Nightcap Hour 1: VINTAGE Patrick Mahomes BACK in win over Lions + Justin Fields STRUGGLES vs Jets in London + Cowboys hit ROCK BOTTOM + Shedeur NEXT UP in Cleveland?

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Oh, Joe, the Chiefs beat the Lions 30-17 after the game.

Cameras caught Brian Branch refusing to shake

Patrick Mahomes' hand and then shoved Juju shoot

Juju in the face.

To start a brawl, Patrick Mahomes threw for 257 yards, three touchdowns, ran for another score.

Hollywood Brown had his best game as a Chief.

Two touchdowns look more like Mahomes of old.

The Chiefs' offense is starting to get back into gear and starting to look like the Chiefs' offense that we're used to seeing.

When Patrick Mahomes basically started in, what, 2018, 2019, and ran that thing all the way until like 23, this is the offense that we expected to see.

22 of 30, 257, three touchdowns.

They ran the ball 29 times for 112 yards.

Really good.

No turnovers.

It was a clean game from my homeboy.

Ocho, looking at, we'll get into Detroit, talk about them in a minute.

What did you like about what you saw from Knights?

The fact that we've seen the early Chiefs that we all used to love.

We're seeing the Chiefs that scored damn near 28, 30 points a game.

You had receivers, it was by committee.

You never knew who night it was going to be.

So obviously now when you play the Chiefs and you're going in and you're studying, you're going from game to game, you don't know who Knight is going to be.

Tonight it was Hollywood Brown.

Last week,

it might have been Juju.

It might have been Tyquan Thornton.

So the fact that they're also being able to establish the run, to balance the offense out,

to keep everything honest, especially defense, because you don't know what's coming.

That's the great thing for the Chiefs.

And the fact that Patrick Mahomes is playing so well, he played a clean game as well.

Playing a clean game and then being able to play defense on the back end

consistently against a great offense, a great creative offense that again I'm sure that Dan Campbell is responsible for.

It is a really good game.

Obviously, the Chiefs' defense and offense has been up and down, which is something it's been some slippage, something that we talked about early in the season, and where we thought they really weren't going to be the same, especially coming out the gate 0-2.

And look,

we're in week six, uh-huh.

We're in week six, and every yeah, I hear everything looked completely different than the conversations we had just

in the first previous week.

So, I mean, what they've been able to do in such a short amount of time and changing everything around to everybody dropping balls or that they not playing defense like they used to.

We were talking about Chris Jones not not hustling, not having effort, you know, on certain plays.

So looking like they did tonight

is an unbelievable thing.

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, that, like you said,

each week is a different receiver.

Tonight, they really didn't use a whole lot of Twyquan Thornton.

I didn't really see him on the field a whole lot, Ocho.

Tonight, it was all about Juju.

Travis Kelsey had his best game receiving of the year.

Hollywood Brown, we mentioned Hollywood.

Xavier Worthy doing Xavier Worthy, but he didn't get a whole lot of opportunities.

I think if you go back and look at what they've done the past two weeks, is that they've started off throwing the football in order to run the football.

And they stayed in front of the sticks.

This offense is predicated.

As long as we can

stay in third and short, third and manageable, Ocho, now we can run it or we can throw it.

If you go back and look, let's see what they were on

third down.

As long as they were manageable, they were good.

Well, Kansas City was only 4 or 10.

But they knew, even Dan Campbell knew.

Normally at home, when they're clicking, you got to get to 30.

You can't beat this team.

You can't beat this team in Arrowhead Arrowhead if they're playing good football and you don't get to at least 30.

Or you need to take the ball away.

You need to get a scooping score, you know, strip side.

You need to get a tip, a caramel, something.

But if they play a clean game and they're on top of their game, you're going to have to meet fire with fire.

And you saw early on both teams going for it on fourth down because they knew kick and field goals weren't going to win them the game.

Look last started Monday.

They threw the ball early.

Short stuff, get the ball out out of Mahomes' hand.

Let's try to slow this rush down.

And now we can get back to running.

And I thought they did a good job.

I thought Andy did an unbelievable job of play calling tonight, getting the ball out of Mahomes quick, and quick.

And if you notice something, Ocho, and we've seen this, the trans,

the transformation over the last three years.

Mahomboy ain't sitting back there pitch patting the ball.

He'll take off running now.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

The only thing I would say, Mahomboy, sometimes you got to know when the journey over.

Okay, now you keep dropping that shoulder, people.

Now, I'm telling you that people, hey, people go drop, hey, they're going to drop.

That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying.

And you know, quarterbacks don't do a whole lot of a lot of their shoulder work is banged.

They not lifted.

So they don't got that

meet up there like most guys have.

Just be careful.

But I like the way they played tonight.

They did a great job.

I really think the turning point of this ball game, and it wasn't, you know, is that Amon Ross St.

Brown had some of the best hands in football.

But on that fourth down,

I think that was a turn because they had great, they had great rhythm.

They had great momentum.

And you know,

because Ocho,

they were going to get us

at worst case, the Bill Gallery.

Now you get nothing.

Now you get nothing out of that.

And Kansas City get the ball right out of the gate.

But Detroit.

Detroit didn't play bad.

I mean, when you play in Kansas City and they play into the level of that they're playing tonight, they're going to be hard to beat.

Now, it doesn't matter if they're an arrowhead or they don't matter if they're coming to your building.

That is still Patrick Mahomes.

And obviously,

what we saw tonight from the Chiefs is what we've seen consistently from the Lions.

This is what we've seen from the Lions consistently, week in and week,

week in and week out.

Nicholas happens to be one of those weeks where you're playing a team.

Now, you're playing the other 31 teams.

It's not that many teams is going to come out there and put 30 on you.

They ain't too many.

You got the Chiefs.

You got maybe maybe the Packers.

You got maybe the Bucks that have the offense.

The Lions.

Yeah, they have the offense to be able to kind of point you putting up.

We have to meet fire with fire.

We have to take certain chances in certain situations because you know field goals is not going to get it done because this team can score at will throughout the majority of the game.

So, I mean, we have games like this, you want to be as perfect as possible.

And the team that makes the fewest mistakes,

whether it be drops, whether it be interceptions, whether it be turnovers, whatever it may be, the the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally comes out on top, and that's what we saw tonight.

I like that.

I mean, there weren't a whole lot of penalties.

The Chiefs had no penalties.

The Lions only had four for 38 yards.

So this was a fairly clean game.

The refs let them play, which we like to see.

Ocho, we like when refs let them play.

But we got to stop this notion every time the Chiefs win is the refs.

