BEST OF NFL Week 6 Part 1: Chiefs TAKE DOWN Lions, Giants UPSET Eagles, Baker Mayfield MVP?

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Ocho, the Chiefs beat the Lions 30-17.

After the game, cameras caught Brian Branch refusing to shake

Patrick Mahomes' hand and then shoved Juju shoots Juju in the face.

Yeah.

To start a brawl, Patrick Mahomes threw for 257 yards.

Three touchdowns ran for another score.

Hollywood Brown had his best game as a Chief.

Two touchdowns.

Look more like Mahomes of old.

The Chiefs' offense is starting to get back into gear and starting to look like the Chiefs' offense that we're used to seeing.

When Patrick Mahomes basically started in, what, 2018, 2019, and ran that thing all the way until like 23.

This is the offense that we expected to see.

22 of 30, 257, three touchdowns.

They ran the ball 29 times for 112 yards.

Really good.

No turnovers.

It's a clean game from my homeboy.

Oh, Joe, looking at, we're getting to Detroit.

Talk about them in a minute.

What did you like about what you saw from Kansas City?

I mean, the fact that we're seeing the early Chiefs that we all used to love.

We're seeing the Chiefs that scored damn near 28, 30 points a game.

You had receivers, it was by committee.

You never knew who Knight it was going to be.

So obviously, now when you play the Chiefs and you're going in and you're studying, you're going from game to game, you don't know who Knight is going to be.

Tonight, it was Hollywood Brown.

Last week,

it might have been Juju.

It might have been Taekwondo Thornton.

you know so the fact that they're also being able to establish the run to balance the offense out

to keep everything honest especially defense because you don't know what's coming that's the great thing for the chiefs and the fact that patrick mahomes was playing so well he played a clean game as well playing a clean game and then being able to play defense on the back end

consistently against a great offense a great creative offense that again i'm sure that dan campbell is responsible for it is a really good game obviously the chiefs defense and offense has been up and down which is something it's been some slippage something that we talked about early in the season, and where we thought they really weren't going to be the same, especially coming out the gate 0-2.

And look,

we in week six, uh-huh, we in week six.

Yeah, week six.

How the hell everything looked completely different to the conversations we had just in the previous week.

In the first previous week.

So, I mean, what they've been able to do in such a short amount of time and changing everything around to everybody dropping balls or that they're not playing defense like they used to.

Or

we were talking about Chris Jones not hustling, not having effort on certain plays to looking like they did tonight

is an unbelievable thing.

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, like you said,

each week is a different receiver.

Tonight, they really didn't use a whole lot of Twyquan Thornton.

I didn't really see him on the field a whole lot, Ocho.

Tonight, it was all about...

Juju.

Travis Kelsey had his best game receiving of the year.

Hollywood Brown, we mentioned Hollywood.

Xavier Worthy doing Xavier Worthy, but he didn't get a whole lot of opportunities.

I think if you go back and look, look at what they've done the past two weeks.

Yes.

Is that they've started off throwing the football in order to run the football.

And they stayed in front of the sticks.

This offense is predicated.

As long as we can

stay in third and short, third and manageable, Ocho, now we can run it or we can throw it.

If you go back and look, let's see what they were on

third down.

As long as they were manageable, they were good.

Well, Cam City was only 4 or 10.

But they knew, even Dan Campbell knew.

Normally at home, when they're clicking, you got to get to 30.

You can't beat this team.

You can't beat this team in Arrowhead if they're playing good football and you don't get to at least 30.

Yeah.

Or you need to take the ball away.

You need to get a scooping score, you know, strip side.

You need to get a tip, a caramel, something.

But if they play a clean game and they're on top of their game, you're going to have to meet fire with fire.

And you saw early on both teams going for it on fourth down because they knew kick and field goals weren't going to win them the game.

Absolutely not.

Look last, it started Monday.

They threw the ball early.

Short stuff, get the ball out of Mahomes' hand.

Let's try to slow this rush down.

And now we can get back to running.

And I thought they did a good job.

I thought Andy did an unbelievable job of play calling tonight, getting the ball out of Mahomes quick.

And quick.

And if you notice something, Ocho, and we've seen this, the trans,

the transformation over the last three years my homeboy ain't sitting back there pitch patting the ball he'll take off running now oh yeah oh yeah absolutely absolutely the only thing I would say my homeboy sometimes you gotta know when the journey over okay now you keep dropping that shoulder people now I'll tell you that people hey people go drop hey they're gonna they're gonna drop anchor on you now

that's what I'm saying and you know quarterbacks don't do a whole lot of a lot of their shoulder work is banned they not lifted so they don't got that that that meet up there like like most guys have Just be careful.

But I like the way they played tonight.

They did a great job.

I really think the turning point of this ball game, and it wasn't, you know, is that Amon Ross St.

Brown had some of the best hands in football.

But on that fourth down,

I think that was the turning point because

they had great rhythm.

They had great momentum.

And you know,

because Ocho,

they was going to get us

at worst case, the field goal.

Now you get nothing.

Now you get nothing out of that.

And Kansas City get the ball right out of the gate.

But Detroit.

Detroit didn't play bad.

I mean, when you play in Kansas City and they play into the level of that they're playing tonight, they're going to be hard to beat now.

It don't matter if they're an arrowhead or they don't matter if they're coming to your building.

That is still Patrick Mahomes.

Right.

And obviously,

what we saw tonight from the Chiefs is what we've seen consistently from the Lions.

This

Lions consistently, week in and week,

week in and week out.

And it just happens to be one of those weeks where you're playing a team.

Now, when you're playing the other 31 teams, it's not that many teams that's going to come out there and put 30 on you.

No.

They ain't too many.

You got the Chiefs.

You got maybe the Packers.

You got maybe the Bucks that have the

offense to be able to

kind of points you putting up.

Where you have to meet fire with fire, where you have to take certain chances in certain situations because you know field goals is not going to get it done because this team can score at will throughout the majority of the game.

So, I mean, when you have games like this, you want to be as perfect as possible.

And the team that makes the fewest mistakes,

whether it be drops, whether it be interception, whether it be turnovers, whatever it may be, the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally comes out on top.

And that's what we saw tonight.

I like that.

I mean, there weren't a whole lot of penalties.

The Chiefs had no penalties.

The Lions only had four for 38 yards.

So this was a fairly clean game.

The refs let them play, which we like to see Ocho.

We like when refs let them play.

but we got to stop this notion every time the chiefs win it's the refs

you don't win that many games ain't no way you can get you can get travis kelsey mom you can get his dad you can get taylor swift you can get a lot of people ain't no way you winning just because of the officials and i get it it happens all the time they used to say the same thing with the patriots

and that's what happens when you win a lot People have to have a reason.

Well, why they win it instead of like, you know, they got good players.

They got a good system.

They got a good steam.

They got great culture.

We have to have a reason why, instead of just looking at the product and looking at the players, see, what has happened over the last years is that people like, well, they're catching up to Patrick Mahomes.

Well, you're measuring Patrick against his work.

You're measuring everybody else at their best, but you're measuring him at his worst.

So you telling me if Patrick Mahomes plays his best and another and every other quarterback plays their best, you take that quarterback over my homeboy.

Absolutely not.

If every quarterback, all 32 quarterbacks and everybody's healthy, if they played their absolute best and Patrick Mahomes plays his absolute best, you're not taking another quarterback that's currently playing in the NFL over Patrick Mahomes.

That's how good he's been.

I mean, think about it.

He's been in the starter for eight years and he's never, he doesn't know what it's like not to be in an AFC championship game.

And five of those years, he's been in the Super Bowl.

