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we got a very special guest joining us today we got former pro bowler former raven former new york giant uh former Raider joining us.

Darren Waller.

Darren, how you doing, bro?

Man, how y'all doing?

Appreciate y'all having me.

Man, I'm doing amazing.

Let me ask you, bro,

you playing.

I mean, look, you have a little setback, and we'll get into that a little bit.

You get drafted by the Ravens.

You have, you know, have some issues.

You end up going to the Ravens where you revive your career, playing unbelievable.

You go to the Giants and having success there, and then abruptly, you know, you stepped away from the game.

What went into that decision that you're playing basically at the height of your career and you said, you know what?

I need to step away.

I feel like mentally and emotionally, I feel like I kept running into similar walls I was running into earlier in my career.

I wasn't necessarily sabotaging myself in the same way, but I just felt like I kept running to the wall like this, this isn't really fulfilling to me.

I feel like there's a lot more room for me to be having joy here and I'm not having joy.

So I feel like I needed to step away to really just reevaluate my life while I was doing the things I was doing.

Was I doing them for me or was I doing them for other people to give me a thumbs up, shit like that?

So I feel like taking that time away really presented an organic moment for me to come back and join the Dolphins.

You know what, when I think about it too, when you think about that organic moment for you and being able to get away and having a sense of peace for most, usually football allows us to get that peace away from the world,

away from reality.

Are you in a space now?

Are you in a headspace now where you think you fulfilled whatever it is you needed to step away from the game from, and now you can devote your attention to just football yeah i just feel a lot lighter a lot purer um just in my life you know i feel like there was a lot of things i was involved in or trying to do just to um i don't know escape the game in a way but now i feel like the perspective i got from these last couple years allows me to step in and just see it the way i saw it like when i was a kid you know what i'm saying just being excited to play like having fun like with the team just cutting up like it's just i just see it with a whole new pair of glasses now

yeah that's dope when you stepped away from the game did you think it would be as easy as it was to get back in?

Because normally, you know, getting in is easy.

Getting back in is really, really hard.

Yeah, I feel like dudes ain't just really just like stepping away and then being like, oh, I want to come back.

Usually they step away.

It's like, there really ain't no coming back.

So me coming back into it.

I mean, I feel like I've always respected the game.

So I'm like, dudes, it's still just as fast, stronger, maybe even more so.

So I'm like, shit.

I practiced maybe

three full practices, a couple of limited ones earlier, right when camp first ended.

So I was like, I don't even really know what I'm going to be like when I step back into this.

Like, I'm going to get hit too.

I ain't got hit in two years.

And then to have it go how it went on Monday was just like,

you couldn't even script that for real.

I think, but when you think about it too, when you were in the game, you were still one of the better players in the league at your position.

I mean, just removing yourself.

For two years, two years from that, and coming back with just two years, you're still going to be one of the better players at your position, as you saw when you guys played.

So I'm excited for you.

Skies is obviously the limits.

Tyreek Hill is now gone.

And so that puts you to even more of a bigger role because knowing Mike McDaniels and the creativity he has offensively, you can create mismatches with you all damn day.

All damn day.

Straight up.

How long did it take you for your spidey senses to come back?

Because you know, like when you introduce, like, when you take like four months off, it takes you a while to really understand, like, okay, this is where my danger spot is, danger over here.

The guy's coming up from behind.

I need to get up in my shadow.

Being away for two years, I can only imagine, and your spidey senses are shut off for two years.

How soon did it take them to start tingling again?

Where you felt, okay, this is man's own.

I got danger on my right.

I need to get up in my shadow.

I need to spend left.

I need to spend right.

How long did that take for it to come back?

Bro, I still feel like it's coming back because, like, during the week of practice last week, like, we had like put a play play in where I was kind of running like

like a choice but like it kind of turns into like a wheel route and I was out there like on the red line I'm on the red line I catch it like my feet are just barely inbound so I'm like I got to get my field spacing back but um luckily like that first play that first third down of the game it was just like two man and I'm just like all right like I know what this look like I beat this a million times and just like that muscle memory came back but no you definitely right like I feel like the spacing reading the zone seeing how things coverages react react from the disguise, like post-snap, I feel like, oh, that shit's got to come back with reps.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, and speaking of reps, was the game too fast for you?

Did it feel like you were moving in slow motion a little bit, being that you've been away from the game?

And listen, you didn't get a chance to play in the preseason.

I'm not sure.

But game speeding, totally different.

It doesn't matter how much you practice.

Once you get in the game, playing against somebody else, you'd be like, what the hell?

Have you caught up to that yet?

Are your legs up underneath you yet?

I feel like it was a good start Monday.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I was getting reps against guys like Sauce.

And, you know, there's good athletic guys on that defense that's moving fast.

So I feel like it's a good start.

And, you know, I'll probably see matchup with guys like JC on Sunday with the Panthers.

They got some guys that can cover.

So, I mean, I feel like it's only going to get better for me.

I feel like the little things tops of the routes, just to feel like how I'm feeling in stems and just, you know, playing fast and not really thinking is going to probably take some time.

But I feel feel like i'm probably further along than i think i was just off a monday night because i ain't know what to expect

i think the thing is is that you like you said i mean you really haven't it wasn't like you were out running routes because you didn't know if you were going to come back and so now basically they're putting you out there and you got to hey i do i rip do i swim what do i do do i press i mean do i get on his outside i know i'm i don't want to square him up because i don't want him to give him my whole chest i just want to give him a shoulder to hit how soon did the route running aspect of it come back?

Like I said, bro, it's still coming back, bro.

Like I got, so I had got injured when a few weeks into my training of when I said, all right, I'm going to play again.

And that had me out for real until last week.

So like I had a few practices before I got hopped in that game.

So it's really all just coming back to me as we go along.

So like these Wednesday, these Thursday practices is like super intentional.

You get better than Peel Black.

Yeah, super intentional for me to kind of like, all right, how can I curate like everything that dudes was doing throughout camp?

You You know, I'm kind of like trying to hustle up and kind of get back into that flow, but also just understand like, you know, I am where I'm where I am.

I'm supposed to be here right now.

I ain't got to be where anybody else is at in their journey.

My journey is probably as weird and unique as it gets.

You know what I'm saying?

With the Tyreek, were you on the field when Tyreek got injured or did you see it on the jumbotron when that was going to be?

No, I was right there.

So we had ran like, I don't know if they call it a crash concept in your day, but it's like the dude in the slot runs like the 12-yard out and you got the under from number one.

The smash route.

Yeah, we smashed the smash route.

I ran a little under from number one and I seen the ball go over my head.

So I turned.

I'm like, and Reap caught it.

And then I just saw like, and then I seen his leg dangling.

And I was just like, like just instantly just like, it just brought me to the ground.

Like I ain't even know my body just didn't even know how to react.

Yeah, because they said he

suffered a dislocated knee, torn ACL, and maybe some other ligaments

damage.

it's tough seeing that.

