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Oh, Joe.

Your quarterback once broke today. Here is Joe Burrow.
And if the Bengals are a playoff team.

Come on, Joe. Yeah, you know, our division is wide open.

There's a lot of,

I think Pittsburgh's five and four at this point. We play them this week.

So, you know, everything is still there in front of us. It's very rare that our division looks like this, but it does this year.
And so, you know, I think we'll be at least in it until the end.

Is it fair to say with the wild cards that the best path forward would be winning the north? I think it would be very difficult for us to be a wild card team at this point.

Obviously, a lot of football to be played.

But

I think that's difficult. I think our best path would be win the division.

Oh, Joe. Hey, Joe, talk your talk.
And the funny thing about it is every time I hear Unk, yes, yes, you, Unc. You know, you talk about the division.

The first thing you do is you talk about your goddamn Ravens being able to come back after they were... Yeah, talk about the Ravens.
Listen, there's a chance that we don't win it.

Why would you think the Ravens are going to come back and win it before the Bengals do? They got a better winning. Why? Because our defense is bad?

I mean, I'm asking, is it because our defense is bad? Yeah.

Oh, so I'm saying, y'all had one good game. Y'all played defenses.
All of a sudden, y'all all world.

Y'all back and have the best chance in the world.

No, you don't.

Their defense is better than yours.

Right.

You know, I like that you did that. Their defense is better.
But it's still bad. But the only thing that's wide open is the booking window for those vacations Joe Burrow needs to book.

They say if you book your, they say for domestic travel, the best time is 38 days before you actually fly. 100 days before the international.
So Joe,

the way I'm calculating things, your season is going to be over probably the first week in January. So you can pay

on some flights. Hey, let me tell you something.

One thing you don't want to do is when my quarterback says something, when a quarterback with that kind of confidence that's coming off surgery, a toe surgery, he says we have a chance and our chance at winning the division is

not being a wild card, not being a wild card, but winning the division. You listen to that.
You stand on that when he says that because he will come back and prove you wrong. Uh,

first of all, they put man on the moon, so anything is possible.

Hey, I don't even, I don't even know if that was real. That was AI.
And this right here, what he said was AI. I'm glad you brought it.

If you think y'all gonna win the division, the Ravens will win in that division. Hold on.

The quarterback, our quarterback said there's a chance we can win the division because it hasn't been clear as

this season.

It looks a little different. It doesn't look like it like this, but it does this year.

Hey, it's up in the air. It's going to look bad like this all the time.

Hey, we have a chance because our offense is phenomenal. Y'all further behind than the Cowboys.

And you know what?

We're not going to.

We got it on the screen?

Right now, the playoffs, it would be Indy, number one seed, eight and two. Broncos, eight and two, two seed.
New England, eight and two, three seed. Pittsburgh, five and four.

The Chargers, seven and three. Buffalo, six and three.
Jacksonville,

five and four. The Chiefs out of the playoffs at five and four.
Houston, Texans, four and five. Baltimore, four and five.
Bengals, three and six. Miami, three and seven.

Hey.

Pittsburgh and stomp a mud hole in y'all they got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh right

yeah hey and let me let me ask you something we got Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh and we and when we win what you gonna have to say what you gonna have to say Sunday when we win oh yeah yeah oh y'all got Pittsburgh New England and the Ravens 0 and 3 it's over

hey

hey we might we might throw for 200 2500 yards in the next three games you know what that say the next three games we might throw for 2500 yards Oh Joe. Hey, 40, a 40 points a game.
Oh Joe.

You like cooked barbecue, right?

Everybody,

when you cook barbecue, slow

and low.

So guess what?

Slow and low. These next three games, I'm going to put y'all in the oven at 250

and I'm going to let y'all cook.

At 250?

With a

when that thing hit hit in three weeks.

Good night, Irene.

I want you to keep that same energy when we get on here Sunday. You hear me?

I want you to keep that same energy when we get on the show Sunday after we beat the Steelers. Y'all ain't going to beat the Steelers.
They're going to get right on y'all.

Get right on y'all.

All right. You're going to remember.

What happened to them getting right the last time you played them? What happened? A little temporary setback. Y'all won 33-30, 33-31, but you won't win this week.

Hey, and then what happened the next week? 39-38 lost to the Jets. 42-42, 47-42, lost to the Bears.
Buy to lose to the Steelers. Go lose to the Patriots.
Go lose to the Ravens.

You know what? Ain't going to lose to the Bills. Ain't going to lose to the Ravens again.

And then y'all might beat the Cardinals and the Browns

and the Dolphins.

But it'd be too late.

Like the words of Tabaris, too late.

Sound good. Hey, you got a whole lot of energy.

You got a whole lot of energy, buddy. But listen,

you think we don't have a chance? I made the fact.

Look who's crying.

Boy, I can't wait to Sunday.

I love it when a plan come together.

Play it come together. What was the plan? The plan? Broncos in the playoffs.
Y'all not? Two years in a row back to back.

Oh, listen.

Two years back to back and home

after the first round? Hey, you need me to get you tickets to a Bronco playoff game? Because I can do that for you. Nah,

there's a chance I'm going to have something to say. But you won't have nothing in Cincinnati.

My quarterback, if my quarterback said we're going to win the division, I'm standing on business on what he said.

I'm taking his word for it.

You said that last year.

Who did that?

We go into the playoff. That's how you owe me $52, $5,900.

No, it ain't. That ain't how.

Oh, betting games throughout the season?

I got you.

I got you.

Hey,

Wimbo, y'all lose the next three. Steelers lost.
Patriots lost. Ravens lost.
Bills lost.

The next five games, y'all won't win. If y'all win one game, y'all might win one, but you won't win more than one game of the next four.

I bet you a golden doorknob to a bucket of cow manure, and I'll let you put up the cow manure.

I bet you a five-pound bucket of cow manure, and I will put up a golden doorknob.

