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Oh, Joe, you're not going to like this.

Bleacher Report just released the list saying only four NFL quarterbacks are true franchise quarterbacks.

Number one, Mahome Boy.

Number two, Josh Allen.

allen number three lamar jackson number four matthew stafford they said the following players just missed the cut joe burrow for most for uh for the most joe burrow already finds himself among the top tier however he needs to be on the field to truly earn that designation multiple injuries throughout the years have blunted this standing despite one of the best the game's best and most efficient passes jalen hurts with nitpicking over the actual the best best game important position, he's still difficult to envision.

Hurts shouldering the entire Eagles offense with a less talented rounding

and still being as successful.

Jordan Love has, as long as he minimized turnovers and helped push the young receivers targets found on the Packers roster, the fifth year quarterback has a chance to be counted among the league's best.

Jaden Daniels, Daniels has quite a good start to a sophomore campaign.

Daniels has every tool to be successful, to succeed.

He just needs to, on a consistent basis.

Baker Mayfield, his competitiveness and enthusiasm are infectious, though in the 29th, 2018, the number one overall pick does benefit from an awesome wide receiver core and good offensive line when healthy.

He also doesn't have quite the same playmaking capabilities as others did that made the list.

OJO, they say they got four.

They got Mahome Boy, Josh Allen, Lamar, Matthew Stafford.

They say the next tier was Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurst, Jordan Love, Jane Daniels, and Baker Mayfield.

You got a problem with that four.

The fourth four is.

I don't have a problem with that four, but the whole point of the list was teams that have franchise quarterbacks, I thought, right?

Fruit, yes.

Yeah, well, um.

that they can't they can't choose the tiers based on franchise quarterbacks because we're not talking about who's the best we're just just talking about teams that have franchise quarterbacks.

The Bakers have a franchise quarterback, whether he gets hurt or not.

Well, you got to be on the field.

Come on, don't do that.

But that's what I'm saying.

That's why they docked it.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Because think about Ocho.

First year, what did he do?

AC.

First year, ACL.

What the third year?

It was what was his hand or his shoulder?

Yeah, I think his wrist.

His wrist.

Remember his wrist.

Now, if,

hold on, what is it now?

Oh, what are you hurting now?

Remember his toe, his toe.

His toe, yeah, turf toe.

So there's a possibility, Ocho, he could miss

he coming back in December.

He'll be back in December.

That's if everything goes perfect.

Oh, it's definitely going well.

It's going to go well.

I'm talking about he's going to be fine, especially with

technology and

stuff.

But brother Jake Browning, you're going to see tomorrow.

I don't mean to, I don't mean this.

I'm going to speak things in existence.

You You know, my grandma always told me, anything you want, all you have to do is speak it into existence.

Boy, we finna beat the breaks off Minnesota, man.

We finna beat the breaks off Minnesota and Carson wins.

Huh?

But now back to the topic of hand.

There are a small selection of quarterbacks, teams that have franchise quarterbacks.

Justin Herbert is a franchise quarterback.

Jalen Hurst is a franchise quarterback.

They're going on Pacifics based on the way they win as Knox.

Oh, because he doesn't pass well, because it didn't have a block.

no that had nothing to do with it there are teams that have quarterback that you can build around jaden daniels cj stroud these are franchise altering quarterbacks for the next 10 years these teams don't have to do anything except build around those quarterbacks

so i i i agree with the four but there are others that belong in that category.

And if we talk about the best quarterbacks, then you could put them in tiers.

You can do that.

You can nitpick, you know, when we talk about tiers of who's better.

But the topic was what teams have franchise quarterbacks.

And those are quarterbacks that you don't have to touch or be worried about and just have to build around them.

I think that, plus, you got to look at a franchise quarterback.

If I took Jalen Hurts and I gave him Patrick Mahomes offense.

Could he get that team to a Super Bowl?

Could he do what he did in Philly?

Ooh, that's different.

That's different.

I like that you said that.

Because that's what they're saying.

When they look at a franchise quarterback, they said that if it's kind of like the Joe situation, if we remove the hedge,

which is the greatness of that offensive line, if we remove that running game, we took A.J.

Bryan, we took Devontae.

And let's just say we gave you Kansas City's offense.

Right.

Okay.

Let's just say we gave you Buffalo's offense.

Could you still be, could you still get that team to the playoffs?

Could you still go win a Super Bowl?

I see.

I like that you did that.

Now, when you did that, that changes the whole dynamic.

That changes everything because you could put Mahomes on any team and he'll have success.

You could put Lamar Jackson.

So what would Mahomes look like

with Philly's offensive line, that running game and those receivers?

That wouldn't be fair.

Or you put

Josh Allen in that to put Josh Allen in that system.

Put Lamar Jackson in it.

Put Lamar in there.

Okay.

If I turn around, if I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in Lamar's system, system it's gonna be the same thing if i put josh if i took matthew stafford and put him in philly

hey and listen and every you gotta think everybody you mentioned you talk about gunslingers yes

just having the addition of a running back in the offensive line like that if you put any of those quarterbacks in philly it's almost unfair right it's almost unfair when you think about it so i look i understand because i think the thing is ojo you're like oh he's really good yeah there's always only been like franchise altering.

There's only been a handful of them.

In the 80s, you go back.

You go back, look at the 90s, you go back.

You look at the 2000s.

You look at the 10s.

And

there's only been a handful of them.

There's never been 10 franchise quarterbacks.

We just now, anybody that have a good year, they're a franchise quarterback now.

Where we used to make guys play three, four good years before we bestowed that title on them.

That's the way we used to be, Ocho, with any position, not just the quarterback.

Bro, you couldn't just go to the Pro Bowl and then all of a sudden say, oh,

I'm a top flight wide receiver or X, Y, and Z.

Oh, Ocho, we got a very special guest joining us today.

Hey, this guy won the silver medal in the 200 meters in Tokyo.

uh at the world uh in tokyo the olympic game in 2024 he back again he won the silver medal again and the world championships in eugene in 24 he won the silver medal in the 200 in tokyo just the other day, he won the silver medal in the 200 meters.

Hey, at some point in time, he says, I keep knocking on the door,

I'm going to be the first one to be

the first one to get in the house.

Kenny, your fourth championship, you get silver.

How difficult?

Because I know you're in great condition.

You dropped down to the 100.

Everything was perfect.

You got great endurance.

You got great speed.

You built that.

I know you please.

Look, you got on the podium.

And at the end of the day, yeah, hey, I podium.

But the goal,

what you got to do to get the goal, Kenny?

Man,

I just got to work on the small little things.

I mean, like you said before, I'm in really good shape.

I have the endurance.

I got the speed.

I got everything.

I just got to figure out how to get that last 10 meters because that's where it seems like it's been, you know, just getting away from me.

Right there, right there.

You're right there.

Hey, this last race, Kenny, I thought, I said, oh, damn, look at Kenny.

