Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to talk the World Championships in Japan

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to discuss him winning the silver medal in the World Championships in Japan, Bleacher report releases their Franchise QB list, and the Atlanta Falcons cut Younghoe Koo and much more!

00:00 - Bleacher Report's Franchise QB List
5:35 - Kenny Bednarek
11:55 - Play or Fade
58:50 - Falcons cut kicker Younghoe Koo
55:50 - Q & Ayyyyyy

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Speaker 8 Oh, Joe, you're not going to like this. Bleacher Report just released the list saying only four NFL quarterbacks are true franchise quarterbacks.
Number one, Mahome Boy. Number two, Josh Allen.

Speaker 8 Number three, Lamar Jackson. Number four, Matthew Stafford.
They said the following players just missed the cut. Joe Burrow,

Speaker 8 for the most, Joe Burrow already finds himself among the top tier. However, he needs to be on the field to truly earn that designation.

Speaker 8 Multiple injuries throughout the years have blunted this standing despite one of the game's best and most efficient passers.

Speaker 8 Jalen Hurts, when nitpicking over the actual the best game important position, he's still difficult to envision Hurts shouldering the entire Eagles offense with a less talented rounding and still being as successful.

Speaker 8 Jordan Love has as long as he minimized turnovers and helped push the young receivers targets found on the Packers roster, the fifth-year quarterback has a chance to be counted among the league's best.

Speaker 8 Jaden Daniels, Daniels has quite a good start to a sophomore campaign. Daniels has every tool to be successful, to succeed.
He just needs to, on a consistent basis.

Speaker 8 Baker Mayfield, his competitiveness and enthusiasm are infectious, though.

Speaker 8 In the 29th, 2018, the number one overall pick does benefit from an awesome wide receiver core and good offensive line when healthy.

Speaker 8 He doesn't, he also doesn't have quite the same playmaking capabilities as others did that made the list. Ocho,

Speaker 8 they say they got four. They got my homeboy, Josh Allen, Lamar, Matthew Stafford.
They say the next tier was Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurst, Jordan Love, Jane Daniels, and Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 8 You got a problem with that four.

Speaker 9 I don't have a problem with that four, but the whole point of the list was teams that have franchise quarterbacks, i thought right

Speaker 9 fruit yes yeah well um that they they can't they can't choose the tiers based on franchise quarterbacks because we're not talking about who's the best we're just talking about teams that have franchise quarterbacks the babies have a franchise quarterback whether he gets hurt or not

Speaker 8 well you got to be on the field

Speaker 8 come oh come on don't do that because but that's what i'm saying that's that's that's that's why they docked him oh okay okay because think about oh joe first year what did he do ac first year ACL.

Speaker 8 Right, right.

Speaker 8 What, the third year, it was, what, was his hand or his shoulder? Yeah, I think it was. His wrist.
His wrist.

Speaker 8 Remember his wrist?

Speaker 8 Now, it's,

Speaker 8 hold on, what is it now?

Speaker 8 What did he hurt now?

Speaker 9 Remember his toe, his toe.

Speaker 8 His toe, yeah, turf toe.

Speaker 8 So there's a possibility, Ocho,

Speaker 8 he could miss.

Speaker 9 He coming back in December. He'll be back in December.

Speaker 8 That's if everything goes perfect.

Speaker 9 Oh, it's definitely going well. It's going to go well.

Speaker 9 I'm talking about he's going to be fine, especially with

Speaker 9 technology and

Speaker 8 stuff.

Speaker 8 But brother Jake Browning, you're going to see tomorrow.

Speaker 9 I don't mean this. I'm going to speak things into existence.
You know, my grandma always told me, anything you want, all you have to do is speak it into existence.

Speaker 9 Boy, we're going to beat the breaks off Minnesota, man. We finna beat the breaks off Minnesota and Carson Wentz, huh? But now back to the topic of hand.

Speaker 9 There's a small selection of quarterbacks, teams that have franchise quarterbacks. Justin Herbert is a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 9 Jalen Hurst is a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 9 They're going on specifics based on the way they win as Knox. Oh, because he doesn't pass well, because they didn't have a lot.
No, that has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 9 There are teams that have quarterbacks that you can build around. Jaden Daniels, C.J.
Stroud, these are franchise-altering quarterbacks.

Speaker 9 For the next 10 years, these teams don't have to do anything except build around those quarterbacks.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 9 I agree with the four, but there are others that belong in that category and if if we talk about the best quarterbacks then you could put them in tiers uh you can you can do that you could nitpick you know when we when we talk about tiers of who's better but the topic was what teams have franchise quarterbacks and those are quarterbacks that you don't have to touch or be worried about and just have to build around them

Speaker 8 I think that plus you got to look at a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 8 if I took Jalen Hurts and I gave him Patrick Mahomes offense,

Speaker 8 could he get that team to a Super Bowl? Could he do what he did in Philly? Ooh, that's different.

Speaker 9 That's different. I like that you.

Speaker 8 Because that's what they're saying. When they look at a franchise quarterback, they said that if it's kind of like the Joe situation, if we remove the hedge,

Speaker 8 which is the greatness of that offensive line, if we remove that running game, we took A.J. Bryan, we took Devontae.
And let's just say we gave you Kansas City's offense. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Let's just say we gave you Buffalo's offense.

Speaker 8 Could you still be, could you still get that team to the playoffs? Could you still go win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 I see. I like that you did that.
Now, when you did that, that changes the whole dynamic. That changes everything because you can put Mahomes on any team and he'll have success.

Speaker 9 You can put Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 8 So what would Mahomes look like

Speaker 8 with Philly's offensive line, that running game, and those receivers?

Speaker 9 That wouldn't be fair.

Speaker 8 Or Or you put Josh F. Josh Allen.
Put Josh Allen in that to put Josh Allen in that system. Put Lamar Jackson in it.

Speaker 8 Put Lamar in there. Okay.
If I turn around, if I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in Lamar's system, it's going to be the same thing. If I put Josh, if I took Matthew Stafford and put him in Philly.

Speaker 8 Hey,

Speaker 9 listen, and you got to think, everybody you mentioned, you talk about gunslingers. Yes.

Speaker 9 Just having the addition of a running back in the offensive line like that, if you put any of those quarterbacks in Philly, it's almost unfair right it's almost unfair when you think about it

Speaker 8 so i look i understand because i think the thing is ocho you're like oh he's really good yeah there's always only been like like franchise altering yeah there's only been a handful of them in in every in in the 80s you go back you go back look at the 90s you go back you look at the 2000s you look at the 10s and

Speaker 8 There's only been a handful of them. There's never been 10 franchise quarterbacks.
We just now, now, anybody that have a good, a good year, they're a franchise quarterback now.

Speaker 8 Where we used to make guys play three, four good years before we bestowed that title on them. That's the way we used to be, Ocho, with any position, not just the quarterback.

Speaker 8 Bro, you couldn't just go to the Pro Bowl and then all of a sudden say, oh, I'm a top flight wide receiver or X, Y, and Z. Oh, Ocho, we got a very special guest joining us today.

Speaker 8 Hey, this guy won the silver medal in the 20 meters in Tokyo, at the world

Speaker 8 in Tokyo, the Olympic game, in 2024, back again. He won the silver medal again.
And the world championships. In Eugene, in 24, he won the silver medal in the 200.

Speaker 8 In Tokyo, just the other day, he won the silver medal in the 200 meters.

Speaker 8 At some point in time, he says, I keep knocking on the door.

Speaker 8 I'm going to be the first one to get in the house. Kenny.
Your fourth championship, you get silver. How difficult? Because I know you were in great condition.
You dropped down to the 100.

Speaker 8 Everything was perfect. You got great endurance.
You got great speed. You built that.
I know you please. Look, you got on the podium.
And at the end of the day, yay, I podium.

Speaker 8 But the goal,

Speaker 8 what you got to do to get the goal, Kenny?