So, obviously, you know, and uh, Mike McDaniel is telling the story of how he's, you know, he's joking with some of the guys, like, guys, you just make sure you get this win, knowing because look, you've been around this game enough, you know, when it's a serious injury.

Nobody had the doctor, doesn't have to tell you anything, you don't have to hear about a report.

You've been around this game enough.

You see that, you know, yeah, he's not coming back.

Yeah, straight away.

I turned around and I was like,

Come, come get him.

Come, they got to put him in the air cast immediately.

Yeah.

So

you was with Gruden.

I think you were Gruden because he's like, hey, this guy, he saw you.

What has been the biggest difference between Gruden and Mike McDaniel?

Because they both, this basically, the verbiage might be a little different, but this is the West Coast system.

Yeah, no, the similarities between the two, just coming from

the founding fathers, like Mike Shanahan and Gruden.

It's kind of easy for me to pick up the concept.

Like there's different words, different nuances, but they're both really like they're one of one individuals like there's i don't think i've ever met anybody with personalities like like either one of them they got their own unique sense of humor um but i mean they love ball for real and they love giving putting the guys in position to you know do something with their career do something with their lives you know so they uh it's really fun energy to be around i feel like both of them got just a distinct energy

i don't I don't know.

It's hard for you to say, but the word out is there have been reports that he was too lenient and guys were coming late to practice and guys were coming late to meetings and guys were overweight.

What have you seen in your short time there that lead you to believe that, you know what, he's the guy that can get this fixed.

He's the guy that can turn this around and get the dolphins going in the right direction.

I've seen a sense of urgency just since July from cleaning up, you know, like the fines that guys had from last year and just like all the little things.

It's just like, how the fuck are we doing this and thinking that we're going to win?

Like, Like, I feel like he's put in his energy and used his words to be like, hey, like, this is, this has got to change.

And, you know, of course, it starts with me, but at the same time, it's like, it's really up to the guys in the locker room to police this.

And I feel like the captains have really, really gone out their way for sure to make sure things are different from that regard.

You know, and results on the field, sometimes it's like, okay, it may take a while to get things going.

Like, that's how the league goes.

It's just super competitive.

But from the standpoint of little things like you just described, I haven't seen any of that this year.

And so it's like, all right, like once you have that out the way, like we can actually go somewhere.

Locker room controls the football team.

They police, they run.

You got to show me the team that has the strong locker room, and I'll show you a team that consistently wins.

You show me a team that the locker room, and the guys don't hold the other guys accountable.

And I'll show you a team.

Just let me, you let me go.

You put me in any locker room for a week.

And I don't know anything.

So I'm going in there blind.

I'm just going to happen to be be in the locker room.

I'm just going to be observing.

I'll tell you who's winning and who's losing.

Matter of fact, AD, since you came back, right, two years removed, obviously you get an opportunity to come back, play for the Dolphins.

Obviously, you have your team goals.

From an individual standpoint, two years removed for the game of football, what would be a successful season to you now that you've returned?

I think a successful year for me is...

you know, really just kind of keeping the same mindset I had before.

It's like, I don't necessarily know if

it'll be 100 catches.

I don't know if it'll be the metrics that they once were five, six years ago, but just the same process of like, however many opportunities it is, like those opportunities are going to get maximized is how I kind of try to measure success.

Try to get away from like the stats and everything like that.

And really, just kind of like being the leader, kind of being one of those guys like that Shannon was just discussing.

Like, I'm the oldest guy on the team, I think.

which

is wild.

Like

I turned 33 September 13th.

That ain't bad.

That's young.

That's you.

Right.

So just kind of like embodying that presence too.

And just kind of like some of the shit that I've been through coming in, going back, like going from where I was in my career, I can relate to where any of these dudes is at in their career from practice squad to getting cut to getting traded to on the rise.

Like just kind of stepping up in my leadership abilities, I would say as well.

Now that you're back in football, because when you stepped away from the game, you stepped into music.

Obviously, that's a passion of yours.

But now that you're back in football, have you put music on the back burner?

Is that something that you're going to pick back up once your football career is over?

Yeah, it's kind of on the back burner for now for sure.

Like I've, I think I've written

one verse or two since July

and like a hook or two for a song, but like I haven't really been doing anything.

It's been focused on football for real.

Like I got a lot of songs.

Like I'll like tease some shit, like put some music behind some posts that I'll put out, but all those songs were recorded before I even got back out here.

So and it'll be nice to take a break because I was going hard with it and creating in my time off.

And so I feel like it's a good flow for me to be back in ball.

And when it's time to pick the mic back up again, I feel like I'll be ready.

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Yeah, I mean, I haven't really heard a whole lot of rappers from Georgia Tech, but okay.

Hey,

I'm glad to do that.

You know, because

I guess it's a new thing, Daryl.

Hey, hey, we, we, we open to it.

Yeah.

Hey, you know, one of my hobbies and one of my passions is, you know, I write.

I've written for a few, a few artists.

so at any point you pick that mic back up let me know you know i've written for drake i've written for for for niki minaj i've written for little women you got you got real credits

oh yeah i got i got real credit if you ever i wrote for beyonce if you if you look at their credits on some of the songs that i've done i'm in the credits

huh you can't your connection up

I'm gonna show it to you.

I'm gonna send it to you.

But yeah,

we get in the studio, do a little something, duo, duo little duet or something say less bro hey i need to know what's the best what's the best cigar lounge in uh in south florida bro i'm in uh like fort lauderdale area hey hey listen we could go together smoke on the water smoke on the water

smoke on the water right there right of um royal palm royal palm boulevard

yeah or

no darren i don't do nothing but smoke them uh them uh daniel marshals

Hey, send me my cigars, man.

Whoa, whoa, I'm talking to the gas.

This ain't got nothing to do with you, Ocho.

I'm telling you, man, what I smoke,

you don't even smoke.

Oh, cho.

You see, all I'm saying is that the Daniel Marshall, those are 24-carat.

You know, I got like, I got a box of those.

Yeah,

can you send me some cigars?

AD,

yeah, on Pembroke Pines, Pembroke Pines Boulevard, there's another cigar bar called Aficionado's.

The two I go to is real nice.

I ain't smoking no 24-carat gold, but

yeah, you're the gold leaf.

You look gold.

Somebody, you know, Daniel Marshall, when next time you go to the cigar bar, that they're gonna be in the case.

You just can't go pull them because you know, they like a they like 85 to 120 a stick, but you know, nah, uh, AD, don't listen to him.

Them sticks cost $2.89 a part.

We all bad.

Listen, yeah, they 289.

Oucho, why are you mad?

Because I got a box of them.

Damn.

I see you a couple.

Hey, AD, them, them sticks was probably sent to him by accident.

They were probably for me.

You don't smoke cigars, huh?

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

We'll get, we'll get.

