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So, Joe, I went on ahead and wore my collar shirt today.

Okay.

Make sure I keep myself professional and

I don't go to saying things that's unprofessional, you know.

So,

yeah, that's why I had to put on that's why you put on a collar shirt.

Okay.

You keeping it classy today.

Got to, got to, 100%.

100%.

you know after you know sunday i'm i'm not feeling myself you know what i mean so okay but but we'll we'll we'll get into that let's let's let's see what uh went down with this eagles uh super bowl rematch with the chiefs man okay so the chiefs obviously uh lost we know that they're now 0-2 for the first time since 2014 dude patrick mahomes starts 0-2 for the first time since his sophomore year in high school bro like that

Yes, tell me about it.

Jalen Hurst is now 3-2 against Pat,

including the playoffs, 2-1 in the regular season, brother.

What do you have to say about this, brother?

I think.

So long story short, this is not good for the Chiefs.

I didn't think they started off too well this season, obviously going on too.

But this is my thing.

This is my take on the game.

Let's just get into what I think went down.

I think the Chiefs need to start getting a run game.

They're depending too much on Patrick Mahomes to beat Patrick Mahomes.

And I know that's going to be the situation where he's going to do great things.

He's going to be able to use his legs.

He's going to be able to extend plays.

But

there's no running game.

We need to see more Pacheco.

We need to see more Kareem Hunt, more just being able to get some play action, being able to just take some pressure off of him.

So that was one of my main things there.

And then at the same time,

him and Travis Kelsey, Travis was balling.

When you're playing against, when it's good on good, when you're playing against a team like the Eagles, those little things like that, that drop in the end zone, that's not a drop.

That turned into a pick.

So that turned into, I mean, that drop was turned into a turnover.

You know what I'm saying?

Which was turning the points.

And when you give the Eagles team, which does have a run game, them being able to give the ball to Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts didn't have the numbers, didn't do extremely too well.

But when it was third and 10, when it was time, that ball to Devontae Smith on the side for him to catch that ball on third and 10, and then for them to be able to get the tush push, you know what I'm saying?

To score that, score that touchdown.

And then not giving the ball back to Patrick Mahomes.

That's the thing I love about them instead of the thing that the Ravens would do, would kick it back to him, give him a chance.

No, let's finish this here.

Our team's better than yours.

We're going to get this first down and we're going to walk out of the stadium.

He's not worried about yards.

He's not worried about how many all this.

No, I left this game and we won and y'all lost.

And we're going to get to the next stadium.

So that's why I rock with the Eagles big time, not getting the ball back to the Chiefs.

But then with the Chiefs, when you're playing good on good, you're going to, you can't make turnovers like that.

But I think at the same time, you need some run game.

I mean, Patrick Mahomes needs some help there where you do have Pacheco, you do have Kareem Hunt.

Get them involved where they're like toting it.

So they have to worry about them.

So I think it was a really good game.

I think the Chiefs.

still got stuff to work on, you know what I'm saying, as far as like run game wise.

Patrick Mahomes is still nice.

But the Eagles, i think it's more eagles good getting out of that stadium playing winning football and i think that's that's what it is when i see the eagles play it just that's just a great football team yeah i i think you know the offense is built to run the football you went and got saquan for a reason and he's doing exactly what it is that you know y'all want him to do they're winning with the time of possession you know they're giving their defense time to rest which is you know letting them when they run the ball you know he's he's not getting stopped for negative yards very often so they're staying ahead of the chains.

A thousand percent defense gets the rest, they come out there, and when it comes down to it, you know, just the last you know, couple games, like the defense plays better than the defense that they play against, and they do enough so that they can be in those situations to win those games come that fourth quarter.

They saw complimentary football, bro.

Yes, very, oh, yes, dude.

It's very, very, very complimentary football.

You know, when you look at it, uh, I think it was uh

Chris, was it Chris Jones?

Yeah, Yeah, Chris Jones had said to Hurts at the end of the game, he said, you didn't even get 100 yards.

And Hurts said, we won the fucking game.

Shut your ass up.

You know, that's, that's really what it came down to.

He did what was necessary for his team to win.

He may not have put up the numbers that, you know, he had put up in the Super Bowl, but he did what was necessary for his team to win.

And I think that's all you can ask for is for the offense and defense to complement each other and special teams add into it.

And that's, you know, that's really what they have going on right now, you know, over in Philly.

And you, you really can't knock it too much, man.

You love to see it, Jane, at the end of the day.

You know what I'm saying?

People love to see points.

You want to see a quarterback throwing

baseball outside here.

I like seeing a hard-fought defensive game

where I don't want to see 500 yards on the field.

I don't want to see.

That's not exciting to me, dude.

I don't understand that.

I mean, somebody's playing bad.

Somebody's somebody's playing bad it's bad football being played if that's no question yards you know what i'm saying of passing you know what i'm saying somebody's getting yes yes no who's in the wrong spot yeah so that's we're gonna get to why i had to go ahead and put my college shirt on you know i had to get professional because we gotta yeah got we gotta talk about my stillers you know so yeah i don't see all their towels it's bad yeah yeah we we lost

my question was i look this is what i wanted to talk to you about james i wanted to see how high you were with the stillers win and if you get real cranky and start wearing collar shirts when they lose i guess you start wearing collar shirts when they lose and double tiled up when they win

hey i'm gonna tell you it ain't nothing like when you lose and you actually playing it ain't nothing like that you're right you know

as soon as i left the game as soon as i left the game brother i wasn't bad you know i was i was i was pretty good i'm

you were present you were in the building yes yes oh i was in the building brother so it's not that it's not the you know it's not the same not the same concept as when

you're actually playing the game.

Okay, no, for sure.

For the first time since 2002, the Steelers have allowed more than 30 points in the first two games.

The Steers defense gave up 14 plays of 10 yards or more.

The defense,

with six former first rounders, allowed back-to-back 100-yard rushers.

Goodness, man.

God.

Stillers don't give up rushing.

That's just just something that, as a base, that's one of the things that's supposed to be the standard.

You don't give up 100-yard rusher.

And,

dude, I don't, I really can't understand what's going on with the defense.

I'm nervous.

I'm uh, I'm scared.

I'm, I'm, yeah,

I'm, I'm, I'm actually a little past that, dude.

Like, the defense is bad, dude.

Like, you gave up 32 points to the Jets, bro.

Four, almost 400 yards, dude.

What was it?

182 rushing, and the bills just dog walked the jets, dude.

Yeah, only gave up 154 yards total, dude.

