Deebo & Joe - SNF REACTION: Steelers ROASTED by Chargers, Browns lose to Jets, NFL MVP Predictions

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Speaker 5 Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison.
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Speaker 5 How you doing today, Joe?

Speaker 5 I'm doing all right, Debo. I'm doing all right, man.
It was tough. It was tough.
It was a tough weekend to watch football, my brother. I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 5 It was a lot of bad ball going on out there.

Speaker 5 A lot of things.

Speaker 5 A lot of things to be talked about, honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Y'all lost, which is a good thing, but we lost, which is a bad thing. and uh the ravens won which is

Speaker 5 which is a bad thing it's a bad thing for yeah it's a bad thing for both of us um we can mutually agree on that yeah okay yeah yeah yeah for sure um

Speaker 5 so which one we're gonna get to

Speaker 5 let's jump into the steeler thing right now man okay so we go ahead we get down to everything you know i'm thinking i'm feeling good i'm feeling good i'm feeling good all right

Speaker 5 get the rock we actually get good field position. We start off with the ball.
You know, we get the rock. I think we like at the 40 because

Speaker 5 they messed up the kick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And then before the first night, we get a false start.

Speaker 5 First play of the game. First play of the game.
We get a false start. Okay.

Speaker 5 Just get behind the story. Get behind the story.

Speaker 5 Next two plays, we get a three-yard and an eight-yard, which would have been a first down if we hadn't. If we hadn't got that, got that offside, got that false start.

Speaker 5 And then, of course, we get pressured on the third down he got was really pressured all night he he got to make some maneuvers and we don't get it we punt the ball yes chargers get out there hey first play we stuff the run dude

Speaker 5 hey popping off popping off bro the second play we get some pressure high smith get up in there and what we do we tackle the catch immediately echoes echoes you see that bro they was running up hitting you catch the ball you get tackled no question we get a third down in completion.

Speaker 5 They punt the ball. Good defense.
No question. I'm good.
I'm good with all that. Even if he had made that, hey, you sitting there, you ready to go?

Speaker 5 He would have tackled the catch. I ain't tripping.

Speaker 5 Yeah. We get him to punt the ball.
Dude, shanks the ball again.

Speaker 5 Like he shanks this one this time. Like the punter shanks.

Speaker 5 I think we get it at like the like the what 45 or something like that? 46. Yes, 45, 45 yard line.
Yo,

Speaker 5 we go out there, there, third down.

Speaker 5 He just misses DK. Of course, he's pressured again.
He's having to run around, move around.

Speaker 5 But we got to make that DBa. We got to make it.
We got to make that throw. We have to make that connection.

Speaker 5 He's open. He's wide open.
Even if you give him a chance, we can't overthrow. It's Deba with number two, the safety.
He's running behind him, chasing. That's a vet play.
We need a rod.

Speaker 5 Like a lot of these passes, he knows he's got a play. We got to hit that.
We got to hit that, Debo. No question.
We end up selling for three. We get the

Speaker 5 59. 59, bro.
We get that right there.

Speaker 5 No issue, bro. Chargers get back out there.

Speaker 5 And then on the second down, they get a gain of nine because we missed the tackles.

Speaker 5 So that puts them in a situation where I think third and fourth down, they do two quarterback sneaks. It's kind of hard to stop that yard.
I understand. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And then they run the ball again that first down. Boom, we stopped that thing, man.

Speaker 5 We get the third down, and I thought nephew had me.

Speaker 5 Nephew was

Speaker 5 right there.

Speaker 5 We don't capitalize on it. That's cool, though.
We get them up out of there. We they gotta punt, they gotta punt the rock, dude.
No issue.

Speaker 5 Still, let's get the ball. The first play, bro, it's a negative

Speaker 5 run.

Speaker 5 Like, yo, lost a two. They're in our back.

Speaker 5 What is going? You, Washington, bro, you 300 pounds and you in motion.

Speaker 5 You let this man totally stop. You push you back and then use his back

Speaker 5 to make the tackle.

Speaker 5 You got to get him up out of there.

Speaker 5 They got to get him up out of there. Third down.

Speaker 5 You got to. They pressure us again.
They pressing us in four man, bro.

Speaker 5 Like.

Speaker 5 We got lucky on that third that he was able to fall down on that thing. And

Speaker 5 it wasn't a touchdown. Yeah.
No, for sure. And that's your own, and the lineman knocked the ball out of his hand.
But we gotta just, we can't, we can't, that a safety, come on. That's points.

Speaker 5 This is what I'm saying. Defense isn't even out on the field and we're giving up.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, come on, man. It's cool.
It's still 3-2.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 gone ahead. kick the ball to him.
We back out there on defense. A little short run, you know, on the first down.
I think we pressured him. We were pressing him all night, to be honest with you.

Speaker 5 He scrambled for about three or something like that.

Speaker 5 And then they got a false start.

Speaker 5 And the next third down, pressuring him again. He ends up throwing it behind.

Speaker 5 If the money, if the pass was on the money, he might have got it. He still had somebody there to make the tackle.
I wasn't tripping. They get an incompletion, punt the ball.
We get the rock.

Speaker 5 That was good.

Speaker 5 I'm going to get to that too, brother. So

Speaker 5 still, let's get the rock back, right?

Speaker 5 Okay. First play, we get 19 to DK, okay?

Speaker 5 All right. The second one, Washington gone's here.
He makes a nice catch too. Like, oh, it's great.
Then on the first down, we get a run. Jalen, I think, hit for about nine.

Speaker 5 And then the next one, he got the first down on that.

Speaker 5 And the preceding first down, we hit Fryer move. You know what I'm saying? Yes.
Like, we're moving. Like, and then we get a seven-yard gang erase for a holding penalty.

Speaker 5 Ain't, ain't happy about it, but hey, self-inflicted. Self-inflicted.
But then we get the, I think we get the 18-yard catch, but it's reviewed. We see they called it incomplete.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm saying? And that's another play. That's another pass.
What I'm telling you. He was throwing high all night.
Why in the hell we need to make those?

Speaker 5 These are, these are simple completions. These are simple completions that we're talking about, Debo.
I'm not asking for the craziest.

Speaker 5 I'm not asking for, you know what I'm saying, squeezing in a little window. If he's wide open, these are layups.
These are layups. These are routes on air.

Speaker 5 These are routes that you hope, that you can see. You know what I'm saying? Like that you wish for this.
Just drop it in a bucket. Don't over, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Like, these are the passes where I'm like, man, he's right there. He could be able to walk into the end zone.
There should be 14 points that we should have as an offense. Instead,

Speaker 5 we we attempt a field goal and

Speaker 5 for for the first time in a long time first 16 in a row he made until this misses and that's my good man i'm not no question i'm not hey man listen you can't make them all you can't be 100 can't be man

Speaker 5 god so we still have three

Speaker 5 he should he shouldn't have been in that situation i know debo but at the same time when you think about just

Speaker 5 things that are left on the tape so much on the bone and it's simple stuff on the bone like big plays that are just like, no, we could have boom had DK for that floater joint.

Speaker 5 That would have been a touchdown. Right here, John Smith, wide open.
He could have just, you know, I'm saying, just hit him right there. He's wide open.

Speaker 5 Nobody's in a place where you got to throw the ball that damn high. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, he was, he was, for some reason, I don't know why.
He was throwing high all night, dude.