Darren, in 2020, you founded the Darren Waller Foundation with the mission to equip youth to avoid and overcome addiction to drugs and alcohol, support the youth and their family during the recovery and treatment journey.

I don't know how well our audience knows, but you were originally drafted by the Ravens.

I mean, a guy that's your size, six, five and a half, 255 pounds, can run like you can run.

You're a matchup problem.

No linebackers doing anything with you.

Safeties, they're just too small.

People are putting their best corner.

You beat Sauce for a touchdown.

You were getting, when you were at your prime, when you were with the Raiders, I thought you were going to get my record that day, too.

I think you had like 15 catches for 200 yards.

I'm like, damn, he go get it.

To overcome what you overcame.

When you were at your darkest, did you understand like, man, I'm throwing this great opportunity away did you did you understand when you're in it do you understand or do you realize that you actually have an addiction who told you you have an addiction when did you realize you had an addiction that's a great question i feel like in the moment i don't think you can

i think you're too numb at least i was like for me like the the drinking and and and like that was to numb a lot of things i was feeling thinking experiencing so in those moments where you know a normal person would feel like oh fuck like i'm throwing this away like i don't have access to that feeling like it's all kind of shut off you know what i'm saying and i had guys like uh ben watson was with the ravens when i was there like right before i got suspended and he was like if you could just like lock in bro like you don't know where this could go like like a whole bunch of people just telling me that and i'm just like i can't really receive it because i also don't really have that much confidence um in myself so i realized i was addicted when uh because i odd in 2017 it was like a month before what would have been my third season and i was probably gonna be a starting tight end in Baltimore that year.

That was 2017.

And

yeah, I OD'd and then went to rehab a month later.

And I'm just sitting there listening to everything they're saying.

I'm like, damn, like, I definitely, that's you 100% of me.

And it's all throughout my family.

You know what I'm saying?

Like

throughout like the generations of my family, it's kind of like impacted a lot of people.

So it's passed on to me.

And then being able to have the opportunity to be like, all right, I could change the course of generations going forward for my family and also just, you know be somebody that people can look to because like shit i've been fucked up plenty of times and but they can still be successful whatever they got going

yeah how how old were you when when you started drinking or you started dabbling with drugs were you young or whether you got to college you started drinking you know college atmosphere was it in high school i was pretty young i was like 15.

my i got into uh like painkillers like the hydrocodon five milligrams 10 milligrams first uh started smoking weed and drinking after that probably like junior year and

was just kind of off from there.

It got real crazy through college and through my first couple of years in the league.

And then so it's about like a 10 year run from like 15 to I got sober like a month for my 25th birthday.

What

would you want your, what message would you like to share with the youth about what they can potentially overcome, given you're the best per you're the best teacher because you've overcome something.

You know a lot of what these kids are dealing with.

You know a a lot of the signs.

You know a lot of the symptoms.

You know a lot of, man, I'm all right.

No, you're not.

Because that seat that you're sitting in, I sat in that seat for about a decade.

Now I'm in this seat and I want to share with you the message of how you can beat this addiction.

The message for me is just like.

There are so many different ways that we try to mask what we really feel in or who we really are.

We compare ourselves to so many different people.

There has to be some level of return to like authenticity, find like a comfortability, like a peacefulness and a joy and just being like exactly who you are.

Cause I feel like me, this young kid, I was like, it all stemmed from the pain I felt from feeling like I was always like the odd man out or people thought I was too weird or I had big ears, big feet, I was getting roasted or like it all started from all these, all these little things that I was like, man, I don't feel like I'm good enough.

And I want to turn to things that make me feel like I'm good enough or at least forget the fact that I'm not good enough.

And when really it's like, there are people around you that are going through the same things.

We just all try to act like we don't have stuff going on in our lives.

So it's really just being yourself.

You're going to attract people to you that love you for who you are and that will support you whatever you go through.

So I would just say, you know, there is really no peace, no sobriety possible if you don't find ways to really deal with the pain and the trauma that happened earlier in your life or whenever in your life.

And just, yeah, finding peace with just being who you are, whether people like it or not.

I like that.

Happiness.

Happiness is, you know, people say, I found happiness, but happiness is something that you create.

Peace is something that you create.

How long did it take you to get to that point that you says, I'm at peace with Darren?

I'm happy with Darren.

It's been elusive, man, to be honest.

Like, I think my journey with like sobriety and just kind of seeing life differently started like 2017.

And I feel like there were a couple of years in there where I was like, okay, like I'm moving in the right direction.

And then there were some years in there where I'm like, I don't know.

I feel like I'm kind of moving away.

Like I'm still sober, but there's still like,

still something that's left blocking a little bit

from, you know, say 21 to 23.

And then it's like, since retiring, it's opened up nothing but a path for me to just go as deep as possible with those kind of things and really just look at myself in the mirror.

And now I feel like it's like a lot more attainable.

I feel like the happiness is fleeting, but it's like I'm a lot more content with.

my life.

Like I don't need, I can step into football and just be like, what?

I'm going to just, I want to have this experience.

is what i want to do i don't need it to do something for me to validate me to do x y and z it's just like i'm sure this is the way i'm choosing to live my life

and i'm gonna i'm gonna enjoy this

and that's dope man the funny thing about it too i'm really glad i mean i'm really glad you're able to be authentic and and and raw and answering these questions i don't think the questions are phenomenal too because there there are people that are probably in the chat there are people that are going to see this and and people that are dealing with the same issues you are and not knowing how to navigate those situations or how to deal with it.

And you being a testimony and being someone that has had issues, but gotten the help and look where you are now.

That, I mean, dude, that's an amazing story.

And kudos to you for having, for one, the discipline to do it and stick to it and be able to live out your childhood dream.

Again, because most times people don't get a second chance.

Appreciate that, man.

Darren, Darren, we're going to get you out of here on this one.

Now that you're back, have you put a timetable or time limit on how long you want to play?

Or are you taking it year by year?

Or you're like, you know what?

I really like to get two or three more in.

Or you saying, you know what?

All I know is that I'm going to play 2025.

And I worry about 2026 and 2026 and beyond once that time arrives.

But right now, I'm in the here.

I'm in the now.

And that's all I can do.

I think you really just said it right there, man, because it's like after experiences like monday because i came in like i said i got i got hurt my first couple weeks of training i'm like damn bro we on this again like this is still this still happening and uh so i'm like there's doubt there's fear like did i even make the right decision coming back but then having like a night like monday it's like well wait like

this feels like there's still like plenty left here maybe there is something more in the future but it's like I feel like, like you just said, playing this season, giving this season my all, and then re-evaluating from there.

And so I'm open to everything.

I don't want to say I'm done.

This is just one chapter because, you know, I don't really know.

Every time I thought I've had my life figured out in which direction it should go, I feel like God has flipped the script and been like, enough, we going this way now.

Cause I, I was, I was, I was set on not playing football ever again, but it's like, here I am.

