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Speaker 16 The Bills beat the Chiefs by the score of 28-21, the fourth time this season the Chiefs have lost a one-score game. Remember, last year they were winning a lot of these one-score games.

Speaker 16 When pressure, Mahomes was three of 16 for just 61 yards and an interception. Overall, he completed 15 of 34 passes.
This is the first time in his nine-year career that he was held under 50%

Speaker 16 passing, a streak of 142 games, including the playoffs, which was an NFL record to start a career. They got after him.
That's why you go get a Joey Bosa. They couldn't block him.

Speaker 15 No, at all.

Speaker 15 He caused havoc.

Speaker 15 He was disruptive all night.

Speaker 15 He forced Mahomes, made him uncomfortable, get him off his spot, had him having to throw in the run, use his legs a lot, and

Speaker 15 spare that.

Speaker 16 Jawan Johnson, I already know.

Speaker 16 He gonna get illegal formation because he gonna line his ass up in the backfield.

Speaker 16 He's going to get a holding call. I already know that.
Going into the game, Andy Reid is already counting that. Like, okay,

Speaker 16 he's going to get to, this guy

Speaker 16 is going to get two penalties.

Speaker 15 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 16 So now,

Speaker 16 let me call plays according, knowing that he's going to get those two penalties.

Speaker 16 But they harassed him all night. They did a great job of pressuring him,

Speaker 16 making it very, very uncomfortable. Where's the score?

Speaker 16 uh

Speaker 15 but look at that what what what did you like about what you saw from buffalo hell josh goddamn allen on man got josh with a goddamn 23 for 20 23 for 26 for 273 a td james cook out there cooking 27 two to seven carries but 114.

Speaker 15 kincaid had six for 101. obviously joey bosa we saw what he did defensively But the goddamn Chiefs really couldn't really couldn't get nothing going.
Kareem Hunt had 49.

Speaker 15 Rice, I almost said Rasheed Rice. It is Rasheed Rice.

Speaker 16 Rashid Rice, yeah.

Speaker 15 Oh, Rashid Rice. I mean, you only had four for 80.
So

Speaker 15 the Bills defense kind of kept the Chiefs in check. Mahomes was, what, 15 for 34, 250 at an interception.
And listen, goddamn,

Speaker 15 it's the regular season. It's a good win for Buffalo.
It's a good win, but it's the regular season. In the regular season, Josh Allen is 5-1 against Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 15 But that is not where it matters. It's not where it matters.
What are we going to do when they get to the AFC championship? Can you get over the hump then?

Speaker 15 And they're going to see each other again.

Speaker 15 And that's probably going to be the two teams that come out of the AFC, unless for some crazy reason, the Ravens have a resurgence and Lamar is a magician

Speaker 15 and just bring and just brings them back. from i mean what's what the ravens what two and two and what no they like i think they were like three three games Oh, yeah, three, yeah.

Speaker 15 That means they might be three and six, too.

Speaker 16 I thought Buffalo did a great job. First of all, the Chiefs really didn't stand a chance because the Chiefs like to stop the run.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 16 This is the first time they've given up a 100-yard rusher in, what, 20-something games, which was the longest current active streak. Right.
Okay, now we can't stop the run.

Speaker 16 Buffalo did a great job of doing what? Getting tranquil to cover tight ends and slot receivers. That's not what he is.
He's a run stuffer.

Speaker 16 He's not a cover backer. So he didn't, you see Dawson Knox, you see Kincaid, you see they're getting Shakur matched up on him because they motion and they know it's man coverage.

Speaker 16 If Kansas City can't stop the run, they can't win.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Because now you're at the mercy because they're going to play action you and guys going to

Speaker 16 dunk the ball and they got two tight ends. They got two tight ends that can really can make a difference in the ball game.
Right. Knox and Kincaid.

Speaker 15 Boy, it's nice, boy.

Speaker 16 And like you said, Josh Allen did a great job. He was 23.
Think about it. 23 of 26.

Speaker 16 That's damn good. You know how hard it is to go to have three incompletions in an NFL game?

Speaker 15 The whole game.

Speaker 15 Only three.

Speaker 15 That's crazy.

Speaker 15 What I do want is I want... I don't know what's going on, but I would love for the resurgence of my young bull, Keon Coleman, to be

Speaker 15 a little bit more.

Speaker 16 Can't can't separate, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Huh?

Speaker 16 He's a big body guy that needs to elevate.

Speaker 16 It's hard.

Speaker 16 I mean, look at him.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 16 He doesn't win against press coverage.

Speaker 16 And the thing is, if he can't use his athleticism,

Speaker 15 yeah.

Speaker 16 You keep saying the same thing. Keep saying the same thing.

