Deebo & Joe - MNF REACTION: Falcons UPSET Bills + Bears beat Commanders + Juju dragged BY HIS EAR?!

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welcome back to debo and joe i'm your host James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.

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How you doing today, y'all?

I'm doing solid, brother Debo.

Another good day to be on this thing talking that good football, how we do.

No question, baby.

Let's just go ahead and jump straight into it.

So the Bears went on ahead and beat the Commanders by one point, 25 to 24, dude.

Chicago, I was, I ain't gonna lie, I was a little, I was a little impressed, a little not impressed, but, you know,

here and there but chicago came out on the first drive dude and they went and said you know what we went and picked up moody for a reason we're gonna put him to use and they put him out there bro they let him get a try at a 47 yard field goal after he done got leg goal for missing field goals and all that and what he do yo he cashed in passed in brother cashed in

good money Good money.

So Washington come back out there.

I'm thinking they gonna answer.

They start moving the ball, bro.

They going down the field.

They get to like the 20, 21 yard line.

And your boy, Jaden Downs, what happened?

I don't know what happened.

This is what you don't need.

And this is how you lose games at home.

He threw a pick in the red zone.

Red zone, the worst place that you want to throw it, dude, it makes absolutely like that, that kills you.

That hurts you, dude.

Chicago comes back out and they, you know, they're about to capitalize with another what was it 40 48 yard field goal moody drop down on it again go ahead give it to him they get three points off the turnover bro yep it's up six nothing bro

six nothing i'm like ah still early you know maybe maybe washington they go they go get their stuff together you know

dude next perception

Dude fumbles the rock and Chicago recovers it.

I'm like, okay, maybe they not go get it together.

no maybe it's a bad day dude chicago comes in 35 yards dude of the uh

uh 35 yards on the first

what was it their first touchdown it was only 35 yards they had to go 13 to 7.

i mean 13 to zero at that point now they done they didn't turn the ball over twice and then gave up a total of 10 yards on the turnovers

like that right there is not winning football, dude.

No, that's how you're going to lose games at home.

Dude, no question.

And then Washington comes out and

actually,

I think Chicago ended up helping them.

I think they got a penalty on the third down that was an incompletion.

And it was a face mask that helped them.

And they went on ahead and scored the touchdown.

Now it's close against 13-7, man.

We got action going.

Yep, we got a game oh yeah

and then chicago they do some goofy stuff

they go for it they went for it on fourth down but you passed the ball dude why why why would you how would you pass the rock bro didn't didn't they didn't they have somebody that was doing pretty well running that ball that man

within the narrow yeah i think he on that same drive he had a a 10 and a 20 i think on the on that same drive just two play why wouldn't i just give him the rock and go ahead and let him dust up this one real quick?

That didn't make no sense to me right there.

Washington the ball back

and they got kind of

lucky, unlucky that they only Washington only scored a field goal.

Oh man.

Oh, they missed that one.

They missed that one.

That's the one they missed.

That's the one when he hit the upright.

That's the one that he did.

That was loud as hell.

It hit the upright.

Yeah, left, upright.

halftime 17 17 13.

it could have been worse though has a 13 7

yeah 13 7 i'm sorry

um daniels come back out he gets uh an intentional grounding that kind of backs him up but they ended up settling for a field goal so it's 10 13 now

by that time Chicago gets back out there and it's the third quarter.

What is it?

I think they only went like six plays

and

they ended up scoring a touchdown.

That's what it was.

They scored a touchdown, but they got a penalty on it.

Yes.

Yes.

Illegal motivation.

That's what it was, bro.

Then they ended up getting the field goal on that.

Right, then they ended up getting the field goal,

selling for the field goal.

That was weird.

Hey,

at least you got something, right?

Yeah, no, for sure.

For sure.

You got to get something.

Washington, they come out.

They kind of return the favor.

You know what I'm saying?

They go for it on fourth down.

They get 13 yards.

And then

they actually

get up because McDaniels throws, what was it, McCaffrey?

13.

McCaffrey.

Don't even 17, 16.

Yes, yes, yes.

So that's when Jaden Daniels, they started looking better.

They took the lead.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know if I would have.

Well, the weather was bad, so maybe I would have did the same thing, man.

and started then the bears get the ball back yeah this one has looked it started looking a little shaky though debo on that third it was looking good good good and in that third and one he bobbled the snap and when they were looking like they could have easily got that first down he gale bobbled it so they lost yards went for the field goal and they blocked the joint

Dude, it's been so many block field goals and

extra points and stuff, dude.

Like,

what are they?

I don't know what's going on.

Are you allowed to jump over?

Did they change the rules on that?

You can jump, you can jump over, but you can't leverage yourself.

You know, you can't push off nobody.

I think these dudes, I ain't seen nobody do.

Yeah, these dudes are tall.

These dudes are tall, bro.

Yeah, Washington come out, they go six plays, dude.

30, 63 yards.

Teddy,

24-16.

I'm thinking the gate's about to burst open, bro.

I'm like, maybe Washington done got they selled together, you know.

And that is not the case, dude.

Three plays, Chicago, 61 yards, touchdown.

Who did that right there?

My man Swift, brother.

He was balling, like catching the ball out of the backfield.

You know, a little short pass, he took 55.

Took it to the crib.

Dude, they went for two, but they missed that two, dude.

Yep.

So, I mean, they down.

They're down.

So right now, Bears down two.

24.

they end up trading punts I think through that and then

I believe Washington

ended up uh

this is when the the the turning the rock over right fumbled the ball on the exchange Jaden Daniels slippery ball as you trying to hand it off he kind of just threw it to him a little bit and buddy missed it and they he didn't even throw it to him he never got a hold of the ball dude that's what I'm saying the whole time and just he just I don't know what he was he could at some point I would have have panicked and just grabbed it.

That's what I'm saying.

He was trying to grab it and hand it off at the same time.

And it didn't even touch my man.

