Best of NFL News Part 2: Does Jameis Winston DESERVES start over Russell Wilson? + Shannon Sharpe APOLOGIZES to Daron Payne After Wrongly BLAMING Him for St. Brown Fight

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Ojo, guys. Gonna finally get a start.
Giants interim head coach Mike Kafka revealed that Jameis Winston,

Russell Wilson, will start as quarterback in week 11 against the Packers with Jackson Dart on the sideline.

Man, pass over Russ, who was the start of the season, then went to number two. Yes.
Dart gets hurt. Russ goes to number.
He's numbers two still. Yes.
Jameis leapfrogs him. Ocho,

what do you think about this?

I think the coaches, obviously, the interim coaches trying to get a spark out of the offense.

They've seen enough,

I'm assuming, from Russell Wilson being the starter when Jackson Dart went in, and then hearing the reaction from the crowd and the offense really not being able to

get going.

They want something new. They want to see what

Jameis Winston.

can get in there and do and see if they can have you know somewhat of a spark we all know he is one that's liked by everybody and he he can have flashes of brilliance on the field the only thing with jameis winson all we need is a little consistency can we consistency out of you week in and week out and give us a chance listen i think our playoff their playoff chances are probably out the door but can you keep it keep our keep us a keep our team and head above water and let us compete you know until the end of the season well i'm sure jack will come back what maybe what in two weeks uh

Probably so.

I mean, he's going to, well, he's out this week.

Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe they missed, Maybe give him two weeks, Ocho.

Because, like I said, since the preseason, this is the fourth time.

We know he's been checked for a concussion.

Go ahead, Joe.

So this is Jameson's first time

getting action during the season.

Yeah, this is Jameis' first time starting for the Giants.

He played a little bit. He played, I think, one preseason game.
He played in one preseason game, played really well.

But like Ocho said, Jameis' problem has always been consistency. Consistency.
Look, he's the number one pick in the draft. He won the Heisman Trophy as a freshman.

He led his team to a national championship. So we know he has the talent to play, but he's been turnover prone far too much.

We saw last year he threw for almost 500 yards, but it was the turnovers that really that really cost his team a victory. Right, right.
Tremendous highs. Incredible lows.

So he just has to find a way to be consistent. And if he can be consistent, that gives him a chance to be successful, and it also gives his chance his team a chance to be successful.
But uh, I'm, I

want to say I'm surprised, but I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't think I am. I don't think I'm surprised by this move.
Because

hey, I know one thing, I know one thing about this move, it's gonna be exciting because ain't no telling what the hell is gonna happen. You know, anytime James is in there, ain't no telling.

And I can't, I can't wait to see five and five, Ocho. Ain't not some way got the five five and five? Yeah, nah.
Five touchdowns, five and a seven.

And what I was talking about when you left, I said, if he just, if he's just consistent, ocho, the man is the number one pick in the draft for a reason. He won a Heisman trophy.

Let his team go a national champion. You can throw that ball, boy.
Yes.

You can't turn it over, though, Ocho.

You're never going to be that great that you can overcome the amount of turnovers that he has. Remember last year, Ocho, what was that? A Thursday night game against the Broncos.

He threw for damn near 500.

But but it was the pick six. It was the three turnovers that ended up undoing the great job that he had done.
Remember, Jerry Judy goes back, has 235 yards receiving. He and Jameis was cutting up.

Yeah. And then Jameis,

they started housing him. Yeah.

Oh, Joe,

the last guy we had on KC Conception, and there are some people in the chat kind of making fun of him. They're like, man, let everybody else talk.
In a situation like that,

I had already gotten briefed that he has a speech impediment.

And when he gets nervous or he gets anxious, he stutters, stutters. So that's why you heard him repeat himself a lot.

But if you notice, Ocho, when we first started, he gave us one-word answers and go.

And so instead of going, let you ask him something, let Joe ask something, I said, let me get him comfortable.

Let me get him relaxed. Once he gets relaxed, he'll slow down.
He'll feel more comfortable. Because right every time he talks, he thinks people are judging him.

So if you think somebody's judging him, what you're going going to do? I'm not going to talk on be recluse.

I'm going to say as little as possible. Yeah, you're right.
And then he's going to clam up.

But if you notice, once we got him comfortable, we started talking about cooking, we started talking about things that he likes and he feels comfortable with.

You see, I open up and you couldn't even tell.

So that's why I kind of took the approach that I took. And a lot of times, yeah.
Sometimes I'll let Ocho, because if it's somebody that like I know Ocho knows, I'll let Ocho lead it off.

But in this situation, I i just felt instead of going back ping pong you know tennis and ping pong back and forth

i just felt let me start it let me get him comfortable somebody that had a speech impediment still talks with a list have a heavy cloakal southern dialect let me make him comfortable and if we can get him comfortable we can get him to open up because it's hard to have an interview if a guy just continuously gives us one-word answers so that's kind of why the approach that we took the approach that we took tonight with this gentleman but he did great look forward for him to coming back and once we started started talking about, hey, he started cooking Valentine's Day.

And I said, bro, I just hope you got done what you needed to get done before you cooked that.

You put them heavy potatoes and steak of the system.

She's going right to sleep.

But I'm not,

I can't say that I'm surprised that Jameis is getting the start because you know why?

Russ is not going to be there next year. They've already seen what Russ can do.