Speaker 5 Like, like, like when you go back and you're just looking at it, the Chargers get the ball back, you know, they move it down on a couple passes, and then they get the big, like 11-yard run.

Speaker 5 Yo, what is 90 vlog doing man he is back there three yards before he gets off his block why are you as a d lineman three yards deep over there and that's the play we lose slay

Speaker 5 that's the same play

Speaker 5 yep yep yep yep yep yep yep it was

Speaker 5 like it was come on man

Speaker 5 That was the that was the first explosive because on this drive, like you said, this is the first time we started getting hit.

Speaker 5 Defense was standing up until when they missed that field goal, they got to that position, they started. He finally, like we said, he, uh, what's my man's name? Uh, Herbert wasn't doing nothing.

Speaker 5 No, they only had, he was like, but at this point, he had 14 yards passing. We lose slay on that play, man.

Speaker 5 Um, was 42. Hey, he lucky he didn't get a penalty on that play, bro.

Speaker 5 Oh, hey,

Speaker 5 I love Pierre. Pierre was out there making plays.
He was out there tackling, hitting. You know what I'm saying? PBUs.
Yeah, but he could have, did he lift buddy's blood?

Speaker 5 Yes, buddy.

Speaker 5 Yes, yes, he dumped him. He did.
He dashed or dumped him. Next first down, Herbert get in there and get a sack.

Speaker 5 Yes, I'm loving that. The sec, dude, second down.

Speaker 5 This one echoes. Yes, bad eyes.
What are they looking at, bro? What is it? What? Is that man? Or am I just, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. What's going on?

Speaker 5 That's man. And that's the same thing I was trying to tell you about.
That's eye discipline. You need to be looking at your bag.
You need to be looking at your coverage.

Speaker 5 That's that's my dude goes to break and it's like they like wear it where quarterback no

Speaker 5 he because when he breaks on them that's when the cornerbacks look like that that's when you're looking at the quarterback hoping and praying he doesn't throw it to your man and it happens to be oh he was open and he ended up going another way that's what it is he needs to look at his man he needs to be on his luggage That's what it is, D.

Speaker 5 So that was just, he was, he made some really good plays. And I'm not going to knock, but there's certain plays when you don't perform.

Speaker 5 I got to point him out, which is just like, that's what it is.

Speaker 5 They get 16 on that. We're able to, you know, get some pressure.

Speaker 5 We're able to stop them um and we missed another opportunity right there where the ball slipped the dude's hands he could have scooped didn't get that they end up attempting the field goal they get the field goal now we down what is it five three

Speaker 5 okay five three we get the ball back the first down we get sacked

Speaker 5 yeah four men but but

Speaker 5 bud almost knocked but put him to sleep dude almost put him to sleep on accident almost put him to sleep and even drop his head almost put him to sleep on accident

Speaker 5 yes

Speaker 5 you saw that yes dude like on accident

Speaker 5 for sure for sure third down roger misses it short it was long or short dude longer short long or short dude i ain't never seen him have a game this bad man

Speaker 5 oh yeah that was that was a that was a great play by the db too he got dude it's either long or short it i don't anyway man we punt the rock

Speaker 5 okay

Speaker 5 again

Speaker 5 the first play, they were actually staying ahead of the change. What was that thing called?

Speaker 5 The ratio,

Speaker 5 success ratio. They were doing all right.

Speaker 5 A lot of first downs on the success ratio. They got, but they got a first down.
They did. They went even left.

Speaker 5 Somebody was out of their gap.

Speaker 5 Somebody was definitely out of their gap. Okay.

Speaker 5 And then, yeah, after that, one of them stood up. And then the second down, we probably got like a holding penalty or something.
And

Speaker 5 95 actually goes ahead. And I think he made a sack on that one.
So he went on here.

Speaker 5 He tried to make up, but I mean, if you had just not got three yards deep on that one, we might still have Slay. We end up making him punt.

Speaker 5 Whatever, you know, Steelers get back out there. And the second play, dude, a high pass.
Aaron throws a pick at our 38, bro. What

Speaker 5 are we doing?

Speaker 5 So that's what I'm saying. This is the same thing.

Speaker 5 It was, you seen how the way that that linebacker, when they, it was like an exchange, he tried to throw it over the linebacker and in between the safety. High ball.
You can't throw that.

Speaker 5 That was just good defense by the Chargers and a bad ball. High, again, like you said, either high or short.
But like, that was, we, we can't be making those turnovers.

Speaker 5 Those just bad balls by A-Rod, and he knows it. And that, you're not, that's not winning football, not winning football.
No, Chargers get the rock back first play, strike off eight yards.

Speaker 5 Again, that, that, that, that success rate thing that we was talking about.

Speaker 5 Well, first down. Yeah,

Speaker 5 the next first down, they end up getting a seven-yard pass because of what? Missed tackles. We missed the tackle.

Speaker 5 Like, they staying ahead of the change.

Speaker 5 And it's not like they're doing anything great. You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 5 the next first down, we get a great pass breakup. Like, that was a great, like, he went in there, got the hand in there, got it up out of it.

Speaker 5 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, great, great timing, bro great play yes for for for for the most part most of the dbs played better then

Speaker 5 lad mccunky mccunky dude

Speaker 5 mccunky

Speaker 5 yes bro mccunkie

Speaker 5 he he had at the same time what are we looking at

Speaker 5 the same thing again Are they taught the same thing? Hey, when he goes to break, see where the quarterback at?

Speaker 5 Same thing. No, no, no, no, no.
Same thing. Same thing.
And on this one, on this one, I would like to say that was just terrible. At the top of the route, you know what I'm saying? He routed him.

Speaker 5 He gave him the jug. So he's looking at the quarterback again.
That's your man. You have to go to him.
Same time, we got the new DB. So it's like a cut.

Speaker 5 So we saw the linebacker Queen took the other guy. They're running straight drag routes.
So Queen took his guy. We need him to kind of fall off and help him on that on that route.

Speaker 5 But at the same time, Echoes, that's your man. You need to have a little bit of inside help.
That's what you want to force him inside. But

Speaker 5 you're not covering covering him once he juggled you you're standing there looking at the quarterback that's your

Speaker 5 he saw right

Speaker 5 yes yes that's exactly what he was looking at debo so that was legit man and he needs to have somebody can fall off and give him a little more help on the inside but

Speaker 5 you gotta be close enough you gotta make him tackle you gotta be close you gotta be with

Speaker 5 I was always told

Speaker 5 you should not look until you can reach and touch him with your hand. And that's what I'm saying.
He should be driving his man right there. We should not be seeing his eyes.

Speaker 5 He's looking at the quarterback like, no, that's your man. You need to be driving your coverage.
That's what you taught, like bad eyes.

Speaker 5 He should be, they're going to be taking films of him looking at the quarterback.

Speaker 5 I was taking some screenshots to

Speaker 5 send to you to be like, this, this is like he's watching TV. He's sitting there watching the quarterback throw the ball to his man.
Yes, that put us down 12 to three now.

Speaker 5 Steelers come back out there. They get a couple plays, do nothing.
Hell, we almost get a pick. I think we had a drop pass too.

Speaker 5 Drop Calvin Austin, dropped the slant just in the, in the in the hands.

Speaker 5 So in the half, 12 to three, I'm just like, all right, cool.