Speaker 8 Man,

Speaker 8 I just got to work on the small little things. I mean, like you said before, I'm in really good shape.
I have the endurance. I got the speed.
I got everything.

Speaker 8 I just got to figure out how to get that last 10 meters because that's where it seems like it's been, you know, just getting away from me. Right there, right there.
You're right there.

Speaker 8 Hey, this last race, kid, I thought, I said, oh, damn, look at Kenny. Hey, he pulled up on you.
You like, okay, you pulled ahead. And like you said, it was that last 10 meters.

Speaker 8 I was like, damn, Kenny. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would say for this championship, this was the best second half I ever had in a while.

Speaker 8 Cause usually I always tend to get in the lead and I kind of give it away. But yeah, as soon as LaVelle kind of got right next to me, it was just, hey, make sure not to panic.

Speaker 8 I already know that i'm in good shape and just keep on going and uh you know doing that from lane eight that's all i can ask for so i i mean yeah it's like a little bittersweet moment right now for me because i've always been knocking on that door but you know eventually i'm gonna get it because every single year you're gonna kick the door in huh

Speaker 8 i i'm gonna i'm gonna put my foot in that door

Speaker 9 hey first off yeah first off i want to say congratulations and i i want you to take me through what it's like that moment before you get in the blocks what's that feeling like crowd is it is it quiet quiet or do you hear the noise?

Speaker 9 Do you have butterflies? Are you nervous? I mean, I'm curious what that feeling is like before that gun goes off for you.

Speaker 8 I feel like younger me, the nerves are really there, but now, you know, I'm a vet now and I've been here for a very long time. Uh, but yeah,

Speaker 8 I just embrace the moment. I mean, the crowd doesn't get too big for me.
You know, I literally stare at the crowd right before the race and like, okay, it's go time.

Speaker 8 And as soon as you know, they say set, you know, everything is ready to go. I'm in that flow state.
So just trying to execute my race and go. Okay, okay.
I like it.

Speaker 8 Kenny, man, all I want to know is, man, look, we got all these fast 100-meter guys.

Speaker 8 Can we get the baton around the track? That's all I want to know, Kenny.

Speaker 8 Kenny, can we get, can't we, look, I mean, because far too many times on the global stage, Kenny, we got the fastest men, but somehow the baton end up on the track or we get out of our passing lanes.

Speaker 8 Can we get it around the track tomorrow? Hey, we for sure going to do it. I mean, what? We got eight more hours to go, so I'm getting ready for that.

Speaker 8 But we've been practicing hard and we're ready to go. I mean, like you said before,

Speaker 8 we always had the foot speed, but it's more so the precision of the baton and just making sure to do our job, man. We're going to get the job done this time.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Let me see if I get this right. Okay.
Christian Coleman's going to start it off. He's the greatest starter in American history.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Are you still in second leg or did they move you to third? I think I'm still in second. I mean, that's where I feel like I'm best utilized.
And, you know, I'm going to make sure to do my job.

Speaker 8 So we're going to handle our business when it comes to that. Obviously, Noah's going to be on the anchor.
And

Speaker 8 when he's been anchor, we have yet to lose.

Speaker 8 So who goes third? I think Courtney Lindsey, my training partner. So, yeah, I think, you know, the good thing about this relay squad is, you know, Christian's my teammate, Courtney's my teammate.

Speaker 8 So already, we already have that chemistry. So I think.
Oh, that's okay. Okay.
Okay. Just keep it close.
Just keep it close.

Speaker 8 You know, Canada, they powder their chairs. The grasp, he powdered his chair.
He doing all this. I don't want to see none of that.
I don't want to see none of that.

Speaker 8 I don't want to see none of that tomorrow. Like I said, we're going to handle business.
I mean, Canada, you know, they

Speaker 8 always kind of

Speaker 8 get things right. I mean,

Speaker 8 I want to say they're sneaky, but I mean, they've been using the same squad for the last, what, eight years or something like that? So they got those handoffs down.

Speaker 8 So we just got to make sure to do our job. When we do that, then we're good.

Speaker 8 You're one of the few guys that's ever been able to run, you know, sub-20.

Speaker 8 You know, you run sub-45.

Speaker 8 It was really shaky. It was really shaky for the 400 meters.
We had to run against, I think it was the Kenyans or somebody. Just two people, just two teams.

Speaker 8 And it was basically whoever finished first.

Speaker 8 I saw the Botswana team.

Speaker 8 And they looking good.

Speaker 8 I'm scared.

Speaker 8 I ain't going to lie to you, Kenny.

Speaker 8 Kenny, I'm scared. They go 1-3-5, and they didn't even have Tobogo.
If they bring Tobogo, they ran 257 without Tobogo.

Speaker 8 I'm nervous, Kenny. I'm like a a long-tailed dog on a porch full of rocket chairs i'm nervous like that kenny

Speaker 8 hey i mean i trust that they're gonna handle their business um it's gonna i mean last year was a very close race and we're it's gonna be wire to wire for this one too so they just gotta make sure to do their job and yo we're gonna see who finished first can we get they're gonna let vern they're gonna let the old man i mean because y'all know vern is a game they call it the old vern vern is a gamer vern is a gamer

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I haven't spoken to the coaches.

Speaker 8 I don't really know what team they're going to put up but uh you know they're going to put the best players down and like i said it's going to be wire to wire so it's going to be a blast to watch that race yeah only thing i'm certain of is uh rod running anchor leg

Speaker 8 he said something very interesting yesterday i don't know if you heard him did you hear what he said he's not going to run very many hurdles he's looking at i'm coming down to the four and the two oh he said that that's your tarot told yeah that's what rod said now if it's a lie he told it man he don't want to come he don't want to come down to the two because we got too many people he says i'm coming i said i'm not going to run as many hurdle races.

Speaker 8 I'm doing four and the two. That's what he's saying.
He can step into the lines then, but he ain't gonna do anything there. Oh,

Speaker 8 hey, now you know, hey, now I'm gonna broach this. That guess what you said.
I'm gonna say, Rock, we had Kent Kung Fu on, and he said, You can come to the lines then if you want to.

Speaker 8 He said, You okay, but it ain't nothing popping down here. Now, you might as well go ahead and stay with the hurdles, deal with Dos Santos, deal with Warholm, deal with Samba.

Speaker 8 Don't come fooling with me, me and no, don't do that. Hey, yeah, don't do that.

Speaker 8 You can stick with the four, but don't come down to that too. It ain't sweet.

Speaker 9 Hey, Kenny, outside of track, do you, I mean, I know you guys are busy. Obviously, when you're locked in, when you're in season, what do you like to do outside of track? Do you have any hobbies?

Speaker 9 Do you have anything else that you're passionate about that you'd like to spend your time?

Speaker 8 time doing i like to do anything that just requires me to be outdoors uh it can be simple things just like ATV, just sitting by a bonfire, being with friends and family.

Speaker 8 I like skiing, playing basketball. I like playing video games.
Oh,

Speaker 8 video games.

Speaker 8 What'd you play? I've been playing Madden, 2K every now and then. Okay.

Speaker 8 Well, you play Madden?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I'm the best Madden player in the world. What you mean, do I play Madden?

Speaker 8 Man, I probably could beat you right now.

Speaker 8 Probably not even that good.

Speaker 8 Can I tell you something real quick?

Speaker 8 What?

Speaker 9 Kenny, you can't even beat me in the 200 if we race, Kenny.

Speaker 8 What'd you say?

Speaker 8 Hey, you better bring your spikes right now.

Speaker 9 Hey, my spikes right here in the trunk.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you better put those on right now. I'll see you soon.

Speaker 9 Okay, let me know. Whenever you're in Miami.
Matter of fact, I can come to you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, come to me. Okay, no problem.

Speaker 9 We can do that. We can film the game.

Speaker 8 You can brought what, like 20, 22, 23 seconds? 23. Eight, nine.

Speaker 8 Kenny, you know what I ran at what I ran in high school? What'd you run at high school? 19-2.