Speaker 16 If you go back and study him at Florida State, look at what he did. He's leaping over people, making catches.
Right.

Speaker 16 You can't beat, if you can't beat man coverage in the NFL and you're not uber, uber, I'm talking about like elite of elite of elite.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 16 If you can't beat man coverage, there are two jobs that's available for you. Car salesman and coaching.

Speaker 15 We're going to get him right. We're going to get him right.
I just,

Speaker 15 he has too much talent. Yeah, too much talent not to be.
not to be being used.

Speaker 16 He got to be, well, you got to work on his quick shit because he got to

Speaker 16 get off man coverage.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 16 can't separate. Yeah,

Speaker 15 we're going to get him right. We're going to get him right.
We're going to get him right.

Speaker 16 Yeah, but I saw early on that

Speaker 16 what they were doing is that they were getting those tight ends matched up on Trent Quill, getting the linebackers matched up on the linebackers.

Speaker 16 Those are run stuffing linebackers. And Josh Allen is a guy.
I mean, they got him down three times, but he's so tough, man, because

Speaker 16 at 6'6, 255,

Speaker 16 he's going to break and tame. It's a rock.
And even when you think you got him, he's gonna do something.

Speaker 16 He's a magician with the ball.

Speaker 16 He's

Speaker 16 man, I rude the days that he was supposed to be in Denver. And we took Bradley Chubb over Josh Allen.

Speaker 15 Well, he could have been in Denver, huh? Yep. Damn, that's crazy.

Speaker 15 I mean, I think if you can go back and do the draft,

Speaker 15 there are a lot of teams that regret some of the players they've taken.

Speaker 16 But my thing is, Ocho, Ocho, we needed a quarterback. Why would you, you don't never, I get it.
You wanted to pair Bradley Chubb with Von Miller.

Speaker 16 I'm not, you need a quarterback.

Speaker 16 Wait, hold on. Without him, I don't give a damn who you pair with Von Miller.
You can pair Pat Sertan with Von Miller. Without a quarterback, you're not going nowhere.

Speaker 15 Who was a quarterback that year where they chose Bradley Chubb instead of going to get a quarterback?

Speaker 16 Oh, man, please. Who was it?

Speaker 15 It must have been somebody.

Speaker 16 Was it the guy from Northwestern?

Speaker 15 and you know what also when that when that draft happened you know gms and scouts they they didn't really think josh allen would be who josh allen is now he was a project he was listed as a project if they if they knew

Speaker 15 he would have turned out to be what he is now oh they wouldn't have hesitated man they wouldn't have hesitated but you just didn't know.

Speaker 16 Case Keenum.

Speaker 16 We had Case Keenum.

Speaker 16 Case Keenum been with the Texans. He had been with the Vikings.
Yeah, yeah. He'd been with like several teams.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 16 you thought Case Keenum.

Speaker 16 You thought Case Keenum.

Speaker 15 Hold on. But

Speaker 15 remember, we talked about identity, right?

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 15 Your identity was on defense back back then during the time you're speaking of

Speaker 15 your identity was defense so your offense wasn't gonna carry because it wasn't no quarterback you gonna get that was it wasn't no it wasn't no payton manning out there no but you got to have a quarterback i don't care how good your defense is you don't got no quarterback

Speaker 16 it ain't happening um

Speaker 15 y'all had a great defense in baltimore Yes, you just need a quarterback that can't turn the ball over.

Speaker 16 Oh, Joe, they don't allow you to play like that. That was 20 years ago.
You're not winning a Super Bowl playing that style of football. First of all, the rules prohibit it.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 16 The incidental contact, the rough and the passer, the defenseless receiver,

Speaker 16 ain't none of that. Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 16 They deter that now.

Speaker 15 But I'm saying a defense that good. The Broncos defense that year, the no fly zone.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 16 No fly zone Broncos. That was gone.
They were gone then.

Speaker 16 There was no more DeMarcus Ware. There was no more all those.
Those guys were gone.

Speaker 15 Okay, my bad.

Speaker 16 No, you have to, and you get an opportunity to get a quarterback.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you take him.

Speaker 16 That's a 15-year guy. You plug him in.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 15 You don't know he's a 15-year guy, though.

Speaker 16 Let me ask you a question. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, even as great, as great as

Speaker 16 Aaron Donnell was,

Speaker 16 he didn't win no championship until they got Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 16 Three-time defensive player of the year. Eight, nine-time first-team all-pro.

Speaker 16 One of the greatest defensive players ever.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it took a quarterback.

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Speaker 16 Christian McCaffrey and the 49ers run all over the Giants on the way to winning 34-24. McCaffrey recounted for 173 yards from scrimmage, 106 on the ground on 28 carries and

Speaker 16 67 yards on five catches.

