Nightcap Hour 2: Ole Miss RB Kewan Lacy joins NIGHTCAP + NFL FINES Amon-Ra St. Brown + Tyreek Hill CHANGES bio to UNEMPLOYED + T.O. comes to AJ Browns DEFENSE

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Speaker 11 Texas Tech football coach Jory McGuire wants his linebacker Jacob Rodriguez to receive the same Heisman talk as quarterback.

Speaker 11 It's why Red Raiders coach put his star linebacker under center to run the the Wildcat formation in the first quarter of the number eight

Speaker 11 Texas Tech win over UCF. Everybody's talking about quarterbacks for Heisman, so we put him in that quarterback today, and he scored a touchdown right before an interception.

Speaker 11 I said, Man, get the ball back. Let's get it into the end zone.
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Speaker 11 Johnny, Ocho, what you think? You think he's playing at a high enough level? Is he doing similar to what

Speaker 11 Travis Honor did last year?

Speaker 12 For Romanti Teow, you compare it to that year where he finished second to me.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 12 My first thought, first of all, shout out to him having an unbelievable season. Shout out to Texas Tech and their coach being that damn cool to be like, yo, we're going to do this for him.

Speaker 12 That's what Sumlin did for me and Kingsbury did for me.

Speaker 13 They let me try and kick a field goal. They tried to get me.

Speaker 12 They tried to get me every stat in the book when it got close. I respect that.
I think he's having an unbelievable season. One of the the best we've seen by a linebacker in a long time.

Speaker 12 It's an unbelievable story. He probably deserves to be in New York.
However,

Speaker 12 most outstanding college football player in America is what the award goes to. I have a hard time sitting here arguing that he's the best defensive player in the country.

Speaker 12 I think Caleb Downs is probably a better defensive football player than them at those moments.

Speaker 11 That's Millet from

Speaker 11 Ohio State.

Speaker 13 He's the real deal. But listen,

Speaker 11 for me,

Speaker 11 the best player in college football is Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 11 If you're saying

Speaker 12 the best, most outstanding players.

Speaker 11 The most outstanding player in college football is Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 13 Absolutely. But listen, he's played extremely well collectively as a group.

Speaker 13 The team is doing really well this year. He's been a big part of that.
Defense was smothering today. UCF really couldn't get anything going.
But he's good.

Speaker 13 As far as up for the Heisman,

Speaker 13 that's a little tough. That's a little tough for me, especially from a linebacker.
He's had a good season, but

Speaker 13 I don't see him or view him in that LeVar Arrington type era, that Ray Lewis, you know, type era, where you're just dominant, a dominant force.

Speaker 11 Well, he's going to get there.

Speaker 11 97 tackles, nine and a half tackles for loss, a sack, four interceptions, seven force fumbles, two fumble recoveries, and two touchdowns.

Speaker 13 Yeah, that's good. Is that pretty good?

Speaker 13 Did you just hit the name that compared?

Speaker 13 Okay, there's a difference.

Speaker 13 There's levels to it.

Speaker 12 He's playing well, but like, Dominican Brew didn't win the Heisman, and he, and he had one.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's the best, that's the best college player. That's the, like I said, there have been some, there have been some

Speaker 11 back then, college different defenders didn't really get any consideration. Because, like I said, you go back and look at Derrick Thomas's, his last year.

Speaker 11 You go back and look at Derrick Thomas's last year, and you're like,

Speaker 11 and if he had a a seat, if somebody had a season like that, I believe he went high enough.

Speaker 13 Heisman, that's a stretch.

Speaker 13 That's a stretch. And that's no disrespect to young bull out there at Texas Tech.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but you know what, guys? I think he's going to beat it at the Ocho. I wouldn't be surprised, Johnny, if he's in, considering Texas Tech has never been this high.

Speaker 11 Texas Tech has not even been on our radar. Even when they had Mahomes, they were fun to watch because Mahomes might throw for $700.
But

Speaker 12 Crabtree and Graham Harrell is the last time we've seen them like this. And one thing about the Heisman as well is they're okay with bringing five or six guys who are deserving of the award.

Speaker 12 And I believe that his story is good enough if he continues to play the way he does to get him deserving to be in New York.

Speaker 11 Well, he has the best story. Marcel Reed.

Speaker 12 I don't think Jeremiah Smith will get an invite to the Heisman. I think he'll win the Balikikoff.

Speaker 13 I think

Speaker 12 our boy from Texas Tech will win the Benarik or whatever it is for the best.

Speaker 11 He definitely wins the Buckers.

Speaker 13 Absolutely. So

Speaker 11 yeah, the Bucas and the Nagurski.

Speaker 11 Hold up.

Speaker 11 What's the other?

Speaker 11 The other defensive player. It was Chuck McNerick.

Speaker 11 You had the Bucas. He's winning that.

Speaker 12 The Nagurski or what, isn't it?

Speaker 11 Yeah, Nagur. Yeah.

Speaker 12 I don't know. I don't like the defensive skills.
He'll probably win that. Oh, that shit trash.

Speaker 12 I don't like the defensive side of the ball. That shit trash.

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Speaker 11 3130, scoring 31 unanswered points to stay

Speaker 11 unbeaten and

Speaker 11 keep their playoff college football playoff hopes alive. So Johnny Manzal, thanks for joining us tonight.
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All right, we got a very special guest joining us running for a career high. 224 yards.
Three touchdowns today against Florida.

Speaker 11 He broke old Miss single season rushing touchdown record with his 17th touchdown today. He broke a record by 16 held by Quinshawn Jutkins here he is Kiwan Lacey Kiwan how you doing bro

Speaker 13 where you at what were you at boy man I'm doing amazing bro I'm in the car I'm waiting on my family man to get in the house okay okay okay man a hell of a hell of a game today man hell of a game congratulations on everything too boy nah man thank y'all man it's an honor talking to y'all yeah most definitely i appreciate it bro they needed all them yards because florida gave you everything it gave y'all everything y'all could handle it was like i was like well damn old miss what y'all going to do?

Speaker 11 And they just kept giving you the rock and you just kept running.

Speaker 13 Sure, it was definitely a dog fight, man. They came out there to compete.
Yeah. Hey, when the game is going on, do they let you know how many yards you have?

Speaker 13 Did you realize how many yards you had? I mean, I can see it on like the jumbo trons and stuff like that. But I try to stay focused on the game and just check everything after the game.

Speaker 13 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 11 I know

Speaker 11 what I would try to do is try to get that one big one. I was like, okay, I got a 50-yarder.
So now, now,

Speaker 11 hey, so you get that one big run. You like, ooh, now I can really do something.
I can easily get 100, 150, 200. You go for 224 today.

Speaker 11 So, so

Speaker 11 how did you feel going into today? Did you know, like, man, today feel like a good day? Could you tell from practice?

Speaker 11 Could you tell the way you felt this morning that you was going to have this type of day?

Speaker 13 You know, I kind of felt it, you know, going throughout the week, you know, I just, you know, was dialed in, preparating, getting right.

Speaker 13 My body felt good throughout the week there and practicing everything. And, you know, the energy was just right, you know, coming down to walking champs, you know, body's feeling good, vibes good.

Speaker 13 And yeah, came out there and executed.

Speaker 11 How you feel now? I mean, hey, 31 carries was a lot of carries,

Speaker 11 a longer 59, but that's a lot. That's a lot.
That's a lot of hits. That's a lot of broken tackles.
How you feel right now? And when will the soreness set in?

Speaker 11 Will you feel like, okay, I got to get some treatment tomorrow. I got to go get in the cold tub, sit in the sauna.
So how you feel right now? And what's your body going to feel like tomorrow?

Speaker 13 I done had some worst games where my body was banged up same night, but I'm gonna probably feel it tomorrow.

Speaker 11 So, what you doing with the fam? What you doing with the family? Y'all going out to y'all went out to eat? You had celebration? What you

Speaker 13 got some surprise for me when I get into the house? So, we're gonna see what they're talking about. I've done seen the little balloons already, so

Speaker 11 yeah, I'm gonna say, How you

Speaker 11 surprise if you already know what's in there? It can't be the surprise if you don't. A surprise is that you don't need no home i know okay okay

Speaker 11 oh okay stay late

Speaker 11 oh okay so now you're gonna go in there like oh my god oh thank you you're like you don't know what's going on

Speaker 13 hey when hey you i'm sure you you obviously i know a dream of yours is to make it to the nfl when you look at the running backs in today's nfl is there anyone that you compare your your running style to or somebody that you study that you enjoy watching that's playing in today's game uh most definitely i like gibbs for sure.

Speaker 13 He's one of my favorite running backs to watch. Nice, yeah, he'd probably be my most favorite just to his explosiveness, and he can just, you know, do anything on the field.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, he's nice. Well,

Speaker 11 hey, keep one, you got that kind of you got them kind of pants. I mean, he got them out there.
I mean, he got that, he got that jackpack. I'm trying to get right, man.

Speaker 11 I'm gonna catch him. I like it, I like it,

Speaker 11 but but you look like you up a little bit bigger than he is. Like, like, he like 200, maybe a little less.
How about your weight?

Speaker 13 Like 200 on a good day

Speaker 11 oh 200 on a good day okay so okay okay so when you go to the combine what can we expect we expect 4-3 four 4-4 4-3 you know it's gonna be it's gonna be under 4-4 for sure okay

Speaker 11 we're gonna be under 4-4

Speaker 11 so let me ask you this what's your pitch how you okay

Speaker 11 President, alumni, boosters, they come to you and it's a key one.

Speaker 11 We want you to go make a pitch to make sure Lane stays at Ole Miss.

Speaker 11 What you going to tell you, Cookie?

Speaker 13 I'm going to tell him.

Speaker 11 I think he's going to stay regardless, man. He love you here.

Speaker 13 We all love you here.

Speaker 11 I don't see.

Speaker 11 I get influenced, but.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So after a ball game, what's a typical night? You have your family in town. How often do your family come? Do they come to all the home games? How often do your family come?

Speaker 13 I'm speaking to most of of the games for the most part, but I got an older brother, he's in Juko back in Texas, so they just don't flip-flop around. Okay, see what fitness?