Hey, he pulled up on you.

You're like, okay, you pulled ahead.

And like you said, it was that last 10 meters.

I was like, damn, Kenny.

Yeah.

I mean, honestly, I would say for this championship, this was the best second half I ever had in a while.

Because usually I always tend to get in the lead and I kind of give it away.

But yeah, as soon as LaVelle kind of got right next to me, it was just, hey, make sure not to panic.

I already know that I'm in good shape.

Just keep on going.

And, you know, doing that from lane eight, that's all I can ask for.

So I mean, yeah, it's like a little bittersweet moment right now for me because I've always been knocking on that door.

But, you know, eventually I'm going to get it because every single year you're gonna kick the door in huh

i i'm gonna i'm gonna put my foot in that door

hey first yeah yeah first off i want to say congratulations and i i wanted to take me through what it's like that moment before you get in the blocks what's that feeling like crowd is it is it quiet or do you hear the noise do you have butterflies are you nervous i mean i'm curious what that feeling is like before that gun goes off for you i feel like younger me the nerves are really there but now you know i'm a vet now and I've been, I've been here for a very long time.

But yeah,

I just embrace the moment.

I mean, the crowd doesn't get too big for me.

You know, I literally stare at the crowd right before the race and like, okay, it's go time.

And as soon as, you know, they say set, you know, everything is ready to go.

I'm in that flow state.

So just trying to execute my race and go.

Okay, okay.

I like it.

Kenny, man, all I want to know is, man, look, we got all these fast 100 meter guys.

Can we get the baton around the track?

That's all I want to know, Kenny.

Can we get, can we, look, I mean, for far too many times on the global stage kenny we got the fastest men but somehow the baton end up on the track or we get out we get out of our passing lanes can we get it around the track tomorrow hey we for sure gonna do it i mean what we got eight eight more hours to go so i'm getting ready for that but we've been we've been practicing hard and we're ready to go i mean like you said before it's

We always had the foot speed, but it's more so the precision of the baton and just making sure to do our job, man.

We're going to get the job done this time.

Okay.

Let me see if I get this right.

Okay.

Christian Coleman is going to start it off.

He's the greatest starter in American history.

Yeah.

Are you still in second leg or did they move you to third?

I think I'm still in second.

I mean, that's where I feel like I'm best utilized.

And, you know, I'm going to make sure to do my job.

So we're going to handle our business when it comes to that.

Obviously, Noah's going to be on the anchor.

And when he's been anchor, we have yet to lose.

Yeah.

So

who goes third?

I think Courtney Lindsey, my training partner.

So, yeah, I think, you know, the good thing about this relay squad is, you know, Christian's my teammate, Courtney's my teammate.

So we already have that chemistry.

So I think that's what I'm saying.

Okay, okay.

Okay, just keep it close.

Just keep it close.

You know, Canada, they powder their chairs.

DeGras, he powdered his chair.

He doing all this.

I don't want to see none of that.

I don't want to see none of that.

I don't want to see none of that tomorrow.

Like I said, we're going to handle business.

I mean, Canada, you know,

they always kind of, they always get things right.

I mean, the practice, I want to say they're sneaky, but I mean, they've been using the same squad for the last, what, eight years or something like that?

So they got those handoffs down.

So we just got to make sure to do our job.

And we do that, then we're good.

You're one of the few guys that's ever been able to run, you know, sub 20.

You know, you run sub 45.

It was really shaky.

It was really shaky for the 400 meters.

We had to run against, I think it was the Kenyans or somebody.

It's just two people.

Just two teams.

And it was basically whoever finished first.

I saw the Bot Swannon team.

And they looking good.

I'm scared.

I ain't going to lie to you, Kenny.

Kenny, I'm scared.

They go 1-3-5, and they didn't even have Tobogo.

If they bring Tobogo, they ran 257 without Tobogo.

I'm nervous, Kenny.

I'm like a long-tailed dog on a porch full of rocket chairs.

I'm nervous like that, Kenny.

Hey, I mean, I trust that they're going to handle their business.

I mean, last year was a very close race, and it's going to be wire to wire for for this one too so they just got to make sure to do their job and you know we're gonna see who finished first can we get they gonna let burn they're gonna let the old man i mean because y'all know vern is a game called it burn is a gamer burn is a gamer

yeah i mean i i don't know i mean i haven't i haven't spoken to the coaches i don't really know what team they're gonna put up but uh you know they're gonna put the best players down and like i said it's gonna be wire to wire so it's gonna be a blast to watch that race yeah Only thing I'm certain of is Rod Running Anchor Leg.

He said something very interesting yesterday.

I I don't know if you heard him.

Did you hear what he said?

He's not gonna run very many hurdles.

He's looking, I'm coming down to the four and the two.

Oh, he said that's your tarot told.

Yeah, that's what Rod said.

Now, if it's a lie, he told it, man.

He don't want to come, he don't want to come down to the two.

We got too many people.

He says, I'm coming.

I said, I'm not going to run as many hurdle races.

I'm doing four and the two.

That's what he's saying.

He can step into the lines then, but

he ain't going to do anything there.

Oh,

now you know.

Hey, now I'm going to broach this.

Now, that's what you said.

I'm going to say, Rock, we had Kenny Kung Fu on, and he said, you can come to the lines then if you want to.

He said, you okay, but

ain't nothing popping down here now.

You might as well go ahead and stay with the hurdles, deal with dos Santos, deal with Warholm, deal with Samba.

Don't come fooling with me, me and no, don't do that.

Hey, like, yeah, don't do that.

You can stick with the four, but don't come down to that too.

It ain't sweet.

Hey, Kenny, outside of track do you i mean i know you guys are busy obviously when you're locked in when you're in season what do you like outside of track do you have any hobbies do you have anything else that you're passionate about that you'd like to spend your time

time doing i like to do anything that just requires me to be outdoors uh it can be simple things it's just like atv uh just sitting by a bonfire being with friends and family uh i like skiing playing basketball i like playing video games

whoa video games

what you play i've been playing madden 2k every now and then okay okay well you play madden yeah i'm the best madden player in the world what you mean do i play madden man i probably could beat you right now

what

kenny you can't even beat me in the 200 if we race kenny what'd you say

hey you better bring your spikes right now Hey, my spikes right here in the trunk.

Yeah, you better put those on right now.

I'll see you soon.

Okay, let me know whenever you're miami.

Matter of fact, I can come to you.

Yeah, come to me.

Okay, no problem.

We can do that.

We can film the kids.

You know, right, you can brought what, like 20, 22, 23 seconds?

23?

Eight, nine.

Kenny, you know what?

I ran at what I ran in high school.

What'd you run at high school?

19-2.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, I ran 19-2 in high school.

Hey, another thing that I was going to say,

I also started picking up some Kung Fu stuffs, you know, because my whole thing is Kung Fu Kenny.