Let's see if Jameis can give us that spark. Because that's what Jackson Dart did.
Jackson Dart came in and gave him a spark, Ocho. Yeah, yeah.

Now, let's see. Let's see, because they saw Russ come in and the offense just went in the tank.
The defense went in the tank. Everything just went to hell in a handbasket.

Listen, let's see if Jameis can give us a spark like he's done so many times before. He did it in New Orleans for a while.
He did it in Cleveland last year. So let's see if he can give us a spark.

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Ojo, Eagles quarterback Jaihir Alexander has stepped away from football and winning retirement as according to Diana Rossini.

Alexander is 28 in his eighth professional season and is first away from the Packers, the team that drafted him 18th out of Louisville in 2018. On November 1st, the Ravens traded Alexander

and a 2027 seventh-round pick to the Eagles for a 2026 sixth round pick. Alexander played just two games for Baltimore before being moved, tallying five tackles.
Ocho,

what's going on?

Is it injuries? Is it desire?

What do you think? Combination?

I don't know.

I don't know. I'm going to be honest with you.
When it comes to someone

that I've always enjoyed watching, like Jair Alexander, understanding what he brings to the table as a defender, obviously, I think injuries have hampered his career a little bit.

It does.

And kind of derailed everything.

So I don't know what's going on with him mentally, but it has to be something of that nature because getting the opportunity to play in the NFL and understanding that NFL stands for not for long.

You only get so much time, you know, and each year is so precious as the years go by.

It has to be something going wrong there.

Maybe it's personal, whatever it may be.

I don't want to speculate. But if he needs to step away from the game to get his mind right, to get his personal issues right, then so be it.
I see see that fit because that does come first.

Football comes second to whatever you have going on in your life. So I hope he rectifies that situation expeditiously so he can get back on the field and we can get that same J.

Alexander we once saw down in Green Bay because he's a great talent. He's a great talent and a great fit for where he is now.
So

I hope he comes back at some point and is able to contribute defensively when those boys make that playoff push. What year? What year? What year is this for him? How many years has it it been?

Eight, eight.

Yeah, and you know. He's only 28 years of age.
Hey, DBs play a long time, Joe. They can play a long time.

If,

if,

um, you got to. The thing is, as you start to get older, it's a, it's a mental grind because you know stuff.
I mean, you know, you know, coverages and you know, you know how to study film.

You understand down and distance. You understand a position on the field.

You understand, you know, you know, you understand tendencies.

route combinations, wide receiver, how they line up, Ocho. So you know all of that.

But boy, this here got to be strong because it gets so monotonous. You hear the same thing.
That's what really, you know, for me, that's what kind of drove me away is that the monotony of it.

I just could,

if maybe if I went to a different offense and I had to apply myself, but

But he's dealing with a knee injury.

Joe, you know this. Ocho, you ain't never been injured.
So, you know, Joe, you know this.

When you're injured, there ain't nothing like, there's nothing worse than being injured and trying to go play and then play at a level that people are accustomed to you playing at. Right.

Because if the mind ain't right, the grind can't be tight. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what the NFL, that's what pro sports is.
It's a grind. Yeah.

And if you hear LeBron, LeBron don't ever say anything about his body. He always talks about his mind.
He said, long as I can keep my mind sharp, I can play 23, 24, 25 seasons.

Yeah, because them injuries parallel up, bro.

They parallel. up, and

you can't go out there and be the person who you

know you really want to be because of these injuries, these knickknacks that you may have.

And it hinders your game, man. It hinders your game, and it takes love away.
It takes the love away. It takes the love and passion away.
And that's why a lot of guys retire early or they quit playing.

It's not that they don't like football or basketball because the grind has become too much. Yeah.

Especially if you, oh, Joe, if you're an elite player.

See, if you're if you're a special teams player or a player that, you know,

you're the fourth corner,

they ain't no expectations.

But see, once you're here, like a Penny Hardaway,

we got, we got Penny up here. Like, man, I can't, man, I can't do this.
Yeah.

You, you can't. John Alexander was an all-pro.
He's a Pro Bowl player, Ocho. Yeah.
And he got, and I'm like, oh, Joe, something ain't right. I told you, I said, oh, something ain't right.

You can look at him and tell, I'm like, man, I don't watch this man. I watched this man come into the league.
He's one of the better corners. He looks like a shell of himself.
Yeah.

And when you watch yourself, if you watch yourself on tape, because sometimes you might not know it until you see it. Because we get a lot of times, though, your people, like, I ain't say that.

I ain't say that.

Run the tape. Yeah.

Oh, my goodness. That's me.

I said that?

Yeah.

So you don't see yourself play in real time.

You got to go back and watch the tape and you're looking like.

Man, film don't lie.

At all.

The reason why film don't lie, the film don't know how much money you're making. It don't know if you're black, if you're white, you went to Notre Dame, you went to Savannah State.
That's all it does.

It captures what it's being focused on. Man, what?

And you can't, man, I did this, I did that. Let me hit that rewind button.
Yeah, but tell me which one you did.

Hey, hey.

Oh, Joe, Joe, what did you say? Oh, Joe, what did you say you did? Okay, here we go. Listen.

Let's watch it. Hey, it ain't nothing worse.
It ain't nothing worse.