It was nowhere near his breadbasket, but he needed to get the rock.

So that joint,

Bears fell on that.

So that's costly.

Oh, no question.

Chicago get the ball.

I think it was like almost six minutes left.

He end up knowing that they're going to run the rock.

They hand the rock to, I think, Swift like five times.

He get almost 35 yards, dude, knowing that it's a running situation.

And you let these boys basically run the clock out until they decided to kick a 38-yard game with her with my dude, Moody, who came through and showed them why he still should be in the league, dude.

1,000%.

Yeah, it's,

bro, Washington, yo,

they can't do what they did there.

The turnovers, the biggest thing, the turnovers killed them.

Like,

you got to be able to at least have a little bit more ball security than that.

Like, the penalties, y'all, they had too many, you know, self-inflicted wounds, you know,

hurting themselves.

You know, it wasn't anything that

was done to him.

I feel like him not having,

what's the receiver he didn't have?

Man,

damn,

McLaren.

Scary, scary Terry.

Yeah, he, yeah.

Yeah,

I think that that hurting.

Not being able to have that

deep threat to be able to stretch the field, I think that hurting right there.

And the offense themselves, just they need to get more of a consistent run game, dude.

You know, but Chicago,

they went on out there, bro, jumped on their neck.

They did that.

They started off real fast, 13 up.

Swift, bro,

out of control.

He was balling, bro.

14 for 108.

Andy at 67 rushing.

Tutty.

And the biggest thing for me, too, was at the end of the game when they knew he had to run the rock.

And he ran the rock from six minutes all the way down to they could kick the field goal when the clock ran out.

Like that part of the game, being able to know you have to run the ball.

We're trying to milk this clock.

We need to get down and this field goal can win the game.

And them knowing he was going to run and him still running it was my thing.

Was like, that's that's going to help out Caleb Williams so much, taking off pressure, not feeling like you got to do everything.

You know, they know you're going to run.

And you still was able to hand it off to him, run it down there, be able to get him in field goal range, got to the the 17-yard line.

If we can't make that, then we didn't deserve the win.

So I was happy for Swift to be able to go out there and then being able to not put all the pressure on Caleb.

It's easy.

Yeah, he didn't turn the ball over, which was big.

So the defense, they came up big, three turnovers.

They capitalized on that, getting 13 points off those turnovers, you know.

And Moody, man, if he don't get...

If he don't get

special teams player of the week, I don't know who deserve it.

Like I said, Caleb, he was, you know, know, he was efficient, you know, 250 yards or so, 17, 29, no turnovers.

That's, you know, that's a big thing.

That's, that's a real big, but they still need to improve.

They had nine penalties.

And, you know, the defense need to be able to go out there and like, you know, choke, choke they ass out, put your foot on their neck, you know, when it's time and, you know, keep the pressure on them.

I mean, literally and figuratively, like, you know, more consistent pressure.

And just when you have the opportunity and you're up there, you gotta, you gotta put them out their misery, dude.

No, for sure.

And I think some red zone efficiency, you know, like you said, when we kept being out there, they kept getting those field goals.

We need to turn some of them into touchdowns.

Like, it's all good, like, no, no self-inflicted wounds with penalties.

And then just being able to convert in them in those end zone situations, like being able to get some touchdowns out of that.

Yeah, for sure.

The next one we had, what was it?

Falcons.

Listen, dude, this is the crazy thing.

So I'm sitting here, bro, and I'm watching these games, right?

Yes.

So I'm watching both games.

And I don't know why y'all keep doing this, bro.

Like a seven and an eight game, and I'm watching both games.

I ain't even lie to you, bro.

At one point,

I thought,

bro, at one point,

I thought the Bears was playing the Falcons and

Buffalo was playing the Commanders, man.

The white jerseys and the, man, I'm,

dude, I was, I was, I was, I was up there getting confused, man.

It's like,

oh, you know, I was like, wasn't it?

No, no, no, no, they ain't playing them.

I'm like, dude, yeah.

Especially like when it's on at the same time and you doing this, you like.

Brother, you're trying to get the split, you know?

Yes, yes, you're trying to get a lot going on.

It's a lot of football going on and you want to be engaged too.

So I feel you.

It's a lot of moving parts, man.

Like trying to watch two games at one time.

That shit was crazy yesterday.

And why do they start at 7 10 and 8 like

can't they're on at the same exact time it's like first quarter and one and like going about to be halftime in the other one dude it it

it just it it actually so i write things down

and i caught myself writing something down on the buffalo side that that on the one game that should have been on the other game And I did it for like half a page.

I'm like, oh my God, dude.

Like, oh, my God.

What am I?

I'm like, I'm

Debo.

What am I doing, man?

Look, man, we got it.

We got to figure this out.

For sure, man.

Like, come on, give us, like, do, do like a, do like, if you go do that, like, do, do, do a six and a nine or something.

You know what I'm saying?

Yes.

Like,

I mean, it's, you being, I mean, y'all being a little greedy right now.

You know what I'm saying?

They get into the bag, Debo.

They're not worried about what the hell we talking about.

They get into the bag.

Hey, hey, no question.

falcons went out there and beat up

literally dude beat up on the bills bro unexpected oh yes for on my side i'm gonna just tell you how i feel i did not expect this in any stretch of the imagination

atlanta came out the first play dude and they fumbled the rock

and got lucky buffalo recovered it but the defense was off size dude

it could have started so much differently yes my man came out kicked it he stripped that ball good boom and they recovered it cleanly and it was like lined up in the neutral zone oh my god that that that that that that that upsets me so bad with something like that happened especially when you have a you know a game turnaround play like that and all of a sudden something that don't even really matter

we lose we lose this ball and the running back takes off 21 yards run through the db's chest head neck and everything else oh my god you

he look he looked for him he looked for him

hey he was he was about to try and like like like dodging and he was like no uh i ain't gonna be able to if i try and dodge him he might tackle me he might tackle me no i'm i went right right into him boom I said, oh my God.

