Deebo & Joe - TNF REACTION: Texans UPSET Bills + Steelers-Bears predictions, Shedeur expectations

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Speaker 6 Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.

Speaker 16 Please make sure you guys like, subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing.
How you doing today, Joe? Doing good, brother Debo. Doing good, doing good, man.
Great game of football. Oh,

Speaker 16 extremely, extremely great game of football. Your type of ball.
Oh, my type of ball all day in America, baby. The Texans beat the Bills 23 to 19, man.

Speaker 16 We got to go through this one right here, man, because

Speaker 16 I just didn't see what happened happening. You feel me right there, baby?

Speaker 16 Houston get out there, buddy. And I got to break this down for you because this is plays that was just going and going.

Speaker 16 Houston get out there the first play. They gone ahead and do a pass.
You know what I'm saying? I think it was Stover. He drops the pass.
The next play, they give it to Marks. He gets seven.

Speaker 16 And then on third down, they proceed to go empty and throw the ball. For what?

Speaker 16 For what?

Speaker 16 For what?

Speaker 16 I don't get it. I don't get it.
They don't get it either. They end up hunting

Speaker 16 early. Early, baby.
Three and out on the first one. Buffalo get out there, man, and they do what Buffalo has been known

Speaker 16 for doing. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 They go ahead hitting that ball to Cooks. Cooks get that four.
What they say, that's a successful, that successful thing. You're supposed to get 40% on the first and then you get 60% on the second.

Speaker 16 Staying ahead of the sticks. Staying ahead of the sticks, man.
Allen, he going ahead on the second down. He gets pressured, though.

Speaker 16 You know, he going ahead, get it to the tight end, and he dropped that thing. It looked like...
he had stepped out of bounds to me even if he had caught it i don't think it would have counted

Speaker 16 but third down i think they get, what was it, five of the six yards they needed.

Speaker 16 And they took away what was supposed to be a legal man downfield. Are you allowed to do that? Like go down and then come back?

Speaker 16 Like that must be a thing as long as he don't release the ball before, you know. Yeah, as long as he don't let the ball go.
So obviously fourth and one, they do what they do.

Speaker 16 Quarterback gone head, Allen, big body jump over the top.

Speaker 16 Dude, he jumped over and got almost three yards. That was crazy.
Yes. That was crazy.

Speaker 16 i like that that was crazy first down they they stopped cooks though they they they stuffed him up he didn't get nothing

Speaker 16 and then i think that was the second down what cooks it was looked like it should have been what like uh like a two yard two yard loss something like that

Speaker 16 and then they went on head and blitzed Allen and he reads that thing out, throws it right into the blitz with a swing pass to johnson they go ahead get 13 for the first time

Speaker 16 like the next one the boy knox just stiffed arm what's what's zero's number man he just stiff armed him yeah ground that was a linebacker wasn't it yes it was nine yards bro just stiffed arm him something stupid

Speaker 16 third and one they get to that third and one that man cooks dude they had like nine people within five yards of the line dude i think they had the body pool.

Speaker 16 I think the other two might have been within another five yards.

Speaker 16 He broke through that thing, dude. And next thing you know, house call.
35 yards. House call.

Speaker 16 I was like, oh,

Speaker 16 this is supposed to be the number one defense.

Speaker 16 No, they, they had, like you said, they got stiff arm.

Speaker 16 That was probably their worst drive. Oh, no.
Probably worse drive. Far, dude.
No, they was far. They had to tighten up.
Kicker helped him, though.

Speaker 16 He he went on head and and missed the extra point you know what i'm saying

Speaker 16 and then houston they get a good return on the kickoff i think they ended up starting at like the 41.

Speaker 16 first play chubb went for about seven second one i think he went for about five

Speaker 16 and then finally mills connects for a nice 10 yard that he just threaded that in there like i thought he was going to the one dude and he threaded it to the to higgins on the back yeah that was a good ball bro Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 16 That was a good ball. And then the next play, he just misses the dude.
Like,

Speaker 16 how you just totally missed that one?

Speaker 16 But second down, he comes Marks. Marks did his thing now.

Speaker 16 Marks was toting the ball too. And

Speaker 16 he went 12 on that one. Immediately, another first down later.

Speaker 16 I think he went for like 19. Did it again.
Two explosive runs. Yo, that DB didn't want none of 77 pulling up out of there, though.
Like that's when y'all ain't allowed to cut. This is the thing.

Speaker 16 Can't cut. Can't cut.
He get down there. It's first and goal, dude.
I think it was on the sixth. They run it on the first down.
And then your boy Mills proceeds to miss on the second down.

Speaker 16 Like that, that was something they could have. They could have got a little closer easy.
And then on the third down, he makes a great throw, but the receiver can't hold on to it. He was worried.

Speaker 16 My man Kirk was worried about getting the feet in and said, you got to grab, you catch the ball first, and then you're going to drag your feet. Gonna just dead that second leg.

Speaker 16 You put the first one in, catch the ball. You know,

Speaker 16 yes, dude.

Speaker 16 Now you got to settle for three.

Speaker 16 It's three to six. And then Buffalo, like they start, what was it, like at their 12 because they got a holding penalty on the kickoff return.

Speaker 16 And again, they staying ahead of the sticks. The first down, I think Cooks got what, maybe, maybe five.
But if he got in tripped, bro,

Speaker 16 it was going to be six. Yo,

Speaker 16 yeah, that might have been another one they were sitting there on.

Speaker 16 Then that second down, I think it was, what's dude's name? Shakir? Secure? Shakir. Yeah, Sakir, dude.
He lost, he lost two. Like them boys were flying to the line.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 After that first drive, they was making a lot of plays, you know what I'm saying? Houston's defense. That second, that, the, the D-line, attacking,

Speaker 16 in the the secondaries, catching tackles. Yeah.
And third down, Allen, well, it would have been a sack if he hadn't pushed him forward, but he, he hits him, dude.

Speaker 16 And I see Allen doing the kick, fumble, everything on the ground. I'm thinking he might be up out of the game, bro.
Yeah, yeah. I didn't know what it was, his wrists, something.
He got sick. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah, he pops up, though.

Speaker 16 They end up having to pun it.

Speaker 16 They give it back to Houston. Chubb, I think he ends up getting the ball on the first down.

Speaker 16 He didn't get too much but again on the second down dude mills like he's missing wide open receivers dude yeah they had he left a lot of points on the field that touched well the touchdown wasn't his fault but then this one on the third and on the third down on the third and six he's wide open he's wide open you just got to get get him get get get that ball get that ball in his hands yeah that third down is what you're talking about where the receiver couldn't get his feet down yeah dude he just couldn't like you gotta you gotta make that a little easier for him dude yes he's wide open So they punt the ball, but hey, man, they punt the ball and the punter, man, he dropped that thing like Tiger Woods used to, man.