Speaker 5 I mean, it could have been far better. It actually could have been worse.
You know, could have been way worse. Could have been worse.
Chargers get the ball, you know, in the, you know, in the second.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 first play, it's a false start. But we turn around to give it right back to him with offsign.
Right back. We stuffed the run.
You know what I'm saying? Then we stuffed the run. DJ

Speaker 5 yeah. Yep, we get a we get a what was it? Was it third,

Speaker 5 third third and eight, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a little, they hit us with a little right to man.
We got a little, you know, I'm saying,

Speaker 5 I ain't tripping, I ain't tripping. That happens,

Speaker 5 I ain't tripping. I was,

Speaker 5 yes,

Speaker 5 we stuffed the run on the first down, second down, another nice pass break, dude. Come on, Peter, question, bro, and then close it out.
He was third down, sack.

Speaker 5 Yes, that's what we do. They punt the rock.
High side.

Speaker 5 Come in. See a quarterback crying, bro.
He could grab you however he wants you.

Speaker 5 Like, shut up.

Speaker 5 Man, something like he grabbed, bro. You can get ganked up by here.
Something like it, like it was the anyway. I don't, I don't even care nothing about that.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 The stillers get the rock back.

Speaker 5 Hey, that first down run. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What'd he do? A leap jump high as a mother. Boy looked like he was doing high hurdles out there.

Speaker 5 He, broke smooth too.

Speaker 5 Yo,

Speaker 5 then

Speaker 5 we get to the third down. We get sacked again.

Speaker 5 Four men.

Speaker 5 Four.

Speaker 5 They ain't even blitzing us, man. They ain't even blitzing us.
Third and third and yes.

Speaker 5 They ain't even blitzing us, bro. We got to punt the rock.

Speaker 5 We get back out there. Defense got a hole.
We got a hole. What the

Speaker 5 first play?

Speaker 5 This

Speaker 5 That's

Speaker 5 what?

Speaker 5 18.

Speaker 5 Next play.

Speaker 5 They get 12 again.

Speaker 5 Who's 95? Benton? What's his name? He's four yards deep again at the end of the play. Clap his head.
Clap your hands for what? You should.

Speaker 5 Gotta make the play. Gotta make the play.
Can't be sitting back. Gotta Gotta make the play.

Speaker 5 It's like we got a D-line that's playing midway in between the linebackers and the D-line.

Speaker 5 You say he's getting pushed back.

Speaker 5 He was four yards deep before he got off the ball, before he got off the block.

Speaker 5 The other one where

Speaker 5 Slate got hurt, it was about three yards.

Speaker 5 Yeah, okay, okay. I thought you were talking about he was penetrating and then running past.
You mean he getting pushed backwards?

Speaker 5 He was getting pushed back

Speaker 5 okay

Speaker 5 okay and they got another run of eight

Speaker 5 herbig come through though he get that tackle for a loss hey he made that play uh gave him that you think i'm gonna have to go out but i don't uh

Speaker 5 come to it cam come through with the paw

Speaker 5 pbu for cam we able to hold him we able to hold him to a field goal

Speaker 5 it's it's three to fifteen. I ain't even lie right now.
I ain't really feeling.

Speaker 5 I'm not feeling at all.

Speaker 5 I'm glad the defense is still able to, like, not bend, but don't brain, not trying to give up no touchdowns. But on the offensive side of the ball, we got to do something.
No quick.

Speaker 5 We need to go out there. We get

Speaker 5 to do three and nothing.

Speaker 5 You know, we out of there.

Speaker 5 Chargers get back out there.

Speaker 5 They move it a little.

Speaker 5 We ain't got no, I mean, we ain't got nobody looking at him. He gone.
What did he do? 15? He got 15 on that scramble?

Speaker 5 I think it was third and four. What was it? Third and 14.
I think he got like 12. He got 12.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I don't know what it was. Anyway, dude, we ended up, I think,

Speaker 5 getting a holding call.

Speaker 5 They held us. Sorry.
They held us. And then Highsmith come through for us

Speaker 5 on the

Speaker 5 second down and get the sack. Okay.

Speaker 5 They ended up having to

Speaker 5 attempt the field goal. They missed the field goal.
I'm feeling a little optimistic, but not really. I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 5 Like, I'm just, I'm trying to see something come from the offense that'll give me some hope. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 And we're hoping because we have good field position. And we got a whole fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 They just missed that. 45-yard line.
Let's go. Yeah.
So we can still

Speaker 5 get the rock.

Speaker 5 I think Warren went for about 11. Boom.
11. That was okay.
Cool. That next preceding first down hit Fry Moose.
Fire fire them up for almost another first by nine.

Speaker 5 Yes, Warren gets the little and breaks tackles. You get 18 on them.

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Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 5 Third.

Speaker 5 Down, we get pressured again we get a high pass

Speaker 5 fourth down i don't know what we're thinking just trying to hope dk could make a play like they were over top of this dude all day he always had two man we need another receiver he always

Speaker 5 that's what you said that's what you said to the reboot we we skipped over on the third down on the high pass

Speaker 5 like

Speaker 5 he he flinched

Speaker 5 bro they just they just blend together

Speaker 5 the the one i mean it was just again it was just another bad hobby he just and he flinched on him like he was standing right there a game where it was wide open you got to just deliver that you know what i'm saying he flinched and then threw the joint all high in the air like that's not a rod those aren't oh no we ain't gonna get a performance like this again that gotta be his worst game in his career ever no

Speaker 5 gotta be we turned the ball over and then that and then he

Speaker 5 turned the ball over then it was the bad then the like you said the dk madcat ball that's a bullet fade ball if that's dk at least give him a little back shoulder in the air to your big man.

Speaker 5 Like he threw the joint on the line, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 I don't even think that would have mattered, dude. It was like two, three other people over there.
We just were just shooting up for a hope and a prayer, man.

Speaker 5 I know, I know, but goddamn. Like,

Speaker 5 Chargers get the rock back, dude. I think they went 15 on the first play.
We missed tackles

Speaker 5 and then

Speaker 5 third down.

Speaker 5 Oh, man. We done let

Speaker 5 a man to man. Man, we done let this man go 58 on him.

Speaker 5 McCunky. And that was man to man.
He was right there.

Speaker 5 He was right there. Why? Put it in the pocket.
When that happens, what's the next thing you do? Short of tackle, right?

Speaker 5 Yes, yes. If you're not going to, if you're not going to,

Speaker 5 you got to go with the left hand and at least have the right hand just in case you miss.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 5 You put both of them in there. It didn't get nothing around.
around, like this, it didn't get nothing here and here, and or at least, yeah, no, no, no, for sure.

Speaker 5 If you, yeah, you they can't do that, you got to show up to tackle. Next play, bro, talkie hit you for 58.

Speaker 5 I think they end up what was it, 11 on the next play, and then he ran another one right after that touchdown, right after the back-to-back around the damn game is over with, bro. It's 20

Speaker 5 right there, turned to a three-score game, Debo. So it's it's it's 20, what, 20 22 to 3 now? 22 to 3.
Stillers get back back out there. Again,

Speaker 5 we get a tip pass, interception.

Speaker 5 Right in his hands, though.

Speaker 5 Dang.

Speaker 5 Anyway,

Speaker 5 Charters get out there. Stillers able to force a, was it three and out with the help of a holding penalty that

Speaker 5 we got?

Speaker 5 Punt the ball. They punt the ball to us, right?

Speaker 5 Yep. Yep.
We must have punt, bro.