Hey, that's football, man.

That's the type of football I like.

I ain't even gonna lie.

I knew you love that because I was like, I wrote it down.

I said, why did he just change his?

He could have scored easily with like, no, he couldn't have, man.

He would have taken a chance of trying to get away and got dragged down, tackled, and not made the goal line.

So the best way to go is not try and avoid him.

Just go straight.

He'd have had to take another three, four yards like this instead of just, look, it's a Brian Thorne.

You already got a full head of steam.

He coming like sideways anyway.

Ron Thorne, he did.

Dude, that's football.

Debo.

he versus you.

I'm here for that.

I'm here for all of that, too.

That was, I was like, oh, yeah, he set the tone.

He set the tone.

Yeah.

Then Josh Allen come back out there.

First play, 45.

Boom.

Then he scrambled on another play, though.

And 19.

19-yard touchdown to Allen.

I'll be tied 7-7.

It looked like a barn burner.

Doug, I'm like,

is this going to be one of those games where we we get 40 to 43?

I'm like, I hate, I hate, I hate.

I know you hate those.

I hate those games.

So a possession later, Atlanta, they get a stop on third and three,

but

it's a defensive penalty, which gives them a first down.

They end up scoring.

Now it's seven to 14.

They got a nice little league going now.

It ain't nice.

It's one touchdown, but it's better than what I thought they was going to be able to do.

No, no, for sure.

It's the man, two drives, two tutties.

I'm Atlanta.

I'm geeked.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm feeling

we're doing something right.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Atlanta came back out there when Buffalo went out.

They went ahead and sacked Joss Allen that next possession on second down and third down.

And third.

Come on.

And third down.

And they ended up having to punt.

Like,

defense, they did what they had to do right there.

Yes.

That's no question about it.

But Atlanta came back out, and I'm like, oh, man, they get sacked on the first play.

But what happened?

It's a penalty again.

Off sides on Buffalo.

And then that boy, Bijan,

the next play,

takes off on him for 81.

How did you not get him tackled on the sideline?

Like,

bite, scratch something.

try to push even if you push him like he's tiptoeing up the sideline out of your arms i don't know how he didn't go down dude i don't know how he didn't go down or go out of bounds i know how he didn't go down he didn't get enough of him yeah and that's bijan behind bijan nice though yes bijan nice though

yes he and he he could he can run it and catch it too

uh-huh yeah definitely atlanta's next possession They go for it on, I believe it's fourth down, and they pass the rock.

Why are you passing the rock?

And you have Bijan sitting right there, and you're going against the

30th ranked Rundiff

in the NFL, and we're going to go and pass the rock for what?

For what?

I don't know.

You know, that's just bad.

That's not a bad, that's a bad play, Call Debo.

I don't,

I think, I think these, these, these coaches, and they start trying to outthink and outsmart

the coordinator, go do you know what I'm saying?

Like,

I don't know, I don't know,

like, dude, this is what you're doing.

They know what you like, make them, like, make them stop it, they can stop you.

Then we get a little bit of drama.

First play, Josh Allen does something that's not like Josh Allen.

He throws a pick.

Those steps in front of him,

bruh.

And here comes Atlanta.

He got greedy.

He got greedy and thought he could make it.

He got greedy and thought he could make it.

Saw wide open

and just happened to get that second foot stepped out of bounds before he was able to lunge across.

Dude, that would have crossed.

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That would have been 28 to 7.

Debo, I'm not mad at him, though.

I'm not mad.

No, I'm not either.

I ain't going to lie.

He was.

listening.

I'm doing the same thing.

I know you're trying to get there.

He was trying to get there.

It wasn't nothing there.

If he was a little faster, he would have stroked off on it.

I know, I know, I know, I know.

He just gotta, yeah, he gotta get a little bit more lunge, but I ain't gonna lie.

I wasn't mad at the effort.

And if that was, if he would have scored that tightie, it would have been ugly, ugly.

Oh, it would have been super ugly.

Come on, man.

In the end of the half, bro, it would have already 28 to 7.

28 to 7.

Not to mention, your boy Bizon, he got 12 for 138, a touchdown and 14 receiver.

Like,

what, uh, Sphinx, Sphinx?

How you say his name?

The quarterback for Atlanta, how you say his name, bro?

Uh, Pinks?

Pinks.

Yes, Pennix, Pennix, Michael Pennix Jr.

Penix, Michael Pennix Jr.

Do he was 12, 19, 171 and a tutty.

He was dropping bumps.

He was, you know what?

He was throwing that thing.

This is what I would have do.

If I'm what I don't understand with quarterbacks, is if you have a receiver that's better than the corner that's guarding him, I'm going to throw it to him every time.

He was throwing it to Drake London every time because he was like, oh, he's better than who's ever guarding him right here.

He's going to be open.

So I'm going to throw it there.

I don't think they thought Drake London had it like that.

That's what it is.

Man,

I'm telling you.

They were up, you know,

balling in the first half, and

Buffalo was down.

Like, what, Joss was 5 or 12, 98 yards, and one of those plays was 45 yards.

So really, he got 40,

what, 453 yards on the other four plays or something?

You know what Buffalo was doing too, though?

Where's James Cook?

Dude, he was only 7 to 30 in the first half.

You know what I'm saying?

It wasn't too much James Cook.

And what happened in the third quarter, though, they come out and they go cooking Allen like all the way down the field, bro.

73,

touchdown.

Halftime adjustments.

Hey, halftime.

They have time right at the game.

Adjustments is good.

They just came out.

Like, I don't know.

Maybe something happens later on throughout.

I don't know.

They came.

They get uncharacteristic.

Yeah.

And then, you know, I believe even the defense, the next possession against Atlanta, they sacked dude on the first down for 13 yards, putting them behind the sticks.

They couldn't catch back up, had to punt the rod.

Yep,

Buffalo then go for it on fourth and two, and don't get it with the pass with the then the Josh Allen with the underhand flip jump

that came up a little short.