So when you look at it like that, and I get it, some, Ocho, we get tired.

Man, let's, how many times, Ocho, have you heard let somebody else win

how many times you heard that oh I'm tired of it with let somebody else win it don't work like that when I put that kind of time in you gonna have to beat me because I'm just not gonna stop winning even when you were a kid oh cho I ain't finna let you win no you gotta beat me I'm not gonna let you win I look I don't think there's anything wrong with the Lions I really don't I think their offense is really good.

They

missed a few opportunities, had a couple drops, but I thought they did really well.

They didn't get, I think they only gave up one sack tonight.

They were not as clean as they normally are.

Over two on fourth down, that's not the Lions.

The Lions are normally three or four on fourth downs.

You know, because they're going to go for it.

They're going to put pressure on you.

You know, when you play the Lions, you got to score points.

Yeah.

Because every position that they have is really four downs.

And you don't know.

Now, you like to say like, damn, okay, four down, but they might fake punch it,

fake punt it.

And you see the play they call, but see what they didn't realize is that the quarterback starts up on the center, he has to go get reset, yeah.

So he has to come to a complete stop.

You know what?

I was confused on that call as well because most of the time I'm thinking, well, wait a minute.

I see the dolphins, the other team do the same thing all the time.

Tyreek could come in motion and he never comes to a complete stop.

The ball just snaps, but he didn't start on the center exactly.

See, I

know that.

I didn't, I didn't know that little pickle right there.

So that's a, it's a lot, it's a lot of little nuances.

it's just like if two people are uh moving at the same time

once you're gonna have to both guys are gonna have to come to a complete stop or you're gonna have two guys in motion and that's what they got illegal you got illegal motion um but i think look this was a great game tonight obviously i would like to see it a little closer i was hoping detroit could score maybe get an on-side kick make it really really interesting but give kansas city when they needed to bowl their backs they bowed their backs and uh that's what you want from a great team um when it's all said and done, Kansas City's gonna be there in the end, Ocho.

Yeah,

they get Rashid Rice back this week, Ocho.

Yeah, because he show is coming, he sure is coming back.

And the funny thing about it is not only is he coming back, but as well as they played so far without him,

each week they've gotten better and better.

And like I said, it's by committee.

You don't know which receiver is going to have his day.

I don't like the fact that

Tyquan Thornton has such an intricate part of the offense.

And he was nothing today.

All of a sudden, tonight, you know,

they, you know, the package of whatever plays they might have had for him, it just wasn't the same.

I hate when they play that.

I hate that too because he's played so well and he's gaining confidence.

And the last thing I want to do is to do something to suppress his confidence because he's looking around like, what did I do this week?

I mean, why was I not?

Because he scored a touchdown damn near every week he's played, OJo.

And he's played extremely well, big catch after big catch, big play after big play.

So it's very, very unfortunate.

Hopefully, uh,

excuse me, they get into a situation where they get him, uh, where he can come back around and make plays for him again.

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Oh, Joe, the Bucks beat the 49ers 30-19.

Baker threw two touchdown passes and had a spectacular scramble.

Fans serenaded him with MVP chance, and many were still hailing Baker as he left the stadium.

The injury-riddled 49ers lost four-time all-pro linebacker Fred Warner to a dislocated right ankle.

Kyle Shanahan said the ankle was broken and dislocated, and he'll need season-ending surgery.

Baker, 17 of 23, 256, two touchdowns.

Buka left the ball game.

Absolutely.

So he's playing without his four top receivers.

Bucky Irving, his top running back, and he's still doing that.

Right now, he's the MVP front runner.

I know it's only six weeks into the season.

Yeah, but

it's his to lose, huh?

It's his lose.

Absolutely.

MVP is his to lose the way Baker Mayfield is playing right now.

He's playing the best.

the best football at the quarterback position with no Mike Evans, no Chris Godwin.

Obviously, Bucky Irving goes down.

Ibuku goes out today.

Ibuku goes out today with a hamstring injury, and he still doesn't miss a beat in the past.

He played a couple of games without

Tristan Worth.

Yes, yes, the awesome, awesome, one of the better left tackles in today's game as well.

Hey, Bacon Mayfield, again, situations matter.

Oh, my goodness.

He's playing good.

It's better, Ocho,

to let guys be themselves.

I think that's why a lot of guys have success in Baltimore because they don't try to change it.

Whoever you are, all we want you to do is play hard.

If you like to talk, talk.

If you want to be quiet, hey, ain't nobody going to talk to you.

Whatever you like to do, whoever you are, we want you to be more of that.

And see, Baker, this is who Baker is.

Tampa says, you leave.

If you want to joke and

you want to dance, you want to do, hey,

take off.

Did you see him after he had that scramble run where he escaped the pocket?

Yeah.

Went to the sideline, came back.

When he got up, all I could think about was when he put that goddamn flag in the middle.

He planted the flag

and the shoe.

Yeah, man.

Okay, that's the Baker Mayfield.

I hope to love.

You know, obviously, the quarterback position, they have to carry themselves a certain way.

They have to be almost political robots in a sense.

He's one of the few that does not abide by that rule.

Right.

He's a very emotional guy, but he can flat out throw the football.

And it doesn't matter who's in there.

He's gonna, hey, I'm gonna get you the football.

Uh, he like said, Look, there are a couple of guys.

Uh, Sam Darnold is in that discussion for MVP.

Sam Darnold is playing extremely well.

Obviously, Mahomes is going to be somewhere loafing, lagging around because I think Mahomes probably have how many touchdowns to interceptions does Mahomes have, Ash, but he's playing extremely well.

But Shaking Bake,

shaking bake,

shaking bake doing his thing, man.

And

see,

you know,

somebody that believes in you,

somebody that wants you.

At the end of the day, we all want to be wanted.

Yeah.

If you're in a relationship,

you want to know that your partner wants to be with you.

I ain't saying you got to tell me every day.

Yeah.

But you know what?

They got to know.

I appreciate you.

You know, I'm glad you said that, huh?

Now, I know we're talking football right now.

And that resonated with me right now because sometimes we unsure because sometimes we have to ask, you know?

But yeah, excuse me, Miss.

Hi, do you want me?

You sure?

Okay, cool.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think everything is okay.

Yeah, she wants me.

Yeah.

Appreciate that.

I'm glad you just said that, man, because sometimes fellas at home, like, if just you need to ask and make sure, you know, how the Bucks want Baker Mayfield, does your woman at home and your girlfriend or whoever you're seeing, do they allow you to be yourself so you can be your best version of you?

You know, because when you're your best version of you, you get what you get with Baker Mayfield.

So, if you feel like you're in prison and you're not free, you know, to be able to blossom and bloom like yourself, you need to ask that question.

Yeah,

okay.

You just want to,

sometimes you just want to be appreciated.

Sometimes I just tell me, say, you know what?

I appreciate you.

Yeah, you, yeah, yeah.

You tell me you appreciate me.

I just, I appreciate you.

You appreciate me?

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, she appreciates you.

That's

I look, I ain't big.

I, I ain't, I, I'm big on affirmation.

That's my thing.

Yeah.

And

that's how I operate.

And Baker, he just wanted to be appreciated.

Hey,

let me look.

I'm not going to put you in harm's way.

Yeah, look, I'm not.

But,

but,

I'm going to.

And, you know, I think, look, those progressive commercials, I think the thing is with that, you know, I think progressive is based in Cleveland.

He's the quarterback of the Browns.

Now he's basically the only really commercials I see.

Now, I don't know what they're doing local, but the only really commercials that I see nationally is the Heisman house.

You see, and he does a great job.

