Best of Track World Athletics Championships Part 1: Fred Kerley goes OFF on USADA + Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone setting records

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All right, Ocho, we got a very, very special guest joining us.

This guy has done something that very few track and field men in the track and field game has ever done.

He's one of the few men that has run sub 44 in the 400 meters, run sub 19.8 in the 200 meters, run sub 980 in the 100 meters.

He's a world champion in the 100 meters.

He's an Olympic silver medalist in the

100 meters.

And I think he won the, he's on the world relay uh relay team here he is ladies and gentlemen fred curly fred what's going on

i think you're mute fred

can you hear me yeah we got to die

what's going on

chilling chilling chilling can't complain

uh Let's start with this.

You watched Ced today,

4778.

Two women.

I mean, think about it.

You had to go to get on, basically to get on, you got to run one of the 10, 11 fastest times ever for a woman just to get on the podium.

How impressive what you saw Sid do?

Basically, she said this year, I'm done with the hurdles.

I'm not doing the hurdles.

I'm focusing on the fourth flat.

And her sole purpose is to take that world record down many thought was untouchable.

How impressive, how impressed are you with what she's doing, Fray?

I think it's crazy.

It's something that I have not done and been done in 39 years and to have somebody great as her to accomplish that is amazing.

And I feel like she still can go faster.

She's just still young in just the open four.

Her babies are the 400 hurdles, but it's no telling what she can do in the open four.

I feel like she can go even below what she did.

I feel like she's still young at it.

Her body's still young.

I feel like she can do some, still can do some amazing stuff in that open 400 meters.

You believe she can go sub 47.5?

I feel like she can go faster than that.

I feel like, yo, it's Sydney we talking about.

Yes.

Yo, so she got, she got talent that I don't think no woman on this earth have got or no woman have discovered yet.

I feel like

she's amazing.

So every time she touches track, it always have been a world record in her

young days.

So I feel like the sky is the limit.

And I feel like

she's still got.

a lot more in the tank.

I feel like that 47 where she ran was just chill mode, really.

When you look at it, Fred, I think a part of it, because they're talking now that maybe, and Bobby, Bobby Kersey, he coached Flojo, Gail Deavers.

Gail Deavers was a two-time Olympic 100-meter champ.

We know what Flojo is.

We don't need to say anything.

Valerie Briscoe at the time, she married hooks, and now she's Valerie Briscoe hooks.

She was the first to do the double, the 4-2.

in 84 in LA, last time the Olympics were in L.A.

Guess what?

In 28, the Olympics are going to be in LA.

Could you see Bobby Kersey going to the Olympic committee and says look we want to do something unprecedented i feel like they can do unprecedented is the 4-4 i feel like she always can do anything but hey if the the the time frame presentable i feel like any and no telling what um the olympic committee can do for any of us right

right

you watch i mean i i don't know how much of the are you watching the uh the world the world championship I watch YouTube University or Twitter University.

I get all the news when everything come on them channels.

I I've not watched it live.

How surprised are you with the way Oblique Seville has run this year, ended up winning the world championship the 100 meters?

He caught Kushane.

Kushane always gets a great start.

I was surprised how

easy Seville made it look.

Noah got the bronze, but Noah didn't have a whole lot of races.

Handicap what you saw and what you think happened.

I don't think I was so much surprised about the race.

He's been showing it since I raced him in Jamaica.

It's all about peaking at the right moment.

A lot of athletes have not raced in September.

They end their season in August each year.

So every time you end your season early, you don't get that extra boost.

And what I saw in the 100 meters, I feel like he was always capable of doing it.

He just ended up shorthanded.

And this year he showed what it was.

And for Noah, I feel like I don't think he was so much concentrated on 100 this year.

I think he was so much concentrated on the 200.

He lost the 200 last year.

And I feel like he wanted his revenge.

The 200 is baby.

I feel like he wants the 200 more than 100.

Yeah, I think so, too.

To be a four-time, I mean, he's already three-peted, so now he wants the four, something that no man on the track has ever done.

Well, you say, I think Usain has done four

200.

He got DQ'd and I think he got DQ'd and

that was just 100.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, let's let's talk about you.

Yes, sir.

You had a whereabout violation that you was possibly contesting.

I don't know if you're still going to contest.