Speaker 16 A week after a franchise low 10 rushing attempts, Shanahan team ran the ball 39 times for a buck 59.

Speaker 16 I'm not surprised.

Speaker 16 That's normally how it works when

Speaker 16 you got a lot of his dad

Speaker 16 makeup about him. Like, okay,

Speaker 16 we got to get our best player of the football.

Speaker 16 Hand it to him.

Speaker 16 Mac Jones played incredibly well. And that's what, Ocho, this is what you want from your backup.
I need you to keep us afloat until the starter comes back. He's done more than that.

Speaker 16 He's been back. He's what I thought he would be in this offense.
This offense is perfect for Mac Jones.

Speaker 16 I mean, he got great anticipation. They run the football.
They do do a lot of play action. Right.

Speaker 16 A lot of boots, a lot of roles.

Speaker 16 McCaffrey was great today.

Speaker 16 Jennings caught a touchdown.

Speaker 16 Randall Whip, you know, started inside. Ah!

Speaker 16 Got it. Back out.
Kendrick Bourne did what Kendrick Bourne normally does. Look,

Speaker 16 it's tough when you,

Speaker 16 I mean, 21 for 117 yards. Not bad, Ocho.
Jackson Dart was 24, 33, 191, two touchdowns. touchdowns.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 49ers,

Speaker 16 like I said, the 49ers,

Speaker 16 the Rams, and Seattle.

Speaker 16 You could possibly get three teams out of that division, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Just like you got last year, you got three teams out of the NFC North.

Speaker 16 You might get three teams.

Speaker 16 I think.

Speaker 16 But I thought Mac Jones, 19 of 24 ocho 235 two touchdowns no no turn oh he fumbled one he lost the lost the fumble they go they're gonna come out it's gonna be them and them in seattle they they both gonna come out what about the rams oh man

Speaker 15 the rams is a

Speaker 15 you like the rams to win the division and those two teams seattle and uh 49ers get the wild card yeah absolutely it's the rams automatic huh the rams automatic especially when once they get puga back and with puga and with puga's absence they still cutting the fool because Stafford and goddamn Devontae Adams out there having a goddamn ball.

Speaker 15 But Mac Jones is playing so well, especially when they filter the offense through goddamn,

Speaker 15 I'm getting ready to forget McCaffrey. McCaffrey, they filter the offense through McCaffrey, and then

Speaker 15 they run to open up the pass, and it makes everything so much easier because defense is worried about McCaffrey because he's a dual threat. Hell, if he's not running out the backfield,

Speaker 15 he isolated with the mismatch on your goddamn backup.

Speaker 16 when is the 49ers bye week? Have they had their bye week yet?

Speaker 16 Because Purdy got to be coming back pretty soon. But Mac Jones, Mac Jones has done his job.

Speaker 16 Mac Jones is done his job.

Speaker 16 Damn.

Speaker 16 That got to be the latest bye.

Speaker 16 What happened?

Speaker 16 49ers by is week 14.

Speaker 15 God damn.

Speaker 16 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 The Chargers beat the Titans by the score of 27-20. Dayon Henley's older brother, Jabari, was shot and killed Friday night in Los Angeles on Halloween.

Speaker 16 Henley came through today with seven tackles, his third sack of the season, a tackle for a loss, and a QB hit. Henley said after the game right now, I'm just floating.

Speaker 16 The only thing that's consistent right now in my life, and that is crazy to say, is football. So for me, that's why I'm out here.

Speaker 16 That's why I'm out there because this is the most consistent thing that I've got in my life right now. It's football.
And I'm just trying to make the most of it. Rest up, bro.

Speaker 16 We had him on Ocho. And we talked about, you know, we understand, he understand his father and the path that he trove.
And he told him, you know, his father's today.

Speaker 16 And he said, I don't want to go there. And his father, you know, made sure he shielded him and protected him from that.
Yes, sir. I don't know the situation.
And I'm not going to even speculate.

Speaker 16 All I know is the man lost his brother tragically.

Speaker 16 Uh, and so I don't want to get, but I'm saying he understands that, and he says, Man, it's just like I saw his uh in the locker room, he's like, Man, I'm just

Speaker 16 he said, I just fell to my knees, man, to be honest with you. If I'm gonna be, if I'm gonna be all the way real with you guys, man,

Speaker 16 um, I can just imagine, yeah, imagine. But he said, He, you know, he found out uh, Denzel Perryman knocked on his door and woke him up and told him he needed to call, you need to call home.
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Speaker 16 I can just imagine the hurt and

Speaker 16 of what he felt

Speaker 16 in that moment. And still, he's still dealing with it.
Justin Herbert was 19 of 29, 250, two touchdowns, one interception. Tennessee sacked him six times.

