Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to talk the World Championships in Japan

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to discuss him winning the silver medal in the World Championships in Japan, Bleacher report releases their Franchise QB list, and the Atlanta Falcons cut Younghoe Koo and much more!

00:00 - Bleacher Report's Franchise QB List
5:35 - Kenny Bednarek
11:55 - Play or Fade
58:50 - Falcons cut kicker Younghoe Koo
55:50 - Q & Ayyyyyy

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Oh, Joe, you're not gonna like this.

Bleacher Report just released the list saying only four NFL quarterbacks are true franchise quarterbacks. Number one, my homeboy.
Number two, Josh Allen. Number three, Lamar Jackson.

Number four, Matthew Stafford. They said the following players just missed the cut.
Joe Burrow,

for the most, Joe Burrow already finds himself among the top tier. However, he needs to be on the field to truly earn that designation.

Multiple injuries throughout the years have blunted this standing, despite one of the game's best and most efficient passes. Jalen Hurts, when nitpicking over the actual, the best game important

position, he's still difficult to envision. Hurts shouldering the entire Eagles offense with a a less talented rounding

and still being as successful.

Jordan Love has, as long as he minimized turnovers and helped push the young receivers targets found on the Packers roster, the fifth year quarterback has a chance to be counted among the league's best.

Jaden Daniels. Daniels has quite a good start to a sophomore campaign.
Daniels has every tool to be successful, to succeed. He just needs to on a consistent basis.

Baker Mayfield, his competitiveness and enthusiasm are infectious, though in the 29th, 2018, the number one overall pick does benefit from an awesome wide receiver core and good offensive line when healthy.

He doesn't, he also doesn't have quite the same playmaking capabilities as others did that made the list. Ocho,

they say they got four. They got my homeboy, Josh Allen, Lamar, Matthew Stafford.
They say the next tier was Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurst, Jordan Love, Jane Daniels, and Baker Mayfield.

You got a problem with that four. The fourth four is.

I don't have a problem with that four, but the whole point of the list was teams that have franchise quarterbacks, I thought, right?

Fruit, yes. Yeah, well,

they can't choose the tiers based on franchise quarterbacks. Because we're not talking about who's the best.
We're just talking about teams that have franchise quarterbacks.

The Bakers have a franchise quarterback, whether he gets hurt or not.

Well, you got to be on the field.

Come on, come on, don't do that because he hurts. But that's what I'm saying.
That's that's that's that's why they docked him. Oh, okay, okay, because think about it, oh Joe.

First year, what did he do? AC first year, ACL, right?

What the third year, it was what was his hand or his shoulder? Yeah, I think his wrist, his wrist,

remember his wrist.

Now, if uh, hold on, what is it now?

Oh, what did he hurt now? Remember, his toe, his toe, his toe, yeah, turf toe.

So, there's a possibility, Ocho, he could miss.

He's coming back in December. He'll be back in December.

That's if everything goes perfect. Oh, it's definitely going well.
It's going to go well.

I'm talking about he's going to be fine, especially with

technology and

stuff.

But brother Jake Browning, you're going to see tomorrow. I don't mean to, I don't mean, I'm going to speak things in existence.
You know, my grandma always told me.

Anything you want, all you have to do is speak it into existence. Boy, we finna beat the breaks off Minnesota, man.

We finna beat the breaks off minnesota and carson went huh but now now back to the topic of hand they're they're they're it's a small selection of quarterbacks teams that have franchise quarterbacks justin herbert is a franchise quarterback

jalen hurst is a franchise quarterback they're they're going on specifics based on the way they win as as as knox oh because he doesn't pass well because they didn't have a lot no they had nothing to do with it there are teams that have quarterback that you can build around jaden daniels cj stroud these are franchise altering quarterbacks for the next 10 years these teams don't have to do anything except build around those quarterbacks

so

I agree with the four but there are others that belong in that category and if we talk about the best quarterbacks then you could put them in tiers uh you can you can do that you could nitpick you know when we talk about tiers of who's better but the topic was what teams have franchise quarterbacks and those are quarterbacks that you don't have to touch or be worried about and just have to build around them?

I think that, plus, you got to look at a franchise quarterback. If I took, if I took, if I took Jayden, if I took Jalen Hurts and I gave him Patrick Mahomes offense,

could he get that team to a Super Bowl? Could he do what he did in Philly? Ooh, that's different. That's different.
I like that you. Because that's what they're saying.

When they look at a franchise quarterback, they said that if it's kind of like the Job situation, if we remove the hedge,

which is the greatness of that offensive line, if we remove that running game, we took A.J. Bryan, we took Devontae.
And let's just say we gave you Kansas City's offense. Right.
Okay.

Let's just say we gave you Buffalo's offense.

Could you still be, could you still get that team to the playoffs? Could you still go win a Super Bowl? I see. I like I like that you did that.
Now, when you did that, that changes the whole dynamic.

That changes everything because you could put Mahomes on any team and he'll have success. You could put Lamar Jackson.
So, what would Mahomes look like with that with

Miller with Philly's offensive line, that running game, and those receivers?

That wouldn't be fair.

Or you put Josh,

put Josh Allen in that, to put Josh Allen in that system. Put Lamar Jackson in it.

Put Lamar in there. Okay.
If I turn around, if I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in Lamar's system, it's going to be the same thing. If I put Josh, if I took Matthew Stafford and put him in Philly.

Hey,

listen, and you got to think, everybody you mentioned, you talk about gunslingers. Yes.

Just having the addition of a running back in the offensive line like that, if you put any of those quarterbacks in Philly, it's almost unfair. Right.
It's almost unfair when you think about it.

So,

look, I understand because I think the thing is, Ojo, you're like, oh, he's really good. Yeah.
There's always only been like franchise altering.

There's only been a handful of them.

In the 80s, you go back. You You go back, look at the 90s, you go back.
You look at the 2000s. You look at the 10s.
And

there's only been a handful of them. There's never been 10 franchise quarterbacks.
We just now, anybody that have a good year, they're a franchise quarterback now.

Where we used to make guys play three, four good years before we bestowed that title on them. That's the way we used to be, Ocho, with any position, not just the quarterback.
Right.

Bro, you couldn't just go to the Pro Bowl and then all of a sudden say, oh,

I'm a top flight wide receiver or X, Y, and Z. Oh, Ocho, we got a very special guest joining us today.

Hey, this guy won the silver medal in the 200 meters in Tokyo.

uh at the world uh uh in tokyo the olympic game in 2024 he back again he won the silver medal again and the world championships in eugene in 24 he won the silver medal in the 200 in tokyo just the other day he won the silver medal in the 200 meters hey at some point in time he says i keep knocking on the door i'm gonna be i'm gonna be the first one to be i'm I'm going to be the first one to get in the house.