Speaker 5 Why was dude dude standing there after he hit it like he was backing up trying, huh? You just hit the ball. That's live.
Go get it. Go get it.
Instantly. Instantly.
Yes. Yes.
Go get it. Yes.

Speaker 5 He started trying to look and cool.

Speaker 5 What's the ball already? Hit you.

Speaker 5 No, I don't know. That was crazy.
Dude, it was like we just fell apart. As soon as the fourth quarter hit, like,

Speaker 5 they end up defense able to stop or hold, you know.

Speaker 5 Yep. It's 20, 23.
to 3.

Speaker 5 They was able to hold because, I mean, the field position, they could have got a field goal from there. So they went tackle for loss, tackle for loss, doing what they could.
30 to 15.

Speaker 5 Dude, it really don't matter from there, man. It's just trash time after that.
We end up scoring a touchdown. It's

Speaker 5 and game ends 25 to 10 or something, dude. Like,

Speaker 5 that,

Speaker 5 bruh, defense, defense, we can definitely play better situationally for sure. We got to be able to hold up in the run game.
Period. We got to play situationally better.

Speaker 5 When you get beat, it ain't nothing wrong with getting beat, but go ahead and don't let him go ahead and get yak after it. Like when we had

Speaker 5 a good game all together, what we sacked dude five times, I think he only had

Speaker 5 what 225, 220 on 33 attempts,

Speaker 5 115 rushing total. We only gave up 315, 314 yards as a whole defense.
Like,

Speaker 5 it was good, but we have to play situationally better.

Speaker 5 We can't let people get off those runs that we let them get off, get off those passes, though big plays, the chomp plays, especially when the game is close like that. Like, we can't do that.

Speaker 5 And they're like, why are y'all on the defense? Because I played defense. The same reason, I'm pretty sure the defense will be on themselves.

Speaker 5 If you talk to any of those guys, they go be on themselves. They know what they left out there.
Everybody knows what they left out there. And the offense, yo, was trash.
We were super trash.

Speaker 5 We were trapped. Aaron played the worst that he has played probably his whole career.
Okay.

Speaker 5 And he knows that. Like that.

Speaker 5 He was pressured all night. When he didn't, you know what I'm saying, get pressured.
We had high throws. When, you know, he was able to get the ball to the receivers.
We had drops.

Speaker 5 Like, the O-line

Speaker 5 is bad, period. We need help.
Bro, like, what do you, two of 11 on third down? I don't even think we completed a third down to like the third quarter sometime, dude.

Speaker 5 Like, Rodgers was 16 of 31 for 161 yards. That don't happen.
And on top of that, drug, six of 66, six completions for 66 yards and a touchdown of that came at trash time.

Speaker 5 Other than that, got two picks, three sacks, pressured all night. Um, which you, what you expect to happen.
The Chargers defense ain't like that.

Speaker 5 They ain't like that.

Speaker 5 We need help. And it's too late.

Speaker 5 Too late to get help, especially on the offense. It's too late.

Speaker 5 Trade that line. I feel like what you said was correct, Debo.
I think A-Rod, this might have been one of his worst games.

Speaker 5 Defensively, I wasn't as upset. Same thing you said too.
You have to eliminate the big plays, the man-temans, the eye disciplines, the gouges, the run game.

Speaker 5 We did good, but it's when we needed to do it most, like we can't let them still get those 11-yard explosive runs, winning on first down, being able to control the clock and hold the ball that long.

Speaker 5 I wasn't as mad at them, though, because, I mean, defense, they know what they had to do.

Speaker 5 they had to stop that. They did better.

Speaker 5 They did a whole lot better to make it not been, but they had to do that. We got to force three, four, five, six turnovers to win a game.

Speaker 5 That's what I'm going to bluster on offense. Come on, man.

Speaker 5 That's the part that I'm trying to get to you, too, where.

Speaker 5 Defense knows, like you said, them boys looking in the mirror, they know we can't let them. He shouldn't have had that type of rushing attack on them on this day.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 But the offense,

Speaker 5 how bad they played, brother, like, that's not normal. You know what I'm saying? So, defense, you still can go back and do better, but offense, like dropping passes,

Speaker 5 wide open passes, a rod, we can't have you performing like this at all.

Speaker 5 I don't expect him to perform like that again, but that's me either. That's why we're doing

Speaker 5 to improve on the offensive side of the ball. Like,

Speaker 5 we're doing sure, for sure. That's not

Speaker 5 that's not like

Speaker 5 for

Speaker 5 come on, man.

Speaker 5 The dropping dropping open passes and not like, we're not good enough to drop open passes.

Speaker 5 Like, making the simple thing, I'm talking about like, we're not asking you to go jump over somebody and make a head top. We're asking you to catch a slant ball.

Speaker 5 We're asking you to just, you know what I'm saying, not drop that. And then A-Rod, with this team that you have, we know we don't have, like you said, the other like DK.
Yo, we need

Speaker 5 we ain't got, we ain't got no, we ain't got no two.

Speaker 5 We got, well,

Speaker 5 we need a real life. No, we don't.
Our two, our two is Washington and and Fire Move. If Fire Move

Speaker 5 in DK all night,

Speaker 5 dude, the safety actually just sat on that side a couple times. He ain't even trying to disguise it.

Speaker 5 No, no, for sure. I mean, because they know if you eliminate that deep, there's no other threat for real.
We're going to run the ball. Hell no.
We can't do that consistently to save our life.

Speaker 5 No, no. And then we run.

Speaker 5 that was that that was tough.

Speaker 5 But the only reason why I'm not as mad, though, because the defense, I was Joey Porter Jr., they stepped up.

Speaker 5 He didn't have any penalties, he was locked in, he made some pass breakups, he could have caught the pick, but like was in the right places, making tackles, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 So he, I love the way he stood up to the challenge. Jalen Ramsey out there performing.

Speaker 5 Certain people are definitely there, they're stepping up, but it's like

Speaker 5 offensive. It's not a defense, certain people, it's a defensive team.

Speaker 5 I know, I feel you. I feel you.
There you go with that loser again, Joe. You're looking for the silver lining.
Ain't no silver lining. We lost.

Speaker 5 No, no, a thousand, but what you, what you gonna do? What you gonna do? I'll be tripping.

Speaker 5 You're tripping, I don't go get mad either. I said, I, I, I, I said that to myself.
I said, I ain't gonna get mad. I said, listen, defense play well.

Speaker 5 I said, yes, we could play situations together, but I get into the conversation. I know why I get so emotional.

Speaker 5 You start building up. Dude, I angry.
I don't know what my head is doing. I started spinning.
Like, yeah,

Speaker 5 you're really passionate, Debo. And i appreciate it i appreciate the passion man let's let's talk about something good man the browns lost how'd y'all do

Speaker 5 oh my

Speaker 5 gosh

Speaker 5 man what happened with the browns man what happened with the browns you i i i ain't get a chance to watch it because i didn't see that they only got uh they got a negative eight yard uh series on that first one i didn't see that what what happened uh with the browns i know y'all lost I know Cleveland got the ball first.

Speaker 5 And like I said, I didn't watch the game because I just didn't watch the game because I figured you know the first you know series they went out there they ended up with a total of negative eight yards but i didn't watch the game you know what i'm saying but you know the defense went out there you know and did a nice three and out but um

Speaker 5 uh go ahead joe go ahead you go ahead

Speaker 5 so adebo um

Speaker 5 so uh

Speaker 5 yeah that the browns game actually it was actually crazy um i'm not gonna lie to you We started off with the first play, like you said, running on the first play, you know, great start off the game.

