Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho & Johnny Manziel react to Oklahoma win, Texas beating Vandy!

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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Johnny Manziel react to Oklahoma taking on Tennessee, Georgia's 4-game win streak after defeating Florida, Arch Manning and Texas taking down Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt, and much more College Football action! Later, their joined by Indiana DB D'Angelo Ponds

00:00 - Introduction
3:33 - Oklahoma defeat Tennessee
12:35 - Georgia defeat Florida Gators
17:45 - SMU beats Hurricanes
28:14 - Indiana DB, D’Angelo Ponds, joins the show
46:00 - OSU have a Heisman frontrunner
1:00:00 - Texas beats Vandy

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Speaker 11 Thank you for joining us again. As I mentioned before, as you watch the Oklahoma Sooners go into Knoxville and take down the Tillis, Tennessee volunteers by the score of 33 to 27.
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Speaker 11 Matir had 19 of 29, 159, no touchdowns, one interceptions.

Speaker 11 They got Xavier Robinson had 16 carries for a buck 15 and a touchdown. John Matier had 16 carries for 80 yards and a touchdown.
35 rush attempts, 192, two touchdowns.

Speaker 11 But it was Tennessee that could not get out of their own way.

Speaker 11 Aguilar had an outstanding day passing the football, but two very costly interceptions, and he fumbled the ball that went back for a touchdown.

Speaker 11 He was 29 of 45, 393, three touchdowns, two interceptions. They didn't run the ball well at all.
Oklahoma Sooner put a lot of pressure on him.

Speaker 11 I don't know what the right tackle is thinking because he gave up the sack. They got the quarterback hit, and then he gave up another sack that ended up getting

Speaker 11 pushed them out of field goal right now.

Speaker 11 And then I'm trying to figure out the fullback. Bro, you damn near out of bounds and you ain't got your head around yet.
So what do you think is going to happen?

Speaker 11 What do you want? I mean, if he throws it to you out of bounds, it's incomplete. And then the ball hits you in the damn face.

Speaker 11 You're on the football team.

Speaker 11 You can't use it.

Speaker 12 I mean, he was damn near out of what?

Speaker 11 He damn near out of bounds. He damn near on this.

Speaker 11 He damn near about the high-five Josh Hypel. I'm like, bro, get your head around, bro.
And the ball hit him in his face. I'm like, Lord, have mercy.
This explains why I cannot be be a coach.

Speaker 11 Oh, Joe, watching this game, man, look, Tennessee had this game in control because at one point in time, I think OU had like less than 100 yards, but they were like right there in the ball game.

Speaker 11 Because of the mistakes that Tennessee was making, leaving them in the ballgame. And what happened? You leave a team around long enough, bad things are going to happen.

Speaker 11 And that's exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 Actually, this was a really good game.

Speaker 12 I enjoyed it. The first, second quarter, at the half, it was very close.

Speaker 12 It was going back and forth. And I thought it was going to come down to whoever had the ball last.

Speaker 12 And obviously, Tennessee, who had the better number statistically, if you don't look at the end of the score, you look at the stats, you would think that the Tennessee volunteers won this game because of what they were able to do offensively.

Speaker 12 But listen, the interception killed them. They're the right tackle.
I'm not sure what he did when he allowed that end to come over.

Speaker 10 He put the ball in the belly, he faked it, and he came up. And he let dude hit him.

Speaker 12 I mean, listen,

Speaker 12 I don't know.

Speaker 11 First of all, I don't know why he stepped down, Ocho. I don't know why.
There was no threat.

Speaker 12 There was no threat to even have to step down.

Speaker 12 The damn inn is playing damn near at the nine, all the way out wide.

Speaker 11 He in a wide nine. He absolutely is.

Speaker 11 So I'm not saying that. And there's nobody there to block him.

Speaker 12 Not only do they fumble, they pick the goddamn ball up and take that bitch all the way back.

Speaker 11 And they couldn't get him on the ground. I'm like, damn.
Just take it. You've already made a mistake.
You've made a mistake. Don't exacerbate it.
Just get him on the ground.

Speaker 12 Titan was trying to get him on the ground.

Speaker 12 He couldn't get him down. But

Speaker 12 outside of that, it was a good game.

Speaker 12 I was looking for Mateir to do a little bit more through the air. I was looking for him to do a little bit more through the air.
It didn't happen, but he didn't have to do much offensively.

Speaker 12 They had two turnovers as well. Obviously, Duvalls had three.

Speaker 12 Let me see. Penny fucking Oklahoma had

Speaker 12 11 for 104. So I'm thinking, when you look at it, they were actually supposed to lose a game.

Speaker 12 And I think if Tennessee could have minimized their turnovers, they would have had a better chance at making it either a close game or actually winning this one.

Speaker 11 I mean, you look at OU, Ocho, 19 first down to 28 first down for Tennessee. OU was 4 of 10 on third down.
Tennessee was better than 50%. They were 7 of 13, 456 yards.

Speaker 11 So they outgained about 100 yards of total offense.

Speaker 11 But it was that one really costly turnover that led directly to points. And they missed the, remember, they missed the field goal also.
Tennessee missed the field goal. So you can't

Speaker 11 look, OU has a really good defense. Materia is starting to play a little better.
He's starting to play like he did the first couple of games of the season before he got that injury.

Speaker 11 When he came back, he had kind of gotten out of rhythm. But if you look at him now, he's starting to play a little better.

Speaker 11 But when you turn the ball over and you're evenly matched teams, it's hard for you to overcome mistakes. It's really hard because you look at it.

Speaker 11 One is 14, the other is 18. And it's not like OU is a bad team.
They're ranked right where they're supposed to be. They've got a very, very good team.
But

Speaker 11 I just think the turnovers tonight, the miscues, okay, fourth down, bro, you stay on the field.

Speaker 11 You stay on that, and you need that.

Speaker 11 Those are plays that you got to have in a situation like that. You had the lead.
You was in control of the ball game. Now you've given up control of the ball game through poor play and turnovers.

Speaker 11 Now you get an opportunity to seize some of that momentum back and you squander that opportunity.

Speaker 11 Give OU credit going on the road in a hostile environment and finding a way scratching and clawing and finding a way to win.

Speaker 12 Oh yeah. And you know what's funny?

Speaker 11 But yeah, I thought Aguilar made some good plays. I mean,

Speaker 11 what irks me, and not just with college football, but even NFL.

Speaker 11 Why are you running backwards? Bro, you in field goal range, and you're going to take yourself out of field goal range trying to make a play. You're not Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 11 Everybody wants to be, everybody wants to have one of these heroic plays where they get out of harm's way and they throw

Speaker 11 or they break, they shake five people and make somebody miss, and they spin and they go.

Speaker 11 Bro, you're doing too much. You're doing too much.

Speaker 10 That's a dream that come true, huh?

Speaker 12 You know, to be able to do something like that, to make something happen for your team,

Speaker 12 shoot, you're gonna make ESPN.

Speaker 12 Wow, they got out. What happened?

Speaker 11 Dodge had the bases loaded with one out, and Toronto got out of it. Damn.

Speaker 11 Headed to the top, headed to the bottom of the 10th.

Speaker 12 Oh, bottom of the 10th?

Speaker 11 Yep.

Speaker 11 The Sooners did what the Sooners do. They ran for the 100.

Speaker 11 Man, if I'm not running back, I'm mad. I go down at the one-yard line thinking we're going to take a knee, and then the next play, you let the quarterback run to the hell.
If I do that, I ran it in.

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Speaker 11 Because it looked a lot better, Ocho, if I got a.

Speaker 2 Hold on.

Speaker 11 That was like a 50-something-yard run because he went right up straight.

Speaker 11 So a 43-yard run or a 44-yard touchdown. I think I'd take the 44-yard touchdown.
Absolutely. Hell,

Speaker 11 if I knew that,

Speaker 11 because I thought we were going to let the time run. Why did they do that anyway?

Speaker 12 Somebody had to get in there from the sideline and you go down there and take away a touchdown and then they run it right in the next place. Shoot, listen,

Speaker 11 that's my point. Yeah,

Speaker 11 I'm not doing that.

Speaker 11 I'm not taking no knee. I'm going.
Oh, we up, and plus, we up three. That puts us up 10.
Look,

Speaker 11 if we can't hold a lead with a minute left,

Speaker 12 that's on us. That's on us.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 it was a very good game. Very good game.