And after that game, boy, you get it now and coach got that clicker and he rewinding this same play and you and you like, oh, my God. Yeah.
It's not like watching yourself on film, bro.

And you look like some slaughter stir-fry out there. Yes.
Yes. Nothing like that.
Hey, look, I used to be in the game thinking like, well, I cannot look like no trash on film tomorrow.

Said the same thing, Joe. Yeah, okay.
Ain't gonna miss my assignments. Yeah.

We gotta win this game. Because if we lose this game, they're gonna show this film.
Lord, please let us. Hey, John, please make a play.
Let us come back.

Because I don't want nobody to see. Boy,

I was terrible.

Hey, Sharp, what'd you do on this play?

I think I got it. Nothing.

Nothing. That's what Sharp did on this play.
Absolutely, totally nothing. That's what Sharp did.

it's uh but but it's tough it's tough when you've been a a really good player for a period of time and then injuries won't allow you to be that yeah yeah yeah people don't know you're injured let me tell you something else they don't give a damn if you're injured all they know is they see they see alexander on the back of that jersey

They saw Johnson on the back of that jersey. They saw Ocho Sinko on the back of that jersey.
They don't give a damn about you got an ankle or toe or knee or hip or back.

They give a damn about that you out there i'm expecting you to make the same plays that i've seen you make time and time again for the last five ten years make them now yes sir

absolutely right

your teammates have the same expectations

and they put that your teammates put that pressure on you hey you gonna be you go ahead you be good to go sunday right

damn dude it's tuesday

Man, hey, hey, you know, hey. And then the coaches, you know, we're going to put the game plan.
We know we're relying on you because we got you in the game plan.

Y'all didn't have me in the game plan before I got hurt. Now you got me in the game plan.
Now, Ocho. Yeah.

Now I'm in the game plan.

But it is tough. I've been in Jaired's shoes where I've been injured and knowing I'm hurt, but all they see is 84 and they see Sharp on the back of that jersey.
Yep. That's what they see.

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Oh, Joe, you're going to like this story. On his way home from blowing out the bills, Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel drove by uh elbow evo elbow room

elbow room a bar where bills fans congregate when buffalo's in town to troll their fans mcdaniel was asked about it today let's take a listen to what he had to say

or is that real well you know that's the

That's why like the good old days, you know, the throwbacks of your where you could trust, you know, the internet and the images because, you know, that is pretty detailed.

You know, I do live in that area, but I mean

AI, right?

So it doesn't answer the question.

Was that you? So

confirming or did not? I mean, I live in that area. AI is real.

That's what I got for you.

Okay.

I like it. I like it.

Two things can be true. He can live in that area.

Well, three things.

He lives in that area. AI is real.
And that was him.

Yeah.

Hey, which one is it? Do you think it real? Hell yeah, it was him. It's video of him.
It's him.

Is that him right there?

Hey, you heard me? You got it. Hey, listen, I'm looking at it.
You got to be careful, though, because you know AI don't play. Is that

Ocho?

So, so AI put him in a Bentley. They could have put him in any other car.

No, that's a Benz. He driving Benz.
It's a Bentley.

So

they ain't put him in no Hyundai. They ain't put him in no Subaru.
They ain't put him in nothing. They put him in that.
Is that him? Who is that? Hey,

that's funny, though. That's funny.
That's funny.

I like Mike McDaniel, man. You beat a team for the first time in seven meetings.
It's your first time beating them since 2022.

Yes, sir. And that's what you got.

What's the Dolphins record?

Have a little fun, huh?

They're three and seven.

Have a little fun.

Hey, wait a minute.

He's just driving by. That's all.
First of all, I don't know many, most people that are famous, they ain't got their window down so you can see them.

Oh, this is Miami. I know what it is.
I know where he's at. Let me ask you.

Hey, listen. Hey, down here in Miami, even the locals are famous.
You hear me?

Hey,

schedule. Pull up

their first 10 games.

I got some coffee, Uncle. I hit a wall.
I got some coffee. Now, my baby, my baby, done sent me some coffee.
We could be on this bitch at three o'clock in the morning. Now, I'm ready.

We got, uh, we we pull up, we pull up, we pulling,

uh, we pull up the schedule because I want to know. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you one thing.

I can tell you one thing about this schedule, you're getting ready to pull up. If the Dolphins play like they played against the goddamn Bills, we'll run the goddamn Bills.

I'll tell you that.

And I'm very confident with that. I'm very confident.

So let me ask you this.

When they lost 33 to 8 to the Colts, he lived in that area. Did he ride through with the window down?

I would do you like Jasmine Crockett did. It's a yes or no.
My colleagues want me to ask you, it's a yes or no. So when they lost 33 to 8 to the Colts, yes or no?

Did he ride by slow with the window down with his arm out the window?

Well, it was hard to because it was a KD. When they lost to the Patriots at home, 33-7, 33-27, did he do that then? Uh-huh.

Now, that he didn't do it. He didn't do it then?

Yeah, he didn't do it that game. Oh, so what about the Chargers?

Oh, that was another one. Did he do it then?

No, he had to go the other way. Oh, okay.
So he moved. He just moved in this area.
He just moved in this neighborhood. Yeah, he got that lady.
Okay, let me ask you a question. I get it.

when they lost 28 to 6 to miami

did i mean did he drive slow homie did he pull a paw wall did he drive slow homie

or did he pull a wheel spill you know summertime two miles an hour so everybody sees you so much summer summertime hey that's the throwback what you know about that I'm gonna sit back and unwind.