Kenny, your fourth championship, you get silver. How difficult? Because I know you were in great condition.
You dropped down to the 100. Everything was perfect.
You got great endurance.

You got great speed. You built that.
I know you please. Look, you got on the podium.
And at the end of the day, yeah,

I podium.

But the goal.

What you got to do to get the goal, Kenny?

And

I just got to work on the small little things i mean like you said before i i'm in really good shape i have the endurance i got the speed i got everything i just gotta figure out how to get that last 10 meters because that's where it seems like it's been you know just getting away from me right there right there you're right there

this last race kid i thought i said oh damn look at kenny hey he pulled up on you you like okay you pulled ahead and like you said it was that last 10 meters i was like damn kenny yeah i mean honestly i would say for this championship this was the best uh second half I ever had in a while.

Um, because usually I always tend to get in the lead and I kind of give it away. Uh, but yeah, as soon as LaVelle kind of got right next to me, it was just, hey, make sure not to panic.

I already know that I'm in good shape and just keep on going. And uh, you know, doing that from lane eight, that's all I can ask for.

So, I, I mean, yeah, it's like a little bittersweet moment right now for me because I've always been knocking on that door.

But you know, eventually, I'm gonna get it because every single year, you're gonna kick the door in, huh?

I'm gonna, I'm gonna put my foot in that door.

Hey, first off,

first off, I want to say congratulations. And I want you to take me through what it's like that moment before you get in the blocks.
What's that feeling like? Crowd?

Is it quiet or do you hear the noise? Do you have butterflies? Are you nervous? I'm curious what that feeling is like before that gun goes off for you.

I feel like younger me, the nerves are really there, but now, you know, I'm a vet now and I've been, I've been here for a very long time. But yeah,

I just embrace the moment. I mean, the crowd doesn't get too big for me.
You know, I literally stare at the crowd right before the race and like, okay, it's go time. And as soon as they say set,

everything is ready to go. I'm in that flow state.
So just trying to execute my race and go. Okay, okay.
I like it. Kenny, man, all I want to know is, man, look, we got all these fast 100-meter guys.

Can we get the baton around the track? That's all I want to know, Kenny.

Can we get, can't we, look, I mean, because for far too many times on the global stage, Kenny, we got the fastest men, but somehow the baton end up on the track or we get out of our passing lanes.

Can we get it around the track tomorrow? Hey, we for sure going to do it.

I mean, well, we got eight more hours to go, so I'm getting ready for that, but we've been practicing hard and we're ready to go. I mean, like you said before,

we always had the foot speed, but it's more so the precision of the baton and just making sure to do our job, man. We're going to get the job done this time.
Okay.

Let me see if I get this right. Okay.
Christian Coleman is going to start it off. He's the greatest starter in American history.

yeah are you are you still in second leg or did they move you to third i think i'm still in second i mean that's where i feel like i'm best utilized and you know i'm gonna make sure to do my job so we're gonna handle our business when it comes to that obviously no one's gonna be on the anchor and he's when when he's been anchor we have yet to lose yeah

so who go who goes third i think courtney lindsay my training partner so uh yeah i think you know the good thing about this relay squad is you know christian's my teammate courty's my teammate so already we already have that chemistry so i think

just keep it close. Just keep it close.

You know, Canada, they powder their chairs. The grace, he piled in his chair.
He doing all this. I don't want to see none of that.
I don't want to see none of that.

I don't want to see none of that tomorrow. Like I said, we're going to handle business.
I mean, Canada, you know,

they always kind of, they always get things right. I mean, the practice.

I want to say they're sneaky, but I mean, they've been using the same squad for the last, what, eight years or something like that? So they got those handoffs down.

So we just got to make sure to do our job and we do that. Then we're good.

You're one of the few guys that's ever been able to run, you know, sub 20. Um, you know, you run sub 45,

it was it was really shaky, it was really shaky for the 400 meters.

We had to run against, I think it was the Kenyans or somebody, just two people, just two teams, and it was basically whoever finished first.

Ah, I saw the Bot Swannon team.

And they looking good.

I'm scared.

I ain't gonna lie to you, Kitty.

Kenny, I'm scared. They go 1-3-5, and they didn't even have Tobogo.
If they bring Tobogo, they ran 257 without Tobogo.

I'm nervous, Kenny. I'm like a long-tailed dog on a porch full of rocket chairs.
I'm nervous like that, Kenny.

Hey, I mean, I trust that they're going to handle their business.

I mean, last year was a very close race, and it's going to be wire to wire for this one, too. So they just got to make sure to do their job.
And, you know, we're going to see who finished first.

Can we get, they're going to let Vern? They're going to let the old man. I mean, mean, because y'all know Vern is a game.
They call it the old man. Vern is a gamer.
Vern is a gamer.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I haven't spoken to the coaches.
I don't really know what team they're going to put up, but, you know, they're going to put the best players down.

And like I said, it's going to be wire to wire. So it's going to be a blast to watch that race.

Only thing I'm certain of is Rod running anchor leg.

He said something very interesting yesterday. I don't know if you heard him.
Did you hear what he said? He's not going to run very many hurdles. He's looking, I'm coming down to the four and the two.

Oh, he said that?

that's your territory yeah that's what rott said now if it's a lie he told it man he don't want to come he don't want to come down to the two we got we got too many people he says i'm coming i said i'm not going to run as many hurdle races i'm doing four and the two that's what he said he can step into the lines then but

he ain't gonna do anything there oh

now you know hey now i'm gonna broach this that guess what you said i'm gonna say right we had kid kung fu on and he said you can come to the lines then if you want to.

He said, you okay, but ain't nothing popping down here now. You might as well go ahead and stay with the hurdles, deal with Dos Santos, deal with Warholme, deal with Samba.

Don't come fooling with me, me and no, don't do that. Hey, yeah, don't do that.

You can stick with the four, but don't come down to that too. It ain't sweet.

Hey, Kenny, outside of track, do you, I mean, I know you guys are busy, obviously, when you're locked in, when you're in season, what do you like to do outside of track?

Do do you have any hobbies do you have anything else that you're passionate about that you'd like to spend your time

time doing i like to do anything that just requires me to be outdoors uh it can be simple things it's just like atv uh just sitting by a bonfire being with friends and family uh i like skiing playing basketball i like playing video games oh

whoa video games

what you play I've been playing Madden 2K every now and then. Okay.

Well, you play Madden? Yeah, I'm the best Madden player in the world. What you mean, do I play Madden? Man, I probably could beat you right now.

Kenny,

probably not even that good.

