Best of Track World Athletics Championships Part 1: Fred Kerley goes OFF on USADA + Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone setting records
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest moments from the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo! Unc & Ocho sit down with 100m World Champion Melissa Jefferson-Wooden and Olympic medalist Fred Kerley, plus react to Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone’s historic 400m record-breaking performance.
0:00 - Fred Kerley Joins the show
28:03 - Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone sets American record
38:49 - Cordell Tinch wins 100M Hurdles
39:46 - Isaac Nader wins 1500M
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Speaker 32 All right, Ocho, we got a very, very special guest joining us. This guy has done something that very few track and field men in the track and field game has ever done.
Speaker 32 He's one of the few men that has run sub 44 in the 400 meters, run sub 19.8 in the 200 meters, run sub 980 in the 100 meters. He's a world champion in the 100 meters.
Speaker 32 He's an Olympic silver medalist in the
Speaker 32 100 meters. And I think he won the, he's on the world relay uh relay team here he is ladies and gentlemen fred curly fred what's going on
Speaker 32 i think you're mute fred
Speaker 32 can you hear me yeah we got to die
Speaker 32 what's going on
Speaker 32 chilling chilling chilling can't complain
Speaker 32 uh Let's start with this. You watched Ced today,
Speaker 32 4778.
Speaker 32
Two women. I mean, think about it.
You had to go to get on, basically to get on, you got to run one of the 10, 11 fastest times ever for a woman just to get on the podium.
Speaker 32
How impressive what you saw Sid do? Basically, she said this year, I'm done with the hurdles. I'm not doing the hurdles.
I'm focusing on the fourth flat.
Speaker 32 And her sole purpose is to take that world record down many thought was untouchable. How impressive, how impressed are you with what she's doing, Fray? I think it's crazy.
Speaker 32 It's something that I have not done and been done in 39 years and to have somebody great as her to accomplish that is amazing. And I feel like she still can go faster.
Speaker 32
She's just still young in just the open four. Her babies are the 400 hurdles, but it's no telling what she can do in the open four.
I feel like she can go even below what she did.
Speaker 32
I feel like she's still young at it. Her body's still young.
I feel like she can do some, still can do some amazing stuff in that open 400 meters.
Speaker 32 You believe she can go sub 47.5?
Speaker 32
I feel like she can go faster than that. I feel like, yo, it's Sydney we talking about.
Yes.
Speaker 32 Yo, so she got, she got talent that I don't think no woman on this earth have got or no woman have discovered yet. I feel like
Speaker 32 she's amazing. So every time she touches track, it always have been a world record in her
Speaker 32
young days. So I feel like the sky is the limit.
And I feel like
Speaker 32
she's still got. a lot more in the tank.
I feel like that 47 where she ran was just chill mode, really.
Speaker 32 When you look at it, Fred, I think a part of it, because they're talking now that maybe, and Bobby, Bobby Kersey, he coached Flojo, Gail Deavers. Gail Deavers was a two-time Olympic 100-meter champ.
Speaker 32
We know what Flojo is. We don't need to say anything.
Valerie Briscoe at the time, she married hooks, and now she's Valerie Briscoe hooks. She was the first to do the double, the 4-2.
Speaker 32 in 84 in LA, last time the Olympics were in L.A. Guess what? In 28, the Olympics are going to be in LA.
Speaker 32 Could you see Bobby Kersey going to the Olympic committee and says look we want to do something unprecedented i feel like they can do unprecedented is the 4-4 i feel like she always can do anything but hey if the the the time frame presentable i feel like any and no telling what um the olympic committee can do for any of us right
Speaker 32 right
Speaker 32 you watch i mean i i don't know how much of the are you watching the uh the world the world championship I watch YouTube University or Twitter University.
Speaker 32 I get all the news when everything come on them channels. I I've not watched it live.
Speaker 32
How surprised are you with the way Oblique Seville has run this year, ended up winning the world championship the 100 meters? He caught Kushane. Kushane always gets a great start.
I was surprised how
Speaker 32
easy Seville made it look. Noah got the bronze, but Noah didn't have a whole lot of races.
Handicap what you saw and what you think happened. I don't think I was so much surprised about the race.
Speaker 32 He's been showing it since I raced him in Jamaica.
Speaker 32 It's all about peaking at the right moment.
Speaker 32
A lot of athletes have not raced in September. They end their season in August each year.
So every time you end your season early, you don't get that extra boost.
Speaker 32
And what I saw in the 100 meters, I feel like he was always capable of doing it. He just ended up shorthanded.
And this year he showed what it was.
Speaker 32
And for Noah, I feel like I don't think he was so much concentrated on 100 this year. I think he was so much concentrated on the 200.
He lost the 200 last year. And I feel like he wanted his revenge.
Speaker 32
The 200 is baby. I feel like he wants the 200 more than 100.
Yeah, I think so, too.
Speaker 32 To be a four-time, I mean, he's already three-peted, so now he wants the four, something that no man on the track has ever done. Well, you say, I think Usain has done four
Speaker 32 200.
Speaker 32 He got DQ'd and I think he got DQ'd and
Speaker 32
that was just 100. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 32
Okay, let's let's talk about you. Yes, sir.