Speaker 16 I don't know how he got that ball to turn like it did.

Speaker 16 Bro,

Speaker 16 they dropped it down. I think it was, what,

Speaker 16 inside the five or at the five?

Speaker 16 Man.

Speaker 16 Buffalo get the ball. And

Speaker 16 I think it was.

Speaker 16 Allen on that second down hit Davis for like 22.

Speaker 16 Next, Cooks went on ahead, stayed ahead of the sticks. Cooks had some yards too, dog.
No, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
He did, he did.

Speaker 16 He was running the ball really well. Oh, yeah, for sure.
And then second down, Allen booted out for the tight end for eight.

Speaker 16 And then I think it was Cooks again, like.

Speaker 16 vision crazy like cut it all the way back against the grand he got he got 13 on that one and they end up getting him down to like a fourth and one or two something like that yep and allen hits johnson for 23

Speaker 16 23 boy

Speaker 16 first down though they went on dude who was the dn 98 though the d tackle bro he smacked he smacked old boy got through there smacked old boy it was it was what a loss of two on that one

Speaker 16 on first down dude the next play it go that man

Speaker 16 They lose 10 on that one.

Speaker 16 They was able to go ahead on third down, forced him into a, you know, a bad play.

Speaker 16 They was able to hold him to a field goal. So now it's six to, no, sorry, it's three.
It's three to nine now. Nine to three.

Speaker 16 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 16 And then Mills comes out on the first down and finally connects.

Speaker 16 On there to I think it was Collins.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it was Collins

Speaker 16 24, 25, something like that, brother.

Speaker 16 and when dude he was finishing on them runs though he was trying to destroy them dbs dude no he was dude he was trying to destroy them dbs next play mills goes and scrambles for i think it was only like four or five but they get the face mask face mask add another what was it 15 on top of it

Speaker 16 And then they go and do a receiver, like reverse around.

Speaker 16 He went to go get it. Damn.
Listen, he got fired on, though. He did.

Speaker 16 He got a.

Speaker 16 He did get fired on. He did get fired on.
Bro, take sweet fired on Jesse right there. Houston's out there, but this is what I love.
Houston's out there smacking. They're trying to fire on everybody.

Speaker 16 They're hunting. You know what I'm saying? They said they was out there hunting and they look like it.
Dude, that's number one.

Speaker 16 Dude, they

Speaker 16 big game hunting.

Speaker 16 Big game hunting.

Speaker 16 Number one, number two offense in the league.

Speaker 16 They big game hunting.

Speaker 16 And then immediately on the second down, your boy, he throws it short.

Speaker 16 like i'm like yo it's no way he can like this go get seriously uncomfortable because you're gonna have a defense like out there all day every day

Speaker 16 with what he's doing over here they already play

Speaker 16 they get to that fourth and one and that boy marks takes lemons dude and makes lemonade dude

Speaker 16 dropping it on him bro dragging old boy like dragging what he ended up picking up like six which should have been a loss of at least one or two.

Speaker 16 That's the actual. Dude, and then the next play, Mills again, short, like hit the defender in his back.
Dude would have turned around. He had one.

Speaker 16 All he had to do was look.

Speaker 16 He was, but look, but you know, when you're not, he's not in the position yet. So he was still felt like he was in trail.
Cause if he would have threw a good ball, it would have been tough.

Speaker 16 So DB is playing. That's why he didn't look back.
If you're not in a position to look back, then the ball would have landed right over his head.

Speaker 16 If it was a good thrown ball, he's playing like he's going to drop a dime, not expecting the ball going to hit him, be under thrown, hit him in the back of the head.

Speaker 16 So good job by the DB not to start looking back early because if you were to dime, they'd be like, play through his hands. You know what I'm saying? You're not in position to get back yet.

Speaker 16 Right, right. I got, yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 16 Second down, they get an incomplete, but they get an illegal contact that gives them the first down would have turned into what, a third and 10 right there. Yep.

Speaker 16 And then, yo, why is you trying a receiver pass, bro? Y'all are running the ball effectively. You're doing well.
You're trying to be too smart for your own good. Like you're trying to trick yourself.

Speaker 16 Like, no, make him stop at first before you start trying to trick him.

Speaker 16 I don't know how he was able to scramble for that for nine, but he did it, dude. He did what he had.
He finagled. He made it.
Yeah, he made

Speaker 16 it. Yeah.
And then I believe it was like third and one.

Speaker 16 I'm thinking, you know, they about to settle for three again. They, what is it, 30th ranked in the red zone?

Speaker 16 But Mark said, nah, let me go ahead and let me go ahead and do this, man.

Speaker 16 And then they get stopped on that first down immediately. Line back up.
Look like they're about to run the same play. Them boys suck into that play action.
Ah, bad eyes.

Speaker 16 Dude, and Kurt is wide open for the touchdown, bro. Yep.
Wide open for the touchdown. Now they up.

Speaker 16 They up 10 to what? 10 to 9?

Speaker 16 Yes, sir.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 I think it was

Speaker 16 the missed field goal that made it 10 to 9. Yes.

Speaker 16 It would have been, it would have been 10-10. It'd have been 10-10.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 Buffalo, it was the, what was the first

Speaker 16 play, wasn't it? The linebacker ended up dropping back, getting that good little. Well, he should have picked that, dude.
No, it was a little high. That was a good tip.

Speaker 16 He should have

Speaker 16 that in his hand. He cliff-pawed it to his mans.
If he couldn't catch it, that was kind of, it was kind of high. Tip drill.
He tip drill.

Speaker 16 They don't hit the, as long as it don't hit the the ground. We go.
Yeah. You know,

Speaker 16 for sure. He tips it.
The DB go ahead, pick it up to the house, dude. When for a touchdown.
Stupid with it. I love that.

Speaker 16 He had vision to score. Yeah, but

Speaker 16 block in the back, get it sent back. Buffalo got lucky on that one.
Houston come out there and they don't do nothing with it. They able to hold them.
And they have to settle for a field.

Speaker 16 That's a sweet. That's demoralizing.

Speaker 16 You got great field position. You actually scored.
No question. No question.

Speaker 16 It's 13 to 9. You still up.
You know, you still up. Yeah, you still feeling good.

Speaker 16 You still feeling good until you kick the damn ball.

Speaker 16 You ain't lying. But Debo, Debo, how about, how about that return, though? Did you see

Speaker 16 that spin? Because

Speaker 16 he was about to run into getting smacked. And, you know, right before collision, but he probably closed his eyes.

Speaker 16 Closed his eyes. Closes his eyes.
100%.

Speaker 16 100%.

Speaker 16 Right before impact, he's ready. He's like, boom.
He hits Buddy and spins. And he wasn't even really ready to spin.
He kind of, I think the returner was embracing for him. Momentum.