I love your confidence. I love your confidence.
And I love the fact that you don't have confidence in my team. With my team and my quarterback, who just came back from surgery?

He will be. He'll be back in two weeks.
Is he playing? All I know lost 48-10. He'll be back in the middle.
He lost 28-3. Lost 37-24.
Lost 27-18. Won 33-31.
Lost 39-38. Lost 47-42.
Bout to lose again.

He'll be back in two weeks.

Actually, he can't come back for three weeks. But anyway.

Okay, three weeks. I mean,

either way, Flacco is carrying the helm. Flacco's steering the ship.
And he's steering it very well. Iceberg.
Now, we'll be back. Iceberg.

Star. What we need to do.
You hear me? What we need to do.

Hey, we need them pirates on defense.

That's it.

All right. You hear that alert? You ain't adhered to it.
Yeah. Everybody can see that big iceberg except you and your bingos.

Don't worry about it. Hey, keep that same energy with this Sunday when we win.

I want your apology to be just as loud as the disrespect. You lost to the Jets.

Y'all lost to the Jets. Y'all lost to a quarterback that threw for 54 yards.
He's had two games in which he's thrown for less than 100 yards. Y'all lost to that team.

Hey, you know what? Y'all almost lost to him, too.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Y'all almost lost him.

What do you mean, almost?

But you sit here boasting like when y'all played and you, y'all was any better. Y'all wasn't no better either.
Eight and two is better than three and seven.

If y'all won three games,

two, three. Y'all just won three games.

Yeah.

What is this man talking about? We're going to be all right.

We're going to be all right. But when we get into playoffs, what you going to do?

When that playoffs come, that regular season record don't really matter. It's a new season.
That started over. Because it's one and done.
One game, you go home.

Which football team plays the best on that specific day is all that comes down to. Y'all haven't played better than any other team, but except three times in 10 games.

Yeah, that's regular season, huh? Y'all know good and well, y'all not going to no playoffs.

All right. Hold on.
Y'all are allergic to the playoffs.

I got some Benadryl. I'm bringing you Benadryl.

Because I know you're about to have

a reaction. The Broncos are the longest winning streak in a decade despite an offense that has struggled to muster only 10 points.

Despite the Broncos being 8-2, the vibes have been low on the offensive side of the ball. And J.K.
Dobbins, the Broncos running back, expressed his frustrations. Excuse me, chat.

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hey you think we clean that up on you

and

walk off the colts beat us on a walk off the uh uh uh uh

the chargers beat us on a walk off

yeah y'all just get walked over

hold on hold on a team that are better than y'all beat y'all you understand all right

Teams that are better than y'all beat y'all. Yeah.

The Chargers, offensively, they're better than you. And your defense wasn't able to come that.

They kicked the 50-something-yard walk-off field goal, Ocho.

Yeah.

Oh, so the Jets. So the Jets are better than y'all.

Okay, glad you said that. The Jets are better than you.

The Jets are better than the Bengals.

Why would you say that? Because they beat you. Jets played.

Walked you down.

Oh, so the Broncos are better than you all. 28 to 3.
No. The Vikings are better than you all.
48 to 10.

Huh.

Wow.

Can I ask you a question? You really think that? I know that.

I don't think I know that.

All I got to say is my quarterback,

hey, 57 days after surgery, he stood in front of the media.

And said, we're going to the playoffs. Oh, Joe.
The Bengal. Suck.

Even if he didn't exactly say it,

his tone, his mannerisms let me know we going. And that's all I can go off of.

So if he said it, we're going. No matter what you say, no matter who we lost to in the past.
Go lose Sunday.

To who? The Steelers.

You really think we're going to lose to the Steelers?

After that performance they put up?

Man, please. TJY,

High Smith, they probably have about

three and a half, at least three and a half full sacks combined.

They didn't have that in the first one. They'll get it this one.
TJ Watt didn't get it. TJ Watt didn't get a sack in the last time they played the Bengals into the fourth quarter.

Damn, they're in garbage time.

What are you talking about? That's what you did. You get garbage when you play garbage teams.
What you expect them to get?

I like that energy. I like that.
I like that.

I like it. Keep that same minute.
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he may not just be one of today's most overrated active quarterbacks, but also of all time. His two-time MVP status is borderline fraudulent.

His credentials don't measure up to other ledgers who've won the award on numerous occasions.

Of the 10 players that have joined multiple MVP clubs during the Super Bowl era, Jackson is the lone member without a Super Bowl ring.

All the others on that list include Johnny Unitas, peyton manning aaron rodgers tom brady brett fav joe montano steve young kurt warner patrick mahom were able to take their team to multiple super bowl appearances and won at least once jackson has yet to even reach the big game he's three in five lifetime in playoffs and has a 375 postseason winning percentage percentage that stands far away the worst among multiple mvp winners first of all steve young did not take no team to multiple mvps he was a backup he took his team to one one MV to one Super Bowl and he did win it.

That was in 1994. He threw six touchdowns in Miami to beat the Chargers.
So let's let's

like to give context. Steve Young did not go to multiple Super Bowls.
Now,

also,

if I'm not mistaken, I think Earl Morrill,

didn't Earl Morrill start one of those Super Bowls for the Colts?

Oh, he had a two and a uh Johnny United's did or Earl? Earl in the for the 1972 season.

Yeah.

He had a two and a half postseason postseason record. No, that's from Miami.
Miami.

No, no.

Johnny went to two Super Two

Colts went to two Super Bowls?

I know they beat the Cowboys on the field goal. He was only there

for the Colts, both of my votes

for the 1970s.

Who, Johnny? Morrow. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, but.

Okay.

Look,

I get it.

Yes, and Ocho, we talked about this. This is the only

albatross. This is the elephant in the room.
You see the names that are on this list that have won multiple MVPs. Lamar is the only one that hasn't been to a Super Bowl.