Like, we're in trouble, man.

What do you think the problem is?

Listen, dude, we can't stop the run.

We can't get consistent pressure on the quarterback.

You got

dude, what is it?

What's his name?

Damn Darnold Darnold hit us for almost 300.

No, like he hit us for two years.

Tony Walker hit us for 105 rushing, dude.

He was averaged almost.

Well, he was over.

He was over eight yards a rush, dude.

Our offensive line is bad, dude.

We can't get a running game going.

Jalen Warren is having to break a tackle in the backfield.

25% of the time, dude, if not more, before he gets out the backfield.

Jalen Warren was the only bright spot I would say out there.

No, we can't, we can't pass protect.

He was our leading catcher out there, he was our leading pass catcher.

We can't have our leading catcher, right?

And then the receivers started dropping passes, dude.

Like,

I don't,

it was,

it didn't look I was a little distraught anyway.

And then you got the you got the turnover, like right there in the end zone.

That didn't help us at all.

And then, on top of that, like when it came down to it, we lost the turnover-take turnover-takeover ratio because the special teams just, Johnson just had a brain fart.

I don't know what happened there.

I am, dude, I'm up at, I'm bumping the top.

You know,

I'm in the suite over there.

And

as soon as he touched the ball, dude, the first thing I did, and he didn't turn and go to it, I'm yelling like he can hear me.

Get the ball.

Dude, I'm screaming and yelling like he hears me.

I'm like, yo, I'm like, I'm invested in this a little too deep right now.

I'm yelling from like, you know, like the 400 right there, you know, where you underneath the.

I know exactly what you're talking about.

Yes, I'm yelling from the 400 like he could hear me.

You know what I'm saying?

Like,

we are, we are in trouble, dude.

That did, it just wasn't like, that's what I'm saying, though, Debo.

It just, that, that, those things, like Danny Smith, we talked about Danny Smith.

Special teams is, he teaches that.

That's what you got.

Like, that's something I don't think that Danny's, Danny Smith does not not teach that stuff.

He doesn't teach because I used to be the returner in that meeting room He would teach us about the keeping your foot out of bounds when you when you're trying to get it Yeah, grab the ball put one foot in one foot out now

So just the little the little nuances that you wouldn't really know he would definitely teach us all of that stuff.

So just that going into the game that's that's a brain fart, but that's something that's gonna put you behind the eight ball.

That's not that's seven points.

You know what I'm saying?

And playing in games like this when the offense isn't going like that, we're not getting

that put us down by 10 right then and there.

like brother and then at the same time how do you not even attempt like the whole stadium is yelling get the ball that that

for sure for sure i mean he he yeah he he wild out right there that's not that's there's no excuses for that bro we're professionals you're the kickoff returner the starting you start him you back there you know what i'm saying

about this

there's no excuse and then bro

i say this too though like even with the run the run the run defense is looking kind of crazy i think it's got it got to be gaps it got to be you know what i'm saying because he sometimes listen getting to the second level with without getting touched you know what i'm saying so that's just i don't listen i don't know i know we're bad like we need we need to we need to get better but then i'm trying to look at it and i'm like is this a scheme thing like are we just

got to a point to where we're trying to cover everything and we're covering nothing now?

Like, what is going on?

I would say some of the things, though, I would see simple mental errors.

You know, Coach T, how he thrives on fat, don't get beat to the flat.

Don't get beat to the flat.

We were seeing when he's doing boots, just people running butt naked open to the flat.

You know what I'm saying?

For like catching and runs for 30, 40 yards.

I'm like, that's just.

discipline.

You know what I'm saying?

That's somebody's assignment that where's your man?

Like that needs to be your man.

When they're running, we're running deep overs.

And I'm seeing Jalen and them dudes coming across or the dig routes.

You know what I'm saying?

Like there's, there's gaps.

And some of these are zone coverages.

You know what I'm saying?

Some of these are mans, but we got to be able to understand who has who there's a reason we're not covering everything but like they're gonna be able to do catch and tackles but people running sky free through your secondary makes no sense you know i'm saying so much should be around there yeah i think the big thing with the zone is yeah that's your zone but when you get a guy that sits down in your zone you want to kind of try and relate to him you know what i'm saying

a thousand percent if somebody we're not even relating like he's just

going there scooting down sitting there and we're making like we didn't even see or or or feel this dude like you got it you gotta have some

we're saying we're saying the same thing once someone gets into your zone then we're matching we're matching we're matching because you know these five zones it's zone but then man once he gets once he's in your zone that you gotta tell zone you go you go until he gets out of your zone and get back like you you passing basically to the next zone like we're just sitting there like oh my zone is right here in front of this hash and yeah i see him sitting in between the hashes but or i don't feel him whatever that may be And I'm not going to try and at least scoop that way to try and, you know, try and relate to him.

I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't know.

Like I said, we're bad right now on both sides of the line on defense and offense.

And when you don't have success there, you cannot have success on the football field.

And

that's where we're at.

You got to control the line of scrimmage.

I don't

they average the stillers only average five yards a play

like how do how do you average only five yards a play and you're you're passing the rock like

i don't

i think you know what it was i got too excited

i i know you you got real hype it was a lot of wee we we we we

yeah yeah yeah yeah you know the stillers i've been doing a lot of the stillers right now you know what i'm saying i gotta like i done separated

Now, you back vested.

Yeah, like, you know, the most successful runs that they or passes that they have was the short stuff, you know, giving it to the running back.

He just, you know, he just darting up out of there.

Yeah, it was Jalen Warren, man, getting yakk, getting yards after the catch, jumping over people, hurtling folks, giving everything he had.

But at the same time, like, we need some more DK, we need some more to figure out a way to get Calvin Austin.

He's speeding up.

Yeah, DK was throwing the ball.

He don't normally do that.

You know what I'm saying?

So it was, it was a, it's a it's a combination but the big thing is we got to get settled up front on both sides of the ball so that you can do what it is football is made to do pass the ball run the ball stop the pass stop the run yeah because you can't do either one of those it's going to be trouble dude it's going to be trouble bro we can't have walker he was running through the defense when we're trying to get more possessions we got to be able to stop the run and we can't keep having just big plays

dude what was it eight eight eight yards a tote?

Eight one a tote?

It's crazy.

He only had 13 carries, dude.

That's what I'm saying.

Like

it's guaranteed first downs, man.

Get that dude the ball two times.

Yeah.

Anyway, man.

Listen, I really, I'm going on.

Let's go on to the Cowboys, man.