So

this year I started doing a little bit of that, but I had to be careful because obviously, being a sprinter and everything,

there's a lot of things that I can do, can't do.

But you skiing.

You ain't thinking about you being a sprinter.

You skiing.

You riding ATVs.

You doing a lot of stuff that can really, that's really detrimental to somebody that

needs their legs.

Yeah, I know.

My girlfriend, Lydia, she'd be telling me not to do these things, but I'm like, bro,

I need to do something to let my brain kind of be at ease because, you know, I do tech as a job.

I used, you know, it used to be just for love and now it's a job.

So I got to do something outside to go back to be, okay, I can do what I can do again.

But yeah, it's just hard to, you know, figure out what exactly I want to do outside.

So I'll do things I'm really not supposed to every now and then, but, you know, just one time, there's nothing wrong with one time.

Yeah.

Look,

we saw the USAs.

and we saw the 200 and you said, hey, this is, hey, this is going to be the day that I get it done.

And we thought, hey, you were so close.

and then

noah kind of nipped you at the at the tape and then kind of gave you a shove uh you so what happened yeah yeah you shoved him yeah so i'm just trying to i'm trying to figure out what happened uh we just had a little beef that was kind of going on and uh did it start before the race or do it started after he like he he looked at you like some kind of he looked at you sideways it started before the race so then you know once you know we crossed the finish line i saw that, you know, I gave him that, that shove.

And, you know, I, we both could have handled the situation a little bit different.

We both have mutual respect for each other, but, you know,

I don't, I don't, I don't play when it comes to stuff like that.

Right.

And all I can say is that, you know, every single time I step on the track, you know, I want to whoop his ass.

Is that what I was going to say?

If he'll stop looking at you, if you beat him, Katie, you got to beat him.

Yeah, I know.

Like I said, he's been getting the better than me for years.

So like I said, I'm just trying to improve myself every single time I step on the track, every single year.

I've been getting better, stronger, faster.

And that time is coming soon.

Yeah.

And Kenny, there's really nothing wrong with a little friendly competition.

Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good for the sport.

I mean, the fact that every, I mean, when I did it, I didn't think anything of it.

And then, you know, it was all over the news.

I was like, oh, okay, I guess.

You didn't think nothing of it.

You showed a man in the back and y'all running.

You ain't think nothing of it.

Hey, like I said, it's fair of the moment.

But like I said,

we discussed about it and, you know, we on the the same page and we got that mutual respect for each other but yeah it's definitely good for a sport we need healthy rivalries rivalries like that so every single time we you know i like i said i stepped down in the hundred um you know i didn't do what i wanted to do when it came to the finals but you know i was in really good shape to do something crazy in that hundred finals um so you know i'm just excited for the next year's you know oh yeah there are the rumors swirling that that burner count track spice that that might be you nah that's not me hey all i can say about that is that me my social media team we don't we don't handle that account at all i mean when it comes to that that's just noise and i just try to ignore that i mean that's all drama for me i just focus on on track and you know people are going to say what they're going to say they're going to believe me whether they believe me or not it doesn't really matter to me let me ask you something you you witnessed this you saw sid one year

she took the 400 meters she said you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna set the i'm gonna set the hurdles aside, and I'm just going to focus my attention on the 400.

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Did she win the USAs?

She goes on the global stage and runs the second fastest time that's ever been run.

A lot of people like, I mean, think about how many women have run

40.

They're like, no, nobody's going to do it.

I didn't think I was going to see a woman be able to, because really, when you think about it, no one has really come close.

I mean, think about it.

Nobody has come within a half a second

of Coke's record until Sid,

when she ran 48-29, I said, well, knowing that who's in this race, because you know, Kenny, in order to get a fast time or a world record or championship record, you need two things.

You need competition in the race and you need conditions.

Now, she didn't get the conditions, but she got Paulino and she got Nasser.

And when she got them, she knew, because when Paulino got lane eight,

she knew, knew.

And Pauline did something she normally never, she doesn't normally go out like that.

NASA is always going to take it out.

So if I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, Bobby Kersey probably told her, NASA's going to take it out.

Attach yourself to NASA.

Let her pull you to Paulino.

You're strong enough in the last 100 to bring it home.

When you saw her run, when you saw her get out and she was smooth, and you saw that time, what went through your mind when you saw 47, 78?

I wasn't surprised.

I mean, after seeing Sydney do what she did in the previous race, I was just like, world record?

I think she can hit it.

Wow.

I mean,

Sydney's a gamer.

Like, she's a dog.

I mean, you know, we've seen what she's done in the hurdles.

I wasn't sure exactly what she was going to do when she came down to the four.

You know, the first race she ran, I was like, okay, that looked pretty good.

But yeah, she's a hard worker.

And I mean, yeah, that's insane.

Yeah, I don't know what she's going to do after this year, but I feel like, hey, you should just go after that world record.

You're so close.

You might as well just go after it.

I mean, the hurdles right now for her, just, you know, that's her main event, and it's easy for her.

So, you know, just test yourself what she did this year and just try to get that world record next year.

I think, I think the thing, what she really wants to do, Kenny, she wants to take that, she wants to take the hurdles under 50

because she knows that she said she puts that record under 50.

That record might be like Flojo 100 meters.

It might be like Flojo's 200 meters.

That's what she wants.

It might be like Coke's 400-meter record.

Because something that, like,

when you think about it, ain't, I mean, you can say, well, what you call me, 1050, 1054,

Elaine Thompson ran 1054, Flojo ran 1049.

Like,

I mean, she had everything perfect.

I mean, wasn't nobody close to Flojo when she was running those times.

But

you think in the next year, because I think Bobby is positioning her, he's going to position the committee.

We'll do the 4-4 because that's all there is left.

Ain't really nothing left.

She runs the hurdle.

Can't nobody beat her unless she hits the hurdle and falls down.

But as far as just like, okay, there's a competition, somebody line up, Femka Bowl can't see her because Femka doesn't have the foot speed.

I understand Femka.

She's unbelievable and she can beat everybody else, but it's kind of like being in an era with Usain.

There were some fast guys in Usain era.

It just weren't Usain.

There are some great hurdlers in Sydney's era.

They're just not Sydney.

Yeah,

she's just a different breed.

I mean, like I said,

next year's off-year.

We got Ultimate Championships.

So I don't know what's in store for her.

But I mean, like I said, she definitely can just go after that whenever she wants to.

Tell me what the Ultimate Championships is.

So is that just the USAs?

Because the Worlds, like every odd year.

So we had 25, we had the Worlds.

We're going to have the Worlds again in 27, and then you got the Olympics in 28.

So as an off-year in 26, what's the Ultimate Championships?

Explain that to us.

uh so the ultimate championships is just some like new event that world athletics is you know having in september uh instead of it's kind of it's kind of similar like world championships, but it's not exactly the same thing.

Cause usually you bring every country that qualified with the standard and all that.