I'm still contesting.

I ain't did not wrong.

So my people are still fighting for all that.

Okay.

But they said you're the first, if I'm not mistaken, track and field athlete to be a part of the enhanced games.

Yes, sir.

And enhanced means break a world record with the enhancing.

I mean, obviously on the protocol,

if you're trying to fight to say, well, you know what?

I did nothing wrong.

This was just a whereabout.

I mean,

I'm sorry I didn't give you, say, I was in Miami and I was supposed to be in LA or or I was in the Bahamas and I was supposed to be over here.

Why would you take this deal?

Why would you do the enhanced game?

Come text me.

You know what I'm saying?

Come text me.

I'm not tripping.

You can come to my house any second, any minute, any hour.

Come text me.

I'm not worried about no mistakes, no nothing.

Come text me.

I've been clean my whole entire career.

You should come text me.

Only thing about signing up to this game, make money, protect my future.

Equity is everything.

Ownership is everything for me.

And they did exactly the job.

I got ownership.

and a lot of track athletes when they get done with this sport they don't got nothing to go home to i've been to two olympic games and been world champion right so it's for me my understanding is i i don't i got i got family to feed

right i'm going home you know what i'm saying guess what if i go call somebody ask to tell me give her 200k go get a job i ain't never had no job you know what i'm saying only thing i know is my feet running run you know what i'm saying so nobody gonna tell me how to make money and protect my my family my bloodline depending on me i'm the first one make it out and my my whole job is continue to if i make a hundred million dollars i'm gonna continue to make a hundred million dollars each and every year so my whole job is protect my bloodline

so explain to me tell me this for so tell me how the whereabouts do you okay so you give them locations of where you're going to be they call you or do you put something in right at the beginning of the year it says okay this is my i have a residency here in texas i have a residency in florida and i have x y and z so how do the whereabouts whereabouts, how does this work?

So whereabouts is basically we fill it out each quarter.

They got to know all your location.

They got to know if I'm here, where they got to know everywhere.

So

basically every quarter, you fill out where you're going to be.

But the problem with that, you never know where you're going to be.

Life is life.

So it's just like.

You just got to give them an hour.

They come after hours sometimes.

They come when they want to.

Simple as that.

So basically for me, it just feels like I'm in prison.

My dad been in jail.

My dad been to prison.

He's still on parole.

He don't got to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain a paycheck.

Hey,

hey, Fred, basically, that's the same thing with us in the offseason, huh?

It don't matter where you are.

They'll always have where you're at.

Yes.

Man,

I don't like that.

It don't matter.

Hey, Fred, right, remember one offseason?

It might have been after that 2005, 2006 season.

It didn't matter where I was.

Yo, but you know,

the with

football and track, y'all still maintain y'all contract.

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

We don't, no, no.

Oh, so, so, in other words, you gotta,

once you get it, you get, you get no money.

Like, USATF uh spend my medical stuff.

So, what you, what's you, what's somebody like me to like, I'm gotta go get money regardless.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, we don't get nothing.

Like,

track, track and field not paying me, sponsorship paying me.

Okay, you know what I'm saying?

So,

any of your endorsements?

I don't got no endorsements.

So, what people talking about is make money at all costs and protect my kids.

Wow.

So, I don't care what, yo, I don't care what nobody says.

They're not feeding none of them.

They're not even feeding me.

So, let me ask you this: you said you want a chance to push your limits.

So, you say they can come test you now.

You know, if you take part of this, uh, Fred,

you're probably going to get a lifetime ban.

Yo, yo, guess it.

Hey, guess what?

It's soon happening.

Go on, do what you got to do.

Hey, just like they got people, I got people, and I'm blessed, and I'm highly favorable of the man above.

I like it.

Do you think if you were to go ahead and take this process,

how do you think Fred Curly is going to be remembered?

Because like I said, Fred, there's not a whole lot of men.

I mean, you an NCA champ.

You went to

the 400.

I'm still in the testing.

I'm still in a testing pool.

Okay.

I'm still in the regular government body testing pool.

Okay.

So let me ask you a question.

Do they do blood?

They do blood and urine.

They do both.

I just got a piss test today.

I'm not tripping.

Yeah.

You're going to be good.

You're going to be good.