That's not to say, Ocho, his career is not ending tomorrow.

Absolutely not.

Everybody jumped on me. when I said his career will be looked at as a disappointment if he doesn't get to a Super Bowl considering what he had accomplished.
You base it on what these other guys.

See, you can't just look, well, he won two MVPs. You got to look at the company that he's in that's won two MVPs.
Now you start looking at it, you're like, well, damn, he has to get to one.

Aaron Rodgers went to one. He has to get to at least one.

And then we look at him totally different. He gets to one and he wins it.

We look at him differently, Ocho. We just do.
Yeah, absolutely.

But yeah, listen, I understand the company that he keeps, the fact that he's won two MVPs, the fact that he's won those MVPs, those that are in the chat that are listening, that are watching, you have to understand that he's in a different, he's in a class of his own, in a different class for that matter.

So when it comes to judging him, he judged based off his,

not compadres, what's the word I'm looking for? People in the company you keep. His peers.

He judged. based on his other peers that have won MVPs as well.
And most of them, if not all, have been to a Super Bowl, whether they won a Super Bowl or not. So he jove off of that.

But the whole overrated part is the part I don't like. That's the part I don't like.

Saying that he's overrated because he hasn't gotten there yet when he's still playing and only his seventh, maybe eighth year. I'm not sure which one it is.
It's ridiculous. 18th.
For that matter.

Lamar's first year.

Yeah, okay, but but nothing about Lamar Jackson and what he brings to the table What he brings to the NFL What he brings to the Baltimore Ravens in general and giving them a chance and having them in contention every goddamn year Nothing about that is overrated.

That's the part I don't like. Now, that is more to me, it's more clickbait.

There should be a different title when it comes to talking about the quarterbacks that have won MVPs and have been or won a Super Bowl. The title should be goddamn different.

Overrated, my goddamn ass. Now, that's a bunch of bullshit.
Well, let me ask you a question.

But when you're looking at him, him, you button, see, here's the thing: they're not, see, you're looking at him against his peers, they're looking at him against his peers that have won two MVPs.

So, when you look at him, look at the class that he's in. You compared him to my homeboy, two MVPs, five Super Bowl appearances, three wins.

You look at him at Peyton Manning, five MVPs, three Super Bowl appearances, two wins. You look at Tom Bray, move on.

You're looking at Brad Farm.

How about this? Everybody on that list.

Everybody on that list except one person is already done and not playing anything. Correct.

Everybody on that list is done and not playing. So how about we wait until he's done playing and then we justify whether he belongs in that company or not or whether he's overrated or not.

And even if he doesn't go to a goddamn Super Bowl, what he's going to continue to do, the resume that he's going to put together, whether he wins three more MVPs and doesn't make a goddamn Super Bowl or not, nothing about Lamar Jackson is overrated.

I know the fact the way we judge quarterbacks is based on wins and losses and rings and hardware and all that.

But when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, when you're talking about people that played the game,

forget the media, forget the pundits, forget those that never played the game.

Nothing about young bull out of goddamn pompano who played for Boyne Beach High School is overrated, whether he has a goddamn ring or not.

He will still go down as one of the best, the best.

Quarterbacks to ever play this goddamn game. How do we judge Dan Marino? Do we say Dan Marino is not one of the greats because he's not see here's the thing ocho

g-r-e-a-t great

now if we add dst

one of the greatest

yeah that's what he's going for you see you said something very interesting and this is and this is actually true only quarterbacks get measured by wins and super bowl no other no other position super bowls matter okay right not like they do for a quarterback because Joe even when when Brady wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton Manning they said he was better than Manning because what did he have that Manning didn't

championships

think about it now Peyton Manning had won multiple multiple MVPs

Brady had three Super Bowls. Manning had three regular season MVPs.
They say, well, Brady's better. Right.
Because Brady has,

as you was pointing to your fingers, that's how they oh yo I don't sit the rules you see what happened with ring culture you see

what has it done it'll make people jump around and go try to find the best situation where they can win a ring and then they shut you up and it's like okay yeah I've already done what I needed to do now they no it's no more argument it's no more arguing at that point especially when it comes to basketball you have those that that that have to chase the ring because of ring culture and the rules the unwritten rules matter of fact how about that?

The unwritten rules, because who the hell came up with it? Who the hell came up with it? I don't know. Because

they were saying Jordan was better than Magic, and Magic had five rings.

They were saying Jordan was better than Bird, and Bird had three MVPs and three rings.

He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. You got to go all the way back to Wilt.

So what has happened is that now I give you another one.

The next couple years, people are going to say Shelhoy Atani is the greatest baseball player we've ever seen. He's got four MVPs, he's got them unanimously.

He's got two Super, he got two World Series winning, Ocho. He had one of the great postseason performers where he struck out 10 and hit three home runs.
Now,

he mess around and get another one and win another World Series. Who we who what we who what we gonna compare him to? Because we

have four MVPs unanimously.

yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy.
So you see, once you start, and

Barry Barnes was so great, even everybody that played against him said, that is the greatest player that I've ever seen. Greg Maddox said, well, it was really easy to pitch to Barry.

If it mattered, you walked him.

He said his job was to get 27 outs. You ain't going to get them on him.

So pick the other eight guys to get it and figure it out.

So when you look at it, Ocho,

look, it's hard to say

a man like Lamar.

And maybe you're right, maybe overrated is a harsh term. But I think if we,

they're looking at it as the 10 guys that have something that no other guys have. And that is, think about the NFL, Ocho.
How long has it been going on?

Hold on, stay with me. Stay with me real quick now.
So if we talk about hardware, right? And

hardware puts quarterbacks in

a different tier where

not just great, great is. So, are we saying like Ben Rothensberger belongs in that tier too? Are we saying Russell Wilson also belongs in that tier too?

When we talk about quarterbacks that are the greatest because they have no idea. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But here's the thing, Ocho.

