing at a very high level right now.

He is a leader of a great school with a great program.

And, you know, when you come into it and beat a team like Auburn and your second year in the SEC against a quarterback that you've known that's been in your room, you know, this is a game that definitely meant something to them.

So for them to come out and be in this position, you know, for OU, it comes down to what it comes down to every single year.

And that's that game that happens in Dallas that's split down the middle and the Red River.

And you never know what's going to happen or what it's going to be.

We don't know what Texas really is.

But,

you know, for now, OU looks pretty good.

And they look like they have a competitive team that's going to fight through this SEC and has a chance to go into the playoff for sure.

Johnny, do you feel like every time there's a white quarterback in college that the little athletic and can run just a tad, they compare him to you?

Probably.

I mean,

people always see flashes and shades of me a little bit out there.

The kid from Arizona State definitely moves around like me a little bit.

I think he's playing as a high level as anybody is in college football right now.

The one thing I was talking to guys about today is,

man, the quarterback play as a whole in college football, I'm missing the mid-2010, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 years.

Where's the boys that multiple guys went out and played like Deshaun Watson or RG3 or me me or Baker or whoever Mariota.

So many guys at so many different schools that were out there really doing people dirty.

And I turned the TV on on this Saturday, especially today.

I'm begging and hoping and pleading to see any quarterback out there doing something dirty, playing high-level, high-caliber football, even from the guys that we expect it from, right?

The guys.

who we talk about all offseason that are at the top of the rankings of everything.

I'm not seeing, you don't see it from DJ Lagway.

You don't see, I see sellers at South Carolina today on a third and long miss a wide open crosser that's just like, these are throws you have to make that other guys are making.

Right now, my favorite quarterbacks to watch is my guy at Baylor, Sam Levitt from Arizona State.

A couple of guys sprinkled here and there that are like making some plays.

Marcel Reed is really making it shake.

He's throwing the ball really well and running it.

Other than that,

you expect the Kluv Nick to play well at Clemson.

he's not playing well like arch arch isn't playing well he can hop up and flex on sam houston all he wants corny move by the way but yeah yeah yeah

that's not i i don't know i don't know where he got that from i'm sure not only did his dad call him his grandfather called him and both of his uncles called him say what the hell are you doing yeah you stand over a guy from sam houston state you you're supposed to have to help them up you ain't got no business playing sam houston state i did have a play versus sam houston state at home where i trucked somebody in the end zone and i got up and i kind of stepped over him a little bit but i didn't flex on him and i didn't get in his face i just was a little hype after it so i'm sure some people are going to come at me after that but this for what texas is right now and the way that he's been playing it should be suit and tie buttoned up i got to learn how to throw a shallow cross hey the funny thing about it too and johnny you think about all the quarterbacks all the quarterbacks that have been hyped up you know in the offseason going into the going into the college season nothing really pops out on film.

Most of the time, especially back in the day, obviously when Johnny was playing, there was always somebody that gave you a little excitement.

You couldn't wait to watch when that individual would play.

And there just hasn't been that.

To me,

honestly, I was kind of fooled by the media, by the analysts, by the pundits, because I thought Arch Manning was really...

the second coming of Christ because that's well he couldn't be the seventh guy got drafted in the seventh round oh joke he couldn't beat him out come on now

Listen, listen.

You heard what you just said?

Guy got drafted in the seventh round and he couldn't beat him out.

But again, the way they talk about somebody, that's all I have to go off of.

The small sample size I saw when he came in, when Ur was hurt, I can't go off of that.

I'm basing everything off what these so-called experts say.

And they had me thinking, like, okay, I'm locked in on the first week of Texas game, and I'm looking like, well, this can't be.

Well, maybe

I'm like.

So right now, right now, the guys you want to flip the TV on, like, damn, maybe I'll watch this guy play quarterback.

Casilanos at Florida State is a guy who will get you up

a little bit.

He'd be nice.

Baylor in their offense is slinging the ball around the yard a little bit.

Sam Levitt at Arizona State definitely has a little bit of something to him where he's making some stuff plays and extending some plays.

Marcel, I think, is a guy who's developed passing the ball where A ⁇ M's offense with their receivers and what they have right now are really, really exciting.

And that's not me even being a homer.

That's just straight facts to what Krieger did in that game and what they're doing offensively.

And Colin Klein has them doing.

I think that's an exciting offense to watch.

But as you go around the whole country, there is nothing that really, really jumps off the page where you're like, damn, that guy right there, I got to turn the TB on Saturday for that.

I'm not so sure people even know who John

Tear was.

And now he's the favorite for the Heisman.

The guy came in.

He was an unknown.

And I'm not saying unknowns.

We've saw that.

We've seen Jaden Daniels come out of nowhere.

We've seen

Joe Burrow come out of nowhere.

Hell, Johnny, you came out of nowhere.

But I'm like, damn, at least some of the guys that were favored were playing well, but other guys just played better.

All the guys that were supposed to be at the top, they playing like, man, Star Fry.

I'm like, what the hell is?

And like for me,

when I watched Arch last year and when Urs was out, you look who he played.

Now, bro, I can't get excited about San Jose State.

I can't get excited when you're playing inferior teams.

If you are what you said you are, I'll give you a prime example.

Look at Trevor Lawrence.

He came in and he beat the starter out the previous year.

That's what a number one overall pick's supposed to do.