So I'm trying to just remain open.

Well, Darren, thanks for joining us tonight, man.

Congratulations on all the success.

Everything that you've overcome lets us know that there is a God and that anything is possible.

Stay healthy.

And after the season, come back and talk to us.

Sure, man.

Appreciate you always.

I appreciate you coming on, man.

Darren Waller, tight end for the Miami Dolphins.

To go through what he's gone through, Ocho, to be able to overcome because, you know, hey.

Like you said, he was about to start in Baltimore

and ended up getting suspended a couple of times.

And they moved on.

And now he ends up with the Raiders.

And he's a Pro Bowl player.

I mean, he's at the top.

He's one of those top players.

And then, you know, all of a sudden, abruptly, you know, he steps away from the game.

And for two years, he's like, and he's like, you know what?

I want to come back.

And kudos to the Dolphins for giving the opportunity.

Now, I don't know if there were other teams out there willing to give him an opportunity, but I know the Dolphins was one because he's playing with the Dolphins.

And so it's always great when you, you know,

you're here.

You're down here, and then you're back up here again.

And so, like you said, he doesn't know if he'll ever be what he once was in his prime.

But for him to come back and to show that there's a possibility, because Ocho, you and I talk about it all the time.

It's easier to get into the league than get out and try to get your butt back in.

Back in, yeah.

But listen,

if you're really good and you leave a good impression before you leave, the chances of you coming back, they pretty good.

He's a mismatch nightmare.

You think about, think about this.

Remember when Jimmy Graham's with the Saints?

Yep.

You see what he looked like?

Yep.

Gronk.

I'm not saying he's Gronk.

I'm not saying he's Jimmy Graham, but I'm just saying that he's a mismatch nightmare.

Yes.

He can go out there out wide and go against receivers.

I mean,

he's really good.

And he got a small sample size that when they played Monday night.

Now, our second guest joining us.

Won the Super Bowl with the Rams.

Played unbelievable.

A tackling machine.

Here he is, starting middle linebacker for the Seattle Seahawks, Ernest Jones.

That's it.

Yes, sir.

How y'all doing?

How you doing, bro?

How y'all doing?

Man, we're doing good.

I'm here on the road, chilling.

Hey, I can tell you something real quick.

Talk to me.

Hey, do you feel blessed that you ain't got to deal with me in today's game?

Honestly, I wish you was out there.

We wouldn't have to worry about you too much.

You don't think so?

But you know, I would have ran you.

You know, we got a Devin witherspoon out there, right?

A Devin witherspoon.

The only witherspoon I know is the kind I eat with.

That's it.

And running me over wouldn't never happen, man.

But, but I'm 236.

Oh, you know what?

Ray did to you.

Who?

You know, Ray.

Uh, earnest man thanks for joining us bro you fit right in with in in seattle i mean you having a great you having a let's go back the rams bro you playing out of your mind you 130 140 tackles what happened what happened with the rams i mean we still trying to figure it out honestly we we don't know we know we really don't know um

all i know is we we ended uh training camp practice in houston i get off the uh the plane to head to my car and I get the call like, hey, we finna trade you.

And I didn't really see it coming.

Thought it was a joke at first, but they were real serious.

Hold on.

Were you asking for a contract?

Something had to precipitate this.

We never even got there.

I never got to talk numbers with them.

Just just nothing, nothing.

It came out of nowhere for us on our end.

But honestly, i'm fortunate and glad it happened though because landing in i mean seattle really changed everything for me

now you get to you get you get to be yourself you go to a team that seattle they pride themselves on defense ever since the legion of boom when all those guys with earl and shirm and chancellor and all those guys uh abrill and and and and bennett from their wag be wags from that time on this has been a defensive-led football team and you land at a defensive-led football team.

You mentioned a Witherspoon, you mentioned Woland, you mentioned the guys that you guys now have.

How has that transition seemed been so seamless?

Because it seems like you were drafted to Seattle, like you were born to play in Seattle.

I agree with you there.

That's how I feel.

I think the biggest thing that differed from there than a lot of the places that I've been is 53 other guys in that room, in that locker room, man, they dogs, man.

They play football the right way.

It's fucking the love of the game.

And getting in there in October, once I was there, they welcomed me in so seamlessly, and it just was a perfect fit.

Now, I don't know if you know this.

They traded you to the traded you to Seattle, right?

You know what that means.

You know, when the Rams, when a team trades you within the division,

you know, they don't have a whole lot of respect for you, Artist.

You know that, right?

Well, they traded me to Tennessee first.

Oh, well, you gotta see what you're buying there.

Because see, they tried to keep you out of the day

but now you got to see me twice

so so now we okay let so you look up there you say you know what we got uh we got y'all such and such week we got y'all such and such a week i don't know what's gonna happen but i promise you y'all gonna feel 13 oh yeah 100 i'll be there whatever time the game start i'll be there early

what it what is it what has it been like playing out there at that stadium i remember being out there that 12 man, boy, you can't hear nothing, boy.

Boy, nothing, but what is that feeling like, man, being out there with those?

I mean, you like you said, you can't hear nothing.

I remember uh coming up here when I was with the Rams and you know, the stadium, of course, I'm on defense and their offense is going, so I really don't hear the noise.

But man, my first game here, uh, when we played Buffalo, I was like, this is real.

Yeah, the 12,

they show up everywhere, anywhere, rain, sleet, snow, or hell, they're going to show up.

It's just, it's good to have a, you know, have a fan base that comes and support us, and we got to show out for them.

Seahawks, they're allowing the second fewest points, the third best red zone defense, fourth most takeaways, sixth most sacks, sixth best run defense.

How have you guys, the first at the quarter poll, how have you guys been able to play so well, so quickly on defense?

I guess for us, I think the cliche answer would be like, you know, we trust in the guys, you know, next to us.

We put in the work.

But I'm going to be honest with you, man.

Mike McDonald, he's the man.

He puts us in great positions to

get after quarterbacks, get after opposing offenses.

Throughout the week, he gets us ready.

And then on Sunday, he calls a great game.

So a lot of it has to do with our ability and us going out there and executing.

But our coach got us dialed in right now.

When you look, think about it.

You was on that team that won the Super Bowl.

Von Miller.

You got AD.

You got Floyd.

You had Ram.

You look, I mean, have you ever thought about it?

Have you, I mean, did you go home and be like, damn, boy, we got a this defense for real?

Man, shoot, every day that whole year, I was just thinking about it, man.

Before the Super Bowl, I'm sitting up there reminiscing on like, okay, big moment.

This is what you've been kind of working for.

And I think I ended it with like, shoot, just don't fuck it up for Aaron Donald.

Just don't mess it up for them.

So I went out there and just went out there and played and balled.

But man, that learning from the best there is to play, AD,

Von Miller out there getting sacks.

I mean, even Weddell, Weddell came in and showed me what it's like to be a true teammate, true leader.