Speaker 16 But it was like momentum over just, yep. Momentum kept him going.
So that was just like unfortunate for them dudes.

Speaker 16 And then into the natural dead leg of the one-on-one on the kicker, he had no chance. No, he just took it to the crib.
Man, he ain't have a chance.

Speaker 16 You go from what, up by four to now you down by three yes and you ain't even get to touch the field as a defense dude that hurts that sucked that hurts i'm like yo this is gonna be one of them games where you play your you play your butt off and you don't come away with it dude literally your defense is balling they haven't they have they scored one touchdown on you guys and they missed the extra point you know i'm saying now you're going in down

Speaker 16 because special teams wait i mean gonna have been set

Speaker 16 dude houston came out there and to my surprise buddy come on it was only a minute 39 left buddy and they answer right before half they go six plays 75 yards for a touchdown and on top of that that man mills

Speaker 16 he makes up for missing the throws for the previous oh a thousand percent for the previous half dude he

Speaker 16 five for six

Speaker 16 70 70. All pass plays.
All pass plays, dude.

Speaker 16 They didn't run the ball not one time.

Speaker 16 20 to 16 at half. Yes.

Speaker 16 I'm like, okay, all the defense got to do is what they've been doing, buddy. Buffalo come out there.
I think they're able to convert like maybe it was one third down. Well, sorry, one first down.

Speaker 16 One first down. One first down.

Speaker 16 And then Houston locked in.

Speaker 16 I think the next first, they pressured Allen.

Speaker 16 He ended up for like scrambling for two yards. They gone ahead and sit Cooks down on this next play.
He only get two.

Speaker 16 And then dude, I ain't never seen nobody lose that many yards on a sack. 18, my brother.

Speaker 16 This man was 18. Scrambling.
My man fell down on the ground.

Speaker 16 Then got to get up, run back. He trying to reverse.
You see how many times 76 was trying to get a back block so he he didn't get, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Because you know, you can't crack back. Yes, yes.
You know what I'm saying? He kept on trying to shield them off. He was playing, like, boxing them out.

Speaker 16 Bro, man. And then, you know, they end up having to punt whatever.
So Houston gets the ball and they proceed to go penalty, penalty, penalty.

Speaker 16 They get illegal man downfield. Next, they get a hold.

Speaker 16 And then the third down, like they declined, i think what was it a holding penalty or was it a um illegal another illegal man downfield uh buffalo ended up declining because they didn't make the first anyway yeah so it was just bad it was real bad ball a bunch you couldn't even get the plays you didn't know i was like this is i could they didn't run a play or every play was a flag right they they they punt the ball back to buffalo And I don't know what

Speaker 16 Shakir, I don't know what he was thinking, dude. Like he was backing up.

Speaker 16 Running backwards. Running back.
And getting on top of that, they got a home penalty. Dead.

Speaker 16 Dude, so that.

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Speaker 16 That back that put the ball on the nine-yard line to start to drive. Dude, and Houston's defense is on Allen's back, buddy.

Speaker 16 Second down, he got to throw it away because they on his back. Pressure.
Third down, that boy Hunter put the old lineman in the spin machine right here in the matrix.

Speaker 16 He gets sacked. They got to punt the rock back over there to Houston.
And I'm thinking Houston go do something with that thing, baby.

Speaker 16 They go three and out. I don't know.
When you're on that fourth down, buddy, and you about to go for that punt fake, what made them think they can move the whole offensive line?

Speaker 16 I don't know.

Speaker 16 Like,

Speaker 16 you can't do that.

Speaker 16 That's why they got the flag because the offensive line. Yeah, they called him for a false start.

Speaker 16 You exploded the whole.

Speaker 16 He ran up behind them and then everybody moved.

Speaker 16 Right. right they the whole line just shifted like you can't do that y'all said already like you said

Speaker 16 i don't know they didn't ain't no way they practice they they had to practice that and practice they had somebody say hey that might not be illegal i don't think that's gonna work coach like i don't know like yeah that was that was that was that was not good that turned into four for seven No question, dude.

Speaker 16 They got to punt the rock. Buffalo get the rock back.
And third down.

Speaker 16 But then even though when they get the ball back my man fair catches the ball on the six yard line again hey i'm i'm just looking like just let it make them have to catch the ball there it's going to be bumped in the end zone keep your heels on the 10 or like do something but you're just feeling yourself in bad position like this boom

Speaker 16 like

Speaker 16 you got to take the chance and yeah how much more you gonna lose got it you know what i'm saying like you gotta you man you lost eight last time

Speaker 16 you know what i'm saying like let it go see what happened yes let it go

Speaker 16 third down

Speaker 16 secure secure that's it yeah i think he fumbles he fumbles houston recovers now great play great play great play another great play houston gets the ball back i think they're like at the what 20 almost inside the 20 some somewhere around there

Speaker 16 and i believe they end up getting you know

Speaker 16 11 maybe or something like that on a first and 10 or something like that. So now

Speaker 16 they have whatever it is they have. But again,

Speaker 16 they have to settle for a field goal. They get a delayed game penalty.

Speaker 16 Like, how you let that happen and you right there? Somebody got to call time, even the sideline. Like, somebody got to call time.
I know. I know.

Speaker 16 It's not that the defense is putting you in so many favorable positions, you should be blowing the bills out.

Speaker 16 Right, they shouldn't even be this close right now, bruh. I'm with you.
Like, there's no way they should be as close as they are right now.

Speaker 16 Like,

Speaker 16 anyway, brother,

Speaker 16 they go ahead, and now it's what is it? What's the score then? 23-16.

Speaker 16 They get a 26-yard field goal, right? Right, right. It's 23-16 now.

Speaker 16 Buffalo comes back out there, and the defense jump on his neck immediately.

Speaker 16 They sack him on first down. Yes.

Speaker 16 Yo. And then my guy.
Now we going into the Anderson on the third quarter, on the third down in third and 13, he go ahead and get. Oh, the only time he messes up.

Speaker 16 He let Josh scramble up out of that thing for 14 because he lost contained. You got to tell the DN, if you're going to go in, you got to stay out.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 They were doing a great job the whole time. Contain the Allen because

Speaker 16 you got to keep your lanes. He can't escape if he can't get through the middle.
And on the outside, y'all dudes, Hunter and Hunter and Jr., y'all are right there. He's there's nowhere to go.

Speaker 16 But as soon as you get the ah, your first time, and that's the only thing. And I like, I'm never bashing Will, but just letting it know it was third to 13.

Speaker 16 And the only reason why he got away was because you said, I was like, just no, don't go in there. Yes, don't go in there.
Don't go in there.

Speaker 16 Don't go in there.

Speaker 16 He came up out of that thing. I think

Speaker 16 at preceding second down, Cooks went for like 20.