That's how you're supposed to look.

You don't supposed to keep a guy goes in the seventh round, keep you on the bench for two years.

Right.

Oh, Joe, how can I say, how can I say, man, I'm him and I got to wait two, I got to wait a year.

I got to wait two years before I get on the field.

Ain't no way.

Team, like, like, huh?

You got, I can see now.

If you wait behind Peyton Manning, that's one thing.

You wait behind Cam Newton or Andrew Luck.

I get it.

But the guy got to be drafted high.

You said, you sat behind a guy that got drafted.

I think he got drafted in the seventh round.

He was a low-round draft pick.

Put it like this.

He didn't go in the first three rounds.

Right.

So I'm like,

can I ask a question?

Would Texas fans and Sark, would they take Quinn Ewers back right now?

Hell yeah.

Crazy.

And all we heard last year.

Play Arch, put Arch in.

Crazy.

Sometimes you have it good and you don't even know it.

And I know right now that Texas offense with Ken Ewers

behind the wheel,

they'd be undefeated.

The most popular guy on the football team is the backup quarterback until he had to get his ass in and play.

And then he become unpopular just like the starter.

Yep.

UAB player stomp.

What happened?

Oh, Joe, did you see this?

UAB player that stomped on the Tennessee kicker's foot

after that's the point.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

After Nanak Field goal to have Tennessee go up 20 to nothing, a UAB safety, Cyril Bryant stomped on the kicker's foot, Max Gibbons foot.

Brian was called for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Really, guys?

He stepped on his kicking foot?

Yeah.

Oh, Joe, I'm talking about Wabop.

Oh, Joe, he hit him with a quick run by stop on the the top of the foot and just uh almost like a dap hop, but he just dapped.

I ain't see that.

He got

you got, you got to pull that up.

You got to watch that.

I'm surprised.

Look,

I'm trying to think if that would have happened in an NFL game, would they?

They'd probably throw an NFL player out if you did that.

No, they're just throwing their flag.

It just, oh, that's unspoken.

I don't know, Ocho, an intentional act like that.

Yeah, you got to do it.

He didn't try to be inconspicuous with it.

No,

no, no, he wasn't he was yeah he didn't try to hide it at all ocho

no i mean he got he got him good too

if they didn't throw him out in college they definitely wouldn't have thrown him out in the game but you gotta i think the thing is they probably they're gonna probably i think they're gonna suspend him for the first half or something ain't no way they're gonna let that slide ojo

huh

oh somebody i get but uh yeah ocho that that was i mean that was you He can't even say, well, I was trying to get up off the ground.

It was like, you remember the old Indomic and Sue, how he was stepping on people.

Oh, he wasn't playing.

It was more.

At least Domican Sue would say, I was trying to get up and I lost my balance.

He can't say nothing because he could have just kept running off the field.

He took off.

He stopped.

Oh, yeah, let me get this while I'm at it.

It took off again.

It took off again.

That's funny.

John,

have you ever seen something like that in the game?

You ever experienced something like that?

High school, college?

i just looked i just looked up i just looked up the clip right now you know he's the play ends he's got to be getting ready to jog out the sideline he takes a peek and sees it he's like you know what yeah pull it up ojo you got to see it you then you say okay i'm gonna i'm gonna stop on this real quick him if you see it ojo if you look when you see it you're gonna say yeah they might they might have thrown him out the game

i'm looking i'm looking it up right now man i could i couldn't i because i'm like

I was wondering why they show why they short.

I'm like, okay, the guy made a kick.

So why they short it?

And then I realized why they were shorted.

It was definitely an egregious act.

I'm like, bro, what are you doing?

Well, he kind of comes by and like

slaps on the long, the holder a little bit and then just runs right by him and does a top of the footstomp.

That's some WWE shit right there.

You found it, Ocho?

Crazy.

That's a new one for me.

We're seeing some things in college football this year that are one-on-ones, first time for everything type of thing.

I found it.

Number one.

Number one stepped on all.

Yeah.

I'm surprised they didn't throw him out of the game.

And the referee, the referee standing right there, too.

Yes.

Because, I mean, if you target it, I mean, targeted, they throw you out of the game.

So, what do you think he was trying to do?

He stepped on the man's kicking foot.

And then the guy sold it because the guy started hopping around like he had stepped on a nail.

You're just trying to give a team a little

bit

on the sideline, probably like, yo, we see you, bro.

We see you.

Look, I've seen some egregious acts, but I don't know.

Normally, college, they try to sneak it.

You know, we're working, you know, in a pile, anything goes in a pile.

Guys will do a whole lot of stuff in a pile, but not something so wide open.

Like you said, Ocho, the referee standed right there.

Yeah, he tricked it.

He stated right there.

I've never, I've never seen that before.

That's, that's, for me, that's the first.

That's the first.

Agreed.

And And I'm like, bro, what are you, what do we,

Johnny, what's going on with this new era?

I mean, this, this new wave of players.

Young boys out here wilding.

They are raised a little different than the old heads back in the day for sure.

I don't, they don't know how to act.

Man, I could have, man.

I couldn't even, I couldn't even fathom doing something like that in an era growing up when I grew up how coaches were.

Man, coaches grab you by your head.

Maybe people aren't getting their ass whooped enough.

Maybe people aren't getting their ass chewed out enough

to go through punishment.