Speaker 11 10-7. And then, oh,

Speaker 11 you had the lead at the half. 16, you had a 16 because it's kicked three field goals in the second.
So they have a 16-10 lead at the half.

Speaker 11 As poorly poorly as they played less than 100 yards of total offense.

Speaker 11 Tennessee is well over 250 of total offense, but the miscues.

Speaker 11 And, you know,

Speaker 11 I'm sure Coach Heipel is in the locker rooms like, hey, guys, we let one slip away.

Speaker 11 You know, we've got to be better. We've got to take better care of the football.
And when we get opportunities,

Speaker 11 Aguilar threw one right to the middle. Right, a harder defense probably would have saved.
what, 10, 15 seconds, and the wide receiver dropped it right over the time.

Speaker 11 You know, late in the ball game, Mojo, when they were, they ended up, I think, no, they ended up kicking a field goal.

Speaker 11 They ended up kicking a field goal. But

Speaker 12 before we go into the next game, you want to know what an NFL throw is for those that watch that Tennessee, Oklahoma game, when Aguilar threw that, I think it was the skinny, or it was maybe a deep slant,

Speaker 12 and

Speaker 12 he kept his eyes to the left, and the safety missed it, and it came right off the safety's ear

Speaker 12 in the back of the end zone.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 Like towards the end of the game. That was NFL, though.
That was nice. He threw that thing on the rope.

Speaker 11 Oh, he made some big time plays. He made some big time plays, but

Speaker 11 they just got to do a better job of taking care of the football, mainly him. The number five, Georgia Bulldogs.

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Speaker 11 But they survive, come back in the fourth quarter like they've done so many times this year by the score of

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Speaker 11 24-20. Remember last week they let Billy Napier go.
They have an interim head coach, and Georgia. It took all Georgia could do to come back and win the ball game.

Speaker 11 They have to score seven in the fourth quarter late in the ball games to get a win. And they do that.

Speaker 11 Gunner Stockton made some big time throws, but it was the running back.

Speaker 11 Georgia was 7 of 15 on third down. Florida was 2 of 11.
Georgia had 361 total yards florida had 281. um time of possession wasn't 32 25 to 27 35.

Speaker 11 um but that fourth down really hurt florida i mean they weren't even close to each that wasn't even close did you get i'm talking about did you get did y'all know the snap count because it damn sure looked like georgia knew the snap count and y'all didn't get no surge that wasn't even close i don't even know why they even brought the measure brought y'all why y'all brought the uh tape out

Speaker 11 it wasn't even close to getting that

Speaker 11 wasn't even close to getting that. But

Speaker 12 I was going to say, watching this game, as up and down as Florida has been, as inconsistent as they've been, depending on who they're playing, the fact that they played Georgia today and played Georgia so well, you know, played a ranked team as well as they did.

Speaker 12 I just don't understand what the problem may be with Florida. I think they're not that far away.

Speaker 12 If they can find some continuity and consistency in each game, no matter what, not playing down competition. Obviously, it starts with a quarterback play.

Speaker 12 The quarterback play has to be a little bit more consistent. I mean, Legway, I mean, Legway wasn't that bad today.
It was 15 for 24.

Speaker 11 Nah, he was 15 for 24, 166.

Speaker 12 But to play like they played today against Georgia, it comes out like, well, damn, y'all really shouldn't have any losses until it comes to the big boys. Now, sometimes you expect Florida to lose to

Speaker 12 a game like this against

Speaker 12 one of the better teams that are ranked very high. I think Georgia is number four, if I'm not mistaken.
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Speaker 12 listen,

Speaker 12 there are no moral victories. But to me,

Speaker 12 the coaches got fired, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah, with the

Speaker 11 fire.

Speaker 12 With Billy just getting fired, to me, this is, there are no moral goddamn victories. But the way they fought today, I mean, it was cool, even though they did lose.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Gunner Stockton played another good game today, 20 of 29,

Speaker 11 223, two touchdowns. He did have that one reception.
Bowens was the one that had a 36-yard touchdown that really put, you know, that put him in front. And then Georgia's defense did the rest.

Speaker 11 Branch is 10 catches for 112 yards.

Speaker 11 I'm looking at this game, Ocho, and I agree with you. I'm like, Florida, where was this all year?

Speaker 11 Granted, now this is a rivalry game. Georgia, Florida, the Georgia, Florida line.
You know, this is played in Jacksonville. It's not played on campus.
I think this rival is almost 100 years old.

Speaker 11 And so I'm not surprised that Florida got up to play. This is the longest.
This is a five-game win streak for the Bulldogs. I think the longest in a very, very long time.

Speaker 11 I think the record is like six.

Speaker 11 But Georgia, Georgia has a good team. You know, Kirby, Kirby is a very, very, very, very, very good coach.
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Speaker 11 You know,

Speaker 11 being under Coach Saban,

Speaker 11 I see a lot of Coach Sabin in his mannerisms and having his team. The team is prepared.
That's one thing you're going to say about a Kirby smart team.

Speaker 11 The one thing you could always say about a Nick Sabin team, they're going to be prepared.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 that's all you can really ask for is that

Speaker 11 is have the team prepared, knowing that you got horses to run the race. Hey,

Speaker 11 I can win any war. Just give me the weapon.

Speaker 11 Give me some weapons to go fight, and I can win any war. And Georgia got those dogs that can run and can fight.
And so

Speaker 11 it was a... It was a big win because, Joe, we saw Georgia come back.
Who they come back against? They came back against Ole Miss a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 11 They've done this like three or four times this year. Either losing at the half or losing, going to the fourth quarter.
Auburn was another one. They found a way to come back and win.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Auburn, Ole Miss. They did it

Speaker 11 today with Florida. And so, you know, you can't count these guys out.
If you get them down, like Killanette with a sledgehammer, you get them down,

Speaker 11 you better make sure they stay down because if they get up off the mat, they're coming.

Speaker 11 They're coming. But Georgia, look, they still right there.
They know

Speaker 11 they got to hope Alabama lose the game because Alabama is beating them. I don't know how this thing is going to play out.
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Speaker 11 But I guess they don't divide it up in East and West anymore. They just take the two best,

Speaker 11 the one loss record. So theoretically, it could be Texas A ⁇ M playing Alabama, even though they're on the same side.

Speaker 11 So it used to be East versus West, but they've done away with the divisions this year. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see what what goes on what happens

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Speaker 11 Ocho,

Speaker 11 Yocanese 9620 overtime loss to SMU, a defeat that significantly damages Miami ACC Championship and college football player of hope as the Hurricanes dropped their second

Speaker 11 ACC game in three weeks and fell to 6-2. 12 penalties for 96 yards, including an unsportsmanlike conduct call against defensive end

Speaker 11 Marquise Lightfoot on the final driving regulation when he hit quarterback Kevin Jennings after the whistle had blown for my uh for a Miami timeout.

Speaker 11 That penalty helped Miami get in the field goal range, and they kicked a 38-yard field goal to send the game in overtime.

Speaker 11 Carson Beck threw an interception on the goal line in his first possession, and then SMU took the ball in from one yard out and they won.

Speaker 11 Miami playoff chances dropped to nine percent, according to ESPN's playoff predictor. Ocho.

Speaker 11 Over the last

Speaker 11 three, four years,

Speaker 11 Miami has always had games like this. They always lose a game that they should win, and they're favored.
We've seen this from Coach Principal's team.

Speaker 11 And I don't know why.

Speaker 11 I don't know why. We saw this the other night.
Who did they play? And he threw those and Beck threw those four interceptions.

Speaker 12 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 11 That was, I think, Virginia. Was it Virginia or Louisville? Louisville.
Yeah, it was Louisville. That's who they played.
Louisville. And

Speaker 11 I just don't get how every year this time, oh, this is Miami year, this is Miami year, this is Miami year. And every year, somebody that's not even ranked,

Speaker 12 you know, what's funny? Also, Unc for those of you in the chat that are watching right now that haven't watched SMU play, hey, them boys can play some ball, Uncle.

Speaker 12 Them boys down there at SMU, despite not being ranked, they can play some ball. They're very good.

Speaker 12 Goddamn Jennings threw for 365 today.

