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all right, guys.

We're going to get into it.

Russell Wilson, he clapped back at his former coach, John Payton, after post-game comments, praising Jackson Dart.

Yeah, let's take a listen to what Payton had to say.

You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback.

Um,

I was talking to John Merron not too long ago, and I said we were hoping that that change would have happened long after our game.

Russ tweeted back, classless, but not surprised.

Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting bounty hunting 15 plus years

through the media.

Let's ride.

Now, Sean Payton later

responded today that he was just talking about, you know, he was praising Jackson Dart.

Now, he mentioned that he had talked to John Mara several weeks earlier before they even played, before they had even made this switch.

God, y'all know I'm Bronco through and through, like Sean Payton.

I know Sean Payton.

Um, we had a very, very close mutual friend, Mike Ornstein.

Mike Ornstein passed away.

Rest in peace.

Yes, I know Sean very well.

No, you didn't have to.

Everybody knows how you feel, yeah, about Russ.

Yeah,

Russ probably feels the same way, but would never say anything.

I'm a little surprised Russ even responded to this.

I like it, Ocho.

But here's the thing.

You'll only be able to take so much.

Absolutely.

Because what you see is just like they keep going and keep going and keep going.

And then, oh, you weak.

You weak.

So Russ responded.

I don't have a problem with Russ, with Russ saying, but

come on now.

Ocho.

Are you surprised Russ responded?

And

are you surprised this thing has really taken, got legs and kind of like started running on its own?

I like the fact that it has legs.

I like the fact that it has legs.

Sean Payton, he already tried Russ on the sideline.

He tried Russ on the sideline, berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoking Russ, hoping he would break character, hoping he would show a different side than who he actually is.

He kept calm, mild mannered.

Now he takes shots at him again

for no reason at all.

And I love russell choir boy wilson but i love the fact that he stood he stood up for himself russell wilson matthew 5 39 in the bible it says turn the other cheek well this time russ say he i done ran out of cheeks i'm finna clap back i'm gonna fire back at you i'm finna stand up for myself and i like him showing some some enthusiasm and and and and getting in the fire for a change instead of just letting you know let it be water off a duck's back man talk your russ it's okay it's okay guess what what

ain't no person named shannon in the bible i ain't in there you keep talking back taking your cheap shots at me i'm gonna put something on you come on now talk

russ did remember remember ocho come on russ at some point in time enough has to be enough you made your point right you didn't want me you moved on you have a quarterback in both nicks that seems to be that he's the guy for the broncos future i've gone this two this This is my second team since I've left the Broncos.

I ain't bothering nobody.

Russ, you can like or dislike Russ, but the one thing that you can't say that he's not bothering anybody.

He's not talking down.

He's not saying anything negative about anybody.

So my thing is, why?

Hey, let me say, Uncle Joe.

Russell Wilson, if you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off the field, he's a consummate pro.

He is the ultimate pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work, being a family man, being a husband, doing everything the right way.

The fact that he finally got outside of his character for a change is exciting for me.

I like it.

I enjoy it because now, listen, at some point,

you got to put a nail in the coffin because if you don't put a nail in the coffin, they're going to keep digging your grave.

I agree.

They're going to keep on digging your grave and keep digging at you for no reason.

There's no reason for, and I know Sean Payton as well.

There's no reason for you to do that, but you understood.

Listen, I got it, I got a sitting duck.

I got an easy duck.

He ain't going to say nothing.

He ain't going to fire back.

But finally, we get a new Russell Wilson.

I love this.

I love this Russell Wilson.

And Russell, I know you're going to see this.

Anybody else say something?

You better fire off of their ass too.

Go ahead, Joe.

Hey, I agree with both of y'all.

I think, you know, I think Russ is more so like, you know, enough is enough, man.

He ain't said nothing.

He's been going about his way, you know, tending to his business.

And they still taking cheap shots at him i'm with him man i'm glad he responded i'm glad he said something be petty betty go back at him

yeah it doesn't matter how mild mannered a person is eventually yeah eventually you look at i mean you look at any animal it might be even even the dog might you see it but after a while he's gonna lash out at you it's going to a lash out because it's only going to take so much so he russ felt that okay former teammates have been taking shots at him you know x y and z and said all these things and now he's like bro how much how much more how much more crap do y'all want to dump on me and say man y'all just pouring perfume on me listen because at some point ocho enough is enough yeah yeah you made your point okay okay i'm fine i i get it i get it i didn't i didn't live up to the expectations that i had the coaching staff the organization or the fan base of Denver.