But anything like that would have happened from a middle school, high school level.

I'd have been running, running, rolling, up, down till I puke.

I'd have been getting my ass.

You like this?

You like that?

You really want to act like that?

I'm going to show you.

I'm going to show you on this field right here all day for hours that you're not going to act like that.

You're going to treat people the right way.

You're going to respect the game.

It's like that.

Just don't have that.

And it starts from a young level of football, right?

It starts from kids are playing ball earlier, so you're getting coached.

And people are growing up and being raised in the game the wrong way from a very early age.

You see it all the time with these shows they have now about younger kids playing football, the little tight show and stuff that you see.

It's crazy.

You know, the purity and respect and level of the game and playing it the right way is definitely not there from a whole.

Are there guys out there that is this speaking for a whole collective when things like this happen?

Of course not.

But

stuff like this is happening more often.

You look at it, you're just kind of like shake your head.

Like, back in the day,

we didn't see stuff.

Yeah, I don't know if you could, I don't know if coaches now, Johnny, uh, could grab your face mask, they used to grab your body back of your shoulder pads, like so.

What the hell are you doing?

Yeah, yeah, hit you upside your head, and you go home and tell your grandparents and tell your parents.

It's like, well, what, what the first thing out of your

already know for the coach to do that, you had to have done something.

But you're right.

I mean, today's now,

you're afraid the kid, the current is going to transfer, the kid is going to leave school,

the kid's parents are going to come up there because

if they behave like this at home, they damn sure going to behave like this at school worse.

Yeah.

So,

you know, I remember I told my grandmother,

Coach Graham, me by my face mask.

I came home and told Granny, she's like, well, I guess that means you're going to quit.

Like, nah, I ain't going to quit.

I need you to go tell him don't do that no more.

Nah, I ain't quitting, but I want you to tell him to make him afraid to not do it anymore.

Man, my grandma's like,

boy, please, you probably was doing something you ain't had no business.

Yeah.

Well, you still could have told him don't do it no more.

But that's the thing.

Coaches now, the way they, and I've got, look, some things needed to be done done away with.

Because some of the stuff that, you know, coaches was getting out of hand with it now.

I understand there's a certain level of discipline and order that you structure that you got to have johnny and ocho you got to have a certain level of it but sometimes coaches they go too far with it and uh but now

you know

all that you can your kids get water breaks every 10 people look at all the good programs look at look at the the real programs throughout the history of the game how they were coached how how things were done attention to detail gotta have things matter you have to be hard you have to have discipline You have to be tough, hard nose.

Like there's so many characteristics of what winning football teams and programs have had and coaches that have gone out and done it.

And there's a reason some teams and some coaches are the way that they are.

And it's because they care about those things.

And there's a reason that other people aren't.

And that's just what it comes down to.

People think that it may not matter, but it does.

It absolutely does.

Because I'm not so sure how much, how different Coach Sabin was than Coach Bryant.

Yeah.

There's a reason why that's winning this college football program as far as the national championship and the pole era of 1936.

There's a reason why.

That's not an accident that a team has two statues out front of their head coaches.

Oh, yeah.

And the funny thing too, when you think about it, Johnny, Johnny spoke on the earlier about today's era of kids, especially going into college, they're wide a little bit different.

They have money.

Their mentality is a little different.

Will a Nick Saban

style of coaching, will you be able to get kids to respond to that?

Will they respond to that now in this era?

I know he's not that far removed from the game of football, but I'm just saying, if everybody had that same coaching style, I don't really think it would work.

It's so hard.

It's so hard, right?

Because in this day and age, you don't want to do something to have a kid leave because it feels such a huge point.

But at the end of the day, at the end of the day,

the way I was raised, the coaches that I was around, it didn't matter.

You were all held to the same standard and the next guy was up.

if we're hurting because of that that person that left or got suspended or was not on the team or whatever he hurt the team so you look at it as a whole it is a collective one heartbeat type of thing but at the end of the day you're going to continue to coddle kids and do things a certain way and let things slide to the point of where it hurts and leaks through and infects the whole whole betterment of the group no at some point in time you have to put your foot down and be like listen this is right this is wrong you're going to do what you're supposed to do or you're not going to play in this program and if you can't abide by that, see you later.

I don't care what we're paying you.

I don't care how good you are.

I don't care what it is.

That's just the way of how coaches were with me.

And I know how important coaching was for my life, for the game of football.

It means everything.

A good coach that cares and is passionate about it, that pays attention to the details versus one that's not, how it makes you better, what it does for you as a whole.

What are we talking about?

You either coach it or condone it.

And then, you know, when you're coming up, like, bro, you tripping you it was the players man cut that foolishness out bro you killing us you you if you get kicked off the team you're one of our best players maybe the best player come on bro cut that foolishness out because sometimes you have to have your teammates tell you because they can get through to you when your coaches can't they can get to you through they can get your peers sometimes can get through to you when parents coaches higher up whomever can't Because you know peers that's what it said association brings on assimilation.

And so sometimes the peers like bro come on man man cut that foolishness out man coach ain't picking on you you just keep doing dumb ish yeah so once you cut the dumb ish out we're gonna be okay bro you too good

but i've had i've i've i've been on had coming up in high and element and junior high and pop pee wee and and high school yeah the guy's better than me but you couldn't tell him nothing yeah

Yeah.