Speaker 12 TJ TJ Harden had what, what, only, only

Speaker 12 nine for 27. My little nephew, my little nephew played for SMU, went to Miami Northwestern.
Romello Brinson, he used to be down there at University of Miami. You know, he transferred.

Speaker 12 He's having a really good season for SMU as well. But I'm not sure what it is with Carson Beck.
When it comes to games where

Speaker 12 you should dominate. As a quarterback, playing against what most will consider an inferior opponent, you got to come to the party.
You got to show up.

Speaker 12 And I just talked to you about it the other day, Unc, when we talked about the Heisman Trophy candidates and how no quarterback is stepping up to the plate, where it seemed like everybody's in one pot.

Speaker 12 One week they play good, one week they play bad. Everything just happened to be up and down and inconsistent all the way across the collegiate football when it comes to quarterback play.

Speaker 12 And I mean, this is a game Miami should have won. This is a game they should have won.

Speaker 11 They should have. I like the kid from Ohio State.
He's playing his ass off. You know, he is a transfer out of Alabama.

Speaker 11 Salen. Yeah.
Saying. I think that's his name.
Saying.

Speaker 11 Saying.

Speaker 11 The kid at Texas AM. He's playing.
Marcel Reed. He's playing well.

Speaker 11 Simpson, Ty Simpson from Alabama.

Speaker 11 You know, Mendoza is going to be there because this team is 8-0. They're averaging damn near 50 points a game.

Speaker 11 But I agree with you. Carson Beck, 26-38, 274, two touchdowns, two interceptions.
I mean, just

Speaker 11 he'll he'll play great for a stretch, and you're like, oh man, okay, I see. I see why Georgia won.
I see why he was a four or five-star going to the University of Georgia.

Speaker 11 And then you're like, bro, what are you doing?

Speaker 12 Not only that, now we're not basing off, we're not based off just your stats. Now, now we're paying you $4,5 million in NIL money.

Speaker 12 Now, we expect you to be goddamn mini Patrick Mahomes out there if you're making that kind of

Speaker 12 cheddar.

Speaker 11 Expect

Speaker 11 at the collegiate level. Absolutely.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 12 I'm judging you different. Now we expect you to get us over the hump.

Speaker 12 You are supposed to be the one to take us to the promised land, making that kind of money.

Speaker 12 It's different.

Speaker 12 It's different. And you got to come to, you have to be the reason we win.
Not the reason for us losing.

Speaker 10 That's two weeks in a row now.

Speaker 12 Last week, you threw four. Today you threw one.

Speaker 10 No, was it one or two?

Speaker 12 Two. You threw two.
Come on, now. And then costly in the goddamn red zone.

Speaker 12 You got to be the difference maker man

Speaker 11 and oh cho

Speaker 11 we talk about college football you used to be man that's just a kid they don't get played like professionals if you notice the tenor and the tone have changed because now you do get played like professionals and we expect a certain level

Speaker 11 uh uh uh uh

Speaker 11 Presidents and universities, they treat them different. Bro, we got, we got, we paying you 50 million.
We paying paying this guy. We got another 10, 15, 20 million tied up in this roster.
Oh, no.

Speaker 11 It ain't no more. Oh, these are kids.
Oh, you know, we go take some time. No, it ain't going to take no time.
You got to get this done. We've given you everything that you needed.

Speaker 11 That's just, that's just the way it is.

Speaker 11 Because I remember we used to talk about it, and I really hated talking college football because, you know, coming from an NFL background, we critique differently than that's a grown man making a salary versus an 18, 19, 20-year-old kid that's not getting paid.

Speaker 11 But no more. No more.
We see guys like Jeremiah Smith, and when he drops a pass, like, come on, bro, you can't have that. Or we see a guy like

Speaker 11 Ryan Williams at Alabama dropping passes, and they were like, man, Ocho, you and Unc hard on him, bro. The man getting

Speaker 11 two and a half million dollars.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I think things are different.

Speaker 10 You're judged differently based on,

Speaker 11 but he only 18. Well, he getting money like he's 28.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I tell you what, when he go cash, when that money hit direct deposit, it ain't got no age on it. It going straight into his account.

Speaker 11 We have a different level of expectation now with our college athletes after they've started getting paid, especially the ones that are getting paid.

Speaker 11 Now, we don't judge all of them like this, but the coaches we hold even higher because of the money that they're getting paid, because they're upgrading the amenities, because they're doing everything.

Speaker 11 You know, you got a red light sauna, and you got cryo, and you got these dip tanks, and you got the best, best of offense, defensive coordinator, D-line coach, linebacker coach, DB coach.

Speaker 11 You've got the best of the best for a staff. You get the best.
I mean, you got these guys. I mean, whatever you need, protein shakes.
I mean, soon as you come out the field, they got protein shakes.

Speaker 11 You get this much protein, this much carbohydrate, this much fat.

Speaker 11 Bro.

Speaker 11 So now, Ocho,

Speaker 11 we're looking at collegiate players differently. We're looking at collegiate teams differently because guys are getting paid and there's so much money involved.

Speaker 11 So much. I mean, the payout, what was it? The payout probably gonna be 70, 80, 90 million dollars per SEC team, per

Speaker 11 Big Ten team.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, hey, go to the college football playoffs, and Ocho, this is paying your athletic budget for you.

Speaker 12 Let me tell you something. Now, you know what the payout is, you know, 70, 80 million.

Speaker 12 5-4. You understand what the budget is.
Now, the fact that you don't want to put your hand

Speaker 12 in the pot, you know, and see what we can do, you know, as a coaching staff, you'd be like a president and VP.

Speaker 11 Oh, Joe, you know,

Speaker 11 you know why I'm good at coaching?

Speaker 11 Because I know what I'm good at and I know what I'm not.

Speaker 11 I try to stay

Speaker 11 in your lane. And I stay away from where I'm going.
Okay.

Speaker 11 I didn't try a whole lot of things because

Speaker 11 I don't do good with a learning curve. Oh, you do it good.
Man, get out of here. I suck.

Speaker 11 You do it good. No, hell, I don't.
I know what I know. I'm not doing good.

Speaker 12 You got to take that back now. Now, you said you like to stay within your comfort zone.
I'm going to take it as that. You want to do things that you know you're going to succeed at and be good at.

Speaker 12 But anything you put your.

Speaker 11 That I like doing because what you like doing, I'm passionate about. You can tell what I'm passionate about.
But you love football.

Speaker 12 You love football.

Speaker 11 I don't love coaching football.

Speaker 11 Dodgers win this game. Yamamoto is going to be the World Series MVP.
He's going to do a Kurt Shillings and Randy Johnson.

Speaker 11 If they win this game, he's going to be the MVP.

Speaker 11 Two complete games. It would be three wins.
Because he'll have three wins. It won't be a save because he didn't come in on a save opportunity.
He would have won the game. Wait a minute.

Speaker 12 It's 5-4.

Speaker 11 It's 5-4 at the bottom of the tent. Who's up now?

Speaker 11 The Dodgers?

Speaker 11 The Blue Jays. What's how many outs?

Speaker 11 I hadn't started. Oh.

Speaker 11 Hadn't started. Oh.

Speaker 11 No,

Speaker 11 the thing is, is that I learned at a very young age, if you're like passionate about something, you're going to pour absolutely into it.

Speaker 12 And it doesn't feel like work.

Speaker 11 And it doesn't feel like work. This is why I was passionate about playing football.
I was passionate about training.

Speaker 11 I was passionate about, you know, getting up and going and going and doing my schoolwork. I was passionate about that.
I'm passionate about this, creating content.

Speaker 11 I'm passionate about doing club shea shave because I'm anxious to know about what, how this person came to be to sit on my couch.

Speaker 11 You just didn't magically appear on my couch. What were you as a kid? What were you as an adolescent? What were you as a young man, young woman? How did you get here? I'm interested in knowing that.

Speaker 11 I'm interested to see how similar or how different our backgrounds were.

Speaker 11 Everybody didn't have the horror story where they had to work, had to walk five miles to school, and they come from broken homes. Some came from great two-parent households.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 I'm eager to learn and to find out and to hear their story. So I'm passionate about that.
I ain't passionate about no coaching.

Speaker 12 I got you. I got you.

Speaker 11 I got you.

Speaker 11 I ain't going to even lie.

Speaker 11 I ain't going. I ain't going to

Speaker 11 hit you.