I didn't meet those expectations.

I accept that, but I'm gone.

There's no need.

There's no reason for you to mention you can praise Jackson Dart

without taking a dump on me.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Hey, look.

Praise your guy.

But why would you tap to take a shot at me?

And you, like I said, he said that he was just praising Jackson Dart, but you said that you had talked to John Mara, who's who's one half of the owner of the giants weeks ago

even if he had done that he could have kept that to himself yeah he didn't have to share that

well he didn't have to share that ocho john joe he could he could have just said what he said like you know and and maybe with his coaching staff or with his close buddies when he's having a drink i told you i told john i was like man i hope y'all make that make that change after us because it's just a matter of time right cool and nobody the the way Jackson Dart is playing, I don't think anybody's upset that they made this move.

I told Ocho, I said, oh, Ocho, over under.

Eight weeks.

I said, I'm looking like, I'm taking the under.

Ocho, just said, no, I said, I'm taking the under.

Yeah.

Because I had seen enough in, I seen enough in the preseason.

I said, oh, they're going to make this, this, make this change sooner than later.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I just don't, I don't, I don't, you know, the continuation.

of beating down Russ is it's it's unnecessary.

And what does that mean?

I know you're excited.

Oh, Joe, you know, we win a game, Ocho, we win a game we're saying yeah we beat them sorry yeah we beat them sorry raffles yeah yeah but we thought y'all had us getting 33 in the fourth 33

i get all that but come on now

winners are not enough oh

how how how much am i supposed to take

i like it a matter of fact he should have cursed in the tweet he should have cursed

go go all the way there it wasn't enough for you no

listen i like it he listen, he fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner.

Absolutely, man.

Come on, man.

Hey, Russ, next time, man, man, man, what?

What I put, let me put the tweet together.

I'll put the tweet together for you.

Hell, dog.

Hey, listen, but what was it about?

Why was Sean Payton bring that up, honestly?

Like, what did that have to do with anything?

Listen,

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The privileges that was bestowed upon Russ before Sean Payton got there.

I said some things and everybody called me a lie.

I was talking, me and Ocho, and I was having a conversation.

And everybody wanted to tell me, Shannon, you don't know what's going on because you're not there.

I say, you do realize I'm still held in very, very high regard in Denver.

You actually think I would say something like this and it not be the gospel?

I say, hey, I'm Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

When I speak about something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel.

I don't really talk too much about it because y'all, they know, but they try to undermine me and try to say, you're not in the locker room, or you don't know what I'm talking about.

But y'all don't realize how often I call around the league.

And a lot of things that's going on that get reported, that ain't my job.

I ain't Adam Schefter.

I don't try to be.

I'm not Jake Lazer.

I don't try to be.

But I know a lot more than what I I say.

And when it comes out, like,

they got mad.

I said it.

Sean got there.

When they were explaining the privileges that Russ got,

Sean's like, are you hitting me?

Are you kidding me?

It's like, no, you're like, we thought that he's like, no, that is not normal protocol.

Nobody in the history.

had ever had a situation like that.

And from that point on, once he heard that, it was over.

He would have needed to throw for 50 touchdowns, 4,000 yards, and get him to the AFC championship.

Other than that, it wasn't going to work.

So, instead of trying to listen to what I was trying to say, try to explain what was transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ in Denver.

They wanted to talk about, oh, you're talking bad about a black man.

You wouldn't say that about a white guy.

When I had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers and all these other quarterbacks, but see, long as I'm talking about them, it's fine.

All I was saying, I didn't say Russ was a bad person.

I said he got privileges.

And it made it made his teammates feel a certain type of way.

It sort of added

itself.

We on Ocho, we know who makes the money.

Yeah.

But just because you make more money, we don't want you getting privileges.

We don't want you having offices that none of us.

Like, hold on, really?

Yeah.

So from that point on, Sean felt some type of way.

He felt some type of way.

And I get it.

I get it.

But that man has been gone for two years now.

It's time to let that go.

Yeah.

Joe,

you know what it is?

What's that?

It's the same thing with Mello and George Carl.

George Carl keeps on poking Mello.

Mello don't mention George Carl, but every chance he gets, he tries to poke Mello.

Mello's going to have to look,

Mello's going to have to draw a line in the sand and say, Mofo, if you step across this line again,

I'm going to have to unleash.

You know, he ain't got no problem doing that.

You know, Mello ain't got no problem drawing that line.