Speaker 13 He plays safety there. They're going into the uh,

Speaker 13 they just won, so they're going to the championship next week. Oh, that's dope.
That's dope. What is it? What was it? Okay,

Speaker 13 strong safety and free safety. Okay, that's loud.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 11 so you, you try, you tried to, you tried to get old miss to bring him in next year?

Speaker 13 We're going to be together real soon.

Speaker 13 I like it.

Speaker 11 Y'all gonna be together together real soon i like it okay that's what's up i i like that so where were you where you originally from in toler texas but i grew up all around dallas

Speaker 13 uh and i went to school in uh lancaster that's close to like dunkerville de soda okay yes sir okay

Speaker 11 i'm how you how you get how they let you get out of texas i don't know they ain't even offer me

Speaker 13 they didn't offer you nothing smu tcu but i ain't never really had uh texas so right

Speaker 11 So you have Texas, Texas, A ⁇ M?

Speaker 11 Texas A ⁇ M for sure, but you know.

Speaker 11 You want to get out of here. You want to get out of Texas.

Speaker 13 They just had their running backs already on the board, I guess.

Speaker 11 Right.

Speaker 13 Man, for me.

Speaker 11 Okay. Well, it looks like you made the right decision.

Speaker 11 Your team is 10-1, number seven in the country. Great chance.
You got one game. Now, you know, the Egg Bowl.
You know, Mississippi State is going to try to ruin y'all parade. Y'all got a parade.

Speaker 11 They're going to try to rain on it. They're going to try to snow on it.
They're going to try to hell on it. They're going to have a big old storm coming through.
They tried to mess your parade up.

Speaker 11 How do you make sure you guys stay focused and don't let Mississippi State ruin you guys'

Speaker 11 ruin you guys'?

Speaker 13 I'm just coming with the right mentality. You know, we got a bye week, so just get take care of our bodies.

Speaker 13 Then when we get back, just, you know, everybody's just dialing in, having the right mindset, just go one and no. And, you know, they're going to try to get a best.
So we just got to come out there.

Speaker 13 you know dominate execute dude we always do how long y'all y'all on the bye week uh yeah we got a bye week after this week. Yeah, so after this,

Speaker 11 oh, you about to act a fool.

Speaker 11 You like, hey, you would tell your family, go home, head on, go home. I gotta act a fool.
Y'all see the game.

Speaker 13 That's a good one.

Speaker 13 That leads me into my next question. If you're on a bye week, what do you like to do outside of football?

Speaker 13 Like, obviously, when you take a bye week, I mean, for me, when we have a bye week, I literally take a it's literally a bye. I don't want to see a do or nothing having to do with football.

Speaker 13 But what you like to do outside of the game?

Speaker 13 Really, I just like to eat good and just chill, you know, especially like during a bite week, I just take care of my body.

Speaker 13 Like, our last bite week, I went to LA to uh meet my agent, Brian Miller, and Steel, and I just did a whole bunch of recovery and just ate good, you know, gained a couple pounds.

Speaker 13 There, you go, there you go.

Speaker 11 Hey,

Speaker 11 that so if I were, if Ocho and I were to come down there, what are we gonna need to wait?

Speaker 13 All right, man, I got a couple spots for y'all

Speaker 11 where they got soul food, what they got, neck bone, oxtail, fried catfish. What they got?

Speaker 13 Everything down here. It just depends on what y'all want to eat.
McDonald's? Ain't nothing, but

Speaker 11 what you go? Tell us what you go eat. Man, ain't nobody going no down in Mississippi to go eat no McDonald's.
You can get McDonald's anyway.

Speaker 13 I go to a couple places on the square. I like Bag Nine, and it's a barbecue place that's real good.

Speaker 13 It's whatever y'all need, man.

Speaker 11 Oh, so the back nine, so what they got, so when you go get the, we're gonna get the ribs, we're gonna get the rib tips, we're gonna get mac and cheese, we're gonna get they got cornbread, right?

Speaker 11 Oh, okay. What you want, oh Joe? I like, I like, uh, I like the poke ribs, I like mac and cheese, um,

Speaker 13 baked beans, they got baked beans, yeah, it's Mississippi, they got everything, Mississippi, man.

Speaker 11 Hey, hey, hey, man, don't be taking us to get no hog chillers, hog mode now. I want to be a bad man.

Speaker 13 Matter of fact, hey, we're going to Mississippi. Hey, yup, they got strip clubs.

Speaker 13 No, we ain't got no strip clubs. No.
Nah, this straight, straight ball out here.

Speaker 11 See, that's how you stay focused, Kiwan.

Speaker 11 Don't let him try to get you up to pass.

Speaker 13 If I'm going to go away to Mississippi, I'm going to want to see, you know, some.

Speaker 11 Yeah,

Speaker 11 I don't really think that's the place to go if that's what you're trying to see. My bad.
Go to Miami or something.

Speaker 11 Yeah, there you go. You're going to Houston, go to Miami, go to Atlanta.

Speaker 13 I mean, I'm just thinking about when I was in college, sometimes I needed to take a break, I needed to see something different, you know, to give myself a reset, a mental reset.

Speaker 11 Bro, you went to Langston,

Speaker 11 you went to Langston, Oklahoma.

Speaker 13 We had a strip club.

Speaker 13 Hey, no, it was a personal strip club. Like, we made it,

Speaker 11 man.

Speaker 13 Oxford really is like a low-key, you know, where you just lock in and focus on what you want to do.

Speaker 11 Yeah, just lock in. You try to lock in, don't you?

Speaker 13 Whatever, man. All right.
Oxford,

Speaker 11 Hey, Quad, congratulations on the game. Congratulations on breaking the touchdown Russia record.

Speaker 11 Uh, stay healthy, enjoy this bye week, and hey, lock in because you know, Mississippi State, you know, they tried to ruin y'all.

Speaker 13 Appreciate y'all for having me, man. It was an honor talking to y'all.
Most definitely.

Speaker 11 Thank you, man. Tell the family we said hello.

Speaker 11 All right, now appreciate you, bro.

Speaker 11 Oh, Joe, the NFL has fined Detroit Lions wide receiver Amon Ross St. Brown $12,172 for smacking the helmet of Washington commanders defensive tackle Deron Payne.

Speaker 11 Payne earned an ejection from Washington 44-22 defeat to the Lions and serve a one-game suspension for throwing a punch at St. Brown.
He shared a video Tuesday on social media that showed St.

Speaker 11 Brown using an open hand to strike him in the face mask. Immediately after the game, St.

Speaker 11 Brown said he and Payne had gotten into a little scuffle and exchanged word preceding the moment when Payne punched him.

Speaker 11 The three-time Pro Bowler admitted the mention that he made contact with the Lions helmet. Ocho, are you surprised that the NFL

Speaker 11 finds you? I'm not surprised.

Speaker 13 I'm this NFL. You know, they're not going to miss a chance to find you, especially now that the footage has come out and Deron Payne has shown that Amon Ra did something to him and hit him first.

Speaker 13 So listen,

Speaker 13 the playing field is now even. Both have been punished.

Speaker 11 No, I lost more money than 12. How much do you think Deron Payne, how much did Deron Payne lose?

Speaker 13 How much he lost?

Speaker 13 It wasn't that much.

Speaker 11 Probably a quarter of a million.

Speaker 13 They'd give him half of that back.

Speaker 11 How are you going to appeal? He's out. The suspension was upheld.

Speaker 13 They get back to him.

Speaker 13 Hey, but you know, you know, your coach always tells you, they always see the second person who last man

Speaker 13 they always see the second person who throw a punch every time. 1.1 million.
Oh, wait, yeah.

Speaker 11 oh joe

Speaker 11 he lost the game check 1.1 million he'll get he'll get it back

Speaker 11 he makes 19.5 so his game check is 1.1 he'll get it back huh

Speaker 13 another get it back how he gonna hear you don't have to think of something hey let me tell you something you want you talk about that one point you know how much i lost in fines

Speaker 11 You ain't lost no 1.1 and no one. I don't believe you lost 1.1 total.
You might have lost some money, but 1.1

Speaker 13 I celebrated for 11 years straight. What you mean I ain't lost 1.1?

Speaker 11 Oh, Joe, them fires cost you 25,000. Do you know how many tough fires you got to celebrate to get 1.1 million?

Speaker 11 We looking. I guarantee you ain't get fired 500,000.

Speaker 7 Hold on.

Speaker 13 I ain't get fine.

Speaker 13 Do you really

Speaker 13 realize I did you something every game for a decade straight and didn't stop? What do you mean? Come on, man.

Speaker 11 How much do you think you got fine, don't you?

Speaker 11 If you had to guess, you think it's more than that?

Speaker 13 Absolutely.

Speaker 13 Absolutely. And listen, and did not care.

Speaker 13 Didn't care. Hey, you know what's funny, when I think about it, too?

Speaker 13 You know why they fine you?

Speaker 13 You know why they take your money? Because it's the one thing that they know they can control us by doing. You hear me? $115,000 that they claim to be aspired to.

Speaker 11 They say you was fined $115,000.

Speaker 11 They said you was fined $30,000 for putting on a mock s umbrella, $40,000 for the Hall of Fame jacket.

Speaker 11 Other stunts, you didn't get, you got fined, what, $10,000 for the pylon. The golf club, they didn't say how much you got fined for that.

Speaker 13 Way, way more than that. Because

Speaker 13 they missing a lot of stuff.

Speaker 13 The sombrero poncho, me grabbing the goddamn camera,

Speaker 13 the bribery with the dollar bill from the referee.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 13 God damn it. The sign.

Speaker 13 Remember Ed? Ed Lover? Not Ed. It is Ed Lover, right? From New York?

Speaker 13 I pulled out the sign. Remember when, come on, son.
Remember when that was really big?

Speaker 13 I pulled out the come on sign, the cardboard.

Speaker 13 That cost me $20,000.

Speaker 13 Tweeting on the sideline, that cost me $25,000, I think maybe $50,000. I tweeted on the sideline.
Like,

Speaker 13 it's so much stuff.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 11 think about that. How many fines you got to get to get up to a million?