Yo, he could have, he could have probably

could have got it to him.

I think he was scared dude was up on him and he ain't want to look back to see, so he just he just tried to do the quick,

yeah, the quick get it out to him you know what i'm saying that ain't work no that ain't work at all and then atlanta they get down there they're trying to capitalize but again

another field goal block right

like these dudes what was raining there too i can understand that yeah but they did get a new ball in though

i don't know

A little here, a little there.

A little here, a little there.

The defense did good.

They blocked the field goal.

Yeah, I give it to him.

I don't know why I'd be wanting because you know how hard it is to block a field goal, bro.

Like, it's it's extremely hard to block a field goal, bro.

I know, like, to get that push and get the hands up and make sure, like, and hopefully the you know, the dude kicks the ball.

It's not as, you know, his trajectory is not as high as it, you know, it may need to be.

Like, like, that's hard.

Anyway, they end up trading, I believe, it was two, three, and outs.

Um, Atlanta again

with six minutes 43 seconds dude they go 14 plays 68 yards they hold it for five minutes and they score a field goal putting them up 10

like that that hurt them yeah that hurt him and even you know later that later that drive josh allen he ends up throwing that kind of that kind of finished yes because they was trying to drive down there get down he was trying to make sure they tried to score like he wanted to score then they would have the on-side kick, on-side kick, and then see what they can go.

See where they can go from there.

So, it was damn near over once they got that last, uh, that last

24-14.

Yeah, when they took up that five minutes, like it's over with, like, you need 10 points, like, you need a you need to score, and then you still gotta get an onside kick.

Has anybody recovered an on-side kick this year?

Shit, not that I know of.

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think so, man.

Like,

you gotta to say, I'm about to kick it onside, and then you got to go, and you don't even get the run and start no more.

You got to get no on-side kick, man.

You got to do something.

You got to do something crazy to get an on-side kick, man.

Nah, them

on-side kicks, it was already hard to do.

You got to get the perfect bounce.

You got to hopefully get that thing where it bounces over the dude that's back there behind the second dude's head.

So it's a

lot of things.

And now you can't take off.

Like you said, you like, basically, yeah, they're making it too hard to get the on-side kicks.

Yeah.

Atlanta, Atlanta balled out, though, dude.

They started early.

Before you knew it, it was already, you know, 21 to 7 had time.

Like, they just dominated in the run game.

It was, I mean, Buffalo's defense.

I mean, I didn't expect them to do that well in the run game, you know, even though Buffalo's defense, like I said, is ranked 30th.

But Dijon finished 19th for 170, rushing and a tutty and he still had 68 receiving bro

like that's your boy london that's

10 for 158 yes yes yes and damn near two tutties he only got one

but like

atlanta bro it it it it kind of it kind of shocked me because i'm always expecting buffalo with josh allen and i don't know that the defense isn't doing too well but with josh allen i'm always expecting expecting them to be able to score points, be able to keep it close.

I don't really wasn't expecting too much from Atlanta.

I haven't really seen too much to be.

You think Buffalo might have been overlooking them?

They could have been, but at the same time, I mean, yeah, that's not, I'm not going to take away from what they did on the field.

Atlanta had to do those things.

They had to go ball.

They had to go make those plays.

Pennix wasn't just throwing on routes on air.

People were out there and they were making the catches.

They were making the plays.

Bijan

was a man.

I think he was just showing people really may not be able to watch his games, but now you can really see how good he actually is.

And 19 for 170, that's special.

You know what I'm saying?

Catching the ball out of the backfield, being able to turn it up, that's special.

Um, yeah, so they were and then Terrell, like a couple of their DB, their cornerback CJ TJ Terrell, Terrell, he's a baller, and I seen him making a couple of plays on those third-down stops.

So, I mean, it was just a good overall effort from them, but I always

expected a little bit more from Buffalo.

Yeah,

I think Penix did a good job.

He was

almost 250 or maybe a little over 250 yards.

Big thing, though, he had no turnovers.

Like, that's the big thing.

Even though it was a couple balls that was, you know, that was in hands that they could have got a hold of and took the other way.

But, you know, if it was a fifth, we all be drunk too.

But no harm, no foul.

You know what I'm saying?

So

I think they need,

big thing, they need to improve, you know, on their, on their second half, sustain the momentum from the first half, bro.

That would have been,

like I said, you put, put your foot on their throat and choke them out.

Like,

choke them out.

Try not to get your kick block too, but

that's a given.

But limit the big plays.

You know, Allen got some big chunk plays here and there that allowed them to get down the field and be in position to score or score an opportunity.

So

I think that's what they they really need to uh to focus on i think it was a lot too with the buff with the buffalo you can't like end of the day no matter how they you can't lose the turnover battle like that you know what i'm saying you can't josh all even with those plays with the um handing the ball off with the like the third downs the short the short plays the fourth and twos the not converting on those that's that that's them that's a turnover you know i'm saying on the third and one they're trying to run a jet sweep fumbling the handoffs and having a punt on that when you can really sustain the drive like those are drive killers and then when you turn the ball over with picks that's just not winning football and then with them you just keep that that's that's how the falcons are playing well running the ball well uh converting bijan being able to control the clock you're not being able to have that many possessions and if you're wasting them on turnovers you're not going to get the ball that many times to give you a chance to win the game so i think it was tough game for the bills because you can't lose a turnover battle and then at the same time atlanta they're not turning it over they're toting it they're converting you know i'm saying to scoring so i mean it was a good yeah they was getting some pressure on allen now

for sure don't get it twisted either just straight rushing or or they were you know blitzing coming with five like

they were you know they were doing they were doing what they needed to do i understand

that you know josh was missing you know a receiver or two a few weapons but you know that's part of the game you got to be able to you know go down there and and figure it out and figure out what you need to do to

get some quality that's close to what

that person was, or at least get the, get somewhere close to the abilities to, you know, still do the things that they could do to some, you know, to some extent.