He's going to have to, because

every time he's always speaking negative.

Oh, they couldn't win no championship with that guy.

He wouldn't play defense.

He wouldn't do this.

I get it.

You don't like Mellow.

Everybody is not going to like everybody.

But, bro.

You hadn't coached Mellow in damn near two decades.

What is the issue now?

Can we just move on?

I mean, obviously at that point, it'd be better if coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this and they have things to say years removed from dealing or coaching a certain individual.

Why don't you just come out and say, you know what, I don't even like this individual.

And it's personal.

It had nothing to do with the sport.

It had nothing to do with basketball.

It had nothing to do with football.

Nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it may be.

I just don't like him.

And that's okay.

It would be better suited for us as a public and fans of these sports to come out and have sean pay say you know what i just don't like russell wilson i don't know i don't know what it is about him i just don't like him or george carl you know what i don't like carmelo whatever it may be what's understood don't need to be spoken

yeah

you know yeah man i i don't i don't well if say if if if if somebody continuously cheating on the other party yeah what do we what does he need to say what does she need to say

nothing you keep doing what you're you're doing when you know it's wrong.

Yes.

I don't need to, I don't need no

Harvard attorney to try to read between the lines.

Yes, sir.

You're telling me the mere fact that you keep taking shots at me publicly is one thing if it's getting back to me, Ocho.

But the mere fact that you're putting it in print, the mere fact that you keep saying it publicly, I can read it for myself.

I can see it for myself

tells me that how you feel about me.

But I didn't, I already knew that.

I'm like, I've been trying to take the high road, try to remain, remain professional.

I'm trying to build a brand.

I don't want to do anything to tarnish that.

But hey, bro, I understand.

That's not what you are.

You don't try to build a brand.

You're not really on television.

People go to you when they want to get, they want to get clicks, they want to get a rage-bait material.

They'll come to you and you'll say something.

Mellow is one of the 75 greatest players to ever play in the NBA.

We understand what Mellow is.

Now he's a Hall of Famer.

So automatically, if somebody says something negative,

that's going to get picked up.

That is Mellow.

That's his former coach.

I just don't get it.

We don't have to like all of our teammates.

We don't have to like all of our coaches.

I've had, I had a great relationship with

all the coaches, maybe one or two I didn't really drive with.

And

it's okay, but I would never say anything publicly.

Absolutely.

Hey, look, your teammate.

It's only so much, bro.

It's only so much.

Yeah, bro.

Bro, I'm 57.

I got grands now.

But what I'm talking about, what happened 25, 30 years ago for a butcher.

What purpose does that serve?

In a negative light.

Yes.

Yeah, none at all.

None at all.

I mean, listen, I get along with everybody.

I'd assume.

I try to.

I'd assume everybody loves me the same way I show love.

There's only one person I don't get along with.

And if I ever see him, it's on site.

And

I'm not.

like, huh?

What'd you say, Joe?

Who is that?

You don't want to say?

You don't want to say?

Oh, James Harrison.

Oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's personal.

It's personal.

And I say it every day.

And I let him know.

And I can't wait to see him.

Obviously, he doesn't live here in Miami, but the only place I probably see him on, maybe Super Bowl?

Yeah.

I'm sure we'll probably cross paths, maybe,

you know, Radio Row or some shit like that.

And either he's going to have security or it's just, it's just gonna be a thumping session.

Oh, Joe, I don't know if you want to climb that tree, man.

Hey, one thing, one thing about me.

Hey, hey, let me tell you something.

Hey, Joe, in high school, they called me Paul Bunyan.

You hear me?

I used to, hey, I'm chopping every

down.

Hey, all the trees.

Hey, hey, hey, as your player partner, man, I'm trying to listen.

You might want your pass on that one, bro.

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, brush up on your NFL knowledge.

What you want to know?

I seen.

No, I'm just saying, because I might need a new partner.

Okay, okay, say less say less say less say less i'm with you hey the fact that y'all don't have no faith in me man that that that y'all y'all not y'all not christian hey hey hey onks basically saying you're gonna be concussed you're gonna be out you're gonna be out for the rest of this i'll be though we gotta look we got other we got other business ventures that we're trying to get to ocho oh we're gonna get there no matter what we're gonna get there no matter what i mean if you can't talk for like six months oh oh i'm gonna be

man trust me i'm gonna be okay You listen, if you see me in a fight with a bell, you might wanna help the bell.

Yeah, hey,

I don't need no partner when he moves in the chair like this here.

You hear me?