Speaker 7 A lot.

Speaker 11 That's a lot of money.

Speaker 11 In one fail swoop.

Speaker 11 Because just imagine. Because when you first started playing, you wasn't making a million a year.
So just imagine if they took a million dollars in one swoop.

Speaker 13 You know what's funny? That the money's changed now. So it's much different now as opposed to.

Speaker 11 So let's just say you came in the league, you're probably making 300 a year.

Speaker 11 And they say, you know what, Ocho?

Speaker 11 We're going to take 75 of that.

Speaker 11 They're like, hold on. I'm making 300.
You take 75? So that leaves me 220.

Speaker 11 You know what's funny?

Speaker 13 Is people say, oh, man, you were just giving away money. Oh, man, what you doing? Man, I done got that money.
I got fine. I done got that back tenfold now.

Speaker 13 I don't think people understand.

Speaker 13 That was setting up for long term.

Speaker 13 And people wouldn't understand it. I see people in the chat laughing.
Oh, he dumped. They still don't get it.
They still don't see the method behind that. They don't even see the program.

Speaker 13 How could you not see what I was doing? Uncle I ain't played football in 15, what, 14? How many years has it been? 14?

Speaker 11 But I don't know know when you retired you retired after i retired in 04 so you had to retire what 2011 2012 how many years it's been i ain't good at math

Speaker 11 that'll be that'll be 14 damn long has been a long time 14 seasons

Speaker 13 hey that that that that name is still just as strong as it was in 2005 you hear me yeah

Speaker 13 just as hey just as strong as it was in 2005 i ain't caught nan ball

Speaker 11 y'all y'all they but they don't get yeah, I look.

Speaker 11 I just like I said,

Speaker 11 I don't believe the NFL would have fine. I mean, the fine just coming out now.
So, and this was the part that Amin Ra left out. He said they had some words.

Speaker 11 He ain't mentioned nothing about he had slapped him. He ain't mentioned nothing about that.
He had slapped that man upside his face mask, upside his helmet.

Speaker 11 He said we got into a little scuffle and we exchanged words, but I ain't say anything crazy. That's what he said, Ocho.
We took him at his word because all we saw was

Speaker 11 Payne slap him. Ken Law said, nah, he hit him first.
I was like, man, Ken Law, you lying.

Speaker 11 And I definitely, and Deron Payne, obviously, he did not speak. So with that being said, so we just, you know, we could just go by what the footage was.

Speaker 11 Then when he showed me the footage, I was like, man, is this AI? Like, nah, I ain't no damn AI.

Speaker 11 And, but I, you know, look, I think this is like, just, man, just keep, just keep your hands to yourself. Just keep your hands to yourself.

Speaker 11 And then, everybody, everybody, look, I understand, you know, words are going to be said. As long as don't let anybody think crazy.

Speaker 11 You're talking crazy about somebody's wife or somebody's kids or something. But, hey, we're just going to keep our hands to ourselves.
We all grown out here. We all grown.

Speaker 11 You ain't got no kids my age, so you ain't going to be putting your hands on me. So, but

Speaker 11 I don't think that does anything for Deron Payne. He, uh, Deron Payne, considering I just lost a million dollars.

Speaker 11 A million, Ocho. That's what he's thinking.
So I'm sorry, Payne man. Uh, like I said,

Speaker 13 you're gonna be all right. Yeah, hey, matter of fact, hey, you know what? Hey, what I got, hey, I got a text today.
Hold on, let me see if you can see this.

Speaker 13 Hey, it was dope. Hold on.

Speaker 13 Hey, make sure I cover it.

Speaker 13 You can see who that is.

Speaker 11 I can't see it.

Speaker 11 Send it to me.

Speaker 13 But anyway,

Speaker 13 Smitty. Smitty text me, right?

Speaker 11 You talking about Steve Spiller? I see Smitty over in Philly. Yeah, Devontante.
Oh, Devontae.

Speaker 13 He sent me a video, right? So I'm looking, I'm thinking it's him running routes. And I'm looking at the footage.
And I text him back, I say, man, I can't see that, man. That shit blurry as hell.

Speaker 13 He said, yeah, because I'm watching your old ass clips.

Speaker 13 He said, he's sitting there watching. um

Speaker 13 he watching some film of some of the routes i'm assuming the route concepts that they have and the game plan for for for the game tomorrow he's watching some old clips right um hey the footage dog is it make me feel so old because you can you can barely see the footage of the other one-on-ones and the routes i'm running thought it was crazy i'm so like tell them to send it to you high death or something but hey that yeah well they have to they would have to they would have to burn it and put it on a cd or put it on a format that now that's compatible to what we got.

Speaker 11 Because a lot of stuff, Ocho, I had some of the stuff that I had changed over, had to get it from BCR. Because when I first started, we had BCR.
And then

Speaker 11 they graduated to the CD.

Speaker 11 So some of the stuff that I had to, I would literally have to get burned, like old footage, old game tapes, stuff, I would literally have to get burned to a CD. So yeah.

Speaker 13 That was dope. Out the blue.
Out the blue. I'm sitting here watching Texas.
I'm watching Texas and the Texas George game. All of a sudden, a message come through, and he didn't even say who it was.

Speaker 13 It's just the video. I'm like, what the hell? What? What you watching? I'm like, who is that? He said, man, fool, that's you I'm watching.

Speaker 13 So the fact that the fact that he's just sitting there watching film man

Speaker 13 that was dope to me. That was dope.
But there's so many other, you know, people and players he could be watching before they play the Lions tomorrow. And so if Smitty had a goddamn 200-yard day,

Speaker 13 it's because

Speaker 13 it's because of me.

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Speaker 11 The Miami Dolphins star wide receiver Tyreek Hill made an unusual update to his Instagram profile on Friday. He'll change his Instagram bio to to unemployed.

Speaker 11 CVS Sports Jonathan Jones reported October the 4th that the Dolphins were expected to release Hill before the start of the next league year, which is March of 26.

Speaker 11 The eight-time Pro Bowl is currently recovering from season-ending knee surgery and has one season left on a three-year $90 million contract that he signed in August of 24.

Speaker 11 Some think Hill could be channeling former Dallas Maverick GM Nico Hill, who similarly updated his Instagram bio to unemployed after the team relieved him of his duties on Tuesday. Yeah.
Ojo,

Speaker 11 the Dolphins will probably

Speaker 11 be happy to trade Tyreek next season, but

Speaker 11 I don't think you're going to be able to get because they know he's coming off an injury. They know you're probably going to release him.

Speaker 11 That's why I was under the impression that they were going to trade him. Before the deadline, but once he's hurt that nigga.

Speaker 13 Listen,

Speaker 13 even if it wasn't before the deadline, I don't think they would let him go, huh? I still don't think they would let him go.

Speaker 13 I just don't. I think they want to keep everybody in-house and

Speaker 13 the pieces that you would need.

Speaker 13 Listen, if they didn't want to let Jalen Waddle go,

Speaker 13 if they weren't able to get what they wanted for Jalen Waddell, they definitely won't get what they wanted for Tyreek Hill. They definitely weren't.
So, if anything was going to happen,

Speaker 11 but Buffalo wanted Buffalo wanted it. I don't want to trade Jalen Waddell.
I don't want to trade Jalen Waddle to the Bills.

Speaker 13 If you're trying to clean the house, you clean the house.

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 11 So let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument.

Speaker 11 You think Cincinnati trade T. Higgins to a Baltimore or Pittsburgh.

Speaker 11 Why not?

Speaker 13 Are you trying to improve your team or not?

Speaker 13 So why are you worried about it? Hold on. If you're trying to improve your team and you're getting what you want, the value you want for the player, why do you care where he's going?

Speaker 11 Because I don't want to see him twice a year. You're not valuing him that much.

Speaker 13 He wouldn't let him go in the first place.

Speaker 11 Ocho, because

Speaker 11 I can't get the value out of him because I don't have the pieces. I don't have Joe Burrow throwing to him.
If I have a Joe Burrow hell, yeah, I keep it.

Speaker 13 I keep moving. I like it.
Hey, when you put it like that, I understand. I understand.

Speaker 11 All right. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I just can't use it.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 look.

Speaker 11 I mean, there are some things that we kind of saw. Look, it has not been the same in Miami since what transpired.

Speaker 11 And it kind of got off to a rough start at the beginning of last year at the beginning of last year Ocho you remember only when the first game of the season

Speaker 11 running with the police the last game of the season they he wouldn't go back into the ball game so that we kind of saw where this thing was headed I thought they were gonna move him this offseason right I really did based on I said because it's never gonna be the same in that locker room given what has transpired with him not

Speaker 11 they that that that that you know you see a lot of guys Kalaus Campbell start his car and Jonu Smith starting his car they can support that they can get behind you because they're like, Okay, the guy was wrong.

Speaker 11 But when you won't go back into the game, because you're losing frustrated, not only losing, but they couldn't get him the ball, frustrated.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I understand. I totally understand, but I don't think I don't think Tyreek will be here.
I think it's uh, what next year he has a 56 million dollar cap hit, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 11 No, he has something like that.

Speaker 11 He's gonna either get released. I don't, you can't train him because he's injured.
Ain't nobody gonna give you a chance to get it.

Speaker 13 He might be injured, right? He might be injured, but understanding Tyreek, knowing Tyreek, the way he trains, obviously, I train with him sometimes in the offseason.

Speaker 13 I'm knowing that he's going to get back.

Speaker 13 Even with him, a player of his caliber, with his speed, him cutting off injury, even if he's not as fast as he was before he got hurt, he's still going to be faster than everybody else.

Speaker 13 Still, even if he loses a step, his losing a step is still faster than everybody else. So

Speaker 13 he's going to be all right for teams that are going to look at it like, huh?

Speaker 11 Are we sure? Talk to him. Let me ask you a question.
You got a team. You're the general manager.

Speaker 13 Am I taking a chance on him? So fuck. Yes.
I'm almost there. Sorry.