You're going to be good.

You see the problem?

I feel like the problem is they're scared to pay the athletes.

You know what I'm saying?

So

they can't control us when you're trying to make other forms of income.

You know what I'm saying?

So if they can't control what you got in your pocket, how did it sell them that you got the coaches and stuff making more than the athletes?

Wow.

You got agent making more than the athletes.

You got president making more than the athletes.

They protecting the athletes.

You got athletes that can't get sponsorship.

You got athletes that working the job to maintain their livelihood.

Yeah.

So at the end of the day, it's protecting myself because they don't care about me.

It don't matter how much money I make with endorsements.

That stuff end.

Right.

And without endorsing,

we're not surviving.

Right.

So let me.

So

what's routine pay for a diamond league?

They say, well, Fred, we want you to come contest the 100 meters.

What does a Fred curley get?

What does it got?

Obviously, you saying both with a special circumstance.

I feel like

every year has been different.

Everything been like, I can't tell you on a day-to-day or

it's whatever the meat got or whatever the meet um think is the main event of that championship oh okay okay so i can't like every every meet is not the same right like only thing that might be the 100 it might be the hurdles it might be the 200 it might be the 400 okay

i'm an american so america look different for europeans okay Like, we got to live.

You know what I'm saying?

Nobody coming to, nobody coming to my rescue and ask me if i got this or got that like nobody care like they people gonna live on their regular life if i go go dead broke right now if i if i go oh no i don't got it so it's protect my future protect my kids you know what i'm saying my legacy my legacy i did everything in this sport i'm still doing everything in this sport

so let me ask you this you still you say you're still in you're still in the testing pool so now you you didn't go to the worlds so

are you still training so what so what what is it now what what do you do now because basically i don't know if there's anything after the world and so the season basically over do you are you getting ready for next are you gonna do an indoor season so world so world so i i i'm not i'm suspended right now previously suspended so they i'm still because texting correctly okay yeah so i'm not basically banned as yet but they suspended me for competition Okay,

so, right, my lawyer's fighting, fighting that.

So, right now, I I forever be training.

I'm an so you just never stop doing what you do just because of this.

You never know.

You always got to be prepared for what's what's coming.

Fred, let me ask you this.

Why did you, I mean, you're a great 400, you're great, you, you were a great, you was on pace to be one of the greatest 400 meters.

What made, what made you decide to go to the, what made you decide to drop down and do the hundred?

See, like the, um,

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2019 actually changed everything.

My coach left me in 2019 to go get a degree overseas.

2020, I was without a coach.

2021, I was without a coach.

Until like a couple of, and that's when I moved to Miami and started training with Coach Joey.

And I was still doing 400 training, but a 400 training, you got to have somebody there just to push you.

The 400 just started getting boring.

And then all of a sudden, I'm just like, let me just try this.

My ankle got rolled and stuff.

And then I was running on the hurt leg.

And that's when

God blessed me.

I said, I don't know what's next.

And then that's when the 100 just came.

I ran 100 at a meet, I mean, a track meet in Florida.

And that's when the repetition started becoming easy.

And that's when I dropped my first nine.

I'm like, I'm going to the Olympics.

Yeah, I'm running the 100 at the Olympics this year.

And a lot of people questioned me around me.

Even my coach questioned me at the time.

But at the end of the day, I'm always going to believe in myself, my self-ability.

I won't get into something if I know I'm not going to be good at it.

Because

it's rare.

Now, we see people do the four, drop down down to the two because of the strength training.

So you're really good.

We see people do the two, drop down to the hundred.

I think,

what was the guy?

He went to LSU, Xavier.

He won the 400, 100.

Yeah.

He won the four and the one and the SEC at LSU.

And so he's having a problem.

So

I don't know if I've ever seen anybody do what you've done, but it's the times that's most impressive.

To go sub 44, to go sub 19.8, to go sub 9.8.

But for me, do you know anybody else that's ever done that?

Oh, yeah, I do.

Besides yourself?

No, I don't know nobody.

But for me, it's just like,

it's all about people telling me, I can't.

I hate the word, I can't.

That will make me want to do it even more.

Oh, you can't do this.

You can't do that.

Oh, like, I heard that plenty of time when I'm younger, so that's why I'm going to go do it.