I can't, I can't use no partner like that.

I need a real partner, somebody to go laugh and joke and get up out of the chair.

Hey, hey, oh, hey, Ocho, I got a question.

What's your game plan, though?

Like, what y'all, y'all getting in the Oxagon?

What y'all doing?

Hey, listen, listen, Octagon Street, boxing ring.

It don't matter.

On site, it don't matter, Joe.

Like, I'm at that point.

Like, I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him, and he really don't want no smoke.

He's not responding.

That lets me know.

I mean, all that size and muscle don't mean nothing, man.

Okay, hey, hey, from me to you, bro.

Just keep your distance, stick and move.

Hey, that's what, hey, Joe, that's what I'm going to do, Joe.

Yeah, there you go.

Hey, look at Moraine.

Yo, Moraine.

Make my

back there.

Yeah.

You know, I'm going to keep him out of distance, Joe.

Like, I might get mid-range in there and get close up on him.

No, no, no, don't do that.

Don't do that.

No, don't get close.

Keep that distance.

Use that jab.

You got to use that jab, baby.

Hey, Joe, I'm going to use that thing, Joe.

I'm going to use it.

I'm telling you, man,

listen.

Hey, one thing about it.

God always be on my side.

God always be on my side.

You hear me?

And all my side.

I'm on your side.

I'm saying, I'm going to put him off you.

I mean, but y'all sound like y'all ain't on my side.

Y'all telling me I'm going to be hurt and I ain't going to be able to talk.

And yeah, it ain't gonna be ain't looking good.

All right.

But no, what we try to do, Ojo, we're trying to keep you safe.

Is it

I'm safe when I get in the car?

I put my seat.

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And when you you were younger, what position did you play?

I know you weren't playing DN back then.

No, I played running back.

What?

You were toting that ball.

You were toting the PM what?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I played running back all through high school.

That's why I've always been fans.

Right.

So at what point did you, did your body, did, did your body, you know, grow into actually now I can be on the defensive side of the ball and you got a little bigger?

Well, actually, my senior year, like I always like dig in high school, but my senior year, I played both sides.

Right.

And I played a stand-up linebacker

my senior year of high school.

So it's kind of like transition after that.

Are you from Georgia?

No, I'm from Georgetown, but I moved to Georgia after I graduated high school in 2020.

Georgetown, South Carolina?

Georgetown, South Carolina.

Hey, matter of fact, you know what?

I got a look.

I got a small look.

You ain't know this, right?

See?

ABY, you ain't know I know this.

You and Melissa Jefferson come from the same small town, too.

Yeah, yeah, we went to the, we went to the same high school, was on the same track team.

Ah, but you ran track too?

Yeah, I ran track my senior year.

Wait, what, what, what, what race?

I was on the four by one.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

So you, you, you, you get called.

So how did you, how did you end up at Tennessee?

Uh, honestly, that was the first power pod school to offer me.

So, um, really, yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

It was, it felt like it was a sign from God.

So, you know, I just went with them.

That's so.

Man, and you, hey, you got a playing in the SEC.

So was that always your dream to play in the NFL?

You just had, A, you took a little detour.

It took you a little while, but A, you ended up where you ended up and you got to ultimately, your ultimate destination.

Was that always your goal?

So what did Byron wanted to be when he was growing up?

When he was a kid, he was eight, nine, 10 years of age.

What did you want to be?

I always wanted to be in the NFL.

I always wanted to go in the NFL.

I'd be lying to you if I told you that I just knew this would have happened, like based off my journey, but like, my mindset was I just never wanted to quit, you know, I always like wanted to somehow get back into playing football but i really just didn't know how that would look like you know growing up like just being around a lot of people that really didn't really make it to the nfl so it's kind of hard to kind of navigate and find your ways through there so like you know it was just unpredictable but i always kept faith

wow that's that man that's unbelievable that's an unbelievable story so you get so you go to the university of tennessee you have an outstanding collegiate career and now it's draft

So what were the scouts telling you?

Did you know you go, did they tell you, okay, you might be a first-round pick?

You could be a late first round pick early second did they tell you day one day two what what what what were you hearing when you were coming out uh i was really hearing day two um some said possibly day three but mostly it was day two um my biggest knock was my age so i was like an older guy um they like how mature i was with my age so it really was always day two but possibly day three because of that so

You found the home now, rushing the passer.

This is your third year, right?

Yes, sir.

So you got one year with AD.

Got one year with AD.

Oh, yeah.