You had a whereabout violation that you was possibly contesting.
Speaker 32 I don't know if you're still going to contest.
Speaker 32
I'm still contesting. I ain't did not wrong.
So my people are still fighting for all that. Okay.
Speaker 32
But they said you're the first, if I'm not mistaken, track and field athlete to be a part of the enhanced games. Yes, sir.
And enhanced means break a world record with the enhancing.
Speaker 32 I mean, obviously on the protocol,
Speaker 32
if you're trying to fight to say, well, you know what? I did nothing wrong. This was just a whereabout.
I mean,
Speaker 32 I'm sorry I didn't give you, say, I was in Miami and I was supposed to be in LA or or I was in the Bahamas and I was supposed to be over here.
Speaker 32
Why would you take this deal? Why would you do the enhanced game? Come text me. You know what I'm saying? Come text me.
I'm not tripping. You can come to my house any second, any minute, any hour.
Speaker 32
Come text me. I'm not worried about no mistakes, no nothing.
Come text me. I've been clean my whole entire career.
You should come text me.
Speaker 32
Only thing about signing up to this game, make money, protect my future. Equity is everything.
Ownership is everything for me. And they did exactly the job.
I got ownership.
Speaker 32 and a lot of track athletes when they get done with this sport they don't got nothing to go home to i've been to two olympic games and been world champion right so it's for me my understanding is i i don't i got i got family to feed
Speaker 32 right i'm going home you know what i'm saying guess what if i go call somebody ask to tell me give her 200k go get a job i ain't never had no job you know what i'm saying only thing i know is my feet running run you know what i'm saying so nobody gonna tell me how to make money and protect my my family my bloodline depending on me i'm the first one make it out and my my whole job is continue to if i make a hundred million dollars i'm gonna continue to make a hundred million dollars each and every year so my whole job is protect my bloodline
Speaker 32 so explain to me tell me this for so tell me how the whereabouts do you okay so you give them locations of where you're going to be they call you or do you put something in right at the beginning of the year it says okay this is my i have a residency here in texas i have a residency in florida and i have x y and z so how do the whereabouts whereabouts, how does this work?
Speaker 32
So whereabouts is basically we fill it out each quarter. They got to know all your location.
They got to know if I'm here, where they got to know everywhere. So
Speaker 32 basically every quarter, you fill out where you're going to be. But the problem with that, you never know where you're going to be.
Speaker 32
Life is life. So it's just like.
You just got to give them an hour. They come after hours sometimes.
Speaker 32
They come when they want to. Simple as that.
So basically for me, it just feels like I'm in prison. My dad been in jail.
Speaker 32
My dad been to prison. He's still on parole.
He don't got to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain a paycheck.
Speaker 32 Hey,
Speaker 32
hey, Fred, basically, that's the same thing with us in the offseason, huh? It don't matter where you are. They'll always have where you're at.
Yes.
Speaker 32 Man,
Speaker 32 I don't like that. It don't matter.
Speaker 32 Hey, Fred, right, remember one offseason? It might have been after that 2005, 2006 season. It didn't matter where I was.
Speaker 32 Yo, but you know,
Speaker 32 the with
Speaker 32
football and track, y'all still maintain y'all contract. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
We don't, no, no. Oh, so, so, in other words, you gotta,
Speaker 32
once you get it, you get, you get no money. Like, USATF uh spend my medical stuff.
So, what you, what's you, what's somebody like me to like, I'm gotta go get money regardless.
Speaker 32 You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't get nothing. Like,
Speaker 32 track, track and field not paying me, sponsorship paying me.
Speaker 32 Okay, you know what I'm saying? So,
Speaker 32 any of your endorsements? I don't got no endorsements. So, what people talking about is make money at all costs and protect my kids.
Speaker 32
Wow. So, I don't care what, yo, I don't care what nobody says.
They're not feeding none of them. They're not even feeding me.
Speaker 32
So, let me ask you this: you said you want a chance to push your limits. So, you say they can come test you now.
You know, if you take part of this, uh, Fred,
Speaker 32
you're probably going to get a lifetime ban. Yo, yo, guess it.
Hey, guess what? It's soon happening. Go on, do what you got to do.
Speaker 32 Hey, just like they got people, I got people, and I'm blessed, and I'm highly favorable of the man above.
Speaker 32 I like it.
Speaker 32 Do you think if you were to go ahead and take this process,
Speaker 32
how do you think Fred Curly is going to be remembered? Because like I said, Fred, there's not a whole lot of men. I mean, you an NCA champ.
You went to
Speaker 32 the 400. I'm still in the testing.
Speaker 32
I'm still in a testing pool. Okay.
I'm still in the regular government body testing pool. Okay.
So let me ask you a question. Do they do blood? They do blood and urine.
They do both.
Speaker 32 I just got a piss test today.
Speaker 32
I'm not tripping. Yeah.
You're going to be good. You're going to be good.
You're going to be good.
Speaker 32 You see the problem? I feel like the problem is they're scared to pay the athletes. You know what I'm saying? So
Speaker 32 they can't control us when you're trying to make other forms of income. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 32 So if they can't control what you got in your pocket, how did it sell them that you got the coaches and stuff making more than the athletes?