Speaker 11 At how much a chance? You taking a $30 million chance? A $25 million chance? How big a chance? A $30 million chance.

Speaker 13 Absolutely.

Speaker 13 You're taking it. Well, Chewy in our mind.

Speaker 13 We're still talking about the most explosive.

Speaker 11 I don't give a damn who we're talking about. I'm not paying no wide receiver, no $30 million

Speaker 11 coming off a three-ligam surgery. Oh, hey,

Speaker 13 that what i am what do we talk about i'm not i don't care who it is i don't care what receiver listen i know and hold on hold on hold on it's especially depending on the team especially especially depending on the quarterback i have

Speaker 13 adding adding that kind of piece to adding that kind of piece to my puzzle offensively knowing what he can do the mismatches that he can create No, we knew what he could do.

Speaker 13 Are we sure he's going to be able to get him out already because he had Ace here?

Speaker 11 Oh, no, I'm not saying that, OJ.

Speaker 11 whoa, whoa. See, you based it on everything, saying, Well, look what Adrian Peterson did.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 how many guys have had knee surgery, have come back, and it ain't been Adrian Peterson? So, what if he comes back instead of being Adrian Peterson, he's Trayvon Diggs?

Speaker 13 I don't, I don't like that, I don't like that comparison.

Speaker 13 I just don't like the comparison. I just don't.
For some reason,

Speaker 11 I gotta be honest.

Speaker 13 I'm just being honest. Listen, also things.

Speaker 13 Build,

Speaker 13 not as tall, a little bit more compact.

Speaker 13 I feel that

Speaker 11 his recovery.

Speaker 11 Which are going to require more

Speaker 11 torque on that knee because he's so fast, because getting in and out of those breaks, that's more torque. That's more down centrifugal force.

Speaker 11 Go ahead, keep on going, keep going.

Speaker 13 Everybody built different. Everybody recovers different.

Speaker 11 I'm not saying he's not going to be all right, but I'm not paying $30 million to see if he's going to be all right. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 11 Yes, I would take a chance, but the chance is going to have to be in my wheelhouse. What would be your wheelchair?

Speaker 13 What would your wheelhouse be?

Speaker 11 I'll give it, I'll get,

Speaker 11 it's going to be an incentive-based contract.

Speaker 13 Nigga, please. I mean, oh, my bad.
Excuse me. Hell no.

Speaker 11 That's okay. Hell no.

Speaker 13 Nigga, we talk about Tyreek Cheetah Hill incentive-based.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm talking about Tyreek Cheetah Hill coming out for three ligaments, three legs. I wouldn't care

Speaker 13 got both legs decapitated.

Speaker 11 I wouldn't care, man.

Speaker 13 I'm giving you this 25, 30.

Speaker 13 Listen, injuries is a part of the game.

Speaker 13 I ain't gonna make you suffer that goddamn much. Now, I still, listen, I still want you to be able to be happy.
I want you to be happy, and I want the best you and the best version of you I can get.

Speaker 13 You know, incentivize, absolutely not. I'm not going to disrespect you like that.

Speaker 11 No, Ocho,

Speaker 11 I think the thing is,

Speaker 11 how much did the Rams pay Devontae?

Speaker 11 Was it like 20 million a year?

Speaker 13 Hey, too dynamic, man. Too dynamic.
And understanding what he can do somewhere else.

Speaker 11 Now, think about this here. Devontae, Devontae Adams.
22. 22 million.
They gave Devontae 22 with no injury history. Okay.

Speaker 11 Two year 44. And you said we're going to after three ligaments, we're going to give Tyreek 30 million a year.

Speaker 7 I like that.

Speaker 13 How old is Tyreek?

Speaker 11 He should be 30, 30, 31?

Speaker 11 31. 31.
How old, Devontae? 32. Devontae 32.

Speaker 13 All right, 25. That's my best offer.

Speaker 13 Hey, 25, that's my best offer. I I ain't going no, hey, listen, I ain't going no lower than that.

Speaker 13 I'm not going no lower than that.

Speaker 13 And matter of fact,

Speaker 13 hey, Drew's, I mean, Tyreek's agent, Drew, Drew Rosenhaus. Huh? I call Drew Shark.
I think the movie, Jerry Maguire,

Speaker 13 what was the name of the movie? The movie wasn't Jerry McGuire, right?

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 that's Drew Rosenhouse. He's going to get everything.

Speaker 13 He's going to get everything. You know,

Speaker 13 he doesn't even have to manipulate. We talk about Tyreek Hill, you know, when he comes back, what's gonna happen is this is the great thing about social media.

Speaker 13 This is the great thing about having social media. When he gets back running and he's able to post the videos and use that as reference, and Drew can use it as leverage, look, look where he's back.

Speaker 13 When he gets on that goddamn track and clocks another 10-1 in 100 coming off to that same three, three ligament surgery you're talking about,

Speaker 11 do they stop? Do they stop and start and track?

Speaker 13 We talk about showing the speed.

Speaker 11 I know we got speed in live, but I want to see him run the speed cuts.

Speaker 13 We're going to film all that. We're going to make sure we film all that.
We're going to make sure we film all that. And obviously, what's going to happen is you want to put the proof.

Speaker 11 Yeah, we're going to film all that.

Speaker 13 What you want to do is you want to show proof that you're okay.

Speaker 13 And when you show the proof that you're okay and you put it on social media and the world can see it, boom. Now everybody in their mama going to be clamoring.

Speaker 13 Well, hell, he done bounced back from that search.

Speaker 11 might be able to do something. I might be able to do something about somewhere between

Speaker 13 15.

Speaker 13 15, 18, what? To who? To Tyreek?

Speaker 13 Man, I'll block your damn number, man. You play with us like that, man.

Speaker 13 Hey, hey, hang on.

Speaker 13 Hey, I hang up on you so fast.

Speaker 13 Hello?

Speaker 13 How you doing? How you doing? Yeah, how much you talking?

Speaker 13 How much you talking?

Speaker 13 Just say the number.

Speaker 11 I'm looking like, I'm thinking I can get you that 15 with some incentives I can get you to about 25

Speaker 13 incentive base nah we don't do that hey but but let me tell you let me tell you what man me and my client we're gonna sit down and talk about it and we'll call you back all right bet all right yeah and then when I hang up I'm gonna block that number don't don't even play with us like that we got we got we got we got 30 other teams

Speaker 13 30 other teams that can use our services that's not gonna play with us like that

Speaker 11 what teams?

Speaker 11 Okay, you go to Carolina.

Speaker 11 What you gonna do in Carolina?

Speaker 13 With Bryce Young?

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 13 But do you not see what we're doing without a Tyreek Hill? And you add a Tyreek Hill to that offense over there in Carolina with T-Mac?

Speaker 13 Huh? Hunter Winfro, Jimmy Hoard.

Speaker 11 I saw that.

Speaker 13 Huh?

Speaker 13 Example.

Speaker 11 All that.

Speaker 13 Do you really want to do that?

Speaker 13 Because the NFC

Speaker 13 will go through Charlotte. If we do that, don't play that game.
Don't do that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Well, don't get me started.

Speaker 11 All right, Cat. Y'all remember this conversation?

Speaker 13 Don't get me started by my Panthers now.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 11 Another day, another report cutting me out of the Eagles locker room. This time it's for Diana Rossini of the Athletic.

Speaker 11 After asking people inside the Eagles building, it was explained that multiple offensive players have grown frustrated with Jalen Hurts' approach this season, particularly against zone coverage.

Speaker 11 They believe he's become too hesitant

Speaker 11 in tight windows, leaning on check downs or scramble instead of trusting what's open downfield. Philly ranks 30th in pass attempts.
The result, pass catchers have become disinterested.

Speaker 11 Any top receivers I've covered in this league have said the same thing. They spend hours getting open.
When the ball doesn't come their way, frustration follows.

Speaker 11 It's a talented offense that knows it's underperforming. This isn't just Brown venting.
The whole unit wants more. Trust more communication, and maybe a little more edge from its leader.
Oh, Joe?

Speaker 13 Hey, hey, hey, them boys frustrated, baby.

Speaker 13 Hey, listen, them boys frustrated because they're 30th in what? What? 30th in what?

Speaker 11 30th in pass attempts.

Speaker 13 Okay, 30th in pass attempts. Uncle how many teams in the NFL?

Speaker 13 Ah, 32. 32.
They're 30th in the past attempts. But the most important thing.
The most important thing that people are going to look at is that record. What's their record?

Speaker 11 82.

Speaker 13 so if if at any point so right now being 30th in pass attempts is not affecting the most important the most important stat the win column you're still getting wins but what i think is you're gonna have to evolve as the season continues to go on you're gonna have to get better in certain areas as an all 72 72 72 older my bad but like i was saying they're going to have to get better in certain areas as you play better teams as you get to the playoffs what you've done in the regular season is not going to to work they're going to have to hit be a healthy balance there hasn't been a healthy balance because not only your third than pass attempts the run game is not what it not what it once was you are being carried by your defense you're being carried by your defense so at some point i'm not sure when there's a lot of football left to be played but at some point the offense is going to have to hit

Speaker 13 the carriers low because right now the defense is doing all the carrying the defense is doing all the carrying so i i like jalen hurst i like what he does with the ball. He doesn't take many chances.

Speaker 13 Matter of fact, hell, he don't take any chances.

Speaker 11 He don't take anybody.

Speaker 11 That's why they're frustrated.

Speaker 11 Because that's why they're frustrated. Because he's not trusting to throw the ball.
It's like if it's zone coverage, if it's not wide open, you're not throwing the football instead of the trouble.

Speaker 13 Especially with those zone coverages. When it comes to those zone coverages, he has to have...

Speaker 13 unbelievable anticipatory skills and really rely and trusting receivers to be in the right place every time to run through those zones and being able to put them there before you come out your break.

Speaker 13 That ball got to be gone. It got to be going.
And maybe that's just not who he is. Maybe that's not who he is.
Maybe it's not.

Speaker 13 Because at this point in juncture in your career, if you're not doing it now, you probably never will.