Man, can you, do you, do you sit back and think and say, man, can I imagine me verse AD

right now, knowing what I know now, verse knowing what he knows now?

And you're talking about arguably the greatest defensive tackle to ever play, one of the five greatest defensive players.

And the way our offense can score.

And be we ahead, and now I just get to hunt the quarterback.

They got the double 99.

They got to.

Well, i think about that every day i just feel like i took some you know some of it i feel like i took it for granted a little bit my rookie year but i i just said i was learning you know i was growing but like now i just look back in my 30s i was like man if we if we could have him too you know what i'm saying

but you know you know i just i'm just thankful that i had one year you know with him and him you know teaching me things and you know just just being my mentor and so

What were some of the things that he taught you?

So to watch him, obviously he plays the three to five.

It's a different, you're mainly an edge.

You're on the edge.

Oh, uh, normally, occasionally, you put your hand in the dirt, but you like to rush the passer from a stand-up position, sir.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, stand-up.

Uh, kind of was doing that at Tennessee for the most part.

That's when I kind of started dropping, though.

So, yeah, stand up outside linebacker, but you know, being with AD and some of the things he kind of taught me, oh, just be patient.

You know, uh, I feel like as a rookie, you're always trying to be perfect, you always not trying to make mistakes.

So, I feel like coming in, I screwed so much about like, I'm trying to be perfect, I'm not trying to do this wrong.

And, you know, he always just said, you know, just be patient and just let it come to you.

You know, like, you're going to make mistakes and just learn from them.

But, you know, that was something that always stuck with me.

And so coming into the season, obviously, with it being your third year, obviously you have team goals, but have

your personal goals.

Obviously, I'm sure the Sachs and

the trajectory you are on right now so far this season.

Are there any other goals you had set in mind from an individual's perspective going into this season?

Oh, definitely.

I'm making my first pro goal, you know, being all pro.

You know, that's always been a dream come true for me.

You know, that's something I always wanted, you know, just, you know, just watching the guys that I looked up to, like Bond Miller and those guys like that, like one of my favorite players ever.

And just watch how they just go about business and, you know, every year making a Pro Bowl.

And it's just like, that's something I always wanted to do.

So coming into, you know, my third year, my goal is, you know, I'll feel, of course, as a team, make it to the Super Bowl.

But for myself, all pro,

Pro Bowl, you know, and defense player of the year, that's why I'm looking, that's why I'm reaching, you know, every, every day I work, that's why, you know, that's what I'm trying to accomplish.

So,

you know, BY, the easiest thing you'll do is make it to the Pro Bowl once.

Now, what happens when they get that, you know what, we're going to sit our game playing to BY.

Now we slide the protection.

Now we have the back chip on his way out.

Now we have the tight end that chip on his way out.

Now.

The second Pro Bowl, the third Pro Bowl, those are the ones that get hard because now they know what you can do.

And now you have expectations for yourself.

The fans, management, they have greater expectations because they saw what you've done.

You've gone to the Pro Bowl.

You're like, hey, I got nine sacks.

Hold on.

I think we got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

We got nine more.

We got nine, ten game.

Hold on.

If I get a sack of game, get a couple, two sack game, man.

I can get 20 sacks.

Oh, yeah.

And now you're like, hold on, 20 sacks.

Hey, they don't have to come see you.

They play big bucks for 20 sacks.

20 sacks.

They don't want to come see you.

Hey, hey, I go by, I can go back and buy all of georgetown yeah

hey

hey what's the name stan stan what unc stan crocky yeah tell stan we want 49 a year oh yeah

yeah hey uh 50.

50.

hey so so coming into the sea obviously you know your third year what are some of the things you work on uh you look you got great get off obviously you can convert speed to power so so what what what were you working on in the office office?

Because each year you work on something to try to improve, to get better, because sometimes the moves that you worked on that worked this year, it might not work.

I'm not getting rid of them, but I got to have another trick in my bag that I need to pull out, especially when I got to get off the field.

We got to make sure we get off the field.

We got to make sure we keep them out of field goal range.

We got to make sure we keep them out of the end zone.

So, what were some of the things that you was working on this offseason, BY?

You know, this offseason, going into my third year, just looking back at my first two years, I just feel like I wanted to take a different approach so um i took on you know pilates i started doing pilates three days out the week um just to build my body and you know just strengthen that core get flexible yeah working them little muscles you know i'm saying with longevity and stuff like that and um to help prevent injury so i felt like doing pilates definitely helped my body type and helped me being able to big thin getting off the ball faster you know flexibility and everything bending the corner you know how i do so it's like those some of the things that i was doing i was really consistent at it i feel like i seen the different things that helped and just putting in extra work, you know, getting more get offs, working my technique more, getting more film studies, studying myself, you know, and studying what I lacked last, my last two years.