Yeah.

That game was crazy.

Shoot out in the fourth quarter, man.

Dak Prescott in the fourth quarter versus the Giants.

He was 15 or 20, 187 yards, one touchdown, 116 pass already.

That's nothing new to me.

Dak, like, I think that's the thing he does in the fourth quarter.

And most of the time, it was because they was down and you played a little lighter defense.

But I don't, you know,

I don't know if that was the case here.

It's the Giants.

So it is kind of to be, you know, expected a little bit, you know.

But I will say this,

would it mean the Giants and

them having the defense that they have, I don't know if the Cowboys are better than what we thought they were.

Right now, you know, they won the game.

That's good.

But

you let the Giants put 37 on you, brother.

506 yards.

405 passing and no real pressure on Rush.

You are missing Micah Parsons right now.

Because you look at it a week ago, Washington held him to only 231 yards.

They couldn't even piss a drop.

Now you come in here and you throw up five.

You got a shootout with him.

So you got to play Washington.

I don't know if that's going to fare well for you, considering you both played the same opponent and it's two totally different outcomes.

So

I don't think they, they, I don't, I don't think they,

I think I overreacted the first week.

You know, they ain't really, you're saying they ain't really proved too much right here.

No, I think they actually

put me back into the mindset of the Cowboys that they have been and were

actually, it's a little worse now because

506 yards to the Giants?

400 and five cooking.

I mean, to the,

yeah, to the Giants, 405 cooking.

Russell cooking.

That's what Russell now.

Bro, that's what I'm trying.

Russell, I thought they won that game.

When he threw that bomb, he did.

They had more yards.

They had more yards.

They were, they, they look good.

I don't know.

So the good thing is, just speak for Russell.

They ended up, he bought himself some time because even though they lost this game, Russell was cooking.

Russell was balling.

Russell wasn't the reason why they lost this game.

Their defense needed to play a little bit better and make some more stops.

Like they scored that touchdown with 25 seconds left.

I'm like, oh, Russell just won this game, came back.

Like the offense was playing amazing.

Their defense blew it, letting them get down and make that field goal with 25 seconds left.

You need to play somehow to get into prevent defense, but they're just letting Dak.

That's what we always talk about.

Put a little bit more pressure.

Don't give him 25 yards with just free chill, standing back.

Pushing him, pushing him back.

Put the back of his head.

As soon as you turn around, walk right on him.

Like, that's just pitch and catch.

You got to put pressure on them.

And you're not playing to win.

You're playing not to lose.

And that's how you lose the game.

So that's just, that's my thing there.

But Russell played really, really good.

Russell played good enough to win.

And that's just a good step for the Giants.

But with all that being said, I don't think they're that good of a team anyway.

And for them and for the Cowboys to get out with a win, that's bravo.

bravo.

I think you're a better team.

You should have got out there with a win.

There's no reason they, I don't think they should be on the field with you guys like that.

but it was somehow y'all won that game.

So, I don't, I'm not

it doesn't make me feel too much better about it.

He still had to uh kick a 64-yard field goal to even

kicker is amazing.

He's not tripping, he's not tripping.

As soon as he gets to the 50, they feel like they got a field goal, you know.

I'm saying

the Cowboys kicker is unbelievable.

Oh, no question, dude.

He got two of the, I think he got two of the four longest kicks in NFL history.

Oh, he's making 64 yards or longer, Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

He's doing the thing.

He already, he already pro bowl already.

Oh, for sure.

Just right there off that.

As long as he don't do nothing crazy.

Yeah,

him and back roll.

Him and back roll bars.

But then, like, like, you know, on the other side, like the Giants, they, they really didn't help themselves.

You know, the first drive, you got to tackle James Hudson, who committed four penalties on the one drive.

He had

unnecessary roughness.

He had a false start,

another unnecessary roughness, and another false start.

So they benched him.

So it says Hudson was benched the following drive and got into it on the sideline

with the ball.

Is that how you say that?

Yeah.

Coach Debo.

Dabo.

Yeah.

Coach Dabo.

Last week, Mika,

Mikhail.

Neat neighbors, Neighbors.

How you say that?

Malik Neighbors.

Malik Neighbors.

Number one, Uno.

Big that bigger malik neighbors has issues with the same

with the same

debo debo

brian debo

that's debo that's deboat man you just coach debo brian debo

all right so

now this week is husson's uh is husson acting up on the sideline and you had uh

malik last week.

You think he's he got an issue over there?

You think he can lead this team or they just ain't got no confidence in him?

I think he can lead the team.

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I think it's two separate situations.

I think Neighbors was going at Coach Debo because he wanted the ball he's trying to just get the offense going he just don't feel like you know i'm saying he was getting involved enough hudson's wiling hudson you committed four fouls on one drive back to back to back to back you're the problem i don't know what dabo is doing that you're committing all these uh fouls you know what i'm saying has nothing to do with him that's you being not not being professional not being ready false starting unnecessary roughness getting in your feelings like doing stuff after the play causing penalty yards

you're getting you're getting penalties before and after you're tripping penalties during the play

cold or whatever that's gonna happen and then you're doing unnecessary roughness after play you know what i'm saying like you're losing yourself so i think that there's two different separate things that coach debo's getting after with neighbors and him it's just really he's trying to get better he's trying to get the ball coach what's up like i'm trying to figure something out great player i want to get the ball i want to do better hudson i think he's tripping on the sideline i don't know what the situation was but you are unnecessary roughest.

You have two of those pals, and you have two false start fouls.

What do you do?

That's what I want to know.

Those are personal fouls, right?

Do you get fine for those?

I don't know.

I think it might depend on the unnecessary roughness.

If you hit a quarterback, it's unnecessary roughness.

You get fine for that.

Yeah, yep.

I mean, yeah, yep, probably.

Do you get fine for every hit you get on the quarterback that's unnecessary?

Not necessarily.

It depends if they thought it was a correct call or not so okay okay sometimes they make a call and they'll look at it later on and you won't get a you know you won't get a fine for it okay it's all depending on what they see and they actually do do that so it's not automatic you know

okay so yeah i don't know if he got fine for them or what what what kind of unnecessary roughnesses he had but he

He was wild.

I don't know why he was over there arguing.

I see you got your Cleveland, your Cleveland stuff on.

you got,

you got, you got, you got some, some good stuff to say about Cleveland because, I mean, the Ravens just beat these boys 41 to 17.

You know,

Kyle Van Noy, he said all they had to do was go to, go to dinner as a team, man, get it together, man.