Those guys, I mean, that's a family, that's a brotherhood.

There's only X amount of those guys, and they do a great job.

But I think he's really focused.

You know, he doesn't forget anything.

Yeah.

And

Cleve, you got rid of me.

Can you imagine letting us, man, like like he went to MVP

like y'all had an MVP y'all had this yeah but y'all didn't believe in me y'all said y'all want a grown-up I guess I grew up huh

hey

now the the Carolina situation Temper I know he got mad at Steve Wilkes but an interim coach if not doesn't have any say that's Tepra yeah absolutely he goes to the Rams we know he wasn't gonna be the Rams because Matthew Stafford wasn't the Super Bowl so we know he wasn't gonna stay there but he goes to Tampa and he gets into a situation where you got Chris Godwin, you got Mike Evans, you got Kate Otten.

Jason Light has done a great job of drafting.

You get Bucky Irving, you get White, you get a Mecha Buka.

So he's done an unbelievable job.

But give Baker credit.

He didn't complain.

He didn't hang his head.

Oh, Paul Baker.

Oh, man, I can't believe Cleveland did that to me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He didn't do any of that.

He didn't sulk.

He didn't cry.

He just

put his boots on and he went to work.

and uh i'm i'm happy i'm happy for him i've been i've been one of like when he was in cleveland when he didn't play well i said that but i have no problem whatsoever giving a man giving a man credit when credit is due

his credit is due definitely due he playing his ass off every and you know what

every dollar he's earning every cent

oh he oh baker finally get baker finally get a look again a three-year deal oh yo yeah yeah he did he and he in year two of a three-year deal so they oh they're gonna come see him oh baker finna get one of them more 50 million oh yeah for sure well he making 49 he didn't do it making 33 they gave him three years by the 100 million okay okay okay okay okay oh they need more than that because y'all see them other guys i need that come see me y'all got you come see me i need that

uh we asked mahomes has uh 11 touchdowns to two interceptions for our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a

Oh, you know what time it is out here, huh?

What time is it?

It's

61.

A.M.

Yeah, it's 6-1.

But

what you call it?

She just went to the airport.

So my flight is 10 o'clock.

So I land in Miami at 5, and then I'm taking the kids at an NBA Youngboy concert.

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hey that ain't gonna work

yeah

he ain't got no parole coming up he ain't up for parole

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i think Dan Maguire.

I think he was six, eight and a half.

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Listen,

Flacco was just fine today.

I mean, we lost the game, but unless you watched, I watched the whole game.

I'm like, yeah,

we can work with this.

There's only so much they can put on this plate coming into this game.

He was only sacked one time.

You expect a game like this

with the front line that the Packers have,

you would think it would be turmoil.

It'd be chaos, but it wasn't.

You know, there was some good, some good flashes offensively.

We're going to be all right.

And you'll be able to see him Thursday night when it's the actual only game that's on.

It still will kick that L.

Jason Zeldorf, Justin Fields, Aaron Glenn said, football backer, 100 years.

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Well, Jake Browning is the worst.

But two or the three gotten benched.

If Justin Fields don't start playing better, he about to make it three for three, Ocho.

Well, you think, well, who's the back?

Oh, Tyrod.

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Yeah.

I told you.

What whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Listen, one thing about it.

The one thing about it.

Please don't do that.

Please don't do that.

Don't do what?

Don't do that because it didn't look as good as you did.

It looked like a woman with no makeup.

That's what the game was.

It wasn't pretty.

it wasn't it looked like a woman with no makeup it's not it was an ugly contest it's nothing and y'all still lost you know what i'm saying it was an ugly contest and you lost okay okay and i told you what was going to happen i told you i told you what's going to happen i said oh joe they're going to be they're going to be on justin fields like lions on a wildebeest i said you watch what i take

Yeah, did you see that?

You was right.

You were right.

Did you see his stat line?

I saw his stat line.

I'm finna go over his stat line.

He was nine of 17 for 45 passing yards.

When you take away the sack yards, he was minus 10 yards passing.

That's the fewest pass yards in Jets history.

That's the fewest allowed by a team since 1998.

So it's been 27 years since somebody has had a worse passing line than what Justin Fields had today.

They sacked him nine times for minus 55 yards.

They had 82 yards.

Chad, in an NFL game, a team had 82 yards of total offense.

In a 60-minute NFL game,

they were two of 15 on third down.

57 yards of total offense.

Jesus.

No, let me take that back.

They had 82 yards of total offense.

Nine sacks, 15 hits, seven tackles for losses, four passes defended, minus 10 net passing yards.

And I tweeted, Ocho, this is a new low even for the Jets.

82 total yards, 82 effing yards in an NFL game, two of 15 on third downs, and allowed nine sacks.

This is the worst offensive performance I've seen in a while.

Not sure if it can be fixed.

This was awful.

And it was, Ocho, Ocho.

I don't think I'm breaking news.

Yeah.

I'm going to be honest with you, Ocho.

I don't know how well Justin Fields processes information.

He freezes.

He freezes.

There are a couple of times, Ocho, he's got to take the flat right now.

And he doesn't.

Oh, he's waiting for some other development.

Yes, I don't know what it is.

Ocho, he's got to get out.

This isn't college.

In the NFL, you must throw people open.

Guys are not, yes, sometimes they'll blow a coverage

and the guy's wide open.

You can throw it to him.

But nine, eight and a half times out of 10, you've got to throw guys open in this league.

Guys are just, the guys are too good yeah and i just don't know and i'm watching the mocho and he freezes a lot of time it's like i'm like bro and and i don't know i don't know

we we and we blame the chicago and we we said it was an iber flues and we pittsburgh well he didn't get a chance Now he has a chance and I don't know what it is, but I just know this.

He's not processing the information as fast as he needs to.

And to be great at that position you must process information extremely fast because

oh joe it's happening it's one two three hey you stay one

two it's gone you got got to get out of there most definitely especially with with them not really blocking well for him being sacked nine times a day see from your point of view so you're able to have better context on why it looked the way it did you know sitting in the suite and watching you know live in person is a little different you just see everything happening fast in person don't know why it's happening because there's no replay there's nothing there's nothing you can that's why i don't like watching games in the state of because you look for the replay because i want to see

yeah so i'm i really couldn't understand i didn't know what is i didn't i didn't know it was as bad as it was once i saw the stat lines at the end of the game I saw him obviously running for his life.

I saw there wasn't much they were able to do offensively.

You know, I talked to AG.

I talked to AG before the game.

I was like, listen, congratulations on everything you're doing.

You know, let's hope you guys turn this thing around and getting the boys a playing.

And, hey,

I guess this just wasn't the week.

Not playing against that goddamn Broncos defense.

And

you said what they was going to do.

And they went out there and did everything you said it was going to do.

It's almost like the Jets don't even look like an NFL team, damn near.

They don't.

At times, they really don't.

I'm like, did y'all practice?

Ain't no way you practice.

You either one of two things.

You're not practicing or you're practicing to be just this bad.

Because normally people practice to be good.

You got to practice doing what they're doing.

This is bad.

And I hate it for AG because I know AG personally.

I know him well.

He's a really good dude, but he could not have gotten off to the worst start.

Yeah.

Because these guys, for whatever reason, whatever they're coaching is not resonating.

It's not getting through to them.

Garrett Wilson was asked on the side as

about

his sideline exchange with Aaron Glenn at the end of the first half.

Oh, Joe, let's take it.

Yes, let's take a listen to what he had to say.

Pick up war at the end of the first half when you were walking off the field.

Was that the way the drive went?

Well, really, like, you know, that stuff like that is just, I don't know.