Speaker 8 yeah right

Speaker 8 yeah i ran 19-2 in high school hey another thing that i was gonna say i also um

Speaker 8 i also started picking up some kung fu stuffs uh you know because my whole thing is kung fu kenny so this this year this year i started doing a little bit of that uh but i had to be careful because obviously you know being a sprinter and everything right there's a lot of things that i can do can't do but but you skiing you ain't thinking about you you being a sprinter you skiing you riding atvs you doing a lot of stuff that is really that's really detrimental to somebody that

Speaker 8 needs their legs. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 My girlfriend, Lydia, she'd be telling me not to do these things, but I'm like, bro,

Speaker 8 I need to do something to let my brain kind of be at ease because, you know, I do tech as a, as a job. I used, you know, it used to be just for love and now it's a job.

Speaker 8 So I got to do something outside to go back to be, okay, I can do what I can do again.

Speaker 8 But yeah, it's just hard to, you know, figure out what exactly I want to do outside. So I'll do things I'm really not supposed to do every now and then, but, you know, just one time.

Speaker 8 There's nothing wrong with one time.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Look, we saw the net, we saw the USAs and we saw the 200. And you said, hey, this is, hey, this is going to be the day that I get it done.
And we thought, hey, you were so close. And then

Speaker 8 Noah kind of nipped you at the tape and then kind of gave you a shove.

Speaker 8 So what happened?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you shoved him.

Speaker 8 So I'm just trying to, I'm trying to figure out what happened.

Speaker 8 We just had a little beef that was kind of going on.

Speaker 8 And uh did it start before the race or do it started after he like he he looked at you like some kind of he looked at you sideways it started before the race so then you know once you know we crossed the finish line i saw that you know i gave him that that shove and you know i we both could have handled the situation a little bit different um we both have mutual respect for each other but you know

Speaker 8 i don't i don't i don't play when it comes to stuff like that right uh and all i can say is that you know every single time i step on track you know i i want to whoop his ass

Speaker 8 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 8 He'll stop looking at you. If you beat him, Kenny, you got to beat him.
Yeah, I know. Like I said, he's been getting the better than me for years.

Speaker 8 So like I said, I'm just trying to improve myself every single time I step on the track, every single year. I've been getting better, stronger, faster.
And that time is coming soon.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And Kenny, there's really nothing wrong with a little friendly competition. Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good for the sport. I mean, the fact that every, I mean, when I did it, I didn't think anything of it.

Speaker 8 And then, you know, it was all over the news i was like oh okay i guess

Speaker 8 you didn't think nothing of it you shot a man in the back and y'all running you ain't think nothing of it

Speaker 8 hey like i said it was for the moment uh but like i said we we we discussed about it and you know we we on the same page and we got that mutual respect for each other but yeah it's definitely good for a sport we need healthy rivalries rivalries right that so every single time we you know i like i said i stepped down in the hundred um you know i didn't do what i wanted to do when it came to the finals but you know i was in really good shape to do something crazy in that hundred finals um so you know i'm just excited for the next year's you know oh yeah

Speaker 8 there are the rumors swirling that that burner account track spice that that might be you nah that's not me hey all i can say about that is that me my social media team we don't we don't handle that account at all i mean when it comes to that that's just noise and i just try to ignore that i mean that's all drama For me, I just focus on on track.

Speaker 8 And, you know, people are going to say what they're going to say. They're going to believe me whether they believe me or not.
It doesn't really matter to me. Let me ask you something.

Speaker 8 You witnessed this. You saw Sid.

Speaker 8 One year.

Speaker 8 She took the 400 meters. She said, you know what?

Speaker 8 I'm going to set the hurdles aside. And I'm just going to focus my attention on the 400.
And we see in one year, not only.

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Speaker 8 Did she win the USA's? She goes on the global stage and runs the second fastest time that's ever been run. A lot of people like, I mean, think about how many women have run

Speaker 8 40. They're like, no, nobody's going to do it.
I didn't think I was going to see a woman be able to, because really, when you think about it, no one has really come close.

Speaker 8 i mean think about nobody nobody has come within a half a second

Speaker 8 of coke's record until sid

Speaker 8 when she ran 48 29 i said well knowing that who's in this race because you know kenny in order to get a fast time or world record or championship records you need two things you need competition in the race and you need conditions Now, she didn't get the conditions, but she got Paulino and she got Nasser.

Speaker 8 And when she got them, she knew.

Speaker 8 Because when Paulino got lane eight,

Speaker 8 she knew. And Pauline did something she normally never, she doesn't normally go out like that.
NASA is always going to take it out.

Speaker 8 So if I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, Bobby Kersey probably told her, NASA's going to take it out. Attach yourself to NASA.
Let her pull you to Paulino. You're strong enough.

Speaker 8 in the last 100 to bring it home. When you saw her run, when you saw her get out and she was smooth and you saw that time, what went through your mind when you saw 47 78

Speaker 8 i wasn't surprised i mean after after seeing sydney do what she did uh in the previous race i was just like world record i think she can hit it uh wow i mean sydney sydney sydney's a gamer like she's a dog i mean you know we've seen what she's done in the hurdles i wasn't sure exactly what she was going to do when she came down to the four you know the first race she ran i was like okay that looked pretty good but yeah she's a hard worker and i mean yeah that's insane um yeah i don't know what she's gonna do after this year but i feel like hey you you should just go after that world record you're so close you might as well just you might as well just go after it i mean the hurdles right now for her just you know that's her main event and it's easy for her so you know just test yourself what she did this year and just try to get that world record next year i think i think the thing what she really wants to do kenny she wants to take that she wants to take the hurdles under 50

Speaker 8 because she knows that she said she puts that record under 50 that record might be like flow joe 100 meters it might be like flow joe's 200 meters

Speaker 8 that's what she want it might be like coke's 400 meter record. Because something that, like, when you think about it, ain't, I mean, you can say, well, what you call me, 1050, 1054.

Speaker 8 Elaine Thompson ran 1054, Flojo ran 1049.

Speaker 8 Like, ah.

Speaker 8 I mean, she had everything perfect. I mean, wasn't nobody close to Flojo when she was running those times.

Speaker 8 But you really, you really think, you think in the next year, because I think Bobby is positioning her, he's going to position the committee. We'll do the 4-4 because that's all there is left.

Speaker 8 Ain't really nothing nothing left she runs the hurdle can't nobody beat her unless she hits a hurdle and falls down yeah but she's right

Speaker 8 but as far as just like okay there's a competition somebody line up femka bowl can't see her because femka doesn't have the foot speed speed i understand femka she's unbelievable and she can beat everybody else but it's kind of like being in an era with you saying there were some fast guys in you say era it just weren't you saying there's some great hurdlers in sydney's era that's just not sydney yeah she's just she's she's just a different breed i mean like i said next year's uh next year's an off year we got ultimate championships so i don't know what's uh in store for her but i mean like i said she she definitely can just go after that whenever she wants to so

Speaker 8 tell me tell me what the ultimate championships is so is that just the usas because the worlds like every odd year so we had 25 we had the worlds we're gonna have the worlds again in 27 and then you got the olympics in 28.

Speaker 8 so as an off year in 26 what's the ultimate championships explain that to us uh so the ultimate championships is just some like new event that world Athletics is, you know, having in September.

Speaker 8 Instead of,

Speaker 8 it's kind of similar, like, world championships, but it's not, it's not exactly the same thing. Cause, you know, usually you bring every country that qualified with the standard and all that.

Speaker 8 Uh, world, uh, the ultimate championship is like the best of the best. So, I think you either go off a ranking or, you know, what you've done previously.

Speaker 8 Uh, and it's only two races, so semifinals and finals. So, it's what? Yeah, and the prize.
You can have something in the tank.