Speaker 16 Ronde Gas in the second, five catches, 68 yards. Lamb Bakonki, four for 56.
Quentin Johnson, four for 53 on a touchdown. Keenan Allen had two for 41.

Speaker 16 But Justin Herbert was the leading rusher with 57 yards on nine carries.

Speaker 16 Cam Ward 12 for 21, 145, no touchdowns, no interception was sacked four times.

Speaker 16 They didn't run the ball particularly well. They didn't do anything particularly well today.

Speaker 16 And they were still in the ball game.

Speaker 16 Even though they didn't do anything really well offensively, Ocho, they still had chances in this ball game.

Speaker 16 Give,

Speaker 16 if I'm not mistaken, I think the 49, the scorener, the Chargers stopped them on goal to go on two occasions.

Speaker 15 See what I talk about? See how hard it is to score?

Speaker 16 Uh-huh. What's it, Texans?

Speaker 16 I said the Chargers score.

Speaker 16 Yeah, the Titans. That's what you're comparing the Bengals to Titans.
Yeah, so yeah, I guess the Titans' offense and the Bengals offense, that's similar. Okay, I get you, though.
Whoa, hold on.

Speaker 16 I see what you're putting down. Come again?

Speaker 15 Who said that?

Speaker 16 You said it. You said it's hard to score for the Titans.
They got a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 16 But okay, I get your job. I'm picking up.
I'm picking up what you're saying down.

Speaker 15 Now that's disrespectful. That's totally disrespectful.

Speaker 15 I mean, we scoring 40 points a game. There's a difference.

Speaker 16 But you're in the red zone and you didn't.

Speaker 15 No, I'm telling you, I'm trying to help get you to better understand how difficult it is to score. in the red zone.
It's very difficult when you don't score.

Speaker 16 It's difficult to score when you got that kind of offense.

Speaker 15 Because there's only so much you can do when there's a small amount of field to work with, huh? Very, very, very small. Very, very small.

Speaker 16 The Rams run rough shot over the Saints, 34-10.

Speaker 16 Matthew Stafford was 24-32.

Speaker 16 281, four touchdowns, no interceptions.

Speaker 16 No turnovers. Kyron Williams, 25 rushes, 114 yards.
They ran the ball ball 43 times for 171 yards. Puka Nakua, seven catches, 95 yards, a touchdown.

Speaker 16 Devontae Adams, five catches, 60 yards, two touchdowns.

Speaker 16 Ferguson, two catches, 54 yards. Allen, three catches, 37 yards.
Tyler Higby had 13 and a touchdown. This is like,

Speaker 16 how many touchdowns Matthew Stafford got?

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Speaker 16 Damn, he should be

Speaker 15 leading the league. If he's not leading the league, he should be top three in touchdowns.

Speaker 16 Because, I mean, he had five touchdowns against Jacksonville. He had four today.
That's nine. I know he had at least nine in the other games that he's played.

Speaker 16 281.

Speaker 16 But man, the Rams, I mean the Saints.

Speaker 15 Hey,

Speaker 15 listen, they done been Spencer Rattler for Tyler Shook.

Speaker 16 It don't matter.

Speaker 15 Hey, I've, man.

Speaker 16 You got 21. He's leading the league?

Speaker 16 Who he tied with?

Speaker 16 I think Mahomes had 21 total touchdowns coming in. I don't think he had

Speaker 16 like 18 passes.

Speaker 16 Mahomes came into

Speaker 16 the lead.

Speaker 16 Oh,

Speaker 16 now has 21. Okay, okay.

Speaker 16 Rams look good. They can get after you with the

Speaker 16 defense.

Speaker 16 Verse and Young.

Speaker 15 Yeah, shit, they can get at you. Listen, they can get after you with defense.

Speaker 16 Fisk.

Speaker 16 Man, Young got out the the ball and they call it he had a sack but he hit the quarterback right up on his chin

Speaker 15 yeah man that hey don't that's hard man when a boy be going full speed like that coming off coming off that edge man

Speaker 15 that that's that's real hard it is

Speaker 16 now i can't i can't land on you i gotta land to the side i can't put my body weight down on you

Speaker 15 that's crazy you know what they should do what to be petty defensive ends and tackles that tackle the quarterback she just tackle them and just hold them Just hold them up.

Speaker 15 Just hold them just like like child's play.

Speaker 16 Just shove him in the back, get whiplan.

Speaker 16 Then they're gonna say, You can't do that. They'll find a way to protect the quarterback.

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Speaker 16 All right, we're gonna get you out of here with this one, though, y'all. Your bingo.
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Speaker 16 The Broncos beat the Texans by the score of 18-15. Will Lutz.