You don't win that many games.

Ain't no way

you can get Travis Kelsey mom.

You can get his dad.

You can get Taylor Swift.

You can get a lot of of people.

Ain't no way you winning just because of the officials.

And I get it.

It happens all the time.

They used to say the same thing with the Patriots.

They used to say this.

And that's what happens when you win a lot.

People have to have the reason.

Well, why they win it instead of like, you know, they got good players.

They got a good system.

They got a good scheme.

They got great coaching.

We have to have a reason why instead of just looking at the product and looking at the players.

See, what has happened over the last years is that people are like, well, they're catching up to Patrick Mahomes.

Well, you're measuring Patrick against his, you're measuring everybody else at their best, but you're measuring him at his worst.

So you telling me if Patrick Mahomes plays his best and another and every other quarterback plays their best, you take that quarterback over my home boy.

Absolutely not.

If every quarterback, all 32 quarterbacks and everybody's healthy, if they played their absolute best, And Patrick Mahomes plays his absolute best, you're not taking another quarterback that's currently playing in the NFL over Patrick Mahomes.

That's how good he's been.

I mean, think about it.

He's been in the starter for eight years and he's never, he doesn't know what it's like not to be in an AFC championship game.

And five of those years, he's been in the Super Bowl.

So when you look at it like that, and I get it, some, Ocho, we get tired.

Man, let's, how many times, Ocho, have you heard, let somebody else win?

How many times have you heard that, Ocho?

I'm tired of it with let somebody else win.

It don't work like that.

When I put that kind of time in, you're going to have to beat me because I'm just not going to stop winning.

Even when you were a kid, Ocho, I ain't finna let you win.

No, you got to beat me.

I'm not going to let you win.

Look, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Lions.

I really don't.

I think their offense is really good.

They

missed a few opportunities, had a couple of drops, but I thought they did really well.

They didn't get, I think they only gave up one sack tonight.

They were not as clean as they normally are.

0 for 2 on fourth down, that's not the Lions.

The Lions are normally three or four on fourth downs.

downs you know because they're going to go for it they're going to put pressure on you you know when you play the lions you got to score points absolutely

because every every possess that they have is really four downs and you don't know now you like to think like damn okay four down but they might fake punch it fake uh fake punt it and you see the play they call but see what they didn't realize is that the quarterback starts up on the center he has to go

so he has to come to a complete stop you know what i was confused on that call as well because most of the time i'm thinking, well, wait a minute.

Now, I see the Dolphins, the other team do the same thing all the time.

Tyreek could come in motion and he never comes to a complete stop.

The ball just snaps.

But I didn't know.

But he didn't start on the field.

I never knew that.

I didn't know that little tickle right there.

So that was

a problem.

It's a lot of little nuances.

It's just like if two people are moving at the same time.

Once you're going to have to, both guys are going to have to come to a complete stop.

Or you're going to have two guys in motion.

And that's what they they got.

You got illegal motion.

But I think, look, this was a great game tonight.

Obviously, I would like to see it a little closer.

I was hoping Detroit could score, maybe get an on-side kick, make it really, really interesting, but give Kansas City, when they needed to bowl their backs, they bowed their backs.

And that's what you want from a great team.

When it's all said and done, Kansas City's going to be there in the end.

Yeah, Ocho.

They get Rashid Rice back this week, Ojo.

He sure is coming.

He sure is coming back.

And the funny thing about it is not only is he coming back, but as well as they played so far without him,

each week they've gotten better and better.

And like I've said, it's by committee.

You don't know which receiver is going to have his day.

I don't like the fact that

Tyquan Thornton has such an intricate part of the offense all these weeks and all of a sudden tonight,

you know,

they know the package of whatever plays they might have had for him, it just wasn't the same.

I hate when they play that game.

I hate that too, because he's played so well and he's gaining confidence and the last thing i want to do is to do something to suppress his confidence because he's looking around like what what did i do this week why i mean why was i not because he scored a touchdown damn near every week he's played oh joe and he's played extremely well big catch after big catch big play after big play uh so it's very very unfortunate hopefully uh

Excuse me, they get into a situation where they get him, where he can come back around and make plays for him again.

Oh, Joe, the game that you witnessed,

i told you

what was gonna happen one thing about it the one thing about it please please don't do that please don't do that y'all don't do that because it didn't it didn't look as good as you did it looked like a woman with no makeup that's the that's what the game it wasn't pretty it wasn't it looked like a woman with no makeup it's nothing to

it was an ugly contest

and y'all still lost you know what i'm saying it was an ugly contest and you lost okay

And I told you what was going to happen.

I told you.

I told you what's going to happen.

I said, oh,

they're going to be on justin fields like lions on a wildebeest i said you watch what i did did you see that hey you was right you were right did you see his stat line at the end of the game i saw his stat line i'm going to go over his stat line he was nine of 17 for 45 passing yards when you take away the sat yards he was minus 10 yards passing that is the that's the fewest pass yards in jets history that's the fewest allowed by a team since 1998 so it's been 27 years since somebody has had a worse passing line than what Justin Fields had today.

They sacked him nine times for minus 55 yards.

They had 82 yards.

Chad, in an NFL game, a team had 82 yards of total offense.

In a 60-minute NFL game,

they were two of 15 on third down.

57 yards of total offense.

No, let me take that back.

They had 82 yards of total offense.

Nine sacks, 15 hits, seven tackles for losses, four passes defended, minus 10 net passing yards.

And I tweeted, Ocho, this is a new low even for the Jets.

82 total yards, 82 effing yards in an NFL game, 2 of 15 on third downs, and allowed nine sacks.

This is the worst offensive performance I've seen in a while.

Not sure if it can be fixed.

This was awful.

And it was.

Ocho.

Ocho.

I don't think I'm breaking news.

I'm going to be honest with you, Ocho.

I don't know how well Justin Fields processes information.

I don't think so.

He freezes.

He freezes.

There were a couple of times, Ocho, he's got to take the flat right now.

Oh, and he's done on something else to develop.

He does.

Yes, I don't know what it is.

Ocho, he's got to get out.

This isn't college.

In the NFL, you must must throw people open.

Guys are not.

Yes, sometimes they'll blow a coverage

and the guy's wide open and you can throw it to them.

But nine, eight and a half times out of 10, you've got to throw guys open in this league.

Guys are just, the guys are too good.

And I just don't know.

And I'm watching the mocho and he freezes a lot of time.

It's like, I'm like, bro.

And I don't know.

I don't know.