Speaker 5 First down, run. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Holding on the first play of the game. You can't make it up.
Second play of the game, draw. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 We get a quick, quick three and out. How many yards are gaining on that?

Speaker 5 Not a lot. Negative eight?

Speaker 5 I think it was.

Speaker 5 You want to stay, you want to have why you got to always stay specifics. And then Browns defense.

Speaker 5 Browns defense goes out out there and does exactly what they're supposed to do and what they normally do. They go out there, perform, get a quick-ass three and out.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Do exactly what Jets out there looking crazy. So punt the ball.

Speaker 5 Uh, yeah, Browns get the ball, right? And then this is the first drive. We start looking good, driving the ball down.
You know what I'm saying? A couple of good passes, a couple of good grounds.

Speaker 5 Dog pound,

Speaker 5 you know what I'm saying? Dog pounds, stand up,

Speaker 5 get down, end up getting a touchdown.

Speaker 5 Touchdown. Touchdown.

Speaker 5 My man, Dylan Gabriel, throws a touchdown pass. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Little touchdown pass to my man,

Speaker 5 Joku. Name Joku.
Let's get past that touchdown. What's next? No, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to take our time on that. Oh, wow, why, why, why, why? Browns up.

Speaker 5 Brown's up 7-0.

Speaker 5 Because before I could finish celebrating my touchdown,

Speaker 5 we kicked the ball off and they run it back 99 yards. I know, I I know how to do that because I did 100, but go ahead.

Speaker 5 They ran the ball back on this Debo 99 yards for a kickoff return. So it is now 7 to 7.
7 to 7. You know what's so crazy, Joe?

Speaker 5 This ain't even touched the field. Defense touched the field one time.
Gotta say that.

Speaker 5 Oh, no.

Speaker 5 Exactly. Didn't touch the field at all.
And points on your head top. Go ahead, Joe.
So that's not a good feeling as a defense. You know what I'm saying? I know what it feels like, man.

Speaker 5 see that right there that's how I ran that back on them boys see that the thing say pick six right there yeah here see that right there you see right there yeah go ahead anyway Joe go ahead Joe

Speaker 5 so uh yep Browns get the ball back

Speaker 5 you know what I'm saying uh we get a first down nice little overrout to Judy you know uh after the over out the judy

Speaker 5 uh kind of i ain't gonna lie i think i think i think i think y'all went like a three and out right there man

Speaker 5 yeah we did because we got we got a we got a false start. Yeah, look, we was ready to look, you know, I didn't watch it, though.
I'm just going. I think I saw it.
I mean, I don't know. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 But what happened next, Joe? I didn't see it. We went three passes.

Speaker 5 I mean, no, we went three passes,

Speaker 5 three passes, three plays, zero yards, and we punt.

Speaker 5 And when we punt,

Speaker 5 they run the punt back to Debo.

Speaker 5 Both pump,

Speaker 5 the kickoff return, then the punt returns.

Speaker 5 And look, we got a flag, too. So I'm thinking at least it was going to be something on them.
We're going to call it back.

Speaker 5 What's up, y'all?

Speaker 5 They done gave us the pump return and we got the flag.

Speaker 5 So double. 7-14.
7-14. Who?

Speaker 5 Down 14-7 to the Jets.

Speaker 5 And our defense has been on the field for a total of three days. Yes, sir.

Speaker 5 Okay. So that just not is not looking good.
It's not feeling good. What do Cleveland do when they get the ball back, though? I want to know.

Speaker 5 We get a first down. You know what I'm saying? We don't just finish the drive.
We get a first down. I kind of heard that you might have went for it one time on like a fourth down that next position.

Speaker 5 No, we actually didn't go for it on fourth down.

Speaker 5 I thought you kind of went. It's even worse.
We tried to go. Yeah, that's what I heard.
We were about to go for it. It was fourth and two.
And we get a flag, which drops us back to fourth and seven.

Speaker 5 And then we. What'd you get a flag for? Hold on, hold on,

Speaker 5 was it a false start, Joe? False start. It was a false start, Debo.
It's a, yeah, pre-snap. That's what I heard.

Speaker 5 False start, though. Yeah, that's just, yeah, that's just not not not good ball.

Speaker 5 Undisciplined football. We started getting a little bit of something going.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Misery love coming. I think that's a good thing.
You know that, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, guess what, though? Then the Browns defense comes back out there. And my man, because you know what? That's the ball tip Browns defense you talk so much about.

Speaker 5 That ball tip Browns defense, you know, Justin Field, he come out there and I'm thinking that he's standing in the pocket, no pressure.

Speaker 5 He throws the ball full speed, hits Hickman right in between the three and the three. Boom.

Speaker 5 Pick instantly. Browns, great field position.
So now, okay, boom, the Browns defense puts them in great field position for the Browns offense to get out there.

Speaker 5 Little do you know, this is what I'm, and no, this is no disrespect. Dylan Gabriel comes out there, first play, boom, little scramble, and he throws a 22-yard pass to touchdown to June, right?

Speaker 5 I'm happy. I love it, but at the same time, I'm looking at Dylan Gabriel, and when he

Speaker 5 throws his ball, and when he throws his ball, I love it, it's a 22-yard pass, and it looked like he almost threw his shoulder out of his socket.

Speaker 5 Like, it did not look like it looked like it was like a heave from a 22-yard pass. And there was like this, oh, and he throws a dart.
I'm like, that wasn't no dime.

Speaker 5 Like, that it still was like, I'm just, it just doesn't look good, but I'm happy that he's threw that touchdown pass. It's now we had two touchdown passes.
Okay, the score is tied up. Tied up now.
14.

Speaker 5 Tied up, 14. 14.
We're back even.

Speaker 5 We're done. We're done.
We're back. Y'all done.
I don't know why I keep saying we.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Debo. No, I was talking about you can be in this one.
You could be in this one with me. Misery loves.

Speaker 5 Listen, I want you to be miserable too because I didn't. I done went through my misery already.
Join, join me. I'm listening.

Speaker 5 So go ahead. It's back even 14-14.
What did that vaulting

Speaker 5 Browns defense do when the Jets got back out there?

Speaker 5 They bended, but they did not break. They cracked.

Speaker 5 So they cracked. They cracked.
They're a little kink in the armor. You know what I'm saying? Obviously, they did 11 plays, 64 yards.
They really started.

Speaker 5 The run game, they started toting it. Bryce was toting.
He started getting a little involved. Okay.
So

Speaker 5 that was what it was. Yes, sir.

Speaker 5 And then we ended up holding him to kick a field goal. So y'all down now.

Speaker 5 You're down now. That vaulted defense gave up three points.

Speaker 5 they

Speaker 5 let them drive 64 yards to get there, too. But go ahead.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, yeah. But that's come on, man.
They've been balling out, Joe. It's okay.
It's okay. One time.
One. Okay.

Speaker 5 Then what we get here? Cleveland, you get

Speaker 5 the ball.

Speaker 5 We get the ball back.

Speaker 5 Trying to drive. We get sacked.

Speaker 5 We get sacked on third and 17. We end up punting it.
It's fourth and 26.