Speaker 16 34-yard game winning field goal. It was the Broncos' fourth win this season in a game in which they trail the start of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 16 It was also the fourth game this season in which the Broncos defense has not surrendered a touchdown.

Speaker 16 Six-game win streak, the longest since the 2015 Broncos, when they went on to win Super Bowl 50.

Speaker 16 Hey, you see it with me, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Hey, you see how good that defense is? You see what I mean?

Speaker 15 All field goals.

Speaker 15 You see what I mean?

Speaker 15 I know it's not the early 2000s, but when you have a defense like that, where all three levels of your defense is very, very, very, very good, there's really no weak link.

Speaker 15 Well, actually, there is one weak link. They pick on him all the time.

Speaker 16 Riley Moss.

Speaker 15 I mean, that would be your weak link. That would be your fish.

Speaker 15 But other than that, man,

Speaker 15 y'all willing to dealing.

Speaker 16 But guess what? When they need to get in field goal ray, go back and look at when they played the Giants. Yeah.

Speaker 16 What did the quarterback do, Bo Nicks? What did he do? When they played the Eagles when they were down, what did Bo Knicks do?

Speaker 16 When they played the Houston, Texas and they needed to go. What did Bo Knicks do?

Speaker 16 As great as the defense played, if Bo Nicks doesn't do what he does, they're not winning.

Speaker 16 Bo Nicks, 18 to 37, 173, two touchdowns, interception. He was sacked once.
Davis Mills was 17 to 30, 137. He was sacked twice.

Speaker 16 The Broncos had four sacks, if I'm not mistaken, I think I'm almost certain they're leading the league in sacks.

Speaker 16 They did a great job stuffing the run, 28 rush attempts for the Texans, 77 yards.

Speaker 16 The Broncos

Speaker 16 had 18 rushes for 173 yards.

Speaker 16 But, you know,

Speaker 16 I just don't get the Broncos sometimes. I mean, sometimes they're like, they just go up and down the field, just move up and down the field.

Speaker 16 And then again, the next day, you know, like, bro, what happened? Why are y'all struggling?

Speaker 15 Hey, Uncle.

Speaker 15 It's difficult in the red zone. I told you.
See, your own team having problems with it too.

Speaker 16 Hell, they barely got to the red zone. Hold on.
You move up and down.

Speaker 15 You move up and down the field. You get in the red zone, and then you can't score.
It's not, it's very difficult. It's hard,

Speaker 15 it's hard, especially if you don't score from far out. But once you get inside that 20, boy, you got to be creative as hell, or you got to have some players that can win one-on-one and be phenomenal.

Speaker 15 That's very difficult.

Speaker 16 Oh, no, oh, Joe, we only got to the red zone one time, but y'all,

Speaker 16 and we had two turnovers.

Speaker 15 And y'all, hey, listen, y'all had two turnovers. Y'all were able to overcome it.
We had two turnovers. We weren't able to overcome it.
And we scored 38. Matter of fact, we scored 42.

Speaker 15 We scored 42.

Speaker 15 Now, what you think? How do you think we would look if we had y'all's defense?

Speaker 16 Come on, Ocho.

Speaker 16 You owed everything.

Speaker 16 This man wore everything.

Speaker 16 Hey, Broncos have,

Speaker 16 who do the Broncos play next week? You should be coming up to a buy.

Speaker 15 Yeah, so we owe our buy. So I ain't, listen, I'm good.
I ain't got to worry about nothing.

Speaker 16 Oh, the Broncos got the Raiders on Thursday.

Speaker 15 Yeah, y'all going to lose that game.

Speaker 16 Oh, Lord, have mercy. Y'all gonna lose that game.
I'm gonna sack Geno by 10 times.

Speaker 15 Nah, I'm saying

Speaker 15 understand how football works. Understand how the football guards work.

Speaker 15 It's just the way it is. As bad as the Raiders have played

Speaker 15 this season in general, for some reason, it's a game like this where you expect, you expect the Broncos to win, but.

Speaker 16 I don't expect them to win. I expect them to play good.
I expect the Raiders to play bad, and we win.

Speaker 15 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 15 Yeah, we're gonna see who gets the last laugh. All that laughing and Kiki and you were doing today.

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Speaker 16 y'all know Ocho was ready to glow after they took that guy that on side kick and end up scoring that touchdown. Y'all know Ocho was up there happy.
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Speaker 16 Yeah, Yeah, oh, Ocho, you was happy. You were there when y'all scored that touchdown, they got the all-side kick, and just scored again.
You was happy with it, Ocho.

Speaker 15 I was hype.

Speaker 15 Absolutely, I was hype. Listen, I was jumping up and down.
I was hitting my kids looking at me, boy, daddy, what's wrong? I say, nothing, but we're about to win, baby. What you mean? What's wrong?