Oh, Joe, you know what I get when I go home, when I used to go home?

Hey, tell them sharp I was better than you.

What's that better than you in the fourth grade?

What that better than you in the eighth grade?

What's that sharp?

Fourth grade?

Yeah, bro, you had me.

You got me, come.

Yeah.

Hey, listen.

I told y'all.

I told y'all that could have been me.

Well, right now we're 30.

So I don't know, and I don't really want to go back to the fourth or the eighth grade.

But yeah, you had an opportunity, but you want to be cool and walk the streets.

Hey, listen, we all have the same 24 hours, though.

Bill Belichick experiment at UNC is even bigger disaster than expected.

They got blown out by UCF 34-9.

Tar Hills only managed 217 total yards, 2.5 yards per carry against the Knights squad.

Picked the finish

dead last in the Big 12 preseason poll.

This outlook looked bleak for the

four games in the Coach Belichick's coaching era at Chapel Hill.

They're not two and two, but the two wins have come against Charlotte and Richmond.

Now, guys, should we have concerns about Coach Belichick's tenure off the field?

Now, we've heard, now, it'd be very, very interesting if the situation,

you know, he banned the Scouts.

Banning the Scouts doesn't hurt Coach Belichick.

It hurts the players that wants the Scouts to come see him.

And then he has a situation where they talk about his girlfriend and how she's this and how she's that.

You read the articles.

So I'm not breaking news to anybody that's listening to Ocho and Johnny and myself tonight.

I'm not breaking any news, but it seems to be there are these articles that keep coming out how she's around and how he seems not like the coach Belichick, because I can imagine, Ocho, do you think this situation, he would have been a situation like this

in New England?

I don't know.

We don't know.

We don't know, but I'm just saying.

He seems different now than he was in New England.

Yeah, I think Bill Belichick has always been about business.

The way he conducts himself when it comes to the game of football, that will never change.

That will never change.

The way he approaches the game, now, the difference is in North Carolina and New England, obviously you have the players, you have the personnel to be able to execute and do the game plan schematically that you have.

Also, he banned the scouts.

Well, what the hell are scouts coming for?

What are they coming to watch?

They ain't coming to talk to you.

What the scouts coming to watch?

Have you watched

play?

Have you watched UNC play?

Johnny, have you watched North Carolina play?

Okay, well, what they're coming to watch?

Okay, they banned.

Well, they ain't really nothing to come see anyway.

No disrespect.

Now, as far as this girlfriend is concerned, obviously you have someone younger, someone you want to cater to a little bit more as opposed to those you've dated in the past who might have been of age and a little older that went around.

Obviously, wouldn't want to be around an NFL practice like that inside the NFL locker room or doing things in that

manner.

College, a little bit different, a little bit more lenient, different type of atmosphere.

And obviously you're dating someone much younger and you you want to more so cater to that listen i'm not in this personal business i don't know i don't i don't want to talk much much about that but until he gets the players in there to be able to compete with everybody else i mean it's his first year you i i would give bill bellichek one of the greatest of all time at the nfl level being at the collegiate level now things have to start working in your in your favor when you can get the players you need to compete with everybody else.

That's all it comes down to.

And i think you i think you look at it and you give him some time obviously this is a new league a new situation for him the whole process of what he's doing and the college football game is much much different than the nfl absolutely i don't think anybody was expecting unc to be a playoff team this year i don't think they've been very good or very competitive in the acc

probably since drake may was coming out this is really probably the last time i can't remember the last time i've turned on a north carolina game to actually watch a football game their jerseys look pretty cool

Colors fire, colors are nice.

You look good, but you get your ass stanked every Saturday.

You are not a football school.

So, for me, it doesn't entice me, but I think, as a whole, as you look at it from a college football landscape, Belichick has an opportunity to do something amazing.

If they get the right players and the right people in there, it will be a great story.

Right now, currently, with what they have on the roster and what it is in this transition, it's not going very well, but I don't think you can really sit there and judge as a whole until you get an ACC play.

You see how you stack up against other teams in your conference.

This is not a good look, obviously, using to a UCF team, but UCF is not a bad program.

They've had good years in the past.

They've, you know, got a good thing going down there.

So, I mean, they bought Scott Frost back.

Yeah, I mean, you got UCF is a solid program.

They're definitely more of a football school than North Carolina is or has been in the past, in my opinion.

So, the girlfriend stuff,

you don't see it anywhere else in college

and from him the media definitely jumped on it and made it a big thing maybe even bigger than it is but to be walking around the field and warm-ups and this t-mobile's friday night 5g lights is back for another season of hometown pride and big wins t-mobile brings communities together by giving high schools across america the chance to turn their friday nights into something unforgettable so far 25 finalists have won a $25,000 grant to upgrade their stadiums, and now these schools are going head-to-head for the $1 million grand prize package.

We're talking a game-changing homefield upgrade, a Gronk Fitness Weight Room Makeover, an epic tailgate party, and a VIP trip to the SEC Championship.

The winner?

That's up to you.

Head to FridayNight5GLights.com to meet the finalists and vote for your favorite school.

Go back every day until October 24th.

The champ will will be announced on October 30th.

Vote today.

Keep voting and help one school make history.

Let's go.

Tired of spills and stains on your sofa?

WashableSofas.com has your back, featuring the Anibay Collection, the only designer sofa that's machine washable inside and out, where designer quality meets budget-friendly prices.