Make sure they don't have no more collapses like they did in last

week or the fourth quarter, man.

It worked.

Shit.

The Ravens now, what, 13-2, following losses since 2020, 2022?

yeah it was 10-3 at halftime game was going good i thought you was probably like pounding your chest like

we about to do this huh

the defense man they was playing really really well they was playing really well keeping the game close flacco was just doing there was a lot of check downs at the beginning of the game um almost then when when it was getting tight through the almost through the pick six uh he had the strip sack fumble so i mean flacco wasn't doing too well this game and i think the defense was trying to keep us into the game as long as they could but then once we started doing just eris uh delpit shout out delpit he prevented two touchdowns he balled out he did his part i mean i had i had i had eyes on him just watching him to see how good he played very very very good to see him ball out but I don't think our offense did too well.

Like there was just too many checkdowns.

We didn't take really any chances down the field.

And then when we did, we threw picks and it just didn't look like our offense had too too much going at all.

The defense was trying to keep us in the game, but at the end of the day, once that second half came, it just was too much for us.

Oh, no question.

Like Miles Garrett said, I guess after the game, he said, I mean, this shit is embarrassing.

We got to do better on defense.

We got to do better as a team.

I mean, I think that's cool that, you know,

he said that.

you know it's uh

it's it's fought everywhere and like you said at the end of it the second half they gave up a lot of points i guess so yeah you know they they got to do their part too the bomb the de-hop man look it's it's it's like we said earlier debo it's three phases you got offense you got defense and you got special teams they gave up a big old pump return or kick return and at the same time they gave up a pump block that basically was a touchdown so our special teams wasn't playing well at all uh the defense was doing they were fighting at the first half trying to keep it reasonable but then like you got it you get these short fields you're trying to short fields, and then at the same day, bomb the D-Hop.

D-Hop had a great play.

Lamar Jackson scrambling, using his feet.

And then they still have Derrick Henry running the ball.

So defense was fighting, but you know,

you can only do if you just sit back and you were to just look at the numbers, not look at the game, you would be like, how did this game end up 41 to 17?

Yeah, because they were putting in just short fields, like you said, pump blocks, easy situations where like nobody's helping each other out.

You know what I'm saying?

So special teams wasn't helping out situations.

Defense was fighting.

Offense wasn't really putting defense in good spots.

So it just was a whole overall.

The team just got to do better, man.

It didn't look too good.

Do you think it should be a quarterback change?

Kevin Stefansky said after the game that he won't consider a change at quarterback in week three.

I think he's just trying to, I mean, I think he's trying to build himself some more time, but I'm not going to lie.

When Dylan came in there at the end, even if it's going to be Dylan, I like Shador.

Somebody with some spunk that's going to give us some spark i love flow flacco i know but we know what he's going to give us he's going to check it down he's going to try to be consistent he's going to be a veteran that's going to try to steer the we know what he's going to do for us when we had these younger guys in there he's faster he's more athletic he's mobile the pass when he's in there he's though he's throwing touchdown passes he doesn't really throw too many interceptions and he's he's young he looks like he's ready so if the browns want to give some more if you want to have some more chances to put a spark in your offense the younger dudes are ready they're sitting there it looks like flacco at the end of the day day when he keeps doing these check downs with me i'm like the one reason why i do like him because if you're gonna you can throw a decent you can throw a good flyball you can throw a good fade you can throw a good deep post a good overball if you're not gonna throw them then i put the other dudes in there you know i'm saying anybody could kind of check the ball down we need we need more points we need and once you put one of the other guys in there you add into a component of them being able to run and now you can't just you know turn your back and lock up everybody or just go ahead and and do whatever it is you want to do it while you're rushing you know come inside, outside, however it is that you want to rush.

You got to take into account now, like, oh, hold up, this quarterback can run.

He could, he could get out the pocket on me.

So now you got to rushing your lanes correctly instead of taking those liberties that you, you, you're going to take with Flacco.

You're not worried about him, you know, getting out of the pocket, taking off on you.

You know, worst thing he's going to do is get out the pocket and maybe get a couple yards if he if he does that and he's going to get down.

I mean, he he's uh, I think he's a little older than me.

No, I'm not.

No, Debo.

Nah, I don't know.

Y'all pick up, you know, y'all, Browns, you know, they'll basically get, you know, anything that they

think can help them and then just rationalize everything else out.

You know, I don't know how y'all work over there.

Like, what's the components that be like, all right, I'm going to put this guy here and we're going to do this.

Like, just go ahead and say, you know what?

We're rebuilding and start with one of your young guys.

And because

I don't think it's gonna get um, it can't get much worse, right?

I mean,

right now, I'm right now.

When I saw that offense the other day, when I was watching Flacco, just

throw the ball, you know what I'm saying?

Give, give it a chance.

You know what I'm saying?

We know what it is.

I mean,

we need something different, I think, behind the quarterback.

And

that game just wasn't too, he just didn't do too much for me.

And I like Flacco, but I'm just saying that from a fan's perspective, if you want to be able to get a spark going on the offense,

that just it just looks real vanilla.

I mean, it wasn't that bad until, like you said, they got into the second half.

It was, you know, it was close up until then.

No, no, I'm saying we didn't get no, but offense, we didn't score any.

We didn't.

No, no, we didn't.

That's what I'm saying.

Defense played good, was fighting as long as they could.

I mean, defense has been playing good both weeks, though, when you, when you look at it.

I'm not mad at the defense at all.

You're going to fight and just make sure you try to keep the yards down.

But if you get put in short field positions and you're continuing to be on the field all the time, you know what I'm saying?

That makes it tough.

Yeah, the short field makes it makes it real, real tough because now you got to go out there and try and put the fire out.

And, you know, worst case scenario in some of those situations, the best you're going to be able to do is three, you know, unless they go and shank a field goal or something.

So,

yeah, I'm not,

I'm not too

too hype on the Browns.

I don't, I want them to keep Flacco in there as long as they can, especially when they come play us.

Like, keep him in there.

When they come play, like, make sure you put him back in there.

Man, that the reckon they're gonna matter when we come play y'all.

You already know what it is, Deepo.

That don't matter.

They're gonna try to finagle something.

They're gonna try to finagle something.

Man, they did it in the playoffs.

Oh, man, let's go over here to the Bangles, man.

The Bengals and the Jaguars, dude.

Bengals beat him 31 to 27, but Joe Burrow is dealing with turft toe that may require surgery.

He's expected to be sidelined for approximately three months, dude.

That's a minute.