Speaker 16 No, it ain't about to happen.

Speaker 15 And man,

Speaker 15 man, that's such a, oh, my goodness, man. If I could explain the letdown

Speaker 15 and the hurt, and then, boom, it hit me couldn't happen why do i always do this why do i always do that you invest so much into a team not only did i play for them but i still i still support them i still show

Speaker 15 you and i'm i'm invested into it i'm investing into the seasons as if i'm a fan uh i enjoy the game of football as if i never played it As if I never played it.

Speaker 15 That's why anytime I go to a game, like the fan experience for me is like, it's like it's new to me because I've never been on the other side. I've never been in the stands.

Speaker 15 I've always been on the field. So I enjoy so much from a different perspective.
It hurts a little bit more.

Speaker 15 It hurts a little bit more because I played the game. I played the game and I want and I'm looking and I know what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 16 That's why I said you can't divest. You can't become desensitized because you care too much.

Speaker 16 It's not a try, though. I mean, you try to convince yourself of that, but you and I both know that's not the case.
Oh, Joe, the Minnesota Vikings go in, they get J.J.

Speaker 16 McCarthy back, and they go in and they beat the Detroit Lions by the score of 27 to 24.

Speaker 16 J.J. McCarthy, 14 to 25, 143, two touchdowns, one interceptions.
Aaron Jones Sr. had nine carries, 78 yards.
They ran the ball 29 times for 142.

Speaker 16 But it was Minnesota's defense.

Speaker 16 Jared Goff was 25 of 37, 284, two touchdowns, but they stuff Sonic and Knuckles.

Speaker 16 20 rushes, 65 yards, and one costly turnover. David Montgomery fumbled the ball, and that was the difference in the ballgame.
But they got after Jerry Goff. They sacked him five times.
Yep.

Speaker 16 Minnesota played really well. J.J.
McCarthy, I thought, played well today. He was able to move around by some time.

Speaker 16 But especially that back breaker where he ran the ball, he broke contained. He got the ball in the end zone.
Justin Jefferson, he had a touchdown.

Speaker 16 addison had two catches for 48 yards jetta had six for 47.

Speaker 16 um

Speaker 16 hawkinson had two for 11.

Speaker 15 but well listen it was it was the defense of the day huh it was the defense of the day neither neither offenses had you know extreme extreme crazy production you know what we're used to seeing and i knew if brian flores could find a way to stop the run i mean he most of the time when team

Speaker 15 the run when detroit can't run the ball they're still able to be efficient through the air they're still able to be efficient through the air but Brian Flora is dialing up that goddamn pressure.

Speaker 15 You know, excuse me, getting golf off a golfer spot. I mean,

Speaker 16 they play really. You got to pressure him because you know

Speaker 16 he's not going nowhere.

Speaker 15 He can't go nowhere. He can't move.

Speaker 16 Both quarterbacks were sacked five times.

Speaker 16 Campbell, Barnes, Lacey, Hutchinson got a sack. Muhammad got a sack.
And then for the Hargrave, Wilson had two sacks, Redmond had a sack,

Speaker 16 Drake Rodriguez had a sack.

Speaker 16 But I was surprised. Uh, if somebody would have told me that Minnesota was going to go there and win that ball game, right,

Speaker 16 I wouldn't have believed them because I thought Detroit was playing really, really well.

Speaker 16 Really well.

Speaker 15 The only reason if they did tell me that Minnesota won the game, the only reason I would have believed them is the fact that I understand how good Minnesota's defense is.

Speaker 15 Now, some weeks, some weeks they get trashed. I think it might have been last week, if I'm not mistaken.
They look abysmal.

Speaker 15 They look horrible. I think it was last week.

Speaker 15 But I understand when they're playing well and they're playing on all cylinders and everyone is playing as a unit, they're as good as any other defense in the NFL.

Speaker 15 And it showed today. It showed today.

Speaker 15 And being able to stop Jameer Gibbs in Montgomery is a tall task. It's a tall task.
And they did one hell of a job at it.

Speaker 16 Well, I think the thing is, Ocho, when you look at this, they've got sacked five times. They had committed 10 penalties, which was a season high for 76 yards.
They were five of 17 on third down.

Speaker 16 We know Detroit is very, very good in third down because normally they're third and manageable.

Speaker 16 You start keeping, you keep getting those third and longs, those third and eight, third and ten, third and twelves. You start keep playing behind the sticks.
Five of 17?

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 16 Nah, nah. So that means give Minnesota credit.
Like you said, because their defense was getting them off the field on third down.

Speaker 16 They were three or three on fourth down.