No, I think, but that's a real, that's not his original. I think that's a, uh i think the isley brothers or somebody did that was the original isley brothers or

they got the original they got the they got the uh original earthwind and fire did the uh

might have been earthwind and fire

oh my god

that was

even coaches done got to be petty now because hold on I think

didn't Sean Payton have to have the bus drive through the city? Because that used to be a thing to have the bus driver drive through this drive around the stadium

for real

yeah

hey that's funny yeah

and you know what you know what i do like you don't you don't you don't really get this from coaches sometimes i think

players

hey i know i know his players love this hey i noticed

what was it broad street playing rocky

yeah Sean Payton got that kind of personality too.

Man,

see, this is our kind of stuff I would like, like we beat somebody, but you got to be careful, man. You know how I think, like,

you play the Raiders back when the Raiders was in Oakland?

Oh, no, you ain't doing that. Or when you played them in the Coliseum, these to be the bad people.
No, no.

When they tear your ass up.

They throw a whole car battery through that window. Hold on.
Hey, hold on. Without thinking twice.
Oh, it's cool in the game. Somebody said it's cool in the game.

I think it's called Summer Madness. Yeah, it's cool in the game.
That was cool in the game. Yeah, cool.
Yeah.

Ocho, contrary to what you think, a lot of these songs that's being played that you really, really love is

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But now, look,

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So, A, I'll put you in a

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They ain't making regular black, white, blue, ocho. They got it matted.

Right.

Oh, my God. Hold on.
I need, let me grab my sugar. Man.

Mike said, hey, look, I'm preferred to have me some fun.

We finally got a win after. Hold on, how many losses? We finally got a win.

Well, this is a one, two, three.

They had lost four of the last five.

So, yeah, yeah,

we had to stun on them

but hey

gotta try to have some fun they gotta they got a big game what they have spain they play don't they play the they play the commanders right they play the commanders in spain so

oh yeah i i beat up my i leave uh my flight at eight eight in the morning

hey um hey what's what's

what's splendid splendor you ever heard of that yeah most people have

Yeah,

it's a substitute. Wow, what's up? What's going on?

Nothing. I got my coffee, but they sent my coffee without

putting sugar. I ain't never seen no splinter before.
Most of the time, I just get brown sugar, white sugar. You put brown sugar.
You just say splitter.

Yeah, what? You know, caffeine con leche, latte?

Okay, sure. Yeah.
You say so.

So you ain't got no problem. You ain't got no problem with this.

Oh, hell, no.

You know, I'm, you know, I'm petty. I'm petty anyway.
You know, I'm petty. Even after winning, even listen, and people, people say, oh, y'all got to lose a record.

Well, we didn't lose a night, so I'm going to have some fun.

We didn't lose a night.

And

Mike McDaniel has a personality to be able to get away with it.

Absolutely.

We got new video has emerged. Wait, what happened? Derek Deron Payne punching Amon Ross St.
Brown. Okay.

After this video,

we're going to watch it. We can't show the video.

I'm a firm believer, guy. Y'all know who I am.
Yeah. I was the strongest

and what I thought Deron Payne did was absolutely wrong. Deron Payne reached out to me today on DM, and he was very, very respectful.

And I'm not going to get to the specifics, but basically he was saying, OG, I appreciate you. I love the way you played the game.
Everything that you was able to accomplish. You were great.

He said, but I didn't unprompt, just unload on, oh, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he sent me the video.

Since I was the strongest in

my critique of Deron Payne, let me be the loudest and say, bro, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for... judging you without knowing all the facts because all I know is what what was shown.

Amon Ross St. Brown absolutely hit this man unprompted.
They were in a little shoving back and forth. And then he got a little quick within OJo.
You know how we do a little thing right there.

We look like nobody looking. Ah.

Hey, Uncle Lila Chicken Wing. He gets hit a little bit.
Yes.

Yes. Javon Kidlaw, I owe you an apology too because you said he did hit Deron Payne first.
And we didn't, I didn't believe you. So I want to apologize to you.

But the biggest apology goes to Deron Payne.

And I'm glad you did it because, like my grandma used to say, I might not break i might not stop you but i damn sure break you the habit i guarantee you armin ross saint brown was dead ass wrong deron payne you should have see you don't get to do something to somebody and didn't talk about that was an overreaction keep your hands to yourself you said he told now this is what armin ross st brown said sunday and monday

before the video surfaced and say, yeah, he hit him. Because now he don't have a leg to stand on, Ocho and Joe.
He said, you know, back and forth.

He didn't say nothing too crazy, but he never mentioned the part that he hit Deron Payne in the face first. That never came out of his mouth.
Right. Deron Payne,

I'm sorry, bro. I am so sorry as a man.
I'm never, and I've told you guys, y'all heard me say this on Undisputed. I'm never going to be too big to say, I'm sorry.
I'm never going to be too prideful.

I'm never going to be too wealthy. I'm never going to be anything where I can't say, I'm sorry, I was wrong.
Deron Payne, I was wrong. Yeah.

Hey, you should have caught, you should, I wish you would have knocked his ass out. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Nope. Hey, no, no.
Keep your hands. Keep your hands to yourself.