World, the ultimate championship is like the best of the best.

So I think you either go off a ranking or what you've done previously.

And it's only two races, so semifinals and finals.

So it's what?

Yeah.

And the prize.

You can have something in the tank.

You have something left to the tank.

You ain't got to go all these four rounds.

Yeah.

I mean, honestly, me personally, I was like,

I wasn't sure if I wanted wanted to do it for the next year.

But then after what happened this year, I was like, yeah, I'm definitely motivated to go there, get that prize purse because the price purse, I think, is like 150K or 100K at least, which is something that, you know, for a win of the win?

Yeah.

Damn, I might start training for something.

Hey,

matter of fact, matter of fact, we can really solidify and kind of already put that money.

already in your pocket if you allow me to be a training partner.

Because if you allow me to train on the side of you,

I'm going to get you where you need to be.

Man, you gotta race me first before you're trying to be my training partner.

You want me, you want to race?

You gotta race me first if you want to, if you want to be my training partner.

But listen, I don't want to take your confidence away because that's what's going to happen if we race.

So, I'd rather you just allow me to come into camp and be a training partner, I could be like the master.

I'll allow you to come into the camp and be my training partner, right?

First of all, you got to go through my coach, Dennis Mitchell.

He's uh, I don't know.

Hey, hey, hold on, I beat Dennis running back in the day, so he really got no say-so.

Hey,

y'all got a nice little group, y'all got a nice little group down there.

And uh, oh, we got y'all training gay, where y'all training out of Gageville?

Orlando?

No, no, no, we're pretty much in Orlando.

Okay, y'all got Melinda Jefferson, TT, y'all got Kayla,

Shaka, yeah, yeah, we got Coleman, Meek, uh, uh, Aaron Brown, we got B Stew, we got we got a bunch of people, we got Kyrie as well, Courtney Lindsey.

I mean, every Brendan Hicklin, like every freaking, every freaking practice day, it just seems like it's a, it's a race.

It's intense.

I mean, you know, for me in particular, having those guys in the group has really helped me perform at a higher level.

Well, damn, y'all.

So basically, the women's team is Team Dennis Mitchell because everybody that's on the damn relay running Dennis Mitchell.

And y'all got three or four guys that owned him that.

Hey, like I said, that's a hard work that we all put in.

Oh, yeah.

That's a hard work.

If y'all don't come away with that gold medal, I'm going to feel some type of way.

Hey, I told you, we got it.

We got it.

and i'll be on here talking hey kenny i don't know if you be seeing it but i'll be on here talking crazy to the jamaicans and they'd be something feeling some type of way

i did be feeling some type of way because they ain't got you saying no more and it ain't no short thing because we want the gold and silver in the hundred meters i said we reprayed y'all we got to go and we got the fastest woman in the world can't nobody see mj yeah and we got the gold and the silver and guess what we was about to spank y'all in the relay but we ain't got to worry worry about that now.

We're about to put something on you in the relay, but we got something for you.

When you say you're in shape,

what's an ideal weight for you, Kenny?

What do you weigh?

60, 65?

Oh, hell no.

I weigh way more than that.

I'm 190 right now.

I'm 190.

What?

Okay.

Yeah, so you're not the first person that's ever underestimated my weight.

I had a teammate of mine a couple of years ago.

He's like, what are you, 160?

I said, no, I'm 185.

And he's like, no way.

I just think most of my i have a lot of muscle and i have you probably seen photos of me like i don't have that much fat on me i think most of my muscle is in my legs i i don't know but yeah i weigh 190 192 i think last year was the heaviest i've ran at and that's just gave me way more power well see i was thinking like i was thinking like uh uh uh Fred.

I was thinking Fred Curly because he's so tall that he's about 190.

But I was like, once, I was like somewhere between 60 and 70.

For you, I didn't, I would have never guessed you were that.

Yeah, so what when I came into the group originally in uh 2020 and 2019, I was like 180 and I, you know, I was a 4'2 guy, uh, but every single year, like I've been getting faster and stronger.

And yeah, I just, I guess was just, you know, getting older too, just gained a lot more muscle.

The muscle maturity, and it just makes it honestly, it makes everything feel so much easier, too.

I mean, sprinkling mechanics and all that, from the block starts to everything, like, it feels so much easier.

How tall are you?

Uh, 6'2.

Okay, okay, okay.

Damn.

Yeah.

And and that's another thing i i mean i when i when i you know looking at you on television you know television television normally add size but i'm like that i i would have never i would have never guessed you are as big as you are as far as six two 190 pounds that's big for a 100 meter sprinter is it so yes yeah yeah

i guess i'm different yeah i would i was thinking like i mean

like Coleman, what's Coleman?

Like height-wise or weight-wise?

Well, height-wise, he can't can't be no more than 5-6-5-7.

Okay.

I give him

on a good day, I give him eight, but I'm thinking five, seven.

I don't know how much he weighs.

I would say maybe around like 160, 170.

Yeah.

That would make sense.

Yeah.

That's why I feel like that.

But you feel.

Like you mentioned when you got the team, Mitch, you were 180, but you feel the extra 10 pounds of muscle gave you the power to thrust out of the blocks and it gave you the

top to be able to hold it in the 200 because you were 200 special.

And a lot of times we see this: 200 specialists.

We saw

you saying, who's the 200-meter specialist drop down?

I think it was, I think also with me running the four,

I pretty much ran the four my whole life.

And then, you know, I ran 44-7 in college and then I went to Dennis' group.

And then after that, he made me run the two and the one pretty much permanently.

I think that was just, the endurance was just instilled in my my body, you know, just growing up, running long distance.

I also used to run cross-country as well, used to run some eight-line.

Yeah, so I ran cross-country in elementary all the way to what, sixth, seventh grade.

So I think once it got a little bit up and distance, I was like, yeah, this ain't for me, you know?

So I just, I just went into football and then just did track.

But I think just doing that in my development stages, that just really helped me bring that endurance and just made everything easier.

So yeah, I would say 190, 190, 192.

If I go any higher, then maybe I'll be a little too heavy.

But right now, everything feels easy.

You had a very unconventional route to where you became.

You went to a community college.

You didn't go to Texas or Tennessee or one of these powerhouse LSU, Texas AM.

That's not the route that you took.

How were you able to stay focused?

taking this route because you know most of the guys that you know

you didn't turn pro you didn't turn pro right out of high school

I mean, I wasn't, I honestly, I wasn't that fast in high school, but

I think just my mom, you know, just, you know, I'm adopted as well.

So, you know, being a young kid, being adopted at four, you know, just how to work just to be where I was.

I mean, she instilled good values in me every single day.

I mean, she's, she was a single mother adopting four kids.

Like, she, she was kind of the blueprint for me just to work hard every single day.

And,

you know, I was recruited by all the top schools schools at one point, but I was one of those kids where it was kind of like, oh, I don't really care about school.