So big credits and shout out to those guys.

What was it like watching Aaron Donald?

Because I remember watching him come out and I saw him at the Super Bowl before the draft.

And they're like, I was like, damn, who?

I said, man, that's Aaron Donald.

I see that little rascal.

He the one to be caught.

Because when you look at him, he not a, I mean,

he has wide shoulders, but you look at him, he like six foot tall, like, man, him?

Boy, when I watched his first game when he was a rookie, well, I watched him at the, uh, when he was not at Pitt.

Yeah.

I was like, ain't no way that him doing all that, raising all that hell.

Raising hell, taking on double teams, splitting double team, getting skinny.

man doing everything

everything you can think of when you first saw him what did you think when you first saw him what did you think earnest When I first saw him, I'm going to be honest, I didn't know too much, too much about him.

Like, of course, he was Aaron Donald, had been in the league a couple years, but I wasn't really all the way hip to him like I should have been.

And I can remember the first day I was out there giving calls and he didn't get the call.

And he told me to speak up.

And the way he said it just caught me off guard.

So I'm like,

I can't let this grown man talk to me like that.

But to sit back and watch him, I found myself a lot of times watching him, watching him

create habit, destroy stuff.

And there's been times, man, he stopped practicing.

They told him to get out.

So

I've seen some things.

Because you can't get anything done.

If he's giving it 100% effort, you see what he does on Sunday.

Now, everybody don't got a Zach Martin or Quentin Nelson to be able to deal with him.

What's the guy in Seattle?

I mean, not Seattle, but the 49ers.

What's the left tackle name, Ocho?

Trent.

Big Trent.

Everybody don't got that.

So if he says, you know what, I'm just going to wreck shop today.

Y'all ain't going to get nothing done.

You're not going to get anything done.

And he decides when he wants to do that.

That's crazy.

Your squad started the season with the 20th best odds to make the Super Bowl.

Every publication had you guys picked dead last.

Now.

All of a sudden,

it looked like you or you and you, it might come down to you and you.

It's turning, huh?

It's turning.

That was the plan, though.

That's the plan.

We know what it is.

I firmly believe when the NFC West, when all four of those teams are smoking and on fire, man, that's one of the hardest divisions to come out of.

So

we know what's on the line.

We know who we got to get through to get there.

Last game of season, this is for the division.

Rams.

Takes on the Seahawks.

This is for the division.

What can we expect from Ernest Jones?

Oh, man, a performance.

I'm ready to ball out.

A performance, something sweet, slow, and sexy.

And you know what's funny?

Defense, y'all, the numbers speak for itself already a quarterway through the season.

But that goddamn Sam Donald and JSN.

They might be the next big thing.

Man,

that duo right there is growing.

To see where they came from from OTAs when offensively, they were learning new, couldn't really figure it out to see them guys where they're at now.

And this is just a start.

Like those are, Sam's a baller, cool, composed, and JSN is a quiet killer out there.

Were you surprised the AD stepped away when he did?

Because you're talking about a guy that played 10 years.

He won three MVPs.

He won,

I mean, he was phenomenal.

He's an eight-time, nine-time first-team all-pro.

I mean,

and he's just like, you know what?

I don't want to do do it no more.

I don't have the passion to train

what it requires me to be the AD that y'all see every Sunday.

That takes the offseason.

And I'm done with that.

I truly, I could say, I wasn't surprised because we kind of knew coming into that year that it was going to be it.

But I'd say you just said it.

For him to, you know, I guess be honest with himself and know that, you know, I don't have what it takes to be Aaron Donald.

I don't want to come out here and do the training and steal their money

and just, you know, be taking like you just said

um

it was it was kind of honorable for him to put it up the way he did uh went out on his sword went out at the top of his game and you know you got to talk about him from for years now is one of the best

yeah and the funny thing too um and when you think about it you think about aaron donnar and all his accomplished you look at his accolades you look at his resume that's coming to the nfl he won a championship what the hell else does he have to prove right

he had nothing else to prove i mean a lot of people don't have anything to prove but they're hard to walk away from 30 million years.

Did he walk away from it?

I think they were still paying my boy a little bit.

I mean, because I mean, like I said, it wasn't like you saw slippage in his game.

He could still split the double team.

He's one-on-one.

Hey, and he lined up.

He turning every door.

Oh, this, oh, this one locked.

Oh, man, they left this one open.

He going to stay right there.

He moving up and down the line.

And he's telling everybody, I mean, your offensive line coach for the opposing team,

number 99, you circle him, he's going to get a chance to whip all y'all ass.

So don't be worried about him.

Let's go to the next guy.

Because that's what's going to happen.

He going to whip everybody's ass.

And you have to, guys like him and LT and

Reggie White and Bruce Smith, you had to account for them.

They would wreck your entire offense if you did not have...

One miss, he gonna hit your quarterback in the back of the head and you're gonna put it on the ground.

That's how he was, man.

Just a monster, man.

Just wrecking shot every day.

Like, it's some, it's, it's some stories that he probably wouldn't want told online, but that man, that man is a monster.

That, yeah, that he was whipping all the offensive line with ass.

They couldn't.

Nobody block him.

And he said, look here, if y'all give me a little, a little fee, I'll take it easy on y'all today.

They had one-on-one.

You had one-on-one in training camp.

You had one-on-one sometime during the course of the year.

Yeah.

Ain't nobody blocking him.

I'll see him at some point.

Yeah.

I mean, what you gonna do?

He getting that shade, he getting that, he getting that three take.

Well, hell, he can get into five.

He could come, he could go up and down the line, he can get into a nine, he can get into a seven, he can get into a five, a three, a tilt.

That matter what you gonna do, and you know, it's funny.

And he uses his hands.

I've never seen a D a lineman look use his hands like he could.

He's almost like a wide receiver.

I mean, if you look at the way he moved his hand, Ocho, how we swimming, how we knocking people's hands away, that's how he was as a defensive lineman.

And then he catches you, he pushed the arm up, and did he get skinny?

Ah, I gotta gotta get I'm in there.

Hey, hold on.

Hold on.

They got a bad boy over there in Seattle right now, too.

Now

who that?

99.

Oh, yeah.

Williams.

Yeah, they got a bad.

I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald, but he's a bad boy.

Bad man.

Listen, I've got.

the luxury to play behind some great defensive tackles.

No's, man, he's up there.

He's one of the ones, man.

And that whole front, that whole front four, whoever they roll out, Jan Reed, we got Byron Murphy, those guys, man, they keep me protected and I just fly around and make plays.

And you just get the flow.

You just like, hey, keep it clean.

Keep it clean.

What?

When you come in, I want to know the goals.

So when you come, when you start the season, when you get ready, it's like, okay, I'm going to get ready to go to training camp.

Give me some of the goals that you set for yourself.

Oh, man, I'm sorry.

I think for me, some of the goals that I set

when it comes to coming out of training camp,

are you saying on a personal level or just far as the thing?

