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Speaker 10 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Chargers move their record to 7-3, thanks to a 25-10 victory over the Steelers.

Speaker 10 In dominating fashion, the gang was really never close.

Speaker 10 Once they got the lead, they got a safety, and they took the lead. What was it? I think they took the lead 5-3, something like that.
And they really never looked back.

Speaker 10 Pittsburgh was unable to get anything going, be on the ground or through the air. And they dominate this game 25-10.
The Chargers are now 7-3 in second place in the division.

Speaker 10 While the Steelers are 5-4, they sit atop the

Speaker 10 division, but they are reeling. Thank you for joining us.
I'm your favorite Unc, Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 10 And that is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own Bingles Ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler and an all-pro. That is Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.

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Speaker 10 with three touchdowns, two rushing, and another one through the air, if I'm not mistaken. But he was sensational.

Speaker 10 But the game that you just watched tonight, Chargers beat the Steelers 25 to 10. Keenan Allen passes Antonio Gates for the most receptions in Chargers' history.

Speaker 10 Gates, a friend of mine, a pro football Hall of Famer, had 955, and now Keenan Allen has 9.56. But Ocho, watching this game last night,

Speaker 10 last night tonight.

Speaker 12 Steelers aren't good. Pure dominance.
Pure dominance from the Chargers. The Steelers aren't good.
They're not good enough. Obviously, offensively, you can't turn the ball over.

Speaker 12 It was

Speaker 12 the first two quarters. I was like, okay, this is a good game.
It's 3-2. You know, defense.

Speaker 12 Both defense playing extremely well. Both offenses really couldn't get nothing going.
But at some point, the Chargers,

Speaker 12 you know how they are. They're going to keep chipping and chipping and chipping.
At some point, that offense is going to to catch fire. They're going to start moving the ball.

Speaker 12 When they get in the red zone, they're going to score and put up some points. And the defense played so well.
They had Aaron Rodgers shook. They had him uncomfortable.

Speaker 12 He rushed some throws, some very, very bad habits. Even though he is a very good throw of the ball, some very bad habits causing balls to sail on him, which were really easy,

Speaker 12 easy completions, drop passes that ended up being interceptions. They really couldn't get anything going all night long.
On third down, the goddamn

Speaker 12 Steelers was

Speaker 12 what

Speaker 12 hold on i just had it right in front they were two two for 11.

Speaker 12 two 11 well you ain't you ain't finna do nothing with that you're not gonna do nothing with that at all so listen the chargers played really well even though they the the steelers lost the game they are still uh first in the division i think they were not for much longer though okay oh the bangles coming i'm glad you know that i'm glad hey see i'm glad you and you know you know football that's one thing i that's one thing i can say about you i don't care what they say but you know football.

Speaker 12 You know the Bengals coming to take that division over.

Speaker 10 No, there's no chance of that. Ocho, you mentioned that

Speaker 10 they're not good defensively.

Speaker 10 If they can't get to your quarterback, they're very average on the back end. Let's call it what it is.

Speaker 10 Chad, I know y'all like the Steelers

Speaker 10 and most of people my age and a lot of, they have a lot of fans. They travel really well.
But the Steelers aren't good.

Speaker 10 If those two guys outside can't get to your quarterback, if they can't attack your quarterback,

Speaker 10 give the quarterback any amount of time. They're either going to be a completion or it's going to be a holding.
That's what it is.

Speaker 10 And their offensive line, the Steelers' offensive line, isn't good. Aaron Rodgers is not as mobile as he once was.
So he can't keep continuously getting himself out of harm's way.

Speaker 10 He had some bad throws. They sailed on him.
He had DK early in the game, sailed that one. The other one, he hit the guy right between the numbers.
Yeah, Austin

Speaker 10 had one slip through his hand to get the pick. I don't know why the punt return is trying to, you saying get away, and then you tried to feel the ball.
You never feel the ball below your waist.

Speaker 10 If you got to go down here to catch it, oh Joe, you know you don't feel no punt like that. You've been feeling punts far too long to know

Speaker 10 you don't take a ball below your waist. And here you are trying to do something that you coached not to do, trying to be a hero.
And guess what? You give them another cheap, easy three points.

Speaker 10 But the Steelers, just watching the Steelers, and you watch, like I said, you watch them. And yeah, they're five and four there winning, but they're not good.

Speaker 10 They don't have a team that can compete for a championship.

Speaker 10 Now, Mike Thompson is going to go and tell them and give all these great clips and these great sound bites, but he knows deep down they don't have a team that can compete for a championship.

Speaker 12 The funny thing about it is they have the players on paper

Speaker 12 when they got some of the offseason acquisitions that they did get. I was like, okay, the Steelers are going to be nice.
The Steelers are going to be real nice.

Speaker 12 Obviously, getting Jalen Ramsey, you know, Darius Slay, big play Slayer there. TJ Watt, TJ Watt signed.
So they got Cam. Hey, we're done.
I'm like, okay, okay, you know what?

Speaker 12 On all three levels defensively, they're going to be all right.

Speaker 12 If there is a weakness, if there is a weak link, it'd probably be the second level, but they would make up for that on the back end and up front. But, Unk, listen, they, they,

Speaker 10 let's be real. Those are names.

Speaker 10 Those guys ain't played good in a while, Ocho. Let's be, we're going to keep it real tonight, I cap.

Speaker 10 There are names. Steelers are good with names.
They got big names, but those guys haven't played well in a while. That's why they're on other teams.

Speaker 12 Ugh, man, that's difficult.

Speaker 12 I know what you mean.

Speaker 12 Ramsey wanted out in Miami. He wanted out in Miami.
I thought the Steelers would have been a great situation for him.

Speaker 12 I think he's still one of the better corners, even though he's moved to safety. You got the experience with Ramsey.
Then you have Big Face Slate. Yeah, listen, Slay looked good last year

Speaker 12 when he was with Philly. He played extremely well.
Played extremely well well in the playoffs as well. So, I mean, when you say they haven't played.

Speaker 10 Yeah, when you had that pass rush, but what happened when them guys can't get home? And you got to hold just a tad longer?

Speaker 10 Like I said, if you look at the names on paper, the names, you, oh, he was a Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 Oh, he went to the Pro Bow.

Speaker 10 Oh, he went to the Pro Bowl. He's an all-pro.
He did this.

Speaker 10 But all the guys, they haven't played well in a while. They haven't.
That's not to say they weren't good at a particular time because every guy that you mentioned was. They were good.

Speaker 10 They're just not what they once were now. And that's what the Steelers need.
People are not, it used to be a time, Ocho, people were in awe of names. Now people

Speaker 10 will make an example out of you and use you to catapult themselves because of your name.