Your grandma told you that. Your mom told you that.
Joe, I know you heard it because

you from the South.

But people don't really look at Miami like the South. Like we look at, like,

we look at Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, all those states. Go ahead, Ocho.

I understand. You're supposed to keep your hands to yourself.
I understand. Yes.

So what punishment? What punishment? Before you go, Ocho, can I ask the NFL, what punishment are y'all going to levy against Amon Ross St. Brown?

I don't know. I don't know.
But listen, you know the rules. You know the rules.
And they talk about it in meetings. Before season starts about getting angry.

They always see the second person that throws a punch. They always see the second person that shoves every time.
So I'm the Ron Brown is playing a game within the game, understanding, well, hello,

I'm going to chicken wean him, you know, and see if I can get him in trouble real quick. And it worked.

It worked. And he lost his temper, you know? That's the game within the game.
How can I get under somebody's skin to give my team an advantage? Now, it was wrong. Yes, it was wrong.
It was wrong.

I'd be the first to say it. But, you know,

it's tricks of the trade. Now, you say you should have knocked him out.
Now, I don't think that would have happened because they would have had to jump Deron. Now, we don't want that to happen now.

They want to jump. You see, you say nobody grabbing when he slapped five from him.
And the official standing right there. Because, Ocho, here's the thing: you're absolutely right.

The maybe, let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe and Ocho, the official didn't see it.

But just like they replayed it and saw what Deron Payne did, I guarantee you they replayed it and saw what Armin Ross St. Brown did.
Yeah.

Hey, so did they, did they find or suspend uh deron paying they suspended him for one game without pay uh-huh so they so now that they go back and look at the tape what's gonna happen to armon st brown i don't know but something a fine should be levied keep your hands and your feet to yourself if you blocking me i get that

you pancake me and stepping my chest i get that but keep your hands to yourself Yeah, especially on that football field, because I can do anything I want to, and it's not a crime.

They might suspend me, they might throw a penalty, but it's not a crime. Keep your hands to yourself.
I don't know what possessed him to do what he did.

That's a grown man. I don't know if Deron Payne has a wife.
I don't know if he has kids or anything. But keep your hand, my grandma used to always say, Boy, keep your hands and your feet to yourself.

She said, Boy, if somebody put their hands or their feet on him, you do everything you can to try to break them. See, hey, you heard what you just said, right?

Huh? Hey,

hey, Joe, I told you that story.

I told you that story where Ray knocked my helmet off and he in the park.

Hey, hey, boy, you laughing, Joe. Joe, boy, I was in the locker room looking for Ray, boy, and we weren't even playing at home.
We were playing it.

That was two weeks later. You were unconscious.
You don't even remember when y'all were out in the locker room.

Y'all was playing the Bills. Ray played for the Ravens.

Where's Sugar? Hey.

Hey, hey,

I was looking for sugar after that game.

I'm telling you. like, hold on, Joe, I was upset, right? And I'm thinking to myself, hold on.
Now, me and Ray, we pray before the game.

We go over a scripture before every game, whether we played each other or not, you know? Right. We like this.

Your man 100 grand. Yeah, we don't say it a prayer before the game.
And we get in the game. We get in the game.
And now you act like you don't know me. You know me, but we pray.

And you just try to knock my helmet off. Hold on, my helmet went flying by 30 yards, Joe.

I say,

hey, look, Ocho, you know, in between them lines, man. Ain't no friend.
Yeah.

Listen, I ain't. You probably pray.

He don't really knock you out.

Hey. But you got to realize, them guys, defensive players go to a different place, man.

Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, I was in a different place after the game because I was in y'all locker room. Security had to be.
You went about like that long ago. Yeah,

Joe, they had to come get me out of the locker room. Joe, boy, I'm from the wolf on him.
If you hit me, well, you don't that you don't do nothing like that.

But if if we do, Joe, you can't sit there and say a prayer with me we can't read the scripture and then you go out there and try to kill me on the field

do that now he was saying lord forgive me what i'm about to do to ocho lord i know i've come a long way and i'm trying to do better in my life but any sins that i commit on this field today please forgive them oh man

i mean hey joe and the funny thing about it joe is When people ask me who was your favorite team to go against,

it was always the Ravens and the steelers joe because one thing about it i call it a two tin strap game joe you had that you got you had to bring tooth chin strap to that goddamn game joe hey you had to get some sleep the night before they gained you

hey it was joe it was hell

it was hell and i i enjoyed it because you had no choice but to raise your level of play you had no choice but to raise your level play and then you got my crazy ass who talk during the week and give everybody bulletin board material on purpose you know so i mean dog dog that was some of the some of the some of the the joyous times for me during them days on man i i loved it man i loved it i love ray right i mean still to this day man that just being able to being able to see and stay in contact that's why i like social media so much most of the time like you know back in your days you kind of lose touch with everybody unless you go to a certain event

you meet up they make it so much easy joe man it just i don't know

so i don't know if deron paint deron i don't know if you're watching this but i hope you get this I hope you hear it for yourself.

But if somebody, if you don't hear it for yourself, hopefully someone close to you, a family, friend, or loved one, gets you this and let them and tell you Shannon Sharp

did indeed apologize because you were not wrong.