That's right, sofas started just $699.

Enjoy a no-risk experience with pet-friendly, stain-resistant, and changeable slip covers made with performance fabrics.

Experience cloud-like comfort with high-resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing.

The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity, and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime.

Check out washable sofas.com and get up to 60% off your Anabay sofa, backed by a 30-day satisfaction guarantee.

If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund.

No return shipping or restocking fees.

Every penny back.

Upgrade now at washable sofas.com.

Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

Parking shouldn't slow you down.

ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut.

Book ahead, save up to 50% and skip the hassle of circling the block.

Park smarter, park faster, ParkWiz.

Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park.

Top Reasons Your Career Wants You to Move to Ohio.

So many amazing growth opportunities, high-paying jobs in technology, advanced manufacturing, engineering, life sciences, and more.

You'll soar to new heights just like the Wright brothers, John Glenn, even Neil Armstrong.

Their careers all took off in Ohio and yours can too.

A job that can take you further and a place you can't wait to come home to.

Have it all in the heart of it all.

Launch your search at callohiohome.com.

We are back with an all-new season of Snippies Cruising Confessions, and this time we're going much, much deeper.

Join me, Chris Patterson-Rosso, Rosso, and my co-host Gabe Gonzalez, as we explore queer sex, relationships, and culture in season two of our hot and hilarious iHeart podcast.

We'll be talking to piggy professors, kinky couples, dirty daddies, and so much more.

Ready to listen?

Just push play.

Starts off as a very standard cruising story.

Yeah, one that ever in the bathroom, someone follows you in.

God, you look familiar.

And then I'm going to call up one of my girls and be like, is this your dad?

Can you please confirm?

Is this your dad?

Please confirm.

I have never, ever, ever run into a friend's parent on any dating app, at any party.

Good thing you and your friends don't go cruising together, right?

They might have had a very different experience

wishing you and

from under the mat.

You just see the mouth button and you're like, dad, is that you?

You can listen to Snippy's Cruising Confession sponsored by a Healthy Sexual from Gilead Sciences, now on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

New episodes every Thursday.

This and that and the cameras, when you know it's happening and you know it's causing a stir, when you know you're going to go into a press conference and get asked about it and all this stuff that comes along with it, it almost gets to the point like, why the fuck would you do it?

Like, like, why?

You know, you're just adding more scrutiny and more things to the pot.

Like,

honey, sit in the suites.

Baby, girl, I'll see you after the game.

What are we talking about?

It's obviously a problem.

It's obviously an issue.

People look at it and they're talking about it every single week.

Does it make sense to me?

And it's so unbeliech.

But at this point in time with all that he's done maybe he's just like i am that guy i can do what i want and i'm gonna do whatever it is i want they gave me the keys to this i'm gonna run it my way and you guys can watch and and and hate from the outside and the funny thing too about bill obviously knowing him personally he don't give two you know what about what nobody say what nobody think he don't care at all

at all he runs things his way and he's going to always continue to run them his way because his way works and it always has Now, obviously, they're not winning right now, but them not winning had nothing to do with her.

It had nothing to do with her.

Those that are watching and making stories about her being around, listen, it's blowing is being blown out of proportion because of who he is.

If it was anybody else, it wouldn't be talked about.

But let me ask you a question.

He would always tell you guys distractions.

This is a distraction for his football team.

Now, he would say, he would say, let's limit to the distractions.

Let's make sure it's about football.

Now people are talking about things that are not football related.

So the biggest distraction created at the University of Chapel Hill is Bill Belichick and what he had in the extracurricular act.

I ain't saying there's nothing wrong with it.

He's consenting.

She's consenting.

It is what it is.

But we've never seen anything like this.

And I'm a little old and all both over y'all.

I've never seen.

Cole Saban or Vince Dooley or Bo Schimbeckler or

I've never seen any of their, I didn't even, you saw their wives after the game when they came down on the field after a big game.

You didn't see them, man.

If Alabama beat

Eastern Michigan, you didn't see Miss

Coach Saban's wife on the field, Miss Terry.

Now they beat Auburn, they beat Georgia, they win the national championship.

You're going to see Miss Terry by his side.

Yeah.

But that was the only time.

So I think the biggest thing is, Ocho, given what we know about Coach Belichick and how he's run his programs in his 20 years in New England, matters to distractions.

Guys, we don't need distraction.

Him saying very little.

And for the most part, a lot of the things being talked about is

his girlfriend.

They're not talking about his team's bad.

Ain't really anything good to say about it.

But the distraction that

he's allowing to be created.

And so that's what's surprising, I think, to a lot of people, because we've never seen a coach of his caliber

like do do like this.

I mean, I saw like before the game, Ocho, like he's on, like, he's on the sideline and she back there and they talking like they going over game plan.

I'm like, well, damn, this, I said, I don't know.

So I'm just like, I'm wondering, I wonder what's going to be said.

I can assure you.

Even he's Coach Belichick.

I don't know if the alumni, I don't know if

the chancellor, the president, or whatever they call him at the University of North Carolina, I don't know if that's what he signed, they signed up for.

I agree.

It's odd.

It doesn't coincide with everything that he's been about, about football throughout the

entirety of his whole career.

So I agree.

I would think that somebody within the higher ups of North Carolina kind of be like, what exactly is this?

What are we doing here?