Speaker 10 And people say, look, well,

Speaker 10 all I know is like what Paul Pierce told me. He said, look, I beat Steph in the three-point competition.
I say, man, that man was his rookie year. Was he Steph Curry?

Speaker 10 Is he the greatest shooter of all time? I don't know how old he was.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 10 Ain't nobody going to care. Man, this guy was in his 13th year.
This guy was in his 11th year. All I know, was that who you said he was?

Speaker 10 They're not good. They're not.
They're just not.

Speaker 10 And at some point in time, we just got to, we got to call it. We got to call it like we see it.

Speaker 10 They got big names. But if Watt and High Smith can't get home,

Speaker 10 if that front can't get home, because they got Hebring and they got a couple of other guys, if those guys don't get home, oh, that ball getting completed on the back end. It's really that simple.

Speaker 10 It's really that simple.

Speaker 10 But they're not close, Ocho.

Speaker 10 I mean, look at this. They had 11 first downs.
There were 211 on third down. They had 221 yards of all.
Hold on. That's Aaron Rodgers, a quarterback.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 10 They had the ball, Ocho. They had the ball for 22.

Speaker 12 He had a bad day at the office, huh? He had a bad day at office. It happens.

Speaker 12 It happens to the best of us. It happens to some of the better teams, as we'll talk about later on in the show.
Teams that we expect to play well.

Speaker 12 I expect this to be probably one of the better games today.

Speaker 10 Out of the one o'clock in the past.

Speaker 12 Yes, I expect it to be one of the better games.

Speaker 12 The funny thing about the NFL, the funny thing about the NFL, it's just you get games like this where you're expecting to be

Speaker 12 not a blowout, but you expect it to be exciting. You expect it to be too off the team

Speaker 12 scoring back and forth and it it just wasn't that it just didn't give that so

Speaker 12 it's it's weird how it's weird how it we it's really really weird how that works week to week where you you you can never you can never really guarantee what's gonna happen

Speaker 10 i don't know what the steelers were thinking i don't know they they were supposed to be in play for waddle and there are a couple of other receivers they should have been in play for but they should have because really they don't have but one guy and and and and if he can't complete the ball to to dk it ain't getting completed the other The other guys are just guys.

Speaker 10 They're guys.

Speaker 10 Hey, they're

Speaker 10 twos,

Speaker 10 low twos, threes.

Speaker 12 But sometimes you got to win with that. Sometimes those twos and threes.

Speaker 10 You ain't win no championship with that.

Speaker 12 What do you mean? They have to make plays. They got to catch the ball.
This is the NFL. Every team

Speaker 12 can't have one ones or one-twos. You just can't.

Speaker 12 You have to make do with what you got. So it's up to those players, the Calvin Austins, you know, anyone outside the DK, the tight ends,

Speaker 12 they have to make those plays.

Speaker 10 Well, you need Steve Austin, the $6 million man in Pittsburgh, if you're going to make some plays with what they got. Because Aaron is not what he once was.
He can't move around like he was

Speaker 10 like he once did. He's not as accurate as he once was because you're forcing him to move.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers throwing interceptions. Man,

Speaker 10 there were times Aaron Rodgers threw four interceptions in a season.

Speaker 10 He's got four in the last two games.

Speaker 10 We never,

Speaker 10 this ain't the Aaron Rodgers that we're used to seeing. Yeah, he could have.

Speaker 10 The thing is, Ocho, and I've said this, having been having a player that played really good when I was young, and as I started to get older, the thing that I tell people, you can have a big game, you just can't have them with the regularity you did when you were in your prime.

Speaker 10 And we've seen Aaron Rodgers have games that remind you, that is the old Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 But they just don't come with the frequency like they once did. And that's what they need.
They needed Aaron Rodgers. They need MVP Aaron Rodgers that could carry

Speaker 10 an average or mediocre defense. He can't do that now.
As guys get what do they need, Ocho? What did Tom Brady need? Tom Brady needs guys that could elevate him.

Speaker 10 He needed a Godwin. He needed

Speaker 10 a Mike Evans. He needed a K-Doughten.
He needed Gronk to come back. He needed an Antonio Brown.
Those guys that he once won with in New England had gotten old.

Speaker 10 And they could no longer do, do, he could no longer elevate them. So now I need you to help pull me because I can't pull you guys no more.
I can't carry you no more. That's okay.

Speaker 10 But if the Steelers was going to stand pat with what they had, there's no way they thought that was good enough to win.

Speaker 10 No way.

Speaker 12 No way. Listen,

Speaker 12 we halfway through the season.

Speaker 12 They had some good games. They had some games where they played well.
Then they had some shitty games like tonight. I mean, you're going to have game.
You want want to be consistent as possible.

Speaker 12 You want to be as consistent as possible in being hitting your stride. You want to hit the stride offensively and defensively at the right time.
You don't want to peak too early.

Speaker 12 You want to peak too soon. You want to hit it at the right time.
I still think they do have a chance. The fact that they are still first in the division,

Speaker 12 they got to play better. They got to play better.

Speaker 12 We've seen teams have games like this. and then hit it right when it counts and when it matters most

Speaker 10 but we've seen them skate by a couple of victories victories

Speaker 10 that they could have.

Speaker 10 I mean, I don't think there were any games that

Speaker 10 they lost,

Speaker 10 that they should have won. But we've seen some games that they won they should have lost.

Speaker 10 That Jet game, if that guy doesn't fumble that ball,

Speaker 10 but it is what it is. We'll see.

Speaker 10 They played nine games. They're five and four.
There's eight games left.

Speaker 10 I don't believe they can hold the Ravens off.

Speaker 10 With the way the Ravens are currently playing, with Lamar playing at the level at which he's playing, I don't believe they can hold him off.

Speaker 12 All right, you know what? I'm going to let you have that one.

Speaker 12 I'm going to let you have that one because I was going to mention who they actually played, and the team they actually played did a phenomenal job today.

Speaker 12 And there's a reason why they're probably going to win the AFC East and rejuvenize their season.

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Speaker 10 the AFC East, that's New England's division.

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Speaker 10 Campbell said he met with Morton for an honest conversation to discuss some changes last Monday, a day after a stunning home loss to the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 10 Things looked a lot different on the field, Ojo. Detroit racked up a season high, 226 yards rushing, 546 yards total.

Speaker 10 Jameson Williams benefited from the change. He had six catches for a buck 19 and a touchdown.
It's the second time that he has eclipsed 100 yards this year.

Speaker 10 The first time came in week two against the Bears, in which he had 108.

Speaker 10 Not so pretty in this ball game. Frustration set in on Deron Payne, who punched Amon Ross St.
Brown. Payne was ejected.
I can see a potential one-to-two game suspension coming.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Easy. Easy.