You were wrong for getting caught. You weren't wrong for what you did because everybody keep their hand.
You regrown out here. Ain't nobody,

to my knowledge, I'm in Ross St. Brown ain't got no kids.
And he damn sure ain't got no kids 30, 31 years of age. Keep your hands to yourself.
Treat it like the zoo.

What they tell you, oh, Joe, when you go to the zoo, keep your hands. Hold on.
And the museum.

Don't touch nothing. I tell him again.
As a matter of fact, unless you catch the pass or block it, keep your damn hands in your pocket. Get one of the little fanny pairs, what the

muffs. And put your hand, Walmart, and keep your hands in your pocket.
You walk by?

Because I'm telling you, he did right. Oh, Joe.
But see, the problem that I have is that he lied. and he had everybody believing that he did absolutely nothing until he got caught.

And then I think it was today, he's like, yeah, I kind of nudged him. It don't matter.
You don't get, hold on. You step on my foot.
I say, ow, I ain't even really step on your foot that hard.

You don't get to tell me how hard you stepped on my foot. That's my foot.

These feet made for me to walk on, not you to walk on them.

Yeah. Deron Payne, I'm sorry.
Javon Kenlaw, I'm sorry because you you also came out and said that he did hit him first. I said, man, that man ain't hit that man first.

Ocho, yes, Ocho, what likelihood of a wide receiver going around Sluck? And he did it. It don't matter how hard it was.

It was the mere fact that you did something that you didn't have no business doing, and then he knocked fire from you. And you're talking about, oh,

you know, no, no, Deron, I'm sorry. And they should give you your money back.

Yeah. But I guarantee you, I bet he won't hit another D-lineman in the face.
What you want to bet, Ocho?

I don't know. I don't know.

Okay.

Okay.

Hey, one thing about us receives, we're the most dominant position on the field. You know, whether we got the ball in our hands or not.

I don't know if anybody. There's a saying that says, Ocho,

a lesson with a consequence, an action without consequences, there is no lesson learned.

Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know what I'm saying?

An action without consequences, there is no lesson learned. Yeah.
Nah,

I'm not far from it. Yeah, the NFL is going to come down with something on St.
Brown. Nah, no, they're not.
No, they're not. Man, please.
No, they're not. Hey, listen.

The NFL is already handicapped. The NFL has already handicapped the game a lot.

They've already taken some of the

words. Some of the words.
Some of the character. You know, some of the character away from the game and

what made it fun, what made it exciting. Now, before I keep going, I need you to give me that line one more time.

In actions without consequences, there is no lesson learned.

Hey, Joe, that's a good one, Joe. I'm going to use that one in my name.
Boy, Deron Payne, you did right.

You should have hit him so hard in the top of his head, he peeped out his ribs and thought he was in jail. Hey,

you did right. You ain't.

I ain't getting you no more with Joe. I'm done for tonight.
Wait a minute. Hey, hey, bring that back one more time.
I don't like a DJ.

I say Deron Payne should have hit him so hard in the top of his head, he peep out his ribs and think he's in jail. But then you, you got it, though.
Yeah, yeah.

I might not stop that act, but I bet I break you the habit. Okay.

Who the hell was that?

You done dropped two gems early, but the show just started. Hey, hold on.

Okay, Ocho.

He got up under that helmet, too.

Did you see how far he swung back? Yes, sir.

He swung back from Prince George. Yeah, he got up under there.

That's what, oh, Joe. That's, hey, Joe, that's one of them old, that one of them old cartoon slaps.

You watch a Saturday cartoon? Yeah,

man, he was pissed off.

He couldn't help it.

Absolutely. Absolutely.
So

I don't have any problems. After seeing the video, after having him explain what happened, and he said, oh, gee,

I ain't just swing on no boy he did what he did sent me the video i tapped on it looking at it they look hand fighting and then he tried to get a quick one in yeah look hey little chicken wang i know what he's talking about i used to i used to do it too

And as at a press conference from Michael Pennix Jr. is gone viral, Ocho.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

Uh-oh. Like mentally, like my fiancé, she's always there for me.

So I know whenever I get home, it doesn't matter how I played. She's always going to be there for me.
She's going to have a smile on her face and give me a hug and make me feel

good no matter what.

But as far as, you know, as far as like physically the on-the-field stuff,

it's not nobody that I I'll talk to like as far as another quarterback or anything like that. You know, I do have people reach out to me.
I do have quarterback coaches though back at home

that reach out to me as well, you know, tell me, hey, like, you need to clean this up, clean that up, you know, and everything will be good so uh those those guys helped me as far as that too so i can shout out them

you know you know what i i would love to hear the question that was asked i would love to hear the question that was asked for better context because i'm sure he has quarterback coaches on the sideline he had he has yeah

he has quarterback coaches on the sideline and i'm sure they're talking about the totality of after a game on what it looked like.

I think that that has to be the context of the question because bringing up your fiancé fiancé and no matter how i played when i come home that ain't it you know she's there for me no am i am i wrong

am i wrong if i'm wrong let me know what what do you say what are you saying about his fiancé

oh how how how she said no matter how i played that she's always there for me when i come when i come home Always smiling. But if anything, what's the first thing your fiancé is about to say? Oh, no.

Oh, no, honey. You ain't finna embarrass me like that.
It's supposed to be tough. No, you laughing.
It's supposed to be tough love. It got, if you play bad, she's supposed to be the first one.