Speaker 5 Joe, this is what happened. You end up tying it up at halftime seven no no no no because no that we did then they just got the ball back we got another three and out that

Speaker 5 don't matter that don't matter that don't matter that don't matter you go into halftime 17 7 y'all actually get a field goal okay

Speaker 5 it's okay joe it's okay i can't stand i can't stand

Speaker 5 so it's okay you can't hold on to it the whole time you can't hold on to it the whole time okay so you get back out there and you know what you do in the third quarter y'all do nothing

Speaker 5 you do absolutely nothing nobody doesn't do anything

Speaker 5 until a nice short little pass what happened joe go ahead i'll let you take off from there i think it was about 42 yards i didn't watch it though i didn't watch it though i didn't watch it though i didn't watch it they're doing nothing they're not pissing a drop that defense just the field go ahead

Speaker 5 throws a screen pass that goes 42 yards for a touchdown pass

Speaker 5 that yeah that that i mean libo

Speaker 5 the man threw for 42 yards in a whole game. They gave up one touchdown pass.
I'm not as like, okay, like,

Speaker 5 can't give up nothing? Zero? I mean, situationally, you should stand up there. Situation.
I'm just saying, vaulted defense is times when you got to stand up.

Speaker 5 You know, that's one of them. They was on the sideline and 14 points was gained.
Hey, I told you, that's why I told you. We back even halftime.
Everybody, zero, zero. Put in your work.
Yep.

Speaker 5 They put in their work. You're right.
They They shouldn't have gave up a school. They shouldn't have gave up a school.

Speaker 5 When you on the D, when you're on the team like this and you're fighting for your life and you're trying to get wins,

Speaker 5 you can't give up nothing. You can't give up nothing.
24-17. Who up?

Speaker 5 Whoop.

Speaker 5 Who you think is up, Debo? We up. The Jets up.
The Jets.

Speaker 5 The Jets up.

Speaker 5 Browns get the ball, man. Kick off.
They get down there.

Speaker 5 Don't really do too much or nothing.

Speaker 5 hey i think i'm hearing something about

Speaker 5 what you say what the football guys say they say they they they went for a fourth and one what happened on that fourth and one joe

Speaker 5 joe are you there joe no

Speaker 5 joe i'm losing i'm losing you oh oh i think somebody got sacked turned over on downs i don't know i'm just hearing this from the universe you bring it to me because i didn't watch it

Speaker 5 yes i'm just hearing this long Long story short, Debo, let's just get to the gritty. We end up getting the ball back.
They get a field goal.

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Speaker 5 Let's talk about that vaulted defense at the end. Let's talk about that.
That defense that vaulted Brown's defense that couldn't stand. Mental, mental, no, yeah, it's mental errors.

Speaker 5 Devin, we got it, we get a holding call and then we get a false start just to hit us where it really hurts.

Speaker 5 Even though we're down seven with a chance to get the ball back and at least see what can happen, but we don't even get a chance because of two third, two extended flags on third down, which don't even let us go out there.

Speaker 5 So it was just bad. It was just bad.
It was bad.

Speaker 5 Who

Speaker 5 allows themselves to jump off sides on fourth and four

Speaker 5 when you know

Speaker 5 they're not even going to run a play? Who, who,

Speaker 5 who?

Speaker 5 That's discipline. That's discipline.

Speaker 5 It's okay. That's just discipline.
But, you know,

Speaker 5 Stavansky says, hey,

Speaker 5 I am going to stick with my quarterback.

Speaker 5 You know?

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 I ain't going to lie to you. I'm geek because, because I mean, I don't want Shadore to go in and have to play the Ravens his first game.
So it's gonna be

Speaker 5 that. I'm rooting for my man.
Nope. Nope.
I don't care. What team you wanted to play, Joe?

Speaker 5 Not the Ravens.

Speaker 5 Not right now. Not the Ravens.

Speaker 5 Who they play after the Ravens? Boy, Cleveland got issues over there.

Speaker 5 The whole special team sold. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 They sold it out for them boys.

Speaker 5 That was, it's just, look, Debo, sometimes,

Speaker 5 it's not even like this

Speaker 5 special teams has never been like that. My man, Bubba Ventron is the coach.
They've never been that. They're not that bad.
It's just when it rains, it pours.

Speaker 5 We don't find something that's going to get, that's going to happen. That's going to end up being bad.
So it's not like.

Speaker 5 We're trying.

Speaker 5 They're not trying to lose. The dudes aren't trying.
And I don't think that the special teams is that bad. But on these, on particular games, we're going to find a way to lose to the Jets.

Speaker 5 When Justin Fields throws for 42 yards and they rush for it. They have a total of 169 yards.
Total offense. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 The defense, like only a couple of plays, like we said, like they ran into a couple and like ended up getting, you're going to make plays because you're a professional team, but we're going to find a way to somehow lose.

Speaker 5 You gave up 14 without the defense being on the field. They gave up 13 points as a defense.
You know what I'm saying? While they're out there. Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 5 I understand, Joe. I understand.

Speaker 5 When you're out there, you got to, you know, you got to do what you got to do. You got to do it.
Okay, man.

Speaker 5 I'm gonna let you, I'm gonna let you get out of this misery and I'm gonna let you talk about some other people's miseries, man. So, the Lions went on out there, and

Speaker 5 they went on ahead and dog walked the boys over there. The commander saw

Speaker 5 that was crazy. They scored on every possession, but everyone where they knelt down, bro.

Speaker 5 Gibbs was 142 Russian, plus 30 more receiving, two tugs. Hell,

Speaker 5 my dude, David Montgomery, he added another 71. They was 226 total rushing.

Speaker 5 Goff went on here, was 25 for 320, three tugs. I think he was like 135, 136 quarterback rating.

Speaker 5 And then, remember when the OC said he felt like he was doing a disservice to Williams because he wasn't used any better, right?

Speaker 5 Yes. He went on here and Dan said, I'm going to take over the play, Carl and just give it a little different feel.
That boy went out there six for 119. Whoa.

Speaker 5 And ain't nobody mad. Ain't nobody upset.
Ain't nobody in their feelings. They don't care about who gets the credit as long as we win.

Speaker 5 That over there, what they got over there in Detroit, what they coaches is doing, how they do it, how they operate to it, dude, it is masterful, dude.

Speaker 5 It is masterful. And then you got, dang, this dude goes and punches St.
Brown. Are you out of your mind, dude?

Speaker 5 Are you out of your mind? You just got yourself suspended for a game. And like, I don't even care about the, like, like the punch.
Like, okay, like, you could have broke your whole hand, been done.

Speaker 5 Like, I'm not losing it to where I'm going to actually take a punch at a helmet.

Speaker 5 He threw that joint like he was trying to sneak buddy and knock

Speaker 5 out.

Speaker 5 He threw it. He tried to get to the chin, too.

Speaker 5 I tried to hit him in his chin. He tried to get to the chin.
I was chin, bro.

Speaker 5 Bro, that was crazy. You have a tale of two different franchises and situations going on right there.

Speaker 5 Like the way that the lions are moving is unbelievable. Love to see it.
Golf, the running game, everybody like Amberon Say Brown. You see them dudes blocking too, like Williams.

Speaker 5 And he, the way there's a coach, like you said, you want to play for a coach like that. That's going out there and be like, no, I need to to get my dude the ball.
He wasn't complaining.