None of those guys have regular season MVPs.

Okay. Oh, so there,

okay.

There's an

audience. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me ask you a question has anybody ever said Ben Rothensberger

was greater than Tom Brady Peyton Manning

no

so when you or so when you look at it and so when you when you look at it you have to have regular season MVPs that those matter now when you when you start getting postseason MVPs that means you won the Super Bowl

See you see Brady is hard

on the reason why Brady Brady has three regular season MVPs. He has seven

Super Bowls and five Super Bowl MVPs. So no matter what criteria you use, it's going to be hard for somebody to overtake him unless my homeboy gets five MVPs.

Let's just say for the sake of bargaining.

We have a compelling case if

my homeboy is not even 30. I think he just turned 30.

He got a long way to go. Yes.

He got a long way to go. So, and the thing, he just turned 30.
So when you look at Ocho, I think that is the thing.

They're comparing him in this elite category, elite, which is guys that have won multiple MVPs. It ain't that many quarterbacks that's won two.
What is it?

Uninas, Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Favre, Montana, Young, Warner, Mahomes. It's nine.
Lamar makes 10.

Yeah. He's the only one that's never been to a Super Bowl.
Now, if he doesn't get to a Super Bowl, what are they going to say, Ocho?

honest be honest you know what they're gonna say oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we we we know what they're gonna say we know we know what they're gonna say but i i listen huh i know what they're gonna say but i know what my eyes and seen all the ears i've seen play i let me do you one better

they say guys that got super bowl rings at the receiver position better than ocho because ocho ain't got no rings

But you run circles around them on the field. You see how they did? You see how they did? You see? You see how they did did that

yeah I got you I got listen I'm with you when you're right now picking up what you put down

yeah

so now so just imagine they do that for the receiver so imagine if a quarterback that's what I said oh yeah it's even it's even it's even worse it's even worse now it is I hate that it's like that I hate that it's like that it's it's somewhat of an unwritten rule just like the unwritten rule of hockey when it comes to fighting just like the unwritten rule unwritten rule in baseball like I understand it I hate that it's like that hey ring culture when it comes to talking basketball, lump.

It matters. Nobody says that.
It just does. Yeah, it matters, but that's just the way it is.
But I mean, listen,

it is what it is.

I think

with the way, obviously,

they didn't have a good year, a good start to the year.

They still could come. Oh, you touched the Ravens.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think they're going to win the division. I think they're going to get a home game.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I think they're going to win the house.

What you think we're going to do?

So

I think you're going to do nothing.

Hold on, hold on. I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what.

I'm very serious tonight. I'm very serious tonight.
But I'll tell you this. I will give you guys a division.

If we lose to the Steelers, which I doubt we do, if we lose to the Steelers, I say you guys are probably going to win the division at that point.

But if we go in there and we beat the Steelers, that momentum,

I'll tell you what, that momentum, the rest of the season, is going to be hell. I don't give two.
You know what? Two dropped a dried-up pigeon. You know what? On concrete, how bad our defense is.

That momentum offensively,

man,

man. Listen, man.

I don't know.

It's going to be tough. Now,

if we lose to the Steelers, I mean, that's it. It's a wrap.
Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean,

our season is over. Yeah, and so

that's the thing. Because, you know, you look at Lamar, and

it's tough because in his era,

he got Mahomes.

There are a lot of people that's going to get overlooked, just like they got overlooked. Ben didn't get the credit that he deserves.
Drew Brees didn't get the credit that they deserve because why?

They played in the era with SmackDab, with Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady.

And you're talking about guys that got

eight regular season MVPs and 10.

No, hell no.

Tom is nine and 12 Super Bowl appearances with nine wins.

Yeah.

That's crazy, man.

He's so crazy.

And

you know what's so funny, too?

Is we've been spoiled. We've been spoiled by the Peyton Mannings and

the Tom Brady's and the Patrick Mahomes and the Joe Montana. And people don't understand how difficult the Aaron Rodgers, the Brett Ford, they don't understand.
Bryn Rodin, all these quarterbacks, and

it's 32 teams, huh?

It's 32 teams, and it's only a handful of quarterbacks in each hand. Yeah.

Almost over 30 years that are tier one quarterbacks. Yeah.

That just lets people know how difficult that position is and how special those are that are in those conversations that we're talking about.

And the fact that Lamar's name is in those conversations and winning two MVPs and those unwritten rules kind of give you like a,

he's not really there yet until he does this

so he got it he got to get there i'm not sure when it's gonna happen but it's gonna happen before his career yes my bad tom has 10 super bowl appearances

god damn he has 10

oh that's crap

lost to eli twice and lost to a nick foes

yes On the trick. Yeah, yeah, the Philly special.
Yeah.

Yeah, the Philly special.

Oh, Joe. Now, here's the next five.
They had Lamar number one, had Jordan Love number two, Justin Herbert number three, Dak Prescott, number four, Trevor Lawrence, number five.

Now, Trevor Lawrence needs to be where Lamar is. I'm going to put Lamar down there.
If you're going to put you put Lamar on this list, I'm going to put him down at five.

Right. Man, Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, man.

I don't think Justin Herbert's overrated.

Let's see now that he has

Jim Harbaugh. The one thing we know about Jim Harbaugh?

Yeah.

He gonna win.

They're gonna play like stand out defense, and

he's gonna get to a Super Bowl. I'm not gonna say it's gonna be this year.

Yeah. But he definitely gonna get there.
He's getting there.

Listen. And the way Justin Herbert is playing this year too,

man, Justin Herbert is throwing that phone. Absolutely.

Hey, hey

quenton john it is quenton johnston quinston quentin quenten johnston

man young bull young bull got his confidence playing extremely well ledarius mcconkey

playing extremely well keenan allen that veteran presence in that locker room playing extremely well so there really

are no the second yeah now i forgot about a ronde gas in the second catching the hell of that ball being a marion hampton i think he's coming back he's coming back on the back end of the season.