Speaker 8 You have something left in the tank, you ain't got to go all these four rounds.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean honestly me personally i was like i i i wasn't sure uh if i wanted to do it for the next year but then after what happened this year i was like yeah i'm definitely motivated to go there get that price purse because the price purse i think is like a 150k or 100k at least which is something that you know for a winner to win yeah

Speaker 8 damn i might start training for something

Speaker 8 hey

Speaker 9 matter of fact matter of fact we can we can really solidify and and kind of already put that money already in your pocket if you allow me to be a training partner.

Speaker 9 Because if you allow me to train on the side of you,

Speaker 9 I'm going to get you where you need to be.

Speaker 8 Man, you got to race me first before you're trying to be my training partner.

Speaker 8 You want to race? You got to race me first if you want to be my training partner.

Speaker 9 But listen, I don't want to take your confidence away because that's what's going to happen if we race.

Speaker 9 So I'd rather you just allow me to come into camp and be your training partner. I could be like the master.

Speaker 8 I'll allow you to come into the camp and be my training partner. Right.

Speaker 8 First of all, you got to go through my coach, Dennis Mitchell. He's, I don't know.

Speaker 8 Hey, hey, hold on.

Speaker 9 I beat Dennis running back in the day, so he really got no say-so.

Speaker 8 Hey,

Speaker 8 y'all got a nice little group. Y'all got a nice little group down there.
Oh, we got y'all training. Gage, where y'all train out of Gaylord? Orlando? No, no, no.
We're pretty much in Orlando. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Y'all got Melissa Jefferson, TT, y'all got Kayla. Shakari.
Shakari. Yeah.
Yeah. We got Coleman, Meek,

Speaker 8 Aaron Brown. We got B Stew.

Speaker 8 We got a bunch of people. We got Kyrie as well, Courtney Lindsay.
I mean, every Brendan Hicklin, like every freaking, every freaking practice day, it just seems like it's a race. It's intense.

Speaker 8 I mean, you know, for me in particular, having those guys in the group has really helped me perform at a higher level. Well, damn, y'all.
So basically,

Speaker 8 the women's team is Team Dennis Mitchell because everybody that's on the damn relay running Dennis Mitchell. And y'all got three or four guys that owned him yet.

Speaker 8 Hey, like I said, that's a hard work that we all put in. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 If y'all don't come away with that gold medal, I'm going to feel some type of way. Hey, I told you, we got it.
We got it.

Speaker 8 And I'd be on here talking, hey, Kenny, I don't know if you be seeing it, but I'll be on here talking crazy to the Jamaicans. And they'd be feeling some type of way.

Speaker 8 They be feeling some type of way because they ain't got you saying no more. And it ain't no short thing.
We want the gold and the silver in the 100 meters. I say, we reprayed y'all.
We got to go.

Speaker 8 And we got the fastest woman in the world. Can't nobody see MJ.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And we got the gold and the silver and guess what we was about to spank y'all in the relay but we ain't got to worry about that now

Speaker 8 we about to put something on you in the relay but we got something for you yeah when you

Speaker 8 when you say you're in shape what's an idea what's an ideal weight for you kenny what do you what are you wearing 60 65

Speaker 8 oh hell no i weigh way more than that i'm 190 right now i'm 190.

Speaker 8 What? Okay. Yeah, so you're not, you're not the first person that's ever underestimated my weight.
I had had a teammate of mine a couple of years ago. He's like, what are you, 160?

Speaker 8 I said, no, I'm 185. And he's like, no way.
I just think most of my, I have a lot of muscle. And I have, you've probably seen photos of me.
Like, I don't have that much fat on me.

Speaker 8 I think most of my muscle is in my legs. I don't know.
But yeah, I weigh 190, 192. I think

Speaker 8 last year was the heaviest I've ran at. And that's just gave me way more power.
Well, see, I was thinking like, I was thinking like

Speaker 8 Fred. I was thinking Fred Curly because he's so tall that he's about 190.
But I was like, once I was like somewhere between 60 and 70 for you, I didn't, I would have never guessed you were that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so what, when I came into the group originally in 2020, 2019, I was like 180 and I, you know, I was a 4'2 guy, but every single year, like, I've been getting faster and stronger.

Speaker 8 And yeah, I just, I guess was just, you know, getting older too, just gained a lot more muscle. The muscle maturity.
And it just makes it, and honestly, it makes everything feel so much easier, too.

Speaker 8 I mean, sprinkling mechanics and all that from the block starts to everything, like, it feels so much easier.

Speaker 8 How tall are you? Uh, 6'2.

Speaker 8 Okay, okay, okay. Damn, yeah,

Speaker 8 and that's another thing. I mean, I, when I, when I, you know, looking at you on television, you know, television, television normally adds size.
But I'm like,

Speaker 8 I would have never, I would have never guessed you are as big as you are as far as six to 190 pounds. That's big for a 100-meter sprinter.

Speaker 8 You think so?

Speaker 8 Yes. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 I guess I'm different. Yeah.
I would, I was thinking, like, I mean,

Speaker 8 like, coleman what's coleman

Speaker 8 like height wise or weight wise well height wise he can't be no more than five six five seven okay

Speaker 8 i give

Speaker 8 on a good day i give him eight but i'm thinking five seven i don't know how much he weighs i would say maybe around like 160 170. yeah

Speaker 8 that would make sense yeah that's why but you feel but you feel but you feel the you like you you mentioned when you got when you got the team mitch uh you 180 but you feel the extra 10 pounds of muscle gave you the power to thrust out of the blocks and it gave you the

Speaker 8 the top to be able to hold it in the 200 because you were 200 special and a lot of times we see this 200 specialist we saw uh uh um

Speaker 8 uh you saying who's a 200 meter specialist drop down

Speaker 8 I think it was, I think also with me running the four, I pretty much ran the four my whole life. And then, you know, I ran 44-7 in college and then I went to Dennis' group.

Speaker 8 And then after that, he made me run the two the one pretty much permanently um i think that was just the endurance was just instilled in my body you know just growing up running long distance

Speaker 8 i also used to run cross country as well used to run some

Speaker 8 yeah so i ran cross country in elementary all the way to what sixth seventh grade so i think once it got a little bit upper up and distance i was like yeah this ain't for me you know so i i just i just went into football and then just did track uh but i think just doing that in my development stages that just really helped me bring that endurance and just made everything easier.

Speaker 8 So yeah, I would say 190, 190, 192. If I go any higher, then maybe I'll be a little too heavy.
But right now, everything feels easy.

Speaker 8 You had a very unconventional route to where you became. You went to a community college.

Speaker 8 You didn't go to Texas or Tennessee or one of these powerhouse LSU, Texas AM. That's not the route that you took.
How were you able to stay focused taking this route?

Speaker 8 Because, you know, most of the guys that, you know and you didn't turn pro you didn't turn pro right out of high school

Speaker 8 i mean i wasn't i honestly i wasn't that fast in high school but uh

Speaker 8 i think just my mom you know just you know i was i'm adopted as well so you know being a young kid being adopted at four uh you know just how to work just to be where i was um

Speaker 8 I mean, she instilled good values in me every single day. I mean, she's, she was a single mother adopting four kids.
Like, she, she was kind of the blueprint for me just to work hard every single day.

Speaker 8 And, uh,

Speaker 8 you know, I was recruited by all the top schools at one point, but I was one of those kids where I was kind of like, oh, I don't really care about school. Let me just have fun and do sports.

Speaker 8 Didn't realize, didn't realize that, you know, hey, GPA matters when the schools want to come after you. I mean, I think that was the question where junior year, they're like, what's your GPA?

Speaker 8 I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 8 So then, you know, I had to be.

Speaker 8 It wasn't my 40s time.

Speaker 8 You said, what was your 40 time?

Speaker 8 No, yours wasn't your 40 time because you had to afford 2GP.

Speaker 8 You'd have been Gucci. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So, you know, I had to go for a junior college in the middle of Iowa called Indian Hills. And, you know, the program,

Speaker 8 brand new program.

Speaker 8 Why you got a Walmart City to go run track? How you go to Iowa to run track? I didn't think about stuff like that. I mean, I'm from Wisconsin, so I've already ran in the cold.