Can I tell you something real quick?

What?

Kenny, you can't even beat me in the 200 if we race, Kenny. What'd you say?

Hey, you better bring your spikes right now. Hey, my spikes right here in the trunk.
Yeah, you better put those on right now. I'll see you soon.
Okay, let me know.

Whenever you're miami, matter of fact, I can come to you. Yeah, come to me.
Okay, no problem. We can do that.
We can film the game. You're not right.

You can probably, what, like 20 22 23 seconds 23 eight nine

kitty you know what i ran at what i ran in high school what'd you run at high school 192

yeah right

yeah i ran 192 in high school hey another thing that i was gonna say i also um I also started picking up some kung fu stuffs, you know, because my whole thing is Kung Fu Kenny. So

this year, I started doing a little bit of that, but I had to be careful because obviously, you know, being a sprinter and everything,

there's a lot of things i can do can't do but but you skiing you ain't thinking about you you being a sprinter you skiing you riding atvs you doing a lot of stuff that can really that's really detrimental to somebody that use that that needs their legs yeah i know my uh my girlfriend liddy she'd be telling me not to do these things but i'm like bro i

I need to do something to let my brain kind of be at ease because, you know, I do track as a job. I used, you know, it used to be just for love and now it's a job.

So I got to do something outside to go back to be, okay, I can do what I can do again.

But yeah, it's just hard to, you know, figure out what exactly I want to do outside. So I'll do things I'm really not supposed to do every now and then, but you know, just one time.

There's nothing wrong with one time.

Yeah.

Look, we saw the net, we saw the USAs and we saw the 200. And you said, hey, this is, hey, this is going to be the day that I get it done.
And we thought, hey, you were so close. And then

Noah kind of nipped you at the tape and then kind of gave you a shove.

So what happened yeah yeah you shoved him yeah so i'm just trying to i'm trying to figure out what happened uh we just had a little beef that was kind of going on and uh did it start before the race or do it it started after he like he he looked at you like some kind of he looked at you sideways it started before the race so then you know once you know we crossed the finish line i saw that you know i gave him that that shove and you know i we both could have handled the situation a little bit different um we both have mutual respect for each other, but

I don't play when it comes to stuff like that.

And all I can say is that, you know, every single time I step on the track, you know, I want to whoop his ass.

Is that what I was going to say?

He'll stop looking at you. If you beat him, Kenny, you got to beat him.
Yeah, I know. Like I said, he's been getting the better than me for years.
So like I said, I'm just trying to improve myself.

Every single time I step on the track, every single year, I've been getting better, stronger, faster. And that time is coming soon.
Yeah.

And Kenny, there's really nothing wrong with a little friendly competition. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good for the sport.

I mean, the fact that every, I mean, when I did it, I didn't think anything of it. And then, you know, it was all over the news.
I was like, oh, okay, I guess.

You didn't think nothing of it. You showed a man in the back and y'all running.
You ain't think nothing of it.

Hey, like I said, it was further the moment. But like I said,

we discussed about it and, you know, we on the same page and we got that mutual respect for each other. But yeah, it's definitely good for a sport.
We need healthy rivalries like that.

So every single time we, you know, I, like i said i stepped down in the hundred um you know i didn't do what i wanted to do when it came to the finals but you know i was in really good shape to do something crazy in that hundred finals um so you know i'm just excited for the next year's you know oh yeah there are the rumors swirling that that burner account track spice that that might be you nah that's not me hey all i can say about that is that me my social media team we don't we don't handle that account at all i mean when it comes to that that's just noise and i just try to ignore that i mean that's all drama for me i just focus on on track and you know people are going to say what they're going to say they're going to believe me whether they believe me or not it doesn't really matter to me let me ask you something you you witnessed this you saw sid one year

she took the 400 meters she said you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna set the i'm gonna set the hurdles aside And I'm just going to focus my attention on the 400. And we see in one year, not only.

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Did she win the USAID? She goes on the global stage. and runs the second fastest time that's ever been run.
A lot of people like, I mean, think about how many women have run

40, they're like, no, nobody's going to do it. I didn't think I was going to see a woman be able to, because really, when you think about it, no one has really come close.
I mean, think about it.

Nobody has come within a half a second

of Coke's record until Sid,

when she ran 48, 29, I say, well, knowing that who's in this race, because you know, Kenny, in order to get a fast time or a world record or championship records, you need two things.

You need competition in the race and you need conditions. Now, she didn't get the conditions, but she got Paulino and she got NASA.

And when she got them, she knew because when Paulino got lane eight,

she knew and Pauline did something she normally never she don't normally go out like that. NASA is always going to take it out.

So if I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, Bobby Kersey probably told her, NASA's going to take it out. Attach yourself to NASA.
Let her pull you to Paulino.

You're strong enough in the last 100 to bring it home. When you saw her run, when you saw her get out and she was smooth and you saw that time, what went through your mind when you saw 47, 78?

I wasn't surprised. I mean, after seeing Sydney do what she did in the previous race, I was just like, world record? I think she can hit it.

Wow, yeah. I mean,

Sydney's a gamer. Like, she's a dog.
I mean, you know, we've seen what she's done in the hurdles. I wasn't sure exactly what she was going to do when she came down to the four.

You know, the first race she ran, I was like, okay, that looked pretty good. But yeah, she's a hard worker.
And I mean, yeah, that's insane.

Yeah, I don't know what she's going to do after this year, but I feel like, hey, you should just go after that world record. You're so close.

You might as well just go after it. I mean, the hurdles right now for her, just, you know, that's her main event and it's easy for her.

So, you know, just test yourself what she did this year and just try to get that world record next year.

I think the thing, what she really wants to do, Kenny, she wants to take that.

She wants to take the hurdles under 50 because she knows that she said she puts that record under 50 that record might be like flow joe 100 meters it might be like flojo's 200 meters

that's what she wants it might be like coke's 400 meter record because something that like when you think about it ain't i mean you can say well what you call me 1050 uh 1054 uh elaine thomps ran 1054 flojo ran 1049.

like uh

I mean, she had everything perfect. I mean, wasn't nobody close to Flojo when she was running those times.
But

you think in the next year, because I think Bobby is positioning her, he's going to position the committee. We'll do the 4-4 because that's all there is left.
Ain't really nothing left.

She runs the hurdle. Can't nobody beat her unless she hits a hurdle and falls down.

But as far as just like, okay, there's a competition, somebody line up. Femkabo can't see her because Fimka doesn't have the foot speed.

I understand Femka. She's unbelievable and she can beat everybody else.