Speaker 11 It is going to be hard for the simple fact. I mean, he grew up, he played in Nick Sabin.
And the one thing Nick Sabins was don't turn the ball over.

Speaker 11 And maybe he's become overly

Speaker 11 because what do we say about what we always say about Jalen Hurts? Yes. He takes care of the football.
He does not put the ball in harm's way.

Speaker 11 Well, in order to be prolific as an offense of throwing the football, you just have to put the ball in harm's way sometimes. You just do.

Speaker 11 You just do, Ocho.

Speaker 11 Sometimes to get to the other side, you got to cross dangerous waters.

Speaker 11 Yeah. You just do, Ocho.
You just do.

Speaker 11 And so, you know, look, I.

Speaker 11 I've never

Speaker 11 not understood what AJ was saying. What I was saying is that when you say it publicly and you're having team success, people will look at you a certain type of way.

Speaker 11 They're not going to hear that, man, look, I want to help the offense. This offense could be so much better.
They're going to say, you just complaining. Just be content.

Speaker 11 You're making your money and you're 7-2. But that's not what they're.
And AJ is saying, look, if we were losing, that wouldn't be okay.

Speaker 11 And I know this offense can be so much more. You heard heard Smitty on the sideline just on the ball.

Speaker 13 Yeah, he did. He did.
He did. He did.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And you know what?

Speaker 13 I think they're going to be all right. I think they're going to be all right.

Speaker 13 Still, I know they're frustrated. I know Devontae is probably frustrated.
We've heard AJ, AJ and his gripes.

Speaker 11 But they got totally different personalities.

Speaker 13 Totally different personalities.

Speaker 11 But they winning, huh?

Speaker 13 They winning. And listen, I know Saquon is frustrated, but knowing who he is and knowing his character and the type of player he is, he's not one of those to come out publicly and say anything.

Speaker 13 So he's going to keep chopping. He's going to keep chopping wood.
At some point, that wood is going to break. When he's going to have that game,

Speaker 13 I don't know when, but it's going to be a big one. Hell, it might be this week.

Speaker 13 I know it's a big game against the Lions.

Speaker 11 Oh, because they're going to put the pawns on the board now.

Speaker 11 They're going to put the pawns on the board now. They play the Lions.

Speaker 13 Because you're going to look up. The goddamn Lions be up goddamn 28-0.

Speaker 13 And you see how Seattle looked last week.

Speaker 13 You see how the Rams looked last week. There's a good chance that this is the game where the Eagles' offense has to open up.

Speaker 13 Goddamn Petula, and you bet, man, listen, I don't know what playbook you've been using, but you're going to have to open that motherfucker up this week. You're going to have to open it up tomorrow.

Speaker 13 You're going to have to.

Speaker 13 Unless the Eagles' defense is playing that goddamn well, it's able to stifle

Speaker 13 Gibbs and Montgomery. And you're not, and

Speaker 13 they're able to stop J-Mo and St. Brown.
Listen, some got to give. You ain't going to be able to to stop everything.

Speaker 13 You ain't gonna be able to stop everything. So it's going to be a good game.
I'm excited, you know, for the Eagles to see what they do.

Speaker 13 To me, that might be the best game tomorrow outside of the Bengals and Steelers.

Speaker 11 And you know what you call them? It's

Speaker 11 Dan Campbell's called 50 now. So you know Dan Campbell.
Very aggressive.

Speaker 13 Hey, anytime they get crossed to 50, let's say 40 in.

Speaker 13 That's four down territory. Or the 40 in.
That's four-down territory.

Speaker 11 Especially if

Speaker 11 it's probably three yards or less. Absolutely.
Yeah, they don't. Absolutely.
T.O.

Speaker 11 says he empathizes with AJ as a receiver and has provided not so subtle hints about his frustration with the state of the offense.

Speaker 11 If you're in an offense, especially with AJ being receiver number one, you want to be involved in the offense. I don't blame him.
That's an offensive coordinator thing.

Speaker 11 I truly understand where he's coming from because you have to utilize the guy based on his skill set.

Speaker 13 I listen.

Speaker 13 That's coming from the greatest receiver of all time. You know, one of, one of,

Speaker 13 my guy. And you know how T.O.
was. He was not shy about voicing his frustrations when he's not cues correctly.
Hey, he don't play.

Speaker 13 He's going to let you know. Matter of fact, he's going to let you know on the field.
Now, I think the Eagles will be fine until we see AJ Brown

Speaker 13 pacing up and down the sideline behind Jalen Hurst like T.O. was doing Donovan McNabb back in the day you remember that

Speaker 13 that was so funny that was so funny but i i think they're going to be fine

Speaker 13 i'm not sure how much freedom jalen hurts has to go on his own script even when the players are called and being able to change stuff at the line of scrimmage based on what he sees from coverage but to me With a talent, a top five talent receiver that I have, if I had an AJ Brown and I come to the line and I see

Speaker 13 any type of man-to-man, I'm checking. I'm coming out of it.
And matter of fact, it could just be between me and him. Small hand signals, a tap of the face mask,

Speaker 13 a tap of the helmet, just to get you in rhythm, just to get you to touch the ball early. Seeing games where AJ Brown ain't touching the ball to the goddamn third and fourth quarter, man, what the?

Speaker 13 Come on, man. Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 11 It's hard. Come on, man.

Speaker 13 Come on, now. Come on, now.

Speaker 13 I understand y'all winning and everything but come on now i mean for those in the chat that have that have maybe if you play football at at any level it doesn't have to be the nfl but just being a part of the game

Speaker 13 just being just just let me know you want me you know like come on don't come on

Speaker 13 why you laughing i'm for real that's like that's like being that's like being

Speaker 11 it is it's tough though ojo it's it's it's tough it's it's look i played in a system that you know Mike was aggressive, but after we lost that game to Jacksonville in the playoffs, it was a different mindset.

Speaker 11 Now, if the game dictated, you know, hey, team, this is a team we need to score. We got to score 30.
We got to match them. Okay, I get it.

Speaker 11 But more times than not, we're going to start out running the football. We're going to start out running the football.
And

Speaker 11 y'all, I don't know why they get mad. Ocho, why they get mad at us? Man, y'all just don't like Hurts.

Speaker 11 I've just seen

Speaker 11 his quarterback. I mean, his wide receiver is frustrated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 11 I ain't catching no passes. Schmitty saying, throw the ball.
We better that. I be telling them, throw the football.
Jordan Marlama. Yeah, throw the football.

Speaker 11 Lane Johnson said, we got to be better. He said, if I say anything, I'm just going to be the 18th guy on offense that's saying something about this.
So y'all need to talk to them.

Speaker 11 All we doing is reporting it. I'm sorry, y'all don't want us to report.
I guess, you know,

Speaker 11 it shouldn't have got out. It shouldn't have got out about the meeting, and Ocho and I wouldn't have talked about the meeting that day.

Speaker 13 I got eyes on.

Speaker 13 I played the game. I played the game.
I understand. And most people just be like, oh, man, you ain't never won nothing.
I'm winning in life. I'm winning in life.
Hey, listen, I'm winning in life.

Speaker 11 Hey, listen. You are winning.

Speaker 13 So I know what it takes. It took me to throw to my best receivers for us to keep to win the games.
Okay. Listen, I played with the Bengals.

Speaker 13 I didn't have an opportunity to win. I didn't.
Okay.

Speaker 13 But that does not mean I can't talk about the frustrations that AJ Brown is having and Devontae Smith are having on the offense that I see and watch every day, despite them winning.

Speaker 13 It's going to catch up to you when you play better teams.

Speaker 13 I want them to win tomorrow, but you're going to see the example on what we're talking about and why we talk about it when you play an explosive offense like the goddamn Detroit Lions that could put up 40 goddamn points at the blink of an eye.

Speaker 11 I'm not an economist, but I know prices are rising. I know it costs more when I go to the

Speaker 11 grocery store and I buy ish, I know it costs more.

Speaker 11 I ain't go to Stanford. I ain't go to Harvard or Yale to be an economist or anything that, but I know what's going on.
Just because you didn't win, you played that position.

Speaker 11 You, of all people, should know what it's like to play the position, have a level of expectations of being receiver number one, going through a whole week of practice, getting the ball, and then come Sunday, they don't know what to do.

Speaker 13 Hold on, and to the fourth one.

Speaker 11 And who could to get two targets?

Speaker 13 And stop.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 What you want me to do?

Speaker 11 So what you want me to do,

Speaker 11 you don't allow, that's like allowing, say, you know what, Mike? Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or Eddie or Shea.

Speaker 11 Just imagine saying, Shea, we don't want you to shoot the ball into the fourth quarter until it's a crunch time. Jordan, don't shoot the ball to the fourth quarter.

Speaker 11 Kobe, don't shoot the ball to the fourth quarter. Jokic, Giannis, anybody, Luca,

Speaker 11 come on, man. Just because you don't win doesn't mean that

Speaker 11 you don't have eyes because you, of all people, should know being receiver number one, the level of frustration that AJ Brown has because he's not getting the targets and he's not being put in position to succeed.

Speaker 11 So now people look at like, man, AJ sauce, AJ washed, AJ ain't washed. AJ is not getting the opportunities because we've seen two games when they're giving AJ Brown opportunities.

Speaker 11 They've seen two games against the Rams. And we saw the other game where he had four for 120.
I forget the game it was.

Speaker 11 So the Rams,

Speaker 11 the one was the Rams.

Speaker 11 What was the last game that they ended up winning? But that's what fans try to do. Well, you didn't win nothing.
I didn't.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 I know what that guy is going through. You ain't in the locker room.
Yeah, you're right. I'm not in that locker room.
But I was in a very similar situation or locker room.

Speaker 11 And the one thing I can say about athletes, a lot of them think alike.

Speaker 11 The greater they are,

Speaker 11 I'll give you an indication of how they think.

Speaker 13 And matter of fact, not only give it a, and the funny thing about it.

Speaker 11 He had another

Speaker 11 Vikings. The Vikings is where he had that big hit.
Him and Smithy went off against the Vikings.