Speaker 10 This is not the first time because there was a situation that he got into it with a former teammate. Remember, he got into it with a teammate.

Speaker 10 He got pieced up on the side. Well, the D-tackle.

Speaker 12 I remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 10 I remember that. Yes, yes.

Speaker 10 But the NFL is not going to take Kylie to this.

Speaker 10 I'm saying one to two games, two games on the high end. He's getting a minimum of at least one game.

Speaker 12 I say one game. I say one game.
If it is two, it's because he's a repeat offender in general. And just having issues like this, you know, on the field,

Speaker 12 they're going to be all right. Obviously,

Speaker 12 frustration said, and I'm not sure what Amon Ross said to him, but it was enough to piss him off. It was enough to piss him off.

Speaker 10 Ken Law said, Amon Ra punched him first. What receiver you know, Ocho, gonna punch a D-tackle?

Speaker 12 Me?

Speaker 12 Me?

Speaker 12 I didn't whooped on a few people. I had a fight with Sam Adams in the locker room.
Back in Cincinnati when he was with us.

Speaker 10 Hey, hey, hey, listen to me.

Speaker 10 How many, let me me ask you a question. How many D-tackles on the football field did you put on the field?

Speaker 12 Oh, no, I ain't doing it on the field. I did all my fighting in the locker room.

Speaker 10 Yeah. So, um,

Speaker 10 Payne was ejected. Jared Goff, 25 or 33, 320, three touchdowns, no interceptions.
Jameer Gilles, 15 carries, 142, two tubs. Uh, Montgomery,

Speaker 10 15 carries, 71 yards, 33 rush attempts, 226, 33 pass attempts, 320. Um, Amon Ross Saint Brown, no,

Speaker 10 J-Mo, six catches, a buck 19, one touchdown. Amon Ross St.
Brown had 5 for 58, never touchdown. Sam Laporta had 5 for 53.

Speaker 10 Raymond had 4 for 49. Mariota was 16 of 22, 213, two touchdowns.
They didn't run the ball particularly well at all.

Speaker 12 Listen,

Speaker 12 in order for the commanders to even have a chance, honestly, I'm just going to be honest with you,

Speaker 12 the person that gives them their best chance to win. Mariota's a good, he's a good quarterback.
He's a decent quarterback.

Speaker 12 He's a tier two

Speaker 12 borderline tier three quarterback.

Speaker 12 In order for the commanders to have a chance playing against a team like the Lions that can score well and put up crazy amount of points, you got to be able to match that in some way, shape, form, or fashion.

Speaker 12 You have to be able to match their output offensively. And if Jaden Daniels is not playing, it's slimmer than none.
Unless your defense got to play all-out world. They got to play out world.

Speaker 12 The goddamn Lions have 546 goddamn yards of offense today, man. 546 yards of offense.

Speaker 12 These are video game numbers in real life. And this is happening almost every week.
Even sometimes in their losses, they put up crazy numbers.

Speaker 12 They was five.

Speaker 10 What get them in trouble is when they turn it over. That's it.

Speaker 10 When the Lions don't turn it over, we remember that's how they lost against Washington. Right, right, right.

Speaker 12 And it was zero turnovers a day.

Speaker 12 Zero turnovers. Third down, they were five or ten.
And on four down, obviously,

Speaker 12 I don't give a goddamn what analytics say. Forget what analytics say.
Dan Campbell is going foot on four down. They were two for two on four down today.

Speaker 12 That's going to break your back every time at the defense because now you're thinking you're going into a game and you want to play well, especially offense like that. You stop them on three downs.

Speaker 12 Boom. You're somewhat happy because you're thinking in your mind, God damn, we can get off the field.
Now we got to punt. They got to punt.
And here they go. Fourth and two, fourth and one.

Speaker 12 Shoot fourth and fourth sometimes. They going for it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, depending on where they are on the field.

Speaker 12 They definitely going for it.

Speaker 10 Down and distance,

Speaker 10 position on the field is more determining than down and distance. It used to be down and distance.
If it's fourth and short, oh, we're going to go for it. Now we're going to damn.

Speaker 10 It could be fourth and four. If they plus 50, they plus 50.

Speaker 12 Plus 50 is a good one. I think they're a little bit more cautious forth and anything further than that.
But once they cross that 30 yards, once they cross that 30 yards, and they always,

Speaker 12 hey, this is four-down territory for them.

Speaker 12 Anything past the 30, it's a wrap. They're going for it.

Speaker 10 I agree. I agree.
But they look good.

Speaker 10 I don't know how long. I don't know.

Speaker 10 We've seen this before. He took over the play calling from an ex-teammate of mine, Anthony Lynn, was calling.
But I think they had lost like all the...

Speaker 10 They had lost a bunch of games that he took the play calling over. So I don't know if he's going to continue to do that

Speaker 10 or at some point in time turn it back over. But I don't see him turning it back over when they had this kind of production and the Rams.

Speaker 10 And the Lions look like the Lions that we thought they were going to look like.

Speaker 10 With this Arsenal,

Speaker 10 the two-headed monster they got, Gilves got speed to burn. Absolutely.
Montgomery run well between the tackle. He can catch the ball.
They do a great healthy mix. Both guys got 15 carries.

Speaker 10 Nobody feels like they're being left out.

Speaker 12 You know what's funny about that when it comes to the play calling? Remember, I told you

Speaker 12 when Ben Johnson left and we talked about whether the Lions still look the same. I said, they still have the same players.
They still have the same players.

Speaker 12 And obviously, the merry-go-round of who's going to call the plays and who's not, I think that really doesn't matter.

Speaker 12 It's just about whoever's calling the plays, finding a rhythm and putting those players in position to work.

Speaker 12 Now, you got to understand, when the Lions do play, the game they played where they didn't look

Speaker 12 right the way they should offensively or based on they didn't look the way we're used to seeing them. Well, hell, the other team on the other side of the ball get paid too, huh?

Speaker 12 The team on the other side of the ball gets paid too. And you look at games where the Eagles have lost and we're used to seeing them.
seeing them play well or Saquon hasn't been going off today.

Speaker 12 Well, hell, the goddamn, the film is out there now. We know what to do.
We know how to stop them.

Speaker 12 So it's not like they playing against themselves they are playing against other people that get paid millions of dollars as well that watch film that study that know their tendencies so i think it's sometimes i mean we get caught up in who's calling the plays where they look this way because dan campbell was called i i really don't think it really matters much because the personnel they have offensively is so goddamn good it's so good they're gonna just execute whatever you goddamn call but

Speaker 10 we used to see but that's the thing though i i think putting putting that personnel in position, because that was the same personnel they had before they got.

Speaker 10 What's the guy at New Orleans now calling the plays?

Speaker 12 Oh, Mr. Moore.
Mr. Moore, yeah.