Speaker 5 And next thing you know, he feeds him because he knows he's a baller and it could make our team successful. And

Speaker 5 it's going to make my man good. So vibes is on a thousand over there.
They're moving the ball. Just

Speaker 5 everything, the running game, the linemen, the receivers, the quarterback, the coaching staff, the defense. They're flying around.
Everybody looks like they're enjoying it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 They're playing for each other. You don't see no, everybody.
Nobody's worried about who gets the credit long as we win. It's dude.
It's no ego.

Speaker 5 It's a beautiful thing. No ego.
It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 5 And the way to the coach, man, they talk about me. I go ahead and take over the play calling 536 total yards.
They just moving it. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 5 And like he said, it wasn't like I was just calling the play for myself. Yes, I was still getting input for the OC.
I was getting input from other guys.

Speaker 5 Like, we wanted to try something different. Get a gift.
It worked.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 What are we talking about?

Speaker 5 It worked.

Speaker 5 It's nothing.

Speaker 5 Hey, I like how they do it over there.

Speaker 5 I think a lot more people should look into it, see how they do it, and try and approach it the same way, all the way from how they do with what they do with their players to how they hire their coaches.

Speaker 5 The coaches being former players that played in the positions that they're coaching so that you have automatic buy-in and nobody's worried about who's getting the credit because at the end of it,

Speaker 5 as long as we're winning, everybody's going to have success. And that's how you get other people out and you get your coaching tree bigger and everything else, dude.

Speaker 5 1000%. They're doing it the right way, dude.
Let's get over here to Germany, man.

Speaker 5 Is that Germany that we was at? Yes, sir. The coach, they beat the Falcons 35.
No, it's 31 to 25 in overtime. You know, I played in Germany, Ryan Fire, Dusseldorf, Germany, NFL Europe.
Yeah, bro.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to show you. I'm going to have to show you that sooner or later.
But

Speaker 5 Taylor went crazy, bro.

Speaker 5 That boy was 32 for 244.

Speaker 5 Russian

Speaker 5 rushing and added another 42 receiving.

Speaker 5 Bro, out of control. Definitely in the MVP conversation.

Speaker 5 1,000%. He had to get them yards back from when the Stillers, man, stood it.
He ain't getting none. He had the average.
He had to balance it out. Oh, no question.

Speaker 5 Had a couple receivers, I think, had almost 100. I think Pierce had 84.
Warren had like 99, and then Taylor was the third highest rushing receiver, sorry, receiving receiver in the

Speaker 5 game, 519, 520 yards of total offense, bro. Like, this is a good thing and a bad thing, bro.
Like,

Speaker 5 you won the game

Speaker 5 31 to 25 in overtime,

Speaker 5 but your running back had to throw up

Speaker 5 almost 360 yards by itself,

Speaker 5 and you still got in there and had to go overtime to get it done.

Speaker 5 Like, that's good and bad. That's a lot of offense going through one person.

Speaker 5 Man,

Speaker 5 I just love the fact that, I mean, you got him on your team. He's the bell cow.
You just knowing you got that. I understand, but it's the Falcons.
It ain't like you was playing something.

Speaker 5 Man, they tried to look, man.

Speaker 5 You got to do, you got to get it how you live. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 They got Daniel Jones, they got Pierce, they got them tight ends, whatever. But if that's what's getting it done for this game, for this particular game, this is what we're going to have to do.

Speaker 5 I'm not mad at it. I ain't mad at it, but that's a lot.
That's a lot of offense going through one person. And a lot of the time, that's what you're saying.
It's a lot of offense going through him.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 5 I don't know if you

Speaker 5 bro, but at the same time, when Domes, when they came to us and they played against the stillers he gave it to alec alec uh them two pearson and balt and the two receivers they both six catches and nine catches for 115 a piece so i mean he could do they them dudes could still get off them receivers still not i understand that but when he don't get off it don't look too good

Speaker 5 man if you got jonathan tail

Speaker 5 right like i'm just saying like he he had been hurt in the past like it's a lot of ball running through him dude a lot of no no for sure for sure you know what i'm saying you know man a lot of season left.

Speaker 5 Debo, man, they gonna win, man. They're gonna ride that man, JT.
You tripping, bro.

Speaker 5 They're gonna ride.

Speaker 5 For sure. To the wheels fall off.

Speaker 5 Yo.

Speaker 5 So, listen,

Speaker 5 Buffalo

Speaker 5 went out there and got hands put on their ass by the dolphins. Man, like, see,

Speaker 5 the dolphins most understood. I don't even know what the you don't know what you get tour was fighting trying to keep him in there too though to

Speaker 5 be like no man it's just here take this get get a pick on it real like i i want to have a fight like i dude i

Speaker 5 yeah i don't i don't know what to think of the dolphins no more man i don't i don't

Speaker 5 up down like i don't

Speaker 5 Dude, then the head coach, I guess he took off and rolled past,

Speaker 5 what was it, over there

Speaker 5 and

Speaker 5 rolling the fans i guess going past and uh taking a video of them the bills mafia out there at some uh different bars over there or something we got the video or something

Speaker 5 do we got that

Speaker 5 the picture we got a picture

Speaker 5 there you go and that

Speaker 5 black yeah he and that matt black bentley thing looking sweet

Speaker 5 dude

Speaker 5 I don't know what all right I don't know what to think. They can do it.

Speaker 5 They just can't consistently do it. I don't know what's going on over there.
What do you think is going over there

Speaker 5 in Miami, bro?

Speaker 5 Man,

Speaker 5 I don't believe.

Speaker 5 I would have bet good money. They ain't have a chance.

Speaker 5 That they was going to lose, right?

Speaker 5 But you know, Debo, that's the one thing, though, about it. Any given Sunday, because these dudes, at the end of the day, everybody's professional.
You know how that is. You have players on your team.

Speaker 5 Nobody's trying to go out there and lose. Every dog, every dog has his day.
Right clock is wrong. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 So them they could have underestimated they could have came in there thinking it was a trap game you know what i'm saying so i don't think and i don't believe in the consistency of the dolphins being able to do that no

Speaker 5 question i just i mean not not really a fan i i appreciate them coming out there and fighting you know i'm saying because they're nfl players that's why i like dudes the eye in the sky don't lie right you are what your tape is if you out there putting out bad tape that means you're a bad football player so you might not play anymore so like any game of son them dudes come out there and look like a ball is because they're professionals.

Speaker 5 That's what they're supposed to do. I'm going to make sure this

Speaker 5 dude isn't going to win my one-on-ones. You know what I'm saying? So, I think those games can happen.

Speaker 5 Dudes come out there and just ball out, but consistently being like, No, this was who we are, I don't, I don't see it.

Speaker 5 Well, you add that with the confirmation of probably the bills is looking past him too.

Speaker 5 You know, that could be a little bit happens too. Yeah,

Speaker 5 Demarcus Lawrence went out there and beat uh

Speaker 5 beat Arizona in the first half. He, he, uh, he outscored him 14 to 7.

Speaker 5 No, he got

Speaker 5 two fumble recovers for touchdowns, one of 34 and one of 22. I think it was like 38 to 7 at the half.
Ended up being 44 to 22.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that game was over with before it even started, bro.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Dino, that's a good feeling.

Speaker 5 I had two picks in the game. I never had two touchdowns.
I had a a pick six in the game, two picks, but never two defensive touchdowns.

Speaker 5 I can't say I did that either, brother. I cannot say I did that either.

Speaker 5 And dude, he's fast. Go over here to Tampa, bro.