Speaker 11 So he knows what he can do. He knows what he's capable of.
He's a multiple-time Pro Bowl player, and he says, I'm not getting the opportunities. Now, a lot of that

Speaker 11 is the offensive coordinator calling plays, but a lot of that is that when they call plays, I need my quarterback to have the courage that it's a zone coverage to throw that Smitty and I are going to be where we say we're going to be.

Speaker 11 And for you to point that out, just because you don't win, there are a lot of guys that's on TV didn't win. And they talk about football all the time.
And they make a lot of money.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Giants rookie Cam Scatterboo showed off his screwed-up shoulder joint on live. Ocho, take a look at this.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 yeah, broken collarbone.

Speaker 13 Yeah, it's broken before. And the funny thing about once you break it once, and that thing callous up and harden up,

Speaker 13 you back strong.

Speaker 11 It's going to look like that, unless you want to have it. And I don't know if you notice, Ocho, but the file bone down, can you imagine what that feel like? I'm good.

Speaker 11 because they trolled, they told me, said, Well, it's kind of we can uh file it down. I said, You ain't filing nothing down,

Speaker 11 the only thing I won't file is toenails.

Speaker 7 Look,

Speaker 13 damn, how'd I make it pop out?

Speaker 13 Oh, mine does it. Is it this side?

Speaker 13 I think, oh, there I go.

Speaker 13 I can't get it to come up. Yeah,

Speaker 11 you uh, what'd you do? You broke your collarbone? Yeah,

Speaker 11 or you separated your shoulder

Speaker 13 wasn't much though, but I know I can move them up

Speaker 11 No, I broke my I broke mine, so mine already broke

Speaker 11 And so I gotta I gotta yeah, I gotta knock Yeah, I

Speaker 13 when I whenever I had to wear that harness whenever I had wear that

Speaker 13 oh yeah yeah but I shoot I only I only missed that I think I missed that that one game and I was right back I was right back the next week

Speaker 11 Well, you you had to wear a hardness. That was your shoulder.
You were your shoulder joint, so that might have been your AC joint

Speaker 11 because that's yours.

Speaker 11 Collarbone is like here.

Speaker 13 I don't know.

Speaker 11 I just actually top of your rib cage.

Speaker 13 If I can do, I could do something like this, and this all is pop, it popped way up here.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and uh, you put the harness on, you're all totally able to raise it so I could go back right here.

Speaker 13 I'll catch it. I was catching everything with my body,

Speaker 11 Jordan Wood's birthday gift to Cat was his mother's car from his childhood. During the summer, Carl asked if I could drive any car for a day, which one would it be?

Speaker 11 I answered, his response was, I wouldn't pick anything crazy. I just really love my mom's car she had when I was a kid.

Speaker 11 So I went on a mission these past months to find the car, shipped it across the country, got it fixed up, and was able to surprise him with it for his 30th birthday.

Speaker 13 Hey, that's dope, man. That's live.

Speaker 11 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 11 Oh,

Speaker 11 my goodness.

Speaker 11 That's a good girlfriend. That's dope, man.

Speaker 13 That's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 11 Yeah,

Speaker 11 yeah, yeah, hey, Cat.

Speaker 11 And Cat said, you know, I sat down with Cat about a year and a half ago, and, man, he spoke A.

Speaker 11 That's his best friend. He said, he said, he said,

Speaker 11 when I went through what I went through with my mom,

Speaker 11 she was there.

Speaker 11 That was the most, when I was at my absolute lowest and I didn't know where to turn, she was there. She was the person that I talked to every single day.
She was the person that was by my side.

Speaker 11 I said, Cat, well, you know what you need to do.

Speaker 11 You know what you need to do.

Speaker 11 That's amazing.

Speaker 11 Jordan,

Speaker 11 that was an unbelievable gift. I'm sure Cat really, really appreciate that because he just absolutely adored his mom.
That was his best friend. And every time

Speaker 11 she passed during COVID, with COVID,

Speaker 11 and to like to know what she was going through and him being there every day and see her

Speaker 11 further and further and further. And she finally transitioned.
Man, that's incredible. That's incredible.
Ocho, what's the best birthday gift you've ever gotten?

Speaker 13 Ooh, that's a good one, huh?

Speaker 13 God damn. Hold on, let me sit back.
Let me sit back. See, because I'm glad you asked me that.
Because, I got to think.

Speaker 13 I got to think when it comes to birthdays, those that I've dated or partners that I've been with, they understand I don't really celebrate my birthday. You hear me?

Speaker 13 I love to just say a prayer. I'm not into gatherings.
I'm not into get-togethers. I'm not into that.
I love to say a prayer and seeing another year. And after that,

Speaker 13 that's sufficient for me.

Speaker 13 You know what?

Speaker 13 The best birthday gift was a surprise, huh?

Speaker 13 Years ago,

Speaker 13 Years ago, I was with somebody years ago, and they gave, I don't want to do anything.

Speaker 13 And they lied to me and said, we're going, this is when Obama, I think Obama was in office, and maybe he had just won.

Speaker 13 And they said, we're going to a private dinner

Speaker 13 and we got a table to sit with Obama. And Michelle, I was like, oh, for real? It's like, yeah, so you got to be dressed up.
You got to be in real something, something dapping, something nice.

Speaker 13 You hear me?

Speaker 13 And so they understood that if you told me what we were doing i'd be like nah man you know i don't like to do anything for my birthday so they had to lie to me and get that's the only way to get me to go oh man we're going to have dinner with the obamas man uh boy i put on nice little jeans nice little jacket i'm ready i said well where it's at over on the beach private private um

Speaker 11 man you know damn well president obama and michelle ain't on no beach waiting on your punk on the beach the beach the beach and that's where all the all the all the rich people go though uh uh when they have stuff

Speaker 11 yeah

Speaker 13 yeah yeah yeah so that's what okay hold on that's what i'm thinking is that so we pull up we pull up

Speaker 13 and i see cameras i say okay okay they they must really be here hey um

Speaker 13 i get out the car

Speaker 13 you heard me so i get out the car the camera started taking pictures of me i'm like what y'all taking pictures of me for and some dancers came out of nowhere uh i'm not talking about no i ain't talking about no stripper i'm talking about dancers like when you go to um

Speaker 13 i thought you talked about like that i mean with the costume like if when you go like a k-star restaurant that that has um

Speaker 13 um shows or something like that they come out of nowhere and i'm like oh this is nice it's professional this is really nice and long we we walk in the building how about it's a goddamn surprise to me

Speaker 13 I walk in the building, man. Man, I see all my homeboys from Cincinnati in there.
T.O. sitting there.

Speaker 13 Just, I mean, everybody from Miami, people that I'm fluent in town. I'm like, man, what the hell? And it was a surprise party for me.

Speaker 13 And the only way to get me to go was to tell me that it was something important or something, an important event that was happening. Because one, one, ain't no way in hell.

Speaker 13 Ain't no way hell I was showing up. So that was dope.

Speaker 13 And that was,

Speaker 13 yeah, I don't want to give a table legs, but

Speaker 13 you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah

Speaker 11 I have a I have a couple Ojo. It's hard to just pinpoint one

Speaker 11 Y'all probably have seen this

Speaker 11 I take pictures with the dogs and and so sometimes it comes up but I had an ex that I used.

Speaker 13 Hey, that's a good one, huh?

Speaker 11 Man,

Speaker 9 I cry, I cry, I cry like a

Speaker 7 lot.

Speaker 13 Boy, that's a good one, boy.

Speaker 11 I cried like a baby.

Speaker 13 That's a good one.

Speaker 11 This is my most,

Speaker 11 that's probably my

Speaker 11 probably one of my most prized possessions.

Speaker 11 My brother

Speaker 11 gave me this Bible

Speaker 11 for my

Speaker 13 30.

Speaker 13 Wait, hold on, hold on. Hold that Bible up again.

Speaker 13 Well, I like that, but that's old. That's that's the Old Testament, New Testament,

Speaker 11 King James Version. King James Version.
Oh, but Bibles come with Old Testament. Oh, my bad.

Speaker 11 I ain't no.

Speaker 11 You can't get a Bible with just.

Speaker 13 Hey, that thing look, it looked kind of brand new to be that old now. Oh, you need to open it, open that thing up.

Speaker 11 uh and i had a i had a uh

Speaker 11 uh a naked get me a bible for my 30th birthday my sister carried the church uh it was in a box uh

Speaker 11 for my 30th birthday so

Speaker 7 how i'm

Speaker 11 so this bible is 22 years old the other one is 27 years old And this picture is.

Speaker 13 Hey, hold on. While you got the Bible in your hand, do me a favor real quick.

Speaker 13 Go to Proverbs 11, 25, real quick.

Speaker 13 Yeah, Proverbs 11.25. This is something that I live by.

Speaker 11 You live by,

Speaker 11 I'm not going to pay all of you.

Speaker 13 Don't worry about it, but I'm going to pay your money. Just read Proverbs 11, 25.

Speaker 11 Wait.

Speaker 13 As soon as you read this.

Speaker 13 All right. Proverbs in the middle.

Speaker 13 Yeah, you know, I was was a junior deacon. I know exactly.
I know exactly where Proverbs is at.

Speaker 11 What did you say? 11, 25.

Speaker 13 Proverbs chapter 11, verse 25. Uncle The writing on that is too small.
I only got one eye. Damn.

Speaker 11 So when you say Proverbs 11, 25, 11, what?

Speaker 11 Proverbs 11, 25.

Speaker 11 A generous man will prosper. He who refuses others will himself be refreshed.

Speaker 13 That's, hey,

Speaker 13 if you notice,

Speaker 13 every time I leave, well,

Speaker 13 I done stop doing it now because, you know,

Speaker 13 I mean, people have been using it against me.

Speaker 13 But when I tip, if you always look at anytime I ever tip, I always put Proverbs 11 25 at the top of it always

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 I was just thinking about that see so that therefore I let you know I'm a gentle I'm a generous person you're gonna get your money

Speaker 11 Just leave it on the just leave it when I see you

Speaker 13 I'm so excited for a chat chat. I'm so excited for football tomorrow, man.