I just didn't know exactly what the plan was.

And

once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed.

I'll just say that.

So,

yeah.

How did you run a play?

Is that what you mean?

Yeah, I didn't know exactly like what the plan was.

I just

thought we were, once we, you know, converted the fork down, I just thought we were going for the, you know, trying to make the play.

And then obviously we get to another fork down, and it's a tough spot to be in.

So,

you know, in hindsight, I get why they did that.

But in the moment, I was just like, man,

I don't know.

Yeah.

he's speaking, he's speaking Pacifics, huh?

He's speaking Pacifics, you know.

Yes, I don't know.

I didn't know what they were doing.

I was like, y'all just gonna let the time run out.

Ain't nobody, you're not gonna run a play, you're not gonna even attempt anything.

Yeah, I was thinking about clock management as well.

And I'm like,

why the heck?

Why are they letting the clock go all the way down?

Let's try to do something.

Let's do something.

But obviously, you know, he's frustrated.

He's frustrated.

But he should be.

The guy had been, he was offensive rookie of the year with some very marginal quarterbacks.

Yeah, exactly.

and

allegedly supposedly they had supposed to have gotten better quarterbacks yeah but his stats aren't indicative of that so he's frustrated by that

second of all when you do what they did it tells me you don't trust your quarterback

yeah oh that's the only reason you would do something like that because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that same amount of time try to run plays and if we got time we're gonna call we're going to use our timeouts, or we're going to

help the guys,

hope the guys can get out of bounds.

But when you just let that amount of time just run off the clock,

ain't no way in hell you cannot convince me that they trust the quarterback.

You don't.

You don't, because that's the only reason you do a time like that.

We can't put our team, we can't put our quarterback because his decision-making is not where it needs to be to be able to put him in situations that might not be advantageous for him because he might make the wrong decision with the ball.

We can't trust him.

To make matters worse, Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments and he'll have an MII upon returning to New Jersey.

Ocho, look,

and when he did, and he was late with the ball, he was all over the place.

He had him on the out and he throws it behind him.

He had another guy.

He would have had the first down, and he ends up hurting his back.

And so on fourth down, they don't even have Garrett Wilson in the ball game.

I'm like,

whatever could go wrong went wrong that they feel.

Whatever went wrong with Ocho.

Even the best defense attorney Wilts struck you at some point in time.

Yeah.

We don't have a winnable case.

At some point in time.

And it's coming sooner rather than later.

Yeah.

I don't know how much further

I can stick my neck out for Justin Fields.

I don't know, Ocho.

I don't know.

In order to have a chance, Uncle, in this league, it's 32 teams.

In order to have a chance, I don't care who's coaching.

I don't care what you have on the offensive line.

I don't care what you have at that receiver.

I don't care what you have on defense.

In order to have a chance, in today's era of football, you got to have a quarterback.

He doesn't have to be the fastest.

He doesn't have to have the best arm.

He just has to be consistent in his decision making.

He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills and being able to play the position, being able to process information in front of him, and being able to do exactly what you ask of him to make sure that offense goes, whatever that may be.

Whatever it may be.

I thought this would be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs that he showed with the Steelers last year.

Yes.

Leading them to a winning record until Russell Wilson was given a job by Mike Tomlin.

I'm like, you know what?

If Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's going to be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance and what he could do when he's quarterback number one.

Now you're quarterback number one.

You ain't got nobody to worry about.

You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder so you can actually play free.

But based on the play calling, some of the things that

that they were doing, it's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that they have because they're not, the play calling isn't free.

we have to protect our quarterback from himself so you know what we're going to have we're going to let the clock run out because we don't we don't even want to put him in a situation where he has to make certain decisions because it can go wrong

you're right it it's it's bad it's bad and i know and and a g's like wants to show support but i don't know how much longer

that because at the end of the day ocho you got 50 other guys in that locker room now and i understand the loyalty that you want to have for your quarterback and you want to show support.

But you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed to the other guys because they'll look like, and they know, Ocho, you've been in locker rooms for a long time.

I've been in locker rooms.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And maybe Tyrod, maybe it's time to, hey, maybe you give it a couple of more games.

You're like, well, hey, Justin, I'm sorry.

We're going to have to let Tyrod have a go of this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

See if he can get some things going.

Because

this is this is terrible now look the broncos defense is really really good yeah that run seven oh they get every quarterback yeah you think about it they're rotational the a bottom uh bonito and cooper they'll go a series and then the next they got a whole different set of lineup

yeah and they a they got that they got they got a nascar package that they just keep rotating them and they keep coming they collapse you from the outside and then you got big allen collapse in the middle so

or and they're gonna run you into somebody if you run wide, Coop got you.

If you run to the other side, Bonito got you.

You try to step up in the pocket, you got Allen collapse in the pocket.

So they're really good.

Don't get me wrong now, that's not a slouch defense.

And Passertain is legit.

Yeah, he is legit.

He is hands down the best corner in football.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And he is smooth, man.

He is so smooth the way he can transition.

And he's long.

Hey, his arm like this long.

And so he doesn't have to be that close to do this or to do this.

Yeah, he's really good.

He's so fluid.

I mean, for someone to be as tall as he is and to be as fluid through the hips as he is, because, bro, he backpelling get out of there in a hurry.

And he could whip his hips and go.

But Ocho.

Being raised on a farm,

I was in 4-H,

went to county fairs.

Went to a goat show, a cow show, and I seen it, and I've been to the circus.

I ain't never seen no ish like what I saw with the jets jets today.

You done been around a lot of football too.

You ain't seen nothing.

I have.

But

this, today, I'm talking about like, look, and I've been on, I'm like, damn.

I'm trying to think.

I think maybe one other time that I've actually been around and I saw it, hell, I was a part of it.

I think you got to go back to 92.

And the Eagles, the Eagles beat us.

I think they beat us 30 to nothing.

I don't know if we had 50 50 yards of total offense.

The Ravens?

Yeah.

No, the Eagles.

No, I was with the Broncos.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah.

But that was, so that was, what, 33 years ago?

Yeah.

And you got to think about it, Ocho.

They said the last time somebody had that few yards in a passing game, that was 98.

That was 27 years ago.

So you're talking about almost three decades.

This doesn't happen often.

So people, I don't want you to think that, oh man, that could happen.

No,

this does not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered for the quarterback and the receivers because you can't punish the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers.

So with that being said, to get a performance like what they got today, oh cho, 82 yards of total offense.

That's a testament to how good that defense actually is.

Even with them being handicapped because of the rules, that's just how good they are.

And how bad the opposing team was.

It's a combination.

That too.

Hey, listen, two things can be true.

It absolutely can be true.

But I don't know where the Jets go.

I do know.

I do know.

They take their ass home.

And

that's a long ass flight to take an ass whip.

And you sold it.

Do you even watch film?

Hell no, I ain't showing that.

Yeah, I was going to say.

I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffer.

Whatever the hell that is.

I'm burying that tape.

Ain't nobody going to see that.

As a matter of fact, I'm gonna sue NFL films if they show it.

You better be glad that they got like, remember they used to have inside the NFL Ocho and they have the Thursday night to have the game.

Yeah, and they show highlights from the game.

Nah, don't y'all show that.

Don't show nothing.

Don't y'all show a deep thing.

But this was bad.

This was bad.

And

you can lose a locker room if you're not careful.

But also, there's one thing about losing the locker room and a coach having to make a very tough decision you know for a quarterback for a quarterback that you you consider you're number one a quarterback that that that's been paid

is the backup is the backup the answer because once you once you make a move in the middle of a season like this we're only in week six once you make a move like this you're making a move i think they give them a couple more weeks ocho but if they don't turn this thing around I can see a situation.