Because if she's sitting there drawing some plays in the dirt and breaking down film and trying to get us some days value,

so be it.

We'll take that wherever we can get it.

We'll take it from the janitor.

We'll take it from anybody we can get it throughout the organization.

But that's not what this is.

Clemson, which was the top five team to open the season, is one and three.

The Syracuse lost at home.

They lost at home to Syracuse 34-21.

Dabo was seen crying on the field after the game.

Nick Sabin has some tough love advice for Dabo.

Dabbo needs to look at what he needs to do in this program to make this program continually successful.

Do you have to change the portal?

Do you have to change name, image, and likeness?

The game has changed.

You need to change with it.

Otherwise, you're not going to put yourself in the same position other people are and have a chance to be successful.

This is the worst start to Clemson since 2004 and the

worst start ever in the Sweeney era.

You know, he talks about, I don't believe in the portal.

I don't believe in this.

I don't believe players should get paid.

Okay, Dabbo.

There are a lot of coaches that thought like that until they started getting their ass kicked by teams that were using the portal when the teams that were using the NIL.

Now, one of two things is going to happen, Dabbo.

Either you're going to adapt or you're going to do like Coach Sabin, or you're going to do like Coach K, or you're going to do like some of these others.

You're going to go sit your ass down.

Because if you think your way, you think somebody's going to go to Clip.

hey now they're gonna you're gonna you're gonna still get some players but if you think a player has an opportunity to go to ohio state and alabama and georgia and miami or michigan and they can get two million dollars or go to clemson and somebody oh get a scot oh i just know bro that ain't happening hey uh it's not gonna work johnny dabbo knows that the landscape of football has changed College football is different now.

Listen, y'all might not watch soccer, but like Liverpool and Man City, you have to pay to win.

If you play, if you play FIFA, if you play Ultimate Team, if you play Madden, you got to pay to win.

It's the same thing in college football.

Dabbo said some of the things he said in the past.

That lets me know that you don't want to adapt to the times that we're in now.

What means, basically, you're trying to use the Blackberry.

You're trying to use a flip phone.

It's not going to work.

Two-way.

Two-way.

Listen.

He's still using Joe.

That too.

Hey, Johnny, everything has evolved.

The game has evolved.

And if you don't evolve with it, adapt or die.

It's going to pass you by.

Check this out.

Because remember, Ocho, he was

supposed to retire once the players started getting paid.

Once these players start getting paid, it'll be time for Dabo to lead the game.

What Dabo do?

Got a raise?

Yeah, now check this out.

Dabo said most of the guys that's in the portal aren't good enough to play for Clemson.

Well, Syracuse just beat Clemson with a transfer quarterback, transfer offensive lineman, transfer leader receiver, transfer leading tackler.

Hey,

you might have players that ain't good enough to play for Clemson, and that'd be your problem.

Why are you over there bumping your gums?

Yeah.

Listen, he stood on business.

He stood on business this last week, too.

We won the conference eight out of 10 years.

I respected what he said, right?

Because his pedigree of what he's done is shown for itself.

Of course, they've been at the top of the ACC, which, if we're just being honest, hasn't been a very strong conference or had really competition in anything for the last decade.

So they're kind of cakewalking through a lot of it, to be honest.

It hasn't been basketball.

You get to the ACC championship game.

They're mopping people by 40.

The teams are battling to go seven and six.

Like, okay, yes, you've won the conference.

Not a very good one, to be honest.

Yes, you've been in some national champions.

You've had some great players that have come through.

Those days of what they were doing, Deshaun Watson, all the guys that came through

defensive lineman that they had, Ocho.

Dehop, all the things.

There ain't no players on that Clemson roster that look like that.

De-Hop?

There ain't it.

So you're going to have to go and adapt and be like, we'll take, maybe you don't have to go to the hit the portal and get 15 guys, but you better go take three or four.

You better go take three, four, or five.

You better look around and start studying some film and seeing what guys are doing from smaller schools and go get you one.

Because if not, people on your schedule are going to go get you one and they're going to whoop that ass.

Look at Georgia.

Look at the teams that go.

Uh, uh, the best safety in college football is Caleb Downs.

He left the University of Alabama.

Everybody get because you know, he said, Hey, this program, I, you know, I win, I do it.

Okay, let me know how that works out for you.

Now, we're going to check back with you in a couple years.

Now, I understand.

He's absolutely right, Ocho.

He's won the championship.

He's won the conference eight out of 10 years.

What do they got to do with now?

To my point, they paid you for that.

Now, if you think that you're going to just be able to coast, well, I want eight out of 10 years and we be having this same conversation three, four years from now, that ain't going to happen, Dabbo, because what you've done is you've created expectations.

Certain programs, you have expectations.

Dabo, you created that for Clemson.

Alabama have expectations.

Ohio State has expectations.

Michigan has expectations.

Georgia has expectations.

Oklahoma has expectations.

Teams, certain teams have created what we call expectations.

If you think because what you've done in the past, that's going to be good enough.

No, it's not.

Boy,

they fly a coker.

He won national championship.

Look at the record that he had.

Yeah.

I have a question.

Yes.

Because of his resume, because of what he's done in the past, how much of a leash does Davo have if things continue to go sour this season?