And every time somebody say I can't, I've been successful.

and hey you know what i'm saying so i can't complain about what god gave me in my heart to do he pushing me to greater things so when somebody say i can't that's when i'm gonna do it just like i would moss on uh ocho sinko right now whoa whoa whoa whoa

hold on hold on hey um hey um

you know why he ran sub 44 right well you chased him Nah, ask him who he trained with.

Yo, that was, yo, these came to the track like one or two times.

that's who we trained with huh he came drinking hey flew by flew by him

started he started training for bots and because i beat him so bad

hey hey flew by he was like i didn't know you was that fast to be this old i was like yeah i'm like that

so if this

if this band is lifted

I don't think there's anything next year, but the USA's and then there's the Worlds in the 27, and then you got the Olympics in 28.

so what's what is your immediate plans i'm still running i'm i'm still running i got a salary okay yo i i got a salary i got equity in the company so i'm still running and still run freely you know i'm saying you can't people can't deny me on my success like like i said i ain't really missed no tests all the track uh miss tests i missed i would add a track meet

okay

so i i'm not caring about none of what people say but people gotta go into the details and stuff.

See, they're not popping people on drugs.

They're popping people with whereabouts.

So they're not really doing their job.

And guess what?

I got drug tests the next day after the mistest.

I'm not caring about no mistest.

I know

what's really going on.

And we explain to them too.

Just because I'm a mirror.

Just because I'm.

Go ahead, Fred.

Go ahead.

Sorry to cut you off.

Go ahead.

Just because, like,

I had a rough year and and I can't complain.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's just like,

just got to do better.

Is it a situation?

They don't give you a heads up.

They just need you.

So they call you, say, an hour before the other.

It's no cause.

Oh, they just pop up.

Yeah, there's no cause.

None of that.

They gotta, they gotta

see at least they let us know.

It's none of that.

It's none of that.

That's not fair.

That's not fair.

It's none of that.

see the problem is tracking fill are not making no money that's how they make their money the the

that's why ufc dropped them

yeah the drug test yeah yeah the out of test so they said they so they're not really doing their due diligence and stuff with everything

you i heard you keep saying americans americans do you feel that this system is set up to catch americans while other countries possibly because everybody don't test like that like the american get

right now I feel like um we live in a time where um

that people like the OGs and stuff back in the day fucked it up for us sorry for cussing but they messed it up for us okay how so

you already know just the OGs messed it up for us like okay so I don't I don't I don't I don't care about getting tested you can test me every day every minute of the hour So it's just like the OGs mess it up for us.

So in other words, it's like those guys were like, well, I wasn't there there, and I'm sorry.

And so, that's why they put the whereabout clause in because when they wanted the test, guys said, Well, I was over here, I was over there.

So, now they make y'all every quarter.

So, every three months, you guys got to feel like, Well, I'm going to be in Miami, I'm going to be in LA, I'm going to be in Texas, I'm going to be in Georgia.

No, you got to give them every address.

If I go out to eat, I got to put that address in.

Like, right now, I got to put this address every minute.

They can show up.

Oh, no, come on, now they're doing too much.

Now, y'all ain't know me.

Yo, I'm telling you, that's not happening.

It's like we in prison, like you gotta, every hour, everywhere you go, you gotta do the training block, you gotta give them an hour.

If you leave the house, go down the street, hey, they gotta know everything,

and that's what people don't realize.

Like, I don't, yo, you can come and test me anytime, but like filling this stuff out every minute, every second, it's just like, bro, y'all doing too much that invading privacy and stuff, too.

When we go overseas, we got to fill out every minute, every second, everywhere.

You know what I'm saying?

Everywhere you go.

If I go to a funeral right now, they got to know where I'm at at the funeral.

People popping up at restaurants to test us.

People popping up at airport to test us.

Damn.

So it's basically like we in a plantation.

Wow.

And the outside world don't know what's actually going on.

Because you got people that actually own the stuff, but never getting caught because they're getting paid off.

You got active cases right now in track and field that USADA and water is not doing nothing about

because they're getting paid off.

Damn, that's a pretty strong accusation, Fred.

There's no accession.

The facts is the facts.

Simple as that.

And they know it.

They got cases going on right now.

You can come and test me any day of the week, and I'm not tripping.