Ocho, if we owe

an eight, oh and nine, oh and ten.

So what?

We try to, I mean, what are we trying to do?

Because I already know a team and another team that's in the Midwest that's trying to get the number one pick.

That's Cleveland.

And we'll talk about them in a minute.

Or the Jets trying to get the number one pick?

Okay.

Because if you're trying to get the number one pick, you just stay the course.

I see where you're going.

Because that quarterback that you bring in the Tyrod is going to try to win games.

I'm just telling you.

And I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't.

So you just tell me what to do.

Because here's the thing.

These other guys in the locker room, they don't care that you're trying to build for the future.

I ain't trying to get my head split right now while you building for the future.

Damn your future.

My future is right now because I might not even be here when we get good.

Yeah, which is true, which is true.

And

they're going to be some heads rolling now.

There's going to be some attitudes.

They're going to be some frustrations, especially from five.

You know, Garrett Wilson ain't going to go for that.

Not finna go for that.

You paid me like the receiver that I am.

Please use me as such.

Please use me as such.

Ocho, tonight, this game wasn't close.

Jackson Dart did it with his arm and his leg.

Scat pack was sensational, 19 carries, 98 yards, three touchdowns.

Jackson Dart, 13 carries, 58 yards, another touchdown.

They gained 172 yards on the ground.

Jackson Dart was 17 of 25, 195, one touchdown.

He was sacked.

but he didn't turn the ball over.

And when you can turn the ball, when you can take care of the football and you play, you have a great chance of winning.

Jalen Hurts was 24-33, 283, one touchdown.

Ocho, what do we say about that late ball if you late and inside?

It's going the other way every time.

And it almost did.

They ran the ball 20 times for 73 yards, but they ran the tush push four times in a row.

They got a touchdown out of it.

Dallas Garden has seven catches, 110 yards, a touchdown.

A.J.

Brown has six for 80.

Devontae Smith, who Jalen Hurts overthrew, would have had like a 90-yard touchdown, but he had four for 49.

Oh, Joe, the Giants just

the Giants did whatever they wanted to do.

Both sides of the ball, too, at that.

And both sides of the ball at that.

For one, I want to talk about Jackson Dart.

I want to talk about how good Jackson Dart looks as

a rookie.

Obviously, Russell Wilson started the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dart got his opportunity, he came in and closed the door right behind him.

Yep.

He's making the throws.

He's reading.

He's improvising.

He's escaping.

He's eluding.

He's using his legs.

He's using his arm.

His best weapon went down with knee injury.

But you wouldn't know that his best weapon offensively outside of Scatterbow was hurt.

Jackson Dart is a real deal, and he's very exciting.

The combination of him and Scatterbow together, it's like two little kids.

It's like two little kids out there on the playground just enjoying the game of football at the highest level.

And it's refreshing.

It's refreshing for the giants fans as you can see and you can hear um you know you watch you watch um you watch the game with the sound off but just just watching the reaction and the sound of the giants oh they're going i can see the fans when they're panning and the fans go they i'm sure they're saying uh uh uh boo like for scatterbo uh scat pack was doing his thing jackson dart i'm sure the hell and dart

Look, this was, look, and we'll get to this, Ocho, because the Eagles didn't play well and they got some issues and we tried to tell them about the issues that they have.

But you know what, Ocho?

But you can't tell Giants fan anything because

if I critique Jalen Hurts, you don't like black people.

You don't say this about white quarterbacks.

If I critique their team, I'm jealous.

I'm envious.

Okay, fine.

I should have your undivided attention because I couldn't get your attention at first because you was winning.

You see that?

When you're winning, you can't get nobody's attention.

Now I should have your undivided attention because you lost twice.

Yes.

The Giants,

they got the makings of a good team.

The The only thing that concerns me, Ocho, is pressure.

There were times back there that Jalen Hurst would just

sitting there patting the ball.

And two of the three and two of the four pass rushers was on the ground.

They've got to generate pressure because they don't have a lead on the back end.

And so you should be able, when you got Dee Lawrence, when you got a Thibodeau, when you got Abdul Carter, that should be more than enough to create pressure, to create havoc.

And not nearly, and I forgot Brian Burns.

Brian Burns, yeah.

That should be enough, more than enough to create havoc.

Not enough

havoc was created tonight.

You won the game, but in order for you to keep building on this,

you got 10 days off.

You get an opportunity to soak in this.

I'm sure the Giants fans are going crazy.

Somewhat crazy because the Yankees lost last night.

But if you're a Giant fan, you look at Jackson Darr, you're like, man, he won his first game.

He was playing really well against the Saints, and then he started turning the ball over.

If we could protect the ball, I think we might got something.

Scat Pack was doing what Scat Pack does.

He runs hard.

He's looking to run through, as Marshawn Lynch would say, run through a mofo face, and he runs with authority.

He's looking to deliver a blow.

When he blocks, he's blocking all out.

When he's running, he's running all out.

He missed a couple of cuts early, but hey, all of us forgiven, he was a rookie.

He'll get better as time progresses.

But I thought the Giants' offensive line, Ocho, when we talked about that thing with a sieve, that hey, people just coming to A.

You gonna block him?

But they did a great job.

I thought they did a better job tonight of protecting Jackson Dart.

He did a great job of avoiding the rush.

When he needed to run, he got rid of it, he got out of the pocket.

When he needed to throw the ball away, he threw it away.

I like what I saw from the New York football giants.

Wandell Robinson had himself a game.

A little John Humphrey, I thought he made some plays tonight, Ocho.

But

I mean, what can we say?

The Giants, I mean, I don't think anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game.

But it could go to show you, hey, you take care of the football.

And

it's a division game, Ocho.

It's a rival game.

You know, hey, you throw workers out the window when you're playing a rival now.

Yeah, definitely.

Most definitely.

But listen, you also understand if you're a bedman, if you're a bedman, you're definitely picking the Eagles.

Yes.

Well, I wonder what the lion was.

What was the bet?

You know what the lion was, Ocho?

No, it had to be had to be at least, I'm thinking, at least for four and a half listen you're going against a rookie quarterback defending super bowl champs everybody named i'm gonna probably pick the eagles to actually win this game but when you have a quarterback like jackson dart who has been as exciting as he is who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten the starting job i mean for those who actually know and understand the game of football and based on the small sample size of jackson dart that we've been able to see

You throw caution to win when you come to betting against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance.

So going forward, you know, I think things are going to change a little bit when it comes to watching, not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want to on them to win a certain game or a Pacific game at that.

It seems like the line was seven, seven and a half, depending on where you was betting, who you was betting,

what line you took.

I'm confused, OJo.

Talk to me.

Wait, wait, wait.

Before you say anything, let me get comfortable.

I'm confused as to what they're doing with AJ Brown.

I watched the man run two unders in a row.

I'm like, is that the only route y'all believe AJ Brown can run?

He run under.

He run a little.

They try to run him on like a little

six, seven yard out.

But I don't see no imagination in the routes.

I don't see no magic, no, no creativity in the calls.

Man, look, they run in smash concepts.

They run the sale and then they run the spot, what we call a spot route.

Or

they'll run the out and then they'll run the under.

Or Devontae would try to start in the slot and he'll

run the fade or he'll run the smash route.

I mean, he'll run and

Brown would run the.

I'm like, damn.

If I'm Jalen Hurst said, man, I'm tired of running these damn under routes.

Give me a dig.

Give me a comeback.

Give me a deep over.