I think he's going to be back

off of injury.

They're going to make a nice little run. They're going to make a nice little run.
They absolutely will.

Jordan Love, Jordan Love's going to have to, he's going to have to get better, man.

Jordan Love gonna have to be better. I don't know if somebody doesn't gotten his ear and talk about, bro, you got to push the ball down the field, man.

You make too much money. You make too much money to be missing these throws.
And I'm not saying you're going to make every, you're not going to make every throw. I get that.

I understand and i'm not trying to minimize playing that position because that's a position i couldn't play

very difficult but come on bro that's why they play the more you get paid the more expected the more expectation and a burden that is placed on you that's just the that's just the rules of engagement

hey can you imagine uh can you imagine being responsible not only for a team but playing the most important position on the field the ball is in your hands the most they paying you 50 55 million dollars a year.

Matter of fact, forget a year. They paying you 50-55 million dollars in six months.

Six months. And I need you to carry this franchise.
Yeah. Go ahead.

Man, you talk about pressure. I know it's a game of football.
It's what we all done since we were four years old. But man,

man.

Yeah. But look,

I'm with you, Ocho. I believe Lamar Jackson is going to get to a Super Bowl.
And once he gets there and he wins it,

it's over. Hey,

get that monkey off my back so I can go play freely, please. Thank you.
You see, think about it. I'll give you a prime example.
LeBron James had two MVPs, but he had never hadn't gotten to the finals.

He had two, lost two.

And then all of a sudden he

won.

And got that monkey off his back.

Yeah. It was a rap.
Problem is, you must ride and let Lamar get this thing, get the monkey off his back. He might get the, might double you up.
Go back to back, Jack.

Yeah. Hey,

I got one question, too. Now that, now that we're talking about those unwritten rules, especially in these conversations when it comes to quarterbacks and MVPs,

it was just so my

well, well, it's kind of different because Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurst has a Super Bowl MVP in a ring, so he's not in that conversation. No,

okay.

These are only guys in the Super Bowl

that has at least two regular season MVPs. Right.
Okay. Okay.
There are nine guys. Lamar make the 10th.
Lamar is the only one that hasn't appeared any Super Bowl.

Right. Okay.
And think about it.

Peyton Manning never went back to back. Tom and Tom, Joe, and Mahomes are the only ones to go back to back of the group.
Right.

Peyton didn't go to back-to-back Super Bowls.

Yeah.

Kurt didn't. Kurt went 99.
We won 2000. They went in 2001.
And then he went again with Arizona, I think, in

what was that, 2008?

I think it was 2008.

Because 2009 was New Orleans, 2000, what you call them. Because seven was the Giants, eight was the

Steelers, nine,

nine was, yeah, nine was New Orleans, ten was the Giants again.

Yeah, 11 was the Packers. 2008 season.
Yeah.

Yeah.

11 was the Packers. 12 were the Seahawks.

All right.

Oh, my man. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm just, you know, just

going.

But like I said, Ocho, once he gets that monkey off his back, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, you're going to be fine.

And that shit hard, but no.

I'm going to let's go. We've been on this thing about 30 minutes.
No, because you know why it's hard? Because they say there's nothing like a game seven. Well, in the NFL,

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Every game,

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Conference final, game seven. Super Bowl, game seven.
Football, you play a game seven every time you step on the field in the playoffs and football. Matter of fact, four weeks.
Yes.

Four weeks of game seven. Yes.
And you got to muster it up and play your best football.

You got to play your best.

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We got a very special guest joining us. We got Texans all-world cornerback.
Man, he had an unbelievable one-handed interception that really started to come back.

They came back from 19 down in the fourth quarter to win the ball game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, a division opponent.

Here he is, a Pro Bowler, all-pro three picks this season, including one against Trevor Lawrence. Here he is, Derek Stingley Jr.

Sting, what's going on, bro? So much, man. Having a beer.
What's up? Man, thank you for joining us, man. We really, really appreciate that.
Go ahead, Ocho.

What's good? What's up? What's up?

You good?

Okay. I like that energy.
I like that energy. I see you in the offseason.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You got to run.

Bro, watching you play, and I think the thing is about any great corner, the one thing that they all have is patience. They ain't really biting that first move.
Look, bro, all that head stuff.

Let me ask you a question. What are you looking at? You looking at his breastplate? You looking at his hips? Because all this head doing all this and all that right there.

And these hips still coming straight at me. So

when you lock in and you're playing press coverage, what are you watching? Oh, I'm looking more at the mid-thigh, the back leg. Okay.

Like I start low, so then when your eyes go up a little bit, I end up around the hips and try to stay in that range right there.

Yeah.

How did you learn to be patient? Because a lot of times, you know, these receivers are really good at round running, getting in and out of breaks.

And I think the thing is that you can't be overreactive, always biting the first move.

Now, you know, sometimes they sometimes they really are running a go, and sometimes they're gonna run, you know, they're trying to run you off and do this comeback or do this dig or do this over out.

So, so, how are you playing?

I mean, obviously, you study tape, you see formation, you're like, Okay, you think y'all slick, y'all think y'all got a three by one, you think you're gonna fool me with this split, man.

Get out of here, yeah. I mean, it's really because I mean, I'm also fast.

No, but I feel like people don't think that that i'm fast but like i don't they don't think you're fast but i i can run with pretty much anybody um so knowing that in my mind like you're not going to run away from me so i can play like low hip most of the time i can

and we get down the field a quarterback you know all quarterbacks don't throw accurate beat passes so you know

i can look back at a certain time knowing that the ball sometimes will be underthrown or inside or something like that, then it's just go make a play off of that.

And you know, you ain't gonna have much time to throw it. Y'all got those two edge guys coming off the edge, so you like, hey, I ain't gotta, I ain't gotta come along.
Yeah, and that's every snap.