And we blamed the Chicago and we said it was an iber flues and we pittsburgh well he didn't get a chance now he has a chance and i don't know what it is but i just know this he's not processing the information as fast as he needs to and to be great at that position you must process information extremely fast because

oh joe it's happening it's one two three Hey, you stay one.

Yeah.

Two.

You got to get out of there.

Most definitely, especially with them not really blocking well for him being sacked nine times a day see from your point of view So you're able to have better context on why it looked the way it did You know sitting Sweet and watching you know live in person is a little different You just see everything happening fast in person don't know why it's happening because there's no replay.

There's nothing.

There's nothing you can watch

That's why I don't like watching games in the stadium because you look for the replay because I want to see yeah, so I really couldn't understand.

I didn't know what is I didn't I didn't know it was as bad as it was once I saw the stat lines at the end of the game.

I saw him obviously running for his life.

I saw there wasn't much they were able to do offensively.

You know, I talked to AG.

I told AG before the game.

I was like, listen, congratulations on everything you're doing.

I hope you guys turn this thing around and getting the boys a playing.

And hey,

I guess this just wasn't the week.

not playing against that goddamn Broncos defense.

And listen, you said what they was going to do.

And they went out there and did everything you said it was going to do.

And

it's almost like the Jets don't even look like an NFL team damn near.

At times they really don't.

I'm like, did y'all practice?

Ain't no way you practice.

Either one of two things, you're not practicing or you're practicing to be just this bad.

Because normally people practice to be good.

You got to practice doing what they're doing.

This is bad.

And I hate it for AG because I know AG personally.

I know him well.

He's a really good dude, but he could not have gotten off to the worst start

because these guys, for whatever reason, whatever they're coaching is not resonating.

It's not getting through to them.

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So how did Ashes come together, Diplo?

Well,

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Yeah, it was really cool.

He literally just like randomly showed up to my house.

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asked about

his sideline exchange with Aaron Glenn at the end of the first half.

Oh Joe, let's take, yes, let's take a listen to what he had to say.

the field?

Is that the way the drive went?

Well, really, like, you know, that stuff like that is just, I don't know, y'all, y'all.

I just didn't know exactly what the plan was.

And

once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed.

I'll just say that.

So,

yeah.

How did you run a play?

Is that what you mean?

Yeah, I didn't know exactly what the plan was.

I just

thought we were, once we, you know, converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going for the, you know, trying to make the play.

And then obviously we get to another fourth down, and it's a tough spot to be in.

So,

you know, in hindsight, I get why they did that.

But in the moment, I was just like, man,

I don't know.

Yeah.

He's speaking Pacifics, huh?

He's speaking Pacifics.

Yes, I don't know.

I didn't know what they was doing.

I was like, y'all just going to let the time run out.

Ain't nobody, you're not going to want to play.

You're not going to want to play.

I was thinking about the park management as well.

And I'm like, well, why the heck?

Why are they letting the clock go all the way down?

Let's try to to do something.

Let's do something.

But obviously, you know, he's frustrated.

He's frustrated.

He should be.

The guy was home.

The guy had been, he was offensive rookie of the year with some very marginal quarterbacks.

And

allegedly, supposedly, they had supposed to have gotten better quarterbacks.

But his stats aren't indicative of that.

So he's frustrated by that.

Second of all, when you do what they did it tells me you don't trust your quarterback yeah oh you don't that's the only reason you would do something like that because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that same amount of time try to run plays and if we got time we're gonna call we're gonna use our timeouts or we're gonna cheat uh help the guys uh uh hope the guys can get out of bounds but when you just let that amount of time just run off the clock

out of the way in hell, you cannot convince me that you love the quarterback.

You don't because that's the only reason you do a time like that.

We can't put our team, we can't put our quarterback because in decision-making, it's not where it needs to be.

To be able to put him in situations that might not be advantageous for him because he might make the wrong decision with the ball.

We can't trust him

to make matters worse.

Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments, and he'll have an MII upon returning to New Jersey.

Ocho, look,

um, and when he did, and he was late with the ball, he was all over the place.

He had him on the out, and he throws it behind him.

He had another guy who would have had the first down, and he ends up hurting his back.

And so, the fourth down, they don't even have Garrett Wilson in the ball game.

I'm like,

whatever could go wrong went wrong today for them.

It went wrong with Ocho.

Even the best defense attorney

struck you at some point in time,

we don't have a winnable case

At some point in time,

and it's coming sooner rather than later.

Hey,

I don't know how much further

I can stick my neck out for Justin Fields.

I don't know, Ocho.

I don't know.

In order to have a chance, Uncle, in this league, it's 32 teams.

In order to have a chance, I don't care who's coaching.

I don't care what you have on the offensive line.

I don't care what you have at that receiver.

I don't care what you have on defense.

In order to have a chance in today's era of football, you got to have a quarterback.

He doesn't have to be the fastest.

He doesn't have to have the best arm.

He just has to be consistent in his decision making.

He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills and being able to play the position, being able to process information in front of him, and being able to do exactly what you ask of him to make sure that offense goes, whatever that may be.

Whatever it may be.

I thought this would be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs that he showed with the Steelers last year and

into a winning record until Russell Wilson was given a job by Mike Tomlin.

I'm like, you know what?

If Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's going to be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance and what he could do when he's quarterback number one.

Now you're quarterback number one.

You ain't got nobody to worry about.

You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder.

So you can actually play free.

You can, you can play free.

Yes, based on the play calls and some of the things that

they were doing, it's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that they have because they're not the play calling isn't free.

We have to protect our quarterback from himself.

So, you know what?

We're going to have, we're going to let the clock run out because we don't even want to put him in the situation where he has to make certain decisions because it can go wrong.

You're right.

It's bad it's bad and i know and and a g's like wants to show support but i don't know how much longer

that because at the end of the day ojo you got 50 other guys in that locker room now and i understand the loyalty that you want to have for your quarterback and you want to show support but you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed to the other guys because they'll look like and they know Ocho, you've been in locker rooms for a long time.

I've been in locker rooms.

Yeah.

And maybe Tyrod, maybe it's time to maybe you give it a couple of more games.

You're like, well, hey, Justin, I'm sorry.

We're going to have to let Tyrod have a go at this.

See if

he can get some things going.

Because

this is terrible.

Now, look, the Broncos' defense is really, really good.

That front seven, oh, they get after quarterback.

And if you think about it, they're rotational.

A botino bonito and Cooper, they'll go a series.

And then the next, they got a whole different set of lineup.

And they, hey, they got that, they got a

NASCAR package that they just keep rotating them, and they keep coming.