Do you think they can win with Jake Browning?

With him missing that much time.

I don't know too much about their backup quarterback, but

I'm just sad for Joe Burrow now.

23, I think he went four and three uh in seven starts in 23.

okay okay i'm just sad about joe burrow now though man because he's gonna be out for a minute and this is just becoming uh

a thing you know i'm saying he missed a lot of games 2020 2023 now 2025 he said he's missing up to three months i could be you know i'm saying 12 games I just hoping not all of these injuries don't keep adding up.

You know what I'm saying?

Building up, making sure that, because it just seemed like a, I don't want it to be a pattern.

I hope Joe Burrow stays healthy, but I just want him to, you know what I'm saying, watch himself but i don't i don't think this is a good good thing for the bangles at all joe burrow's one of the best quarterbacks in the league he's one of my top five he doesn't he makes all the right

he does all for me i don't i don't think they have a shot with the other guy the defense is not playing that well right now um

they have times or series that they do well and then when it comes down to the whole the whole game,

it's not always as consistent as it needs to be.

I just don't

i don't like it without having burrow in there to go ahead and and throw points up you know what i'm saying i don't like it at all without your burrow the bangles

you know i don't think they're

uh

one of the defenses that it would be difficult to you know score a 31 on

so

yep I don't think that the Jaguars are not doing too much this year either.

So them doing that on them.

They got Travis going both ways yet or what?

They do.

I mean, I think this, this, in this game, that first game, he think he played like six snaps on defense and probably like 35 on offense.

And I think this one he might have played.

I think I know he played more.

So I know he had a pass breakup.

I saw a great pass breakup, had about two tackles.

So he looked better.

He's like, he's getting more comfortable.

I want him to.

I don't know exactly how they're doing it.

I think that he could be, I think he could do more.

I think he could do more plays.

I think he wants to, I think they would want to, if it was up to me, I would have him start at cornerback mainly.

I think they want to have him at receiver because, you know, they need they need another receiver.

They think his offensive ability is going to be able to score points.

Why would you put him at corner?

Like he, I think he's going to,

I think he'll get more at

the receiver.

You take him out at receiver, like who else they go throw to?

And then, you know, the adjustments he can make to get to the ball is unreal.

No, no, for sure.

You get, you giving, you know, you give

what's his name, um, opportunities to not opportunities, but if he makes an errant throw that's

high, low, yeah, Trevor, you give Trevor, you know, leeway when he, you know, makes a

throw that's not exactly where it should be, and he can, you know, he can adjust to it and get to it.

I don't, I don't, I don't see him

being able to

be so much better on the defensive side that I would take him off of the offensive side.

I would do what they're doing, but

I think I would be more

situational with it.

I don't know.

So you would have him.

I mean, either way, I would have him play.

I love him on the offensive side of the ball.

I love him on the defensive side of the ball.

I think they need to give him more.

I think he's ready for more snaps.

Just what

either way.

So you think, okay, I see what you're saying.

So

you're not giving more and having gone almost like he was going in college.

I mean, he get kind of, kind of.

Okay.

Kind of.

Because I think on the offensive side of the ball, at receiver, there's a lot of plays where receivers don't play 100% of the snaps, period.

No.

You know what I'm saying?

They rotate.

So it's a way that even if you're the number one receiver, your ass can play 80% of the snaps.

You know what I'm saying?

So if Travis Hunter is the number two receiver on the team, he could play 60% of the snaps.

There's not all all formation.

It's not all the stuff where if there's two wise, sometimes he'll be in, sometimes he'll be out.

But also if you take him out and you only got him in there, you know, say, like you said, 60%, when you could have him 80% or 85%, that takes away the defense having to worry about him and have that threat in there.

You know what I'm saying?

So

I just think just getting him, because I think Travis Hunter, it's not that I want to.

I think he's ready.

I think that him being different than any, like a lot of the other players from as far as we saw him do it on the defensive side of the ball.

We saw him do it on the offensive side of the ball in college.

But I think just his work ethic, what he does off the football field, how football is really his thing.

He don't drink.

He don't smoke.

He's not out doing nothing else.

He's trying to be in the facility and be the best player that he could be.

So I think film wise, he's one of the dudes that.

is different that I think he's ready for more.

He can take more on and he takes care of his body.

Like I think starting earlier than other players would have, you know what I'm saying?

So I just think with all of that being said, giving him a little bit more, giving him a little bit more exposure out there on the field isn't going to hurt.

I think it would do nothing but

help him help his progression and help you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I understand where you're at.

Yeah.

He don't do nothing but football and work out.

You know, he, the biggest thing,

you got to have the endurance and the win to be able to.

go both ways.

You know, that's a that's a big thing.

And I'm not mad at it because Debo, at the same time, but when we played, like when I was a rookie in Cleveland, we said defensive snaps is out there a lot in all special teams.

We are averaging like 90 snaps a game.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's not that if he's out there playing, he's right now he's playing 43 on defense or 40 some, 36 on defense and six on offense.

That's 44 snaps in a game.

Yo, how is he playing 90 snaps a game, bro?

Bro, I mean, that's, that's when that's you're, you're on the field a lot.

You're on the field a lot.

Oh,

and then I'm playing all four phases.

Yeah, I understand.

And I'm playing all that was right.

Yeah, I was doing that.

I was starting and playing all four phases.

When you're a rookie, you're like, yeah, you're doing kickoff.

I'm doing kickoff.

I'm doing kickoff return.

I'm doing punt.

I'm doing punt return.

You know what I'm saying?

And then I'm doing defense.

Every player, we out there for a lot.

Defense, you'll play 65, 70 snaps, you know what I'm saying?

And then 20, 25, 30 special team, Jones, you out there.

Oh, dude, I didn't even think about that.

I was playing like that.

That's wild.

You know what I'm saying?

You don't really count, but if you put up your whole, all the snaps, really out there playing, you can get some snaps.

You get up there in the 90s oh yeah yeah i i i forgot all about the

four you do four four a quarter that's easy that's 16.

plus you're 60 you probably go do more

yeah you could get up there dude nice and easy but we got a problem over here in miami though man for sure dude the dolphins are 0-2 after a 33 to 27 loss to the patriots you lost to the patriots dude like like

they allowed, whoa, dude.

Listen, they allowed their opponents on the first 10 drives of this season to score.

The first 10 drives, everybody

scored.

So

Indy scored the whole game.

And then the first three drives of

the New England game, New England scored.

Dude, I think they've only stopped

three times.

They've only stopped the offense three times, I think, so far this year.