But it's kind of like being in an era with you saying there were some fast guys in usane era it just weren't you saying there's some great hurdlers in sydney's era they're just not sydney yeah she's just she's she's just a different breed i mean like i said next year's uh next year's an off year we got ultimate championships so i don't know what's uh in store for her but i mean like i said she she definitely can just go after that whenever she wants to so

tell me tell me what the ultimate championships is so is that just the usas because the worlds like every odd year so we had 25 we had the worlds.

We're going to have the worlds again in 27, and then you got the Olympics in 28. So as an off year in 26, what's the ultimate championships? Explain that to us.

So the ultimate championships is just some like new event that World Athletics is having in September.

Instead of,

it's kind of similar like World Championships, but it's not exactly the same thing. Cause you know, usually you bring every country that qualified with the standard and all that.

World, the ultimate championship is like the best of the best. So I think you either go off of ranking or, you know, what you've done previously.

Uh, and it's only two uh races, so semifinals and finals. So, it's what, yeah, and the prize.

You can have something in the tank, you have something left to the tank, you ain't got to go all these four rounds. Yeah, I mean, honestly, me personally, I was like, I

wasn't sure if I wanted to do it for the next year, but then after what happened this year, I was like, Yeah, I'm definitely motivated to go there, get that prize purse because the prize purse I think is like a 150K or 100K at least, which is something that you know for a winner to win, yeah.

Damn, I might start training for something.

Hey, hey, Kenny, matter of fact, matter of fact, we can really solidify and kind of already put that money already in your pocket if you allow me to be a training partner.

Because if you allow me to train on the side of you,

I'm going to get you where you need to be. Man, you got to race me first before you're trying to be my training partner.

You want to race? You got to race me first if you want to be my training partner. But listen, I don't want to take your confidence away because that's what's going to happen if we race.

So I'd rather you just allow me to come into camp and be your training partner. I could be like the master.

I'll allow you to come into the camp and be my training partner. Right.

First of all, you got to go through my coach, Dennis Mitchell. He's, I don't know.

Hey, hey, hold on. I beat Dennis running back in the day.
So he really got no say so.

Hey, but y'all got a nice little group. Y'all got a nice little group down there.
Oh, we got training gaysville. Where are y'all training out of Gayville? Orlando? No, no, no.

We're pretty much in Orlando. Yeah.
Y'all got

lead jefferson tt y'all got kayla

kairi yeah yeah we got coleman meek uh uh aaron brown we got b stew we got we got a bunch of people we got kyrie as well courtney lindsay i mean every uh brendan hicklin like every freaking every freaking practice day it just seems like it's a it's a race it's intense i mean you know for me in particular having those guys in the group has really helped me perform at a higher level well damn y'all so basically the women's team is team Dennis Mitchell because everybody that's on the damn relay running Dennis Mitchell.

And y'all got three or four guys that owed him that. Hey, like I said, that's a hard work that we all put in.
Oh, yeah. That's a hard work.

If y'all don't come away with that gold medal, I'm going to feel some type of way. Hey, I told you, we got it.
We got it.

And I'll be on here talking. Hey, Kenny, I don't know if you be seeing it, but I'll be on here talking crazy to the Jamaicans.
And they'd be feeling some type of way.

I did be feeling some type of way because they ain't got you saying no more.

And it ain't no short thing because we want the gold and the silver in the hundred meters i said we repaid y'all we got to go and we got the fastest woman in the world can't nobody see mj yeah and we got the gold and the silver and guess what we was about to spank y'all in the relay but we ain't got to worry about that now

we about to put some all you in the relay but we got something for you Yeah,

when you say you're in shape,

what's an ideal weight for you, Kenny? What do you wear? 60, 65?

oh hell no i weigh way more than that i'm 190 right now i'm 190.

what okay yeah so you're not you're not the first person that's ever uh underestimated my weight i had a teammate of mine a couple years ago he's like what are you 160 i said no i'm 185 and he's like no way i just think most of my i have a lot of muscle and i have you probably seen photos of me like i don't have that much fat on me i think most of my muscle is in my legs i i don't know but yeah i weigh 190 192 i think last year was the heaviest i've ran at and that's just gave me way more power.

Well, see, I was thinking like, I was thinking like

Fred, I was thinking Fred Curly, because he's so tall that he's about 190. But I was like, once I was like somewhere between 60 and 70 for you, I didn't, I would have never guessed you were that.

Yeah, so what, when I came into the group originally in 2020, 2019, I was like 180 and I, you know, I was a 4-2 guy, but every single year, like I've been getting faster and stronger.

And yeah, I just, I guess was just, you know, getting older too, just gained a lot lot more muscle. The muscle maturity.
And it just makes it, honestly, it makes everything feel so much easier too.

I mean, sprinkling mechanics and all that, from the block starts to everything, like, it feels so much easier.

How tall are you?

6'2.

Okay, okay, okay. Damn.

Yeah.

And that's another thing. I mean, when I, you know, looking at you on television, you know, television, television normally adds size.

I would have never guessed you are as big as you are as far as 6'2, 190 pounds. That's that's big for a hundred meter sprinter you think so yes yeah yeah

i guess i'm different yeah i would i was thinking like i mean

like coleman what's coleman

like height wise or weight wise well height wise he can't be no more than five six five seven okay

I give him

on a good day, I give him eight, but I'm thinking five, seven. I don't know how much he weighs.
I would say maybe around like 160, 170. Yeah.

That would make sense. Yeah.
That's why.

But you feel, but you feel the, you like you mentioned when you got when you got the team, Mitch, you were 180, but you feel the extra 10 pounds of muscle gave you the power to thrust out of the blocks and it gave you the

top to be able to hold it in the 200. Because you were 200 special.
And a lot of times we see this: 200 specialists. We saw

Usain, who's a 200-meter specialist, drop down.

i think it was i think also with me running the four um i pretty much ran the four my whole life and then you know i ran 44 7 in college and then i went to dennis group and then after that he he made me run the two and the one pretty much permanently um i think that was just the endurance was just instilled in my body you know just growing up running long distance my whole life i also used to run cross country as well used to run some

yeah so i ran cross country in elementary all the way to what sixth seventh grade so i think once they they got a little bit up and distance, I was like, yeah, this ain't for me, you know?

So I just, I just went into football and then just did track. But I think just doing that in my development stages, that just really helped me bring that endurance and just made everything easier.

So yeah, I would say 190, 190, 192. If I go any higher, then maybe I'll be a little too heavy.
But right now, everything feels easy.

You had a very unconventional route. to where you became.
You went to a community college. You didn't go to Texas or Tennessee or one of these powerhouse LSU, Texas A ⁇ M.