They collapse you from the outside, and then you got big Allen collapse in the middle.

So,

and they're going to run you into somebody.

If you run wide, Coop got you.

If you run to the other side, Bonito got you.

You try to step up in the pocket, you got Allen collapsing the pocket.

So, they're really good.

Don't get me wrong.

Now, that's not a slouch defense.

And Passertain is legit.

He is legit.

He is hands down the best player.

football.

Absolutely.

Hey, he is smooth, man.

He is so smooth the way he can transition.

And he's long.

Hey, his arm like this long.

And so he doesn't have to be that close to do this or to do this.

Yeah, he's really good.

We exchange.

He's so fluid.

I mean, for someone to be as tall as he is and to be as fluid through the hips as he is, because, bro, he backpedal and get out of there in a hurry and he can whip his hips and go.

But, Ocho,

being raised on a farm, I was in 4-H,

went to county fairs, went to a goat show, a cow show, and I seen it, and I've been to the circus.

I ain't never seen no ish like what I saw with the jets today.

You done been around a lot of football, too.

You ain't seen nothing like you.

I have.

But today, today,

this, today, I'm talking about like, look, and I've been on, I'm like, damn.

I'm trying to think.

I think maybe one other time that I've actually been around it, I saw the hell out of the part of it.

It had to be the Reagan.

I think you got to go back to 92.

And the Eagles, the Eagles beat us.

I think they beat us 30 to nothing.

I don't know if we had 50 yards of total offense.

Yeah.

No.

The Eagles.

No, I was with the Broncos.

Yeah.

But that was, that was, so that was, what, 33 years ago?

And you got to think about it, Ocho.

They said the last time somebody had that few yards in a passing game, that was 98.

That was 27 years ago.

So you're talking about almost three decades.

This doesn't happen often.

So people, I don't want you to think that, oh man, that could happen.

No.

This does not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered for the quarterback and the receivers because you can't punish the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers.

So with that being said, to get a performance like what they got today, Ocho, 82 yards of total offense.

Listen, that's a testament to how good that defense actually is.

Even with them being handicapped because of the rules, that's just how good they are.

And how bad the opposing team was.

That too.

Hey, listen, two things can be true.

And you, and you

they absolutely can be true.

Um, but I don't, I don't know where the Jets go.

I do know.

I do know they take their ass home.

And

that's a long ass flight to take an ass whip.

And you sold.

Do you even watch film?

or do you?

Hell no, I ain't showing that.

I was going to say.

I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffer.

Whoever the hell that is.

I'm burying that tape.

Ain't nobody going to see that.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to sue NFL Films if they show it.

You better be glad that they got like, remember they used to have inside the NFL Locho and they have the Thursday night they have the game.

Well, you was on, yeah, and they show highlights from the game.

Nah, don't y'all show that.

don't y'all show it a default uh but but this was this was bad this was bad um and and and you can lose you can lose you can lose a locker room if you're not sure if there's one thing about losing the locker room and a coach having to make a very tough decision you know for a quarterback for a quarterback that you you consider you're number one a quarterback that that that's been paid

is the backup is the backup the answer because once you once you make a move in the middle of a season like this we're only in week six.

Once you make a move like this, you're making a move.

I think they give them a couple more weeks, Ocho.

But if they don't turn this thing around, I can see a situation.

Ocho, if we owe

an eight, oh and nine, oh and ten.

So what?

We try to, I mean, what are we trying to do?

Because I already know a team and another team that's in the Midwest that's trying to get the number one pick.

That's Cleveland.

And we'll talk about them in a minute.

So are the Jets trying to get the number one pick?

Because if you're trying to get the number one pick, it's the state of the course.

I see where you're going.

Because that quarterback that you're bringing in, the Tyrods is going to try to win games.

I'm just telling you, and I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't.

So you just tell, just tell me what to do.

Because here's the thing: these other guys in the locker room, they don't care that you're trying to build for the future.

I ain't trying to get my head split right now while you build it for the future.

Damn your future.

My future is right now because I might not even be here when we get good.

Yeah, which is true.

Which is true.

And

they're going to be some heads rolling now.

There's going to be some attitudes.

There are going to be some frustrations, especially from five.

You know, Garrett Wilson ain't going to go for that.

Garrett Wilson is not going to go for that.

You paid me like the receiver that I am.

Please use me as such.

Please use me as such.

Ocho, last week, Rico Didel ran for over 200 yards.

He knew the Cowboy was on the schedule.

They asked him.

He said, tell them to buckle up.

They didn't buckle up.

The Cowboys beat the Panthers.

Excuse me.

The Panthers beat the Cowboys by the score of 30 to 27.

Another game in which the Cowboys' defense were exposed.

Brian Schottenheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus.

The Cowboys allowed 216 rushing yards a season high, led by former Cowboy Rico Dallo, who had 183 yards on 30 carries.

It marked the fourth time the Cowboys have allowed at least 144 yards rushing this season.

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Dak is playing well.

But Dak is under the same situation that your quarterback was under last year.

Because his defense is so putrid, if he punts the ball, when he gets it back,

if he had a lead, they're either going to be tied or they're going to be closer than they were when he punted the ball.

Because his defense can't stop anybody.

That defense is atrocious.

Now, they keep blaming.

I don't know what it is.

They fired Mike Nolan.

They said it was Mike Nolan.

Now, some of those players were still there when Mike Nolan was there.

They had

Zim.

It was him.

He wasn't no good.

They got Mike Irbaflus.

So they've had three or four different coordinators.

And a lot of those same players that were there are still there.

Now, I want to know, OJo, at some point in time, we got to start holding your players accountable because we quick to blame

that coach, that coordinator, that this, that, that.

It's a coach,

it's the scheme, but it's never, it's never the players, which is why I'm tired of hearing that.

I'm trying to hear, I'm tired of hearing that, especially out of the 5-1-3 all the time.

But we'll get to that game in a minute.

But I said this before the season started, huh?

People laughed at me when I said

my surprise team.

I had two.

I had two.

One of them was the Bears, and the other one was the Carolina Panthers.

I told them, I want you to watch out for the Panthers.

I want to

watch out for Bryce Young.

Watch out for the defense, and watch out for the

receivers.

And what are they doing?

You saw what they did to the Panthers.

I mean, excuse me, you saw what they did to the Atlanta Falcons not long ago.

You saw what they did today.

Young Bull, Young Bull.

I don't want to butcher his last name.

Running back.

Do how you say it the right way,

people say Doddell, but I think they say, I think it's Doddell.

Daddy or Daddell?