Give me something hey run a bang yeah we ain't got no bangs yeah I will say they made they made a conscious effort to give him the ball they made a conscious effort to give him the ball in in the in the first half and there were some plays that broke him down where he was able to scramble out the pocket and get get the ball to AJ it wasn't many of them but he had a he had a better better stat line this this week you know this game second best most yards he's had you know he had that 100 yard game against the Rams where they were down by a lot of the half and then they came out made a a conscious effort.

Like, we got to throw the ball because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game.

And it's like, okay, AJ.

Um, so he had six for 80, Dallas Goddard had six, uh, nine for 110.

Uh, Smitty would have been over 100 had uh Jalen not overthrew him.

He put a little bit too much gas up on it.

Uh, uh, Devontae ran a really good route, had him.

I mean, he could have walked backwards and got into the end zone because it looked like his defender had fallen down, don't you?

Yeah.

When you look at the Eagles,

what's going on?

Clearly, clearly, that meeting didn't help.

I don't know what they discussed.

I don't care to know.

34-17, it's been a while since the Eagles lost the game by that.

And this game wasn't, I mean,

this thing got out of the head quick.

Yeah, it did.

It did.

And I would think some, obviously, I think it would start up front.

with some of the pieces to that offensive line being missing.

Small holes that you try to cover up.

you know

weak links that you try to cover up but you just can't there's a reason why saquan barkley isn't being as successful in the running game as he was last year because

he wasn't ocho you you knew they were ocho you thought they were gonna let that man come back and rush for another 2000 hey you you do understand the eagles do have the best offensive line in the league yes but when they can't win that winner

right what did i tell you if you're gonna beat me you're gonna beat me with jalen hurts throwing the football.

Oh, yeah.

Because I like my chances better beating you with him throwing the football than Saquon Barkley running for 125 a game.

Right.

It's really that simple.

And that's not a knock.

I'm not going to let, but I'm not going to let you have a two-way go of it.

Now Saquon's running it.

Now you play action and throw the ball over the top of my head.

Nah, nah, nah.

If he's going to throw the ball with pinpoint accuracy, and guess what I'm going to do, Ocho?

I'm not going to bring, I'm not going to drop eight in the box.

I'm not going to throw one-on-one.

I'm going to make you throw through zones.

I'm going to make you throw into coverage.

Now, you do that consistently.

Okay, I tilt my hat to you.

I can live with that.

But I am not going to let Saquon do what he did last year and then be at your mercy.

Now, you throw when you want to.

You run when you want to.

You got me begging, man, throw the ball.

Man, run the ball.

Nah, hell no.

You're going to beg for something different.

Look,

it's early in the season, but clearly clearly

something is amiss with the Eagles.

It's hard to pick right up where you left off, Ocho.

As someone that has been in that situation,

you have to really turn your mind off to like, man, we won the Super Bowl.

Yeah, you did that last year.

You think these teams are going to roll over just because you won the Super Bowl?

You're their Super Bowl this year.

Oh, yeah.

The teams that didn't win the Super Bowl, guess what?

When they see your ass on the schedule, now that gives us,

you know what Brian Dayball said?

That's the defending Super Bowl champs.

And we just hung 34 on them.

You see, when we play, we can beat anybody in this league.

That's what they're saying.

Because

that's the Eagles.

That's the defending Super Bowl champ.

So now teams base their,

they base how good they are.

on whether or not they beat them.

And now you see why?

Now this gives you a better reason

Jayla hurts

when they ask him about the Super Bowl and how it feels to be champs, why he throws it out the door.

That was last year.

Absolutely.

Because he understood how difficult it would be to not only repeat, but to have the same success going into this same way.

Now we're seeing the struggles that they are having, being that they're not at full strength,

especially at the offensive line.

Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than they were last year.

And things are different.

New offensive coordinator,

things have to evolve offensively.

You know, you can't be too predictable.

Last year, because the running game was so efficient, you could damn near do what you want to do.

Exactly.

And you can throw it when you want to.

You got to pick your poison on what you want to do.

Now things are a little different.

And now you're going to get to see the better part of the Eagles.

You have to dig down, Ocho.

We got to dig.

Yeah, they could do one of two things.

You can come together and fix it, or things are going to continue to splinter.

Yeah.

And we're not going to make no excuses.

Oh, the Eagles beat themselves.

It looked like to me the Giants had 34 and the Eagles had 17.

It didn't say Eagles one had 34 and the Eagles two had 17.

Right, right.

Ain't no ain't no beat yourself because, see, that's the excuses you make.

Last week, they had a man, they should have called pass interference.

That was a pass interference.

You see what happens, Ocho.

If you, if you lose by a little, I can go back and point to things.

Well, if we had done this, we had done that.

But see, when I beat hell at of you, what are you going to say?

So, what past interference that would have made up 17 points?

What holding call?

Man,

they were holding.

So, what holding call would have made up 17 points?

What did I miss?

What offsides, what penalty that they didn't call that would have made up for 17 points?

Oh,

I feel bad for my guy, Gilly.

He's gonna be all right.

Gilly gonna be all right.

You know why?

I I know he's going to only reason I'm saying he's going to be all right, only reason I'm saying the Eagles are going to be okay

because it's so early in the season.

It's so early in the season.

Now, if we, now, if we were in the back end of season, I know I give you one.

If it was after Thanksgiving,

things were looking the way they look now, I'd be worried.

I'd be worried.

But let me tell you.

When you show vulnerability early,

teams like they can be had.

That's the thing.

Now, because you're already going to get everybody's best shot, Ocho, because you're the reigning Super Bowl champs.

Absolutely.

You're going to get everybody's best.

But now they're like, hey, they're vulnerable.

They can be had.

The ferocity,

that defense is not nearly as vicious and suffocating as it was.

That's a rookie, Ocho.

I don't give a damn who back there.

That is a rookie quarterback in only his third start.

And he did that.

He did that.

And he didn't seem bothered by what you were doing on the back end.

He didn't seem flustered.

He didn't seem off-kilter.

He didn't seem like, man, what are they doing?

I'm seeing ghosts out there.

He didn't seem that way to me.

Now, maybe somebody else saw something that I didn't see, but he looked perfectly fine to me.

Hey, I take it.

I can see why AJ getting frustrated.

Because

I get tired of running underouts too.

Yeah.

I would.

I get tired of running short crosses.

They run, run, man, stop, man.

Give me something down the field.

It would be very interesting, Ocho, if we were to watch a cut up.

We see all 22 and see how many times he runs further than 10 yards down the field.

Right.

Because

I see a lot of people.

I see a lot of routes.

Short cross over the ball, under route, slant route, five-yard out.

Man, let that man run a deep over.

Let the man run a comeback.

Let the man run a dig.

Damn.

yeah and more than because everybody goes ocho now they know he's not going deep i'm squatting on everything ojo i ain't getting nothing no damn backpedal because he ain't running no go ball especially the especially the better corners especially the better corners

that know and understand down a distance we understand tendencies we understand split we understand schemes we understand the route concepts okay

oh he he's he on top of the numbers Oh, he ain't going nowhere.

You ain't running no damn gold rod from no top of no numbers.

Oh, absolutely not oh he inside the numbers okay well i know you try to run a shallow you try to run a shallow either run the shallow or he coming outside one or the other i could just sit

like it's i don't know i think maybe maybe the the casual fan doesn't understand

how

how difficult the game of football is if it's not complicated, but how easy it is for those who study the game, who watch film, and are used to seeing things over and over and over.

Yeah.

So now the onus is on the offensive coordinator to be a little bit more creative to throw off those that you're playing week three because now there's film on you.

There's a year's worth of film on you and you got to change things up.