Speaker 8 Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Touch,

Speaker 8 shit. yeah, yeah.
So, you know, I went to there for a year, did my thing, went pro.

Speaker 8 And yeah, I mean, just being from an adopted kid, going into foster care, like my whole life, the route just to get here was unconventional.

Speaker 8 And, you know, I give thanks to my mom on why I was able to, you know, be here where I am today and accomplish my dreams. That's dope.
So when it finally does happen, you beat Noah in the 200.

Speaker 8 I mean, what are you going to do to celebrate? You're going to have a beer? You're going to have a piece of cake?

Speaker 8 I mean, what, what's going to, because, I mean, that's, I mean, have you ever beat Noah in the two?

Speaker 8 I mean, I have, but I, it's the fact of, hey, I beat him while getting silver and somebody else got me, you know?

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, you beat him at the liberty. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 He got the bronze.

Speaker 8 It's not really just about beating him. It's just about getting that gold medal because, you know, my first year at the Olympics in 2021, here at Tokyo,

Speaker 8 you know, I beat, I beat him, but then Andre deGrasse got me. So it's the same with this, you know, it's the same with Paris.
Beat him, but then Tobogo got me, you know?

Speaker 8 And like I said, that's why it's just kind of frustrating because I'm not focusing on just him.

Speaker 8 I'm focusing on just that gold medal because I know what I can do, but it always seems like there's something. And

Speaker 8 like I said, running from lane eight, not saying it's an excuse, it's just, it's just tough because you're on the island.

Speaker 8 You know, you got one person ahead of you, and you just got to make sure to be mentally strong and just think about yourself.

Speaker 8 You can't think about nobody else because you're out there running by yourself you're running blind yeah pretty much but i mean you look at uh

Speaker 8 wave van niekert when he run went into in rio he's in the farthest lane and he knows he has uh uh lashawn merit and he had what's the guy from uh

Speaker 8 i remember watching that i don't remember his name though i just remember

Speaker 8 he went from alabama uh oh my goodness i can't think of his name but anyway he knew they were back there and he knew those guys were sub 44 guys both had already won a gold medal in the 400

Speaker 8 and he just took he was the last qualifier and he just took off and he ran 40 40

Speaker 8 i had no idea i remember watching that when i was a kid i just like oh he's gonna burn out and he just kept running i said oh my gosh that was the thing he did he didn't burn out Yeah, he just kept going.

Speaker 8 And I mean, honestly, that's the mentality I have when I get a lane draw like eight. I'm just like, hey, I just got to go all gas and just execute my race and see what happens.
No breaks.

Speaker 8 So after the after the

Speaker 8 championships, how much time do you take off? Are you done for the rest of the year and just start? Because I don't think you do the indoor season. So now, okay, so now, when will you start back?

Speaker 8 Okay, you're not going to let yourself say you, you say ideal shape is somewhere between 190 and 192. Well, if you're not working out, you might get up to 195, maybe even 200.
How soon will you start?

Speaker 8 I don't even do do that you you don't i don't gain weight i don't gain weight like that i usually so usually we have what a month and a half to two months depending on what coach wants right sometimes i'll maybe take uh a week or two more

Speaker 8 but uh

Speaker 8 what i do you know I do a lot of preventative stuff. So, you know, I give myself a week or two just to kind of do whatever I want to do.
And then after that, I'm in the gym or with my physio,

Speaker 8 you know, just working on like strengthening small ligaments here and there because, you know, the body's always compensating, especially when we're redlining every single time for the whole year.

Speaker 8 For vacation, you know, I like to go to Thailand like last year or two years ago, I went to Sepu, Philippines. I always just like to travel, just see new things.

Speaker 8 You know, I'm out here in Tokyo right now.

Speaker 8 So once, you know, the relay is done with, I'm going to stay here for an extra three to four days, go sightseeing because I'm not one to go out and about when we're, you know, in the midst of the meat and everything.

Speaker 8 And then after that, you know, I got to do some stuff back home. And then I'm trying to figure out if I want to just go do a cruise.
But yeah, I just love to travel and just see the world.

Speaker 8 Karani James. That's his name.
Karani James. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Grenada. Hey, he's still, he's still running too.
Yes. Went to the University of Alabama.
He won the NCA championships in the 400 meters. Turned pro.
LaShawn Merritt.

Speaker 8 Won the, I think LaShawn won in 08. He won in 12.
Van Nieckert won in

Speaker 8 16.

Speaker 8 And Fast Stevie

Speaker 8 for the Bahamas.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 it's so hard. I mean, why is it so hard for 400 meters to repeat? Because if you go back and look at it, Michael Johnson is the only one to double up.

Speaker 8 No other man has ever won back-to-back 400 meter titles. Why is it so hard for men to repeat the 400 meters? I mean,

Speaker 8 you're seeing the times right now. There's always somebody that's coming into the fold, somebody else that's running 43 seconds, running 43 fives or whatever.
I mean, you got these Botswana kids.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Chippy. Chippy just ran 43.5.
Where did he come from?

Speaker 8 Hey, there's just a lot of talented people in the world. And, you know, they just need the right coach and right program.

Speaker 8 So these kids are finally finding the right circumstances, the right system, and all that. And they're ready to go.
And, you know,

Speaker 8 I mean, that's why it's hard. I mean, even look at this 200.
I think this is the fastest 200 I've ever been in. It is.

Speaker 8 You know, it is.

Speaker 8 You know, when Bolt was running, what? It It was him, maybe one other person, and everybody else is not running that fast. Now we got four, four or five guys that are running under some 12.

Speaker 8 I think it's the most time, the most, that we've had guys on the, I think, what, 19.7? You had four guys that run

Speaker 8 in one race.

Speaker 8 Yeah, sub-19.7. We've never had that many run.
So we had four. We had two guys on the 19, on the 19.6, and we had two guys on the 19.7.

Speaker 8 So we had four guys that run sub-19.7, which is, which, like you said, unheard of. I mean, you can get.

Speaker 8 Go ahead.

Speaker 8 Like I said,

Speaker 8 shoes are getting better, surface are getting better, training programs are getting better. You're finding the right talents.
Like, there's a window track on the road. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And you're getting the right because a lot of things have to go right.

Speaker 8 I was talking, we had MJ on Melissa, and we were saying she had the right people in the race to go really fast.

Speaker 8 If she gets a plus one, tailwind, she's going sub-10-6

Speaker 8 because she got Alfred in there. She got Tia Clayton.
She got Tina Clayton. She got Talou Smith in there.
So she has the people. You need the competition.
You need a track. And you need conditions.

Speaker 8 She had everything except the conditions. If she get a plus one, she's going to sub 10-6.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's over with. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Melissa, she's been putting in so much work. I mean, from seeing her last year into going to this year, yeah,

Speaker 8 she got way stronger. Mechanics, everything has gotten so much better.
It's just awesome to see what she's done this year. And I definitely feel like, you know, she can repeat this.

Speaker 8 You know, it is, it is hard to do it, but she's one of those athletes that can repeat and be a double champion again.

Speaker 8 Man, I want, man,

Speaker 8 I wish it was 2027. I wish we had the worlds and the next year was the 27 because it's, I mean, to stay on, to stay on top.
It's hard because like you said,

Speaker 8 you got 200 countries and you got some 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old that we ain't even heard of yet. And all of a sudden, they pop up out of this.
That's why it's important.

Speaker 8 You got to find the right people. I mean, for me, I invest so much in my body.
I mean, you got people, you know, even with Tobogo, you know, he was Olympic champ last year.

Speaker 8 This year, he didn't come out with anything. And, you know, there's just a lot of things that you need to do in order to stay on top.
I mean, I got a physio, a massage therapist, chiropractor.

Speaker 8 You know, I invest in a lot of my body. I mean, I got a cold plunge, sauna at my house, red light therapy.
Like, it's a, it's a lot of hard work.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I mean, I'm looking at the women and the hurdles.