I've heard it both ways.

I don't listen to the broadcast, so chat, y'all have to have to tell me how to say it.

Ask you on the broadcast, how do they say it?

Do they say Donnell Donnell or they say Doddle?

You know, people don't play by their last name now.

Yeah.

Hey, but listen, boy, he was on a mission.

He was on a mission.

It wasn't nothing cute about him today.

Listen, you know, Rico, Rico Suave.

You know, Rico's going to be cute.

It wasn't nothing cute about Rico today.

He told y'all, oh, Joe, this man called his shot.

This man said he was going to do.

Do you know how difficult that is to call your shot in the middle of the week before the game and tell people to buckle up and then actually go out there and do exactly what you're going to do, which is the reason why you said you need to buckle up

on the ground, catching in the air?

Man, man,

Dowdell was all over the place.

Dowdle.

Oh, Dowdo, yeah.

Dowdle.

Yeah, yeah.

Dowdle, but uh, I thought that, but I was like, hey, they say Dowdell, hey.

But oh Joe.

at some point,

at some point,

Jerry has to understand

his defense is built.

They're undersized.

When you have an undersized defense, what does that mean, Ocho?

You're built to play with a lead

because you want to eliminate the run game because you're 14, 17 points up.

They're not going to run it.

Now you use those underside guys to stream up, the stream upfield.

Okay, what happens when you got to sit your light ass in there and catch?

They ain't got nobody to light it up.

All I heard was, Jerry, I'm very disappointed in you.

Because everybody was

yakking.

You win a game, you yakking.

You had a tieball game, and they couldn't get him out the podium.

Hell, they thought it was a ring master.

Hey, Red, hurry, red, hurry, red, step right up.

Now, Carolina put foots in your butt.

Now

Jared didn't speak to the media.

Why not?

Because they

absolutely not.

Yeah, exactly.

Front running.

Now, oh, oh, hold up.

You remember a couple of, you remember,

what was it, last week?

And then,

you know, you remember that, Ocho?

You see what I'm talking about?

Now look at it.

Everything that went wrong.

Well, you know, Michael wasn't good against the run.

Okay, Micah gone.

What's your problem now?

Well, we didn't go that far when we had Michael.

Okay, how far are you going to go without him now?

Because you're two, three, and one.

Hey.

Listen,

if they're going to have a shot, now I know we didn't get to it yet, but offensively, we'll get to that in a minute.

But boy, that boy, Dak, boy, he's earning every bit of that 60.

He earning every bit of that 60 or whatever it is.

Empty calories, Ocho.

Empty calories.

If you go, if you say, you know what, if you say, man, you know what?

I'm gonna get in shape.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna get in shape.

I'm gonna eat healthy.

Bro, you go eat Twinkies and whole hoes.

All them is empty calories.

They don't do nothing for you.

They satisfy your craving, but they add absolutely no nutrition.

That's what those stats are.

You gotta understand.

Listen, I'm doing my job.

I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

This is a team game, right?

So I do.

Yeah, you're supposed to weaken.

Yeah, that too.

But to give,

I need y'all to stop something over here.

I need y'all to stop something over here.

I will say to his credit, though, Ocho, he hasn't turned up.

No, no, no.

He's playing clean.

He's playing.

So I will concede, but it's hard because he knows he has to be perfect.

Because my team is not going to stop anybody.

Right now, right, hey, right now, we can't stop a parked car.

We already, so you know that going into the ball game.

I already know what I'm up against.

That's secondary.

Look,

you can't stop a what?

I don't know if Diggs, I don't know if Diggs is still hurt.

He's still, he's not the same.

Diggs don't even look the same to me.

I know Diggs Diggs better than this.

I don't know if that injury, if he's 100% recovered, because I know he's, you know, you know, they find him 500,000 because he wasn't around or whatever's going on.

But he does, look, he was always a cluer.

He was always a guesser

and and and look now he got in he got incredible hands he get his hands on the ball he coming down most of the times when he does guess he guess in the right way because he knows what's coming because

he didn't look the same he didn't look the same today

he ain't looked the same in a while

he ain't looked the same in a while and

And the defense, and because, look, they got those guys, and like I said, teams just going to run the ball.

And now, when you run the ball, you're going to have to drop the safety down, and now you don't really have no help over the top at all.

I mean, if they ran the ball 38 times for 216,

think of it, you dead last in total yards, you like 24th in rush yards allowed, you probably dead last the points.

Where are they in points allowed?

Because they gave up 40 to the Packers, they gave up 30 today,

they gave up what 24.

They've probably averaged giving up 24.

They're close to the bottom, they're then they 28 through 32 in points of line.

Don't be this, nobody should be surprised.

If you're

in the chat tonight, I'm sure you're a faithful fan.

You've been and you've been watching for a very long time.

I told you before the season started,

I told you about the Panthers.

Everybody laughed at me outside of Panthers fans.

Everybody laughed at me.

Oh, oh, Joe, man, they sorry.

They this, they that.

I told you, you know, and I kept

remind you again.

Keep counting, bitch.

All right.

But see, here's the problem that I have.

You see,

at some point in time now, you're going to have to, like,

when you get the ball, you're going to have to keep putting points on the board.

You can't be content when you got a lead.

They punt the ball, you got to go get points again because you know that was an anomaly that your defense stopped them.

What's the likelihood your defense is going to pitch a shut out in the second half?

I happen.

They gave up 10 10 points in the fourth quarter

more times than not yeah they scored three in the fourth quarter so they scored 10 and they uh uh gave up 17.

yeah

bryce young 17 to 20 17 to 25 a buck 99 three touchdowns one pick

sack uh

one time for five yards 38 carries 216 yards

George Pickens playing his ass off.

Well, you see, wait, remember what we talked about?

Remember, I told you you weren't going to have any issues out of

anything.

I told you that conversation.

George, I know you're going to see this, boy.

I love you.

But I love you.

I told you.

It's okay.

It's okay.

This is why your team is 2-3 and 1.

The Cowboys, dead last in total D.

Dead last in pass D.

Dead last in third down percentage.

Second to the worst points allowed, averaging 30.7 points a game.

Wait, offensively,

I'm sure they're higher, they're way higher than that.

Yeah, you ain't overcoming that.

You can't because you, you, you

because think about what you got to think about it, Ocho.

In order for you to have, they giving up 30.7.

So, in that order for you to be winning, that means you got to score 30.8 a game.

That's very difficult.

Very difficult.

They got the second best offense, Ocho.

Fourth in points.

Fourth in points.

29.7.

So you give up one more.

Yeah.