Speaker 16 And then finally, Houston locks it down. I think they ran like four plays in a row on that one.
And on that fourth and one. Cooks run.
Cooks gets three on first down. Cooks gets five on second down.

Speaker 16 And then on third down, he gets one. So we get a fourth and one.
Dude, fourth and one, they went on head.

Speaker 16 Mad, they pushed the whole line back. He lost two yards.
They turned it over on downs right there in the red zone.

Speaker 16 Did you see how hype the defense was did you see how the corner everything is something dirty to your job you're not gonna make the play but he ran there and smacked the fullback like just met him so there's no bouncing there's nowhere you can go right that's how defense is is every play is not for you but something's gonna be dirty to your job and he was hyped like when he smacked them he knew he didn't make the play but it set up everybody else to fill up their gaps and send them back and make a two-yard loss.

Speaker 16 And then every he was turned like every man do your job. Every man do your job and

Speaker 16 it's gonna turn out how it needs to turn out that play with the coaches hype that joint that joint just sits me that play made me hype oh no question you got a young coach too now come on man hey houston get out there and you know what they do

Speaker 16 three and out not a damn thing not a damn thing

Speaker 16 not a damn thing dude that boy allen though he get back out there on that sec on that on that second down buffalo get back out there

Speaker 16 hey no sit your ass thumb sacks

Speaker 16 The next play, though. Will almost strip.

Speaker 16 Hey, after that sack, though,

Speaker 16 they got that boy Sarif, I think, went for like 44.

Speaker 16 Yeah. This is

Speaker 16 Alan again. Sack

Speaker 16 again.

Speaker 16 Hey, every man, whoop a man. That's what they was doing.

Speaker 16 Every man. Whoops.
Man. Whoopa.
Man. Dude, on the third down, they almost sacked him in.
He just was able to throw it away into the back of the offense. Into the back of the offense alignment.

Speaker 16 Almost looked like grounding to me. But he had a dude in front of of you running on crack.

Speaker 16 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah. Yeah.
I seen him at the late. I seen him late.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah. I was with you, too.
I'm like, where are you? What are you doing? He showed the other view, and I'm like, oh, he was. Okay.
But he's right there. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 So they ended up selling for a field goal. It's 19 to 23, dude.
Yes, sir. Hey, man.
Houston get out there. First down.
Bam. Mills his Higgins for what was it? 16 yard completion.

Speaker 16 He's that's it though. Toe tap on the sideline.
Just sweet. sweet.
That's it. That's it.
Buffalo stiffened up, made him punt.

Speaker 16 And now Buffalo get the ball back with 248 left, bro. Yes, sir.
17.

Speaker 16 It is no way I'm happy in this situation. Even though we have sacked the draws off this boy, I am not happy in this situation.
They go out there, bro.

Speaker 16 on that second and 10 at the 47 bro they sacking for 10 okay

Speaker 16 The next play on the third down, they sacking for seven. That's eight sacks.

Speaker 16 That's eight sacks.

Speaker 16 It could have been nine with the one that they, you know, he pushed him forward. He hit him forward in the back and he got, he gained a yard, they said, for sure.

Speaker 16 It is fourth and fourth and 26.

Speaker 16 It ain't no way. I'm like, this is over with, bro.
This is over with.

Speaker 16 And dude, here's the crazy thing. When I saw dude catch the ball and I seen old dude coming towards me, I was like, dude, it's hook hook and ladder.
It's coming.

Speaker 16 It's hook and ladder. It's coming.
You can see it like from a mile away. A mile away.
Bro, and they pick up the whole first plus more.

Speaker 16 Plus more.

Speaker 16 That hook and ladder was ran clean as hell, though, Debo. Bro, and then the next play,

Speaker 16 he throws the, Allen throws the ball down there. They lucky dude didn't have a little bit more room because he caught that, but he couldn't get both of them feed down.
Yeah, but that was a fade.

Speaker 16 That would have been that two. That was good defense, too.
That was good defense. It was a good position, good catch.
One foot in, one foot out. Yeah, dude.

Speaker 16 That would have been at the two if they was able to do that, dude. Man, I would have been ready to lose my mind, bro.
And then they get to the fourth and one,

Speaker 16 and they get a false start, brother. Like, you get fourth and one, you get a false start.
Now they kick y'all back five.

Speaker 16 I think they, by now, they had what they had to Houston, like 20, 25, somewhere around there. They was at the 17, five, y'all said the 22-yard line.
Okay. And then they pressure Allen again.

Speaker 16 He can't step through on that thing. He throws it short and he gets picked off.
Game over.

Speaker 16 Yep. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 16 And on top of that, they got an OPI anyway. Right.

Speaker 16 Right.

Speaker 16 And everybody was, they talking about, you know, defense. No, they like, no, that's offense.
No, that's offense. Buddy ran over there, smacked him.

Speaker 16 Buddy ran over there and twinked him off so he can run right back

Speaker 16 you know how bad that would have hurt them if they had actually caught that pass and then they had to have oh yeah no for sure but then i still would have been nervous because like they go drop him back i mean i've just seen this man complete a fourth

Speaker 16 for sure for sure

Speaker 16 yes with josh allen we never you never know

Speaker 16 man

Speaker 16 houston yo

Speaker 16 at one point cleveland was the number one defense. Okay.
Houston is currently the number one defense, Joe. Now, see, Joe, that's what a number one defense looks like.
And that's how you operate.

Speaker 16 You make the plays when it counts. Oh, Debo.

Speaker 16 Allen was sacked eight times, bro.

Speaker 16 More than he's ever been sacked in one game in his career. It could have been nine.
Like I said, it could have been nine. The four-man rush was terrorizing them.
They got hit when they blitzed.

Speaker 16 That was the crazy thing, dude. They got hit when they blitzed.
Anderson and Hunter just terrorized Allen all night, dude.

Speaker 16 Yep, which helped to the what two interceptions and a fumble that they recovered.

Speaker 16 Bruh, that turnover on downs in the red zone. The red zone turnover, they ain't getting nothing from that.

Speaker 16 Like, that was an opportunity where they could have had another three or six or seven, whatever it may be. Houston made plays when it counted in situational football.

Speaker 16 That is what number one defenses do.

Speaker 16 buffalo had nothing to do

Speaker 16 they could not protect that man last night to save anything like

Speaker 16 yeah debo this what you're saying is is absolutely correct the defensive line was just on them every time it only took four uh will

Speaker 16 hunter and the thing was with stingley in the secondary they're real sticky uh everybody there was nobody really running scot-free the biggest plays they had was Will Anderson, if he wouldn't have lost contained on that third down.

Speaker 16 And then when

Speaker 16 Shakir caught that swing pass

Speaker 16 that he made two people miss in the open field, if they just eliminate those plays, there's like nothing really there because the D-lines to get there. The secondary is sticky.
They make plays.