Speaker 32 Wow. You got agent making more than the athletes.
Speaker 32 You got president making more than the athletes.
Speaker 32
They protecting the athletes. You got athletes that can't get sponsorship.
You got athletes that working the job to maintain their livelihood.
Speaker 32 Yeah.
Speaker 32 So at the end of the day, it's protecting myself because they don't care about me.
Speaker 32 It don't matter how much money I make with endorsements. That stuff end.
Speaker 32 Right.
Speaker 32 And without endorsing,
Speaker 32 we're not surviving. Right.
Speaker 32 So let me. So
Speaker 32 what's routine pay for a diamond league? They say, well, Fred, we want you to come contest the 100 meters.
Speaker 32 What does a Fred curley get? What does it got? Obviously, you saying both with a special circumstance. I feel like
Speaker 32 every year has been different. Everything been like, I can't tell you on a day-to-day or
Speaker 32 it's whatever the meat got or whatever the meet um think is the main event of that championship oh okay okay so i can't like every every meet is not the same right like only thing that might be the 100 it might be the hurdles it might be the 200 it might be the 400 okay
Speaker 32 i'm an american so america look different for europeans okay Like, we got to live. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 32 Nobody coming to, nobody coming to my rescue and ask me if i got this or got that like nobody care like they people gonna live on their regular life if i go go dead broke right now if i if i go oh no i don't got it so it's protect my future protect my kids you know what i'm saying my legacy my legacy i did everything in this sport i'm still doing everything in this sport
Speaker 32 so let me ask you this you still you say you're still in you're still in the testing pool so now you you didn't go to the worlds so
Speaker 32 are you still training so what so what what is it now what what do you do now because basically i don't know if there's anything after the world and so the season basically over do you are you getting ready for next are you gonna do an indoor season so world so world so i i i'm not i'm suspended right now previously suspended so they i'm still because texting correctly okay yeah so i'm not basically banned as yet but they suspended me for competition Okay,
Speaker 32
so, right, my lawyer's fighting, fighting that. So, right now, I I forever be training.
I'm an so you just never stop doing what you do just because of this. You never know.
Speaker 32 You always got to be prepared for what's what's coming.
Speaker 32 Fred, let me ask you this. Why did you, I mean, you're a great 400, you're great, you, you were a great, you was on pace to be one of the greatest 400 meters.
Speaker 32 What made, what made you decide to go to the, what made you decide to drop down and do the hundred?
Speaker 32 See, like the, um,
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Speaker 32 2019 actually changed everything.
Speaker 32
My coach left me in 2019 to go get a degree overseas. 2020, I was without a coach.
2021, I was without a coach.
Speaker 32 Until like a couple of, and that's when I moved to Miami and started training with Coach Joey. And I was still doing 400 training, but a 400 training, you got to have somebody there just to push you.
Speaker 32
The 400 just started getting boring. And then all of a sudden, I'm just like, let me just try this.
My ankle got rolled and stuff. And then I was running on the hurt leg.
And that's when
Speaker 32
God blessed me. I said, I don't know what's next.
And then that's when the 100 just came. I ran 100 at a meet, I mean, a track meet in Florida.
And that's when the repetition started becoming easy.
Speaker 32
And that's when I dropped my first nine. I'm like, I'm going to the Olympics.
Yeah, I'm running the 100 at the Olympics this year.
Speaker 32
And a lot of people questioned me around me. Even my coach questioned me at the time.
But at the end of the day, I'm always going to believe in myself, my self-ability.
Speaker 32 I won't get into something if I know I'm not going to be good at it.
Speaker 32 Because
Speaker 32
it's rare. Now, we see people do the four, drop down down to the two because of the strength training.
So you're really good. We see people do the two, drop down to the hundred.
I think,
Speaker 32 what was the guy? He went to LSU, Xavier. He won the 400, 100.
Speaker 32 Yeah.
Speaker 32
He won the four and the one and the SEC at LSU. And so he's having a problem.
So
Speaker 32 I don't know if I've ever seen anybody do what you've done, but it's the times that's most impressive. To go sub 44, to go sub 19.8, to go sub 9.8.
Speaker 32 But for me, do you know anybody else that's ever done that? Oh, yeah, I do.
Speaker 32 Besides yourself?
Speaker 32 No, I don't know nobody. But for me, it's just like,
Speaker 32
it's all about people telling me, I can't. I hate the word, I can't.
That will make me want to do it even more. Oh, you can't do this.
You can't do that.
Speaker 32 Oh, like, I heard that plenty of time when I'm younger, so that's why I'm going to go do it.
Speaker 32 And every time somebody say I can't, I've been successful.
Speaker 32 and hey you know what i'm saying so i can't complain about what god gave me in my heart to do he pushing me to greater things so when somebody say i can't that's when i'm gonna do it just like i would moss on uh ocho sinko right now whoa whoa whoa whoa
Speaker 32 hold on hold on hey um hey um
Speaker 32 you know why he ran sub 44 right well you chased him Nah, ask him who he trained with. Yo, that was, yo, these came to the track like one or two times.