That's not the route that you took. How were you able to stay focused taking this route? Because, you know, most of the guys that, you know,

you didn't turn pro, you didn't turn pro right out of high school.

I mean, I wasn't, I honestly, I wasn't that fast in high school, but

I think just my mom, you know, just, you know, I was, I'm adopted as well. So, you know, being a young kid, being adopted at four,

you know, just how to work just to be where I was.

I mean, she instilled good values in me every single day. I mean, she's, she was a single mother adopting four kids.
Like she, she was kind of the blueprint for me just to work hard every single day.

And,

you know, I was recruited by all the top schools at one point, but I was one of those kids where I was kind of like, oh, I don't really care about school. Let me just have fun and do sports.

Didn't realize. Didn't realize that, you know, hey, GPA matters when the schools want to come after you.
I mean, I think that was the question where junior year, they're like, what's your GPA?

I'm like, oh, shit.

So then, you know, I had to go. Not my 40.
It wasn't my 40s time.

You said, what was your 40 time?

No, yours wasn't your 40 time because you had a 4-2 GPA.

You'd have been Gucci. Yeah.

So, you know, I had to go for a junior college in the middle of Iowa.

called Indian Hills and, you know, the program,

brand new program.

Why you go to weather city to go run track how you go to iowa to run track i didn't think about stuff like that i mean i'm from wisconsin so i've already ran in the cold oh okay okay okay okay

yeah so you know i went to there for a year uh did my thing went pro

uh and yeah i mean just being from an adopted kid going into foster care like my whole life the the route just to get here was unconventional and you know i i give thanks to my mom on why i was able to you know be here where i am today and accomplish my dreams.

That's dope. So when it finally does happen, you beat Noah in the 200.

I mean, what are you going to do to celebrate? You're going to have a beer? You're going to have a piece of cake?

I mean, what's going to, because I mean, that's, I mean, have you ever beat Noah in the two?

I mean, I have, but it's the fact of, hey, I beat him while getting silver and somebody else got me, you know?

Oh, yeah, you beat him at the liberty. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
Yeah.

He got the bronze.

It's not really just about beating him it's just about getting that gold medal because you know my first year at the olympics uh in 2021 here at tokyo uh you know i beat i beat him but then andre degrasse got me so it's the same with this you know it's the same with paris beat him but then tobogo got me you know and like i said that's why it's just kind of frustrating because i'm not focusing on just him i'm focusing on just that gold medal because i know what i can do but it always seems like there's something and uh uh like i said running running from lane eight not saying it's an excuse it's just it's just tough because you're on the island you know you got one person ahead of you and you just got to make sure that be mentally strong and just think about yourself you can't think about nobody else because you're out there running by yourself you're running blind yeah pretty much but i mean you look at uh

wade van nieker when he run went into

rio he's in the farthest lane and he knows he has uh uh lashan

and he had what's the guy from uh

i remember watching that i don't remember his name though i just remember

he went from alabama uh oh my goodness i can't think of his name but anyway he knew they were back there and he knew those guys were sub 44 guys both had already won a gold medal in the 400.

and he just took he was the last qualifier and he just took off and he ran 40 40.

I had no idea.

I remember watching that when I was a kid. I just like, oh, he's going to burn out.
And he just kept running. I said, oh, my gosh.
That was the thing.

He didn't burn out. Yeah, he just kept going.
And I mean, honestly, that's the mentality I have when I get a lane draw like eight.

I'm just like, hey, I just got to go all gas and just execute my race and see what happens. No breaks.

So after the, after the

championships, how much time do you take off? Are you done for the rest of the year and just start?

Because I don't think you do the indoor season. So now,

okay, so now when will you start back? okay you're not gonna let yourself and say you you you say ideal shape is somewhere between 190 and 192.

well if you're not working out you might get up to 195 maybe even 200.

now soon will you start i don't even do that you you don't i don't gain weight i don't gain weight like that i usually so usually we have what a month and a half to two months depending on what coach wants right sometimes i'll maybe take uh a week or two more

but uh

what i do you know i do a lot of preventative stuff. So, you know, I give myself a week or two just to kind of do whatever I want to do.
And then after that, I'm in the gym or with my physio,

you know, just working on like strengthening small ligaments here and there. Cause, you know, the body's always compensating, especially when we're redlining every single time for the whole year.

For vacation, you know, I like to go to Thailand. Like last year or two years ago, I went to Sepu, Philippines.
I always just like to travel, just see new things.

You know, I'm out here in Tokyo right now.

So once you know the relay is done with i'm going to stay here for extra three to four days go sightseeing because i i i'm not one to go out and about when we're you know in the midst of the the meet and everything um and then after that you know i got to do some some stuff back home and then i'm trying to figure out if i want to just go do a cruise but yeah i i just love to travel and just see the world

karani james that's his name karani james oh yeah yeah

grenada hey he's still he's still running too yes uh went to the university alabama he won the uh NCA championships in the 400 meters. Turned pro LaShawn Merritt.

I think LaShawn won in 08. He won in 12.
Van Nieckhurt won in

16.

And Fan Stevie

from the Bahamas.

But

it's so hard. I mean, why is it so hard for 400 meters to repeat? Because if you go back and look at it, Michael Johnson is the only one to double up.

No other man has ever won back-to-back 400 meter titles.

Why is it so hard for men to repeat the 400 meters i mean you're you're seeing the times right now there's always somebody that's coming up coming into the fold somebody else that's running 43 seconds running 43 fives or whatever i mean you got these botswana kids like yeah chippy chippy just ran 43 five where did he come from

hey there's just a lot of talented people in the world and you know they just need the right coach and right program so these kids are finally finding the right uh circumstances the right system and all that and they're ready to go and they you know uh

I mean, that's why it's hard. I mean, even look at this 200.
I think this is the fastest 200 I've ever been in. It is.
You know, it is.

You know, when Bolt was running, what? It was him, maybe one other person, and everybody else is not running that fast. Now we got four, four or five guys are running under some 12.

I think this is the most time, the most, that we've had guys under, I think, what, 19.7? You had four guys that run

in one race.

Yeah, sub-19-7. We've never had that many runs.
And we had four. We had two guys on the 19, on the 19.6, and we had two guys on the 19.7.

So we had four guys that run sub-19.7, which is, which, like you said, unheard of. I mean, you get.

Go ahead.

Like I said,

shoes are getting better. Surface are getting better.
Training programs are getting better. You're finding the right talents.
Like, there's a lot of tricks.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you're getting the right, because... a lot of things have to go right.

I was talking, we had MJ on Melissa, and we were saying she had the right people in the race to go really fast.

If she gets a if she gets a plus-one tailwind, she's going sub-10-6 because she got Alfred in there, she got Tia Clayton, she got Tina Clayton, she got Talou Smith in there, so she has the people.