Speaker 16 They own people. So like the main thing is with them is Houston.
on offense. Are they going to be able to score those touchdowns?

Speaker 16 I think what CJ Stroud gets back, it's going to be really, really big for him because you got a great defense like this.

Speaker 16 We got, you got Nico Collins. You have some good, some good pieces on offense.
You have Christian Kirk.

Speaker 16 Somebody who's plays, like, I think in the red zone, just a red zone efficiency, don't turn the ball over, be able to score touchdowns instead of field goals.

Speaker 16 The future looks bright because that defense, they're out there. They're hunting.
They look hungry. They look happy to be able to, they want to hit people.
You know what I'm saying? Like

Speaker 16 when Hunter and them are talking about rushing the passer, that just looks like, that doesn't look like it travels. That defense travels.
It's number one for a reason in yards. Yes.

Speaker 16 And points allowed. You know, they're number one in total defense.
They're number one in points. They second in takeaways.
They second the turnover margin. They third in third down percentage.

Speaker 16 They third in pass defense and fourth in rush defense, dude. It ain't nothing that they don't do well.

Speaker 16 Like when you have all that, all I need my offense to do is give me 17 points, control the ball, and don't turn it over.

Speaker 16 Dude,

Speaker 16 it's easy from there.

Speaker 16 It looked good. It looked good.
It was with the backup quarterback. He missed a couple of passes, but then right at the time, he was able to get them down there when they needed to score.
Right.

Speaker 16 He answered,

Speaker 16 they answered when it counted. Like they answered.
They went on ahead. No, we ain't going to go down here down.

Speaker 16 Minute 38, he went on out there and took him on the touchdown drive. So it was huge.
All on his arm. All on him.

Speaker 16 Not one time, Debo. That's handed him.
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that was nice. That was nice.
That's what I'm saying. Offense answering when you need him.

Speaker 16 Defense going down there and punishing, dude, putting pressure on the quarterback. It's exactly what we gonna need when the Stillers face the Bears this week, dude.
All right.

Speaker 16 And I'm talking to the defense, dude. You know, I put everything on a defense.
You do. You do.
You do, Debo. You do that.
Because I'm a defensive guy, John. I know.
I know.

Speaker 16 Because I'm a defensive guy. Our job is to stop you from scoring.
If we do our job, then we win, period. Yes, you are.

Speaker 16 He has to continue what they've been doing and build and get better than they were the previous week, the next week, and so on and so on, week after week.

Speaker 16 We have to stop the run and make Chicago one-dimensional, make them have to pass the ball.

Speaker 16 We do that. We can get them into third and long situations, dude, and get after Caleb.

Speaker 16 If we're able to do that, you know, and

Speaker 16 we create these opportunities, then we now create opportunities to get turnovers because we need turnovers.

Speaker 16 We have to give our offense more opportunities on the field because we don't execute well on a continuous basis, you know, on the offensive side.

Speaker 16 Right. On the offensive side.
And when you look at it, you know, Chicago's offense, dude, like they're number four

Speaker 16 offense in the NFL. They're number two in rushing.

Speaker 16 Like, dude, they have Swift and the other dude,

Speaker 16 both of them dudes almost averaging like four, eight a rush.

Speaker 16 And then you add, you know, Caleb in there with his scrambling. I think.

Speaker 16 just from you know his scrambling it's not designed total runs for him like he's fifth i think rushing quarterback in the nfl and that's only behind uh lamar

Speaker 16 allen hurts and daniels damn so yes dude if we do not stop the run

Speaker 16 we're going to be in for a long row and the offense dude they have to take advantage of chicago's defense they're they're they're a 27th ranked defense

Speaker 16 and they're 25th in the rush dude now

Speaker 16 here's an issue though.

Speaker 16 Yes, what's the issue? The issue is they're number one in interception rating.

Speaker 16 That's why we have to run the ball effectively, because we can't get into situations where we're behind the chains and we have to pass the ball.

Speaker 16 On top of that, they're number two in third down percentage. So they know what to do on third downs when they

Speaker 16 can't be behind the chains as an offense, not doing things effectively and having to rely on the pass game.

Speaker 16 Therefore, that's why it's critically important that our defense shut them down so that they cannot score points. Like the offense, we cannot turn the ball over.
We need to stay ahead of the chain.

Speaker 16 So we have favorable down and distance situations.

Speaker 16 You know, that second and six or that third and three and four, whatever that is, we have to have that effectiveness or a success rate as they say it when we get out there as an offense yep i'm with you i think for show for show we need to have mount washington playing out in the game big time i think his him being able to help in the run game run blocking and then being able to in the pass game also you don't know if you're going to run or pass me easy there because we could run behind him because he's 300 he's going to block and we could play action and be able to pass.

Speaker 16 So I think being able to use Washington, being able to stay ahead of the sticks, like you're saying, using Gamewell, if we could just get the ball into their hands early, but by staying ahead, I know we need to run for sure, but we have to run.

Speaker 16 We have to run. But I'm just saying, making sure we stay ahead of the sticks and not turning the ball over.

Speaker 16 On defense, like you said, Debo, we cannot let Swift start toting the ball on us. They can't get ahead of the sticks.

Speaker 16 And we need to be opportunistic because when we get in those third down and long situations where TJ Watt can get the strip sacks, where High Smith, where nick burfick where they can just come strip the quarterback be able to get after him contain lanes too we don't need to be able to like just trying to beat you not individual we need to rush as a team defense line the front line d tackles y'all stay in y'all's lanes dns be able to come and flush them forward so he's not being able to escape not only stay in your lane dude don't get pushed off the ball No, no, for sure.

Speaker 16 You cannot get pushed off the ball, dude. I don't care if you double team.
Grab, grass, drop down. If you don't do, just fall to the ground.
Make a pile.

Speaker 16 If you can't do nothing else, you can't get pushed back three, four yards. This vertical hole.
No, no, a thousand percent. A thousand percent.

Speaker 16 You can't do that. And

Speaker 16 it looks like we may not even, you know, have Aaron. He, he, he, he looks like he broke or fractured some type of bone in his wrist.

Speaker 16 And, you know, he's saying, you know, if he's able to protect himself, he's going to play. He was out of practice.

Speaker 16 He was wearing a wrist stabilizer and he took, you know, some snaps, some reps from gun.

Speaker 16 you know but

Speaker 16 you think you think he'll play sunday if he

Speaker 16 if he's able to play do you think he'll play even if he's not able to play or would you just prefer to see you know rudolph you know get out there who would you want to see the i want to i don't want a rod to get i i want him to be able to protect himself because it is on his non-thone hand and if you well i know about having the broken fingers you can't protect your head from going down to the ground you're crazy so you you can and it ain't about you not being able to.