Speaker 10 The guy before Kelly Moore didn't do that with that off. That was the same players.
They didn't go to the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, they faltered down the stretch.

Speaker 10 When Shane Steichen had them, they went to the Super Bowl. Shane Steichen has a competent quarterback now.
Look at what they're doing.

Speaker 10 So, yeah, obviously play call players matter it's it's still gems and joes but somebody got to put those gems and joes because hey everybody everybody got the same chess piece on the board but everybody don't know how to play right right right and

Speaker 12 you're right you're right about that and the funny thing this is the good thing about when you when it comes to your tier one players at certain positions when you have those chess pieces and some chess pieces are a little better than others where you lack when it comes to calling plays the chess piece is so good they can overcome that bad play calling.

Speaker 12 They can overcome that bad play calling depending on who the player is. Hell, it's a lot of receivers that can save a quarterback that throws bad balls.

Speaker 12 You know, I mean, yeah, I'm trying to say it in that sense.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but it's still, you're right.

Speaker 10 It's still the Jeffs and the Joes, but it definitely helps when people can put people in a position to do what they do. Because you look at Kellen Moore, he in New Orleans.

Speaker 10 How'd that working out for him?

Speaker 10 He ain't got, he's still, he's running the same offense that he ran in New Orleans.

Speaker 10 He calls the same plays, but he ain't got Jalen Hurts, and he don't got Saquon, and he don't got Devontae, and he don't got AJ. So therefore, it's not going to look the same.

Speaker 10 And that offensive line isn't the same. So with that being said, you're not going to get the same results.
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Speaker 10 But at the end of the day, the more good players you have, the better your chances are winning.

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Speaker 10 Baltimore defense showed up today. Season high, two interceptions, 12 quarterback hits.
Baltimore stopped the Vikings 11 times on third down, three times on fourth down.

Speaker 10 After giving up an NFL's worst 177 points in the first five games, Baltimore held his past four opponents under 20 points a game. Marlon Humphrey, that's a big key.
The mindset shift.

Speaker 10 Even though we have Lamar Jackson, let's give him a smoke break. Let's give him a day off.
He bailed us out so many times. How about we do it for him?

Speaker 10 Lamar Jackson was 17 of 29, 176, one touchdown. They ran the ball 36 times for a buck 52.
Jose Flowers were four for 75.

Speaker 10 I mean, nobody really had a whole lot. You know, they ran the ball today.
Derrick Henry was

Speaker 10 20 rushes for 75 yards. J.J.
McArthur was 20 of 42, 248, one touchdowns, two interceptions.

Speaker 10 And they lost a fumble.

Speaker 10 So.

Speaker 12 Yeah, the defense played really well tonight. I mean, today.
Yeah,

Speaker 12 they played really well.

Speaker 12 I don't think this game, obviously, I mean, they scored the points, but this game was one. When you think about the Vikings and how explosive they can be,

Speaker 12 the defense played really well

Speaker 12 in all three for hell as collectively as a team, they played well. Justin Jefferson looked a little frustrated today.
JJ McCarthy

Speaker 12 missed him on some key throws that should have been catches, that should have been big plays. Outside of that, I can read Justin's body language and

Speaker 12 I know how it feels as a receiver

Speaker 12 to have a quarterback that can get you the ball or not put the ball in certain places where it should be.

Speaker 12 So outside of that,

Speaker 12 Lamar looked good. It wasn't a crazy day offensively, especially statistically for him.
But he had one TD. He didn't turn the ball over.

Speaker 10 This game should have been a long time.

Speaker 10 The Ravens couldn't get the ball in the end zone. How many times did they have in a goal to score situation on Joe and had a center for field goal?

Speaker 10 That's not the right. The one thing we know about the Ravens formally, when they get the ball down there, either Lamar is going to throw it in or Derrick Henry's going to run it in.

Speaker 10 And I'm like, damn, are y'all?

Speaker 10 I mean, they had nine points, and they like, hold on, let me see what they were.

Speaker 2 I think they were.

Speaker 10 No, they had to be.

Speaker 12 They were three and four.

Speaker 12 They were two for five.

Speaker 10 I'm like, well, damn. I'm like, I said, Baltimore, y'all are going to mess right around.
And let them come back.

Speaker 10 Kicking field goals, get your ass kicked, score a touchdown, and let you kick someone else's ass.

Speaker 12 and you know how difficult you i mean you you and i both know how difficult listen it's easy it's easy to to score when you when you score from long long out once you get inside that 20 that 20 and in especially going against a good defense like the minnesota bikins everything becomes that much more difficult everything becomes that much more difficult because they they are a good defense even though they lost today they are a very very good defense and it's easier to read and react when you're in a small area, especially a small area that's compacted.

Speaker 10 We normally say that, but when our team got Lamar Jackson, one of the top three quarterbacks in the league, and you got Derrick Henry, one of the all-time great running backs, it shouldn't be that difficult, Ocho.

Speaker 10 I mean,

Speaker 10 it shouldn't be that difficult. Now, you really, really put pressure on a young quarterback.
Now, all of a sudden, instead of nine points, you got 21 points.

Speaker 10 Now,

Speaker 10 let's see how well you can play.

Speaker 10 But they got it going to, you know, they took the lead in the

Speaker 10 third quarter. They scored 10 points.
Then they get eight in the in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 10 But I thought, you know, look, as long as the Ravens don't turn the ball over, because you can't turn the ball over when your defense is mediocre to average.

Speaker 10 And that's what the Ravens have defensively, Ocho. They don't rush the passer well enough to like to be.

Speaker 10 They don't get after your quarterback like the Broncos.

Speaker 10 They don't get after your quarterback like the Rams or the Texans. That's not what they have.

Speaker 10 So the last thing you want to do, Ocho, is turn the ball over, make it a short field.

Speaker 10 Because the likelihood of you turning it over, they're going to probably cash it in on you.

Speaker 10 You're going to probably cash it in on you, Ojo.

Speaker 10 I mean, I wish I could tell you something different, but look, I agree with Marlon Humphrey. Hey, I got good news and bad news.
Ravens will won three straight games. That's the good news.

Speaker 10 The bad news, y'all not getting those games back.

Speaker 10 Y'all not getting them games back.

Speaker 10 No PlayStation, no pool, no table tennis, no poppy shot.

Speaker 12 It's so funny, too. It's so funny when you make a move like this.
So when Lamar says, listen, this is what we're doing. We're going to do it with this stuff so we can lock in and focus on football.

Speaker 12 And you start winning and you get a string of wins. And mentally, you know,

Speaker 12 it has everybody thinking, well, damn, this is the reason we're winning.

Speaker 12 When honestly,

Speaker 12 just to be honest with you, that has nothing to do with it. That had nothing to do with it at all.