You need the competition, you need a track, and you need conditions. She had everything except the conditions.
If she get a plus one, she's going to sub 10-6.

Yeah, it's over with, yeah, yeah, because Melissa, Melissa,

Melissa, she's been putting in so much work. I mean, from seeing her last year into going to this year, yeah,

she got way stronger. Mechanics, everything has gotten so much better.

It's just awesome to see what she's done this year. And I definitely feel like, you know, she can repeat this.

You know, it is, it is hard to do it, but she's one of those athletes that can repeat and be a double champion again. Man, I want, man,

I mean, I wish it was 2027. I wish we had the worlds and then next year was the 27 because it's, I mean, to stay on, to stay on top is it's hard.

Cause like you said, you got, you got 200 countries and you got some 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old that we ain't even heard of yet. And all of a sudden, they pop up out of this.
That's why it's important.

You got to find the right people. I mean, for me, I invest so much in my body.
I mean, you got people, you know, even with Tobogo, you know, he, he was Olympic champ last year.

This year, he didn't come out with anything. And

there's just a lot of things that you need to do in order to stay on top. I mean, I got a physio, a massage therapist, chiropractor.
You know, I invest in in a lot of my body.

I mean, I got a cold plunge, Sana at my house, red light therapy. Like,

it's a lot of hard work. Yeah.
I mean, I'm looking at the women and the hurdles. Hell, where did kombucha come from? How did she shoot like that? She's always been there.

But, I mean, look, look at what we got. We got Russell.
We got Stark. We got all them.

Like, damn. Yeah.
I mean, the women's hurdles has always been tough. I mean, you go watch the Diamond League.
There's always three or four of them in that race. So they never get a break.

and and and it's hard we don't i don't know if we've ever had a repeat champion in in the women's hurdle because you get one and then the next year boom here comes somebody else and then here comes somebody else i mean you had joanna haze and you had don harper and then you here come up uh breonna rollins and then you get uh uh uh uh uh camacho i'm like

hey that's what makes track That's what makes track inciting because you don't know what's going to happen.

Except when it came to the 100 meters back from uh 2008, 12, and 16. We knew.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't who got a he show up.
Who got second? Who would get the silver?

You already know. You, you know, yeah, he's just looking like, all right, who's going to win?

Did you ever get a chance to race against both?

Nah, nah, I'm too young. Way too young.
So, what? When he retired, 2017, I didn't become a pro until 2019, 2020.

oh you'll be stupid yeah because i'm only i'm only 26 so oh you got some good years left you you about you about you about a year and a half away from prime so you should be real good by the time 28 roll around it's it's in la

hey that's perfect

it's la look and and and they ain't coming back last time they was in la was 1984

so

that

Home soil, we need some home cooking, Kenny. We need home cooking.

That's the perfect time.

Well, I'm expecting you. All I know is I'm going to be watching 2026 Ultimate Championships.
Are they going to be normal races like they normally would be?

You know, what is the Drake and the SAC?

So they're going to be, I would, I would say, yeah.

You know, Drake, Drake Relays, I actually like going to that, but usually when they have that, I'm always overseas running somewhere.

But yeah, they'll have that. Mount Sack, you know, still Diamond League, like all those things are going to be there.
I still,

I still think we have our nationals as well. So that will be going on.
So we have a full season of a lot of meets and everything else.

So like I said, time-wise, I'm just focused on just

I'm focused on just executing my race next year. And time goal wise, I got.

What you're looking at for 100 meters? What do you, what, what's, what's, what's your goal? What's your goal for the 100? What's your goal for the 200?

So how I felt this year and what I was doing at practice,

you know, I was talking to my coach. I definitely could have ran 9-7 mid or 9-7 low.

So I feel like next year, if coach wants to do it with me, I feel like I want to go after that American record for the 100 meters.

968? It's 69.

Well, you got to run 968.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, true.

Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Have you been under 9-8?

Yeah, I went 979

at our trials. Yeah.

Do you understand how

Kenny?

I understand it. But like I said.
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With the shape that I'm in right now and the practices that I've had, like leading up to the 100, and that's why it stung so much more for me when I didn't cross the finish line, even getting a medal because of my mishaps.

Right. I could have done something dangerous.
And now I got to wait two years, but I'm just like, hey, screw it.

You know, if coach wants to do this next year, you know, that's one of the goals that I want to hit because I definitely feel like I'm capable of doing it. I finally have a start.

That took about, what, four, four years? I mean, my teammates were kicking, teammates were kicking my ass for four years straight in the blocks.

It was so bad to where we were just like, hey, man, screw the blocks. Let me just do the workout right now and just roll y'all out.
Like, that's what I wanted

because they were embarrassing me. But, you know,

I feel great. And every race, even

running the 985 in the semifinals, like that's the easiest 985 I ever ran. You know, no tensing up or anything.
So I knew that the finals, I could have done something crazy.

And then obviously you guys saw what happened, had a late reaction. And then

I was like, well, damn, Kenny. Yeah.
That was too meter reaction.

Yeah.

Like I said, it just, I let it slip away. And that's why it stung so much more because I knew that I was in really good shape.
So now I got to wait.

You ran 979.

Where do you feel you can make up that kind of time? Because that's a lot of time.

From 979 to 968, that ain't no step that's more than a step for me where are you going to make up the time at the start the uh the transition

it's deceleration it's in the start so usually when in the in the hundred especially when i get up um you just stay relaxed and just hold on to what i build up so for me it's in the the first you know 20 30 40 meters if i can set up perfectly then i can get it

Man, you train with Christian. Can't you get that start? Can't you let that rub off on you?

It has actually. I i mean that's why my

that's why my that's why the start has actually been way better i mean the addition to having him also with the other teammates of mine um it just really helped like something just clicked this year and then hey i finally got a start and that just built confidence and you know going to grand slam as well just really helped uh i just really needed reps in the 100 because that was the biggest thing that i was lacking previous years like i was like hey can i get in 100 and it's like nah you're a 200 guy let's run it too so i'm like oh damn this is like my 10th 200 of the year let me get in 100.

so so this year really helped me out just to kind of understand the the mechanics you know i think also just being older and just maturing as an athlete actually understanding what my coach was trying to teach me the previous years everything just started just make sense became way easier and like i said i i'm confident that you know i can get around that area next year But that's, that's what coach wants to do, if that's what coach wants to do, because I know everything's about a plan.

You know, you could go crazy next year, but then you got, you know, another world championships in the Olympics. So, you know, if it's not part of his blueprint, then we'll see.