Speaker 8 Hell, where did did kombucha come from how she like that she's always been there she but i mean look look at what we got we got russell we got stark we got all them i'm like damn yeah i mean the women's hurdles has always been tough i mean you go watch the diamond league there's always three or four of them in that race so they never get a break

Speaker 8 and and and it's hard we don't i don't know if we've ever had a repeat champion in in the women's hurdle because you get one and then the next year boom here comes somebody else And then here comes somebody else.

Speaker 8 I mean, you had Joanna Hayes and you had Don Harper and then you here come

Speaker 8 Breonna Rollins and then you get

Speaker 8 Camacho. I'm like,

Speaker 8 that's what makes track inciting because you don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 8 Except when it came to the 100 meters back from 2008, 12 and 16, we knew. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 It wasn't. Who got, hey, he show up.
Who got second? Who would get the silver?

Speaker 8 You already know.

Speaker 8 You know. Yeah, he's just looking like, all right, who's going to win?

Speaker 8 Did you ever get a chance to race against both?

Speaker 8 Nah, nah, I'm too young. Way too young.
So when he retired, 2017, I didn't become a pro until 2019, 2020. Oh, yeah, we used to be.
Yeah, because I'm only 26.

Speaker 8 Oh, you got some good years left.

Speaker 8 You about a year and a half away from prime. So you should be real good by by the time 28 roll around.

Speaker 8 It's in L.A.

Speaker 8 Hey, that's perfect.

Speaker 8 It's L.A., look,

Speaker 8 and they ain't coming back. Last time they was in L.A.
was 1984. So

Speaker 8 home soil. We need some home cooking, Kenny.
We need home cooking.

Speaker 8 That's the perfect time.

Speaker 8 Well, I'm expecting you. All I know is I'm going to be watching 2026 Ultimate Championships.
Are they going to be normal races like they normally would be?

Speaker 8 You know, what is the Drake and the SAC?

Speaker 8 So they're going to be.

Speaker 8 I would say, yeah.

Speaker 8 You know, Drake Relays, I actually like going to that, but usually when they have that, I'm always overseas running somewhere.

Speaker 8 But yeah, they'll have that. Mount Sack, you know, still Diamond League, like all those things are going to be there.

Speaker 8 I still think we have our nationals as well. So that will be going on.
So we have a full season of a lot of meets and everything else.

Speaker 8 So like I said, time-wise, I'm just focused on just

Speaker 8 I'm focused on just executing my race next year. And time goal wise, I got what you're looking at for 100 meters.
What do you, what, what's, what's, what's your goal? What's your goal for the 100?

Speaker 8 What's your goal for the 200?

Speaker 8 So how I felt this year and what I was doing at practice,

Speaker 8 you know, I was talking to my coach. I definitely could have ran 9-7 mid or 9-7 low.

Speaker 8 So I feel like next year, if, you know, coach wants to do it with me, I feel like I want to go after that American record for the 100 meters.

Speaker 8 968? it's 69.

Speaker 8 well you got to run 968.

Speaker 8 oh yeah yeah yeah true

Speaker 8 hold on whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

Speaker 8 have you been under have you been under 98

Speaker 8 yeah i went nine nine seventy nine

Speaker 8 at our trial at our trials yeah

Speaker 8 do you understand how

Speaker 8 kenny i understand it but like i said

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Speaker 8 With the shape that I'm in right now and the practices that I've had recently leading up to 100, and that's why it stung so much more for me when I didn't cross the finish line, even getting a medal because of my mishaps.

Speaker 8 I could have done something dangerous. And now I got to wait two years, but I'm just like, hey, screw it.

Speaker 8 You know, if coach wants to to do this next year, you know, that's one of the goals that I want to hit because I definitely feel like I'm capable of doing it. I finally have a start.

Speaker 8 That took about what, four, four years. I mean, my teammates were kicking, teammates were kicking my ass for four years straight in the blocks.

Speaker 8 It was so bad to where we were just like, hey, man, screw the blocks. Let me just do the workout right now and just roll y'all up.
Like, that's what I wanted

Speaker 8 because they were embarrassing me, but, you know,

Speaker 8 I... I feel great.
And every race, even, even running the 985 in the semifinals, like, that's the easiest 985 I ever ran.

Speaker 8 You know, no, no tensing up or anything. So I knew that the finals, I could have done something crazy.
And then obviously you guys saw what happened,

Speaker 8 had a late reaction. And then yeah, I'm like, well, damn, Kenny.
Yeah. That was Jordan Amiter reaction.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Like I said, it just, I let it slip away. And that's why it stung so much more because I knew that I was in really good shape.
So now I got to wait.

Speaker 8 You ran 979.

Speaker 8 Where do you feel you can make up that kind of time? Because that's a lot of time. From 979 to 968, that ain't no step.
That's more than a step. For me,

Speaker 8 where are you going to make up the time at the start?

Speaker 8 The transition?

Speaker 8 Deceleration? It's in the start. So usually in the 100, especially when I get up, you just stay relaxed and just hold on to what I build up.
So for me, it's in the first.

Speaker 8 you know 20 30 40 meters if i can set up perfectly then i can get it

Speaker 8 man you train with christian Can't you get that start? Can't you let that rob off on you?

Speaker 8 It has actually. I mean, that's why my,

Speaker 8 that's why my, that's why the start has actually been way better. I mean, the addition to having him also with the other teammates of mine,

Speaker 8 it just really helped. Like something just clicked this year.
And then, hey, I finally got a start. And that just built confidence.
And, you know, going to Grand Slam as well just really helped.

Speaker 8 I just really needed reps in the 100 because that was the biggest thing that I was lacking in previous years. Like, I was like, hey, can I get in 100? And it's like, nah, you're a 200 guy.

Speaker 8 Let's run it too. So I'm like, oh, damn, this is like my 10th 200 of the year.
Let me get in 100. So this year really helped me out just to kind of understand the mechanics.

Speaker 8 You know, I think also just being older and just maturing as an athlete, actually understanding what my coach was trying to teach me the previous years, everything just started to just make sense, became way easier.

Speaker 8 And like I said, I'm confident that, you know, I can get around that area next year. But that's what coach wants to do, if that's what coach wants to do, because I know everything's about a plan.

Speaker 8 You know, you could go crazy next year, but then you got, you know, another world championships in the Olympics. So, you know, if it's not part of his blueprint, then we'll see.

Speaker 8 How different is the training from 100? I would assume that 100, you're doing 150s and twos. So for a two, are you doing 250s, threes? How different is the training? It depends on the coach.

Speaker 8 For us in particular.

Speaker 8 If we're training for a 200, you know, we do like 250s, 300s, 150s, 120s, a lot of speed work.

Speaker 8 And then

Speaker 8 he wants to make us hone on the technical side of the race because he's like, okay, you can build all this speed, but it don't mean anything if you're not technically sound.

Speaker 8 So when it comes to the 100,

Speaker 8 60, 80s,

Speaker 8 60, 80s, 60, 80s, just a lot of 60, 80s and then 120s.

Speaker 8 But I mean, it's working. Every coach is different.
You know, another coach can say something completely different, but that's what we do. A lot of sled training as well.

Speaker 8 uh we do a lot of 1080 stuff like we do we do a bunch of stuff wow and weight training uh

Speaker 8 plyos a lot of uh uh snack a lot of uh uh cleans a lot of partial squats uh a lot of box jumps i mean a lot of explosive stuff because you can't be explosive if you don't train explosive Yeah, it's like stuff like that.

Speaker 8 I mean, you, you know,

Speaker 8 I can't give too much detail. It'll get mad.

Speaker 8 I got you. I got you.
Man, Kenny, thanks for your time, man. Appreciate it.
Good luck tomorrow. Bro, it's been a while since we've been atop

Speaker 8 the podium on the global stage and the relay, man.

Speaker 8 Don't let us down, Kenny. Don't let us down.
Yeah, I said we got you.