Speaker 32 that's who we trained with huh he came drinking hey flew by flew by him
Speaker 32 started he started training for bots and because i beat him so bad
Speaker 32 hey hey flew by he was like i didn't know you was that fast to be this old i was like yeah i'm like that
Speaker 32 so if this
Speaker 32 if this band is lifted
Speaker 32 I don't think there's anything next year, but the USA's and then there's the Worlds in the 27, and then you got the Olympics in 28.
Speaker 32 so what's what is your immediate plans i'm still running i'm i'm still running i got a salary okay yo i i got a salary i got equity in the company so i'm still running and still run freely you know i'm saying you can't people can't deny me on my success like like i said i ain't really missed no tests all the track uh miss tests i missed i would add a track meet
Speaker 32 okay
Speaker 32
so i i'm not caring about none of what people say but people gotta go into the details and stuff. See, they're not popping people on drugs.
They're popping people with whereabouts.
Speaker 32 So they're not really doing their job.
Speaker 32
And guess what? I got drug tests the next day after the mistest. I'm not caring about no mistest.
I know
Speaker 32 what's really going on.
Speaker 32 And we explain to them too.
Speaker 32 Just because I'm a mirror.
Speaker 32 Just because I'm.
Speaker 32
Go ahead, Fred. Go ahead.
Sorry to cut you off. Go ahead.
Just because, like,
Speaker 32 I had a rough year and and I can't complain. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like,
Speaker 32 just got to do better.
Speaker 32
Is it a situation? They don't give you a heads up. They just need you.
So they call you, say, an hour before the other.
Speaker 32 It's no cause.
Speaker 32
Oh, they just pop up. Yeah, there's no cause.
None of that.
Speaker 32 They gotta, they gotta
Speaker 32
see at least they let us know. It's none of that.
It's none of that.
Speaker 32
That's not fair. That's not fair.
It's none of that.
Speaker 32 see the problem is tracking fill are not making no money that's how they make their money the the
Speaker 32 that's why ufc dropped them
Speaker 32 yeah the drug test yeah yeah the out of test so they said they so they're not really doing their due diligence and stuff with everything
Speaker 32 you i heard you keep saying americans americans do you feel that this system is set up to catch americans while other countries possibly because everybody don't test like that like the american get
Speaker 32 right now I feel like um we live in a time where um
Speaker 32 that people like the OGs and stuff back in the day fucked it up for us sorry for cussing but they messed it up for us okay how so
Speaker 32 you already know just the OGs messed it up for us like okay so I don't I don't I don't I don't care about getting tested you can test me every day every minute of the hour So it's just like the OGs mess it up for us.
Speaker 32 So in other words, it's like those guys were like, well, I wasn't there there, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 32 And so, that's why they put the whereabout clause in because when they wanted the test, guys said, Well, I was over here, I was over there. So, now they make y'all every quarter.
Speaker 32 So, every three months, you guys got to feel like, Well, I'm going to be in Miami, I'm going to be in LA, I'm going to be in Texas, I'm going to be in Georgia.
Speaker 32
No, you got to give them every address. If I go out to eat, I got to put that address in.
Like, right now, I got to put this address every minute. They can show up.
Speaker 32
Oh, no, come on, now they're doing too much. Now, y'all ain't know me.
Yo, I'm telling you, that's not happening.
Speaker 32 It's like we in prison, like you gotta, every hour, everywhere you go, you gotta do the training block, you gotta give them an hour.
Speaker 32 If you leave the house, go down the street, hey, they gotta know everything,
Speaker 32 and that's what people don't realize.
Speaker 32 Like, I don't, yo, you can come and test me anytime, but like filling this stuff out every minute, every second, it's just like, bro, y'all doing too much that invading privacy and stuff, too.
Speaker 32 When we go overseas, we got to fill out every minute, every second, everywhere. You know what I'm saying? Everywhere you go.
Speaker 32 If I go to a funeral right now, they got to know where I'm at at the funeral.
Speaker 32 People popping up at restaurants to test us. People popping up at airport to test us.
Speaker 32 Damn.
Speaker 32 So it's basically like we in a plantation.
Speaker 32
Wow. And the outside world don't know what's actually going on.
Because you got people that actually own the stuff, but never getting caught because they're getting paid off.
Speaker 32 You got active cases right now in track and field that USADA and water is not doing nothing about
Speaker 32 because they're getting paid off.
Speaker 32
Damn, that's a pretty strong accusation, Fred. There's no accession.
The facts is the facts. Simple as that.
And they know it.
Speaker 32 They got cases going on right now. You can come and test me any day of the week, and I'm not tripping.
Speaker 32 I can show you my, my, my, my, yo, we get us every time we do a drug test, stuff come to my phone. Negative, negative, negative negative i'm not tripping
Speaker 32 have you thought about transitioning to football you won't get it tested as much no i baseball is guaranteed money fred you ain't played baseball in 20 years you ain't finna hit no people i've been playing yo i don't got the yo yo i can play what you go fred what position you gonna play for it center field
Speaker 32 You know they hitting center field, right? Yeah, and
Speaker 32
yo, you know my speed. I know how to catch.