Speaker 16 You're going to go throw that wrist out, dude. You're going to protect yourself from hitting the ground.
And now it may not be, longer be a fracture. It may be a total break.
So

Speaker 16 I don't think it's smart for him to actually play. I believe that we can beat this team as long as Mason can go out there.

Speaker 16 and be effective and we can actually run the ball and get them to where they are now you know biting up on some of of the play action things so we can get deep balls and be efficient in hitting the, you know, the short routes, getting and then creating, you know, yeah, we got to, we got to get yards out of the catch.

Speaker 16 Like you said, Darnell Washington, that boy 311, you're trying to tackle offensive lineman. Yeah, a thousand percent.
That are throwing out stiff arms and trying to hurdle you.

Speaker 16 Doing all that. All that.

Speaker 16 As the size of a right tackle. Yes.
So I think it's going to be big for Mason Rudolph. I think Mason Rudolph can do it.
You know what I'm saying? He showed us a lot of times.

Speaker 16 He's been a starting quarterback.

Speaker 16 And I think he just knows what he has to come in there and do his job. He knows this.
I like Mason's deep ball. I like when he could throw the bang eights.

Speaker 16 If we can get the run game going, you know what I'm saying? He can be able to hit DK on some of those passes. And I like, I like Mason.
I like the way he throws the ball.

Speaker 16 So just being able to go protect it, knowing what he's got to go do, he's not trying to go out there. No, he's, they're not putting the team on him.
You don't got to go win it.

Speaker 16 We're not putting the whole thing on your back. We're just asking you to go down there and maintain the ship.
Just keep it, keep us afloat, keep it going.

Speaker 16 Don't do nothing crazy, but just play, play, play the, play the, play, play, win.

Speaker 16 If it ain't there, man. And

Speaker 16 throw it away. Throw it away.
Throw it away. If it ain't, if the, if the, you know, if the drop, if the, uh, if the dump is there, dump it.
If it's not and you can't, go ahead. You got to take a sack.

Speaker 16 Like, don't do anything that's going to give them the ability to get extra possessions. And we're giving away possessions.

Speaker 16 We can't, especially when it's going to give them short fields or takes away opportunities where we could have scored points.

Speaker 16 He had three drives last week, and we scored two touchdowns and got a field goal on another one. We could have scored three touchdowns on all three of them.
So just do what you're doing.

Speaker 16 Just, you know what I'm saying? What I've seen last week, if I'm going from previous, just do that. You know what I'm saying? You got a week of practice.

Speaker 16 I know he's preparing like he's going to be able to be out there. So even that.

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Speaker 16 Giving them a little more confidence, knowing like, alright, bet, like, this could be literally on me. You know what I'm saying? I have them feeling better, too.
Yeah, lads.

Speaker 16 Speaking of confidence your boy shador say

Speaker 16 the guy the browns the browns go up against the raiders but um i want to let you in on a little secret

Speaker 16 quarterbacks are 0 and 17 and their first career starts since the teams joint in a foul

Speaker 16 what do you

Speaker 16 What do you expect to see? And what do you

Speaker 16 say they need or shouldor needs to do to make sure that the browns come away with a victory because for me

Speaker 16 you know

Speaker 16 i don't know

Speaker 16 well it's reports out there that joe flacco before he left said you know he was upset that they wasn't opening up the playbook they wasn't throwing the ball down the field you know

Speaker 16 because you know the offensive coordinator didn't you know that's not what he wanted to do so now this kind of puts me in the situation of if that's something that that wasn't

Speaker 16 part of the plan, then what we're dealing with with Gabriel, we may end up dealing with Shador.

Speaker 16 Or

Speaker 16 is

Speaker 16 it going to be a situation where we see Shador actually taking the shots down the field? Or,

Speaker 16 you know, I'm just kind of thinking like we might have.

Speaker 16 might have jumped the gun on on you know gabriel being a dumped down passer You tell me.

Speaker 16 I would say. Hold up.
And something else, bro.

Speaker 16 You're playing the Raiders. Yes.
If your defense does what your defense is supposed to do, it's no way Shador can lose this game unless he loses this game.

Speaker 16 Debo,

Speaker 16 you are saying what I was about to say.

Speaker 16 Best things, best case scenario. We're going against the Vegas Raiders.
Okay.

Speaker 16 Shador, I'm not asking asking you. Nobody's asking you to go out there and be a world beater.
You know what I'm saying? We're just asking you to go in there and the simple throws.

Speaker 16 We're not asking you to go. We need to run the ball.
Our offensive line needs to make sure Jutkins gets going. We need to stay ahead of the sticks.

Speaker 16 Just the same things that we're saying for like the Mason Rudolphs, the teams that have great defenses, you don't lose the games for those guys. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 You don't put them in bad positions. They're going to go out there and ball out.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 What you do is stay ahead of the sticks, hold the ball, convert on third down you know what i'm saying don't turn the ball over so with me and shador they need to go in run the ball really well jutkins they need the offensive line needs to protect them know that he's a young quarterback coming in this is his first start and not all it's already pressure it's a lot going on but just like when we had dylan gabriel in there and some thirds downs i would see that he would throw the ball into the ground even if it's not the open the playbook on third and six when you have a out route hit that out route you know what i'm saying to move the chains if there's nothing's there you know i'm saying throw it out throw it it away.

Speaker 16 You know what I'm saying? Just smart decisions, not being out there trying to do too much, throwing interceptions, turning the ball over, hurting your team.

Speaker 16 Because you got a great, we have a great defense. Defense needs to go out there and perform, try to create turnovers, get you the ball back

Speaker 16 on their side of the field. You know what I'm saying? Like where you have

Speaker 16 short fields. When you get in the red zone, try to get touchdowns instead of interceptions.
But if you don't.

Speaker 16 don't turn it over still be able to get three you know what i'm saying like just do the simple things do the simple things right. And we're going to be able to see progress.

Speaker 16 And not, you're not losing the game. And on third and sixes, when you can able to create, hit that, hit that five and out.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Scramble maybe for a couple of first downs, extend a couple of drives, you know what I'm saying? And then hit a couple of big passes. If you hit a 15-yard dig, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Some out routes on time. 16 for 22, you know what I'm saying? 160, 170 yards, two touchdowns, and we win the game or one touchdown, no turnovers.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 You scrambled a couple of times. So nobody's looking for you to be

Speaker 16 30 for 30 for 35 300 yards three touchdowns no interceptions that's not what we're asking from you that's not that would be amazing you know i'm saying but right for you to go out there and just be a consistent quarterback could be able to just not turn the ball over hit simple passes that we need and not just be airmailing stuff throwing stuff in the traffic you know i'm saying like those turnovers that you had don't turn the ball over because we have a great defense eat that you know what i'm saying

Speaker 16 something just jumped in my head, Joe.

Speaker 16 But you know what? Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Something just jumped in my head, man. Listen, don't say nothing, don't say nothing, man.
Don't say nothing bad. Miles Garrett is about to play the Raiders, bro.
Yeah, he's going for the record.