They need to sustain drives.

It was, you know, too many penalties.

I think they had eight penalties or something like that.

They have to find a way to improve their run defense, dude.

If they don't do something with that,

it is a hard road to hold when you cannot stop the run because now you got to put more people up there to try and stop it.

And now the play action is going to destroy you.

They lucky them boys was sitting in the gun because the play action is real fast then.

But you get a team that's running that rock on you and they coming from under the quarterback and they getting that good play action where you sitting there, you ain't, you looking at a blind hand because you lost vision of the ball you know what i'm saying in between the tackles

you know what i'm saying bro i know exactly what you're talking about you start getting real real

oh

where's the ball i don't know bomb dump

yeah now you see that the lineman ain't coming at you so now you just start trying to dig out of there for your life hoping you're going in the right direction

well you're going in the right direction of your coverage, but you don't know if that person is going to be there.

You know what I mean?

But you could have maybe affected something that was closer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't,

I don't know, man.

I think

Buffalo just looks very beautiful now to me, dude.

I feel like.

I feel like we might, you know,

I feel like we might be up there in the top two or three

in the AFC period, right?

You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's just how I feel, bro.

I mean,

I feel the same way you feel with that.

Like,

defense looking good, getting better.

Offense, he's starting to get all the weapons.

I mean, we got Washington.

We got DK coming into his own.

We got the real running game now with Warren.

Is it a two-headed monster in Gamewell too?

With Warren and Gamewell, just both toting the rock like that.

I don't know.

I'm just asking you.

Is that what you said that i mean i'm i'm not still does look good yeah man i'm you know i don't want to get started too early i'm just i'm just gonna focus on what we got to get to first and that's just the north you know oh

and does that do y'all play um do we play the uh bengals this week is it y'all or is it we i mean listen i'm asking you fucking debo we okay okay because i'm hoping it's i'm hoping it i'm hoping it's we played the bang i'm gonna give you the we since you defected yesterday We was in the locker room.

We was in the locker room together.

We, we.

We, we.

So we played the Bengals on Thursday.

Speaking of playing the Bengals,

Mike T.

openly questioned the Browns'

decision-making for their general manager, Andrew Berry, on trading Flacco

to the Bengal.

Listen to this.

You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us

because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.

But that's just my personal feelings.

Hey, bro, I love Coach T.

I love Coach T because you know what I take from it?

I'm like, he said, we must be a lot smarter than us.

He's basically at the end of the day, he wanted to play Browning over Flacco.

I would say if I was Coach T.

And if he is the starting quarterback for your team, why would you help a division opponent in any type of way that we see as Lincoln oil?

You know what I'm saying?

Like, trade him somewhere, but don't trade him there because now we got a plan.

We got to go against him.

I ain't trading him nowhere that's going to be close to my division.

If I can't trade him away, he go sit there.

I might even move him to three if that's how bad you feel about it.

I am not going to give him to somebody that I got to play again

and have an opportunity to beat me with the guy that I said, you getting traded over here because you can't do nothing for us.

Maybe you could do something over there, but I really don't think you could do nothing over there.

That's why I traded you to my indivision opponent.

That's really what Mike is saying.

I don't see it.

I don't understand it.

He's smarter than me.

Really, what he's saying is i don't see it i don't understand he's a dumbass that's what he wanted to say what he wanted to say

but

dang what he said

i could say that's what he wanted to say i'm just interpreting what i felt was said in between yes the words that weren't said because when when somebody say when somebody pops off and say he must be a lot smarter than me that means he's dumber than me like i'm

hey hey hey your son your son Hey, oh,

I guess you done have more experience than me.

You know more than I do.

Oh, I guess you know more than pops, don't you?

Oh.

So, like, I know he's being cyber sarcastic with it, but at the same time, going against the difference.

What you call it?

What you call it?

What?

Sarcastic?

No, what was the word before that?

What was what I saying?

I thought you said cyber.

I'm like, what that means?

No, no, no.

You said cyber sarcastic.

I'm like, what's that one?

No, no, no.

Sarcastic.

Because, you know, I think Coach T is making.

I think Coach T is saying something for real, though, bro.

You know what he's saying.

He don't believe, like, you're not supposed to do that.

Like, if, and especially, he started for us.

He started for the Browns.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Hey,

you know what?

That might make sense why he ain't released me early in the season when I was asking for it my last year there.

No, bro.

No, he's not.

No, no, no, no what you gonna have you go there and try to bust up the quarterback for this no you're gonna sit right here be mad i'm not you're not gonna go over there you ain't going nowhere no

no sit right here for a minute they almost got a chance though if they had won that playoff game we would have seen them in new england though oh my see i know i ain't gonna even lie to you i'd have been foaming at the mouth like a rabbit dog got rabies that's why i'd have been like cool joe i'd have been like cool joe

and that's why that's why I coached T.

No, not to do it.

Because you look at you.

Look at that.

No.

They don't want none of that smoke.

Debo, that additional

bulletin board material?

No.

Hey, no, no, no question, man.

Aaron Rodgers has something to say about the Aquature Field, man.

He said.

it is borderline unplayable.

Bro, what you think of Actress Field, dude?

Well,

I think it was, was it Aquature when you played or was it Heinz Field?

It was hines yeah what do you think of the field period it's still cared for by the same crew i'm assuming

they don't change crews um i mean it definitely wasn't the worst but it definitely wasn't the best i like that it was grass at least but i think during the beginning of the season it'll be better than at the end of the season maybe just all the events and all the stuff that they got pit playing on it and everybody that they uses the field it kind of gets a little wore down but at the beginning of the season wasn't mad at all but when you play there towards the end you could tell it's been a lot of wear and tear so they can definitely do the main thing is keeping that feel right they could do more of trying to keep people off of it you know what i'm saying as much as possible but if not i mean just maintenance in it i don't know how they could possibly do it but the browns feel i know that joint was maintenance this one i would say this i i doing

i'm yeah i'm with you it's multiple use It's multiple uses for it.