Speaker 8 We got a good squad. We've been practicing hard.

Speaker 8 We'll get it done.

Speaker 8 Hell, we'll be out here. Y'all hear that, Jamaicans? Do y'all hear that? Don't be bad.
Don't be bad. Cause we're about to get both of them.
Sweet steaks.

Speaker 8 men and women

Speaker 8 american flag i gotta find me american flag tomorrow because i'm gonna be flying it hot

Speaker 8 i've been hey i've been suffering but kenny i ain't gonna lie i've been i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a

Speaker 8 i'm a worst winner they hate you they do but they do

Speaker 8 When y'all win this wage tomorrow, I will give them something to hate. All right.

Speaker 8 I will count on it. Kenny Beneric, silver medalist in back-to-back Olympics and in the world championship.
Kenny, congratulations. Good luck, Tamara.
Come back and talk to us again soon, man.

Speaker 8 All right. Thank you.
Thanks for having me on. Appreciate you, babe.
All right. Bye.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe.

Speaker 8 Do we got graphics for this? We got a new game. Our newest games, our newest segment is back.
It's called Play of Fade. It's presented by Prize Picks, and this is how it works.

Speaker 8 The Nightcap staff has made a slip of their picks, and we either play their slip or make some changes, choosing more or less. See, I felt pretty good.
I got two are right, two of us right.

Speaker 8 So let me see what we got here. Jordan Love, more won 1.5 touchdown passes.
Well, Lamar Jackson threw for like 12, so he going to have at least two more, 0.5, more, more, more. You like that?

Speaker 8 You like that, Ocho? Because you cost me last time, because you told me James Cook was going to have, oh, yeah, he going to have like 30 yards

Speaker 8 receiving and didn't.

Speaker 9 well i mean they didn't they didn't have to but most of the time they

Speaker 8 tried to win money you talking about they didn't have to i mean no well we don't know what the game plan is but most of the time they he catches the ball out the backfield as well so i thought that that would have been a smart that would have been a smart play i'm i'm betting money i okay i'm trying to win money i'm trying to get i've tried to win 5900 that you owe me so i'm trying to do stuff to get that okay okay i see i see what you see i see how about this here bijan robinson more than 110.5 rush yards and receiving yards combined against Carolina.

Speaker 8 Absolutely. Come on, now.
Okay, Elcho say go more. Tyler Warren, 47.5 receiving yards against Tennessee.
That's the tight end from the Colts.

Speaker 9 Hey, listen, the way Danny Dimes is dishing, man,

Speaker 9 the way Danny Dimes is dishing,

Speaker 8 what you think?

Speaker 8 I'm going to, I, Lord, have mercy. Damn.

Speaker 9 You ain't got no confidence in 17 over there with the horseshoe on the helmet?

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 8 All right. All right.
I'm going to go. Okay.
Yeah. Jake Elliott, more than 1.5 field goal against the Raiders.

Speaker 8 They're playing the Raiders.

Speaker 8 No, that's the Rams.

Speaker 8 Rams. Jake Elliott, that's the Eagles, right?

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 8 He going two, two, two,

Speaker 8 two, two, two.

Speaker 8 I'm taking a staff slip.

Speaker 8 But I tell you what, y'all better be right on. The only one I'm really concerned about is Tyler Warren, the 47 and a half receiving yards.
But I.

Speaker 8 I got to go against you, Ocho. My gut tells me to go against you.

Speaker 1 See?

Speaker 9 One thing, one thing you never do. Never bet against the house.
Oh, you the house now?

Speaker 9 I'm the house. Never bet against the house.

Speaker 8 Well, when the house gonna pay some money, my money. When the house going now pay my money.
Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineups.

Speaker 8 So go on out there and play, you know, we're going to win some money tomorrow. Oh, Joe, Atlanta Falcons Cup kicker.

Speaker 8 Young Way Cool, after seven years with the team, signed new starter Parker Romo to a two-year deal.

Speaker 8 And Arnold Cole, the fans have asked us to bring the viral clip with Coach Prime and the pronunciation of his name back. Y'all did be dirty, Ocho.

Speaker 9 Hey, that was classic, bro. Boy, y'all had me molding.

Speaker 8 Here's the clip.

Speaker 8 I don't think they can hear it.

Speaker 8 Young Hoku kicks the five and over the fake. What? What's that?

Speaker 8 Young way.

Speaker 8 Young way. Young way.
No, he ain't what you said, dog.

Speaker 12 I said young Hoku.

Speaker 8 No, you can't. That's not their name.

Speaker 8 What's his name?

Speaker 8 Who you talking about?

Speaker 8 The kicker for the five. What's the name?

Speaker 8 Young?

Speaker 8 Young Way.

Speaker 8 Don't try to to take that, though. You got to stop that.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 8 but look, how it was. Hold on.
How's it spelling spell?

Speaker 8 Hey, Joe. How to spell young? How they spelling young.

Speaker 8 No, they don't spell it young like we spell it. They, I think they spell it why you.
So, how you know how to spell that and you know how to spell up them?

Speaker 8 No, no, she,

Speaker 8 oh, she asked spelled her. Oh, this is young ho, coup.

Speaker 8 But you said, oh,

Speaker 8 no,

Speaker 9 you said young hoe.

Speaker 8 Guess what he said, didn't he?

Speaker 8 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 8 Hold on. You have a flashback.
Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.
Okay, what is this spell? Y-O-U-N-G-H-O-E-

Speaker 8 Who wrote that for you? Ain't nobody. That ain't nobody's name.
That's ain't nobody's name, dog. That is nobody's name.

Speaker 8 That is nobody's real name.

Speaker 8 And you're gonna say it.

Speaker 8 That ain't nobody's name. Oh, Joe.

Speaker 8 That is

Speaker 8 nobody's name spelled like that. You know, there ain't nobody's name spelled like that.

Speaker 8 Actually, that is his name. That's the way it's that is pronounced Young Way.
Why you say young way? But it's spelled

Speaker 8 because, no, she put it on there as Young Way. But if you go look at it, it's Y-O-N-G-H-O-E.

Speaker 8 G-H-O-E don't make that sound. Go.

Speaker 8 Go. Go.

Speaker 8 That makes it go.

Speaker 8 There you go. See, man, you're not saying that.
You always say you got flashbacks. You got to stop that, though, man.

Speaker 8 The Falcons defense of special teams make big plays and thrilling wins.

Speaker 8 Oh, I know.

Speaker 8 I ain't know what you're talking about. I ain't know what you're talking about, dog.

Speaker 8 No, you did. No, you did.

Speaker 8 No, you didn't.

Speaker 9 Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.

Speaker 8 Edible.

Speaker 9 Hey, that was classic.

Speaker 8 Man, that's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q.
And hey.

Speaker 9 Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.

Speaker 8 That's fun. We're going to be able to listen to 10 years from now and still laugh the same way.
Y'all got jokes, huh? Yeah, that was fun. We'll have had facts.

Speaker 8 Can we show Ocho skateboard video, please?

Speaker 9 Well, that was from years ago.

Speaker 9 You saw that?

Speaker 8 You when that skateboard flew out from under your ass?

Speaker 8 I saw that.

Speaker 9 Hey, it was so long ago, but

Speaker 9 I can actually skate. Now, I compete.
I compete. I'd be at the skate park and all that.

Speaker 8 Astral said, Unconocho, when y'all weren't partying or outside in college, what do you guys do? Love the show. Much love.
Well, I ain't party.

Speaker 8 I went to one party in four years of college. I was in my room reading GQ, thinking about what I was going to be doing in four years, five years, what my NFL career is going to look like.

Speaker 8 That's what I was doing. Doing homework.

Speaker 9 Yeah. And honestly, for those that know me, those in the chat, if you follow me long enough, as long as I've been on social media, you know I don't party.
You know, I don't club.

Speaker 9 You know, I don't drink.