Speaker 16 He might get it.

Speaker 16 Is that what she thought she was thinking about? Oh, my God.

Speaker 16 That, oh my God, bro.

Speaker 16 Lord, Lord.

Speaker 16 And on top of that, Miles could get the record. And Shadeau could break the record.
record he can be the first quarterback that gets a win his first career start since the browns rejoined the nfl yeah

Speaker 16 whoo

Speaker 16 hey joe i'm gonna i'm gonna have to watch this one joe you got to debo you gotta be dialed in and viva

Speaker 16 what

Speaker 16 and viva las vegas i gotta watch it i think shouldot gonna be able to do it i hope because the browns defense gonna come along and then we just had that offense do what i said what what the odds is i'm dropping i'm dropping i'm dropping 50 000 on shadow oh man and get and get his first career start win and break the record the curse of the cleveland browns since they rejoined the nfl that'll be sick first time starting quarterbacks

Speaker 16 i'm i could put 50 000 on it are you a lot

Speaker 16 you a lot

Speaker 16 i'm gonna thank you i'm gonna thank you at advance okay still's got the one o'clock y'all got the four i i'm gonna thank you in advance hey

Speaker 16 bruh i appreciate that debo i like that energy hey shouldoto if you don't do it brother i'm gonna have to come see you though

Speaker 16 i'm gonna have to come see you if you don't do that i'm gonna need half that back

Speaker 16 that's that pressure that's that real pressure that's that debo pressure

Speaker 16 speaking of you know speaking a little bit of pressure man so CeeDe Lamb confirmed the rumors that, you know, he and George Pickens had been out past curfew after having dinner and drinks at the Red Rock Casino in Vegas.

Speaker 16 Okay. Okay.
Now they were benched for the first couple series. I thought,

Speaker 16 I think it was supposed to be for the whole game, but things

Speaker 16 were benched for the first series, bro. It was just one.
It was the first two. It was the first two.
Are you sure? I'm positive, bro. I'm positive because I think that was when they ended up

Speaker 16 getting the field goal. Okay.
And then

Speaker 16 I think they were trying to sit them down for the whole game, but things got hectic, you know. But

Speaker 16 he said, Hey, I'm shooting down any claims that you know I had been seen throwing up at 7:30 a.m.

Speaker 16 He said, You know, such claims were offensive to him because he can hold down his liquor,

Speaker 16 dude. What should have been offensive is that you were actually out drinking before the game,

Speaker 16 like

Speaker 16 and missed past curfew. That's crazy.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I know. It's Vegas, bro.
It's Vegas. You could go back and you can go back and, you know, you can go back in the offseason if you really want to get some Vegas in, brother.

Speaker 16 No, for sure, for sure. And I mean, yeah.

Speaker 16 You ever had anybody that, you know, went on head and got it, got it in? Man, look.

Speaker 16 Debo, Debo. Miss Curfew.
Debo, Debo, Debo. You, are you, I mean, you are hilarious because yes, I had plenty of teammates.

Speaker 16 I was teammates with my good man young johnny that had a game and he flew to vegas before game

Speaker 16 you know what i'm saying had a little so yeah i got plenty teammates that did some wild things you know uh that's it you got any more

Speaker 16 uh what you mean i'm just asking i don't know i'm just asking yeah yeah i got i got i got i got some more but i'm not here to dry snitch johnny or johnny already told on hisself so i feel comfortable me and that's my goal so this story's already out there anybody else i was just saying you know because we run a we run an honest podcast you know what i'm saying saying?

Speaker 16 Oh, no, for sure, for sure. Transparency.
I don't want to be, I don't want to be too transparent.

Speaker 16 Before game day, game day was never, no. I'm never missing nothing.
And I'm not doing nothing before game day.

Speaker 16 Chilling. Oh, yeah.
Chilling. During the week, sometimes when I was on the younger side, like you said, I might have stepped out, you know, might have been a little bit to work.

Speaker 16 Oh, gang, wrestling in, woke up. I ain't gonna lie, bro.
I'm a little late. I was too scared.
I was too scared to do

Speaker 16 anything. Because, you know, you came in drafted, bro.
I came in.

Speaker 16 I came in as a package deal because they needed an extra body. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 You came in, buy one, get one. That's cool.

Speaker 16 Cut me like they cut checks. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Debo, you ain't lying. I did have a little extra wiggle room because I was like, yeah, Joe, you going to be here for a while.
Dude, money. Speaking of money, man.

Speaker 16 James Winston says he regrets letting his family and friends spend $400 a month. $400

Speaker 16 a month.

Speaker 16 Joe, have you ever heard of of anybody spending that, letting anybody spend that much money on their family or friend? 4, 8, 12, 16.

Speaker 16 Oh, my.

Speaker 16 1.6 every four months. How long? But how many months was it?

Speaker 16 Bruh, listen. That's crazy.
Bruh, listen. That's crazy.

Speaker 16 400 a month?

Speaker 16 You don't know what you don't know, but

Speaker 16 yeah, just telling them like, no, you can't.

Speaker 16 What people don't realize is this NFL thing and like this money, it's not going to last. NFL stands for not for long.

Speaker 16 If Jameis Wilson had 5 million, Jameis Wilson touched $2.5 million.

Speaker 16 So that five isn't two and a half. And then you have to live for the rest of your life.
And

Speaker 16 everything costs. everything

Speaker 16 window like this window but you trying to spread it to this you got the and here's the thing to young guys of you got it. To young guys

Speaker 16 that don't see the end.

Speaker 16 It's care as if

Speaker 16 every day could be the end, dude. Because the average NFL career is what, three and a half years?

Speaker 16 I think three years.

Speaker 16 Like

Speaker 16 it is,

Speaker 16 it's not going to be long if you're average. Some people are fortunate enough, such as you and I, to get longer careers going, but

Speaker 16 you cannot

Speaker 16 let

Speaker 16 that money just run through your fingers, dude, because you have it.

Speaker 16 And the biggest issue with guys is they don't see it coming to an end. And they don't see it coming to an end until it's already there.
And now they're like, oh man, I got to do this.

Speaker 16 I got to do that. I got to take care of my body.
I got to do whatever I need to do to get back healthy. And nine times out of 10, they hurt something and they can't get back to where they were.

Speaker 16 And now it's somebody else in there that's younger, that's faster, that's stronger, that's cheaper.

Speaker 16 And they're running off with what it was that you had, but didn't take advantage of it because you were too busy living the high life, spending, flashing, and all that. It's so

Speaker 16 for kids, I mean, finally being able to make your dream, never having the money before, you got to realize, though, it's like this thing that you believe in now, it's your job. it's what you do.

Speaker 16 And this, you're hitting the lottery every single year. It could be gone before you, before you know it.
But telling the player that while you're in it, you think you're about to get your next deal.