I can show you my, my, my, my, yo, we get us every time we do a drug test, stuff come to my phone.

Negative, negative, negative negative i'm not tripping

have you thought about transitioning to football you won't get it tested as much no i baseball is guaranteed money fred you ain't played baseball in 20 years you ain't finna hit no people i've been playing yo i don't got the yo yo i can play what you go fred what position you gonna play for it center field

You know they hitting center field, right?

Yeah, and

yo, you know my speed.

I know how to catch.

You can, can, hey, I know you here somewhere in this county where I'm at.

You can come check me out.

Hold on, you can, you can hit the ball.

Yes, I can hit the ball.

You're in Miami?

No, I'm not in.

I'm not in Miami.

I'm talking to the Uncle.

I was gonna say, let's go to the batting cage

this weekend.

Oh, you're gonna be here?

Yeah.

Oh, you know, I was, I was a 5-2.

Like, you know, they would try to draft you.

Yeah,

you're good at everything.

No, I promise.

I promise.

You know, the Marlins tried to draft me in 97 out of high school.

Y'all, y'all florida y'all florida guys y'all gotta stop now for real cred that's like when i beat you when we was out there training like you was like

i know i know one of the greatest runners in american hit i know you ain't letting this man come up the street and beat you fred i did yo you talk about ocho hey he thinks he good at everything you see he thought he was about to get a soccer ticket too look at him you think he's good at everything man

be honest unc right here now i didn't i didn't beat you when we ran 250s i ain't never did no 250 in training in years.

So what are you talking about?

What we was doing that day?

What were we doing?

I think, what, 150?

We were doing something.

I don't remember.

What were we doing?

I ran it with you.

I don't know.

What were we doing?

I blew by your ass.

I know that.

I just want to know what we're doing.

I can't remember.

Hey, we lined it up this weekend.

Oh, hey, I got my camera ready.

Well, bring your camera out.

I've been training.

I don't, you've been training?

Hey, you just, I train every day.

Yeah, you probably be like your glasses wopsided when I get done with you.

Okay, okay.

Keep that same energy.

Matter of fact, I feel so good, I give you five meters.

Huh?

Huh?

If you go hunting.

What you running?

I give you 99 meters and we going 100 meters.

What you running, Ojo?

You want him at a 40?

You want 40, 60, 100, 200, 400?

You know what?

I don't want to handicap him.

I want to give him a chance to actually try to catch up.

So

we'll go 80 meters.

80 meters?

How much?

yo the first four the first the first 60 you done you ain't ain't no chance the first you can't even beat to

hey that's my dog that's my dog you can't beat to

that that's my dog but listen i'm a different horse i'm a different thoroughbred

i'm the fact i i beat you you are a world-class athlete you're a world-class sprinter and i smoked you

And I'm just being honest in front of the people.

The world needs to know.

The world needs to know that you're the biggest cap in the history of sports.

I ain't even got no,

I got a cap right here.

That's about it,

Fred.

We're gonna get you out of here on this one.

Handicap the 200 for us.

You got a you got uh uh Noah, the Jamaican ran really good today.

He broke it down, but he looked really good.

And then you got obviously you got tobogo, you got Kenny Beneric.

How you see the podium?

The The podium.

I feel like Noah's going to take it.

Tobogo second and Jamaican third.

Wow.

Wow.

But I believe somebody's injured in

out of three of them.

So I don't know.

Three of them look injured, but hey, you never know.

You could tell they're injured just by watching?

Yeah, I'm an athlete.

Like a track athlete.

So you can tell, like, you can tell if people uh forcing their runs and stuff, too, right, right.

Ah,

so

those, those are four people gonna be on the podium, regardless, but you never know, right?

Right, so you think, you think, and you, I think, noah is gonna, noah's gonna take it because I feel like he got something to prove and because what happened last year, but you never know.

Tobogo is sneaky, motherfuck

man noah came out with the shorts today i don't think i've ever seen noah running shorts noah normally runs in the singlet now noah's would be running the shorts but i feel like he got something to prove so he does i feel like feel like we're gonna see some some nasty stuff in tokyo in a couple of hours wow so you think you think he's still seething from losing that 200 in the Olympics getting the bronze because he really wants to go i mean the gold medal i think the gold but like you said the 200 is his baby.