Speaker 9 gaming high school gaming college i was gaming yeah i just yeah part of the clubbing i don't drink so therefore i don't want to be around people that do drink because people that drink they like to have conversations on they be talking about stuff they start three conversations i'm like and i don't want to i ain't interested in none of them in none of it i just nah and then the music be too loud and then people step on your shoes and crowd i don't i don't like that yeah i mean obviously you couldn't party during the season because you was in your room to have bread check at on Friday and then Saturday game.

Speaker 8 And so once the season was over, I mean, I got a girlfriend my junior year and senior year. So we went to the, once the season was over, we'd go to the movies.

Speaker 8 You know, I had a little bread, Ocho, you know, I'd go off camper, you know, get in a little room. Yeah, you know, I was, you know, bro, make sure I was straight, but I was not a partier, my man.

Speaker 8 Kimberly Norwood Jr. said, Uncle I can't believe Ocho got an iPhone 17.
Hold on.

Speaker 8 Ocho got a got an iPhone 17, but won't pay you a $5,900, uh.

Speaker 8 Next time you're in Dallas for a bottle siding, I'm coming to see. Ocho.

Speaker 9 Who got an iPhone 17?

Speaker 8 You did. I didn't.
Let me see it, Ocho. Hold your phone up.
My phone, I don't got no.

Speaker 8 Ben,

Speaker 8 this man really, you.

Speaker 8 Hey, huh.

Speaker 9 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 8 I was eligible for an upgrade.

Speaker 9 I still had the iPhone 12.

Speaker 9 I had the iPhone 12. So I eligible.

Speaker 8 Chad, I need y'all to tell Chad.

Speaker 8 what should i do to ocho

Speaker 8 chat come on chat y'all keep on saying man oh man uh star man let man let ocho live ocho trying to get endorsement deal what that got to do with my 5900 uh listen you're not you're not listening to me uh i done had the iphone 12 for the longest so i was

Speaker 8 i went i went to go pay my cell phone bill and they told me about um

Speaker 8 About me being able to oh, you got to upgrade.

Speaker 9 You haven't got a new phone in a long time.

Speaker 9 Like, well, you mean I ain't got to pay nothing so they say yeah if you pay your phone bill you can you can you can switch you can switch out the phone so i ain't really pay nothing yeah you pay something you got to pay x about a dollar you get an upgrade but you got to pay for it no

Speaker 9 i had the iphone 12 i went from the 12 to the 17 i didn't have to pay nothing you got to pay something yeah i had to pay my phone bill it was my phone bill was like 120

Speaker 8 No, and you're gonna have to pay $100 because they put so they put the new upgrade in your phone bill.

Speaker 9 Nah, nah, nah, nah, that's not, that's not.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's an extra $20, $30 a month. That's okay, Ocho.
I mean, chat, chat,

Speaker 8 chat, as you start a poll,

Speaker 8 what should Unc do to Ocho after Ocho refuses to give him his money?

Speaker 9 I'm not, I'm not refusing. I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm waiting for my money to get right.

Speaker 8 Hold on, you done got L V track suit, you done got a new iPhone, you done got all this new stuff, you got a new house, you got all this stuff.

Speaker 8 Me,

Speaker 9 I got you. I got you.

Speaker 8 I got you. Serial PC, can we get a shout out to Ocho's college quarterback Jay Smith and my daughter's Michigan State Spartans as we battle USC tonight at 11? Go green.

Speaker 9 Wait, that game ain't start yet?

Speaker 8 Yeah, it should have started.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Jonathan Smith, that's my high school quarterback.

Speaker 8 He coaching?

Speaker 9 Yeah, he the head coach of Michigan State.

Speaker 8 Is he? Yeah,

Speaker 8 yeah.

Speaker 9 left. Uh, he left Oregon State.
Now he's at Michigan State.

Speaker 8 Well, I didn't know that. Congratulations.
Oh, Joe, uh, Tornado's Green. Who goes O's and three? Who goes 0-3 tomorrow? Who goes 1-2?

Speaker 8 Oh, and 3. I guess you're looking at the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 Wait, who possibly got

Speaker 8 they played the Giants. Who else hasn't won a game yet?

Speaker 9 Oh, it can get ugly for the Chiefs, boy. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You taking the Chiefs to go one and two or 0-3?

Speaker 8 Hey, honestly, I mean, Mahomes going to figure it out.

Speaker 9 I don't see them going to 0-3. And if they go to 0-3, is it time to hit the panic button?

Speaker 8 I don't know. Do you hit the panic button with a quarterback like Mahomes and what he's done in the past?

Speaker 8 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 9 That's a good one.

Speaker 9 That might be the best game of the day, honestly. That might be the best game of the day

Speaker 9 who else had won a game that we were suspecting to win a game goddamn colts the colts play tomorrow yeah they play tennessee that's who i want to see i mean colts tennessee is really not an exciting game that the game that people want to see i want to see if god goddamn daniel jones is for real or is it a situation like baker mayfield or a situation like um sam donnell you know sam donald goes to minnesota all of a sudden all world baker mayfield goes to tampa bay all of a sudden all world.

Speaker 9 It's just the right situation. I want to see if the Indianapolis Coats just happened to be the right situation for Daniel Jones.

Speaker 8 It might be. That's what it is.
But guess who else had that exact situation?

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 8 Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 8 Better had that exact situation.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 8 And guess who had that exact situation that J.J. McCarthy got, that Sam Donnell, J.J.
McCarthy?

Speaker 8 Jason said, what's up, Agonocho? My birthday is tomorrow. Can I get a shot? I also go Kane.
Yes, Jason, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Twin.
Enjoy. Spend it with family, friends, and loved ones.

Speaker 8 Tell them you love them. Hopefully, they tell you they love you and you got something real nice.
Dr. Frankie L.
Bellamy said, hey, fam,

Speaker 8 that shea by Laporte is so smooth. From now on, you should be known as the Kanyak King.
You're welcome. Thank you, Doc.
I appreciate the support.

Speaker 8 You've been supporting Nightcap, Club Shea Shea, and Laporte, all things. 84.

Speaker 8 We appreciate that, Doc, because you've been one of the very first ones to follow nightcap you've been a mod for a long time and every time ocho and i show up uh

Speaker 8 atlanta you were here in atlanta you was here in and and and uh at new orleans you came to uh uh the very first one in las vegas so doc ocho and i and the nightcap family we can't thank you enough we appreciate the support

Speaker 8 ocho yo Here's a skateboard video. This is Ocho on the skateboard.
Yeah, this old.

Speaker 9 I forgot what year this was, too, huh?

Speaker 9 You see, I got you see that. You see, I got my cigar in my mouth, too.
See, I can skate.

Speaker 8 No, you can't.

Speaker 9 No, I mean, no, no. I mean, I mean, I can skate for real.
I mean, I can skate for real.

Speaker 9 I was just trying to all I was trying to um do some damn trick, and the cigar in my mouth is the reason why I failed.

Speaker 8 What that chick

Speaker 8 up, ocho,

Speaker 8 gosh,

Speaker 8 I was good though.

Speaker 9 I was good. I was good, though.

Speaker 8 I was good.

Speaker 9 But see, the funny thing, that's about,

Speaker 9 that might be six, seven years old. Now, now, you know, I ride at a skateboard down here in downtown Miami.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe.

Speaker 8 Six or seven years later, it still hurt.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 I'm good.

Speaker 9 I'm a real skater, though.

Speaker 8 I do everything.

Speaker 22 I do everything.

Speaker 8 You a real something.

Speaker 8 Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your your favorite honk, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own, Matting Drating's Adjuster.

Speaker 8 He's a ring of fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler all-pro. He's Chad Ochocenco Johnson.
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Speaker 8 Billy Meyer, Billy, excuse me, Billy Napier is really, really on thin ice. He's going to have to get this thing turned around if he wants to stay head coach of the University of Florida.
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Speaker 8 He's Ocho. Ready for tomorrow.
Tomorrow night. I'm ready for tomorrow night.
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