I could be wrong.

Somebody look that up.

Check that out for me, dude.

Like,

you think it's already hopeless in Miami, dude?

Think it's over?

I mean, hopeless is a big word, but like, we got it.

It's not looking good.

They're on a downhill spiral.

I'll tell you that.

They're not going this way.

They're going that way.

Listen, I would say that.

Did you hear what the coach said

in this interview?

What did he say?

What did he say?

He said, he basically they're asking something about winning and he basically said well you gotta win to win

like

i swear give me that quote i need that quote so bad like

i'm looking at i'm looking at him and i'm like yo he looked like he miamied out if you know what i mean like

what is

dude it was it was no

it was nothing in his eyes that said he was upset it was just uh and it dude when it comes out give me that somebody got to give me that clip so you could hear it i'm like what did he just say

it was like

you don't know what to say so yeah we got well you do i'm trying to tell you it's like we got to win to win i'm trying to tell you yeah man that's that that doesn't sound too motivating no not motivating at all like my coach can't even give me something you know on the

just something to

give us some hope.

Like, you got to win to win.

I don't.

I mean, they got to not getting the stop in the first 10 drives of the season is crazy.

Hold up.

I got the quote, brother.

I got the quote.

Hold up.

I'm going to give it to you right now.

It said, McDaniel said, to win games, you have to win games, not lose the game.

You own dope.

Something wrong with him.

Something wrong with him, people.

Something wrong with him.

Hey,

you

just said to win the games,

you have to win the game, not lose the game.

Who the fiddle faddle don't know that?

Something going on over there, dog.

It stinks.

I'm trying to tell you, it stinks bad, dude.

It smells like a bag of chopped up dunk.

I'm telling you, it was bad.

I told you that

I played for your man, and

he was our ride receiver coach in Cleveland.

I said he's a very brilliant, brilliant man.

He's a brilliant, brilliant mind, but I don't know if he should be a head coach because that's not a head coach answer.

We got to win the game.

That is not an answer from anybody.

I know.

I think, you know, he's trying to...

Well, if you say, I'm just here so I don't, you sure you might as well just went marshal.

I'm just

just here so I don't get fine.

Yeah, he's just, you know, but you know, like Bill Belichick won't even answer questions.

He's being a smart ass.

He knows what he's saying.

He knows you got to win the game.

Hey, not lose the game.

Belichick be answering questions, but not really answering.

He don't even talk like that.

He be mumbling and all that.

I know.

That's what that's that's his personality to do the same thing about Belichick.

No, you got to win the game.

That don't even make sense.

At least Belichick makes sense

to win.

To win the game,

you have to win the game not lose the game you understand that no i understand go and tell my son

he got to be saying that because he's just annoyed with the question

to win the game you got to win the game son not lose the game to all those kids out there

to everybody that's looking for the answer

I got the answer.

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For McDaniels, you want to win the game?

To win the game, you have to win the game, not lose it.

And it was like an epiphany to me: boom.

Oh my God, he's right.

I don't want none of of what he's on.

Because that was nothing.

I don't want nothing of what he's on.

What a job.

He's hilarious.

Dude, okay, listen, man.

All right.

So we will roll over here to the Bears.

All right.

The Bears and first-year head coach Ben Johnson are 0-2.

Now, Caleb.

was underwhelming against them.

52-21 lost to the Lions.

Hey, see, the lions is who I thought they were.

See, they went on out there.

So

Green Bay is really that because what they did to the Lions, you know what I'm saying?

Yep.

And then the Lions went over here and put them paws on them.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, yes, because you had to.

Get your hands off my child.

They probably had people like wives and girlfriends in this thing.

Yeah, mom.

Like, get your hands off my baby.

Get your hands on my baby.

Like that.

Like, that's that's out of control.

I'm telling you.

We talked about this.

We talked about

a 50 piece.

You can't put no 50 piece on me, man.

They went and they had a point to prove.

We talked about the lions.

We said,

what they're going to do.

We're going to see what happens when the Bears play the Lions.

And I'm like, I believe in the Lions more than I believe in the Bears, just the organization and what they got going on.

And they went to prove a point.

they dog stomped them boys and wasn't trying to know

that that's i like the lions because like this is professional football.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, no disrespect, but you got to stop it.

You got to

stop us.

Keep us out the end zone.

You know what I'm saying?

So that's why I rock with how the Lions went about this, like trying to pooco point people talking crazy about their offense.

They like this.

Okay, we're going to get it popping.

We're going to get it back rocking.

Running back Gibbs.

We're going to get it to Amara State Brown.

We're going to get it rocking.

So they did a great job.

And at the end of the day, you got to stop them.

So I'm not mad at any team that's trying to get themselves going.

When you're coming off the loss, coming off not playing well, coming off not feeling good, you're going to go do what you got to do.

Cause you know, if it was the other on the other foot, they would try to dog stomp you.

You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, and they got

as many points as you can.

For sure, for sure.

And, you know, they got Caleb some help in this offseason.

They brought in a couple new pieces.

And, you know, it just, I don't, I don't know if it, if it's really helping.

I mean, did you, did you see the Bears looking this bad with them actually adding something to helping?

I didn't think it was going to look this bad, but I mean, I still, like you said, it's the for me, for me, it's a bigger sign of it's not, I don't know what Caleb can do.

I think it's the top, it's the kitchen, whoever's bringing and putting the pieces and stuff together, it's not working.

And I don't know if it's the play calling now because it's just it's been happening to too many quarterbacks.

I don't think that I think if he were to leave and go in a different situation, he may look like a better quarterback.

You know what I'm saying?

I don't know what the Bears got going on over there.

He doesn't look like anything's going on time.

I got a backup quarterback over there now.

It's not who?

Tyson.

His name is Tyson Bajant.

He's a, he's a undrafted.

He's a, he's an undrafted guy.

Um, I think he went in for the Bears?

Yeah.

Yeah, dude.

I'm like, he's undrafted.

I think they just signed him to like a $10 million contract like three weeks ago, bro.

Like, they're serious.

I'm trying to tell you.

Like,

he went in, I want to say

it was the

maybe the last two series of the game

okay

like obviously to get some you know get some snaps in and you talking you know like i said undrafted backup they just get dude a 10 million dollar contract three weeks ago um

oh and his daddy dude is uh travis like the arm wrestling champion dude yeah oh yeah do you think do you think they just doing that to get him some snaps they not about to they're not about to start him

i just gave him i just gave him 10 million three weeks ago

not to not to go ahead and maybe say hey

maybe we uh you know maybe we don't messed up maybe we need to go ahead and see if we can't

dad something out of him you know um at what point do you say

i mean

he don't

He don't consistently do what he needs to do.