Because if you don't change things up, you get what you see tonight.

You get players that are frustrated because the blueprint is out there.

The ingredients are out there.

And when the ingredients are out there, hey.

We know what this tastes like.

You got to change it up.

You do, Ocho.

And the thing is, just like a pass rusher, you can't give that offensive lineman that same pass rush move.

He'll eat that up.

After a while, he'll build up an immunity to it.

So you got to give him, hey, you got to, sometimes you got to turn speed to power.

Sometimes you just got to dip.

Sometimes you got to wax on, wax off.

Sometimes you got a bull.

Sometimes you got a hump.

You got to change it up.

The same thing with an offensive lineman.

Hey, sometimes they quick set you or jump set you.

Sometimes they stab left and then they come back.

Hey, sometimes they, sometimes they catch.

You've got to change it up.

These guys are good.

Very good.

And they break everything down.

They watch, watch him.

Watch his feet.

Watch when he does this,

what he does with his hands.

Now,

watch when he's in this stance.

Look how wide his base is.

Defense, offense, defensive lineman.

Look at his stance.

They pay attention.

They break everything down to the umpteenth.

Because the margin of error, these guys are really good.

And

the margin of victory is so small.

Very Very small.

It's not, I'm telling you, it's not a mountain.

It is small.

It's the minute.

It's the details.

The devil is in the details.

Man.

Hey, listen, it's one of three plays make the difference.

That's it.

That's it.

One in three.

That's it.

Two turnovers did not help.

Looked like the Eagles were going in, got a turnover.

And Jalen threw it was late and inside.

you inside.

If that DB can catch, he's going the other way with it.

And then it seemed like they were driving again, and A.J.

Dillon got the ball punched out.

That's true.

Turnovers right there where you look like you're about to

make something positive happen, and it ends up going the other way.

But

it's going to be interesting to see how the Eagles bounce back or how they respond in general.

Oh, Joe, you do realize they didn't score a point in the second half.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, that day.

In the second half.

The 17 was off in the first.

Hey, and on the two-ish push, that first one, the Garite guard jumped the count again.

Yeah.

See, he all, ocho, he almost has to jump the count because he has to keep the guy off the center.

Because if the center gets stand up, because remember, Jalen Hurst is coming right behind him.

So if he gets stood up, So the guard, one of those guards have to knock somebody off him.

Let him get some push.

Now we can get Jalen Hurst to get a little push so we get some leg drive if jalen if the center gets stood up where's jalen going if the play doesn't work i mean the play doesn't work

yeah

it's gonna um look i'm sure nick sarian's like you know he's like good guys know it's a tough one it was a short week but hey it was a short week for the giants

everybody's gonna have everybody's gonna have at least one short week the cowboys prop yeah the cowboys will probably have two

because they got the thanksgiving game and then they nearly

likely plays the following Thursday after that.

But give the, I think this tonight, we can talk about the Eagles till we're blue in the face, but I think tonight was more about what the Giants did, positive and good, as opposed to the Eagles.

The Eagles have their issues, but here's the thing.

If I got issues and you don't take advantage of them, what good is that?

Mistake, when you make a mistake, can I make you pay for it?

Right.

You leave the door open, I walk in your house.

You leave something out at the table, I eat off your table.

Every mistake the Jets, the Eagles made,

Giants made them pay for it.

The question is,

look, Sherian, Sirianic cut his teeth in calling plays.

And I know it's a bad, because here's the thing.

Anytime you do something that's abnormal, people think you're panicking.

If I take over the play caller no-cho, what am I saying?

The guy that had the play caller, he's not doing a good job.

Be it offensive or defensive if i've reassigned people hey you was in class ocho shannon get oh chad get your book move over here that means you were being a disruption you were doing something you have no business i got that all the time shannon can you move up here by me why you know why

So that's the way they look, that's people are going to look at that from the outside and say, well, okay.

I thought what nothing going on.

If nothing's going on, why are you making these changes?

Why are you making these moves?

But at the end of the day, I've got to do what's in the best interest of this team.

And if I have to take over the play calling, I don't want to.

I don't want to take over the play calling, but I will if I have to.

And the question is,

do you think Sirianni should or will take over the play calling?

Ooh, that's tough.

That's asking an awful lot of a head coach.

I mean, look.

Tyl Shanahan does it.

Andy Reed does it.

There aren't a whole, Sean McVay does it.

It's not a whole lot of guys.

Ben Johnson does it now.

But for the most part, you know, hey, I got lieutenants.

I let lieutenants do their job.

I oversee everything.

I hear everything.

If there's something, hey, nah, we're going to run it on this one.

Nah, hey, hey, you got that specialty play?

Do that.

I try to oversee everything.

So what do you think?

What do you think will happen or what do you think should happen?

I think more so a conversation.

I think more so a conversation is had between

Patula and Siriana.

siriani because siriani has enough enough as a head coach huh he has enough he has enough going on that he has to deal with he has enough on his plate as is you already have you already have coaches appointed to certain positions and they have their jobs now if you if you want a coach to do his job a little better or find ways to to make things work is here now talking uh from an offensive perspective you have that conversation with him and and what needs to change and what he would like to see as a head coach.

But taking over the play calls this early,

to me, it sends sends them in panic mode.

And I don't think that's something that they really need is not to panic, but find a way, figure out what solutions we can take,

what creative effort

can Petulo do and in creating a little bit of creativity offensively and moving some things around.

Just throwing a few wrinkles in there, not going too far away from the game plan and schematically and the things that do work and that you like to do, but just throwing some wrinkles in there that give you a little bit more success that aren't predictable when you're out there playing.

Oh, Joe, you know how

coaches always ask the quarterback, and the quarterback goes to the coach and says, These are the plays I like.

Yeah.

Go to AJ Brown and say, AJ, what you like?

What you want to run?

Give me a hint.

How can I help you?

What do you like?

Yeah.

Ask him.

I mean, Mike would ask me, hey, 84, what you like here?

Same.

Especially in that first 15.

Yeah.

You can't go wrong with basic cross.

You can't go wrong with why choice.

You cannot go wrong with those.

You give me one of those.

You give me one of those.

I'm good.

I'll make it.

I'll make it work.

I don't give a damn if he's playing outside leverage.

I don't care if he's playing head up.

I don't care if he's playing inside leverage.

He cannot stop me from going where I want to go.

He's going to ask me what I like.

Hey, you like the Zaro here?

Yeah, I like Zarro.

Yeah, I like Zaro.

I like Zarro.

I like it.

I like it.

You know, I'm really trying to get a touchdown.

So I kind of like it.

Ojo, I like it in the 10 going in.

I ain't really trying to get no first down because they only going to bite one time, Ocho.

It's like a fish.

You got the fish and you hook him and he get off.

He ain't biting again.

Not that one.

Now, somebody else might get his ass another day in time, but he's not going to bite.

So that's the way I look at it.

Like, if I beat him on this Zarro this time and I get a first down, he ain't biting again.

so i'm like i'm like no i'll kind of like i kind of like uh uh like in the 10 for the zarro route but anything else mike hey you do right choice you do basic hey you do a uh basic cross anything like that

i'm good i'm gucci hey run tiger far cross hey any anything

um just go to aj and say aj what you like tell me tell me tell me what If I said, AJ, give me your five favorite routes that you like to run.

Yeah.

And let me see how I can incorporate it in what we're doing.

Because all they do, Ojo, is that you got your plays and you watch the film and you see what the other teams did to their ass last week.

And then you put that in and call it your stuff.

Bingo.

That's it.

It's a copycat league.

That's all you do.

There's a copycat league and they do it every week.

Whatever they saw.