Speaker 12 Okay, okay, okay. I just thought, I thought, you know, there was a huge incentive there.
There's a huge incentive that I continue to see all the time. And we talk about it.

Speaker 12 And the pot seemed to get bigger and bigger for those that are at the collegiate level.

Speaker 12 And I understand what you could do and being able to pass down some of that knowledge that you that you you you attained and achieved over the years and passing it back down to the youth you know you could be like another nick savement you could be like a prime you could be like a uh uh uh who else who else uh a kirby what's up what

Speaker 11 All right, we got Hoosier's run,

Speaker 11 Hoosier's cornerback, D'Angelo Ponds, Shamanaj, McDonough Prep, and Hollywood.

Speaker 11 He's a big track star.

Speaker 11 He won the 100 and and the 200-meter dashes in the state of Florida.

Speaker 11 His senior year transferred from James Madison to Indiana. Bro,

Speaker 11 if you win the state track meet, if you win the state track meet in the 100 and the 200 in Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California.

Speaker 12 You get wrong. One thing about a

Speaker 11 we can't do nothing about now. We got to give you your flowers, bro.
Bro, so hold on.

Speaker 11 What was your time in the 100? What was your time in the 200?

Speaker 10 100. I was a 10-4 and 100.

Speaker 10 200. I was 21-1 or something like that.
So, yeah.

Speaker 12 Hey,

Speaker 12 that's some good times, man. That's from good time.
Now, you know, I had a chance to be Olympia. And when I was at, you know, I'm at, you know, I'm at the city now, right?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you know, I went to beats high, you know, in the 100.

Speaker 12 In the 100. Oh, in high school, I was like a 9-9, 9-9 in high school at Beach.

Speaker 12 No, I'm just saying, listen, I'm a 9-9 in the beach. And in the 200, I was like a, I was like

Speaker 12 a

Speaker 12 10, what, 10-1, Unk?

Speaker 12 No, I was 19, 19-something.

Speaker 12 19-5?

Speaker 11 This man.

Speaker 12 Not, not, not for real.

Speaker 12 I was flying now. I was flying.

Speaker 12 I come from a time, man, we used to race in the street. You know, light pole to light pole, stop sign to stop sign, car to car, no shoes.

Speaker 10 That's a crib thing. That's a crib thing.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 12 I just, I want to know. I'm going to let you go.

Speaker 12 I have to ask. What is it about this Indiana team that got y'all boys playing like this? Like y'all beating up on everybody.
Team that

Speaker 12 a game that people are counting y'all out as a team. Y'all coming in there and making the opponents that are supposed to beat y'all look damn near inferior.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I feel like the outside end, they ain't expecting us to be as good as we are, but

Speaker 10 In-house, we expect to beat them teams. Like, all them top teams, we the top dog.

Speaker 11 I ain't gonna lie. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I'm looking at you guys. You beat Kennesaw State 56-9, and you win 73-0, and you win 63-10, and you win 56-6, and you win 55-10.

Speaker 11 And after last season, I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna hold you, uh, D'Angelo. It's like, man, I like this an anomaly.
This is the A, they won and done.

Speaker 11 You followed it up basically with another season that is as good if not better you're saying look we're not one and done we're here to stay we're just not a cute story that oh indiana you remember the year in 2024 when indiana did that was so cute and cuddly no god you guys uh coach signetti got you guys balling nah definitely ain't gonna last year last year it was like we was making history every game like they never had nine nine games one in a row but we're doing it again this year showing everybody we could do it again it wasn't luck

Speaker 12 as a matter of fact you know what i I think about? Obviously,

Speaker 12 there's a deeper route to why you guys are having this kind of success. Most of the time, you know, you look at the

Speaker 12 Nick's saving years, you look at Kirby Smart and some of those coaches that have always had those great teams. Where are most of the kids from that on Indiana's team?

Speaker 10 They're from the South. They from the South.
Somewhere down the South.

Speaker 12 See,

Speaker 12 you see what I mean?

Speaker 11 You see that? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 11 I'm trying to figure out, bro, and you say it from the South. Man, it gets cold in Indiana.
You know, I want to, you know, I want to stand out there as nice as sunshine, man. It be cold.

Speaker 11 Y'all be outside practicing in the cold. You know, Penn State, it gets cold.
Ohio State, it gets cold. It gets cold.
I will. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 11 I ain't really signed up for this. So, how did you get your body acclimated to it? Bro, you from Florida, South Florida.

Speaker 10 I ain't gonna lie. When I first got to college, I had to adjust.
It took some adjusting to do, but it's little tricks I figured out, like some Vaseline and stuff like that. That could be right.

Speaker 10 But I just got used to it just by going out there and playing Vaseline.

Speaker 10 I don't feel nothing when I put Vaseline on. So I think that's one of the tricks I learned.

Speaker 12 You know what? I have one more question too, especially both us being from Florida,

Speaker 12 being from the crib. What is it about Indiana? How did they get some of the players that are coming from down south to actually go to Indiana

Speaker 12 when we have so many other options to choose from when it comes to playing college football?

Speaker 10 I just feel like we come to them with a good opportunity. Like, just tell them what they have in front of them.
See, we're winning, so I think we got the upper hand with recruiting.

Speaker 11 Like, okay, everybody wants to win. We're gonna recruit now, right? So,

Speaker 10 it's not that hard to tell them, like, yeah, we're gonna win. So, you just come join, like, you're gonna play.

Speaker 10 Okay, it ain't really hard to do.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 11 And you know what, D'Angelo? It's funny that it's great that you say that because if you guys continue this 10, 15 years from now, you'll be a part of the class that started this.

Speaker 11 You'll always have a place when you go back. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 I remember him, man. He was part of that Coach Signetti class that came here and kicked that thing off.
They went to the college football playoffs.

Speaker 11 They went back, possibly won the college football playoffs. Bro,

Speaker 11 y'all will be like mythical.

Speaker 10 It's true. I never thought about that, too.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And once once that, because.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Oh, Joe.
I mean, Savannah State, when I went to Savannah State, we hadn't really never had a winning season. Everybody Everybody still to this day talks about that class of 86.

Speaker 11 Everybody, that was my freshman class. Everybody talks about that class.
Our senior year, we was 8-1. The previous year, we were seven.
So we won like 15,

Speaker 11 in two years, we won like 15 games. Nobody had ever, no team had ever done that.
So this is what, you know, you guys have a big 10. Can you imagine a Big Ten championship? for Indiana?

Speaker 11 A college football playoff national champion. Bro, you imagine.
You will never, never, ever have to pay for anything in Bloomington, Indiana, ever, ever again in your life.

Speaker 10 Facts.

Speaker 11 You might have to think about moving back yesterday.

Speaker 11 I ain't got to pay no rent. I ain't got to pay no mortgage.
I get a car.

Speaker 12 Hey, you know what's so funny? The way y'all beating teams. Like, do y'all even watch film? Brother, you'll see what y'all did to Maryland, man.

Speaker 12 I mean, do coaches just give y'all the day off? Like, what is there to watch at that point when you die? I'm talking about completely dominate teams. And every...
Oh, oh hell no damn

Speaker 10 don't worry don't worry that question no yeah we watch

Speaker 10 we we ain't uh taking nobody lightly either right right

Speaker 10 we definitely should do I don't know if you watch the game or not but we was into like four minutes left the starters were still in we was up yeah we was up still so we ain't taking nobody lightly everybody get the same treatment right right now I mean I'm saying

Speaker 11 so so what do you guys do on a Sunday do you come in do y'all get treatment watch film or do we give you Sunday off and then you guys get ready to hit it again on Monday?

Speaker 10 What's your statement? So, on a Sunday, we'll go in for health check. Uh, no film or nothing like that.
We'll do some little hamstring work

Speaker 10 and health check. Really, that's it.
It's just treatment, and then you get to go home. You're off on Sunday.
Okay, and then Monday, we'll come in and watch film.

Speaker 11 Yeah, no, oh, you know, no price on Monday, but y'all hit it Tuesday week.

Speaker 10 It's a walkthrough, though, right?

Speaker 11 Okay, okay, okay. Yeah,

Speaker 11 damn, hey, when

Speaker 11 we were third, man, we was out there third and up on Monday.

Speaker 11 I need to go back to school now. I should have been born back in 2000.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 2003, 2004.