Yeah, on a personal level.

Obviously, you want to win.

Obviously, you're like, if I do what I'm supposed to do, we're going to win because

I'm going to get me about 150 of these things.

No, for sure.

Me coming into this season specifically, this is the healthiest I've been.

I dealt with a knee issue for the past two years and I'm still able to play at a pretty good level.

But for me, this year was coming in healthy.

And then it was from that, let's take the next step in my game.

Let's let's start affecting these passes that come across this middle and coverage a little bit more.

Let's be more fluid out in space, make those tackles, and let's just see what happens, man.

Of course, I want to go.

I want to go all pro.

I want to be a pro bowler.

But I'm all about winning, getting there, and doing what's best for my team.

You want another, you another piece of jewelry, huh?

I needed this one over here getting lonely, man.

I need another one.

Do let me ask you a question.

Do you wear it?

Like when you go on road trips, you suited and booty.

Have you pulled it out?

Do you wear it?

Are you just like, nah, I got to get you?

I got to get you.

I got to get you a partner.

I got to get you on.

I don't wear it.

Today, I pulled it out today for the first time.

Today was the first time in a while.

But I don't wear it.

I'm waiting to get a twin sister.

Yeah, you got to get a twin.

You got to get a sin for it.

Because he lonely up there.

You know, he's like, damn, I ain't got nobody to talk to.

I ain't got nobody to holler at or nothing.

What's going on?

I need it.

And

we keep going the way we're going and just keep getting better.

I think we got a great

shot at it.

You got anything else?

No, no, no, I'm done.

I'm done.

My last thing for OJ.

Hey,

that Madden overall, we got it.

Tell me what you got to tighten up.

Hey, listen.

I take care of the receivers.

and the dbs i don't really operate with the with the labs and stuff what you need speed you need script to to me it's overall i think i think we lacking a couple things the tackling i think we do need to be better um missed four tackles last year ain't too many people on the missing four tackles we got to get that up a little bit right

so what's your overall right now like an 81

yeah damn one 81 yeah yeah that that real low that real low i don't agree with that listen i got i got a meeting with the ea team in the morning i'm gonna address that i'm gonna bring it up i'm gonna bring it up like i'm really not in a position to bring it up if it's not a skilled position, like receive a DB, but I can see the table for you because it's on film.

I appreciate that.

That's all I that's all I play for is the film.

I got you, I got you.

I got you.

Who y'all got this?

That's gonna be a good one.

Yeah,

they got a, they, they got, they, hey, they, they, hey, the bucky, uh, Bucky Irving and White, they can run the ball.

Baker throwing it a.

That's gonna be a good matchup.

It's gonna be a good one.

They come out to Lumen.

So we'll, see.

See them Sunday.

See,

I played in Lumen before y'all became, before y'all wasn't good.

It wasn't a crowd noise.

Matter of fact, Ocho, you know how to be like this here?

I was like, I was on the Poland team, like, get it up.

Damn.

It's gonna pop this week.

It's gonna pop this week.

Oh, for sure.

So, when you got to Seattle, did you go to the market?

I haven't been yet.

I haven't been here yet.

Hey, Mark, what the hell you waiting on?

And you got to go kick it out.

I got here in October.

The only thing I was trying to do is figure out a playbook.

I get you.

I was trying to figure that out, but we're going to get there.

Me and my wife are going to get down there at some point.

So,

you like seafood?

You like fish?

I go for fish.

I'm allergic to shrimp, but other seafood, I'm solid.

I'm allergic to shellfish, also.

It's just shrimp for me, which is crazy.

No, shrimp, lobster, crab, oysters, scallop.

It's a stall.

Jordan.

Now, I can eat, I can eat

calamari, calamari,

but that's the difference.

That's a crustacean and the mullets.

So they're two different.

I'll tell you your body later, Ocho.

But anyway.

Hey, hey, you don't, what's your diet like?

You're not one of them healthy eaters and eat all that good stuff.

Ocho,

I'm going to be mad here.

I'm like you.

I'm going to get it in.

I'm going to get it.

I will say I ain't been to McDonald's in a minute, but I'm going to get full.

I'm going to just eat.

That's what I'm talking about.

And see, and people want to understand, they want to question: well, why is he so good?

Why is he great?

Why is he one of the best NFL?

You know why?

Because he eats the way he's supposed to.

I'm on the South Georgia.

Hey,

clean that diet up.

I guarantee you, all pro.

Hey, you clean the diet up.

You're going to clean that diet up.

First team all pro.

Promo.

I got you.

Get you about get you about five force fumbles, three picks.

Now, you know, with 135 tackles four force fumbles two fumble recoveries and three picks now they're talking about dpoy that's what they're talking about i don't know if you want that or not but you clean that dial get it done i better get it done

that's what i'm talking about hey listen don't be listening to oh joe hey i i'll tell you one thing whatever you put in your system ain't got nothing to do with making none of that he just named

i got you

Ernest, man, thank you, man.

Appreciate you joining us tonight.

Best of luck.

Appreciate y'all.

Hey, and when that season turns out the way you want it, come back and talk to me.

I got you.

Thank y'all for having me.

Appreciate you, bro.

Ernest Jones, the fourth starting middle linebacker for the Seattle Seahawks, man.

He's an unbelievable player.

I mean, I was shocked.

I was absolutely shocked that they when they traded him,

because I didn't see it, because I'm like, man, no, no, he could really play.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

No, yeah, he could, he could really, really play.

So I'm absolutely shocked that they moved him.

Yeah, the funny thing too about it, Unc when you, when you, when you move a player that's that good it makes that kind of impact at that position that means there's somebody else that they see behind him that they believe in

and i'm not sure who that is right now

well

a no one man's uh trash is somebody else's treasure

Because they got, the Seahawks got an unbelievable, hell, I'm surprised, hell, he didn't stay in Tennessee.

Yeah.

Tennessee, look, no, the guy can play.

Hey, chat, y'all know I call it like it is.

He can play.

Well, listen,

he for real.

He in the right place.

OJoe, A.J.

Brown, spoke to the media about why he's frustrated with the Eagles' offense being stagnant at times.

Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

Yeah.

But I think it's fair to

want the ball, to get us going.

Like last week against the Rams.

I caught the slugo.

Like the offense going next play, opened up in Dallas Growder.

The safety came over to my side, and you know, opening it up.

So, you know, I don't think it's a bad thing for one to ball.

It's not just for targets or anything to put numbers up, but no, I see that

we're struggling, and I'm a guy that

wants the ball in those times when we can't find a way, give it to me.

Like when the game's on the line, give the ball to me.

I want that.

I want that pressure.

I put it on myself, you know, and I work hard for it.

And so, and that's what, you know, the

misconstruction or whatever you

misconstrue, you know, whatever perspective

you can about me.

But, you know, it is what it is.

You know, and I don't care, to be honest, because my teammates know.