How different is the training from 100? I would assume that 100, you're doing 150s and twos. So for a two, are you doing 250s, threes? How different is the training?

It depends on the coach. For us in particular,

if we're training for a 200, you know, we do like 250s, 300s, 150s, 120s, a lot of speed work.

And then

he wants to make us hone on the technical side of the race because he's like, okay, you can build all this speed, but it don't mean anything if you're not technically sound.

So when it comes to the 100,

60, 80s,

60, 80s, 60, 80s. Just a lot of 60, 80s and then 120s.

But I mean, it's working. Every coach is different.

Another coach can say something completely different. But that's what we do.
A lot of sled training as well.

We do a lot of 1080 stuff.

We do a bunch of stuff.

Wow.

And weight training.

Plyos,

a lot of cleans, a lot of partial squats, a lot of box jumps. I mean, a lot of explosive stuff because you can't be explosive if you don't train explosive.
Yeah, it's like stuff like that.

I mean, you know,

I can't give you too much detail. It'll get mad.

I got you. I got you.
Man, Kenny, thanks for your time, man. Appreciate it.
Good luck tomorrow. Bro, it's been a while since we've been atop

the podium on the global stage and the relay, man.

Don't let us down, Kenny. Don't let us down.
Yeah, I said we got you.

We got a good squad. We've been practicing hard.

We'll get it done.

Hell, we'll be out here. Y'all hear that, Jamaicans? Do y'all hear that? Don't be bad.
Don't be bad. Cause we're about to get both of them.
Sweepstakes.

Men and women.

american flag i gotta find me american flag tomorrow because i'm gonna be flying it high

i'm just hey i'm gonna suffer but kenny i ain't gonna lie i've been i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a

i'm a worst winner they hate you they do but they do

i when y'all win this wage tomorrow i will give them something to hate all right I'm gonna count on it. Kenny Benderick, silver medalist in back-to-back Olympics and in the world championship.

Kenny, congratulations. Good luck, Tamara.
Come back and talk to us again soon, man. All right.
Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
Appreciate you, man. All right.
Bye.

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See, I felt pretty good i got two are right two was right so let me see what we got here jordan love more won 1.5 touchdown passes well lamar jackson threw for like 12 so he gonna have at least two more 0.5 more more more you like that you like that ocho because you cost me last time because you told me uh uh uh james cook was gonna have oh yeah he gonna have like 30 yards uh receiving and didn't

well i mean they didn't they didn't have to but most of the time they

tried to win money you talking about they ain't have to I mean no well we don't know what the game plan is but most of the time they he catches the ball out the backfield as well so I thought that that would have been a smart that would have been a smart play I'm I'm betting money

I'm trying to win money I'm trying to get I've tried to win 5900 that you owe me so I'm trying to do stuff to get that okay okay I see I see what you see

how about this here bijan robinson more than 110.5 rush yards and receiving yards combined against carolina absolutely come on now Okay. Elcho say go more.

Tyler Warren, 47 and a half receiving yards against Tennessee. That's the tight end from the Colts.

Hey, listen, the way Danny Dimes is dishing, man,

the way Danny Dimes is dishing,

what you think?

I'm going to, I, Lord, have mercy. Damn.

You ain't got no confidence in 17 over there with the horseshoe on the helmet?

Okay.

All right. All right.
I'm going to go. Okay.
Yeah. Jake Elliott, more than 1.5 field goal against the Raiders.

They're playing the Raiders?

No, that's the Rams.

Rams. Jake Elliott, that's the Eagles, right?

One point. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Absolutely. Eagle, two, two, two,

two, two, two.

I'm taking a staff slip.

But I tell you what, y'all better be right on. The only one I'm really concerned about is Tyler Warren, the 47 and a half receiving yards.
But

I got to go against you, Ocho. My gut tells me to go against you.
See?

One thing, one thing you never do. Never bet against the house.
Oh, you the house now? Yeah, I'm the house. Never bet against the house.
Well, when the house gonna pay some money, my money.

When the house gonna

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Ocho, Atlanta Falcons Cup kicker, Young Way Cool, after seven years with the team, signed new starter Parker Romo to a two-year deal.

And Arnold Cole, the fans have asked us to bring the viral clip with Coach Prime and the pronunciation of his name back. Y'all did be dirty, Ocho.
Hey, that was classic, bro.

Boy, y'all had me molding me.

Hey, listen.

Here's the clip.

I don't think they can hear it.

Young Hoku.

Keeps the five to four and went over the saint. What? What's her name?

Young Way.

Young Young way. Young way.
No, he ain't what you said, dog.

I say young Hoku. No, you can't.
That's not their name.

What's his name?

Who you talking about?

The kicker for the five. What's the name?

Young?

Young Way?

Don't try to take that, dog. You got to stop that.

But look, how it was. Hold on, how does it spell?

Hey, Joe. How to spell young? How they spelling young,

no, they they don't spell it young like we spell it. They, I think they spell it why

you. So, how do you know how to spell that and you know how to spell the other?

No, I know she

oh, she asked, spelled her. Oh, it's a young ho, coup.

No,

but you said, uh,

Okay, what is this spell? Y-O-U-N-G-H-O-E.

Who wrote that for you? Ain't nobody. There ain't nobody's name.
That's ain't nobody's name, dog. That is nobody's name.

That is nobody's real name.

And you gonna say it. That ain't nobody's name.
Oh, oh joe that that is that is not nobody's name spelled like that you know there ain't nobody name spelled like that

actually

that is his name that's the well it's that it's pronounced young way why you say young way but it's spelled

because no she put it on there as young way but if you go look at it it's y-o-n g-h-o-e

G-H-O-E don't make that sound. Go, go, go.

That makes it go.

There you go. See, man, you ain't not saying that.
You always say you got flashbacks. You got to stop that, though, man.

The Falcons defense of special teams make big plays and thrilling wins.

Two weeks ago,

I didn't know what you're talking about, dog.

No, you did. No, you did.

Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.

Edible.

Hey, that was classic. Man, now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q. And hey.

Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.

That's fun. We're going to be able to listen to 10 years tonight and still laugh the same way.
Y'all got jokes, huh? Yeah, that was fun. We'll fad facts can we show ocho skateboard video please

well that was from years ago

you saw that

you when that skateboard flew out from under your ass

i saw that hey it was so long ago but i can i can i could i can actually skate now i compete i compete i'd be i'd be at the uh at the skate park and all now

Astral said, Uncanocho, when y'all weren't partying or outside in college, what do you guys do? Love the show. Much love.
Well, I ain't party. I still party.

I went to one party in four years of college. I was in my room reading GQ, thinking about what I was going to be doing in four years, five years, what my NFL career is going to look like.