Let me just have fun and do sports.

Didn't realize, didn't realize that, you know, hey, GPA matters when the schools want to come after you.

I mean, I think that was the question where junior year, they're like, what's your GPA?

I'm like, oh, shit.

So then, you know, I had to.

It wasn't my 40s time.

You said, what was your 40 time?

No, yours wasn't your 40 time because you had a 4-2 GPA.

You'd have been Gucci.

Yeah,

so, you know, I had to go for a junior college in the middle of Iowa called Indian Hills.

And, you know, the program,

brand new program.

Why you got a Walmart City to go run track?

How you go to Iowa to run track?

I didn't think about stuff like that.

I mean, I'm from Wisconsin, so I've already ran in the cold.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay,

yeah.

So, you know, I went to there for a year, did my thing, went pro.

And yeah, I mean, just being from an adopted kid, going into foster care, like my whole life, the route just to get here was unconventional.

And, you know, I give thanks to my mom on why I was able to, you know, be here where I am today and accomplish my dreams.

That's dope.

So when it finally does happen, you beat Noah in the 200.

I mean, what are you going to do to celebrate?

You're going to have a beer?

You're going to have a piece of cake?

I mean, what's going to, because I mean, that's, I mean, have you ever beat Noah in the two?

i mean i have but i it's the fact of hey i beat him while getting silver and somebody else got me you know so oh yeah you beat him at the liberty you're right you're right you're right yeah

he got the bronze both it's not it's not really just about beating him it's just about getting that gold medal because you know my first year at the olympics uh in 2021 here at tokyo uh you know i beat i beat him but then andre degrasse got me so it's the same with this you know it's the same with paris beat him but then tobogo got me know?

And like I said, that's why it's just kind of frustrating because I'm not focusing on just him.

I'm focusing on just that gold medal because I know what I can do, but it always seems like there's something.

And

like I said, running, running from lane eight, not saying it's an excuse, it's just, it's just tough because you're on the island.

You know, you got one person ahead of you and you just got to make sure that be mentally strong and just think about yourself.

You can't think about nobody else because you're out there running by yourself.

You're running blind.

Yeah, pretty much.

But I mean, you look at

wave van nieker when he run went into in rio he's in the farthest lane and he knows he has uh uh lashawn merit and he had what's the guy from uh

i remember watching that i don't remember his name though i just remember

he went from alabama uh oh my goodness i can't think of his name but anyway he knew they were back there and he knew those guys were sub 44 guys both had already won a gold medal in the 400

and he just took he was the last qualifier and he just took off and he ran 40 40

i had no idea i remember watching that when i was a kid i just like oh he's gonna burn out and he just kept running i said oh my gosh that was the thing he did he didn't burn out yeah he just kept going and i mean honestly that's the mentality i have when i get a lane draw like eight i'm just like hey i just gotta go all gas and just execute my race and see what happens no breaks

so after the after the uh the championships, how much time do you take off?

Are you done for the rest of the year and just start?

Because I don't think you do the indoor season.

So, now,

okay, so now when will you start back?

Okay, you're not gonna let yourself and say you say ideal shape is somewhere between 190 and 192.

Well, if you're not working out, you might get up to 195, maybe even 200.

Now, soon will you start?

I don't want to do that.

You know, I don't gain weight.

I don't gain weight like that.

I usually, so usually we have what a month and a half to two months depending on what coach wants right sometimes i'll maybe take uh a week or two more

but uh

what i do you know i do a lot of preventative stuff uh so you know i give myself a week or two just to kind of do whatever i want to do and then after that i'm in the gym or with my physio uh

uh you know just working on like strengthening small ligaments here and there because you know body's always compensating especially when we're redlining every single time for the whole year um

for vacation you know i like to go to thailand like last year or two years ago i went to sepu uh philippines i always just like to travel just see new things um you know i'm out here in tokyo right now so once you know the relay is done with i'm gonna stay here for extra three to four days go sightseeing because i i i'm not one to go out and about when we're you know in the midst of the the meet and everything um and then after that you know i got to do some some stuff back home and then i'm trying to figure out if i want to just go do a cruise but yeah, I just love to travel and just see the world.

Karani James, that's his name, Karani James.

Oh, yeah, yeah,

Grenada.

Hey, he's still, he's still running too.

Yes, went to the University of Alabama.

He won the NCA championships in the 400 meters.

Turned pro LaShawn Merritt.

Won the, I think, LaShawn won in 08.

He won in 12.

Van Niekirk won in

16.

And Fast Stevie

from the Bahamas.

yeah uh but it's so it's so hard i mean why is it so hard for 400 meters to repeat because if you go back and look at it michael johnson is the only one to double up no no other man has ever won back-to-back 400 meter titles why is it so hard for men to repeat the 400 meters i mean you're you're seeing the times right now there's always somebody that's coming up coming into the fold somebody else that's running 43 seconds running 43 fives or whatever i mean you got these botswana kids like yeah chippy chippy just ran 43 five where did he come from

hey there's just a lot of talented people in the world and you know they just need the right coach and right program so these kids are finally finding the right uh circumstances the right system and all that and they're ready to go and they you know uh

i mean that's why it's hard i mean even look at this 200 i i think this is the fastest 200 i've ever been in it is you know it is

You know, when Bolt was running, what, it was him, maybe one other person, and everybody else is not running that fast.

Now we got four, four or five guys guys are running under some 12 i think this is the most time the most that we've had guys under i think what 19 7 you had four guys that run yeah in one race

yeah sub 19 7.

we've never had that many runs so i mean we had four we had two guys on the 19 on the 196 and we had two guys on the 197 so we had four guys that run sub 19 seven which is which like you said unheard of i mean you get

go ahead like i said this

shoes are getting better surface are getting better training programs are getting better you're finding finding the right talents.

Like, there's a lot of training on this road.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And, and you're getting the right, because a lot of things have to go right.

Um, I was talking, we had MJ on Melissa, and we were saying she had the right people in the race to go really fast.

And she gets a, if she gets a plus one tailwind, she's going sub 10-6

because she got Alfred in there.

She got Tia Clayton.

She got Tina Clayton.

She got Talou Smith in there.

So she has the people.

You need the competition.

You need a track.

And you need conditions.

She had everything except the conditions.

If she get a plus one, she's going to sub-10-6.

Yeah, it's over with.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Melissa, she's been putting in so much work.

I mean, from seeing her last year into going to this year, yeah, she's gotten stronger.

She got way stronger.

Mechanics, everything has gotten so much better.

It's just awesome to see what she's done this year.

And I definitely feel like, you know, she can repeat this.

You know, it is hard to do it, but she's one of those athletes that can repeat and be a double champion again.

Man, I want, man,

I mean, I wish it was 2027.

I wish we had the Worlds and then next year with the 27 because it's, I mean, to

stay on top.