Speaker 12 Hey, dude, what I was talking about, when I was talking about watching film, I'm not talking about before a game.

Speaker 12 I'm saying when you dominate a game, like you played Maryland, most of the time, let's say the Bengals, we played the Steelers.

Speaker 12 Obviously, you play Sunday, but sometimes Sunday, I mean, Monday, you know, you come in, you do your treatment, do whatever, you go upstairs and you watch the previous game.

Speaker 12 But when when you dominate games like this, y'all still watch film when you win a game 55 to 10. That's what I meant.

Speaker 10 Yeah. There's always mistakes made in each game you can learn from.
So I'm going to go. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 12 I was just curious. Shit, man.
See, that's why I couldn't be no head coach, but we beat somebody 52-10, or we consistently dominating people week to week, scoring 40-plus.

Speaker 12 Man, y'all boys take the day off, man.

Speaker 10 Nah, our coaches demand perfection. So they're going to perfect you no matter what.

Speaker 12 Okay, okay. I got it.
I got it.

Speaker 11 Never accept anything in a win. You wouldn't have lost.

Speaker 11 So even though we beat somebody 55-10 and somebody missed some assignments, that's not acceptable.

Speaker 11 I'm not going to allow that to happen because then you'll think that play because we won is acceptable. You guys have the third best defense in the country.
I mean,

Speaker 11 God damn.

Speaker 11 When you think of Indiana, I don't know if you really think of defense. I mean, you're putting up 55 points.
You're probably thinking about offense.

Speaker 11 But when you see 10, you see 6, you see 13, you see 15, you see 10 you see nine you see zero you're like okay yeah okay i see

Speaker 11 if that if that if that's your mindset is like look if we get turnovers we create short fields for our offense our offense is going to cash in and then that's going to allow us to really put our pin our ears back and then we can just sit on stuff because we know that ball

Speaker 10 that's definitely the mindset uh just to have our offense back each game make it easier for them uh and they make it easier for us some games too so that's definitely the mindset just to uh not give nothing up.

Speaker 10 We don't like catches. We don't like yards.
We don't like none of that. So that's why we were one of the top defenses in the country.

Speaker 11 Let me ask you,

Speaker 11 what made you choose Indiana? Because obviously, first of all,

Speaker 11 you probably have some opportunity to go somewhere and run track.

Speaker 11 You run 10-4 in high school, that probably figures like, you know what, with the right training, because they're looking at it like in high school, these guys ain't really getting training like they're supposed to.

Speaker 11 But we get the right training, we get the right supplementation into them, give them the right nutrition, right track coach. We can probably get this guy down to the 10, maybe even sub-10.

Speaker 11 We definitely feel like we can get him down low 20, low 20 point, oh, low 20s, maybe even dip below

Speaker 11 20. So what was your thinking when you went to Indiana? Did you want to do a dude? Did you want to run track, play football? Or was Indian, were you all in on football?

Speaker 10 The crazy part with me is I didn't have no like big offers out of high school. I went to James Madison with Coach Sinetti.

Speaker 11 Okay, okay, yeah,

Speaker 10 James Madison.

Speaker 10 No, I wasn't thinking about running track either. I ran track because everybody who played football had to run track.
So I drafted it.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I happened to run track.

Speaker 10 But I went to James Madison. And then out of James Madison, I entered a portal.
And

Speaker 10 it was really a no-brainer to follow Signetti to Indiana. So that's how I ended up at Indiana.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 11 I see what you're putting down now. You know, he, you know what I'm saying, Ocho, they drop a little breadcrumbs.
You know, Hanson and Gremlin. You know how they got back home.
They had breadcrumbs.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you know, know, Coach Signetti dropped a couple of breadcrumbs for him. Like, hey, I'm gonna leave this right here for you.
Go pick it up.

Speaker 11 You have a little something on the floor for it. He grabbed it in Bloomington, Indiana.
There he is.

Speaker 11 Hey,

Speaker 11 so look, you got three games left. You're at Penn State, Wisconsin at home, and then you got Purdue.

Speaker 11 Everything

Speaker 11 that you guys, I'm sure, everything that Coach Signetti put up on the board of what the goals and what you wanted to accomplish, you're three wins away in the regular season.

Speaker 11 That's not the ultimate goal. Obviously, win the Big Ten.
Obviously, get into the college football playoffs. This year,

Speaker 11 obviously, cash it all in. You're three games away.
How do you keep the focus?

Speaker 11 How do you stay right here and don't get here? Like, man, man, Penn State, they already done fired. They coach, they done gave up on the season.
We got Wisconsin at home.

Speaker 11 Ain't nobody beating us at home. And then we got Purdue.
Nah,

Speaker 11 we got them. Even though

Speaker 11 that's a rivalry game, Purdue and Indiana. That's That's a rivalry game.

Speaker 10 We just keep that same

Speaker 10 one-oh mindset.

Speaker 10 We ain't got to change nothing up. Just go one to know each week, not looking ahead.

Speaker 10 It'll come. Whatever we got in store for us, it's going to come.
So just go one-oh each week. That's the goal for us.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I remember that, man. Man, congratulations, man.
Thanks for joining us tonight. We really, really appreciate having you on Nightcast tonight, man.
Best of luck.

Speaker 11 Tell everybody, hey, congratulations. Keep your head down.
Keep your ears open and full steam ahead, man. Hey, when y'all win the Big Ten, come back and tell us what you're doing.
I got you.

Speaker 11 I appreciate

Speaker 11 D'Angelo Prons joining us tonight.

Speaker 12 Hey, that was dope.

Speaker 11 For the Indiana Hoosiers, he's the cornerback on the third best defense in the country, and they give up 11 points a game, less than 11 points a game, actually, 10.9.

Speaker 12 Hey, you know what?

Speaker 12 That Woodsham Carlton game is going to be really good.

Speaker 12 That Penn State game is going to be really, really good.

Speaker 12 That's going to be a tall tale and a tough tag. Hey, John A.

Speaker 12 What's up, boy?

Speaker 11 God. What's up, baby?

Speaker 10 I had a

Speaker 10 like a, I guess we'll call it like a Nissan. I guess I had like a Nissan Ultima on the World Series.
So I've been sitting there

Speaker 10 trying to. Yeah.

Speaker 11 You took the Dodgers?

Speaker 10 Maybe. I took the Dodgers.
Wait, they lost?

Speaker 11 They won in extra innings.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they won at 11. Yamamoto was He was a smart car or something.

Speaker 11 I mean,

Speaker 11 Oral Horshiser in 1988 did the exact same thing. He was World Series MVP.
If you go back and look at 2001, I think that's when the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees.

Speaker 11 And that's when Kurt Schillings and Randy Johnson shared the MVP. And I said, based on what he had done in the first game, complete game.

Speaker 11 And then he followed it up in game six to get him in game seven. And I say, you know what? If he comes in and get the save,

Speaker 11 he's going to be the MVP.

Speaker 10 And rightly so. Rightly so, for sure.

Speaker 12 Wait, hey hold on I'm confused now you say you you you bet a Nissan Altima on the Dodgers to win this game right no

Speaker 10 the series when the series

Speaker 10 came out and I saw it was Toronto versus LA right immediately was like I think the Dodgers are gonna win this game win the series 100

Speaker 10 okay and I went to game three 18 innings I sat in left field until 1230 in LA and watched every play of that game probably the best sporting event I've ever ever been to in my life.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 10 And crazy. What a series.
What a game. The last two nights.
Unbelievable World Series. Everybody who's a baseball fan should have thoroughly enjoyed that.
Sure.

Speaker 10 And what a wild day of college football, too.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah, absolutely. Unc, if I'm not mistaken.
So the series is what? Is it tied? It's over.

Speaker 11 It's over. 4-3.

Speaker 10 That was game set. That's it? That's it.
Yep.

Speaker 12 God damn, the Jodgers didn't went back to back?

Speaker 10 Back to back.

Speaker 11 Back to back. That's the first time.
That was the first time since the Big Red Machine, 75-76, that a national league team has gone back to back with Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan and all those guys.

Speaker 11 Tom, see, don't worry about that. Back in the day.

Speaker 12 And see, listen, when you think about the investment, when you think about the payroll and the investment that they put on these players, Freeman, Otani,

Speaker 11 who else? Beth.

Speaker 2 Mookie.