Speaker 10 No, you're right.

Speaker 12 Hey.

Speaker 10 Oh, Joe, we're going to come back to it. But here's a guy today who had a second career game with over 200 yards from scrimmage.

Speaker 10 He had 28 touches, 225 yards, two touchdowns as the Dolphins upset the Buffalo Bills by the score of 30 to 13. Devon Ed Chad.
Devon, how you doing, bro?

Speaker 12 What's good? What's good? Hey, D, D, hold up. D, don't, don't talk to him.
Don't talk to him. Listen, don't talk to him.
And he's been talking trash about us.

Speaker 12 He's been talking trash about about us for a minute, about three, four weeks straight.

Speaker 12 Hey, D, he calling us guppies. Oh, you rooted for the guppy.
You root for the guppies. But hey, today, he now he quiet.
He being real. He being real polite.

Speaker 12 Hey, keep that same energy. Let's keep that same energy.
You know, hey, hey, hell of a game today, boy. Hella, hell of a game today.

Speaker 12 And, and, and we're, as, as a team, as a team, y'all know things weren't going well.

Speaker 12 What inspired or what kept y'all boys locked in when it seemed like from the outside, looking in, things weren't going right?

Speaker 12 You know, your quarterback is saying certain things, and I'm thinking me being in the locker room before, it would kind of make everybody splinter.

Speaker 12 How have y'all stayed together and went out there and been able to perform in a game like today? Where if you were the betting man, everybody and their mama bet on Buffalo.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you know, so I mean, how y'all did it, man? I'm curious,

Speaker 12 man.

Speaker 12 Like, all them meetings that everybody was talking about, saying play only means this, this is that but bro that that actually brung us together bro like like you said um we had like the games like three four weeks all this nonsense people been saying about us like but we just make sure that we kept everything

Speaker 12 you know in-house and made sure like bro like it don't matter who we playing we gotta make sure that we go out and we're gonna play 100 bro like it don't matter our record no matter what they saying uh

Speaker 12 No, like the meeting and stuff like that, bro. You sign that contract.
When you're on that field, you gotta, I need you playing 100%.

Speaker 12 So, man, that's all it was, man. That's us being the buns and.

Speaker 12 Now, that team camaraderie that we got, man, I just feel like, you know, it shows.

Speaker 12 It showed today, because I can say, like, we play a great football game on all from offense, defense, especially teams, bro.

Speaker 12 And I just feel like, bro, we just, like, the work that we put in, bro, I just feel like today was, okay, it showed like this, like, the team that we could beat. Yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 12 Now, despite all the noise that I get to hear from the outside, I'm sure you guys probably ignore it. But you expect most of the time, oh,

Speaker 12 teams quit on their coaches and i've i've seen it happen before when when things aren't going well or the media talk about you know the everybody's gonna be gone or they need a quarterback i mean whatever it may be but the fact that what y'all showed today is mike mcdaniel still has a locker room y'all playing not just for him but for y'all as well as a team collectively and i just told um i'm gonna tell you what i think you know i think y'all gonna run the table I think y'all gonna run the table.

Speaker 12 We got eight games left. And hey, New England in trouble, nigga.
As far as I'm concerned,

Speaker 12 how you feel, huh?

Speaker 12 How you feel? Fans up, hold on.

Speaker 10 Y'all gonna run a table?

Speaker 12 That's what we're doing.

Speaker 10 Oh, y'all shoot. You shoot, pool, lojo.

Speaker 10 Let me get that, George. Let me get that right there.
Let me get that. Hey, hey, Jay, hey, how you pool? How your pool game is, Chad?

Speaker 12 Come on, man.

Speaker 12 I can get mine right now.

Speaker 10 Oh, that's not what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 10 I'm going to have to come on down to South Florida and see what's really going on.

Speaker 12 It might as well have the opportunity there. Why not run a table?

Speaker 10 That's it. Why not? You know what? But watching this game is that when you guys can keep the game close and they can keep the ball in your hands, be it running it or throwing it to you.

Speaker 10 You get behind by 14, 21 points, and it's hard to continue to pound the ball because you can't run your way back in the game.

Speaker 10 You guys got the lead today, and they were still able to hand you the ball. Now, you didn't have a boatload of carry, but you had 22 carries, and you're a threat.

Speaker 10 There are only a handful of backs that are a legit threat that every time they touch the football, they'll threaten to hit their head on the goalpost. You're one of those guys.

Speaker 10 You, Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley, there are not a whole lot of guys that can hit their head on the goalpost from anywhere on the field. You're one of those guys.
So when I'm looking at you,

Speaker 10 tell me what your mindset was. Like, damn, you know, I know what I can do because your name was brought up in the

Speaker 10 trade discussions. Everybody wanted you.
So that got to be a good feeling. Damn.
But I kind of like it in Miami.

Speaker 12 miami most definitely that's why that's what i want to be but um like you said man like you said um when i'm on the field man every time i touch the ball i'm trying to go to the crib but that's

Speaker 12 catching tomorrow i got like you know what i'm saying like i'm touching i'm trying to i'm trying to get going but um like you said man on today i feel like

Speaker 12 it was we was like when we when we as an offense when we not having those little issues for us like behind the sticks and no false thoughts and like No, just stuff like that.

Speaker 12 I feel like when we ahead of the sticks and we stay on schedule, like, bro, we can move the ball against anybody i just feel like bro we just hurt ourselves a lot and that kind of make us do stuff that we're not comfortable with doing and make us get away from stuff that we know work

Speaker 12 but like you said today man we when we was ahead of the sticks we ran the ball good we passed good and like you said bro we can move the ball against anybody we just got to make sure we stay on schedule hey that's that's that's all that's all it come down to honestly i think a lot a lot of people talk trash you know a lot of people talk trash and say what they want to say but if we're able to yes i said we uncom because i'm from miami i'm from liberty city I, when we able to, hey, you ain't playing for the Dolphins, though.

Speaker 12 I'm from Miami. I'm from Liberty City.
This is all I know. All I know is that Miami Dolphins.
That's it. So it's we.
That's how you know. Yeah.
It's always going to be we.

Speaker 10 You know, the Bengals. He's a Bingles.
Don't let it fool you, Tam.

Speaker 12 No, yeah, I know he messes with the Bingles.

Speaker 10 For sure. Exactly.

Speaker 12 I respect it. I appreciate it.
I appreciate it. But I'm saying,

Speaker 10 I don't.

Speaker 10 Hey, hey, I mean,

Speaker 12 just being, I'm being honest.