Like the first quarter seems to be the only time he could do something.

I don't know.

And yeah, if I was Caleb, I would hope they try something stupid like that and let me get up out of there and go somewhere else.

Like if they thinking crazy like that, like Caleb's the problem, I think the Bears are really lost their minds.

That's just my opinion.

You think the Bears are the problem?

You don't think he has any

downside?

I think that he has some downside.

I think that he could do better, but I think that...

He's not the reason why they're losing games.

I don't think that he's been in a position where they're not helping him with the play calling they're not helping him as much with the run game like with the line he's scrambling i got i i just don't think with all other quarterback justin fields is looking better like then than i think it's the coaches i think that he is i don't think he's being coached that well over there that's just my personal opinion i feel like he goes to a different team he would do better

i don't know man i don't know if he would if he would do better because i ain't i ain't seen him do better.

That's, I mean, I'm saying, you know, I'm doing like, you know, I'm doing like my guy over there, Damien.

You know, I don't know if he would do better.

I ain't seen him do better.

I ain't seen him do better.

So I don't know if he could do better.

But how you do better is you got to do better.

Right.

That,

hey, boom.

You got that.

How you do better, you got to do better.

Got to do better.

Yo, bro.

Hey, we need that one right there.

How you do better?

You got to do better.

You got to do better.

Yes.

We'll see that, man.

We'll see that.

Bruh, Jared Goff, dude, he had 334 yards, five tutties.

Five tutties.

Defense wasn't helping him either, no.

No,

that's what I'm trying to tell you.

How many, like Caleb, he's going to do as only much as he can, but he can't stop five tutties getting thrown in the air.

He can't stop them not getting after golf, them not stopping to run.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, it's a lot going on over there.

We could try and get some points over there.

We can definitely try try and get some points.

We can get some more points.

We can get some more points.

How concerned are you with Chicago?

How concerned should they be over there?

They should be very concerned.

They should be very, there's not too many positives going on over there right now.

There should be some furniture moving.

Some people should be getting new addresses?

1,000%.

That's the only way.

That's the only way.

Yeah.

I've never really been.

That's the whole thing.

I don't want to be a hater, but I just never really been

a Bears fan.

and they just not they they just don't prove to me to

be like ready to ready to make something shape like just the people with trubisky with justin fields with all these quarterbacks that still been going there and not rocking i can understand i play for the cleveland browns so yeah it's not the same

organizational wise you know sometimes things gotta get moving it could be it could it could get ugly right

right

that's are you confident in the bears do you like them do you like what's going on no no I don't.

Listen, man,

I got issues with Bears, man.

But

listen.

You got issue with Caleb, too.

I got issues with Caleb, too.

Okay.

Respectfully.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

Like, I don't know, man.

I just,

I can't have my quarterback painting his nails, dude.

I just,

you too busy flossing your nails in the first quarter.

You couldn't do do nothing next three i don't know

okay okay

do you you think it's his work ethic his dedication and stuff like he worried about too much other stuff

i'm worried about painting my nails in a football game bro

what is that going to do for me on the i can see taping your fingers i can see i can see doing all that you're talking about purely

aesthetics like of your hands dude yeah okay no i feel it

i could feel that i could feel that devo i'm lost coming from i need i mean i like that's my quarterback

i listen man i can't

i can't i can't do it

but the coats they beat the broncos

29 to 28.

that boy uh

they say it was looking like jones up out there man the coats are 2-0 for the first time since 2009.

the coach are the first team in the super bowl era to not punt in either of their first two games now that

that is fire you didn't punt not in one that's impressive one game

you telling me you just you just destroying people you making sure worst case you get at least three

Or they could have went for a fourth and not made it two.

No.

But I don't think that was the case.

Like,

where do you see where do you see the colts at man where where would you put the coats in the in in the rankings over there

i i ain't gonna lie to you i'm that danny dimes is in a good situation right now and this is what i'm talking about too like it's the team it's everybody everybody's playing well hey guess what they got what they got running game they got a running game they have a great running game they're not leaning on daniel jones they're making sure he's an asset but at the same time he's doing exactly what he's asked to do.

You know what I'm saying?

And they're not leaning, and defense is doing good, running games doing well, and he's consistently getting wins.

So I'm very, very happy for Daniel Jones.

And this is the thing where we're saying too, like the like him, Jalen Hurts, they're doing what they got to do to win.

They have great running games.

They have a good defense and they're not leaned on to do everything.

They don't have to make every play.

Like with Patrick Mahomes, you have a great quarterback here when you have good run.

You need to give him some running game at the end of the day.

Just making sure that you have your quarterback trying to do too much every time, like trying to be Superman, it doesn't always work.

And it's a team sport.

So them being able to do that extra is always going to help out.

But them having to have a great running game like

who we got, Taylor, the running back for the Colts.

You know what I'm saying?

Just being able to turn around and hand the ball off to him takes a lot of weight off your shoulders.

So I think this teams, these, they're just doing a really good job of all three phases of working together.

And he's doing a great job of his 111 for what i like to call it yeah i i tell people that all the time and and the person i use is uh ben like when ben first came in ben didn't have to be the guy he ended up being like we had we had a run game you know it was it was run run and you know have him you know do a pass and if if he if he get couldn't find a receiver they were covered he you know run around extra time now defense breaks down it's spotting it's spot and throw you know and but like you said you got to make them have to put seven eight guys in the box because they want to stop that run game now you give them that play action and you give your quarterback opportunity to get easier reads without having to sit there and gun and try and read all of the things that they're doing and over the time of progression each year each game each game each year your quarterback is going to naturally get better at doing it from doing it but trying to you know throw them in there and make them do it you know from from day one is it's going to be difficult yep

a thousand percent and i think they're doing a good, that's that's what I'm saying.

It's this team ball and not just leaning because you don't want to, they can be able to grow.

Mean, if they're going to have growing pains, he's not going to come in and be just not making any mistakes, but it makes it so much easier when you're not asked to just sit back on first down and shotgun and sling the ball around.

Well, you know, first down, you're not behind the sticks.

You got a second and four.

You know what I'm saying?

That they don't know if you're going to run or pass it.

It makes it way easier for a quarterback to convert that than it is for a

second and 10 to a third and 10.

You know what I'm saying?