It's hard because like you said,

you got 200 countries and you got some 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old that we ain't even heard of yet.

And all of a sudden, they pop up out of this.

That's why it's important.

You got to find the right people.

I mean, for me, I invest so much in my body.

I mean, you got people, you know even with tobogo you know he he was olympic champ last year this year he didn't come out with anything and you know there's just a lot of things that you need to do in order to stay on top i mean i got a physio a massage therapist chiropractor you know i invest in a lot of my body i mean i got a cold plunge sauna at my house red light therapy like it's a it's a lot of hard work yeah i mean i'm looking at the uh the women and the hurdles Hell, where did kombucha come from?

How's she like that?

She's always been there.

But I mean, look at what we got.

We got Russell, we got Stark, we got all them.

I family like, damn.

Yeah, I mean, the women's hurdle has always been tough.

I mean, you go watch the Diamond League, there's always three or four of them in that race.

So they never get a break.

And

it's hard.

I don't know if we've ever had a repeat champion.

in the women's hurdle because you get one and then the next year, boom, here comes somebody else.

And then here comes somebody else.

I mean, you had Joanna Hayes and you had Don Harper and then you come up Breonna Rollins, and then you get

Camacho.

I'm like,

hey,

that's what makes track inciting because you don't know what's going to happen.

Except when it came to the 100 meters back from 2008, 12, and 16, we knew.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It wasn't.

It wasn't.

Who got a he show up?

Who got second?

Who would get the silver?

You already know.

You know.

Yeah, he's just looking like, all right,

who's going to win?

Did you ever get a chance to race against both?

Nah, nah, I'm too young.

Way too young.

So when he retired, 2017, I didn't become a pro until 2019, 2020.

Oh, you'll be stupid.

Yeah, because I'm only 26.

Oh, you got some good years left.

You about a year and a half away from prime.

So you should be real good by the time 28 roll around.

It's in L.A.

Hey, that's perfect.

It's LA.

Look, and they ain't coming back.

Last time they was in LA was 1984.

So

that

home soil.

We need some home cooking, Kenny.

We need home soil.

That's the perfect time.

Well, I'm expecting you.

All I know is I'm going to be watching 2026 Ultimate Championships.

Are they going to be normal races like they normally would be?

You know, what is the Drake and the SAC?

So they're going to be.

i would i would say yeah uh you know drake drake relays i actually like going to that but usually when they have that i i'm always overseas running somewhere um but yeah they're they'll have that mount sack you know still diamond league like all those things are going to be there i still we think i still think we have our nationals as well so that will be going on so we have a full season of a lot of meets and everything else uh so like i said i time wise I'm just focused on just

I'm focused on just executing my race next year.

And time goal wise, I got what you're looking at for 100 meters.

What do you, what, what's what's what's your goal?

What's your goal for the 100?

What's your goal for the 200?

Uh, so how I felt this year and what I was doing at practice.

Um, you know, I was talking to my coach, I definitely could have ran 9-7 mid or 9-7 low.

So I feel like next year, if, if, you know, coach it wants to do it with me, I feel like I want to go after that American record for the 100 meters.

968?

It's 69.

Well, you got to run 968.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, true.

Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Have you been under 98?

Yeah, I went 979

at our trials.

Yeah.

Do you understand how

Kenny?

I understand it.

But like I said.

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um with the shape that i'm in right now and the practices that i've had recently like leading up to the hundred and that's why it stung so much more for me when i didn't cross the finish line even getting a medal because of my you know mishabs you're right i could have done something dangerous and now i got to wait two years but i'm just like hey screw it.

You know, if coach wants to do this next year, you know, that's one of the goals that I want to hit because I definitely feel like I'm capable of doing it.

I finally have a start.

That took about what, four, four years.

I mean, my teammates were kicking, teammates were kicking my ass for four years straight in the blocks.

It was so bad to where we were just like, hey, man, screw the blocks.

Let me just do the workout right now and just roll y'all up.

Like, that's what I wanted

because they were embarrassing me.

But, you know,

I feel great.

And every rate, even, even running the 985 in the semifinals, like that's the easiest 985 I ever ran.

You know, no, no tensing up or anything.

So I knew that the finals, I could have done something crazy.

And then obviously you guys saw what happened, had a late reaction.

And then

I'm like, well, damn, Kenny.

Yeah.

That wasn't a meter reaction.

Yeah.

Like I said, it just, I let it slip away.

And that's why it stung so much more because I knew that I was in really good shape.

So now I got to wait.

You ran 979.

Where do you feel you can make up that kind of time?

Because that's a lot of time.

From 979 to 968, that ain't no step.

That's more than a step.

For me,

where are you going to make up your time at the start,

the transition?

Deceleration?

It's in the start.

So usually in the 100, especially when I get up, you just stay relaxed and just hold on to what I build up.

So for me, it's in the first, you know, 20, 30, 40 meters.

If I can set up perfectly, then I can get it.

Man, you train with Christian.

Can't you get that start?

Can't you let that rub off on you?

It has actually.

I mean, that's why my,

that's why my, that's why the start has actually been way better.

I mean, the addition to having him also with the other teammates of mine,

it just really helped.

Like something just clicked this year.

And then, hey, I finally got a start.

And that just built confidence.

And, you know, going to Grand Slam as well just really helped.

I just really needed reps in the 100 because that was the biggest thing that I was lacking previous years.

Like I was like, hey, can I get in 100?

And it's like, nah, you're a 200 guy.

Let's run it too.

So I'm like, oh, damn, this is like my 10th 200 of the year.

Let me get in 100.

So this year really helped me out just to kind of understand the mechanics.

You know, I think also just being older and just maturing as an athlete, actually understanding what my coach was trying to teach me the previous years, everything just started to just make sense, became way easier.

And like I said, I'm confident that, you know, I can get around that area next year.

But that's, that's what coach wants to do, if that's what coach wants to do, because I know everything's about a plan.

You know, you could go crazy next year, but then you got, you know, another world championships in the Olympics.

So, you know, if it's not part of his blueprint, then we'll see.

How different is the training from 100?

I would assume that 100, you're doing 150s and twos.

So for a two, are you doing 250s, threes?

How different is the training?

Depends on the coach.

For us in particular,

if we're training for a 200, you know, we do like 250s, 300s, 150s, 120s, a lot of speed work uh

and then he's he's he's wearing he wants to hone uh make us hone on the technical side of the of the race because like okay you can build build all this speed but it don't mean anything if you're not technically you know sound so um when it comes to the 100 you know 60 80s

60 80s 60 80s just a lot of 60 80s and then 120s um

but i mean it's working like every coach is different you know another coach can say something completely different but that's what we do a lot of sled training as well.

We do a lot of 1080 stuff.

Like we do, we do a bunch of stuff.

Wow.

And weight training.

Plyos, a lot of snacks, a lot of cleans, a lot of partial squats, a lot of box jumps.