And he has yet to get the medal.

He stands atop of the podium at the Olympics.

And so he's like coming back.

Look here.

Toboco.

Yeah, he's got something to prove.

Like he got something to prove.

And definitely in

the deuce.

I feel like he got something to prove.

And I feel like he's going to show the world what Noah's always been Noah.

So I feel like he got something to prove in it too.

Toboco always sneaky.

He probably is probably faking like he got injured and just show up.

What kind of time do you think you're looking at?

If he's going, I mean, the 19-50, he ran 1951, which was the world lead.

I feel like they're going 1950.

I feel like

they're going to be between 19-3 and 19-7.

I feel like you're going to be something fast.

Wow.

Wow.

You're going to be something fast.

And I won't be surprised 19-2, but I feel like 19-3 to 19-7, those are going to be the winning times.

You think they're in that kind of condition?

I feel like, hey,

that's his last race of the year.

He did what he got to do, and they got some of them probably jaws, some of the races.

I feel like history always be determined when championship comes.

The real dog comes at the championship, and no approval over years.

He always shows up.

So he probably gonna show up.

How you like the women?

Sharika Jackson looked good.

She ran 20, 21.99.

You got MJ.

Melissa Jefferson, a wood.

I feel like Melissa

is going to win the 200.

Hey,

she set some people up this year.

So,

I can't, like, my one is like, that's her.

You know what I'm saying?

The other two, Sharika, probably be on the podium.

And the third, I don't know about the third because it's all over the place.

Because, you know, we got some faces that fighting just to run some of them times in the semifinal.

Right.

All right.

Fred, thanks for joining us tonight.

We wish you the best of luck in your appeal of the suspension.

Whatever your endeavors are, we wish you the best of luck, man.

Stay healthy and come back and join us soon.

Yes, sir.

Appreciate it.

Appreciate you, bro.

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After nearly two decades, 19 years, Sonia Richards Ross held the American record in the 400 meters at a time of 48.70.

On the exact same day,

19 years ago, 19 years later, Sydney McLaughlin took it down.

In the semifinals of the World Track and Field Championship, McLaughlin clocked 4829.

I think that's off ashes, the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th, but it is the fastest time by an American.

She took 0.41 seconds off the American record.

Sid says she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that.

That's a blistering time.

And she backed it down at the end.

Yeah.

Maybe I'm the only one alive that remember when Mattarina Coke set the world record of 47.60.

There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub-48.

Krachalova, who is an 800-meter runner, Ocho,

she ran 47.99.

And then Coke ended up running 4760.

And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two.

Now,

NASA has been down there.

I think she's 48.11.

I think Paulino, who's actually in this race, I think she's run like 48.17.

Marie Jose Perette, the French lady, she's back-to-back Olympic champ.

She also won uh the 200 in atlanta she won the four and the two

um i'm trying to think who else has been a low time they had this russian brazina um she ran on the uh the the 88 team i think she was the one that held flojo off if i'm not mistaken on joe my memory serves me correct um they've been a few uh kathy freeman

um

There have been some great 400-meter runners.

Valerie Briscoe, Hook, Kathy Freeman, Peret, Nasser, Paulino, Coke, Crachalova, but Sydney McLaughlin.

And she said something very interesting.

She said, Look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 47, 60.

Because I don't think, I don't think, understand what people understand

just how fast that is for a woman.

That's booking.

You literally, she's gonna, they're gonna, you're gonna probably have to go out in 22 seconds

and come home in

25, 25, 5.

Let that sink in.

Because normally they're going out in 23 and try to come home in 25.

She's going to have to go out in 22 and come home in 25 and a half.

She's got the people in the race that could push her.

Nasser takes the pace out.

Paulino liked the track.

She played with fire there and almost didn't make it.

But we'll see what her look.

Sydney's fitness is impeccable.

I believe it's going to take low 48, 48, oh, or they might have to dip under 48 in order for it to win this gold medal.

Yeah.

When is that race?

Well, I think it's today already over there.

Well, today, well,

it'll be

today for us, tomorrow for us, because I think they're a day ahead of us.

Yeah.

So it'll be Thursday, so it'll be Friday for them.

So, yeah.

I mean,

man.