Speaker 11 Betch.

Speaker 11 They got Yamamoto. They got Glass now.
They played Blake Snail.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 12 I don't know why the Dodgers figured it out, Johnny. Well, how come the Yankees can't do it? Because the Yankee did the same.
They had the same goddamn philosophy.

Speaker 11 Pitching.

Speaker 11 And Yankees, I mean, if you think about it, it was the Dodgers pitching that actually saved him. Yamamoto gave because Yamamoto gave a complete game in game six.
Well, he gave him six.

Speaker 11 He gave him a complete game in game six.

Speaker 12 He played nine innings?

Speaker 11 He gave nine innings. And he came in.

Speaker 10 And he came in tonight. He came in in certain situations.

Speaker 11 Last night, he gave him six innings last night, and he came in.

Speaker 12 How the hell are you going to come in tonight after just pitching nine? And your shoulder's supposed to be off the bone.

Speaker 10 Because you don't play until next spring. You ain't got to do nothing.

Speaker 11 Yeah, we worry about that. That's why they gave him what they gave you.

Speaker 12 Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 11 When you pay that,

Speaker 11 that's why the Dodgers,

Speaker 11 the Dodgers guy is the same guy that just brought the

Speaker 11 Lakers.

Speaker 10 Ah.

Speaker 11 So they going to spend money. They say it takes money to make money.
You see, Mookie Bess got a $200 million contract. Freddie Freeman got $150.
Shohay got $700. You got Glass now.
You got Snail.

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 12 congratulations to you, Dodgers fans. You know, I'm not much of a baseball fan, despite me being a five-tooler in high school.
But congratulations to y'all, boys.

Speaker 11 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 11 I'm a bigger.

Speaker 11 I like baseball. I don't watch it like I used to.
I used to watch the World Series all the time. I'm very familiar with the players.
I'm very familiar with the history of the game.

Speaker 11 But,

Speaker 11 man, the Dodgers are me. Think about it.
It's been 75, 76. That's 50 years that you've had a National League team go back to back.

Speaker 11 I mean, the Yankees, you remember the Yankees, the Yankees won, what, 92, no, 98, 99, 2000. They lost in 2001 to the Diamondbacks.
That was the

Speaker 11 9-11 series.

Speaker 11 But, man,

Speaker 11 Dodgers, congratulations. I mean, hey, I guess they got the best team money you buy yeah

Speaker 11 oh state hasn't had a heisman trophy winner since troy smith captured the award back in 2006 but heading into the final month of the regular season the buckeyes now boast a heisman frontrunner julian sayin delivered another performance in the 38-14 win over penn state the sophomore quarterback completed 20 of 23 passes 316 yards for touchdown with the latest outing say and jumped alabama quarterback ty simpson and indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza to become the Heisman favorite.

Speaker 11 Johnny,

Speaker 11 what you thinking? I mean, he was an Alabama, he was an Alabama transfer.

Speaker 11 Coach Sabin said today that, you know,

Speaker 11 he was the coach that had him running scout team.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, look, this guy is playing really, really well right now going into the last month of the season.

Speaker 10 Obviously, things change in the Heisman race, but when you look at Ohio State's picture, the way that they're playing, the way that he's playing, you think all of us would probably have to agree here that he's a shoe-in for New York.

Speaker 10 He's going to end up as a finalist

Speaker 10 for sure. Now it's kind of pan somebody else.

Speaker 10 There's that moment, right? We talk about it all the time. There's the moment that comes.
Has he played stellar enough to get to New York? Absolutely.

Speaker 10 Do I believe that Marcel Reed so far has played stellar enough to get to New York? Absolutely.

Speaker 10 I think Mendoza as well from Indiana has probably played well enough to get to New York.

Speaker 10 But look, Tasso

Speaker 10 played well enough to get to New York as well.

Speaker 10 If you had to ask me, those four guys, obviously, leading the odds right now if you're going by the odds makers, but there is still that time to capture a moment.

Speaker 10 There is still that time to go out and have a game or a play or a series

Speaker 10 that sets you apart from the rest. Is Ohio State going to have a game that they're actually in for him to have something like that?

Speaker 10 Or are they just going to breeze through undefeated, kick everybody's ass, be the member war?

Speaker 11 Maybe Michigan. Maybe.

Speaker 10 We'll see.

Speaker 10 Michigan didn't look very good today, but you know, that game, you throw everything else out the window.

Speaker 10 I'm really looking at Marcel Reed. He does get that moment.
If Texas plays the way

Speaker 10 the way they did today, you go into the last game of the season.

Speaker 10 You take care of business in Missouri next week.

Speaker 10 You go beat Sanford. You get Texas day after Thanksgiving on the road.
You look what just happened.

Speaker 10 I'm really interested because no way would I have thought that Vandi would have been favored or would have been underdogs in that game today.

Speaker 10 Vandi was never in that game today until the onside kick was wiggling its way out of bounds. They were never in that game for a second.
So Texas manhandled them.

Speaker 10 That was the best Texas team has looked all year. You have to, for the first time, as I've sat on here and bashed Arch Manning, bashed the way Texas has looked.
They still have no run game.

Speaker 10 Did his receivers and their outside blocking scheme, ocho, that was some of the best hat on hat, outside blocking I've seen in a long, long time. Open up the play, first play of the game.

Speaker 10 Arch didn't have to do a lot to get started in the game, but get the ball out of your hand quick, get it on the perimeter, hat on a hat, take it to the crib.

Speaker 10 I would do this with Mike Evans all the time. So you do have to give Texas credit.
They have a very solid O-line because Mandy threw everything they could at them.

Speaker 10 Their defense and pass rush, pretty solid.

Speaker 10 They played really well. So, if Arch can play like that, I think you go into the last game of the season, Texas versus Texas AM.

Speaker 10 You may have Texas favorite in that one, too.

Speaker 11 I think the thing is,

Speaker 11 Johnny and Ocho, when you look at it, Texas played for three quarters. They can't play any better than what they played for three quarters.
Their defense was outstanding on Pavia.

Speaker 11 Arch Manning was, I mean, he got hit in the chest and he threw a ball in the end zone.

Speaker 11 I'm talking about he took a shot right to the chops and he, he, he, he, let, hey, I'm like, okay, walk it to him, Arch.

Speaker 11 And then all of a sudden, come the fourth quarter, they forget how to play football. Two blown coverages.
Bro, how you lead how twice? They got a third and 19,

Speaker 11 and you let a guy pick it up. I'm like, bro, no, it was fourth and 19.

Speaker 11 What, third and 19?

Speaker 11 Yes!

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 you let two, I mean, you had three plays where I'm talking about DBs. What are you doing? Yeah, the one, the one player.
You're going to see that real quick. You're going to see the switch.

Speaker 10 That's just, where does that come from?

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 on the fourth and 19,

Speaker 11 I'm like, Corner, why are you sinking so much? The guy catches a 16-yard route turn. He's already at the first down.
You don't have to sink that much.

Speaker 11 I was like,

Speaker 11 back to saying he has four games this season, completing 85% of his passes with 300 yards and at least three passing touchdowns. No quarterback in the country has more than one such game.

Speaker 11 Saying who backed up Will Howard last year's championship run is putting up big numbers in his first season as a starter. 2,224 yards, 24 touchdowns.
Only three picks.

Speaker 11 The top-ranked Buckeyes are trying to win back-to-back national championships for the first time in their program.

Speaker 12 Uncle Johnny, they got a good chance to do it. They got a good chance to do it.
Listen, saying, what it was, 2020, 20, 20, 23 today, four TDs.

Speaker 12 And when you got weapons like Cardinal Tate, you got Jeremiah Smith, you know,

Speaker 12 having to come to the, hey, listen, having to come to the job, it's easy to get the motherfucking job done. When you got them kind of weapons, they got over there in Ohio State.

Speaker 12 But what I wanted to say about the Heisman Trophy, the Heisman Trophy case, right? And those that are all of a sudden, the names are now in the pot towards it.

Speaker 12 Johnny,

Speaker 12 what game are we in? We in week, what, 10? Week nine? Something like that? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 The fact that it took this long for

Speaker 10 I was really, mine was really like 10.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that was really good.

Speaker 12 I'm going to just say week 10. The fact that we're finally seeing names come out of the hat.
where nobody has separated themselves for the past nine to 10 weeks says all you need to know.