I think another year, two max

you got another year or two for sure he's he's earned that with what he's done for sure and you give him a chance to adapt i still think this clemson team will find a way to write this ship a little bit you look at the rest of their schedule i mean north carolina coming up boston college smu has a has a decent team but they're still sitting at two and two duke and then florida state Louisville, Furman, South Carolina.

So, I mean, they'll be able to ride the ship, make this season look somewhat respectable.

But at the end of the day, it's playoff or bus right now.

That's a down year for them.

One that makes it really hard to go into recruiting and everything else that comes along with it.

And that's the problem that you have because South Carolina, even though they lost again today,

South Carolina, you know, could possibly beat them again, could beat them.

And you look, first of all, you're not making the college football playoff with three losses.

That's not going to happen.

And so now, what are you selling?

What are you selling them?

Yeah, you made the college.

I think they made the college football playout last year.

So you could sell that.

But

you, you, it's, it's been a while.

He's going to have to adopt.

It's tough to build on.

You really are selling the past and selling a little bit of a legacy.

And you come to a good school, get a good education.

We have a good football program, but you're not selling it that we have a great football program right now.

You have pieces that are on your roster that you can look at when you come to practice and you come see how the guys work, the facilities.

You still have something great to offer, right?

That's the positive thing for Clemson.

You have a coach that knows how to get guys to the next level.

That's a positive thing.

I think you have a coach there that seems like a great person, seems like a good leader, seems like he runs a good program, one that if you're looking at it from a parental aspect, you would be like, I want my son to go there and play for this man.

He's going to come out better.

He's going to get a good education.

He's going to be able to play high-level football.

So you have a lot of things still going for you at Clemson.

But at the end of the day, winning is what matters.

Being at the top is what matters.

And having a team and selling point that you can go to the national championship if you come here and play for this school, that's a major, major thing.

You're absolutely right.

And

you're not getting that level of player.

I mean, think about it.

You lose, you go from Deshaun to Trevor Lawrence.

You got Christian Wilkins.

You got Cleland Farrell.

You got Dexter Lawrence.

You got AJ Terrell.

You go Sammy Watkins and DeAndre Hopkins.

And you go Markavius Bryan.

You look at the level of talent that they were getting,

not getting that now.

No, it was a fact.

They're not getting that back now.

You're definitely not getting it if your pocketbook ain't open.

Right.

You're definitely not getting it if you ain't writing no checks.

Yeah, a Tahoe ain't gonna get it.

Once upon a time, a Tahoe or Denali would get you something.

Not with other keys giving you Lambo's and Ferrari

and McLaren's.

That ain't gonna cut

a cullen and an Uris.

Hey, Ocho, do you want a denaly or do you want an uris

you want a cad lack you want a cad lack or do you want a cullin it the choice is yours he cool he cool on a smart car

hey hey ocho i understand it's clips of south carolina

johnny and pickups might be handy so maybe you offer a shelby one of those shelby uh forwards yeah they nice i almost got me one almost got one that i might swing back around in two years but i was like you know hey right now i'm not in that i'm not in the pickup space head space.

I got you, I got you, Johnny.

We're gonna get you out of here on this one.

Indiana destroyed the fighting alien eye 63 to 10 in top 25 matchups.

If I'm not mistaken, it was the first time both of these teams, teams had been ranked since 1951, hosting the ninth ranked Illinois Bloomington Saturday night.

The number 19 Hoosiers manhandle Luke Ottmeyer and the Fighting Alieni.

They swarmed the quarterback all night, harassing him into quick throws, and they beat them 63 to 10.

Demoralizing Brett Bielema's team.

63 to 10.

You're not supposed to get beaten 63 to 10, Johnny, if you're two top 25 matchups.

It ain't supposed to happen.

You've been a top 10 team for most of the season.

You have a lot of expectations going into it.

You get 63 hung on you.

This is a...

humbling, humbling moment in their season and one that will define their season, right?

Indiana gets a lot of flack from last year.

Getting into the playoff, were they deserving of being there?

They get routed in the playoff.

Everybody's kind of making fun of them.

But what you do with that going to the playoff is you build off of it, right?

You have good players that are experienced, that have been there.

They know what it's like.

They won a lot of games last year.

So you're building a culture that's, hey, we're winning some games.

We are not the Indiana of old.

We are not going to be pushed around and bullied.

And when you go out and score 63 and 10 versus a ranked team, that's something you build on in a positive way.

On the other side with Illinois, this is a wake-up call.

This is, man, maybe we were reading too many of those press clippies

about

how great we were, but we are what we thought we were.

And this is a time for us to either come together, button up, and still go do what you want to do in the season.

One loss versus a ranked team that you look back and is going to be fighting for a playoff spot doesn't kill you, but you either shrink.

and hide and it changes your season or you come together strong as a unit and try to fix the things you need to fix because 63 to 10 is uh

that's a that's that's a day that you'll remember for a while

beat like that you're ain't nobody going out ain't no part hey man you going to the party you going to the uh the friend part hell no you think i want part you want somebody you think i want somebody to see me after this ass whipping i just took oh no i'll see y'all i'll see y'all monday i ain't even leave my room i'm gonna have my roommate pick me something up

it's post-made for that boy man hell no coming outside No, man.

Hey, first of all, I wasn't really outside like that anyway, Ocho.

But if we lost by more than a touchdown, nah, I couldn't let down.

This is a bottle of whiskey on the couch in the Xbox type of night.