And she told Lewis she wasn't expecting that.

Because, you know, normally, Ocho, I'm doing just enough to win to qualify, get the third lane.

And then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer.

But to run 48.29 and take 4-1.41

off the American record,

she was cruising, OJ.

She was cruising.

She was cruising.

And see, this is why

Femke,

Bo, the Dutch runner, can't beat in the hurdles.

She ain't got the foot speed.

She ain't got the foot speed.

Right.

I mean, what you gonna do?

What were you gonna do with someone that

can run 48 seconds?

I mean, it's gonna be very impressive.

If she abandoned

the hurdles and sets her sight in 28 in the open four,

and she gets the world record

in the four and the hurdles.

Yeah,

Lord.

Because I didn't think, I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this coach record.

This record is 40 years old.

I felt that, oh, I mean, nobody's come close.

There's only been two women in the history that's ever run sub-48.

So, what made, and no, and nobody's come close like

NASA ran 48-11, but she got popped.

Right.

So, like, uh,

um,

Perette, when she ran, when she ran the French runner, when she, she's a double 400, there ain't been a whole lot of women to double up.

I think

Shawnee Milawibo, I think she doubled up also.

Um,

but Ocho, that's booking.

That is booking.

Very.

And I think people really don't understand how fast it is.

And in reference to you saying booking, unless you watch track, unless you know track.

Or you ran track and realize how hard it is to run,

how hard it is to run a 50-second lap unless that's a special.

To run 49?

To run 48 for a woman?

Yeah.

And then we talk about 47.

If CN break this world record, that record might be like both.

You might have to go three, four, five, about three generations before you see somebody break that record.

Or somebody see you break it again.

Because I think that's what's going to happen with both

because we haven't seen we haven't seen anybody come close.

The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johan Blake at 968.

He's at 958.

Hey,

well, Boat was moving in that.

I still believe, Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing,

right?

Hitting his chest, he's he's low, he's low 950, he might even go sub-950.

He broke the moment.

Guys, he's light years in front of everybody.

I just, I just, I just wish he, I just wish, but he was so happy to understand the moment.

I just wish he had ran through the tape.

I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time would have never been broken.

Nobody's ever, you're going to have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you.

That's the one or two things.

You owe a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.

One of them.

That's the other.

But said,

she's in she's in phenomenal shape

and and I think it's going to take a special time.

I think it's going to be 480

or sub.

I don't think I think the world record's safe.

Me personally, I think the world record is safe.

But I do think 480

or maybe a tick under 48 is doable.

I think it's doable.

And then I think

I think over the next, you know, could she possibly double?

They're going to have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson.

Valerie Briscoe Hooks was, I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks.

I forgot she was a great.

She was the first person to pull the double to 4-2.

And she did it in 84.

So we've had Chandra Cheeseboro.

We've had some great runners in the 400.

But hold on.

We got a great 400 runner right now in the family.

Oh, your daughter?

Yeah, Raya.

Yeah.

I hope.

I hope you're watching.

You see what Sid is doing.

She had, you know,

Kentucky.

Oh, your daughter runs from Kentucky too.

Yeah.

Yeah, she's up there.

Yeah, she had been in Kentucky.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She better be watching.

Well, I think the head coach when Sid went with Edric Floral.

I think he's at the University of Texas now.

I think so.

I think, if I'm not mistaken,

I think he's at UT now.

But Sid's booking.

Ash, it's it's the seventh fastest, not the 11th fastest, correct?

It's the 11th fastest?

Nah.

I'm going to disagree.

Because 47.60, 47.99, 48.14, 48.17, 48.25.

Marie Jose Pereck, 48.27, Olga Brazinka, and Sidney McLaughlin, number seven at 4829.

So I don't know where they get this from.

The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 4863

at the Olympics in Atlanta.

So

we're going to disagree with, we're going to disagree with USA Today or USA Tracking Field.

Yeah.

I would disagree.

The 11th fastest, hold up.

They say it's the 11th fastest time in history.

How?

Pull it up.

Pull it up.

Pull it up, Ash, right quick.

Google it.

Because something ain't adding up.

I hope they ain't threw men in there.

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

So what they're doing, if she ran more than one time under the time, under Sears time, they're counting that.

Okay, okay.