You can, can, hey, I know you here somewhere in this county where I'm at. You can come check me out.
Hold on, you can, you can hit the ball.
Speaker 32 Yes, I can hit the ball. You're in Miami?
Speaker 32
No, I'm not in. I'm not in Miami.
I'm talking to the Uncle. I was gonna say, let's go to the batting cage
Speaker 32
this weekend. Oh, you're gonna be here? Yeah.
Oh, you know, I was, I was a 5-2. Like, you know, they would try to draft you.
Yeah,
Speaker 32 you're good at everything.
Speaker 32
No, I promise. I promise.
You know, the Marlins tried to draft me in 97 out of high school.
Speaker 32 Y'all, y'all florida y'all florida guys y'all gotta stop now for real cred that's like when i beat you when we was out there training like you was like
Speaker 32 i know i know one of the greatest runners in american hit i know you ain't letting this man come up the street and beat you fred i did yo you talk about ocho hey he thinks he good at everything you see he thought he was about to get a soccer ticket too look at him you think he's good at everything man
Speaker 32 be honest unc right here now i didn't i didn't beat you when we ran 250s i ain't never did no 250 in training in years. So what are you talking about?
Speaker 32 What we was doing that day?
Speaker 32
What were we doing? I think, what, 150? We were doing something. I don't remember.
What were we doing? I ran it with you. I don't know.
What were we doing?
Speaker 32
I blew by your ass. I know that.
I just want to know what we're doing. I can't remember.
Speaker 32
Hey, we lined it up this weekend. Oh, hey, I got my camera ready.
Well, bring your camera out. I've been training.
I don't, you've been training? Hey, you just, I train every day.
Speaker 32 Yeah, you probably be like your glasses wopsided when I get done with you. Okay, okay.
Speaker 32
Keep that same energy. Matter of fact, I feel so good, I give you five meters.
Huh?
Speaker 32 Huh? If you go hunting. What you running? I give you 99 meters and we going 100 meters.
Speaker 32 What you running, Ojo? You want him at a 40? You want 40, 60, 100, 200, 400? You know what?
Speaker 32
I don't want to handicap him. I want to give him a chance to actually try to catch up.
So
Speaker 32 we'll go 80 meters. 80 meters? How much?
Speaker 32 yo the first four the first the first 60 you done you ain't ain't no chance the first you can't even beat to
Speaker 32 hey that's my dog that's my dog you can't beat to
Speaker 32 that that's my dog but listen i'm a different horse i'm a different thoroughbred
Speaker 32 i'm the fact i i beat you you are a world-class athlete you're a world-class sprinter and i smoked you
Speaker 32 And I'm just being honest in front of the people. The world needs to know.
Speaker 32 The world needs to know that you're the biggest cap in the history of sports.
Speaker 32 I ain't even got no,
Speaker 32 I got a cap right here. That's about it,
Speaker 32
Fred. We're gonna get you out of here on this one.
Handicap the 200 for us.
Speaker 32 You got a you got uh uh Noah, the Jamaican ran really good today. He broke it down, but he looked really good.
Speaker 32 And then you got obviously you got tobogo, you got Kenny Beneric. How you see the podium?
Speaker 32
The The podium. I feel like Noah's going to take it.
Tobogo second and Jamaican third. Wow.
Speaker 32 Wow.
Speaker 32 But I believe somebody's injured in
Speaker 32 out of three of them. So I don't know.
Speaker 32 Three of them look injured, but hey, you never know.
Speaker 32 You could tell they're injured just by watching? Yeah, I'm an athlete.
Speaker 32
Like a track athlete. So you can tell, like, you can tell if people uh forcing their runs and stuff, too, right, right.
Ah,
Speaker 32 so
Speaker 32 those, those are four people gonna be on the podium, regardless, but you never know, right?
Speaker 32 Right, so you think, you think, and you, I think, noah is gonna, noah's gonna take it because I feel like he got something to prove and because what happened last year, but you never know.
Speaker 32 Tobogo is sneaky, motherfuck
Speaker 32 man noah came out with the shorts today i don't think i've ever seen noah running shorts noah normally runs in the singlet now noah's would be running the shorts but i feel like he got something to prove so he does i feel like feel like we're gonna see some some nasty stuff in tokyo in a couple of hours wow so you think you think he's still seething from losing that 200 in the Olympics getting the bronze because he really wants to go i mean the gold medal i think the gold but like you said the 200 is his baby.
Speaker 32
And he has yet to get the medal. He stands atop of the podium at the Olympics.
And so he's like coming back. Look here.
Toboco. Yeah, he's got something to prove.
Like he got something to prove.
Speaker 32 And definitely in
Speaker 32
the deuce. I feel like he got something to prove.
And I feel like he's going to show the world what Noah's always been Noah. So I feel like he got something to prove in it too.
Speaker 32 Toboco always sneaky. He probably is probably faking like he got injured and just show up.
Speaker 32 What kind of time do you think you're looking at?
Speaker 32
If he's going, I mean, the 19-50, he ran 1951, which was the world lead. I feel like they're going 1950.