Speaker 16 but i think you had to give minnesota credit jj mccarthy played well he didn't have to do a whole lot with his arm they were able to run the football and keep keep detroit somewhat off balance but uh detroit hey that that's the thing is that

Speaker 16 how you thought you if whatever you thought was going to happen right you don't know Ain't no guarantee that you're going to do the same thing you did last year offensively. You see, it's different.

Speaker 16 It's a big difference from year to year. Oh, we did this last year.
Oh, we went to this last year. It ain't no guarantee.
It's not a guarantee that it's going to play out for you this year.

Speaker 8 The Colts,

Speaker 16 six turnovers, had the Steelers evicted 27-20. Fans had a funeral at Steelers defense aside.
Ackershore Stadium before kickoff. Inside the stadium, there was a resurrection.

Speaker 16 The defense got five sacks, forced a season high, six takeaways, and held the league's best offense to 20 points.

Speaker 16 That right tackle, I think it's

Speaker 16 Brayden Smith. Yeah.
He got his ass kicked today.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 16 He got it kicked. He flat out got a kick today.
He should go and apologize now.

Speaker 16 Daniel Jones, he was awful. Ain't nowhere around that.
He played terrible today, but that right tackle gave it up. Now, Jones did get a little unlucky.

Speaker 16 He's trying to throw a ball out to the left side. The guy bats it, and carries back, and the Steelers got intercepted.
But

Speaker 16 the mere fact that it was still a game, Mocho,

Speaker 16 after five sacks and six takeaways, and it's still a game, lets you know just how good they can be if they don't turn it over.

Speaker 15 Yeah, and that was the difference in this game.

Speaker 15 Yeah, they turned the ball over, and the fact that it was still a game, Daniel Jones, listen, it wasn't a good day for him, but

Speaker 15 he still threw for 342.

Speaker 15 342. And he still threw for 342.

Speaker 16 Three interceptions.

Speaker 15 And the funny thing about it is if the Steelers didn't play, didn't play well on defense, they would have got obliterated.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 15 If Daniel Jones and the Indianapolis coach didn't turn the ball over, they would have got obliterated.

Speaker 16 Aaron Rodgers was 25 with 35, 203, one touchdown.

Speaker 16 They ran the ball 23 times for 38 yards, which is terrible. But like you said, their defense bailed them out today.

Speaker 16 Their defense absolutely bailed them out today. When you get six takeaways and sack the quarterback five times,

Speaker 16 that's a score that probably should have been, you probably should win by three, four touchdowns.

Speaker 15 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 16 But it just goes to show you that Andy has a good defense, and the Steelers are going to have to do a lot better offensively, OJo.

Speaker 16 A lot of teams are not going to give you six takeaways.

Speaker 15 Nah.

Speaker 15 Hey, hell, you get one or two, you're probably going to win the game. You get six,

Speaker 16 it should be a blowout. Six?

Speaker 15 Man,

Speaker 15 that happens in high school. Getting six, most of the time, your quarterback has to be horrible.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Horrible. So, you know, Daniel Jones had a bad day, but he's looked phenomenal all season long.
He's looked phenomenal all season long. So having one day like this, okay, boom.
I'm human. I'm human.

Speaker 15 I'm making errors. I'm making mistakes.
I'm back to the drawing board. Monday morning, you reset, and you come on back next week and pick up where you left off the week before you played the Steelers.

Speaker 16 Right.

Speaker 16 Falcons, Raheem Morris, said the Patriots' defense simulated a snap on a key four-down play by clapping, leading to an intentional grounding penalty by Michael Pennix.

Speaker 16 The Falcons trailed 24-23 with 209 remaining at the end of the game.

Speaker 16 And the Patriots, 48-yard line, when Ryan Nuzzle snapped the ball on the second down, on the second down, before Pennix and other offensive line was ready for it, the Patriots immediately pressured Pennix because nobody else moved who threw the ball towards the dirt in the direction of Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 16 Pennix was called for an intentional grounding, resulted in a loss of down and a 10-yard penalty. Defense simulating a snap count or snap is a 15-yard penalty under NFL

Speaker 16 discerning signals. It's rarely called, however, because it's hard to pinpoint where exactly the clap or the sounds coming from in a stadium.
But see, that's why you don't clap.

Speaker 16 That's why when you're on the road, normally what they do, Ocho,

Speaker 16 come back. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 15 He tapped the center. He tapped the center.

Speaker 16 He flashed in front of his hand. When you clap, he went.
Come on now. Boy, you ain't in college no more.
That's what they do in college. Right.

Speaker 16 Well, you shouldn't have been in this situation. Hell, you tie the ball game up, and your damn kicker came out there and shake the PAT.