So I was just.

uh,

wow.

Yeah, but look, I'm gonna leave that alone because we know what the

system that the East Germans and the old Soviet had in place.

But let's leave that alone.

Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.

Hey, we'll leave that alone, Ocho.

Okay, okay.

The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person, because Coke ran two,

she ran 48.16 twice and she ran 48.22.

So she got

four of the top fast seven times

in the country.

Gold medal in the 110-meter hurdles.

Grant Holloway's trying to four-peat Ocho has come to an end.

Cordell Tensch.

Who did I say, MJ?

Who did I tell?

I got Cordell Tens.

Ran $1,299.

Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, $13.08.

Tyler Mason, Jamaica, $13.12.

Richard, the Japanese runner, ran 13.18.

Jacoby Tharpe ran 1331.

So

it stays in the house.

It ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.

Hold on, what?

Flamingo, what place he came to?

He didn't make it to the finals.

It's been a rough year.

I don't know if he's injured.

I don't know what he's dealing with, but he didn't even make the finals.

Yep, he was a three-time world champ three consecutive times, and he didn't make the finals.

Yep.

And the 15 Hernanders, Isaac Nader, Portugal, 334.10.

Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 334.12.

Reynolds Chariot, Kenya, 334.25.

Timothy Chariot, Kenya, 334.50.

Neil Larios, the Netherlands, 334.52.

Robert Farkin, Germany, 335.

Josh Kerr was dealing with Inger Britson.

I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it.

Cole Hawker got disqualified for jostling.

And Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, he dealt with a foot.

He's dealing with a calf injury or something.

He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.

Man's long jump, the girl, the goal went to Forrelani of Italy, 839 meters, beat Carl Lewis at the record as the youngest long jump world champ in history.

To Tyjay Gale, Jamaica, 834.

Shi Yoha, China, 833.

So, damn.

And the pole ball, Mondo Duplantis, a new world record, Ocho, six meters, 30.

He breaks the world, he breaks the world record for the 14th time.

Hey, that's that's crazy because you know, you know, I used to pole bolt now.

I used to, huh?

Yeah.

Damn.

Manolo.

Carolis.

What was the recording?

630 meters.

That's over 20 feet.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I did about 17 feet.

Boy, my junior year.

The former world record holder, Renee Lavalani,

was in last place.

He was in eighth place at five meters, 75.

He's the former world record holder.

And Sam Kendricks of the U.S., 595,

finished just, just, just off the podium.

Dang.

Boy, I remember them days, boy.

I was scared to pull it.

And the shot putt, Ryan Krauser in his first meet, he's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season, but he came in, and when he needed to be great, he was 22 meters, 34 for gold.

Munez, Mexico, 2197, silver.

Leonardo

Fabri, Italy, 2194.

Tom Walsh of the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand, excuse me, he was 21.94.

But we,

but it's unbelievable what Crowley was able to do.

I mean, just think about Ocho.

The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the World Championship.

Yeah.

And he uncorks 122 meters and 34 on his fifth throw.

The greatest shot putter

in the history.

He won three consecutive world championships.

He's won three consecutive gold medals.

Obviously, he's getting good gear up.

Probably, I don't know what you do.

They only got the USAs next year, and then they got the world championships in 27.

And then you got

the Olympics in 28.

He's relocating.

His wife's a doctor.

He's moving to Nashville.

I think she got a job at Vanderbilt.

I think they're relocating from Texas or Oregon.

Yes.

They didn't force you when you was in high school to run track?

I ran track.

So

you ain't do the feel of it?

I i did i was a triple jump a long jump through the discus

okay i i did i did shot putting i did povo i ran four by one four by four 100 200 i ran the 1500

uh yeah i won the uh i'm a three-time state champ in the triple jump i won the best performance trophy uh the farthest jump in the state meet my senior year I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated in the state track meet, in the state track meet

in my classification.

My junior year.

Yeah, I ran track, Ocho.

I was pretty good.

Got recruited by a lot of schools.

I still got my technique though.

Nah, your legs too close together.

No, my furniture white.

I can't kick my furniture, man.

But congratulations to all the winners.

Ryan Krauser gold medal.

Yes.

And Cordell Tinch.

Unbelievable.

We keep the gold here.

We go keep that gold medal here.

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