That's what I was doing. Doing homework.
Yeah. And honestly, for those that know me, those in the chat, if you follow me long enough, as long as I've been on social media, you know I don't party.

You know, I don't club. You know, I don't drink.
Gaming. High school, gaming.

College, I was gaming yeah i just yeah part of clubbing i don't drink so therefore i don't want to be around people that do drink because people that drink they like to have conversations on they be talking about stuff they'll start three conversations i'm like and i don't want to i ain't interested in none of them in none of it i just nah and then the music be too loud and then people step on your shoes and crowd i don't i don't i don't like that yeah I mean, obviously, you couldn't party during the season because you was in your room to have bread check on Friday and then Saturday game.

And so once the season was over, I mean, I got a girlfriend my junior year and senior year. So we went to the, once the season was over, we'd go to the movies.

You know, I had a little bread, Ocho, you know, I'd go off camper, you know, get in a little room. Yeah, you know, I was, you know, bro, make sure I was straight, but I was not a part of my man.

Timber Norwood Jr. said, Uncle I can't believe Ocho got an iPhone 17.
Hold on.

Ocho got a, got an iPhone 17, but won't pay you a $5,900, Uncle. Next time you're in Dallas for a bottle siding, I'm coming to see.
Ocho. I who got an iPhone 17? You did.
I didn't.

Let me see it, Ocho. Hold your phone up.
My phone, I don't got no

this man. Really?

Hey,

let me tell you something. I was eligible for an upgrade.
I still had the iPhone 12.

I had the iPhone 12. So I eligible.

Chat, I need y'all to tell chat.

What should I do to Ocho?

Chad, come on, chat. Y'all keep on saying, man,

man, let Ocho live. Ocho trying to get endorsement deal.
What that got to do with my $5,900? Listen, you're not listening to me. I done had the iPhone 12 for the longest.
So

I went to go pay my cell phone bill. And they told me about

me being able to, oh, you got to upgrade.

You haven't got a new phone in a long time. Like, well, you mean I ain't got to pay nothing? So they say, yeah, if you pay your phone bill,

you can switch out the phone. So I ain't really pay nothing.
Yeah, you pay something. You got to pay X about a dollar.
You can get an upgrade, but you got to pay for it. No,

I had the iPhone 12. I went from the 12 to the 17.
I didn't have to pay nothing. You got to pay something.
Yeah, I had to pay my phone bill.

My phone bill was like $120.

No, and you're going to have to pay $100 because they put the new upgrade in your phone bill. Nah, no, no, no, no.
That's not. Yeah, it's an extra $20, $30 a month.
That's okay, Ocho.

I mean, chat, chat,

chat, as you start a poll,

what should Unc do to Ocho after Ocho refuses to give him his money?

I'm not refusing. I'm just, I'm waiting for my money to get right.

Hold on. You done got LV track suit.
You done got a new iPhone. You done got all this new stuff.
You got a new house. You got all this stuff.

Me?

I got you. I got you, Uncle.
I got you. Serial P said, can we we get a shout out to Ocho's college quarterback, Jay Smith, and my daughter's Michigan State Spartans as we battle USC tonight at 11?

Go green.

Wait, that game ain't start yet?

Yeah, it should have started. Yeah, Jonathan Smith, that's my high school quarterback.

He coached? Yeah, he the head coach of Michigan State. Is he? Yeah.

Yeah.

He left Oregon State. Now he's at Michigan State.
Well, I didn't know that. Congratulations.
Oh, Joe, Tony's Gray, who goes O's and three? Who go O and three tomorrow? Who goes one and two?

On three. I guess you're looking at the Chiefs.

Wait, who's got?

They play the Giants. Who else hasn't won a game yet?

Oh, it can get ugly for the Chiefs, boy. Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.

You taking the Chiefs to go one and two or 0-3?

Hey, honestly, I mean, Mahomes gonna figure it out. I don't see them going to 0-3.
And if they go to 0-3, is it time to hit the panic button? I don't know.

Do you hit the panic button with a quarterback like Mahomes and what he's done in the past?

I don't know. I don't know.

That's a good one.

That might be the best game of the day, honestly. That might be the best game of the day.

Who else had won a game that we were suspecting to win a game? Goddamn Colts. The Colts play tomorrow? Yeah, they play Tennessee.
That's who I want to see.

I mean, Colts, Tennessee is really not an exciting game that the game that people want to see. I want to see if Goddamn Daniel Jones is for real.

Or is it a situation like Baker Mayfield or a situation like Sam Donald? You know, Sam Donnell goes to Minnesota all of a sudden, all world.

Baker Mayfield goes to Tampa Bay all of a sudden, all world. It's just the right situation.

I want to see if the Indianapolis Colts coach just happened to be the right situation for daniel jones and it might be that's what but guess guess who else had that exact situation who

anthony richardson

they said that exact situation yeah you're right and guess who you have that exact situation that uh jj mccarthy got that sam darno jj mccarthy

Jason said, what's up, Agonocho? My birthday is tomorrow. Can I get a shot? I also go Canes.
Yes, Jason, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Tween.
Enjoy. Spend it with family, friends, and loved ones.

Tell them you love them. Hopefully, they tell you they love you and you got something real nice.
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that shea by Laporte is so smooth. From now on, you should be known as the Kogyak King.
You're welcome. Thank you, Doc.
I appreciate the support.

You've been supporting Nightcap, Club Shea Shea, and Laporte. All things.
84. We appreciate that, Doc, because you've been one of the very first ones to follow Nightcap.

You've been a mod for a long time. And every time Ocho and I show up,

Atlanta, you were here in Atlanta. You was here

at New Orleans. You came to the very first one in Las Vegas.
So, Doc, Ocho and I, the Nightcap family, we can't thank you enough. We appreciate the support.

Ocho, yo.

Here's a skateboard video. This is Ocho on the skateboard.
Yeah, this old. I forgot what year this was, too, huh?

You see, I got, you see that? You see, I got my cigar in my mouth, too. See, I can skate.

No, you can't.

No, I mean, no, no. I mean, I mean, I can skate for real.
I mean, I can skate for real.

I was just trying to all I was trying to do some damn trick, and the cigar in my mouth is the reason why I failed. What that tricky

Ocho.

Gosh!

Party birthday hit.

i was good though i was good i was good though i was good but see the funny thing that's about that might be that might be six seven years old now now you know i ride in a skateboard down here in downtown downtown miami oh yo

six or seven years later it still hurt yeah i mean yeah yeah i'm i'm good i'm a i'm a real skater though i do everything

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I'm Unk.

He's Ocho. Ready for tomorrow night.
Tomorrow night. I'm ready for tomorrow night.
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