Speaker 12 That says everything you need to know.

Speaker 12 You know, that they're good they're they're okay but ain't no goddamn johnny manzales it ain't no cam newtons ain't no a ain't no joe burrows that from week one all the way through they cutting the fool

Speaker 11 i i think the thing was what happened is that there was really no quarterback that was in the heisman running last year that came back to school So normally, you know, Johnny, you normally have a guy that was in the Heisman running or, you know, he was on the, and then he came back.

Speaker 11 But you get a Travis, he leaved. You get all those guys that's leaving.
You get

Speaker 11 an Aston Genty. He leaves.
So Buster, think about it. Saying wasn't even starting.
Ty Simpson wasn't even starting. Arch Manning wasn't starting.
So you coming back with a,

Speaker 11 and guys have to show you, you know, they tried to, Arch Manning is the favorite based on what?

Speaker 11 Now, he's played well the last couple of weeks, but how you going to say he's the favorite? Now, Marcel Reed,

Speaker 11 he was a starter last year. He probably was him and Mendoza was the only starters that we can say, like, okay.

Speaker 10 You can really only say that for Marcel after he comes in the second half versus LSU last year. If you look at the way Texas AM ended the season last year,

Speaker 10 you aren't putting him on no Heisman list.

Speaker 10 If there was any quarterback that was returning this year that you would have had on the Heisman list early in the season, it would have been Penn State's quarterback. It would have been Drew Larr.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, oh, but yeah,

Speaker 11 i i don't know

Speaker 11 don't don't get me started and matir what material didn't matir transfer into uh uh there was a lot of heisman matir talk earlier in this year for sure too yeah and so i i think that's that's that's what you have to and you said it johnny you go back and look at joe burrow he had his heisman moment against alabama he had that run they come out there and they go head to head because you know it's star versus stars look at all those wide receivers that go in the first round the quarterback is number one and then you get two are going what uh uh number five and then you have all those receivers.

Speaker 11 You got burrow, I mean, excuse me, you got Jetta, you got Chase, you got Judy, you got Rugs, you got uh uh uh uh uh Devontae Smith, you got Jalen Waddell, you got Najee,

Speaker 11 man, bro, look at look at all the talent out there. So, and then Joe has that moment.
You have Devontae Smith, who just goes crazy. Jalen Waddell gets hurt, and every week he's having 180, 200.

Speaker 11 He's running a punt back, he's doing doing something that, no, you got to stand up and pay attention to me.

Speaker 11 Well, like you said, Johnny, I'm just waiting on, I don't know who or when they're going to have that moment. You had your moment down in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 11 That was Johnny Menzel's coming out party. From that point on, they got a kid man down there at Tuscaloosa.
I got

Speaker 10 help, though, even after that game. And this is a crazy thing, the way the college football universe works.

Speaker 10 There's an offensive coordinator right now who's sitting at Texas A ⁇ M in Marcel Reed's room every day coaching him. The name is Colin Klein.
On week 12 of the season, Colin

Speaker 10 Klein was going to win the Heisman that year. Colin Klein was winning that race.
I was making a late push, but they played Baylor.

Speaker 10 After we played Missouri, our last game of the season. I had done everything I could do.
We went out, smoked Missouri, had an unbelievable game.

Speaker 10 And when we got out of that game, I went to a party with all my boys on the team, and everybody was doing a ring dunk at Texas A ⁇ M. And I was glued to a Kansas State versus Baylor game.
And

Speaker 10 Baylor beat the brakes off of Kansas State. Colin Klein had a really rough night.
And I truly believe that when I left that night and went back home, I knew that I had won the Heisman that night.

Speaker 10 There used to be a thing called Heisman Pundit. And for nine years in a row, this guy had a website that

Speaker 10 had predicted

Speaker 10 eight of the nine years, he would collect enough votes from voters to see who would win it. And I was on this site every day checking.

Speaker 10 And when he had tallied up enough votes and said I was going to win, I kind of knew. But I needed help that year to even be able to get there.

Speaker 10 And when I was going into the Heisman, I thought Manta High might sneak in and take it.

Speaker 10 The way the media was around Manta.

Speaker 11 Because you came from so far. You got to realize where you came.
You weren't even nobody. I was lucky to even be on the field, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 12 Hey, wait, hey, Johnny, who'd you say, Mike? Who you say you thought was going to win it?

Speaker 10 Anti-Teo. That whole girlfriend thing came out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
The way it was,

Speaker 10 even at the Heisman, even because you do the college football awards, the ESPN and Disney before that. And he came through, won a lot of awards.

Speaker 10 And then...

Speaker 10 We got to New York. We're doing all the press and everything.
I'm like, man, this guy might really have a shot. Notre Dame's a really beloved team in college football.
He was a great player that year.

Speaker 10 Got his team into the national title. Luckily, you know, and I had the freshman bias too.
That was a big thing.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Well, they had started, they had forgotten about that because once they let Tebow had won it, because it used to be a situation, Adrian Peterson could have easily won the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 11 Herschel Walker could have easily won the Heisman Trophy. Marshall Falk,

Speaker 11 his year, you go back and look at the year that Gino Toretto won it. How the the hell Marshall Falk didn't win that award? I don't know.
But there are a lot of guys there.

Speaker 11 There are a lot of guys that won that we go back and look at, like, hold on.

Speaker 11 Like, I mean, hell, if I'd have played D1 ball in 2001, I think I'd have won the Heisman because Eric Crouch ends up winning it. I'm like, how the, like, what? And then Jason White wins it one year.

Speaker 11 I'm like, y'all just giving it. Y'all got to give it to y'all figure.
Y'all got to give it to somebody. No, respectfully, OJo, as you like to use the word respectfully.

Speaker 11 But Eric Crouch rushing for a thousand yards and throwing for like 700, that ain't no Heisman. I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 And it took him throwing the ball in the end zone and hitting somebody put, getting kicked up in there, Johnny. You probably were too young to remember that when that happened.
But

Speaker 11 man,

Speaker 11 it's going to be close. I think we're going to have a very, very close Heisman trophy race this year.

Speaker 10 I think if Sand comes in and has a good game in the Michigan game, they go to the championship game. They roll things out.

Speaker 10 He continues to play the way he is, throwing for a lot of yards, throwing touchdowns, three-plus touchdowns every game.

Speaker 10 If he does that, continues the streak that he's on, he's going to be tough to go beat.

Speaker 10 But the thing about Marcel is he has so much ability to be able to bring in, like he had a couple flashes that almost looked Lamar-esque last week versus LSU.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you know, he's kind of skirting into the end zone. He's so deadly with his feet.
His receivers, you know, he's chunking the ball around.

Speaker 10 I think he has that dual threat that fits what you've seen from myself, from a Mariota type. Now, does he throw it as well as us right now at this point? No,

Speaker 10 but he runs it well enough to have a dual threat with, you know, is in line for Heisman guys in the past. So obviously, I'm going to be a homer.
I'm starting my

Speaker 10 Marcel for Heisman campaign here relatively lately. I think about November 15th, I'm really going to fire up the train.

Speaker 10 Nevertheless, I think we'll have a good race. One right now that seems a little bit unclear, but in a couple of weeks, two, three weeks, I think we'll start to see some people pull away.

Speaker 11 It'll crystallize itself. Arch Manning and the Texas return to Darryl K.
Rock Royal Stadium for their first home game in 42 days on Saturday. Arch went 25 of 33, 328, three touchdowns.
No INTs.

Speaker 11 The number 20 Longhorns held off the number nine Vanderbilt Commodores, despite the Commodore scoring 21 fourth quarter points.

Speaker 11 Arch became the first player in Texas history with 300 passing yards, three touchdowns, 75%

Speaker 11 completion percentage against a top 10 opponent. Manning was blitzed on 10 of his 34 drop backs.
He finished eight of 10, 145. All three of his touchdowns came against five or more pressure.

Speaker 11 His career touchdown against the blitz, he has the most touchdowns against the blitz in his career, and all three came on play action. He had a three touchdown.

Speaker 11 He had such three touchdown passes in his career coming into today. Longhorns fans chanted, overrated at commodores quarterback diego

Speaker 12 he wasn't no overrated well poppy it was 27 38 for three tds

Speaker 11 and he had uh 365.