Speaker 12 I know, talk, you know, saying run the table, but if we can minimize, like Dee said, if we can minimize the turn, not only the turnovers, but the self-inflicting wounds, you know, offensively and not have to play from behind the sticks, and

Speaker 12 we can jump out on people and force them to do uncharacteristic things to get themselves back in the game, it looked like this every week. It can look like this every week, Uncle.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 10 I think the biggest thing that you guys did today, you guys won the turnover battle.

Speaker 10 Although Tua did have two interceptions, you forced the bills into three turnovers and you won the turnover battles you spoke about how you like playing in front of the sticks man it's hard to keep overcoming second and 15 third and 12 third and 15.

Speaker 10 it's hard first and 15.

Speaker 10 man you're not going to make a living overcoming that down and distance down in and down out you guys were able to stay in front of the sticks as you mentioned run the football when they thought when you like you know what hey it's second and five they can run it or they can pass it and you kept it in a situation where they really couldn't sit the

Speaker 10 hunker down and said, we know what they're going to do and get a beat on it. But you guys played really well.
You ran the button. Well, you run hard.
You run every week.

Speaker 10 It's just that a lot of times you're so far behind. Don't nobody really care.

Speaker 12 Hey, Uncle, and you know what? It's a good time. Because remember when I said the Dolphins were going to beat the Bills and you laughed at me and said, yeah, nah, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 10 Yep, you said that, Ocho.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I did say that. And now is a good time to apologize to me and

Speaker 12 D if you want to. And in the chat as well you can you can apologize to the chat as well if you if you if you want to no i'm not gonna do that

Speaker 10 oh hey hey hey hey hey hey hey train guess what

Speaker 10 we'll see where his loyalties lie because the dolphins play the band

Speaker 10 win we're gonna win

Speaker 10 don't worry about winning they play

Speaker 10 tomorrow you gonna play

Speaker 12 At the crib. I'm gonna be there.
I'm gonna be there.

Speaker 10 Oh, who you gonna be cheering for?

Speaker 10 All my ass. Who are you going to be cheering for?

Speaker 12 I'm going to see what jersey you got on.

Speaker 10 That's what I want to see.

Speaker 12 I'm going to wear mature jersey.

Speaker 10 I bet you don't. I bet you don't.

Speaker 10 I bet it don't.

Speaker 12 I'm wearing mature jersey. And then

Speaker 10 I bet you that man don't have on no guppy jersey.

Speaker 12 Oh, my bad dog. You see how he disrespected that husband?

Speaker 10 That's lip. That's lip, man.
That's me. That's on me.
That's on me. My bad.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I bet he don't have on that jersey.

Speaker 12 That's the whole thing. D, and up.
Well, honestly, when Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey played,

Speaker 12 they mama, what did they do? She cheered for both of them, right?

Speaker 10 Yeah. Tell them they both are sons.
You ain't played for both teams.

Speaker 10 I don't give a shit.

Speaker 12 I don't even care with the Dolphins. What do you talk about?

Speaker 10 Do you know how many people did trade a camp with the Dolphins?

Speaker 12 I put on the jersey and I sweated. I sweated and I got hit.

Speaker 12 I'm pulling you on the shit.

Speaker 10 I just wanted you to hear it for yourself. Because if I'd have told you, you'd say, nah, Ocho, Ocho ain't like that.
He liked that.

Speaker 10 He going to have on since that day. He's going to be all up and chasing you.

Speaker 10 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on.

Speaker 12 Hey, hold on. You got to understand.
This is my birthplace. That's the only team I know.
I know. The Bengals allowed me

Speaker 12 to live out a childhood dream. That has to be my, you know, that's my team.

Speaker 10 Okay, what did the Dolphins allow you to do?

Speaker 12 They gave me an opportunity to finish my career at home in Liberty City in front of all my homeboys, but I fucked it up.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 12 I messed it up.

Speaker 10 You a bingo. You are a big baby.

Speaker 12 I got a dolphins tattoo on my shoulder.

Speaker 12 Come on, Dan. Let him know.
Yeah, what you talking about?

Speaker 10 No, he don't. He got a tiger.

Speaker 12 Nah, that's on this shoulder. I got a bengals tattoo and a dolphins tattoo.
Man, fans up, man. What you talking about?

Speaker 10 Oh, hold on. Y'all got.

Speaker 10 Y'all did. Y'all on the hold on.
What's the day date? Y'all got the 16th. Oh, y'all, y'all play the commanders overseas.

Speaker 12 I'm gonna be there, Tuesday.

Speaker 12 You lead them all.

Speaker 10 Oh, y'all lead them all.

Speaker 12 I lead Tuesday. I'm gonna be out there.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I'm gonna be out there.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah, yeah. See, I'm going to support my team.
Think about that. Why would I fly all the way to Spain?

Speaker 10 Cause the NFL paying you.

Speaker 12 That too. But I'm going to support my team.

Speaker 10 Don't let, hey, Jay, don't let it fool you. Hey, act like you don't know.
And when the bingles come.

Speaker 12 Nah, nah.

Speaker 12 Listen.

Speaker 10 You don't know no Ocho.

Speaker 12 Is it even playing for you?

Speaker 12 If you got a two-a jersey, young D. See, see I'm talking about?

Speaker 10 He ain't gonna have

Speaker 10 Jan. You think that man gonna have a two of jersey on in front of the bingos?

Speaker 12 He's playing in Miami, on how to be walking through the stadium in front of my people in another jersey that's not dolphins.

Speaker 10 Hold on, tell me. So let me see this right.
Mike Brown, Brown, Katie,

Speaker 10 Dick. Oh, so you have you gonna have one of that jersey? So, you're gonna walk up to Katie and Mike Brown in a dolphin jersey and hug him and say, How y'all, I'm not even gonna be on the field.

Speaker 12 They're not gonna see me. I'm being, I'm gonna be in this.

Speaker 10 I'm gonna be in this.

Speaker 12 You're gonna be in the stadium.

Speaker 10 You see that? Because every time somebody come on here, can you get me tickets on the sideline? Can I build a side? Now, you don't want to be on the sideline.

Speaker 10 Your team is not going to be able to do that. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 12 This is the funny thing. I be playing around by getting tickets on the sideline, but my face is clean.
I don't even need tickets. I can just walk in any stadium.

Speaker 12 That's all 32 stadiums because it's me. It's me.

Speaker 10 You ain't going to walk in that stadium

Speaker 10 with no dolphins jersey on in the bingo street.

Speaker 12 No, I'm respectful. That's one thing about me.

Speaker 10 I got respect.

Speaker 10 You see that? You see, I had to change it too. Chad, you see it? You see it?

Speaker 12 You can't give me an explanation on why would I at home blatantly disrespect the team that I like and love and grew up watching and wear a Bengal jersey because that's where I played.

Speaker 12 That's disrespectful.