And I was just trying to improve from that.

So my goal every time I step on the field is improve, you know, something that I didn't do good yesterday, whether it's get off, whether it's foster, whether it's use my hands, you know, whether it's parallel.

I always try and just like.

get better at something, you know, every practice.

So that's kind of my approach.

I was taking OTAs and Cal,

then more attention.

You guys still run the hoop that circle that you know, you try to run it and stay as low as you possibly can.

Y'all still do that?

Well, well, we kind of do that.

We kind of do something else with the medicine ball.

We like have the medicine ball, we kind of fill up our hips, but we kind of like do it around the whole hoop.

But we don't, I know what you're talking about.

We don't really do like that too much.

So, when at the end of the end of this season, look, hey, you're a third-round pick.

Oh, they got to come see you after this year.

Yeah.

They got to come see you, B.Y.

Oh, so you're going crazy.

You really try to leave.

I'm going to get this 20-piece out here.

You know what I'm saying?

That's always the goal is just that, you know, try to get to that second deal.

So I'm definitely working for that for sure.

Yeah.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Man, congratulations on all your success, man.

I mean, it wasn't.

Oh, let me ask you this.

The youngest of 13.

How many brothers?

How many, how many boys?

How many girls?

Nine boys and four girls.

And you the youngest?

I'm the youngest, yeah.

Man, mom and pop wasn't playing.

That's dope.

That's dope.

That's live.

Hey, so, so I'm talking about, so when y'all get, oh, Georgetown, see, y'all eat some of anything down there.

I know about that low country.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All the hogs.

Y'all put everything in a pot.

They call it potluck Ocho.

They put it all in a pot.

You lucky if it don't kill you, but they're going to eat good.

Nah, nah, thanks.

You're going to eat good.

When you go back home, so what was it like?

So you go to the NFL.

Is there anybody from Georgetown?

How close is Georgetown to Monks Corner?

like Somerville and Charlie, that.

How close are you to that?

Charleston is like an hour away from Georgetown.

it's not too crazy.

Is there any form?

Hold on.

I think, where is Jump?

I think Jumpy Gathers from down your way.

Yeah, yeah.

That's my family.

They're from Chumpy.

They're from around the way, Georgetown, too.

I played with Jumpy.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're from Romania.

I played with your man, Jumpy.

Oh, Lord, Jumpy, the country is, man.

Hey, I don't know what he had, but he had some stuff in a green bottle.

He rub it on his knee, rub it on his ankle, and then drink it.

He's talking about, you want to try something?

I said, No, I'm good.

I don't know, you know, my knee don't hurt no more.

No, them was different,

for sure.

Y'all, you got home remedies like that?

I mean,

not like that, but we got some stuff that we do, but that was, yeah, I ain't never heard of that.

That's probably way back in the day.

Yeah, hey, meanwhile, thanks for joining us, man.

Continue success, stay healthy.

And

you lead the league in sacks.

Come back and tell us how you did it.

Yes, sir.

I appreciate y'all having me, man.

Thank you.

We appreciate you coming, man.

Give some rest.

Stay healthy.

Best of luck the rest of the year.

Hey, this offseason, Stan Crockett, give you that five-year 175.

200, 200.

We need two.

Okay, man.

I ain't say no both.

I ain't going to say no both.

I got you.

I got you.

Appreciate you, bro.

Good luck.

All the best.

All right.

Thank you.

Man.

Hold on, let me use the bathroom.

Go ahead.

Man, that's a, he's a, you can see he's a very,

you can tell he's mature.

And, you know, and you see, now you see, you heard what they say?

Because of his age.

Now you see why them guys try to get out of school early because they hold that against you.

Because they look at it like, if you're that good, why are you still in school?

They use the manage against him.

Now he got an age.

He's going to hit that jackpot, though.

He's going to get paid.

And deservedly so.

I love people that, you know, he's a fighter come from Georgetown.

Not a whole lot, you know, going on down there, but he's like, hey, same thing with Melissa.

And to see

where he came from

and to see where he's headed, man, he seems so mature.

He seems like he got, you know, he's well grounded.

And, man,

I'm excited.

I'm excited to see what this season and what it unfolds for him, Ocho.