Like, I believe, I don't even know if it's the time, but I think sometimes they may even have like concerts in there or something or some type of show in there but the big thing is like you got you got two different teams playing on the surface and right now it ain't even bad aaron you ain't seen it bad yet wait till the playoffs for the high school start

high school teams are playing in there and

They may or may not be able to get the field back right.

Like grass don't just grow overnight.

You know what I'm saying?

Real natural grass.

Like it don't, it don't just grow overnight and

to spend the money spend the money to reside it

you still need a few days for it to you know take

yeah when we played and i think it was 2007 it was raining raining raining and i think uh pitt had played before that or something and so they tried to do a swap over of the field and they put the new turf over the old turf because i guess it was like so wet dude and it just the ball like, it's plays where you can see

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We're playing Miami.

I think PZ had just went there in 2007.

And

my foot slides down into the dirt, like up to like over the top of my ankle, dude.

It's like quarterway up my shin.

See, that's that's not okay.

Oh, dude, like he ain't, yeah, he ain't, he ain't seen nothing yet.

What they're doing now is, you know, the sand, dirt, all that.

They just filling in the divots, sprinkling it down with some water and throw some, throw some grass seed.

But, you know, it's only been, what, a week in between the last game that was on there, maybe two at the most.

It needs more time than that.

And then before that, I think Pitt was on it every weekend for two weeks straight.

I think they may actually use it on Friday and Saturday when they play Saturdays.

Yeah.

So

that's not going to keep you.

Like you said, it's natural grass.

It takes more than a day to grow back.

And if you got other people using it and breaking it down, like you say, I didn't know high school games on it.

I just do it with Pitt and probably like some concerts and stuff.

But the more that you use.

that feel in the playoffs dude they have they have a lot of games there bro

yeah yeah that's gonna break it up that's gonna gonna have no the main you got to keep the main thing the main thing

yeah

your boy haslam cleveland

they got a new deal going brook park they moving to brook park yes they are you like it over there is it a good area what's what's going down what's better which one would you like to uh

or what's it what you prefer the browns fans probably wanted downtown in the city, in Cleveland, like around downtown where the basketball stadium is and where the Indians, I mean, where the uh uh guardian stadium is everybody likes downtown because that's where it's always been i know the hasls they're going to make it look amazing they're going to build it in brook park they're going to build like a whole hotels and uh restaurants and all of this stuff it's going to look where is brook park in comparison to uh downtown uh it's probably 20 minutes away it's like right by the airport oh it ain't that far oh no it's not far at all it's 20 minutes away from where it's at right now literally 20 minutes down the street and they're gonna make a whole they're gonna make it look amazing i think the city's just a little upset because they want it downtown they want to keep cleveland and everything like kind of down there i know for one thing whatever the hazms are going to do they're going to make it look beautiful and they're going to be able to make all of the money from the stuff like the parking and all that they're not being able to get that when they have the stadium downtown right now that's what it is so when they come build their stuff

I think that they're going to be able to make a whole lot of money and it's going to be beautiful for Cleveland.

There's nothing really down there.

So

I think it's going to make Cleveland.

If it ain't nothing down there, where you go go to, you know, where the fans go to when they don't?

They building it.

I'm telling you, he's building a whole, it's a stadium with a whole little city.

Oh.

The Browns, yeah, the Hasims are going to, they're not doing it like baby.

They about to spend some dough and this joint is going to look crazy, but it's just moving it from downtown to another location.

That's what Cleveland's worried about.

I know it's going to look vicious.

So when they go, and it's probably going to have a dome.

So then they'll be able to get like if the Super Bowl, you can't host the super bowl if you have a dome you know i'm saying so certain things they can do concert venues it's gonna be a dome i think it's gonna be a dome too yeah it's a dome now they get a super bowl now you gotta worry about the weather stopping them ain't gotta worry about none of that we ever got a super bowl in pittsburgh i don't think so i don't think because i don't i think you gotta have a dome or something like that brother

Yeah, we ain't gonna never have one in Pittsburgh.

They ain't about to get no dome, babe.

They ain't going like that.

They ain't never about to get no dome, man.

That's why cleveland man ain't

yeah don't i mean that cleveland ain't think we was ever gonna get no dome

so it's a dome or it's not a dome you said you think it's a dome you don't know if it's a dome i think it's a dome for sure

you think it's a dome for sure how is that not a

what

hey

i'm uh

I'm 100% right all the time, most of the time.

See, that's what you just said to me.

I know, I just, I just said some bullshit, Debo.

I just did

a bullshit, man.

I did, I did.

You caught me on it good, too.

Branch for uh firing off on Juju.

I really just said that.

What do you say?

No, my bad.

Go ahead, brother.

I said, I really just said some bullshit.

Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

So, the NFL just uh suspended branch for uh firing off on juju.

It's gonna cost him 76,624.

Branch is planning to appeal it, but the vice president of football operations, John Runyon, said on the penalty,

your aggressive non-football play act was entirely unwarranted, posted a risk of injury, and clearly violated the standards of conduct and sportsmanship expected of NFL players.

Your conduct reflected poorly on the NFL and has no place in our game.

Brant

I did a little childish thing, but I'm tired of people doing stuff in between plays and refs don't catch it.

They trying to bully me out there.

And

I shouldn't have did it.

It was childish.

Hey, listen, I'm going to tell you this right now, though.

Go ahead, pop off, Debo.

Look at this picture, Joe.

Can you please put the picture up?

Look at this picture, Joe.

You see that picture, Joe?

Yeah, man.

I want you to look at Juju's left ear.

This man is dragging him around by his ear.

That's, bro, that's that look, that's so disrespectful.

Punch me in the face, bro.

That's something my mama do.

Well, not my mama.

Other mamas do.

My mama go beat the dog shit out of me.

Okay.