Ocho.

See?

Man, we were close.

All I need to do is score one more point to you.

And that's what they average.

Guess what?

They score 29.7.

They give up 30.7.

So guess what?

If you score 29, I score 30, who wins?

You know what?

That situation right there, to give people a better perspective, to give people better context.

It sounds like another team, when my quarterback is healthy, we go through that same issue.

Because

we scoring 30 a game when everybody is healthy.

Shoot, the other team's scoring 32.

We score 40, they score 50.

You can't win for Louis.

Yeah, well, you saw it last year.

Y'all scored 38.

Y'all lose 41, 38.

Y'all scored 35, they scored 38.

Well, Jerry said, Michael was the problem.

Jerry said, I don't know.

Well, Jerry didn't say, Jerry did, Jerry didn't say anything today.

I want to know, see, front running.

Now, see, all that, you all out the window in the owner's box.

You all out.

Oh, we just having a good time.

We have, you know, the cowboy fans, we travel to cowboy fans.

We just having a good old time.

I ain't see.

Hey.

This is what you saw up there.

This is what you saw today, Ocho.

And the funny.

You like the skills

of school kids when it's raining outside and you ain't got no reference.

You got to sit there and look out the window.

You know, something like this, how do you fix it?

How do you fix that though?

This is just not a one-player issue defensively.

This is not a one-player issue.

You got to get better players.

You got to get better players.

The NFL

and it's hard to get them now because you got what you got.

But you have a team, you have a team that's built on playing with the lead.

Well, if you can't get the lead, Ocho, you can't just turn them loose.

Because if you just run your ass up the field, they're going to just run where you will left.

So you catch it.

They too small.

They ain't got no bricks in the back pocket.

You can't drop anchor with them little light ass guys they got up there.

Man, they got guys back pocket shaking hands.

They so small in that.

As a matter of fact, you know what?

I'm thinking about it.

If I was Jerry, now listen, I'm putting my owner's hat on.

I'm putting my owner's hat.

I need to get someone to anchor that front, someone that I could build around, and he could be that centerpiece for me.

Jerry don't care about winning, Ocho.

We've been determined that the Ocho don't, Jerry don't care about winning.

I'm just hypothetically talking.

Hey, Chad, tell me what you think.

Right now,

Tennessee Titans, I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons to anchor my defense and

build from there out, build from the inside out to start over.

What you think?

I'm going to get

George Pickens gonna want a lot of money.

George Pickens gonna want at least DK money.

And he's gonna get DK dk money because let me show you let me see what's let me show you what's gonna happen or what can happen with cee d lamb who's considered the top five quarter i'm top quarterback who's considered a top five receiver when we talk about receiving when he goes out let me show you what i can do i can pick up right where you left let me show you what i can do if i get the opportunities that i deserve that i should have got when i was in you know where i'm not gonna bring i'm not gonna bring them up yeah but i can do i can do the same thing i can put up number two i can take you deep or i can take a slant to the house man stop playing with me.

This is what I do.

Hey, if he gets his hands on the ball and he faced your ass up,

good luck getting his ass on the ground.

He reminds you of a smaller version of T.O.

You remember how T.O.

ran A.

If T.O.

got the ball in his hands and he faced you up,

You not

you right here in front of him not getting him on the ground.

You better hope that hey, I'm gonna hey come on which way you go.

I'm gonna try to hold him out.

Come on man.

Damn.

I can't hold him here forever.

You breathe.

Help.

Come on.

Shit.

What the hell?

Man.

And that's how y'all, that's what they have to do with Pick.

If he gets the ball in his hands and he turns around and square your ass up.

And then you know what's funny?

He's faster than he look.

because ain't nobody catching him from the back.

He plays fast.

He might not be.

He might have not, I I don't even know what he ran.

He might have ran four, Ocho, but there are guys that might not run fast, but play fast.

That's Jerry.

Jerry didn't run fast, but he played fast.

Emmett didn't run fast, but he played fast.

He has what they call functional speed.

He has football speed.

You get him out there to test.

But boy,

man,

that's what I told you before the season started.

They wouldn't have

you did.

I'm glad because I'm like, bro, you got to man, make this money, bro.

You got it.

You got an opportunity to make $200 million to set your family up for generations and generations.

I mean, there might be a George Pickers IV

to say, my great-great-granddad

put me and put me and put this family in position.

Bro, don't waste that.

Don't mess up your money with some foolishness.

The best thing to happen, he needed to get out of Pittsburgh.

He needed a change of scenery.

And sometimes that's what it takes, Ocho.

Sometimes it takes a change of scenery.

Sometimes it takes somebody, him or her, to get into a new relationship in order for them to be their very best.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And I'm glad for him.

But again, I know.

I'm happy.

But the Cowboys,

I know it wasn't.

But Jerry don't care about winning, Ocho.

We've decided this.

You and I, we talked about this for years.

Jerry cared more about money.

Yeah,

we understand that too, but I'm thinking from a defense perspective, with them being the deadlines in every category and every statistic and every metric and every standard when it comes to football.

Week six, November's coming up, deadline.

You never know if you were to make some type of

hasty move.

I would love to see them.

It probably won't happen.

I'm just thinking as I'm putting my GM hat on.

I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons.

You know, quality.

Top three defensive tackle in the NFL right now to this day.

Boom.

I'm putting you right there.

I'm going to build around you.

I'm going to build around you.

Yeah.

That's just me.

Chat.

What y'all think, Chad?

I know y'all

linebackers aren't very good, Ocho.

Their linebackers are not very good.

They ain't nothing.

They ain't got no plug.

I mean, look, Sam Williams, they got guys try to rush off the edge, but I'm talking about like a Mike backer.

Hold on, understand.

Let me tell you something.

You You might not like what they have right now because what that backer had that Mike Backer had in front of him is light in the ass.

Now, what happened if you go get that Big 98 from goddamn over there in Tennessee and you get to be you get you get that you get to be able to roam free?

Why I want to get why I want to give him up to you.

What you gonna give me?

Huh?

Wasn't the first round picks that you got from the Packers?

Maybe.

We could.

Hey, listen, if I, if we, Jerry, we can we can negotiate.

We could,

but Jerry don't like that, Ocho.

he don't he don't want to give up he likes jerry likes to develop players so jerry jerry jerry has gotten burned uh uh in free agency and so he's like he's done with it he's he's done with it he's not gonna he's gonna get guys that he go get the jadavian clowny and and and and clowny had but clowny is he he's not gonna he's not gonna move them he's not gonna move the needle he's not the clowny of old

No, no, no, no.