I mean, a lot of explosive stuff because you can't be explosive if you don't train explosive.

Yeah, it's like stuff like that.

I mean, you know.

I can't give too much detail.

It'll get mad.

I got you i got you man kenny thanks for your time man appreciate it good luck tomorrow bro it's been a while since we had we've been atop the uh the podium on the global stage and and and the relay man

don't let us down kenny don't let us down yeah i said we got you we we got a good squad we've been practicing hard we got we'll get it done

y'all hear that jamaicans do y'all hear that don't be bad don't be bad because we're about to get both of them.

Sweet steaks.

Men and women.

American flag.

I got to find me American flag tomorrow because I'm going to be flying it.

Hey, I've been suffering, but kid, I ain't going to lie.

And they're going to hate me.

I'm a worst winner.

They hate you.

They do.

They do.

When y'all win this wage tomorrow, I will give them something to hate.

All right.

I will count on it.

Kenny Beneric, silver medalist in back-to-back Olympics and in the world championship.

Kenny, congratulations.

Good luck, Tamara.

Come back and talk to us again soon, man.

All right.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me on.

Appreciate you, man.

All right.

Bye.

Oh, Joe.

Do we got graphics for this?

We got a new game.

Our newest games, our newest segment is back.

It's called Play of Fade.

It's presented by Prize Picks, and this is how it works.

The Nightcap staff has made a slip of their picks, and we either play their slip or make some changes, choosing more or less.

See, I felt pretty good.

I got two are right, two of us right.

So let me see what we got here.

Jordan Love, more won 1.5 touchdown passes.

Well, Lamar Jackson threw for like 12, so he gonna have at least two more, 0.5, more, more, more.

You like that?

You like that, Ocho?

Because you cost me last time because you told me James Cook was going to have, oh, yeah, he gonna have like 30 yards

receiving and didn't.

Well, I mean,

they didn't have to, but most of the time, they didn't.

Bro, tried to win money.

You talking about they didn't have to.

I mean, no, well, we don't know what the game plan is, but most of the time, he catches the ball out the backfield as well.

So I thought that that would have been a smart play.

That would have been a smart play.

I'm betting money.

I'm trying to win money.

I'm trying to win 5,900 that you owe me.

So I'm trying to do stuff to get that.

Okay, okay.

I see.

I see what you see.

How about this here?

B.

John Robinson, more than 110.5 rush yards and receiving yards combined against Carolina.

Absolutely.

Come on now.

Okay.

Elcho say go more.

Tyler Warren, 47 and a half receiving yards against Tennessee.

That's the tight end from the Colts.

Hey, listen, the way Danny Dimes is dishing, man.

The way Danny Dimes is dishing,

what you think?

I'm going to

damn

you ain't got no you ain't got no confidence in 17 over there with the with the horseshoe on the helmet

okay

all right all right I'm gonna go okay yeah Jake Elliott more than 1.5 field goal against the Raiders they're playing the Raiders

no that's the Rams

Rams Jake Kelly that's the Eagles right

one point oh yeah yeah, for sure.

Absolutely.

He going two, two, two,

two, two, two.

I'm taking a staff slip.

But I tell you what, y'all better be right on.

The only one I'm really concerned about is Tyler Warren, the 47 and a half receiving yards.

But I.

I got to go against you, Ocho.

My gut tells me to go against you.

See?

One thing, one thing you never do.

Never bet against the house.

Oh, you the house now?

I'm the house.

Never bet against the house.

Well, when the house going to pay some money, my money.

When the house going to pay my money.

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Oh, Joe, Atlanta Falcons Cup kicker.

Young Way Cool, after seven years with the team, signed new starter Parker Romo to a two-year deal.

And Arnold Cole, the fans have asked us to bring the viral clip with Coach Prime and the pronunciation of his name back.

Y'all did be dirty, Ocho.

Hey, that was classic, bro.

But y'all had to be holding me.

Hey, listen.

Here's the clip.

I don't think they can hear it.

Young Hoku Hoku kicks the five

over the fake.

What?

What's that?

Young way.

Young way.

Young way.

No, he ain't what you said, dog.

I said, young Hoku.

No, you can't.

That's not their name.

What's his name?

Who are you talking about?

The kicker for the five.

What's the name?

Young

Young Way.

Don't try to take that, though.

You gotta stop that.

Oh,

but look, how it was.

Hold on.

How's it spell?

Hey, Joe.

How to spell young?

How they spelling young.

No, they don't spell it young like we spell it.

They, I think they spell it why

you.

So, how you know how to spell that and you know how to spell over?

No, I know.

She

asked better.

Oh, this is young ho coup.

But you said, oh, no,

you said young ho.

That's what he said, didn't he?

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Hold on.

You have a flashback.

Oh, oh, okay.

Okay, what is this spell?

Y-O-U-N-G-H-O-E.

Who wrote that for you?

Ain't nobody.

There ain't nobody's name.

That's ain't nobody's name, dog.

That is nobody's name.

That is nobody's real name,

and you're gonna say it.

That ain't nobody's name.

Oh, Joe, that is

nobody's name spelled like that.

You know, there ain't nobody's name spelled like that.

Actually, that is his name.

That's the way it's that it's pronounced Young Way.

Why you say young way?

But it's spelled

because, no, she put it on there as Young Way.

But if you go look at it, it's Y-O-N-G-H-O-E.

G-H-O-E don't don't make that sound.

Go.

Go.

Go.

That makes it go.

There you go.

See, man, you're not saying that.

You're always saying you got flashbacks.

You got to stop that, though, man.

The Falcons defense of special teams make big plays and thrilling wins.

Oh, I know what you're talking about two weeks ago.

I ain't know what you're talking about, dog.

No, you did.

No, you did.

Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.

Edible.

Hey, that was classic.

Man, that's time for our final segment of the evening.

It's time for Q.

And hey.

Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.

That's fun.

We're going to be able to listen listen to 10 years from now and still laugh the same way.

Y'all got jokes, huh?

Yeah, that was fun.

We'll have had facts.

Can we show Ocho skateboard video, please?

Well, that was from years ago.

You saw that?

You when that skateboard flew out from under your ass?

I saw that.

Hey, it was so long ago, but

I can actually skate.

Now, I compete.

I compete.

I'd be at the skate park and all that.

Astral said, Anga Nocho, when y'all weren't partying or outside in college, what do you guys do?

Love the show.

Much love.

Well, I ain't party.

I still.

I went to one party in four years of college.

I was in my room reading GQ, thinking about what I was going to be doing in four years, five years, what my NFL career is going to look like.

That's what I was doing.

Doing homework.

Yeah.

And honestly, for those that know me, those in the chat, if you follow me long enough, as long as I've been on social media, you know I don't party.

You know, I I don't club.

You know, I don't drink.

Gaming.

High school, gaming.

College, I was gaming.

Yeah, I just, yeah, part of the clubbing, I don't drink.