You go drag me.

You see his fate?

He getting drugged by the ear.

Juju, what's going on, bro?

You can't get, you can't have this on national

everything.

You see you get drugged by your ear what you should have did instead of after he hit you and you did the fake fallback you should have just fired back right then and there

what

what's your

what's your take on it what do you think or

how would you have responded I would have got out down here with your ear getting grabbed.

You know you got some big ears too, bro.

He might have messed around and ripped that off.

See, Debo, there you go.

Shut your ass up, Debo.

Come on, my ears, man.

But I see, look, this is, this is, this was popping, Debo.

I would have definitely had to fire back off on branch if he popped me right in my head after the game.

Natural reaction would have been, boom, boom.

That's just natural reaction.

Because at the same time, we the same.

You coming over here, like, boom.

And then, but this is my part.

I think Juju, did Juju know when he hit him in the back?

Not hit him in the back, but kind of like cracked back on him that he was feeling some type of ball.

So he popped him.

He popped him in the game.

But that's

no, he popped him in the game.

And that, and that, and that's what, and that's what my other part is with Branch.

It's not right to come and steal off on somebody after the game when you say people be doing stuff all in between.

The wrists are ref don't call it.

I'm like, this you in the game too.

Catch him, you know what I'm saying, slipping.

And then you're going to be good.

And then there's no $78,000 fine.

You're not having to like literally fight somebody after the game is over.

Now it's time.

Like people go into the locker room, shaking hands.

Like you had so much time during the game to pop off on Juju or like just catch him.

If they, you said they just got three hours, you got three hours to go ahead and try and steal on him one good time legally in between the lines.

And we on defense, too.

So, you see him, Branch.

You could, you could just one time, you know what?

There's a tackle play going over there, fire mommy just fire off on Juju.

It's in the play, like, you might not even get a flag.

You know what I'm saying?

It was just

be close to it, just be around it.

But just be close to it and make sure he close to it and go ahead.

I just ain't I just ain't like him stealing off on my man

after the game is over.

That's just my whole part.

And then obviously, Juju got retaliated.

I like my juju, you could just fire back.

After the game, he tried to pull the little, the fake jump, the bluff.

I'm like, oh, it's a fight though now because the game's over.

Game's over.

Like, it's a real fight.

Now he's right there.

Unless somebody's like, when they say something like, hold me back, hold me back.

I'm like, nobody's holding back right now.

Everybody's here chilling.

Something can really go down right now.

And it got, and it got, and it just started getting to it.

So that was unfortunate that my man got on the ground and started pulling my man's ear.

He dragged me by his ear, bro.

He got that.

Because he floated his head and his face mask and then ripped him by the face.

He ripped his face mask off and then started dragging me by his ears.

Come on.

I don't condone this sort of violence.

No,

I don't condone it at all.

Neither I know, and I know you don't also.

I'm just saying that it was just crazy how he popped off on my man.

I don't condone that kind of of violence, yeah.

Cause I was going to say any kind, but I condone some kind of violence.

Yeah, so

yeah, there's some type of violence.

Branches apology, man.

I ain't no apology.

You can't say I did a childish thing and then go with the excuse, the but,

the butt.

When you say sorry, but

that's like me being like, hey, Joe, man, I'm sorry.

for hitting you in your face but you know you shouldn't have said what you said no no no no after that the but that kills everything that you said before it

you can't do the but he did a but

but i'm tired of people doing stuff between the play and the rest don't catch it they be trying to bully me and i don't i shouldn't do it it was childish dude i'm not yeah i can't no

listen they was finding me for plays on the field And I was losing it.

I got suspended, dude.

Like for

a play on the field.

Like,

dude,

I'm not trying to lose no game.

You know what, PZ?

That was my first start, man.

Oh, yeah.

I ever got was PZ fighting, dude.

At the Browns?

Yeah, green.

Before the game, dude, that was my first start I got, dude.

Hey, and the thing was, he spit on me.

I totally forgot that, bro.

Bro, he spit on Peasy or PZ.

Oh, bro.

Peasy.

He spit on him.

yes,

yes, that's what, that's what ended up happening.

You could find the tape, like you could see it, like

a little,

like that right there,

yeah.

Oh,

dang, he got, he got suspended.

Well, just for that game, he lost the game check.

Of course, you lose it, uh, you lose the game check.

I don't even know if he lost the game check, though.

I think they might have just kicked him out the game, to be honest with you.

I don't even think, I don't even think they got fined for that.

You know, that was G Day.

That was like back in the G-Day.

They like, man, just go to the locker room, man.

Yeah, that was

damn

good old time, yeah, for sure, for sure.

Yo, speaking of good old time, man, the Eagles, like, my dude said it was time, and he retired mid-season,

uh, Smith,

yeah, after the loss to the Giants, he he retired.

So,

yeah, dude, dead, dang bro i was i i like that gotta be like just looking at uh looking at the statement like it gotta be something like like real like like personal going on i don't know too many people that just without some other

issues or or

or something going on they know personally that just you know retires in the middle you know of the season like you know but debo i think dudes now are starting to just you know i think he probably was thinking about it for a little bit and then once you get into the season things start start not really rocking the way you kind of wanted to and i know sedarius he he's made he's been in the league for a while kind of og made a little bit of made some bread you know it could just be man i don't feel like doing this no more you know what i'm saying

I don't know, man.

I can't do that.

I guess that's just me, me personally, because when I came back to the Stillers in 2014, bro, bro,

and we were playing, uh, we were about to play Tampa, and so they signed me back up, and I'm out there.

And

the first practice,

it was, I believe it was that Wednesday, right?

And you know, that's full pads.

So, you know, we go, we do the pad thing, man.

That next day, bro,

I was like,

yo,

I can't believe I signed.

My body was hurting me, bro.

I was so hurt, dude.

Like,

I'm sitting there like,

you know what?

I don't know if I really want to do this.

Like, I know I did.