Baby, come on, come on, come on, come on, MP. Come on, don't do that.
Now you know you can play better than that.

You know, you have, hey, your uncle, no, don't, don't, don't have one of them wives that know how to break down, that understand the game. It can break it down for you.
Oh, my goodness.

That now you coming home to something like that? Not that old, oh, baby, you played bad. It's okay.
No, honey, it's not okay.

You can't embarrass the family like that you can't do that you can't embarrass the pennic's last name like that now i'm i'm just i'm you i'm just throwing out hypotheticals you know not you coming home and the wife no matter how you play oh it's okay no it's you know tough love is okay sometimes exactly and the best person to hear tough love from is the one closest to you yes

uh i'm so

so they ask him what coaches that he does he rely on

lean on okay

Okay, okay. Yeah, like, who did he, like, okay, Ocho, you're going through a tough time.
Is there somebody that you lean on?

Okay, boom. I like that.
I like that question. Because the first thing, the coaches I would lean on, most of the time, it wouldn't be my coaches in Cincinnati.

If things aren't going right and there's someone I need to lean on, now in game,

Hugh Jackson. In game.

you know alex wood you know some of those coaches that day but if something's going right and i need i need to go back to the foundation on how it was built charles Collins, 1997, when it all started at Santa Monica College, running the sand dunes, the Manhattan Sand dunes back in the day.

Like,

that's what I'm leaning on, huh? That's what I'm going to. That's why when Michael Pinnock said, he mentioned coaches that, okay, with that question, that's what I'm leaning on.

I'm going back where it all started. Hey, Coach C, man, what you see? I don't know what's going on.
You know, I'm doing it. Am I rushing? I'm just whatever it may be.
Because

he can see it from a different point of view than I can. He can see it from a different point of view view than my coaches do.
Come on coaches, they see X's and O's.

Coach C can see something they don't see, even though they're my receiver coaches. And guess what? Coach C, looking out for you.

That receiver coach got five other guys, six other guys that he got to coach.

Yeah, yeah. And the conversation would be.
Absolutely.

They viewing me in a different lens than what he's seeing. That is correct.

So I think people are like, no, that's not what NFL coaches are there. You're You're not going to be able to rely on your coaches.
So I know y'all was surprised that he said that. Well, he can't go.

Nope.

Nope.

Raheem got 50 guys, 60 guys he got to worry about.

That quarterback got that quarterback coach got every. Ain't nobody holding your hand in the NFL.

They're not. So I'm sorry.

I don't want to come off as callous. I don't want to come off as not being empathetic.
But I'm just telling you the sports business. This is a grown man's business.

You get paid a King's Ransom to play a kid's game. They're not holding your hand.
So I understand what he's saying that when you need somebody to lean on.

I'm calling my former coach. I'm going to call my brother.
Mm-hmm.

What do you see?

Am I missing something? I feel I'm leaving plays out there, but I don't know what I'm doing.

Mm-hmm.

Hey, send me a copy.

Let me look at your practice.

Let me see what you look like in the game. Send me the game cut up.
Send me practice. Let me see.

Okay.

So,

this is the cold, harsh world. This has always been like this.
And I think the thing is that this new generation, they think like it's high school. They're like, come on, son.

And the coach take you out to eat and put his arm around you.

Oh, no, ain't none of that. Ain't none of that.
Because listen, that right there,

you'll lose your job.

You'll lose your job. Players get coaches fired.
So if you're not playing up the par, depending on who you are, depending on what round you went in, you know, depending on how much you're making,

ain't no coddling, huh? Ain't no coddling in the NFL.

Boy,

this is business. These are X's and O's.
We going over X's and O's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday. We expect you to execute those X's and O's.

Somebody said, he was your first-round pick. You don't want him to succeed.
How many first-round picks you think Atlanta got on their roster?

So I guess they're supposed to take them all out for brunch and breakfast, huh?

It don't work like that.

This is a different generation, Ocho, because this house always been. Because here's the thing.
This is why in the military, there's supposed to be no fraternizing or higher up than subordinates.

Because there are going to be certain times that you're going to have to be like, you know, like what David did, and he put Bathsheba Husband in the front.

But that was for a whole different reason because it clouds your judgment.

So you got to be careful when you coddle a certain player because it's going to make it much more difficult to get off said player if and when you need to.

That's why

Coach Belichick has been imposed everybody. It was nothing for him to get off a player.
You know, coaches tell you that a lot all the time. Well, the most difficult thing it is to do is cut a player.

No, it ain't. You built up so much callousness.

You're numb to it.

If you're a coach of 15 years old and you got to cut 20 players a year for 15 years

they're numb to it now they pretend they they they pretend about it the the conversations they have for you when they ask you when they get that knock on your door

bring your playbook coach want to see you man they got everything

they probably said they probably they probably say the same thing everybody else the only thing they do they do different is they change the first name when they greet you and let you know yes this is tough to see everything you got to do just the worst part of my job no it you you were really easy uh but you know what i'm saying i'm just being real you know this is the tough part of my job that nobody likes to do they sit in their chair like this hey come on in how you doing son

yeah

yeah you know you just got caught up in the oh joe you know they sit back you just got caught up in the numbers game it's just one of those i did it that numbers game

There's a possibility that we might now with the situation bring you back we might bring you back for the practice squad But we're gonna give you an opportunity to go out there and see what's out out there.