Just being able to keep them ahead of the sticks, making sure that these are short yardage things where the defense doesn't know if you're going to run or pass, keeping them on their heels helps them out so much.

Yeah, yeah.

The Falcons and the Vikings.

See, that's why I ain't sold on the Vikings, dude.

The Falcons beat the Vikings 22 to 6, bro.

Like

22 to 6, dude.

How

you couldn't score no more than six points?

Like, I didn't know what was going on with that one.

Like, did you?

What do you think of the cart?

Like,

I don't know, man.

It's

well, I know Bijan killed him.

Dijon Robinson killed him.

He had like almost 170 yards from scrimmage.

So he went out there and he did his thing.

I don't know if

the Vikings are

putting too much into the quarterback.

In the JJ.

Yes.

I don't know if he's like that.

Like

this last two weeks, I know he's not like that.

I mean, he may have been like that in Michigan or whatever, but he had a really good fourth quarter last game.

This game did not look too good.

I was hoping that he would be.

But again, what was that?

A good fourth quarter by him or just horrible defense by them?

It was a little, you know, you got to make the plays.

You got to make the plays that are available.

I understand.

Yeah, I'll give, like you said, I'll give him credit, but they, I think they assisted in helping him be able.

They clip-pauled it to him.

Okay.

I can respect that.

But you got, you got to make it.

So, yeah.

These two, I mean, this game was, I was hoping he was going to come off with a better display after that last, coming off the hype fourth quarter.

They only put up six points.

I don't think that looked too good.

I know the quarterback coach and my boy Josh McCown aren't too excited about it.

So I will hope to see next week.

Give him another week, a good week of preparation.

Let's see what's what he does next week.

I'm gonna give him a little bit more time.

Like you say, he's still a rookie.

He's still young.

He, you know, he's still young in the league.

He's still gonna have a lot of learning curves, but not going to throw out on him yet because he's still athletic.

He's still mobile.

And I've seen him make some really good throws.

So I'm gonna give him a chance, give him some time.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

And now the Jets, they got, they got, you know, they got stumped out by the bills 30 to 10.

And that's why I'm so nervous because the Bills went and stumped the Jets out.

And we,

me and the Stillers, let them put 30 something on them.

Like,

they shut down Phillips, dude.

Like

from the start, office couldn't do nothing.

Like,

Cook ran for 132, two tugs on them.

Like,

did.

I mean,

I think, you know, they had a week of film.

They had a week of film.

Bills came to study.

They came.

They came ready to play.

They came, studied up on, studied up on Phils.

He didn't really stand too much of a chance out there.

And at the same time, the Bills, their offense is amazing when you have Josh Allen.

And then being a great quarterback, it doesn't matter because you can just hand the ball off the cook and he was toting.

You know what I'm saying?

When you have that, knowing that you could just give him the ball,

it was kind of obvious that they kind of spanked the Jets up.

Yeah, for sure.

Run through.

49ers beat the Saints.

uh mac jones came in and relieved for brock purdy jones threw for 279 yards a career high and three

touchdowns jones after the game said i've worked a lot on my mindset this offseason the line did a great job blocking for me and when they do that i know i can sit in there and let it fly

Shout out, Mac.

No question.

Shout out Mac Jones, baby.

Let's get it going.

I've got to go over here to my homeboy, though.

Callaus Campbell, man.

Callaus Campbell.

With 26 seconds left, baby.

Secure the win for the Cardinals.

20.

7 to 28.

OG, I think he in year 19.

Congratulations to the Cardinals and to my dude, my guy, Kalaius Campbell.

He trains with me in AZ, dude.

No, I love, love Kalais, bro.

Real good dude.

Real good dude, man.

Yeah.

Yeah, huge dude, man.

Again, man, listen, we got to get up out of here, though.

Uh, congratulations to our two ticket winners, uh, James and Olivia, who went to uh yesterday's Stiller game.

Hey,

we're sorry it didn't come out like you know, you wanted to come out, but uh,

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Olivia.

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chats yeah

we got rick from new york

we we got rick from new york donated five and said shout out rick any good posse stories kendre bell

oh i i got i got some good posse stories not not too many uh not Not too many Kendra Bell stories, but I got some good posse stories.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

Shad Dollars donated five and said, Ah,

Shad.

Shaw Dollars.

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Show out right now.

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For sure.

Gary H donated five and said, what's with the defense?

What's with the defenses from college to pro

body check?

What?

From college to pro, body checking instead of wrapping up.

I've been seeing this so

many plays break.

I've been seeing so many plays break to big plays from initial contact.

I think it's

they're changing the rules.

So guys are afraid to put their head in there.

So if you put your head in there and you make contact and the dude make like he's hurt you're going to get fine so it's a lot of arm tackling going on i think that's what it is and

guys

i don't that's what i think for me i wouldn't i wouldn't care i would just go and make the tackle but like facing like even they're doing in high school too even facing up somebody is

It's not a.

What he says shoulder checking, Debo.

He's talking about people just launching it to people, like just trying.

He's saying guys aren't hitting and rapping.

He's saying they coming in and they're doing the bump and not hitting the rapping.

I see it a lot.

Yeah.

Dudes is just like trying to shoulder bump, knock people up.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm not wrapping up.

They're going to be thinking they, because they be thinking they're coming up with a little boom and they're going to knock them off their feet and they be bouncing off their little stuff.

You need to wrap up, little man, because a lot of dudes will be coming in that debo.

You know, I don't know if you was too big of a rapper.

You were exploding to people.

And like when you hit them, they're kind of coming off their feet.

Dudes be thinking they're going to do that.

And dude, like, man, come on, just bounce off of that and keep going.

Those dudes got to come and rap instead of trying to just

for sure.

Is that

what is that name?

Pronounce it for me, please.

Oh,

Gerald Dean.

Last name.

Yeah.

Holly.

Callie?

Collie.

Donated 10 and said,

Great show, Debo and Joe.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Thank you very much.

Catch us tomorrow, also.

And on Friday.

Monday, name, Geraldine.

Tuesdays, Fridays.

All right, look here, man.

Thank y'all for joining us for this episode of Debo and Joe.

Don't forget, hit the like button, subscribe, and we'll be back at it tomorrow.

Same place, same time, 11 o'clock.

Joe?

Yes, sir.

Till tomorrow, Brother Debo, it's happy.

Tell the people

about your great Cleveland Browns and how well they did yesterday before we get out of here.

It's a short.

Like I said, man, make sure y'all like and subscribe to the channel, the Debo, and Joe.

Catch y'all tomorrow.

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