Speaker 11 But I, but, but, oh, Joe, I don't know how you are, but if I get something, if somebody gives me stuff,

Speaker 11 I don't, I don't throw it up in people's face, but I've basically every gift that I've gotten right from an ex

Speaker 11 I still all of them

Speaker 13 hey, Uncle Sometimes, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 13 Sometimes you gotta let that bad mojo go.

Speaker 11 Yeah, sometimes

Speaker 13 it's

Speaker 13 not given

Speaker 13 in good sense.

Speaker 13 I'm just sometimes not given a good sense. It's only given because they received, and because they received, and okay, I've received, now I have to give.

Speaker 13 You know, and I just don't like the way that's set.

Speaker 13 So sometimes, certain things, when things don't end the way you think they should end, there's certain things you have to cleanse yourself from.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I just don't have, I'm just I'm yeah when you let go you got to you got to

Speaker 11 let go

Speaker 11 Sentimental I think sentimental is

Speaker 11 I did my sister threw him away and I got mad thank you sis thank you sis thank you I had oh Joe I had

Speaker 11 she threw him away probably about 90

Speaker 11 probably about 93 but I had every love letter every girl had written me from the time I was about fourth grade until the time I was in.

Speaker 13 Uncle, why you hold on to that stuff?

Speaker 13 Listen, when it's time.

Speaker 11 Oh, Joe, I had some other things as well.

Speaker 13 Hey, listen.

Speaker 11 She got rid of all my stuff. That wasn't hers to get rid of.

Speaker 13 When you're moving forward in life, you can't move forward in life holding on to old baggage.

Speaker 11 I don't know where the stuff is, Ocho. I just, I haven't thrown it away.
Now, maybe my sister might have thrown it away. Some of the stuff is thrown away, but like, but I kept the Bible.

Speaker 11 My sister carried the Bible better.

Speaker 13 Now, the Bible's okay, but gifts and materialistic stuff and photos and

Speaker 11 letters. So if your ex

Speaker 11 gave you a watch or a necklace, you don't have to.

Speaker 13 I don't want that. I don't want nothing that remember me of you, that remind me of you.
Absolutely not. And probably if you bought me a gift, it was with my goddamn money anyway.
Hell no.

Speaker 13 I'm not keeping nothing.

Speaker 11 No,

Speaker 13 Nathaniel.

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 11 See? Got the card.

Speaker 11 This card says, my brother gave me this card. But I'm going through this Bible.
This Bible said, like, 93. I got a call spanking C.

Speaker 11 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 It got my name on it. Devil Broncos.

Speaker 11 But no,

Speaker 11 this pain hey now listen um i mean i haven't i really i i like i said no i just pay that pain was nice i don't wear but i just make i just make sure i've never wore i've never worn anything that uh that someone has given me when i'm when i'm with someone else i i would never do that but i don't have any jewelry i don't have any jewelry nobody i mean come on oh y'all i mean nobody's buying me that we would that we would wear honestly but the the funny thing about it that there's certain i call it dainty there's certain dainty stuff that's thoughtful that people can get.

Speaker 13 The only person that has bought me jewelry is my daughter, one of my daughters. They made me a bracelet.
They made me a bracelet with all the kids' names on it. It wasn't anything expensive.

Speaker 13 You know, the little leather braces with the names and, you know, you turn them and spell the names out. That was really dope.

Speaker 13 But, man, you know, the stuff, you know, women have boreden us, and I can say this collectively, that have boreden us throughout the years, man, ain't it ain't with their money. It's with our money.

Speaker 13 You know? So whatever we get, you give it away. Because when I'm, hey, when I'm,

Speaker 11 no, no, no, no,

Speaker 11 I can honestly say, because it wasn't until I probably got into my,

Speaker 11 probably one time before I got into my 40s that someone actually brought a gift in which they didn't use my money.

Speaker 11 Prior to that, every time I had gotten a gift, a Christmas gift, a birthday gift, it was

Speaker 11 with my money.

Speaker 11 And so the reason why that picture and the Bible meant so much to me is because that was really one of the first times, that Bible was the first time that I had ever, ever, and I wasn't, but that was the first time at 30 years of age that I had actually gotten a gift that somebody gave me, you know, I'm talking about a family member that wasn't my money.

Speaker 11 And so it meant, it meant that much to me.

Speaker 11 That painting means so much because the person,

Speaker 11 he didn't, I didn't, I didn't.

Speaker 13 I think that was a real deal.

Speaker 11 and I guess from just observing me and hear me talk about my brother hear me talking about my grandmother she's like what can I do now the now the way she did it Ocho is that me and my brother obviously that's the picture of us standing when I went to the hall that picture is a picture that I have over my visor

Speaker 11 so she had to take a photo of it

Speaker 11 without me knowing

Speaker 11 and and placed it like that like me and and my brother standing there and my grandmother is over.

Speaker 11 So, yeah,

Speaker 11 that meant that very, very thoughtful.

Speaker 11 That meant the world to me. That picture.

Speaker 11 I mean,

Speaker 11 and so that's what I thought when I thought about what Jordan did for Jordan Woods, what she did for

Speaker 11 that.

Speaker 11 That's a lot of thought. That's a lot of thought.
I thought for like that sometimes

Speaker 11 I try to be

Speaker 11 You thoughtful like that oh

Speaker 11 No, you not you give up money you give money. I know you're real thoughtful.
I am I am they let me let me in

Speaker 13 just

Speaker 13 I Mean I'm in a different space now I'm in a different space. I think back on the good times, the old times,

Speaker 13 the times of staying in the field, you know,

Speaker 13 the times of cutting the grass. And I always think back and think about all the money I've spent, right?

Speaker 13 And I never, ever, ever,

Speaker 13 and this is for dudes that's spending money crazy now and leading with money, you never get a return on that investment. You get nothing at all.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 13 I think about that heavy now, especially as I'm older now, I'm like, well, God damn.

Speaker 11 You think about the money that you spent

Speaker 11 all that all you spent

Speaker 11 all that i'm saying all the money that you spent

Speaker 13 you you you get nothing back

Speaker 13 like think about it and i'm not saying it's in a bad way it just you just don't

Speaker 13 you just don't and at some point it ends and then they just go on to the next person and then they spin it you know that the cycle continues to repeat itself yeah i i don't and i get it ocho i just don't i just

Speaker 11 have to because that's the reality of it We get no return.

Speaker 11 But, Ocho, you'll make yourself sick, man.

Speaker 13 I'm good. I'm good now because I found someone.
I'm getting a return on my investment now. There's a difference.
Okay.

Speaker 11 Yeah. I'm happy for you, bro.

Speaker 7 Nothing.

Speaker 11 You know?

Speaker 13 Oh,

Speaker 13 damn, my lights went out.

Speaker 13 But anyway,

Speaker 13 oh, just now. I mean, you know, my little um, what you call these little things right here?

Speaker 13 My little, my little portable lights. So, yeah, so I'm not so dark.

Speaker 11 Well, you need spotlights.

Speaker 11 Nah, but it's, it's, you know,

Speaker 11 I think I need to be.

Speaker 11 I just get you what you want.

Speaker 13 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 11 That's what you, that's what you, that's what you do. I do.
I do.

Speaker 13 I do. I do.

Speaker 13 Oh, listen. Hey, listen.
When we good? Oh, you can. Oh, you can.

Speaker 13 Oh, you can.

Speaker 7 What?

Speaker 13 I don't play like that. But hey, when you're moving funny,

Speaker 13 and I know it ain't right,

Speaker 7 boy.

Speaker 11 But by that time, what your U-Book gave up a bunch. Not really.

Speaker 13 Nah, no, not really.

Speaker 13 I'm detailed. Hear me? I'm like Inspector Gadget.
I'm like Columbo. I'm like Kojak.

Speaker 13 I done played the game so long. Whenever you try to play something I've been playing 20 years ago, I'm like,

Speaker 13 duh, I.

Speaker 11 You wrote the handbook on that. I'm doing.

Speaker 13 I used to be the other guy, and she used to pull that move. So, how do you think you're going to pull it on me? I did this 20 years ago.
But okay, I'm finna play stupid.

Speaker 13 Let me tell you, I love playing stupid. Oh,

Speaker 13 I love it. Don't worry about it.
Boom. we can both play this game

Speaker 11 nah you in a good place i met you oh no it was great with that the fight yeah yeah yeah we were great that's my

Speaker 7 my

Speaker 13 ooh baby

Speaker 11 but i know look i i ain't trying to but but the other situation she was great she was great she was great to me also

Speaker 11 so She know,

Speaker 11 if I saw her some way, somewhere I give a hug and say, hey, you know, I miss you and keep it moving, Ocho. That's what I do.

Speaker 11 Ain't no reminiscing about anything, but I will always be respectful to your people because they will respect me.

Speaker 11 You talk about

Speaker 13 Ram.

Speaker 13 Oh, my dog.

Speaker 13 That's my dog, man. That's my dog.

Speaker 7 That's my dog. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So.

Speaker 11 All right, it's time to get you out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A. Man, why you got all them Chrome heart rings? And you won't break my...

Speaker 11 Chat, y'all see that? Hey.

Speaker 11 Chat, y'all see that man

Speaker 11 that man got all them chrome heart rings and won't break me off my money chat what y'all think about

Speaker 13 these from the vintage store

Speaker 13 you heard me

Speaker 11 my money vintage too it's been a long time since you paid me

Speaker 13 rings i was trying to be like ozzie osborne these a these cost like these cost like 15 a piece

Speaker 13 yeah these cheap look cheap

Speaker 11 I can't even get that.

Speaker 11 I can't even get nothing. Philly talk, P.A., Ocho.
I know you saw my boy Andrew Marsh today from Michigan. 12 catches, a buck 89 as a freshman.
That boy going to the league. OSU, we coming.

Speaker 11 El Prey, Ocho.

Speaker 11 Where have the top three places you visited to watch soccer match?

Speaker 13 I'm so glad you asked that.

Speaker 11 Coach Tellers helped you find the love for the game.