Like, they, they, and it's not even just them, like, it's the whole, like, the interior. Like, they

got rankings, you got those guys, yeah, they pushing up the middle, and then you got the two on the outside, and then they all rotate. So, like, we got three people deep in every position on the line.

So every snap.

But

you one of the few, obviously,

I'm an enthusiast when it comes to some of the better DBs, just DB play in general, you know, and

being able to watch all and study a game and study how you guys play. You have tremendous patience.
You have tremendous patience, similar to

like Darrell Revis in a sense. You're very good in bump and run.

Watching film, you can tell you watch film a lot and you understand the tendencies and what's coming and what's not.

and your ball skills are second to none your ball skills are second to none because you're one of the few few dbs that when when the ball is in the air you actually look back for it and you don't panic most of the time you you already know most of the time everybody always panic wants the ball in the air and what the first thing you do you pull your tug and you get a flag thrown But your ball skills, man, is elite.

You know, I haven't had a chance to give you your flowers, but just now I got a chance to, but you wanted the best. You know, we talk about top

You right up there. So it depends on who you, who you like, based on preferences.

You and Brother P2 down there and

I appreciate you, man. I appreciate that.
Yes, sir. Hey, D.
Sting, what's up, bro?

Hey, tell me some. What have you learned from your father, your grandfather, coaching and mentorship? you know, as you came into this league?

What have they taught you kind of growing up? Well, my dad, so, you know, he, well, he coached in the arena football league for a long time. He played in the arena.

And since I was a little kid, like as far back as I can remember,

I'm doing DB drills with like his players

and like with full pass on as a little kid or

like running routes against his DBs as a little kid, like double moves or, you know, whatever.

like that. So being in that type of environment, it kind of taught me for one, like the brotherhood that goes along with a, with a football team, because one, they was,

they was,

I guess you could say, like, they was

those older figures that I saw as like superstars. Like, it was just like a, like a family environment.

Right. And so that taught me brotherhood.
And then, and then like seeing them go out there and play.

um together knowing that they was close like off the field um whether that was dealing with me or you know, doing their own thing or whatever.

And then for my dad, like, well, then, and then adding on to that, like, my dad, he taught me how to

deal with like energy levels on the, on the field. So,

you know, what you'll say, you know, big talker.

He tried to, he's getting, you try to get in your hands, Dane. Oh, yeah, you know, like, he'll talk and he'll do all that.

But me, personally, like, if I make a good play, like, you probably won't see me do anything like like whether if it's like pbu or something like that like i'll just walk off because for one i'd be tired so like i don't have

to do that and then like um and some if something is too bad then you know like it's on to the next play and i feel like as as a defensive player um

like that's that's just how you got to live life and well and it's really like that for offense too like like a receiver tight end like like you drop the ball like drop a pass you got to move like you act like you can't think about it because then you start thinking about catching the football you're gonna keep on dropping the rest of them

so right you know like stuff like that like just regulating emotions and and you know still playing with a passion and being fierce with it but

everybody don't need to know that like

like you if you want to try to play me on the field i just show you by just playing the game like i don't need i don't need to talk because i don't know how to talk

oh you don't talk he said what

i said you you don't talk. So, if somebody started yapping, oh, yeah, oh, I'm about to, oh, I'm about to get this one today.
I'm about to get me 100 today. Got to get me about a couple tubs.

I'll probably just look. Well, because I don't know how to talk, trash talk.
So, like, I'll just look and I'll either laugh or I'll just be like,

Okay, like, all right. Like,

hey, hey, oh no, hey, hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe, I'm gonna get it out of him. Oh, yeah, oh, hey, I'm gonna get it out of the way.

He's like, man, what you doing? So, you about to smell the deodorant. Touchdown, that's what I'm doing.
that's what I'm doing. Don't worry about it.

Hey, hey, hey, DC telling y'all, look, that's gonna motivate him. He ain't gotta say nothing, yeah, but he's gonna be like, Okay, right, like

it's acquired confidence, bro. I don't know.
Like, it's not, it doesn't matter who it is. Like, like, Ocho said, like, I know you

say that you'll be able to get me to talk on the field, but I

honestly will look at you crazy, and you're gonna, you're gonna be like, What? Like, is something wrong with him? Like, like, why is he not talking? No, no, no, no, no.

Nah, I'm gonna get me that work. I'm listening.
I'm not gonna talk on the field. I'm gonna talk during the play.
I'm gonna talk during the route. Like, I'm different, Sting.

Like, I'm different. Gotta let him know, Ocho.
We gotta let you know, Sting. Hey, the whole time.
You got two quiet dudes versus two talkers.

Hey, that first down.

That first down on you. First down.

Hey, hey, Sting. Hey, hey, hey, you know what they hit me with? Hey, every time I catch a ball, let me hit him with their own thing.
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't.
Hey, hey, Ojo. That don't affect.

affect i don't do that so that don't affect you no yeah yeah you're right you're right you're right i'm saying like you don't my mind is like this is a still like just i don't know cage or whatever like

yeah

but i tell you what y'all do do you let when you got the interception y'all ran to the end zone so i give me a touchdown i'm calling on my teammate come on let go to the end zone let go ocho let go look yeah hey sting you know hey hey sting you know you know who sting remind me of too hundred and that's the way he carries himself and he's always

even killed no matter what it's really hard to get him out of character andre johnson yeah exactly the same don't talk yeah dre don't say nothing no at all at all

sting let me ask you a question who do you kind of pattern your game after because i mean like you kind of built like like revised but i mean there's charles woodson there's rod woodson there's time then there's rebas there's daryl green there's a niels williams there have been a lot of great corners like so did you study film when you watch it like okay this is the direction i'm going in and i think this is what i'm going to be at in college this is what i'm going to be at the next level who do you kind of pattern your game after is there any similarities that you see between yourself and anybody that i mentioned maybe somebody did yeah nobody that you mentioned but i've always it's always been temp bailey for me uh

okay he's always the you know he gets the ball he's locked down he he's interchangeable if he needs to go play somewhere else like in a different position he could do it like just because he know the know the defenses or know football

yeah. He's always been any war number 24, like that, yeah.
That's he's always been the first

guy. So, you like you like because I measure corners, and then there's not a knock on the corners that don't, but I like to see you get frequent flying miles.
I like to see you travel.