And we had that discussion.

We don't think he ever lived up to what we thought he was going to be.

He was in the draft with Khalil Mack.

Khalil Mack turned out to be the better player.

That's what, what, what,

what Khalil Mack is, that's what we thought Jadavian Clowney was going to be.

Based on what we saw in college,

you probably got to go back to an Indomicon Su to find a guy that raved hell.

Now,

the dominated like Jadavian Clowney did his sophomore year.

His junior year, he was just trying not to get hurt.

So he didn't play like he did his sophomore year.

But go back and look at Indoma Kim Sue last year.

He was like, okay, that's the best player in the country.

Now, I forget who won the Heisman trophy that year.

Sam, I think, was it Sam Bradford?

Sam Bradford won.

That was the best.

And Dominic Sue was the best player in the country that year.

That's what we thought Jadavian Klein was going to be.

But we'll see what Jerry's going to do right now.

I mean, it would have been lovely to hear from him, but

unfortunately, we did not hear from him, Ocho.

But a team that we did hear from today, Aaron Rodgers threw two TDs as the Steelers continued their home dominance over the Browns by the score of 23 to 9.

Steelers,

seemingly, OJO, on cruise control.

They're 4-1 in the division.

Cleveland, 1-5.

Baltimore, 1-5.

I think 1-5.

Cincinnati has lost, what, fourth straight?

So now they're and four.

Pittsburgh division to lose.

Yeah, absolutely.

And honestly,

I don't see him losing it.

And

I can say this.

As much as I love my Bengals, I don't see him losing it.

Now, I saw

something nice we'll talk about later when we get to the Bengals.

But goddamn, Aaron Rodgers got them boys playing on all cylinders.

Especially on offense, playing on all cylinders.

As good as that defense is over in Pittsburgh, with the names that they do have, once they start gelling and playing that good football the right way, that know we know the way we know they can play, they're going to be fine.

As long as Aaron Rodgers is playing like Aaron Rodgers is playing now, they always going to be in contention and they're going to be hard to beat.

Forget right now, I ain't talking about week six.

I'm talking about when real football starts at the Thanksgiving, getting into the postseason when it's cold and you got to go over there.

It ain't called Heinz Field no more, huh?

I vake it down

when you got to take your Heinz Field.

I know.

Well, you ain't gonna be able to throw the ball 50 times a game.

You're gonna have to put it on the ground.

And you got Cam Hayward, you got goddamn TJ Walk coming off that goddamn end.

And

I forgot young bull name.

Was it Smith?

56, 56.

He

got through.

Oh, man, stop playing, man.

Yeah, he's nice now.

Then the back end really ain't got no weakness.

Now, I know.

Oh, Joe, it's called

Across Shore Stadium.

No, no longer Heinz Field, Across your Stadium.

Across your

face.

I tell you what, and I mean no disrespect to Akushure.

I like to say Heinz Field because that's where I played at.

That resonated.

I played the Heinz Field and I played the Three Rivers.

The old Three Rivers.

They had the carpet.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And the stadium would be bouncing.

I mean,

you can literally see it.

It's bouncing up and down.

It started rocking but

the browns offense failed to eclipse 17 points for the 11th straight game dylan gabriel uh 29 of 52 221 yards six sacks six times

how do you

so you mean to tell me your guy you're gonna let your guy in his second start you gonna let him throw the ball 52 times against that defense on the run it's hard to run on the steelers huh

It's hard to run on the Steelers.

So the other, the only other viable option is you got to throw it.

And when you think about Dylan Gabriel, when you watch him in the games where he's had success, anything outside inside the numbers, inside the hashes, he's really good.

It's nothing really long.

You know, sometimes you get some short digs, some digs.

Yeah.

If you know that, guess who else knows that?

That he's good inside the numbers on short stuff.

Yeah,

exactly.

Yeah.

That's what, thank you.

Oh, think about it.

You threw the ball 52 times and you only had 221 yards.

Hey,

you missed 23 attempts.

Bro,

Cleveland, if y'all try to get the number one pick, just say that.

Whoa, no, they're not.

No, no, no.

They want the number one pick for what?

They get what quarterback?

Because there ain't nothing we've done seen on Saturday that's willing to wait for.

Absolutely not.

No, they don't.

I guess they want that

pass rushing

number six from Miami and pair him with Miles Garrett.

I don't know.

Maybe trade it for some more players.

I like you.

I see what you're going.

I like what you think.

I like what you're putting up.

Hey.

Miles Garrett said losing the same way is frustrating.

Miles, guess what you signed up for?

You took the money.

I ain't got no problem with that.

Oh, Joe.

I have no problem with that.

But Miles Garrett knew they were not going to win.

They really haven't won since he's been been there they've gotten worse so you can't say it gets old when you took the money you said you wanted a chance to win they dangled 40 million dollars per year gave you 100 plus 100 500 10 million fully guaranteed you took the money so now you can't complain because you knew

what made you trust them that they were going to be able to do something in one to two years they haven't been able to do in your tenure since you've been there.

You talking, but you know, you know, that wasn't it.

You, you know, you know, you know, why there was no guaranteed money left.

So I got.

I know, I know.

That's what I said.

Say, look, he ain't got no guaranteed money.

He won't guarantee money.

He's going to say, I won't out.

Really, he won't guarantee money.

I get that.

Ocho, I get it.

I do.

And chat, I don't want y'all to think I don't understand, but don't complain when you said you said you wanted a chance to win.

You said you wanted to compete.

You knew, with the exception of that one year, you guys haven't been able to compete.

And you trust this organization to

build pieces around you and do the right thing by getting a quarterback.

You trusted them.

And they already hope they have a bad history at that specific position.

The one position you need to be able to compete.

To be able to contend.

The identity for the Cleveland Browns has always always been their defense.

It always has been.

The hard part has been finding a quarterback that is good, not great, just good enough to consistently not only keep you in games

but win games when you're in certain situations, especially games that are close.

You just haven't, you can go through a string of maybe four weeks, five weeks of really good.

I'm talking about consistently throughout a season, right?

Especially when it matters most.

You haven't been able to find that.

No.

And

I'm supposed to trust you that you're going to find that.

But what he's finding out, Ocho, is that money really can't buy happiness when you are a competitor and you want to win and to go out there and beat, yeah, guess what?

That direct deposit is going to hit every Monday or if you get paid on the 1st and 15th, that deposit is going to hit.

But them losses, they hurt.

I guarantee you, when you out there taking that L, I ain't, I have never one time like, man, that check gonna be in my that check gonna be no, I'm going to get my check, so I ain't, I just got direct deposit in 2016.