So therefore, I don't want to be around people that do drink because people that drink, they like to have conversations.

They be talking about stuff.

They'll start three conversations.

I'm like, and I don't want to, I ain't interested in none of them.

In none of it.

I just, nah.

And then the music be too loud and then people step on your shoes.

and cry i don't i don't i don't like that yeah i mean obviously you couldn't party during the season because you was in your room.

They had bread check on Friday and then Saturday game.

And so once the season was over, I mean, I got a girlfriend my junior year and senior year.

So we went to once the season was over, we'd go to the movies.

You know, I had a little bread, Ocho, you know, I'd go off camper, you know, get in my little room.

Yeah, you know, I was, you know, bro, make sure I was straight, but I was not a partier, my man.

Kevin Norwood Jr.

said, Uncle, I can't believe Ocho got an iPhone 17.

Hold on.

Ocho got a got an iPhone 17, but won't pay you a $5,900.

Next time you're in Dallas for a bottle siding, I'm coming to see.

Ocho.

Who got an iPhone 17?

You did?

I didn't.

Let me see it, Ocho.

Hold your phone up.

My phone.

I don't got no.

Hey, huh.

Let me tell you something.

I was eligible for an upgrade.

I still had the iPhone 12.

Oh, Joe.

I had the iPhone 12.

So I eligible.

Chat, I need y'all to tell chat.

What should I do to Ocho?

Chad, come on, chat.

Y'all keep on saying, man,

man, let Ocho live.

Ocho trying to get an endorsement deal.

What that got to do about $5,900?

Listen, you're not listening to me.

I done had the iPhone 12 for the longest.

So

I went to go pay my cell phone bill.

And they told me about

me being able to, oh, you got to upgrade.

You haven't got a new phone in a long time.

Like, well, you mean I ain't got to pay nothing?

So they say, yeah, if you pay your phone bill,

you can switch out the phone.

So I ain't really pay nothing.

Yeah, you pay something.

You got to pay X about a dollar.

You get an upgrade, but you got to pay for it.

No,

I had the iPhone 12.

I went from the 12 to the 17.

I didn't have to pay nothing.

You got to pay something.

Yeah, I had to pay my phone bill.

My phone bill was like $120.

No, you're going to have to pay $100 because they put the new upgrade in your phone bill.

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

that's not, that's not yeah, it's extra $20, $30 a month.

That's okay, Ocho.

I mean, chat, chat,

chat, as you start a poll,

what should Uncle do to Ocho after Ocho refuses to give him his money?

I'm not, I'm not refusing.

I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm waiting for my money to get right.

Hold on, you done got LV track suit, you done got a new iPhone, you done got all this new stuff, you got a new house, you got all this stuff.

Me,

i got i got you huh i got you serial p say can we get a shout out to ocho's college quarterback jay smith and my daughter's michigan state spartans as we battle usc tonight at 11.

go green

wait that game ain't start yet

yeah it should have started yeah jonathan smith that's my high school quarterback

He coaching?

Yeah, he the head coach of Michigan State.

Is he?

Yeah,

yeah.

He left Oregon State.

Now he's at Michigan State.

Well, I didn't know that.

Congratulations.

Oh, Joe, Tornado's Green.

Who goes O's and three?

Who goes 0-3 tomorrow?

Who goes 1-2?

0-3.

I guess you're looking at the Chiefs.

Wait, who possibly?

They play the Giants.

Who else hasn't won a game yet?

Oh, it can get ugly for the Chiefs, boy.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

You taking the Chiefs to go one and two or 0-3?

Hey, honestly, I mean, Mahomes going to figure it out.

I don't see them going to 0-3.

And if they go to 0-3, is it time to hit the panic button?

I don't know.

Do you hit the panic button with a quarterback like Mahomes and what he's done in the past?

I don't know.

I don't know.

That's a good one.

That might be the best game of the day honestly that might be the best game of the day

who else had won a game that we were suspecting to win a game goddamn colts the colts play tomorrow yeah they play tennessee that's who i want to see i mean if colts tennessee is really not an exciting game that the game that people want to see i want to see if god goddamn daniel jones is for real or is it a situation like baker mayfield or a situation like um sam donald you know sam donald goes to minnesota all of a sudden all world baker mayfield goes to Tampa Bay all of a sudden, all world.

It's just the right situation.

I want to see if the Indianapolis Coach just happened to be the right situation for Daniel Jones.

It might be.

That's what it is.

But guess who else had that exact situation?

Anthony Richardson.

Better had that exact situation.

Yeah, you're right.

And guess who had that exact situation that JJ McCarthy got, that Sam Donald, J.J.

McCarthy?

Jason said, What's up, Ugginocho?

My birthday is tomorrow.

Can I get a shot?

I also go Cave.

Yes, Jason, happy birthday.

Happy birthday, Twin.

Enjoy.

Spend it with family, friends, and loved ones.

Tell them you love them.

Hopefully, they tell you they love you and you got something real nice.

Dr.

Frankie L.

Bellamy said, Hey, fam,

that shea by Laporte is so smooth.

From now on, you should be known as the Kanyak King.

You're welcome.

Thank you, Doc.

I appreciate the support.

You've been supporting Nightcap, Club Shea Shea, and Laporte.

All things.

84.

We appreciate that, Doc, because you've been one of the very first ones to follow Nightcap.

You've been a mod for a long time.

And every time Ocho and I show up,

Atlanta, you were here in Atlanta.

You was here

at New Orleans.

You came to the very first one in Las Vegas.

So, Doc, Ocho and I, the Nightcap family, we can't thank you enough.

We appreciate the support.

Ocho.

Yo.

Here's a skateboard video.

This is Ocho on the skateboard.

Yeah, this is old.

I forgot what year this was, too, huh?

You see, I got you see that.

You see, I got my cigar in my mouth, too.

See, I can skate.

No, you can't.

No, I mean, no, no.

I mean, I mean, I can skate for real.

I mean, I can skate for real.

I was just trying to,

I was trying to do some damn trick, and the cigar in my mouth is the reason why I failed.

What's that trick?

Go ahead, Rob.

Ocho.

Gosh.

I was good though.

I was good.

I was good, though.

I was good.

But see, the funny thing, that's about,

that might be six, seven years old.

Now, now, you know, I rided a skateboard down here in downtown Miami.

Oh, Joe.

Six or seven years later, it still hurt.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.

I'm good.

I'm a real skater, though.

I do everything.

I do everything.

You a real something.

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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The Miami Hurricanes throttle, the Florida Gators, 26 to 7.

Billy Meyer, Billy, excuse me, Billy Napier is really, really on thin ice.

He's going to have to get this thing turned around if he wants to stay head coach of the University of Florida.

Yeah, I'm Unk.

He's Ocho.

Ready for tomorrow.

Tomorrow night.

I'm ready for tomorrow night after Sunday night football.

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