Speaker 5 The Patriots looking real, bro.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 To hell.

Speaker 5 I like Drake May. Oh, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 He was in there. He was standing in that pocket, dog.
He was making them throws, bro. Like, just not ignoring the spot to come.
He about to get bopped and making them on the money, though.

Speaker 5 Under pressure. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 Making sure only he's got it. Yes,

Speaker 5 I get it, bro.

Speaker 5 Yes, Ebo.

Speaker 5 Again,

Speaker 5 again,

Speaker 5 Henderson, that boy was 14, 147, two

Speaker 5 long TD, 69 and 55.

Speaker 5 Like, hey, he, he, he ran it. Listen, it don't hurt.
Right now, you midseason coach of the year, Mike Vabel. Period.
Mike Vraber.

Speaker 5 Style. Look what he took.
For sure.

Speaker 5 was they last year two and three and something

Speaker 5 yeah they were they was what is that eight and two

Speaker 5 hey

Speaker 5 and the game really wasn't even that close it was 28 23 but it really wasn't even that close because they temper really scored you know one of those trash touchdowns with like you know a minute and a half left in the game you know

Speaker 5 they went on head you know you preventing and all that but them boy bro

Speaker 5 He makes, and I'm talking in his face, throws that he got to put on the money, dude.

Speaker 5 That's the thing that I'm saying. What you're saying right there is making you me believe that's what I'm seeing the same thing.
We're seeing the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 Drake May is standing there in the heart of in the eye of the storm and throwing a lead pass like to the running. He doesn't have to slow down at all.
He's running full speed.

Speaker 5 He catches it in the deep. Like if he threw it behind him a little bit, it'd be a break up.
It might be picked.

Speaker 5 but he's standing in the eye no it's coming getting smacked and he's knowing this is coming he don't care and he's throwing it right ahead where he can catch it and run and turn the field he's throwing him in stride on a mic he's throwing him in stride so it's and it's not just one time it's a lot of times

Speaker 5 in the dig routes crossing routes yes

Speaker 5 i like this over the shoulder

Speaker 5 deep ones short ones

Speaker 5 I love, I love it. I love it.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's the true signs of a quarterback. He's not scared.
When you know know you're going to get hit, he's not flinching up.

Speaker 5 And I know A-Rod's a lot older, but just the ones where he was flinching up, throwing it high, because I know he's older. And those wearing tear hits, those hits,

Speaker 5 them hits feel different at you. Believe me, I know, bro.
I know. And I was doing the hitting, bro.
Listen. I never

Speaker 5 went to jump over a dude. That's when I said you got to jump over a dude, get out the way.
You can't hit him. Back when I first started, man, I just plow into him.

Speaker 5 Man, I went to jump over the dude, man. Somebody hit my feet and I landed flat on my back like that.
And I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 5 I ain't never felt this

Speaker 5 take me now give me a body

Speaker 5 bro the rams went on ahead and jumped on the uh jumped on the 49ers it was uh 42 26. stafford got into him

Speaker 5 yeah he went on ahead and went 24 uh well for 284 touchdowns i think the first half was 14 for like seven 175

Speaker 5 220s

Speaker 5 it was 21-0 before they even really knew what happened. I think halftime, 21-7.

Speaker 5 And then

Speaker 5 really, I think they started going back and forth. Jones ended up throwing a pick somewhere in between that third, fourth quarter that really just allowed them to jump back up.

Speaker 5 And it was really over with from there.

Speaker 5 I rock with Matthew Stafford, man. Like you said, he's throwing now 22.

Speaker 5 Quarterbacks, dude. Both of them doing well.

Speaker 5 yes that's crazy yes i think both both of the teams got good both of the teams got great ends of the deals on the trade i think that the rams matthew stafford for me showing he's been in here since 2009 bro first overall pick josh freeman was drafted in that draft class and he's still just in here consistent and being able to go now to the rams i think when people say like a lot of the yards and pro bows i think this could be the year where he can get show that he can get an mvp you know what i'm saying and really lead a team too because he's been doing doing it for a long time.

Speaker 5 But when you do it losing, people don't really, you know what I'm saying? Like, look at it. No question.
So I wanted to, I'm glad he can show that it's not, it wasn't really him.

Speaker 5 If you get a team around, get a defense, like he can, it's not his bad. He's 22 with two picks right now, like leading it up there in the MVP race.

Speaker 5 So I always just appreciated his, the way he can throw the ball, different angles. And, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 He's standing, like you said, he'll stand down the air of the battle and make sure he's, he's going to throw the ball, leading them right on the money. So he one of them quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 He's a candidate to be in that MVP discussion for sure.

Speaker 5 Monday night football we got coming up, dude, the Eagles. We got the Packers, Eagles, and the Packers.
What is it? Six and two Eagles,

Speaker 5 five, two, and one

Speaker 5 Packers. They did that.
They did that. They did.
They did that.

Speaker 5 They did that tie. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Hold up, brother. Hey, we got a super chat, though.
Lisa Wayne, 191, donated 20 bucks and said, can you do a live show for a game, please?

Speaker 5 Blessings to you and your family. Amen.
Yes, thank you. Blessings.
Can we do a live show, Joe? Should we do a live show, Joe, for a game? The reaction, let's talk about that, Joe.

Speaker 5 You think we should do that? Yeah, let's talk about that, man.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 I'm gonna be honest with you. We're gonna talk about it

Speaker 5 because I don't know, Lisa.

Speaker 5 I don't, Lynch, Lisa, Lynch, I don't know if I could do a live show because my live reactions

Speaker 5 may not be conducive

Speaker 5 to

Speaker 5 Devo. I that's that's the question that's not true.
I think it might be true.

Speaker 5 No, no, because I say what I feel right then and there before I get to the point. Me and you first, we gotta do and then me and you first gotta do a live show

Speaker 5 to say exactly what I said before,

Speaker 5 but I say it in a more um

Speaker 5 corrective way and not a derogatory

Speaker 5 okay personal attack way

Speaker 5 you just need to you know what you need we could do it with a delay like a like a little delay no so we could maybe maybe like a lot

Speaker 5 you know what i'm saying something like that we'll figure out look here we will be live lisa we will be live from super bowl in san francisco though

Speaker 5 oh we'll be live there yes we will come on down come on we will be there live so you you can get to see it right then and there live it won't be an actual game everybody come on out.

Speaker 5 We're ready or roll. That's where we're going to be.
Wherever it's going to be, we're going to let y'all know where we're going to be. And we're going to be there all week.

Speaker 5 We might be a few other places. We might, you know, we might make a stop, a few stops here and there, just a few pop-ups, let y'all see everything, get it going.

Speaker 5 Hey, come holler at your boy Joe, man. You never know.
You never know. Hey, Joe, what you say? You never know.
We may even let y'all

Speaker 5 ask some

Speaker 5 unclear live questions from your mouth right then and there.

Speaker 5 I ain't saying we're gonna answer it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 but we may let you ask them,

Speaker 5 you know, no, for sure. Definitely gonna answer.
Look here, man, we're running a little over right now. We want to thank you guys, man, again for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe, man.

Speaker 5 We're looking forward to seeing you guys tomorrow as we

Speaker 5 review that Monday night football with the Eagles and the Packers. Joe,

Speaker 5 yo, thank you guys for coming, man. Make sure you come out here and holler at us tomorrow when we will get that breakdown of the Packers versus the Eagles game.
Let's get it.

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