I feel like
Speaker 32 they're going to be between 19-3 and 19-7.
Speaker 32 I feel like you're going to be something fast. Wow.
Speaker 32 Wow.
Speaker 32 You're going to be something fast. And I won't be surprised 19-2, but I feel like 19-3 to 19-7, those are going to be the winning times.
Speaker 32 You think they're in that kind of condition? I feel like, hey,
Speaker 32
that's his last race of the year. He did what he got to do, and they got some of them probably jaws, some of the races.
I feel like history always be determined when championship comes.
Speaker 32
The real dog comes at the championship, and no approval over years. He always shows up.
So he probably gonna show up.
Speaker 32
How you like the women? Sharika Jackson looked good. She ran 20, 21.99.
You got MJ. Melissa Jefferson, a wood.
Speaker 32 I feel like Melissa
Speaker 32 is going to win the 200.
Speaker 32 Hey,
Speaker 32 she set some people up this year.
Speaker 32 So,
Speaker 32
I can't, like, my one is like, that's her. You know what I'm saying? The other two, Sharika, probably be on the podium.
And the third, I don't know about the third because it's all over the place.
Speaker 32 Because, you know, we got some faces that fighting just to run some of them times in the semifinal. Right.
Speaker 32
All right. Fred, thanks for joining us tonight.
We wish you the best of luck in your appeal of the suspension. Whatever your endeavors are, we wish you the best of luck, man.
Speaker 32
Stay healthy and come back and join us soon. Yes, sir.
Appreciate it. Appreciate you, bro.
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Speaker 32 After nearly two decades, 19 years, Sonia Richards Ross held the American record in the 400 meters at a time of 48.70. On the exact same day,
Speaker 32 19 years ago, 19 years later, Sydney McLaughlin took it down. In the semifinals of the World Track and Field Championship, McLaughlin clocked 4829.
Speaker 32 I think that's off ashes, the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th, but it is the fastest time by an American. She took 0.41 seconds off the American record.
Speaker 32 Sid says she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 32 That's a blistering time. And she backed it down at the end.
Speaker 32 Yeah.
Speaker 32 Maybe I'm the only one alive that remember when Mattarina Coke set the world record of 47.60. There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub-48.
Speaker 32 Krachalova, who is an 800-meter runner, Ocho,
Speaker 32 she ran 47.99.
Speaker 32
And then Coke ended up running 4760. And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two.
Now,
Speaker 32
NASA has been down there. I think she's 48.11.
I think Paulino, who's actually in this race, I think she's run like 48.17.
Speaker 32 Marie Jose Perette, the French lady, she's back-to-back Olympic champ.
Speaker 32 She also won uh the 200 in atlanta she won the four and the two
Speaker 32 um i'm trying to think who else has been a low time they had this russian brazina um she ran on the uh the the 88 team i think she was the one that held flojo off if i'm not mistaken on joe my memory serves me correct um they've been a few uh kathy freeman
Speaker 32 um
Speaker 32
There have been some great 400-meter runners. Valerie Briscoe, Hook, Kathy Freeman, Peret, Nasser, Paulino, Coke, Crachalova, but Sydney McLaughlin.
And she said something very interesting.
Speaker 32 She said, Look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 47, 60. Because I don't think, I don't think, understand what people understand
Speaker 32 just how fast that is for a woman. That's booking.
Speaker 32 You literally, she's gonna, they're gonna, you're gonna probably have to go out in 22 seconds
Speaker 32 and come home in
Speaker 32 25, 25, 5.
Speaker 32
Let that sink in. Because normally they're going out in 23 and try to come home in 25.
She's going to have to go out in 22 and come home in 25 and a half.
Speaker 32
She's got the people in the race that could push her. Nasser takes the pace out.
Paulino liked the track.
Speaker 32 She played with fire there and almost didn't make it. But we'll see what her look.
Speaker 32 Sydney's fitness is impeccable.
Speaker 32 I believe it's going to take low 48, 48, oh, or they might have to dip under 48 in order for it to win this gold medal. Yeah.
Speaker 32 When is that race?
Speaker 32 Well, I think it's today already over there. Well, today, well,
Speaker 32 it'll be
Speaker 32 today for us, tomorrow for us, because I think they're a day ahead of us.
Speaker 32
Yeah. So it'll be Thursday, so it'll be Friday for them.
So, yeah.
Speaker 32 I mean,
Speaker 32 man.
Speaker 32 And she told Lewis she wasn't expecting that. Because, you know, normally, Ocho, I'm doing just enough to win to qualify, get the third lane.
Speaker 32 And then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer. But to run 48.29 and take 4-1.41
Speaker 32 off the American record,
Speaker 32 she was cruising, OJ. She was cruising.
Speaker 32 She was cruising. And see, this is why
Speaker 32 Femke,
Speaker 32 Bo, the Dutch runner, can't beat in the hurdles. She ain't got the foot speed.
Speaker 32 She ain't got the foot speed.
Speaker 32 Right.
Speaker 32 I mean, what you gonna do? What were you gonna do with someone that
Speaker 32 can run 48 seconds?