I mean, if you got a bad dude and he only normally he the X, I'm going there. If he the Z, I'm falling there.
If he in the slot, I'm gonna fall in there.

If he in the backfield, I'm lining up like a linebacker, wherever you go, just know I'm gonna be there.

I mean, and that

that's a part of it. Like, like, that's a, that's a mindset.
Like,

I just want to cover the best. Like, if you're allowed to do it, you're allowed to do it.

If you're not allowed to do it, then, you know, the people that aren't allowed to do it, I guarantee they wish that they can do it. Like, so that's something that you can't knock somebody for.

I don't. No, no, no, no.
Some people just like they got their defenses and you play left, he played right, whatever the case. And that's how it was with Revis and Crow.

Normally, Revis and Crow, they stayed.

crow stayed on one side re stayed on the other side and so wherever you went sherman and and when they was in seattle he was on one side and and brandon browner was on the other side um

so let me ask you a question you got the big contract and you know what comes along with big contracts even more expectations you've gone to the pro bowl you've been an all-pro what are the expectations that sting puts on himself damn the outside pressure what you put on yourself oh well really on myself like it's more about like like technique like it's sometimes like like well we kind of mentioned earlier um

patience we was talking about patience right so sometimes well and then you also said like like kind of falling for the first move or wanting to react to the first move like like yes like people know i'm a pest a patient defensive back at the line of scrimmage So I'll get harder moves, like first steps, thinking that, okay, yeah, they're going.

Like, you know, it's just a game within the game.

Yeah. So I'm hard on myself, like, trying to make sure that I'm sticking true to who I am and controlling,

controlling the game myself, not being reactive, but like, like, you know, like controlling the game.

And then another thing is, like, yeah, I got all the picks, the ball skills, whatever, with the woo, but.

Like, I've said this before, like last year, I had however many I had, like, interceptions, I could have had double that. Same thing for right now.

Like, I got however many I have right now, I should have double that.

Like, and those are the type of things that bubble me because I know my pops is sitting in the stand somewhere, just like mad at me, like, like frowning or something.

And I, I can feel them, like, like, just

being mad at me. So,

but I'm also mad too. So, you know, like, those, those are the, the main things for me because, you know, like, I know how to catch a football.
So, like, why am I not catching a pass on this or

that? Or why is this person getting like an inch of separation when they're, when they're not supposed to? Like, like, you know, like stuff like that. Like, normal.

I mean, I feel like that's normal, like, football stuff. Like, whatever.

Let me ask you this. Do you think we're going to see somebody? Dick Night Train Lane, his rookie season, he had 14 picks.
I think in 1980, Lester Hayes

had 13 picks. And we haven't seen anybody.
We've seen a 10. You saw, we just saw.
Hayes had 11.

he had 10, and we've seen a lot of 10. Champ Bailey one year had 10, but we really haven't seen somebody get that 12, 13 to really challenge that 14.

We do have an extra game now, and I think uh, train got here. They have us having 12 games, I think, if I'm not mistaken.
Could have been, I think it was 12 games,

night train who digs diggs had 11. Do you think we'll see somebody ever get 15 picks in a season? 15.

I mean, you could, you could.

like if like let's say uh what's his name uh something hall uh he played for the for washington for for

uh uh uh

yeah he he had four and one game so like I feel like if somebody yeah if somebody or or this was either last year or two years ago uh Darius Slate going against uh Justin Jefferson and I think he had two or my yeah I think he had two but he could have had like six eight games so like those type of games where

you just catch all the ones. You're supposed to catch.
Yeah, you got to catch all the ones. And then just play like your normal game.
Like, you know, you get one every nine and then or whatever.

Then I think it's possible. But if you don't.

I think it's going to probably come from a, it's probably going to come from a safety. Somebody that's roaming.

But you're right, because normally they targeted. But once he starts catching them, they start going away from it.
Yeah, but you know, you got to.

You're covering the best receiver.

They got to throw him the ball.

Oh, they're going to feed him now.

But then they're going to start, they're going to start stacking him, start running you, start running you off picks and everything, and doing all that other stuff, try to run a bunch of shallow crawls.

Then they're going to whip you, they're going to start him in hard, do Zarro, do everything to try to get you off his tail. It's still opportunities, though.
Like, regardless.

They're going to be there, regardless of whether they try to hide the receiver or not. Like, if you're on them, you're on them.
So

that's the opportunity right there.

Hey, right now, look, we know they only take seven teams to the playoffs. Right now, you guys guys are four and five, and you're third in your own, and you're third in your own division.

You lost a couple of games that you're looking at. I mean, I'm sure when you went back and watched the film, like that team shouldn't have beat us.
That team should not have beat us.

What are you guys going to do? You're four and nine, four and five with eight games to play.

What do you guys need to do to position yourselves to make sure if you're not challenging for the division, you get one of those remaining three playoff spots?

Well, I mean, you know, going into every week, you wash away the week before and you don't look past the week that you're on.

But one of the things that

my position coach Dino,

he always says just

do your job. Like, like, do take care of what you got to take care of.
And then, like, don't go out there chasing plays. Don't go out there like, like, just doing your own thing.