Like, I'm doing it only because, like, my brothers, these guys that I've been there with for, you know, for 10 plus years, it's Troy, it's Ike, it's Kiesel.

I'm like, you know what?

And my kids say, yes, I can't.

So I came back and now I'm sitting there.

I'm like, yo, I can't, I don't even know if, like, I might have to, dude, I can't come in for practice the next day.

My body just did not, it, dude, it took, it took a good, probably a good three, four days for my body to get back right.

And then we had a game.

So we

played against Tampa Ray.

So,

bruh.

Into the game, they're like, yeah, we're going to use you sparingly, you know, you know, maybe 15 or so snaps.

I'm like, all right, cool.

I can work my way back into it, man.

43 snaps later, bro.

I'm like, oh, my God.

Yeah.

See, all those fresh off, dude,

fresh off the street, bro.

Off retired.

I mean, I was only retired for like 14, 15 days, two weeks, something like that.

But

like, I'm like, yo, I haven't went through, you know, training and none of that.

Like, it was like, I'm like, nah, this is not.

Yeah, this is not, this is not me.

And the only, I ain't gonna lie to you, dude.

The only thing that stopped me was like,

I was like, you know what?

My daddy said, you start something, you finish it.

Yeah, I finish it.

And that's the only thing that kept me going, bro.

Hey, look.

Of course, I felt, you know, I went back into the emotions of being getting used to it,

like, liking playing again, falling back in love with the game.

So I ended up signing it, you know, a couple more years after that.

But, dude,

I just,

I don't know if I could, I could do that and just.

be like, yeah, I know,

you know, I was supposed to do this or do that.

unless like i said you're dealing with something real personal you know that you you need to remove yourself from it you know yeah it could it could it could like like you said too you know you never know what people are going through it could be family it could be that but at the same time if you don't want to be there That's a place you don't need to be.

You can't play football, NFL, professional football.

So if you're kind of like, your heart's not in it, you're not trying to be there.

You know what I'm saying?

Listen, listen, my heart was in it.

My body wasn't cooperating with what my heart was saying.

My body was in the same place.

You're a good man.

The pain, the pain, bro.

My low back.

Bruh, like it was, it was not, it was not good.

I'm sitting there and it was,

we're playing the game, right?

And I go to jump over the dude.

And as I go to jump over the dude, like my feet get hit and I land on my back, right?

Man, you know, I don't jump that high.

Like, I already had, you know, I done had a couple back surgeries, so I ain't jumping that high.

Man, I couldn't have been no higher than like this off the ground, but I landed on my back, bro.

I think I told you this, man.

I look at Mike T, he looked at me, and then after the game, he was like, Yeah, I saw it in you.

I saw it on your face.

You was about to make a business decision, huh?

You was thinking about giving it.

I was like, Yeah, like that.

It dude, it hurt so bad.

I was like, Oh my god,

I didn't believe grass could feel this

dude.

It was the worst thing ever, man.

So, like,

Thursday,

we're going to go on out here,

pop on them

bungles.

I mean, bangles.

My braces keep

messing me, messing up my words.

Braces mess up when you want them to mess up.

But, but before we do that, oh, it messed up when I wanted to mess up.

Okay.

But before we do that, that's the start of the new week.

Who is your week seeks defensive playout of the week?

Man.

Who you going with?

We're going to go with the newcoming of Von Miller.

The defensive end for the Broncos, number 15.

What'd he get?

What'd he get?

What'd he got?

All I know is I think he had two sacks.

Two sacks?

Two sacks.

He balled out.

And I just liked him because.

I was happy that the Broncos, they used their picks that they got for Von to get him.

And he's just been having a great year.

man i'm gonna go ahead i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with uh

i'm gonna go with devin white linebacker for the

for vegas man dude had nine tackles one sack one force formal and an interception oh man yeah devin white he used to be with uh tampa

yeah i swam that's my good man

let's go team jordan he's a jordan brand athlete

is he a speaking of jordan brand let's get back to that joe i don't know if if y'all noticed.

Joe's supposed to give me some Jordans.

Oh, shucks.

I kept on forgetting what's what's, and you say, hold on, you decide.

14.

See that?

You keep forgetting every time I tell you about it, but I ain't going to say nothing about it.

I'm really looking for some of them,

you know, them.

What is they?

I don't even know what they is.

It's so many Jordans out there.

But anyway, Debo, you too.

It didn't even matter.

I said I just wanted some J.

And I know you the J, man.

This time, Debo, I promise you.

Do I got to go talk to Jordan?

Nope.

You don't even got to talk to him.

I got you.

You got to directly.

I got to go directly to the source.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, size for you.

I thought you was the source.

I could be wrong.

All right.

Look.

Let me tell you who I thought you was.

I thought you was

tap into me offline.

Tap into me offline.

Okay.

I was just checking, man.

I thought you was that, you know, that, you know, that person.

I got you.

You said it.

Anyway, man, look.

we done got to the end here man

so what we're going to do here is uh

what's that right there we got a what we got

super chat

okay debo what are the super chats talking about

i can't

where is that

oh

Little, little, is that little David 6-1 said,

whatever, whatever, whatever, we hurt Jalen Daniels, the rest made, made up for it.

B.S.

Call in Chicago.

What the hell is he talking about?

All right, man, whatever.

Don't know what you're saying.

Yeah,

yeah.

Thanks for watching, buddy.

Hey, listen, we want to thank y'all for joining us.

Yes.

On this episode of the Debo and Joe, on every episode of The Debo and Joe.

Like, we really appreciate y'all.

We need y'all here.

But when you write something that I can't read fluently, that's what you get.

You need to put some punctuation in it.

Hey, make sure you like and subscribe.

Joe, yo,

make sure you like and subscribe, man.

We're going to be back here on Friday to talk about how our Stillers whoop the Bengals.

And so, yeah, we're going to have a detailed message about that.

Let's get to it, Debo.

R, R, and we, and we out.

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