Speaker 32 I mean, it's gonna be very impressive. If she abandoned
Speaker 32 the hurdles and sets her sight in 28 in the open four,
Speaker 32 and she gets the world record
Speaker 32 in the four and the hurdles.
Speaker 32 Yeah,
Speaker 32 Lord.
Speaker 32 Because I didn't think, I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this coach record. This record is 40 years old.
Speaker 32 I felt that, oh, I mean, nobody's come close. There's only been two women in the history that's ever run sub-48.
Speaker 32 So, what made, and no, and nobody's come close like
Speaker 32 NASA ran 48-11, but she got popped.
Speaker 32 Right.
Speaker 32 So, like, uh,
Speaker 32 um,
Speaker 32 Perette, when she ran, when she ran the French runner, when she, she's a double 400, there ain't been a whole lot of women to double up. I think
Speaker 32 Shawnee Milawibo, I think she doubled up also. Um,
Speaker 32 but Ocho, that's booking. That is booking.
Speaker 32 Very. And I think people really don't understand how fast it is.
Speaker 32 And in reference to you saying booking, unless you watch track, unless you know track.
Speaker 32 Or you ran track and realize how hard it is to run,
Speaker 32 how hard it is to run a 50-second lap unless that's a special.
Speaker 32 To run 49?
Speaker 32 To run 48 for a woman?
Speaker 32 Yeah. And then we talk about 47.
Speaker 32 If CN break this world record, that record might be like both.
Speaker 32
You might have to go three, four, five, about three generations before you see somebody break that record. Or somebody see you break it again.
Because I think that's what's going to happen with both
Speaker 32 because we haven't seen we haven't seen anybody come close. The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johan Blake at 968.
Speaker 32 He's at 958.
Speaker 32 Hey,
Speaker 32 well, Boat was moving in that. I still believe, Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing,
Speaker 32 right?
Speaker 32 Hitting his chest, he's he's low, he's low 950, he might even go sub-950.
Speaker 32
He broke the moment. Guys, he's light years in front of everybody.
I just, I just, I just wish he, I just wish, but he was so happy to understand the moment. I just wish he had ran through the tape.
Speaker 32 I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time would have never been broken. Nobody's ever, you're going to have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you.
Speaker 32
That's the one or two things. You owe a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.
One of them.
Speaker 32 That's the other.
Speaker 32 But said,
Speaker 32 she's in she's in phenomenal shape
Speaker 32 and and I think it's going to take a special time. I think it's going to be 480
Speaker 32 or sub.
Speaker 32
I don't think I think the world record's safe. Me personally, I think the world record is safe.
But I do think 480
Speaker 32 or maybe a tick under 48 is doable.
Speaker 32 I think it's doable.
Speaker 32 And then I think
Speaker 32 I think over the next, you know, could she possibly double?
Speaker 32 They're going to have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson.
Speaker 32 Valerie Briscoe Hooks was, I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks. I forgot she was a great.
Speaker 32 She was the first person to pull the double to 4-2. And she did it in 84.
Speaker 32 So we've had Chandra Cheeseboro. We've had some great runners in the 400.
Speaker 32
But hold on. We got a great 400 runner right now in the family.
Oh, your daughter?
Speaker 32
Yeah, Raya. Yeah.
I hope. I hope you're watching.
You see what Sid is doing. She had, you know,
Speaker 32 Kentucky.
Speaker 32 Oh, your daughter runs from Kentucky too.
Speaker 32 Yeah.
Speaker 32
Yeah, she's up there. Yeah, she had been in Kentucky.
Yeah. Yeah.
She better be watching.
Speaker 32 Well, I think the head coach when Sid went with Edric Floral. I think he's at the University of Texas now.
Speaker 32 I think so.
Speaker 32 I think, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 32 I think he's at UT now. But Sid's booking.
Speaker 32 Ash, it's it's the seventh fastest, not the 11th fastest, correct?
Speaker 32 It's the 11th fastest?
Speaker 32 Nah.
Speaker 32 I'm going to disagree.
Speaker 32
Because 47.60, 47.99, 48.14, 48.17, 48.25. Marie Jose Pereck, 48.27, Olga Brazinka, and Sidney McLaughlin, number seven at 4829.
So I don't know where they get this from.
Speaker 32 The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 4863
Speaker 32 at the Olympics in Atlanta.
Speaker 32 So
Speaker 32 we're going to disagree with, we're going to disagree with USA Today or USA Tracking Field.
Speaker 32 Yeah.
Speaker 32 I would disagree.
Speaker 32
The 11th fastest, hold up. They say it's the 11th fastest time in history.
How?
Speaker 32
Pull it up. Pull it up.
Pull it up, Ash, right quick. Google it.
Speaker 32 Because something ain't adding up. I hope they ain't threw men in there.
Speaker 32 Oh, oh, oh, okay. So what they're doing, if she ran more than one time under the time, under Sears time, they're counting that.
Speaker 32
Okay, okay. So I was just.
uh,
Speaker 32 wow.
Speaker 32 Yeah, but look, I'm gonna leave that alone because we know what the
Speaker 32
system that the East Germans and the old Soviet had in place. But let's leave that alone.
Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.
Speaker 32 Hey, we'll leave that alone, Ocho.
Speaker 32 Okay, okay.
Speaker 32 The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person, because Coke ran two,
Speaker 32 she ran 48.16 twice and she ran 48.22.
Speaker 32 So she got
Speaker 32 four of the top fast seven times
Speaker 32 in the country.
Speaker 32 Gold medal in the 110-meter hurdles.
Speaker 32
Grant Holloway's trying to four-peat Ocho has come to an end. Cordell Tensch.
Who did I say, MJ? Who did I tell? I got Cordell Tens.
Speaker 32
Ran $1,299. Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, $13.08.
Tyler Mason, Jamaica, $13.12.
Speaker 32 Richard, the Japanese runner, ran 13.18. Jacoby Tharpe ran 1331.
Speaker 32 So
Speaker 32 it stays in the house.
Speaker 32 It ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.
Speaker 32
Hold on, what? Flamingo, what place he came to? He didn't make it to the finals. It's been a rough year.
I don't know if he's injured.
Speaker 32 I don't know what he's dealing with, but he didn't even make the finals.
Speaker 32 Yep, he was a three-time world champ three consecutive times, and he didn't make the finals.
Speaker 32 Yep.
Speaker 32
And the 15 Hernanders, Isaac Nader, Portugal, 334.10. Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 334.12.
Reynolds Chariot, Kenya, 334.25. Timothy Chariot, Kenya, 334.50.
Neil Larios, the Netherlands, 334.52.
Speaker 32 Robert Farkin, Germany, 335.
Speaker 32 Josh Kerr was dealing with Inger Britson.
Speaker 32 I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it.
Speaker 32
Cole Hawker got disqualified for jostling. And Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, he dealt with a foot.
He's dealing with a calf injury or something.
Speaker 32 He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.
Speaker 32 Man's long jump, the girl, the goal went to Forrelani of Italy, 839 meters, beat Carl Lewis at the record as the youngest long jump world champ in history. To Tyjay Gale, Jamaica, 834.
Speaker 32 Shi Yoha, China, 833.
Speaker 32 So, damn. And the pole ball, Mondo Duplantis, a new world record, Ocho, six meters, 30.
Speaker 32 He breaks the world, he breaks the world record for the 14th time.
Speaker 32 Hey, that's that's crazy because you know, you know, I used to pole bolt now. I used to, huh?
Speaker 32 Yeah.
Speaker 32 Damn. Manolo.
Speaker 32
Carolis. What was the recording? 630 meters.
That's over 20 feet. Okay, okay.
Speaker 32
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did about 17 feet.
Boy, my junior year. The former world record holder, Renee Lavalani,
Speaker 32
was in last place. He was in eighth place at five meters, 75.
He's the former world record holder. And Sam Kendricks of the U.S., 595,
Speaker 32 finished just, just, just off the podium.
Speaker 32 Dang.
Speaker 32 Boy, I remember them days, boy. I was scared to pull it.
Speaker 32 And the shot putt, Ryan Krauser in his first meet, he's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season, but he came in, and when he needed to be great, he was 22 meters, 34 for gold.
Speaker 32 Munez, Mexico, 2197, silver. Leonardo
Speaker 32 Fabri, Italy, 2194.
Speaker 32 Tom Walsh of the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand, excuse me, he was 21.94.
Speaker 32 But we,
Speaker 32
but it's unbelievable what Crowley was able to do. I mean, just think about Ocho.
The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the World Championship. Yeah.
Speaker 32 And he uncorks 122 meters and 34 on his fifth throw.
Speaker 32 The greatest shot putter
Speaker 32 in the history.
Speaker 32
He won three consecutive world championships. He's won three consecutive gold medals.
Obviously, he's getting good gear up.
Speaker 32
Probably, I don't know what you do. They only got the USAs next year, and then they got the world championships in 27.
And then you got
Speaker 32
the Olympics in 28. He's relocating.
His wife's a doctor. He's moving to Nashville.
I think she got a job at Vanderbilt. I think they're relocating from Texas or Oregon.
Yes.
Speaker 32 They didn't force you when you was in high school to run track? I ran track.
Speaker 32 So
Speaker 32 you ain't do the feel of it? I i did i was a triple jump a long jump through the discus
Speaker 32 okay i i did i did shot putting i did povo i ran four by one four by four 100 200 i ran the 1500
Speaker 32 uh yeah i won the uh i'm a three-time state champ in the triple jump i won the best performance trophy uh the farthest jump in the state meet my senior year I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated in the state track meet, in the state track meet
Speaker 32
in my classification. My junior year.
Yeah, I ran track, Ocho. I was pretty good.
Got recruited by a lot of schools.
Speaker 32 I still got my technique though. Nah, your legs too close together.
Speaker 32 No, my furniture white. I can't kick my furniture, man.
Speaker 32
But congratulations to all the winners. Ryan Krauser gold medal.
Yes.
Speaker 32 And Cordell Tinch.
Speaker 32 Unbelievable.
Speaker 32 We keep the gold here. We go keep that gold medal here.
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