Whatever they saw that worked on film and you happen to be playing their team, they're going to do the exact same thing.

Formation might be a little different.

Absolutely.

What

be exactly the same?

You think AJ asked for a trade?

No.

Hell.

Oh, shoot.

You know what?

I'm not in AJ's shoes.

I'm not in his shoes.

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

And being

how he is, his mannerisms, his beliefs, and the way he moves and thinks is much, much more completely different.

than that of what they think he is.

Yeah.

I'm not sure he's the type to ask for a trade, but he's frustrated.

Devontae Smith is frustrated.

They both voiced their frustrations.

I think it was maybe last week or week before last

publicly.

So

I'm not sure.

I think

AJ, look at it.

Because I understand.

I really do.

I really do.

Because I don't want people to think I understand AJ's situation.

AJ say they don't pay me to win.

They pay me for stats.

The only problem that I have, stats get me paid, not wins.

Not wins.

I told AJ, remember I said that?

Yes.

I said that.

The only problem is that AJ, keep that with Sariani.

Keep that with Petula.

Keep that with what you call them.

I say, because when you voice it outside, people are going to look at you as being selfish and say you care about your stats than you do about winning, even though that's how you're going to get paid.

I get it.

Yeah.

But you're not going to be able to elicit sympathy from that fan base because we winning, oh,

just like, oh, you winning.

You like, man,

but y'all don't want seven games in a row.

How you go publicly and tell about, man, I need to get the ball.

Right.

Right.

People are going to look at you as being selfish.

Although I understand what it's based on.

I just wish, like I said, I wish, because like a family, football team is a family.

I guarantee you spend more time with the football team than you do your real family.

Especially during this time.

Yes.

From basically from July, when you go to training camp until your season ends, you spend more time with them.

You do.

You do.

And you do everything you can to keep everything in-house.

Yeah.

When it gets out, now everybody has their own interpretation to what's going on.

Exactly.

When you keep it in-house,

don't nobody know.

You know what the actual, what's actually being said, you know what, and how to fix it.

But then, once it gets out,

yeah, hey, and like I said, that meeting,

I'm trying to figure out who, how many people knew about that meeting, Ocho?

Somebody probably upstairs, I guarantee you that.

Somebody knows he's some reporter,

you know, a player talking to a reporter that they probably confide in and thought it wouldn't get out or they wouldn't tell anybody.

And all of a sudden, the rest of the world knows everything getting out now.

You can't, hey,

trust nothing, Trust absolutely nothing.

But now,

what I knew to be true all along, Kellen Moore is a damn good offensive coordinator.

Absolutely.

A damn good one.

He was good at Dallas.

He was really good at Dallas.

He was great.

He won a Super Bowl with the Eagles.

Normally, it's a little lull.

Normally, Detroit don't seem to be having that problem that Ben Johnson left.

They don't seem to have that problem that AG left on the defensive side of the football.

Detroit is playing extremely well.

Remember what I said, huh?

Remember what I said when Ben Johnson left?

Yes.

When Aaron Glenn left?

I said, even though the coaches left, the pieces of that puzzle are still there.

So you take coaches out and the pieces of the puzzle are still there.

You can still put it together.

Right.

You can still put it together because you still got the same pieces.

So it doesn't matter who called the play.

That's why sometimes when I hear coaches, when I hear fans say, oh,

they want coaches fired when things aren't going well.

Well, hell.

Well, hey, if he had the goddamn players to execute, it wouldn't be no damn problem.

Well, Bill Belichick was great at New England because he had the pieces, including Tom.

And now they want him, you know, I heard he might get fired sometime this week in North Carolina.

Bill, well, what the hell you want to do?

What you want to do?

Well, people look at it.

If you don't got Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and Larry Fitzgerald, you don't have good receivers.

But Larry Fitzgerald and Jerry Rice and Randy Moss ain't, I mean, it takes a special type of person to fit that system.

And Randy fit the system for a couple of years, and then all of a sudden he wanted more.

And Bill said, no.

Everybody's not going to be able to go, Ocho, weeks.

I count two passes this week.

I caught four passes last week.

I caught this.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Those guys are number one receivers for a reason.

A reason, yeah.

New England built their game of plan to win.

Other teams build their game plan plan around great players.

Right, right.

That's the difference.

So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays up.

I think getting away, hey,

Sirius, look, I don't want to see you guys till Monday.

I'll see you guys Monday.

Don't worry about this tape.

I'll see you guys Monday.

Come in and we'll have a quick meeting, get a lift in, get a run in, run some of this out.

I'll see you guys Monday.

Got Tuesday off.

Let's be ready to come back to work Wednesday and fix whatever, whatever we got going on.

It's good to clear our heads, get an opportunity to get away from this.

Hey, you don't need to watch television.

You don't need to read the paper, get to stay off the internet

and be ready when we come back in here on Wednesday.

Yeah.

Let's be ready to work and get this thing done.

Get it right.

They're going to have to fix it.

And don't let anything else come out the locker room.

Don't say nothing crazy after the media.

I'm not sure who might have talked to the media after the game.

I hope they took time to allow themselves to defuse from whatever anger, whatever emotions you may be having take a shower first take a shower first cool off then talk to the media don't give them no ammunition

you know what i'm surprised though ocho i'm surprised how many people when they go to the locker room the first thing they do is check their phone

oh yeah absolutely okay because i'm one of them just i'm shocked by that yeah i'm one of them

yeah but see you i don't know you played in that era you played in the era that they did have social media.

So

I'm glad I didn't, I didn't, I didn't play in that era.

I'm glad.

Yeah,

it just started.

It just started.

So I call social media.

The guy, do they, you think they check their phone at halftime too?

No, I don't know about that.

I don't know about that one.

I don't know about that one.

Yeah.

My last year, I checked.

Okay, I'm out here cutting the food.

Let me see what they see what they're talking about.

What they talk about on IG?

Oh, Joe, what do you think about the tush push four times?

Michael Parsons says this is not football with two trash emojis.

Hey, if you can't stop it, don't knock it if you can't stop it.

If the Packers were able to do it, that wouldn't be a problem.

So, so, I mean, tush push is not football.

So, let's talk about some of the plays that other teams run that nobody can stop that aren't highlighted.

True.

We're going to start eliminating plays from certain teams that do one thing specifically well.

Just because somebody can do something better than anybody can do one thing.

Yeah.

Hey, find a way to stop it.

I know how to stop it.

I can't give the formula on how to stop it.

Yeah.

You know, my brothers tell us all the time, he says,

my goal was to do my job, do this one thing better than anybody else did anything.

I'm fine.

It seems to me that the tush push, the Eagles do this better than any other football team does anything else.

Yeah.

Whether it's rush the quarterback, whether it's throw the ball, whether it's run the ball, whatever the case is, the Eagles do the tush push better than any other football team do any other thing.

So I agree with you, Ocho.

Is it aesthetically pleasing?

No.

No.

But it will.

I don't believe you should throw it out just because somebody can't stop it.

Right.

So

it's

Michael.

Michael, Micah says it's trash.

He got the two trash can with the guy.

Dumping the trash in there.

What you think, Ocho?

Nah.

Micah, and being the competitor he is, it shouldn't matter.

Will anybody else run?

Well, you one of the best in the league.

You top three in the league.

It shouldn't matter.

You got to stop it.

Tampa, Tampa, Tampa is getting, what you call them, getting big days ready.

They day.

Don't let them move you.

At all.

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And I need downy rinse tonight.

And I need it more.

I can't wait for the bed and the smell of a meat.

I don't know what to do.

I'm always in the dark.

The swecking deck short smells like a

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