Oh, Joe, Isaiah Rogers had a bad day on the football field.

He gave up a 79-yard touchdown to Devontae Smith.

He gave up a touchdown to AJ Brown.

And his DMs were on swole, but nothing caused him deserved to be.

Look at what he said.

We got it up on the screen.

Go effing

it

face.

You effing suck,

effing third down.

You know it's a pass.

You just gave the Eagles the win.

Good

F F-face,

you know, with all their spells.

If they really want to get up on your skin, you know, they go, hey, they got to put that in in there.

They got to put that, they got to put that within there.

You're worse than Hitler.

He'll have never been picked up.

Worthless piece of crap, waste of air, N-word again.

Oh, man.

Hey, that's funny, boy.

that's funny and i listen at at at this day and age

as as as as growing

oh yeah you go oh joe denny denny's like all right bro my bad just lock in nah nah nah don't delete it now no keep that in no

what you mean all right just no no no no no no you should have just that's what you should have said at first yeah come on bro hey lock in nah what you want to get all that on listen

you understand the climate we in.

You understand the climate we're in.

They're fans when you're playing well.

When you're not playing well,

they'll tell you and talk to you truly how they feel about it.

Yes.

That's all.

It's the world we live in.

But

once you realize, Ocho,

they applaud what you do, not who you are, you're fine.

The mistake,

is that they applaud what you do, not who you are.

And listen, they're not a fan of you.

They're a fan of the team that you happen to play for.

Exactly.

And then, guess what?

Because that's how he really feels.

Because

when I get upset, the first thing that I go through, when I get somebody,

the first thing I ain't thinking the most, what is the worst thing that I know?

Oh, you're in?

Or

that ain't what I do.

But they try to go, what's the lowest thing?

What is the most hurtful thing that I can say

that I can get a rise out of said individual?

And you can get a rise.

Now, you can get a rise if you really care about it.

He probably sees Isaiah Rogers.

What's up, Rogers?

Hey, bro, what up, man?

Dabbing him up.

I just don't get it.

I just think.

That's why.

I never would.

I mean, I don't know how other people react to it.

Words, stuff type.

I'll let that stuff bother me.

I could care less.

It goes in one of the other.

Did they have a

did they have Twitter and IG when you played?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I didn't care.

I don't care.

I didn't care what you say.

Oh, yeah.

I understand the world we live in.

I understand, even though you can't see it, the way people feel, it's still out there.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

And I understand that.

Well, they got it.

Well, they got it.

They got a, they got a, they got a

black card

that have unlimited access to say whatever you want to know in the climate that we're in now.

We're as divisive as we've ever been as a country.

I don't see it getting any better on the horizon.

I stay in my lane.

I ain't got time to argue with y'all.

I'm not going back and forth with y'all.

I know how y'all feel about me.

I'm going to stay in my, I'm going to keep it moving.

Go ahead.

But

I've been very blessed, Ocho, is that when I travel and you and I both travel a lot over

everybody is great.

I haven't met with not one person.

It's just people that hide behind their computer screens.

You know, everybody got, everybody got thumb muscles.

What kind of muscles?

Thumb muscles.

Cause they tight real, real tough.

Hey, that's funny.

Damn, man.

Okay, I'm sorry.

I know what I did was wrong, and I should never have done that.

Why you shouldn't have never done that?

So now your boss might see that it might cost you your job.

Hey,

you change your tone up real quick.

Yeah, he didn't put your name.

Oh, he's lucky.

He could have been messy too.

Now

you got

messy.

That's a part of it.

It's It's always been a bad way.

So,

think about this, Ocho.

That's because he played bad.

You used to get this just because

you were that color.

Think about if he went through this, think about what Jackie Robinson went through.

Think about what all the black players went through.

Think about they had a rule.

I ain't even said, Look, but there used to be the NFL, they wouldn't allow black players then.

But we're going to talk about that, Ocho.

Think about that.

Just because,

just because

i hadn't done anything i just want to hey i just want to make a living that's it

got i'm going to feed my kids that's it

yeah he when he picked up the yeah

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As we have said previously, there is simply no room for racist words or action in sports or society.

We support Isaiah and all players who unfortunately experience this type of ignorant and prejudicial behavior far too often.

And we ask our fans to continue to fight to eliminate racism.

Yeah.

Hey, yes, we've been putting out quotes and speeches and putting uh symbols,

logos, and slogans painting the street and

you oh, yo, love over hate and racism, all that other stuff that ain't not stopping.