Speaker 10 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying you in Miami, you spent 10 of your 11 years in Cincinnati.
Now, if you show up with a Patriots jersey,

Speaker 12 that don't make no sense.

Speaker 12 Hold on, hold on, I spent 10, 11 years in Cincinnati, right?

Speaker 12 But I spent 57 years in Dade County.

Speaker 10 So, I mean, and not in nobody, but not in no Dolphins jersey. I did.

Speaker 12 I had a Dolphins jersey when I was.

Speaker 10 You had on Dickies. You had on Tough Skins.
You had on Pro Cans. you did not have on no fans jersey.

Speaker 12 I had my listener.

Speaker 12 Hey, I had my first, I had my first Dam Marino jersey. I had a pair of black dickies and some Travel Fox.
You remember Travel Fox's shoes?

Speaker 12 No, no, okay. Well, I'm just telling you, that's them telling you.

Speaker 10 Okay, what did you do with that? What did you do with that? Uh, that Super Bowl gear that you got from New England.

Speaker 12 Oh, man, I let that junk go, man. I don't care nothing about that.

Speaker 10 Ah, that he a la,

Speaker 10 it was probably, hey, die, you the LA.

Speaker 10 Okay, where your Miami Dolphins Super Bowl game? Oh, hold on. It's right here.
Hold on.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 10 Man, chat, don't let it fool you. But hey, outstanding game today, man.
You running that thing today, bro.

Speaker 10 You was talking today.

Speaker 12 There he go.

Speaker 10 There he go. Look at it.

Speaker 12 Don't be jealous of the Samoan Warrior. You jealous of the Samoan Warrior.
What you talking about?

Speaker 10 Yeah, you see what I'm talking about. You see what I'm talking about?

Speaker 12 You're talking about this fake.

Speaker 10 Fake. That jersey fake and he fake me

Speaker 12 $400. This is the real thing.
This two award is in the game.

Speaker 12 Come on, real deal. It's a real deal.
What you talking about, man?

Speaker 10 Come on, first of all, to a jerk.

Speaker 10 I know that two ain't wearing that in the game because those sleeves ain't fitted.

Speaker 10 Two or jerks. The sleeves are fitted.
Am I correct?

Speaker 12 Yeah, this is the other one, though.

Speaker 12 I got this from the equipment man.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Hey, well, you must be got that out of the van down on a what that street is where you at?

Speaker 12 Who?

Speaker 10 See?

Speaker 10 You see, hey, you see, he lies so much. Look at the camera.
Go out, Chan. You see how that camera?

Speaker 10 I ain't lying.

Speaker 10 I'm glad you had to be on here to hear it. Because if I'd have told you, you wouldn't have believed it.
See, hey, he come back.

Speaker 12 Hey, fans up, huh?

Speaker 10 Well, okay, fans up. Hey, man, congratulations, man.

Speaker 10 Hey, hold on.

Speaker 10 Now, it was reported, I don't know, you could confirm confirm or deny that they took the poppy shot. They say you were the poppy shot king.
They say they took it out.

Speaker 10 So, I mean, I can't come down there and get me a couple of dollars off y'all because I was the poppy shot king back in my day.

Speaker 12 Yeah, but they took it. They took it out, bro.

Speaker 10 They took it out.

Speaker 10 If it's coming back, I mean, y'all want to. How many games you got to win before it to come back?

Speaker 12 Now we're good, bro.

Speaker 10 There you go. That's what I'm talking about.
Hey, hey, we locked in.

Speaker 12 We don't need no poppy shot.

Speaker 10 We don't need no poppy shot.

Speaker 12 Hey, y'all had a ping-pong table or no?

Speaker 12 No.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 12 We had two basketball goals in the

Speaker 12 okay.

Speaker 10 No pool table, nothing like yo, no gamers or anything like that.

Speaker 12 No, you know, we got like a little lounge, but it wasn't locker room, we just had a little pop shot thing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but we don't need that.

Speaker 12 All right,

Speaker 10 it ain't

Speaker 12 they took it out, bro.

Speaker 10 Congratulations on the big win today. 30 to 13.
Devon and Chan had 120 77 yards rushing two touchdowns on 22 carries. Damn, man, average a day.
I'm near seven yards.

Speaker 12 That's what we do down here.

Speaker 10 Hold on.

Speaker 12 It was about time I had one of the games. It was, it was.

Speaker 10 Hey, you, plus, you saw how long.

Speaker 10 Man, they got James Cook. They talking about Cook over there on the other side.
They talking about him. They forgot about.
They must have forgot.

Speaker 10 Let me go on and do this right quick.

Speaker 12 Don't get me wrong, he's nice, but

Speaker 12 defense they was on one today.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 they did their thing today, they was on, though. Taking the ball away, they did a great job of neutralizing him.
You did a great job of running the running the ball.

Speaker 10 And when you run the ball, you can play action. Tua had some great play action fakes, threw a couple touchdowns over the top.
Man, congratulations.

Speaker 10 Stay healthy and look forward to talking to you down the road, man. Appreciate it.
Devon A chance. All right, bro.

Speaker 10 Appreciate it, bro. Have a good one.

Speaker 10 oh you know the nfl network reported this morning the bills offered a 2027 first round draft choice to the dolphins for jalen waddle but the dolphins insisted that it be in next year's first round um

Speaker 12 do you get the sense that the dolphins are rebuilding i mean yeah we you know they're rebuilding we we've talked about this before um I think at this point, regardless of how they do, regardless of how they finish the season,

Speaker 12 they're probably going to clean house.

Speaker 12 Knowing Stephen Ross and the businessman that he is, he's sick of the rumblings. I think he's sick of the rumblings.
He wants to change the culture.

Speaker 12 Some of the stuff that has come out outside that locker room, well, come out that's been going on inside that locker room.

Speaker 12 He's probably going to want to change course and try to do things in a different direction no matter what. So I think

Speaker 12 it's inevitable. Change is inevitable.

Speaker 12 So I'm hoping

Speaker 12 that all the players do all they can because this is their resume. Every week, each week,

Speaker 12 they're auditioning, not just for the Dolphins, but for somewhere else as well.

Speaker 10 But this doesn't make sense. You'd be high.
Why would you trade Jalen Water to a division opponent? I don't give a damn if they did give me a first-round draft. You're right.

Speaker 12 You're right. I mean, listen, obviously, first-round pick.

Speaker 12 for the unknown.

Speaker 12 I don't like trading players that you know what they can do. You understand the value that Jalen Waddell is, yeah, unknown, even if it is a first-round pick.

Speaker 12 It just,

Speaker 10 but I don't mind trading a player, Ocho. I got the problem with that, but I'm not trading a player like that in my division.