Speaker 2 man

Speaker 11 yeah and then he only turned the ball over once that one turnover

Speaker 11 um i i just think the thing was look Texas got concerned. Johnny, you know, you get a big league like that.
You start running the ball. And next thing you know, you in third and eight.

Speaker 11 And then guess what? You're off the field. Now, team get a little momentum.

Speaker 11 Okay, they score. Okay, you keep the ball for two or three minutes.
You kick it back to them. Now you blow a possession.
Now you blow a coverage. Now, guess what? The guy just scored in 10 seconds.

Speaker 11 Now you got hell on your hands. Now you're like, okay, now what do I call? I want to make them burn the time miles, but I also want to give us an opportunity to try to, you know,

Speaker 11 run some time off the clock.

Speaker 11 Now they get the ball and you guys had it.

Speaker 11 They had the guy bobbled the ball. The linebacker had it.
I mean, you won't get a better shot on both sides than what they did.

Speaker 12 I've been hearing him talk.

Speaker 10 This infuriated me.

Speaker 10 Why do we got linebackers on his team?

Speaker 11 Because ain't none of those boys that were touching that ball ever felt leather in their life other than the couch. Them boys ain't touched a rock in weeks.

Speaker 11 You put linebackers on there to go blow people up.

Speaker 11 Because you hoped.

Speaker 11 They didn't know what to do with it. It

Speaker 10 looked like an ice cube bouncing around in somebody's hand.

Speaker 11 I mean, look,

Speaker 10 Texas, throughout that game, yeah, you get comfy. You let off the gas a little bit.
It is hard to keep that pace and keep that tempo up when you're just trying to get out of there, right?

Speaker 10 But at the end of the day, Texas, that was a dominant performance, one that I have to give to them. Sark game planned that and Vanderbilt very, very well.

Speaker 10 They knew their offensive line was really struggling at Vanderbilt. They did the week before.

Speaker 10 They brought some good blitzes. Colin Simmons, they had some guys really getting after Pavia all day.

Speaker 10 The pass rush really didn't settle down until the fourth quarter on those last drives.

Speaker 10 Where I think sometimes you get enough plays in college football where the play count starts to get up there and guys just get gas. It's just what it is.

Speaker 10 But that was pure domination. I mean,

Speaker 10 from pretty much

Speaker 10 until nine minutes, eight minutes left in that ball game, it was all Texas.

Speaker 10 And it could have, you know, there was a late pass where Texas ended up missing a field goal to give Vandy the ball at like the 35 or 40 that kind of started the whole thing.

Speaker 11 On a third down, yeah, that's literally the first play to score Texas.

Speaker 10 The guy bounced and hit the ground when they reviewed it. But when they put the points up and said that it was good, and I looked at the scoreboard and it said 40 to 16, I'm like, oh, this is

Speaker 10 ass whooping. Yeah.
This is bad. And that's how it felt really throughout the whole day.
I think you got to see a glimpse of what Texas could be or where it's expected to be this season. Right.

Speaker 10 And this is giving them, it should. And I did an autograph signing today with Marcel Reed, Concepcion, Cravers, all my Aggies because they're on a bye week here in Houston.

Speaker 10 And we're watching that game. And I'm like, yo, Vandy's getting their ass kicked.
And they're like, oh, really?

Speaker 10 I'm like, this just gives Texas the momentum they need going into the schedule that they have, in my opinion.

Speaker 10 You know, you beat a top 10 team, you go in, this gives you a little spark.

Speaker 12 Listen, and one of the reasons why they can be the top 10 team, one of the reasons why Texas looked the way they look, you know, these past few weeks is because of the quarterback play.

Speaker 12 Arch Manning is decided to come to the party. He decided to come to the party and play much, much better than what he looked like at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 11 If he had been playing like this, Ocho. From the beginning?

Speaker 11 I'm not saying that he beats Ohio State. That's not what he plays.

Speaker 12 They have one loss. That's what they would have.
Only one loss. Yep.

Speaker 10 Well, if he plays like that, you have a defense like that, an offensive line that can protect. You got a good coach.

Speaker 10 The one area of the flaw that you haven't seen in their game the entirety of the year. And Sark even said this today.
If we can just rush the ball for 100, 125 yards, we'll be okay.

Speaker 10 He's on his knees every day in that building, begging to be able to find a running lane.

Speaker 10 they can't run the ball nowhere in a pop orner league right now they couldn't run the ball and and that's just like one thing that's going to catch up to them like you run into a defense like a m who plays the run pretty well like you're going to have a hard day when you become one-dimensional

Speaker 11 yeah you one-dimensional i mean if you can't you you've got to be able to

Speaker 11 Make people think you can run the football.

Speaker 11 You might not be able to run it, but if you just, if them guys just say they can't run the football, they're not going to try to run the football because they can't.

Speaker 11 And we just going to go hunt your quarterback. You can't.
You in for a long, long, long ass day.

Speaker 12 And Johnny, you know, that goes for the NFL as well.

Speaker 12 If you can't establish the run, if you can't push and apply pressure to players against their own will and having the running game

Speaker 12 to kind of save you so you can pass the ball, most of the time, you know, you got to run the ball to open up the pass.

Speaker 10 Your play actually goes out the window. What are you faking for? You ain't got no no threat to run it.

Speaker 12 Once you become one-dimensional,

Speaker 12 it's a wrap. It's a wrap.

Speaker 11 Johnny, the Agas are undefeated and ranked number one in ESPN strength of schedule metric. You guys beat Notre Dame.
You beat Auburn. You beat Florida.

Speaker 11 You beat LSU. You got Missouri, who's ranked 19th.

Speaker 11 But you got also, you're on the road against number 20th, Texas.

Speaker 10 Don't know if you guys already spoke about this, but that Florida win for us looks looks a little bit better after today because

Speaker 10 they had Georgia on the rope.

Speaker 10 They had them on the rope. I don't know if it's, you know, sometimes you get an interim coach in there.
You get somebody else calling play.

Speaker 10 Lagway showed a little bit of flashes. I mean, they played Georgia really, really tough today.
I think, you know, Georgia had to go out and make some plays.

Speaker 10 I think, once again, they're kind of lucky to be able to escape out of there.

Speaker 10 But getting back to the Aggies, look, you got to go still continue to take care of business and just one game at a time, take care of business. Everything is setting up for an unbelievable showdown.

Speaker 10 This is why the rivalry was brought back. And I think there's a lot of guys in our locker room, and I know there's a lot of guys in that Texas locker room that remember how last year felt.

Speaker 10 Because I went to that game and I sat through four quarters of that. We didn't come close to winning that game, not for a moment.
Both teams have a lot of people back.

Speaker 10 Obviously, Arch is the guy now, but Arch got in that game last year, brought a spark, scored a touchdown. He's going to feel confident coming into this game against Elko.

Speaker 10 I think for our guys at AM,

Speaker 10 listen, this is the chance to get to that game undefeated and do something that hasn't been done at this school in a long, long time. Marcel, you want that Heisman?

Speaker 12 Go and take it.

Speaker 10 Go and take it. Against a team that Texas by then, well, they were what, 20 this week? They're going to be ranked closer to the top 10.

Speaker 11 They're going to be a little

Speaker 11 bit more.

Speaker 10 They beat two top 10 teams this year.

Speaker 11 They might be 20.

Speaker 11 You go beat. You have a number.

Speaker 10 You're going to have a number three versus a number 12 matchup in the last week of the season with a ticket to the

Speaker 10 SEC championship on the line. You've already punched a ticket to the playoff.
You win this game. This gives you a two seed and a bye.

Speaker 10 Everything you want right there in front of you. How bad you want it.
You want to hit the club? You want to go chase girls? You want to mess around?

Speaker 10 You want to get in the book?

Speaker 10 Bless you. Or you want to go get it.
For A ⁇ M,

Speaker 10 I think you're starting to get some respect. I think I heard Sabin say this the other day.

Speaker 10 The two teams that that have impressed him the most, that have shown complete from top to bottom, where they really look like they don't have a ton of flaws and look solid fundamentally through all areas of football, special teams, offense, defense.

Speaker 10 I have a head coach that's not putting you in bad situations. It's Ohio State and AM.
So for my Aggies,

Speaker 10 it's still premature because anything can happen in the SEC if you have one of those off days. But everything that you want is right there in front of you.

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