And, you know,

I'm just telling you how it is.

I'm just being all the way honest with you. Yeah.
And

because a lot of times, you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut, it's okay.
No, it hurts. Because for a lot of these guys, this is the end.

Of something that they've been doing since they were seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 years old.

Oh, yeah.

So

the end is never easy. Oh, y'all, a good movie.
Man, you don't want to, you don't want a good movie to go out and be like, damn, that's it?

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Damn.

It's

tough.

And having gone through that, that's something that you didn't have to worry about being a second-round pick, that I had to worry about being a seventh-round pick. And

I remember like yesterday because we were standing at the Clarion Hotel

out by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes come in at Centennial.
And we were standing at the Clarion, and I'll never ever forget the phone rang.

So, you know, Ocho, we got two rooms, one phone.

Me, I ain't answering. Like, they don't know, like, they can't come over there and knock on the door and say, hey, hey,

uh, Coach Reese wants to see you.

Right. And I remember, uh, um,

phone rang.

The phone rang about three or four times. I'm like, they know we're in here, OJo.
I'm like, where are we going?

Hey, you ain't picking up?

Nah, you gotta come. You gotta come fast.
I pick up no phone. Dah, how would you give, give me bad news face to face?

Right. My roommate picked it up.

After a while, I see my door open.

They got your boy, man. I say, damn.

Man, I'm sorry to hear that, bro.

Yeah. Like, man, hey.

But you keep going. That's a man, you name.

As a matter of fact, we still, I hadn't talked to him. I mean, I talked to him from time to time.

Right. He came to see me play in Denver.
He came to see, he came back to see me play in Denver. He came to see me play in Baltimore.
He came to the hall.

We remained, hey, we still cool.

B-Mac. He'll tell you, he called me, he's still the only one that really called me double-S.
But it was tough because, you know, I was talking about, man, what I wanted to do and X, Y, and Z.

But you know what, Ocho? I had at that time, I had a Mercedes. My brother said, nah.
Yeah.

Lead the car home. Don't know, but hey, don't tell nobody you got it.
Don't tell nobody nothing. You going up there, you trying to make a team.
You ain't got no car. Right.

Okay.

But it's, it's, it's, it's real. Ain't nobody, ain't no baby.

Man, you remember I told you I had that thigh bruise? I had a hole in my thigh, in my quad.

They don't care nothing about that.

They're trying to find the best 53 damn players they can possibly find to make this team.

And the more you can do, the better your chances are. The better.
Oh, you're not a starter? You're not the starting level, starting defense. Or how many special teams can you play? Put me on point.

Kick, return. I can play four to five.
All of them. All of them.
Well, four to six. I can't play on PAT and I can't play PAT block or field goal block, but I can get you four of them.

You ever tackled anybody?

Yeah,

I'll play.

I hadn't tackled anybody since high school. Well, interception, but I played defense at high school.

Son, you got to be tough to play. You got to play, be tough.
Bro, I'll try to make a squad. Tell me what you need me to do.

Tell me what my job is. Tell me what my responsibility is.
Once you tell me my responsibility, oh, I'm going to carry that out.

My brother used to tell me all the time, he said, bro, you do everything that you do better than anybody else do what they do, and you'll be fine.

So that was my singular focus, Ocho. I'm going to do what I do better than anybody else do what they do.

Hey, that's all it comes down to. That's all it comes down to.

But I lost, Ocho, I had lost contact with him for like,

man, for like eight, for like eight years.

And then all of a sudden,

he called the Broncos.

They say some guy named Brian, Brian McFatter, he tried to get in touch with me. I say, oh, B-Mac, yeah.
I called him. I said, man, what the hell you being?

You know, he went back and finished up school.

And, you know, we stayed in contact and we lost contact again. He hit me up.

I think he called the Ravens. It's like a Brian McFatter.

I said, yeah.

So I hit him up, brought him out to B-more.

And, you know, then when I went to the hall, I said, hey,

Jim Sakamano, who was, he's like, anybody that you need me to find.

So

him, he found him and found a couple of guys that I was trying to get in touch with. For the most part, the guys that came out, you know, I still knew who they were.

I tried to get in touch with David Lewis, but I couldn't find him because he was the guy that made me who I am. But guys, this is different.
This is the NFL.

This ain't high school where the coach is going to take your ass in.

Or this is college where they they get that ain't what they do at this level i'm telling you i ain't telling what somebody told me i'm telling you what i know

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Qué nuestras decisiones díarias afectan casta los lugares más profundos. Elo cíano nos muybe.
Ya sía su sufiendo naola, o admirando su impersionante velleza. Eloceano nos conecta.

Descuber tú conectcion en Monterrey Bay Aquarium punto ore que di agonal conecta.

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When you say Lego Star Wars, the first thing you think of is imagination or action or both. Definitely both.

Like with Django Fett's Starship, I mean with stud blasters, seismic charges, and three minifigures, your kid is going to be creating stories until the Banthas come home.

And for yourself, there's the Django Fett's Fire Spray-class Starship Lego set from the Ultimate Collector series. Enjoy some Jedi Master level mindfulness during your building time.

Shop now for Star Wars Lego sets on Lego.com or in LEGO retail stores.