My teammates know that when the game's on the line, look at me, you know, and I want everybody in the stadium to know that.

You know, that's not a secret.

You know, I'm not shying away from that.

And so that's when you see that frustration of that home comes out.

And so I see what's struggling.

And I believe that you give the ball to me, I'm going to open up things and I'm going to get this thing going.

You can put it on my back.

i like that you like the each accountability for his thing yeah

i like that i do too

the only thing the only thing i the only thing i would say yeah is that

keep it in housing because the perception of how it's going to be perceived right is completely different oh joe you know optics and perception is everything yeah in our business and this and the one thing he did say you heard what he said towards the end is even if you guys misconstrue what I'm saying or what the meaning is that I'm trying to get across, I don't care.

And you have to have that mentality as well.

He has that, he has that mama mentality in a sense.

He has a killer mentality at the receiver position.

He's out there by himself, huh?

He's on the island by himself.

So he's reliant on 10 other people.

Oh, he played.

No, he plays a dependent position.

Exactly.

You had the mercy of the quarterback.

Hey, every time.

So

when we're struggling or the type of team we are, the way our offense is, we run the ball to open up the pass.

Well, you know what?

I'm a player that's here where we can throw the ball to open up the run.

And I want to be that guy.

I put the pressure and the onus on myself.

Getting me the ball in these situations.

You know, the hard thing is, Ocho,

is that when you win a certain way, the team believes that's the only way they can win.

So, so,

what do they do?

Say, well, we won it last year.

Well, you have to evolve because Saquon is not, the holes are not there for Saquon this year like they were last year.

So, clearly, the defense is saying, we are not going to let 26 beat us at all.

If you guys want to beat us, he's going to have to throw the ball.

Yeah.

And AJ said, well, damn, can we throw the ball when they don't know we're going to throw the ball?

Hell, if we just throw the ball on third downs,

you make it really hard.

But, you know, I'll be open on first down, too.

I'll be open on second down.

And then hold on.

What an opportunity.

And one more thing.

One more thing.

Another thing that they need to do.

Let's be a little bit more creative.

Let's be a little bit more creative when it comes to the type of routes that you're giving A.J.

Brown the run.

I could name him two based on the split every time.

The under.

Under and the slant.

Listen, if he's two yards outside the number, he running the goddamn slant.

If he on top of the numbers, he running the goddamn curl.

If he's

a split is condensed, he run the quick stick route.

Yep.

It's the same concept every time.

Like, what the hell are we doing?

That's it.

Oh, Joe, Travis Kelsey spoke about A.J.

Brown's tweet saying, you're 4-0, boss.

Come on, man.

It's frustrating for AJ right now.

Clearly,

he's going to social media to show it.

When I show my frustration, when we aren't rolling as as an offense.

But it's uh, but it's also really hard for me to get mad when we're winning.

I don't find that energy when we're winning, putting up points and winning football games.

That's all I said.

That was my entire point.

It's hard.

People, you oh, Joe, you can say,

Well, I'm hungry.

I give you food.

Man, this ain't no wagu.

This ain't no hard grat and potatoes.

Man, this ain't no lobster, mac, and cheese.

So,

and that was my point that was all i was trying to say it's hard to get people on your side yeah when you're winning right billy wants to win yeah absolutely absolutely and so when you're winning it's hard to get people like yeah aj you're right they'll be like aj we winning yes i want you to catch passes but not as much as i want to win the game

and so that's all i would say and i get what people say and people like with travis kelcey yeah he gets with a when they not winning

yep, he's gonna act up when that offense is stagnant.

And that's what AJ is saying.

So it's just hard.

AJ,

go talk to Jalen, go talk to Siriani, and go talk to your damn your offensive coordinator.

Yeah, that's who I'm talking to.

I ain't gonna put no tweet out.

I ain't gonna say I ain't gonna put nothing on no Twitter or Joe.

I'm going to talk to them because I got a direct line.

I know, hey, I know where your office is, and I know I got her

phone number.

You don't think he done did did that?

You don't think he done did that?

Because we had the same problems last year.

You don't think he's done that?

I think the first step is he probably went and had those conversations already.

And nothing has changed.

Nothing changed.

Now we're in the next year and the same shit still going on.

But again, I'll give you a prime example.

Monday night, what did you see Chase do?

Chase walked right up to Zach Taylor, didn't it?

And he was frustrated.

He walked right up to it.

He was frustrated.

He was frustrated.

And

I'm curious to see.

And it don't get no easy this week, honk.

It don't get no easy this week.

They play Detroit.

Oh, Lord.

They play Detroit.

And you know, Detroit put points on the board, Ocho.

But who are you telling?

They scored 50 weeks before last, and they scored 40 the last game.

We don't have no choice.

Zach Taylor spoke to the meeting today and said, there's no need for us to bring another quarterback in, a veteran, because we believe in Jake Browning.

I said, well, well shoot if we believe in jake browning i ain't got no choice but to get on that bus too let me guess where i'm at right now

where in cincinnati guess who i'm going to talk to in the morning

who the team

because i'll be what you're going to talk about i'd be damned if i get embarrassed sunday

i'll be damn

I'm I'm going to the game Sunday.

Obviously, I'm going to leave the game.

I'm going to the game Sunday.

Don't worry about it.

You You can leave at halftime.

It'll be over.

Hey, listen.

Hey,

but when you, when they get this game.

Hey, chat, we're going to start on time.

Hey, when they get this pep talk for me, when they get this pep talk for me before that game,

it's a wrap.

I'm telling you.

I'm telling you.

Okay.

I can't wait to hear this pep talk.

Hey, matter of fact, you know what?

I'm so happy.

And just speaking back

about, like, I know you ain't sent me none of my gifts, but I got a nice gift for you.

I got a nice gift.

Ocho, what haven't I sent you?

Hold on.

I got a nice gift for you to show you my appreciation and thanks for giving me the opportunity.

I got you an awesome gift.

You know what, Ocho?

I'm going to send you.

You know what, Ocho?

I'm going to send you your gift.

I'm going to send you your.

You didn't even ask me what the gift was.

Nah, I don't need to know.

The whole point is, okay, Ocho, what's the gift?

I got tickets for me and you to sit front row,

front row, and we can go, we got backstage passes so we can take pictures and stuff at the NBA Young Boy concert, October 13th.

Where's that?

In Miami.

All right, listen, listen, listen, wait, before you say anything, I know how you like to fly.

I already got the private jet charter to pick you up, bring you to Miami.

I got a driver for you to bring you to the concert.

I got you two security guards.

Oh, yo, I don't know one song NBA Youngboy sing, man.

I don't either.

What you need to do is go listen to the song Rebels Kick It.

You can start there, and then I'll send you other stuff up to date that can catch you up to what you're going to hear at the concert.

Can you give me a Chris Brown ticket?

I know Chris Brown.

I know what about Drake.