Speaker 16 This contract is what it is. Like, now I'm about to get the bag.
That's how always everybody thinks.

Speaker 16 But you got to always think like, no matter what, if you're done, if you play a 10-year career, you get in when you're 21, 22 years old, you're 32, done out. And then you got to.

Speaker 16 And if you get 10 now, if no, this is good. This is, this is long.

Speaker 16 This is, this is even if you play on the long end, like me and you, if you only think, if you only do four or three or two, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Like, that's something that people don't really think about. You think your career is going to last a long time and no, the next year, I'm going to be able to stack it the next year.

Speaker 16 No, I'm going to get, I'm going to get a deal with this one. So I'm going to be able to do this stuff now.
No.

Speaker 16 Once you get out after two years, after five years, after 10 years, when you can finally sit down and have all of that stacked, sitting in the bank and with whatever, whatever you're able to play with, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 Being able to have that nugget or being being able to set budgets for yourself, goals of knowing at the end of the year, I need to have this much in my account.

Speaker 16 Because at the end of the, once it's all done, what can I have for me? What can I be able to walk away with? Because it's been dudes that always planning on now.

Speaker 16 The next year was, I'm going to be able to start stacking my, and then it's, it's, it's gone. So just planning like this could be gone tomorrow, every

Speaker 16 year.

Speaker 16 So every dude has to make sure

Speaker 16 that they're stacking it.

Speaker 16 Matter of fact, this is what I'll say. When you're playing, everybody wants to be around you.

Speaker 16 So, all those business connections that you can make, instead of making the connections with Joe Blow that does this or that, like make the connections with people who do investments, make the connection with people who own, you know, those multi-million dollar companies, corporations, billion-dollar corporations.

Speaker 16 Like, make those connections. They want to be around you.
Yes.

Speaker 16 Take advantage of these opportunities. They want to talk to you now.
You are right then and there, because when you're done, they don't care about it. They don't want to see you.

Speaker 16 They can't flaunt you in front of whoever or whatever or take pictures with you and say I was with so-and-so. Like when you're in there, dude, use that.

Speaker 16 I think we're too busy trying to, you know, do whatever it is that we're trying to do when we're young. I was one of those guys, to be honest with you, I didn't even save money, dude.

Speaker 16 I didn't save money until I had my son, dude. And then I was like, oh, snap, I got to worry about somebody else other than myself.

Speaker 16 And that's really what started me to saving and investing and

Speaker 16 building the actual, you know, a life

Speaker 16 after football. So

Speaker 16 I was, I think

Speaker 16 I got drafted and I heard so many of the

Speaker 16 horror stories because I was a highly drafted player, Debo, you know what I'm saying? So coming into a lot of money, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 It was just something that wasn't, I wasn't normal used to. So at the beginning, I could say I definitely did a lot of the wrong things, but you got to go through trial and error.

Speaker 16 You know what I'm saying? You have family, you got friends, you got things that you got to be able to set boundaries. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 You have getting married, having a family, knowing like this could all be gone. You know what I'm saying? You want to take care of people, but end of the day, once it's all done.

Speaker 16 you'll be looking at you crazy if you don't have anything left you know i'm saying so being able to save and stack so when you do retire you can be able to live fruitfully and be able to take care of people and move how you want to and be and keep your sanity yeah yeah for sure hey look here they say uh l'Angelo ball revealed that he only tips what is it $10 $20 on a $400 meal he said that's how I rock we got we got the video I think I think we got we got the video on that

Speaker 16 no we don't okay cool anyway that boy say that's how he rock how you tip bro $10 $20 $400 meal never Debo I'm I'm I'm a I'm a gracious tipper and I learned my parents we always they were my parents are 20

Speaker 16 And that's basically how I do all the time. I'm a 20% tipper.
And that's just, that's for bad. If I, if it's a good service, I might go 25, 30.
You know what I'm saying? But like, I really,

Speaker 16 I, I think that if somebody's doing a good service and I'm getting really good, um, really good help, I love, I'm a good tipper. I learned from my parents, though.
They always did that.

Speaker 16 So I'll tell you this. So

Speaker 16 I'm like

Speaker 16 a 15 to 20 tipper. Okay.

Speaker 16 And the reason I, my big pet peeve is if I have water and my water go empty,

Speaker 16 my water ain't full. That's a problem for me.
So you only go get 15 to 20%.

Speaker 16 Now, if I have somebody that's real attentive

Speaker 16 and really takes care of me, I'm going to take care of them. Got you.
Depending on what the bill is, I may tip 100% of the bill.

Speaker 16 And depending on where I'm at.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 then something else, like I want to, especially if you get get a good server, that's that's just what they is. You know, you look around, it's not them just treating you that way.

Speaker 16 You see them at this table and that table, and they're doing the same. I'm like, Yo, that's a good server.

Speaker 16 So, I want to make sure when I come in here, they see that, see that reservation for James Harrison.

Speaker 16 Hey, make sure you give me that server if they, if they don't want me, because I'm you know, I'm gonna.

Speaker 16 And then, on top of that, if they're not there, the server is gonna be like, Yo, so-and-so tips well, but you got to make sure you take care of them, you know.

Speaker 16 So, yeah, you have to, you, you have to, you have to tip well, dude. It's not, it's not a, you know, an option you're going out no matter what happens you have to tip well

Speaker 16 it's it's nothing worse than you know you as a server going and serving somebody and then i don't care if the service is average like you still have to tip well like no no no nowhere should anybody get less than 18 to 20 if they did their job effectively now if they did they go above and beyond and being dislike disrespected hey and above and beyond and they just they they, I ain't gonna even lie, dude.

Speaker 16 I think I said that one time, and I don't know if the server had heard it somewhere, but dude, I couldn't get a sip of water out of my glass, bro, without him coming back and filling that thing.

Speaker 16 Making sure who's on top, yes.

Speaker 16 So you took care of him, dude. No question, bro.
I'm like,

Speaker 16 I had to do this one. No, I'm good.
I don't need no more water, man. I ain't gonna go.

Speaker 16 No, for sure. I'm with you a thousand percent, Debo.
Good tip. No matter what, like you said, 18 to 20, they're doing their job.
They got a job to do, but I'm a thousand percent.

Speaker 16 Normally, because I go by this, I normally divide it by four or I divide it by five, whatever the bill is, how much it costs, I divide it by four or five. So I know I'm gonna get either 25% or 20%.

Speaker 16 For sure, for sure.

Speaker 16 Look here, man, Joe.

Speaker 16 We hit

Speaker 16 50,000 subscribers here on YouTube, bro. We want to

Speaker 16 all you guys for subscribing to us, watching us, man. We appreciate you, man.
I ain't gonna lie to you. I would have thought it would have been about 100,000, 150,000 by now.

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