Speaker 13 I'm so glad you asked that.

Speaker 13 Top three places: Boca Jr.'s River, Argentina.

Speaker 13 Celtic Rangers game, unbelievable derby, okay? And obviously, my top, well,

Speaker 13 actually,

Speaker 13 El Clásico

Speaker 13 is number three.

Speaker 13 Boca Junior's River is one. Celtic Rangers, two.
El Classico, Royal Madrid, Barcelona is three.

Speaker 13 Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. No sporting event in this world tops those three.

Speaker 13 I'm not sure if anybody, I don't know how many

Speaker 13 how many people in here watch soccer or know about rivalries, but unbelievable. Those are the top three, top three places I've been.

Speaker 11 Just primetime, RIP to my cousin Kenny Easley, Seahawk Great, Hall of Fame number

Speaker 11 306, lift up up in prayer. Yes, I think Kenny was the 1985

Speaker 11 defensive player of the year.

Speaker 11 But he passed away tremendous safety

Speaker 11 for the Seahawks.

Speaker 11 Went into the hall. I think he went in.
Didn't he go in 2017, Ash? I think it was 2017. I think he went in 2017.
I don't remember off the top of my head. But

Speaker 11 he was special.

Speaker 11 Fletch,

Speaker 11 Unc Eating Communion.

Speaker 11 Hey, while you bulldoze, I used to get, hey, them saltines and that great juice.

Speaker 11 I used to have Morgan David wine. That was the wine.
Yeah, them little salt.

Speaker 11 Them crackers were a man. Hey.

Speaker 11 And the ones that didn't pass out, me and my brother just pulled them things in our hands.

Speaker 11 Tony Brown Jr., what's good, fellas? Today's my birthday.

Speaker 11 Appreciate it if you guys would shout your boy out. Much love.
Tony Brown, TBJ.

Speaker 11 Thank you, bro. Thank you for your support.
Happy birthday. Hopefully you did something fun.

Speaker 11 Hopefully, you know, you got someone special in your life or you shared it with family, friends, and loved ones.

Speaker 11 You went out, got your meal, you went someplace, played a game, you know, a top golf or something. But hopefully, you did something to realize, hey, just how special you are.

Speaker 11 God blessed you to wake up this morning and you got to see another one because you know somebody got called home. Somebody had an appointment they could not reschedule.

Speaker 11 Tyson, is Ohio State the best team in the nation? Look, I think Ohio State is really, really good. Have they been tested? No.

Speaker 11 Is there a chance that they could play and not be tested? Yes.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 we'll see. We'll see what they do against Michigan.
Michigan always gives them a dogfight. Last couple of years, Michigan have beaten them.

Speaker 11 And so it's going to be very, very interesting. But, I mean, they won a national championship last year.
They haven't lost a game this year.

Speaker 11 So, yes, I think they are the best team, but they probably the team that

Speaker 11 haven't been tested.

Speaker 11 Of the team teams that's in the top five, Ocho. They haven't had that scare game.
Taz Salim, y'all think Skip watched Vandy over Dallas this year?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 11 J-Dub Akron, Ocho, Steelers, Bingers, Revenge game. No excuses.
Belt to A, Steeler Nation.

Speaker 11 You paid that man.

Speaker 13 That sounds good because

Speaker 13 the last time we played the Steelers, we won. You know that, right?

Speaker 13 We won that game. So we're we're probably going to go into Heinz Field.
Wait a minute. It's not Heinz Field.

Speaker 11 I forgot to say that. I don't know.

Speaker 13 Matter of fact, it's Heinz Field to me. We're going into Heinz Field.
We're going to win again.

Speaker 13 We're going to win again. Burrow going to throw for about, I mean, Burrow.
Flacco gonna throw for 500.

Speaker 13 Book it.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 13 Book it.

Speaker 11 Architect Knife TV here to show some love to HBCU football. Congrats to John C.
Smith on winning the CIA championship in Albany State for winning the SIAC championship. Congratulations, guys.

Speaker 11 Congratulations, John C. Smith, the CIA and Albany State winning the SIAC to see act.
Thank you. Thank you.
Oh, matter of fact. Congratulations.

Speaker 13 I was going to say.

Speaker 11 Savannah State's in the SIAC. SIAC.

Speaker 13 And speaking of congratulations, congratulations to Florida A ⁇ M being Alabama State today. And another congratulations to

Speaker 13 one of the greatest anticipated fights in boxing today. Uncle I don't know if you saw it.

Speaker 13 Connor Ben defeated Chris Eubain Jr.

Speaker 13 That was that was a good fight. That was a really good fight.
That was their rematch.

Speaker 11 Hold on. Didn't 50 walk or Eubain Jr.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he did.
He did.

Speaker 13 Yeah, he lost. He lost.
It's tied. Now it's what they got to have.
Maybe I'm not sure if they're going to do it.

Speaker 13 They need to do a trilogy.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 11 Big dog Jayla for Night Capital Club Shea Shay. We need you to interview Oz Perlman.
Please.

Speaker 11 Who is that?

Speaker 11 Is that the mentalist? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Barely guess his number. The who?

Speaker 11 What is it again?

Speaker 13 Who is it? Huh?

Speaker 11 He is a mentalist. He be guessing what you're thinking.
Oh.

Speaker 11 child

Speaker 11 the judicial system is rigged the healthcare system is rigged and the political system is rigged how can't sports not be manipulated i love the podcast

Speaker 11 guess what

Speaker 11 you still try to get health care and if you get in trouble you're gonna have to go through that judicial system and the political system is what it is so guess what you still gonna watch football

Speaker 11 do i mean could it have been? Sure. I don't know.
I just know no one has ever asked me anything like that.

Speaker 11 And, you know, normally when people ask me who I think is going to win, I was like, hey, I think it's going to be a good game. Keep it moving.

Speaker 11 But I don't know what you want Ocho and I to do.

Speaker 11 Because guess what? You will be watching those games tomorrow. Dennis Hadley said, Ocho, can't pay $5,900, and he ain't playing Tyreek now.
Nah, Ocho, you need to break me off, though.

Speaker 11 I really appreciate you going to break bread with me and let me get that. Because I want to know what you're going to do.
Oh, yeah, okay,

Speaker 13 okay, I got you. Christmas, okay, bet.

Speaker 13 I got you. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Tino David said, Uncanocho, what's one thing y'all want to be remembered for? I appreciate y'all coming, keeping me smiling the last few weeks.

Speaker 11 Mentally, I'm not okay, but y'all helped me get through the tough times in life. You're going to be okay.

Speaker 11 Tomorrow is another day. God bless you to wake up to see another day.

Speaker 11 That's the most important gift you can get is opening your eyes and being able to put your feet on the floor and thank him for allowing you to see another day.

Speaker 11 Sunshine follows rain, Tino.

Speaker 11 It rained 40 days and 40 nights. And guess what happened on the 41st day? The sun came out, flooded the entire earth.

Speaker 11 But on the 41st day,

Speaker 11 sunshine follows rain.

Speaker 11 What do I want to be remembered for?

Speaker 11 I want to be remembered as a good father,

Speaker 11 a good son, a good brother, and a good friend. That's it.

Speaker 11 That's it.

Speaker 13 What do I want to be remembered for? Good father is definitely one. Good father is definitely one.

Speaker 13 One of those that always remain authentic. One that always remained

Speaker 13 true to himself. One that left Liberty City without really leaving,

Speaker 13 staying emerged in my upbringing and my surroundings, and

Speaker 13 being himself regardless of what room he was in. Always stayed myself.
And I just learned to play the game within the game to make sure I'm able to navigate

Speaker 13 and adapt to any room I'm in without having to change.

Speaker 11 Josiah Strong, now that you're back from Spain, Ocho, and the last time I sent you a super chat, you said, I quote, some people be lying.

Speaker 11 All I'm going to say is I'm hurt, and my mama said, don't ever call her baby a liar. But anyways, I can fix your camera.
Just let me help you, and I can show you my ability.

Speaker 13 I got, I got, I got it.

Speaker 11 The one thing I can say about my man, my land persist. Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 11 I got it. You can't give it up, Ocho.

Speaker 11 Trio Brown said all that insecurity in the locker room is why the lions gonna dogwalk them tomorrow.

Speaker 13 Listen, it won't be no insecurity. If they get dogwalked, we know why they're getting dogwalked.

Speaker 13 They're getting dogwalked because what their offense is statistically, and they finally met a team that can score at a high rate,

Speaker 13 and that's gonna be the difference in the ball game.

Speaker 11 JJ, my mom passed in 2022. UGA was a favorite team.

Speaker 11 Well, I mean, she's having a lot to be proud of because they've won two national championships in the last four years, and

Speaker 11 they got a good chance of doing something special again this year. So,

Speaker 11 sorry about your mom's passing, though. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch

Speaker 11 Georgia Bulldogs takedown

Speaker 11 Texas Longhorns by the score of 35 to 10. Big night for Stockton.

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Speaker 11 Ocho and I would like to personally thank you for your support and your continued support. Because thanks to you, this is why Nightcap has become the phenomenon that we've become.

Speaker 11 And only because of you, we will and shall continue to grow. So, thank you again for your support.

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Speaker 11 What does a house wear?

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Speaker 11 We want to thank our very special guest, Johnny Manzel, as he normally does on football, on college football Saturday, for joining us.

Speaker 11 And a very, very special guest, Kiwan Lacey, who rushed for the most touchdowns in a single season in old Miss history.

Speaker 11 He finished today with 31 carries, 224 yards, and three rushing touchdowns on the day.

Speaker 11 So we want to thank everybody that tuned in and joined us tonight. Thank you so much.
And we'll be back tomorrow after the game. Who plays tomorrow night?

Speaker 13 The Raiders, the Raiders, and somebody.

Speaker 11 Raiders, Cowboys tomorrow night? That's Monday night. That's Monday night.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think that's Monday night. Oh, it's the Lions Eagles.
Lions Eagles are tomorrow night. It should be a good one.

Speaker 11 It should be a good one. It should be a good one.
Guys, thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow after the game.
I'm Unc HeZocho.

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