It ain't going nowhere.

It ain't going nowhere.

I just, how you treat, how you treat me.

I understand it.

I know you don't like me.

Okay.

We ain't got to deal with each other.

We ain't got to deal with each other.

If I know somebody doesn't like me,

why would I go?

Why would I go to anything?

that that person is having why would i give i don't follow people that don't like me i don't go to their page

that's what i don't get you oh you don't like something that i said you on my page

i didn't say it to you

that it i don't get it i i don't i and i never would you know what ocho everything is not meant to be understood

i mean i had to learn if you understand the history of it

you know it's not going nowhere oh i understand it ever yeah you know you know you have some that you you have some that are genuinely not like that huh genuinely not like that don't have a hate and a bad bone in their body and yeah i think you know the thing is i and i obviously clearly uh i've been i've been retired two decades and none of this was out when i was done but i'm not so sure i would have been on social media um when i played during the season

i had i had a singular focus and and and you know look i i

Everybody wasn't happy.

Everybody's not going to be happy for you.

But I expect, oh, oh Joe, when you went to Pittsburgh, you expected me to

tell me I saw, just keep it, hey, just keep it, just keep it, hey, we're going to keep everything above the belt.

No low blows.

You ain't got to call me in.

You ain't got to talk about my mom and stuff like that.

All that ain't necessary.

Because you and I both know if I'm walking down the street, you ain't going to say, hey, Ian.

All that stuff that you say on Twitter and that you all tough about, y'all not going to say that.

Y'all not.

No.

At least I haven't met anybody.

People look, can my son take a picture with you?

I mean, I get sometimes, hey, bro, I don't want to take no pictures.

And Ocho, you'll see him do this, hit the thing, hit the turnaround on the camera.

and still try to snap it.

Yes.

Or you be sitting in your seat, oh Joe, and all of a sudden they pretend like they pretend like they looking at something.

I'm looking just like, oh, I'm just like this here.

I'm like, really, bro?

You're not going to ask.

You're just going to take it without my permission.

Hey.

Ocho, I was in the

Jordan was with me the other day.

So this guy come up to me, like, man, can I take a picture?

I was like, bro, he's like,

I don't normally do this.

So why are you doing it?

I say, well, how many famous or semi-famous people, people you see in the airport?

I've never seen anybody.

That's why you don't do it.

He makes it seem like he just, he just, he walking down Rodeo Drive and see A-list celebrities and he passing them up.

But he said, yeah, I don't normally do this.

I said, well, how many, you know, famous people or semi-famous people you see in the airport?

I've really never seen no one.

I said, Well, that's probably why you don't do it.

A random person is not going to let you take no picture with them.

It's so funny when people

say, I normally don't do this.

Listen, I hate to bother you.

Hey, I hate to bother you, but I'm finna bother you anyway, basically.

Come on, man.

Just take the picture.

But they wait till they get done eating.

I'm just about to eat.

So they're getting getting ready to leave, don't you?

I'm at the gym.

They done got their workout in.

You mind if I get a picture?

Well, let me get my workout in like you got yours in, and we get one afterwards.

How are you going to get your workout in, finish up?

Then you're going to interrupt my workout.

You didn't interrupt your workout.

Now, when you was working out, not one time did you say, could you get a picture?

Because you was focused on getting your workout.

Now I'm trying to get mine in.

And you mind if I get a picture?

Yeah, hey, listen.

People already know if you catch me in public,

you good.

You good.

You good.

Hey, I be having people feeling like I went to high school.

Like, I got people feeling like it's a goddamn high school reunion, like we went to school together or some shit.

I'll put part A to part B.

I'll be boo.

You in and out.

Hey, you mess around and stop.

I don't really go there.

You mess around and stop me, but we'll be sitting there talking for 20 minutes.

I ain't got that kind of time because uh,

we're in a hurry, we get we get from point A to point B, Jordan and I.

Hey,

I'm in a hurry, OJo.

Because the last thing I've boy, I missed my flight.

I mean, one time we all missed the flight.

We've coming from Houston, and then we went to uh, with the Salt Lake.

Remember, they diverted us to Salt Lake,

yes, Yes.

We had a four-hour delay.

Yes.

And Shelly was on the thing.

Shelly had her already booked us on another flight.

So with Shelly, you know, she booked the flight.

She'll book one flight and then after flight.

And then if we get that one, she'll cancel, you know, she'll cancel it.

But man, I was like, man,

boy, these flights, man.

They got to do better than this.

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