You're going to be trying a box of tissue after this one because you're going to be sitting there looking at the mirror, staring at the ceiling.

Like, damn,

we went out sad.

Nine of them.

Oh, hell no.

You're sitting on the sideline for the boys who didn't play, and you're just going

flying by you in the end zone.

All you see is

refs raising their hands all night.

Smelling the odor all night.

Like, yeah, he got on shore.

Yeah, he got on.

Thank you, Johnny, for joining us tonight.

Make sure you guys go subscribe to the part, Johnny Glory Days, featuring Johnny Manzel on his YouTube channel.

Make sure you hit that subscribe button.

Make sure you hit that like button.

There it is on the screen.

Glory Days with Johnny Manzale.

Johnny, before I go, I am

off to the great city of Las Vegas here right after this.

I need a

from each of you.

I'm hitting the roulette table.

What we got?

Hey, Johnny, do me a favor.

You like Frank Sinatra?

You like the right pack?

The rat pack?

No it.

Do me a favor.

Go and see the rat pack.

At the Tuscany Hotel and Casino at some point when you're in Vegas.

It's a wonderful show.

You'll like it.

You enjoy it.

I'm not sure.

I tried to get Ank to go.

He's not listening to me.

Maybe I can get you to go.

I'm going to go check it out.

I need two numbers for both of you because I go, I'm putting a rack on each of them.

Got it.

You need to teach me how to gamble, man.

I got you.

Baccarat's my thing.

I'm about to go.

Yeah.

See, I mean, I've really never played roulette.

So you want, I'm at it.

One through one through one through 36, both of you.

27.

27.

Eight.

And eight.

I split spoke the project.

All right, bet.

Enjoy it, man.

Have a good one.

Johnny Manzale.

Podcast Glory Day with Johnny Manzel.

Make sure you go check it out.

Appreciate it, Johnny.

Oh, Joe, Brown's wide receiver, Jerry Judy, said last week the 11 and a half point betting line against the Ravens was disrespectful.

Judy just fired off double barrel middle fingers during the pregame introduction.

Judy was fined $14,491 for the gesture to the crowd.

And also, the Ravens won $4,117, more than double what the spread was.

Hey, hey,

they, hey,

there were a few fines that the NFL handed out.

That's like, listen, I understand the double finger, the double barrel, double middle finger.

They're going to get you every time, Oncho.

Yeah, they're going to get you every time.

They find Saquon Barkley $46,000, huh?

For lowering his helmet.

He plays running back, Uncle.

You told me they didn't call it.

You say, oh, they all did call that oh i saw it today i saw the day go by on twitter and i looked at the play i'm like what the hell is he supposed to do like what are we doing what is the competition committee or whoever it is whoever's passing out these fines it's still the game of football can't lower your hand anymore

you can't change the way you play you can't change the way you run you can't change the way you tackle what are we doing

Hey, I thought you always were supposed, when I did play running back, they always say run behind your pads.

And even when I wasn't a running back, I tried to, you know, I'm going to go into a crowd.

I'm going to run behind my pads.

Right.

You got to.

I'm not going to give you all this to hit.

Hey, and if you don't run behind your pads, you're going to get yourself hurt.

You sure will.

They'll saw your ass in half.

Hey, then you will be

running behind your pads because your ass be doubled up.

Yep.

Let's be real.

Life happens.

Kids spill.

Pets shed.

And accidents are inevitable.

Find a sofa that can keep up at washable sofas.com.

Starting at just $699, our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out, so you can say goodbye to stains and hello to worry-free living.

Made with liquid and stain-resistant fabrics, they're kid-proof, pet-friendly, and built for everyday life.

Plus, changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want.

Neat flexibility?

Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa anytime to fit your space, whether it's a growing family room or a cozy apartment.

Plus, they're earth-friendly and trusted by over 200,000 happy customers.

It's time to upgrade to a stress-free, mess-proof sofa.

Visit washablesofas.com today and save.

That's washablesofas.com.

Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

Parking shouldn't slow you down.

ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut.

Book ahead, save up to 50%, and skip the hassle of circling the block.

Park smarter, park faster, park whiz.

Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park.

Top Reasons Your Dog Wants You To Move to Ohio.

Amazing dog parks to stretch your legs.

All four of them.

Dog-friendly patios.

Even gourmet hot dogs loaded with the good stuff.

Bone apetee.

And Ohio has so many high-paying jobs, you'll be top dog in no time.

Jobs in technology, engineering, science, advanced manufacturing, and more.

The career you want and a life you'll love.

Have it all in the heart of it all.

Go to callohiohome.com.

What does Zin offer you?

Not just hands-free nicotine satisfaction, the freedom to do things your way.

When is the right time for Zinn?

Anytime you need smoke-free, device-free time for you.

Why bring Zinn into your life?

Because America's number one nicotine pouch opens up the endless possibilities of right now.

Find your Zin.

Learn more at Zinn.com.

Warning, this product contains nicotine.

Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

Every business has an ambition.

PayPal Open is the platform designed to help you grow into yours with business loans so you can expand and access to hundreds of millions of PayPal customers worldwide.

And your customers can pay all the ways they want with PayPal, Venmo, Pay Later, and all major cards, so you can focus on scaling up.

When it's time to get growing, there's one platform for all business: business: PayPal Open.

Grow today at paypalopen.com.

Loan subject to approval in available locations.