See, you don't, hey,

we, hey, you, you, you, a YN right now.

You a YN.

And we,

hey, we going.

I'm an ON.

i'm an oh in hey what's oh in stand for

an old ninja

hey listen hey listen i got you the lime green bandana to tie around your neck i got you a leather vest oh lord

listen and wear some black air force ones hey we're gonna be in there cutting up you hear me

man

You gotta give me, I mean, if I'm gonna go to a car, I ain't been to a concert, man.

I know.

Hey, uh, we're gonna.

Adele was the last last concert and she was uh when she was at uh uh had the uh residency yeah oh john you gotta you gotta you gotta give me something easy man damn oh this is easy he gonna hey listen let me he gonna bring us on stage right nah i don't need to be out there hey yeah

i'm on i'm on hey oh joe i'm on probation for the rest of 25.

i know but this ain't got nothing to do with that though i'm saying i just i i just can't i can't be at something like that you know what i'm saying it gonna send it gonna send the wrong message my probation officer gonna get me what message This message, this message is about living life.

This message is turning up.

This message is having fun.

It's about freedom.

The rest of 20, the rest of 25, not 26.

I'm, you know, I will get back out there, but it needs to be, you know,

oh, come on, work with me, oh, you're work with me.

I'll be working with you.

That's why I be going to the NBA Young Boy concert.

This is what you need.

And you need to be

You need you could come up out your shirt.

Then you're going to have that the live green bandana.

Oh, no.

Man, look here.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm with you, man.

I'm just going to go.

Hey, I got to sit there without Ocho.

It's too late.

I already got the charter.

I already got the tickets.

Oh, Joe.

I already got the tickets.

I need to go somewhere.

Let me go to a John Legend.

Let me go to

Anthony Hamilton.

Let me get.

So, maybe, maybe I could do like a Drake or Chris Brown.

I can't do no young boy.

I'm going to tell you like this.

Either you go to the young boy concert with me i'm gonna beat you up now you got you got two choices you get your ass whooped

i think that's what i'm about to take

i'm about to take that one

ocho man you oh

man you know right oh you know your boy right now i gotta you know

hey i'm telling you when you hey listen when you get in that atmosphere at that concert i'm telling you you're gonna feel like damn i ain't felt like this in a long time.

You just, you just, you get loose, man.

You just,

and then hold on.

We're going to be in the, listen, we're going to be in the crowd and we're going to be standing on our chairs and stuff.

Getting

going crazy.

I'm going to have to say, I'm going to have to say that.

Hey, I got y'all.

I'm back at 26.

I'm back at 26.

Fall of 26.

I didn't already told NBA Youngboy we coming, man.

Hey, Ocho, you know my motto.

Fall of 26.

I'm a dark-skinned slave.

I'm outside.

You know what I'm saying?

Ocho.

I'm outside.

You know, that's where I'm at.

Give me 26.

26.

I got a little.

Hey, come on, work with me.

Chad, tell him to work with me, man.

Damn.

I'm working with you.

I done spent $12,000 on these tickets right in the front.

Now, don't do that.

I got your chart.

I got your chart of chat.

I got you two securities.

So nobody, can't nobody bother you?

It's just not a good look for me right now.

You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

It's a good look.

Yeah, as a matter of fact, Ocho, and matter of fact,

the first big function I want people to see me at, I want to be coming out of church.

Maybe I go to the parlour house in Dallas.

Maybe I come out of

PDJ's church.

Maybe they need to see.

Chad, y'all need to see me come out of church.

You know what?

That's what I'm doing.

Nah, nah, nah.

Hey, one thing about it.

We ain't going that route.

We ain't going that route.

We're not going that route acting like, you know, we reverend, we reverend Al Sharpton and all that shit.

Yeah, that's what I got to be.

That's what they got to do.

Nah, nah, nah.

We got to turn up.

We got to stay.

We got to stay true to ourselves.

Nah, nah, nah.

I can't see that no more, Ocho.

I got to change.

Stay with me.

Stay with me real quick.

I'm changing my life, chat.

I'm changing.

I'm new.

Stay with me real quick.

It's okay to be new, but don't forget where you came from.

We come from times like that.

And at some times, you got to revisit where you come from.

I got to go back to church, Ocho.

I lost my way.

I lost my way.

I got to go back to church.

Chad, I know y'all understand.

I know y'all listen to y'all want to, you know, do something, won't do something.

But that unc,

I had to put him up.

I had to put him on the shelf.

Hey, listen.

Hey, that unknown you tried to put on the shelf is what made us who we are.

I know, Ocho, but we can't lose that dynamic.

If we lose that dynamic, then that doesn't make us who we are.

We can't lose that aspect of what makes us us

so you can't go to kirk franklin route that ain't nobody wants to hear that hey as a matter of fact ocho hey don't be surprised when y'all see me in the airport i'm carrying my bible i'm just saying

i'm just saying that's that's where i'm at oh cho i'm just saying i that's where i'm at

i'm carrying my bible ocho

I'm changed.

Listen,

I'm all for change.

I'm glad.

I told Jordan to come pick me up.

Jordan be going to church.

I told Jordan, swing by and scoop your cup.

Hey,

I'm telling you, that ain't it, huh?

That ain't it.

Listen, I'm with you when you're right, but there's certain things you have to still remain yourself.

You can backslide.

You can backslide.

I can't.

God forgave you already.

God forgave you already.

Whatever's for you is for you.

You didn't got to do all that extra stuff.

I just need to carry the Bible.

Just for a little while, Locho.

But I'll tell you what, you get the Bible, you got the Old Testament, New Testament.

I got the Bible, King James Version.

Okay, they got the Old and the New Testament.

I'll tell you what, bring your

Bibles have both testaments.

Got you.

Listen, I ain't never seen a Bible with just one Testament.

I got you.

Bring your King James Version.

Bring your King James Version Bible, October 13th, to the concert reinbee, young boy.

I tell you, I tell you that.

Listen, I'm going to give you a scripture.

One that I go, one that I go off of.

Philippians,

Philippians 2, verse 27.

For thou hast not tried to live perfect.

Thou shalt backslideth at some point in life.

But you must stay authentic to thyself, because no man is perfect.

That's why I'll see you October 13th.

You see, I got my thing.

I'm coming, most gracious and holy, Heavenly Father.

I come to thee in the most humble way I know how.

Bow head, humble humble heart, on bent knee.

Realizing that you're God of God, Lord of Lords, Kings of Kings.

Oh, yo, I'm done, don't you, your boy out.

Your boy, out.

I already got that Stacey Adams, Jim Fox.

I'm down on one knee.

Hey, hey.

I already told him, I said, Lord, when my time is up here.

Hey, boy, hey, boy, you hell.

And my face becomes a looking glass.

Just give me a place somewhere in your kingdom.

Now, where I'm at, Ocho, I'm done.

Your boy, I hop.

Chat, I'm out.

I ain't fooling with Ocho.