Like, just do what you're supposed to do. And then if everybody do that, then, you know, the result will be what you would want it to be.

um so i think everybody just got to do that so uh and that's that's with every sport that's with every job that's with life that's with everything just do what you're supposed to do and then you know

the result still comes

well where you're gonna get some opportunities to get some picks you got uh the titans coming up you got calvin ridlet buffalo they got a bunch of guys and then the colts they got pears and pittman jr and then you got the chiefs you got worthy and you got rashie rice and you got juju so you're gonna get some and then you got the cardinals marvin harrison jr the chargers got what they got so you got some opportunities so i'm expecting we have this conversation again in about about eight weeks i'm gonna be looking like okay

i mean last i talked to you you had three now i need to see about six or seven we talk again easy yeah yeah i mean i mean you know it is what it is

i don't know like

No, it is.

I need six or seven. I mean,

hey, hey, these things stay locked in.

Don't let them try to have you out here trying to jump on everything.

Yeah, stay locked in, bro. Hey, A Stinger, I got one more question.
I got one more question.

A lot of times, especially when a player is active, they're in their prime. They're playing extremely well, and they play DB.

They never get an opportunity to give receivers their flowers or receivers that really...

Not saying beat them, but you got to really be on your A game.

You got to dot your I's and cross your T's when you're playing against a certain person that really have you out there thinking, you know, you got to bring your A game.

Is there anybody that comes to mind for you since you've been in the league where you just know, okay, when I'm playing so-and-so,

I got to be on the oh, well, yeah, since I've been there, yeah, yeah, it's a, actually, it's a lot of people because

we're in the NFL, like everybody's

right, right. But

I've always said Garrett Wilson with the, with the Jets, like he, like, I remember the first time I went against him, we was at some, like, we was at some high school camp.

It was an opening or something like that.

Ryan Clark was actually my coach.

Yeah.

Gary, he ran like a slant rock or whatever with the woo.

And I'm playing like a deep third or something.

And the ball is thrown so high.

And I'm like 20 yards behind, or like 15, 20 yards behind him. I'm thinking the ball coming right to me.

He jumps up so high. Like he jumps up so high, catches the ball, just running.

And I'm just looking at you like, yeah that's but but since i've been in the league like yeah going against him i think i played against him uh like twice already um right and he yeah i mean he's he's nice like he he nice and then but it's a lot of people it's so many people i can't even devontae adams always um yeah tyree

uh Mike Evans. Nobody talked about Mike Evans for some strange reason.
Like, like he,

he's Mike Evans. Like,

I don't know. But it's, it's a lot of people.
I can't think of everybody, but yeah. Right.

Derek, you and your dad, Derek Sr. run Cover One Elite.
Tell us about that. What is Cover One Elite?

So it's really just like a DB camp.

Like a couple years. Well, we went to Hawaii for a couple years, get some people all throughout the league.

Whether it's people I played in college with or

just know like throughout the league.

So they'll go down there last year. We had it in Puerto Rico.
Um, actually, we were just talking about it. Like, maybe we can get this in Greece next year, like, you know, like, just

what about safety? Y'all invite, y'all invite 57 of your own safety? I mean, hey, look, it don't matter if you want to come, you just know you're going to work.

But

if you want to come, you're going to have to work. Like, it ain't like you ain't getting your free trip.
Like,

right.

Damn, I thought I was gonna be able to go to Mikonos or Santorini, you know, get some olive oil, ocho, some cheese. Damn.

Look, you can work. All right.
So the way the way it's set up is we normally go out there for like, I think it's like five days or something or six days.

The first day, travel day. Next day, work day.
Then you're off the next day. Then you got another work day.
Then you're off the next. So, you know, you can do whatever.

Oh, okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. You can do your business is your business.
Oh,

and then

I ain't really no cover safety, though.

You know what I'm saying?

They call me graveyard. Cause when I leave the field, the body is everywhere.
So, you know what I'm saying?

All I want you to do is funnel it to me. Hey, Sting, just funnel it to me.
Don't even worry about it. Hey, don't even worry about that slant.
I got that.

I got that. We got safety.
We got linebackers. I'll put that suit bone up.

We bring like four linebackers or two to four linebackers, safeties.

It's everybody. So come on.

I like that.

I like that. That's some son.

You got to look. You got to look.
You was on that 2019 national championship team. That great team.
Probably the greatest team. One of the greatest teams ever assembled in college.

Arguably one of the greatest.

You can make a case it's the greatest offensive team.

But what you guys were able to do, you, Joe, Joe Burrow was the quarterback and Jetta and Chase and Marshall and Thad Moss and Clyde Edwards-Alair and all those great offensive linemen, the DBs like yourself.

They fired Brian Kelly.

How do you guys get back to something similar to that where LSU, that alums and everybody and boosters are proud to show up to Death Valley and know we cutting somebody ass tonight?

Well, honestly, I mean, it really just comes down to whoever they bring in, whoever,

it doesn't matter who they bring in, like as long as the players, like they really buy in to being at LSU, like, you know,

you can go to a certain school. You can, you can be from here and be from there.

But once you get to where you're at, like, you got to know what the goal is in mind. Like, yeah, you're at this university.
Yeah, you're doing all this and that.

But the goal should be to get to the next level. So

once everybody come get into tune with that, like, and really break down, like, how can we be great? Like, that's, that's what it's going to take.

So I don't think it mattered like who, who it is or what it takes.

I'm just saying from the coach's standpoint,

that doesn't matter.

The players buying into themselves first and then the coach just adding on to that.

Because you got great facilities, tremendous fan base. Stadium is electric.
Death Valley at night. There's nothing like playing in Death Valley at night.

Man, that's Derek Stingley Jr., the great all-pro cornerback from the Houston, Texas. D.
Sting, thanks for some time tonight, man. Appreciate that.
Continue success. Stay healthy.

Look, when we talk to you in January, I'm going to be looking at the stats because I know you got three now. I'm like, okay.
Hey, Ocho, we got to call him back up. You done got seven.
Oh, yeah.

I appreciate y'all, though.

Appreciate you, man. Congratulations on all the success.
Continued success. We'll see you down the road, bro.
All right, bro.

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