But anyway, I never thought that they, I'm gonna go upstairs tomorrow and get that paycheck.

I didn't think about that.

We don't

know, we don't.

When the L's started to add up, oh, you're I've been lose, lost six games in a row, seven games in a row.

Man, please, you out there practicing, and then guess what?

Guess what's about to happen, Ocho?

Tell them what's gonna happen in Cleveland.

That temperature about to drop.

It's going to get cold.

And guess what?

You get cold.

Now you out there practicing in the 20 degrees.

And then come Sunday, you practice, you playing in 20 degrees, 15, 10, and you catch an L after L after L after L.

Yeah.

Ocho.

Dylan Gabriel completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today.

He threw the ball 52 times.

But

Kevin Stafansky kept him in the game for the entire

they they they don't they don't you see how they protect Justin Fields when it when they're going to the end of the half because of the decision making we don't know what he's gonna do with the ball so how do you hide the quarterback weaknesses whatever weaknesses he may have that we can't see now you and I know

he can't throw outside the numbers

he can't he can't be on the left hash and throw an 18-yard comeback on the right side of

oh hell no type of quarterback he is it will come back the other way for a touchdown

so you have to call plays that are predicated to his strengths his strengths are throwing intermediate and short routes so therefore you call plays based on what he's able to do extremely well now that's no knock on him that's no knock on him so what we ask of you that's all what we're asking of you based on what you can do well for us offensively that's what we're going to do because that's what you provide for us as a quarterback now that limits your playbook, it limits what you can call for sure, limits some of the things you like to do as opposed to other quarterbacks to have the arm strength or

the prowess to be able to open up the playbook and do and do more.

That's what you have to do.

So, I mean, I didn't want to say it like that.

I thought everyone else could see that and understood that, especially when you watch them play some of the some of the players at the call.

Now, some frustrations might arise with maybe Jerry Judy, who I think.

Jerry Judy had 13 targets, caught five passes.

Fannin Jr.

had 10 targets, caught seven.

And Joku had six, caught three.

Damn.

Oh, Joe, I had more DK, four catches.

Man,

he had a goal ball, and Roger and the wind caught it.

It brought it back.

I mean,

he was like five yards in front of the goal.

Hold on.

Wait,

he caught one deep ball on that.

That stuff.

He caught a deep ball.

That was later.

But he ended up, but he had one.

That'd have been a touch.

That was a show enough touchdown.

And Rogers put it up.

And I guess the win caught it because Rogers, he turned around and looked up like, damn.

I didn't know it was like that.

But

I.

I don't know what Cleveland's doing.

I don't know if

they're trying to get the number one one pick.

Because they're going to have to fight the gyms.

There's nothing out there.

This is no knock.

And chat, y'all know, because y'all watch college football.

There is nothing out there that is glaring where it's like, where teams are clamoring for those who are in situations like the Browns or let's say like the Cowboys defensively, where, you know what, we got to have him.

We got to have him.

Yeah.

So we're going to do what's necessary to make sure we're in position to be able to get him.

It's nobody like that right now.

It's nobody popping out on film.

It might be some offensive tackle or some defensive tackles that we don't know about, but the skill position, the quarterbacks.

Oh.

They need to go get that Cowboys.

They need to trade the two draft picks they got this year

and to go up there and get that guy from Miami, Bain Jr.

Hey, Bane, nice.

You need a hellraiser like that.

Those are the type of guys that change your future, that change your fortunes.

That's what they need.

He's nice.

Bane is nice.

Hell yeah.

But

I don't like Dylan Gabriel Thornton, letting Dylan Gabriel throw the ball 52 times.

Bro, he threw four passes that had 10 yards of air distance.

He completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today.

So everything is checked down.

He's dinking and dunking or checking it down.

Now, you know, Dinkin and Duncan can work.

It can work depending on the...

You can be efficient digging the duncan but at some point once the boys say you know what we coming up

we can we go

you got to be able to put the ball over the head though at some point in time you got to put a man you got to put you got to put somebody on fear you got to put fear you got to put fear you got to put oh joe if i don't feel bro i'm i'm sitting on everything

when i used to play the raiders and the chiefs you had to throw

in the in the first 10 plays you had to throw a gold ball or them mofos gonna sit right there

on everything.

When you played the Raiders, when you played, had a T-Mac and they had Albert Lewis, or we went over there and they had Dale Carter in Kansas City, and they had a

what's I forget the guy's name, Lord.

Have mercy.

If you did not move them, if you did not throw a gold ball, even if it is a look, we ain't trying to complete it, but you got to put fear on them because boy, they ain't moving.

They're not moving,

man.

first of all, y'all, we know y'all are not going to throw it deep.

You know why we know y'all not going to throw it deep?

Because we know y'all don't have a really offensive line that can hold up to throw it deep.

And then, second of all, if you do throw it deep, guess what, Ocho?

You ain't right no running game.

So, what am I stepping up to stop and run for?

So, with that being said, now we're squatting on everything.

Prove to me I'm wrong.

Hey,

Junkins, Junkins is hurt.

He had 12 carries for 36 yards.

He might have got hurt in the game.

I was back and forth.

Man,

it's hard for me to stay interested in that right there, Ocho.

It's hard.

You know, I watched the series and I was like, bro, bro, what is this?

Yeah,

I thought they would have leaned on him a little bit more.

So I thought, well, maybe he's hurt.

Maybe something's wrong with him.

But if your quarterback isn't

as good, or you're not able to do some of the things you want to do to make sure you're able to be competitive, you want to hide him by running the ball a little bit more.

You want to put that load and that onus

on your running back to be able to get things going or to make it easier.

Forget balance.

You got to be a run.

You got to be a run-heavy team first.

You got to be.

I ain't trying to do no balance.

You ain't got no balance for that right there.

I mean, Jalen Ramsey had two sacks.

Jalen Ramsey said, Jalen Ramsey said, I'm going to try to get me 10 sacks of a corner.

Hebrew

had

two sacks.

High Smith had a half a sack.

TJ had a half a sack.

So they had six sacks, soldiers, six tack, six sacks total.

But I don't know what Cleveland's trying to do, but whatever it is.

You know what?

It's almost unfair.

It's almost unfair to have to judge Gabriel against that damn defense.

It's almost unfair.

I know it's your division opponent, but hell, it ain't that many people that look good against the goddamn Steelers.

And the quarterbacks that do,

you know, they're in conversations of the epa echelon with quarterbacks when it comes to being able to dismantle that damn defense.

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