Speaker 16 That's what's heartbreaking. Yep.
All you got to do is make the PAT. Put pressure

Speaker 16 on the Patriots to go down and score and get a field goal.

Speaker 15 Yep.

Speaker 15 It was a good. Hey, Drake May.
Do you realize the goddamn Patriots to

Speaker 15 seven and two?

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I know another team that's seven and two.

Speaker 16 I also know a team that's not seven and two.

Speaker 15 I mean, who you talk about?

Speaker 15 Who you talk about?

Speaker 16 I know a team that's seven and two. Another team that's seven and two.

Speaker 15 I said the Patriots.

Speaker 16 I know another team besides the Patriots who are seven and two.

Speaker 15 Are we talking about the Bills?

Speaker 16 I know another team.

Speaker 15 Shoot, I think that's about it.

Speaker 16 It ain't.

Speaker 15 Who you talking about?

Speaker 16 I know who is 7-2.

Speaker 16 I know a team that's only won like three games.

Speaker 15 Yeah, so it's a few of them.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Who you talking about? Baltimore?

Speaker 16 They give up like 40 points a game, like it ain't nothing.

Speaker 15 We score 40 a game, too.

Speaker 16 But it's never on the W side.

Speaker 15 I mean, listen, sometimes life, life gets your limits. You make fruit punch.

Speaker 16 The Patriots,

Speaker 16 they are 7-2. Drake May was 19 of 29, two touchdowns, one interception.

Speaker 16 The Falcons got after Mocho, they sacked him six times. Dang.

Speaker 16 Drake London had an outstanding game. He had three.
Boy, he gave Gonzalez fits. Hey,

Speaker 16 you know what? He gave Gonzalez ass fits.

Speaker 15 That's a great matchup. Two big on big.

Speaker 16 Well, he lost. Well, Gonzalez lost that one.

Speaker 15 Yeah, big on big. I mean, shoot, Drake London with nine for 118 and a three TDs, huh?

Speaker 16 Three.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Bijan didn't really get off the day. He only had 12 carries for 46.

Speaker 16 That's not enough.

Speaker 16 16 rush attempts, 71 yards.

Speaker 15 Hey, the receiver.

Speaker 16 Douglas got off. Yeah.

Speaker 16 I think it was revealed after the game. His uncle was shot and killed.

Speaker 15 Yeah, last night.

Speaker 16 Stephon Diggs had a touchdown.

Speaker 16 Excuse me, Hunter Henry had a fourth and 51.

Speaker 16 Look, the Patriot

Speaker 16 Gonzalez, man, he gets injured a lot, too.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 he's injured prone. He's really good, though.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 When he's healthy, I'm talking about all the way right, but he's nice.

Speaker 16 I have, I ain't seen him,

Speaker 16 I ain't seen him play a whole year yet.

Speaker 15 He's nice.

Speaker 16 But I think Newland is gonna be a tough out.

Speaker 16 They're well coached.

Speaker 16 They're good enough offensively.

Speaker 16 Defensively, look,

Speaker 16 Bray will cut his teeth on that side of the football, so you know they're going to be able to get out the people defensively.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 they've already gone to Buffalo and beaten Buffalo in their building.

Speaker 16 Bless you.

Speaker 16 So it's going to be interesting. The AFC East is a two-team.
Look, it's a two-team race. It's Buffalo and New England.

Speaker 15 That's it.

Speaker 16 The thing is that you can't afford to have any slip-ups when you play those other two teams. So when you play the Jets and the Dolphins, you're supposed to do what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 15 So you ain't got nothing to worry about.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 I thought Atlanta was going to pull this one out.

Speaker 16 I can't. I can't convince the PAT, Ocho.
You go down the field, Drake London, make a hell of a catch.

Speaker 16 A hell of a catch.

Speaker 16 And then you trot your ass out there and shank it.

Speaker 16 Shankopotamas.

Speaker 15 Hey, the fact that the Pagers, man, had a 20-year, had a 20-year bid, man, of nothing but consistent,

Speaker 15 consistent success at the quarterback position, and then figured it out already and got another damn quarterback.

Speaker 16 And it got them. Hell, I think Mac Jones

Speaker 16 would have been fine for them had they not messed it up. Had Coach Belichick not try to have a special teams coach and a defensive coordinator be his offensive coordinator.

Speaker 16 Because remember what he was like when he had Josh McDane?

Speaker 16 They went to the playoffs that year.

Speaker 15 He was nice. He was nice.
But then I'm just saying, I'm trying to just give you the example of the Dolphins.

Speaker 15 Well,

Speaker 15 we ain't got the right answer since goddamn Marino.

Speaker 16 Nope.

Speaker 15 And the damn, the goddamn Patriots don't figured it out that fast.

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