Speaker 10 Yeah, hey, but the funny thing is, hey, Jalen Waddell can't be more than 27 years old if he's that old. How old is Jalen Waddell? He can't be more than 26, 27

Speaker 10 because he came out early.

Speaker 10 He's 26.

Speaker 12 Yeah, yeah, he's still a baby. only 27 in the three weeks.

Speaker 10 Oh, he'll be 26. Okay, he'll be 26.
But think about it, Ocho. Why would I trade a 27-year-old in my own division? A guy that's been to the Pro Bowl? A guy that's had over 100 catches in a season?

Speaker 12 Well, because you know what you're getting ready to do for the future. You understand what you can.
And the

Speaker 12 fact that they even listen lets you know what's going to happen in the future. I mean, that's all.

Speaker 12 The writing is on the wall. The writing is on the wall.
And you can't think like Shannon Sharp. And the people in the chat, you can't think like fans.
You have to think like an owner.

Speaker 12 You got to think like an owner.

Speaker 10 I tell you what.

Speaker 10 The Cowboys,

Speaker 10 the Eagles called the Cowboys in March about Michael Parsons. They were so afraid of Michael Parsons, they put a poison pill in the green days.

Speaker 12 You didn't have to. This ain't no.

Speaker 10 Well, why are you?

Speaker 12 This ain't no ordinary player. This ain't no ordinary player.

Speaker 12 Jerry Jones understand what Michael Parsons is. You understand how valuable that person is.
You understood that.

Speaker 10 everybody that you won't jalen waddle in buffalo with Josh Allen

Speaker 12 in your division.

Speaker 12 That would have been nad. That would have been nasty, bro.

Speaker 10 Exactly. And damn, and I'm not saying Jalen Waddell is the equivalent of a receiver as Michael Parsons is as

Speaker 10 a edge rusher, but I'm saying you put Jalen Waddle with that kind of speed with Josh Allen, with their ability to play action.

Speaker 12 That'd be nasty.

Speaker 10 Man, please. That'd be real nasty.
Ain't no way.

Speaker 10 ain't no way oh y'all let's get back to the ravens marlon humphrey this has been a big key the mindset shift even though we have lamar jackson let's give him a smoke break let's give him a day off he bailed us out so many times how about we do it and they played well uh go back to this uh ravens ravens on minnesota

Speaker 10 i thought like i said i i thought that the the the ravens could have really opened this game up a lot earlier had they cashed in some of those uh those

Speaker 10 you know red zone possessions got touchdowns instead of having to kick field goals. But hey,

Speaker 10 they didn't,

Speaker 10 but give them credit. But they kept, you know, kept going, kept going, kept going.
And then they finally got the big lead.

Speaker 10 And then they forced the turnover late to

Speaker 10 turn over on downs. I think they turned them over on downs.
Naylon had five catches for Buck 24. Justin Jefferson had four for 37 on 12 targets.

Speaker 10 George Addison, he had three catches for 35 yards on 11 targets.

Speaker 10 so jj mccarthy was slightly was less than 42 percent less than 50 20 of 42 for 248 one touchdown two interceptions they read they you know ran the ball yeah aaron jones looked good but

Speaker 12 hey

Speaker 12 the vikings organization has to be kicking themselves they got to be kicking themselves for allowing sam donald to get out that door

Speaker 12 For allowing him to get out that door as well as he played last year.

Speaker 12 I know the first round of playoffs, it didn't look look right. It didn't look good.
But Sam Donnell gives you your best chance.

Speaker 12 After seeing what he was able to do, they still let him go for the unknown. And the unknown is what you're seeing right now with J.J.
McCarthy. You know, he's up and down.
He has some good plays.

Speaker 12 He's been a dual threat, but

Speaker 12 he misses multiple throws, multiple plays. And now you see why they didn't.
No disrespect. Now you see why they wanted Carson Wentz to stay in as long as he could.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 But that's what, after he got throw for Ocho, the way Sam Darno played, he threw for 30-plus touchdowns, fewer than 15 interceptions. Bro, you don't let that walk out the door.

Speaker 10 Everybody's not, everybody's not throwing for mid-30s, high-30 touchdowns with low interception. That's not happening.
And he had a great report with the receiving core.

Speaker 10 Aaron Jones ran for over a thousand yards. So now that's going to make Aaron Jones' job a lot easier.
And you got Jeddah, and you got Naylor, and you got Jordan Addison.

Speaker 10 and you compare that with you paired that with Hawkinson. I was so

Speaker 10 I should, I'm not surprised. I'm not because they took this kid with the 10th pick in the draft, uh, and they say we took it for a reason, X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 10 But for $30 million for what they gave him, which is a similar deal to what Baker got from

Speaker 10 Tampa,

Speaker 10 now

Speaker 10 it definitely looks like

Speaker 10 a bad decision. And the person that hates it the worst is Justin jefferson

Speaker 10 because he see all these other guys he see guess what jettison said y'all see what jackson doing and jake were doing that was me that's supposed to be me absolutely absolutely this man this man on pace to go over 2 000 yards he's on pace to debate calvin johnson's record of 1964 i think

Speaker 10 That's what he doing.

Speaker 10 If the game was close today, he'd have had another 100-yard game.

Speaker 10 But the game was so out of hand he's like you know what i'm gonna call it a name but he was cooking god man that joker so quick joker that joker quick for no reason hey he quick he not slow but he not fast but he's he i'm talking about he lightning quick on

Speaker 12 lightning yeah i mean i had i had the joy working with him down there at at the

Speaker 12 the word uh whiteout workshop i had you know in in july where all them boys came down yeah i was like okay because you know you never get i never get to see him in person i only get to see him on tv so you never know what those players look like when you see them up close

Speaker 10 i saw enough at the rose bowl okay i saw him at the rose bowl that year i said i don't need to see no more

Speaker 10 i don't need to see no more because i ain't never seen and i because just the year before oh joe you remember just the year before uh a smitty had went off against ohio state He had over 200 and something.

Speaker 10 I was like, man, I ain't never seen a receiver like this.

Speaker 10 And then here come, and Jig would say, hold my beer. He went over 300.

Speaker 10 Baby, you know, I don't give a damn

Speaker 10 what division it is, a receiver getting over 300 yards in a game. Oh, you did it.
Oh, you that dude. You did it.

Speaker 12 You absolutely that boy. Absolutely.
And the fact that he's there.

Speaker 10 I don't think people realize how hard it is to get 300 yards per second.

Speaker 12 He's in year three, right?

Speaker 10 No, this is the second year.

Speaker 12 That's it?

Speaker 10 That's it. He's in the second year.
Remember, Ocho, he hurt his hamstring, and then he basically sat out his his his last year in ohio state dog that's

Speaker 10 but oh he was about to oh he was about after that performance oh he was about to go cray crazy that's crazy that's crazy

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