Nightcap Hour 1: Texans Defense DESTROYS the Bills + CeeDee Lamb CONFESSES to BREAKING CURFEW + George Pickens CONTRACT LOOMING + AJ Brown SNEAK DISSES Saquon?!

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Speaker 21 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
What an outstanding game by the Texans defense.

Speaker 21 Eight sacks, three takeaways, two picks, and a fumble recovery. They pressured Josh Allen all night.

Speaker 21 If you would have told me the Texans' defense could do this, we know they're outstanding.

Speaker 21 This is the best defense in football, statistically, was going to be able to take this man down eight times, take the ball away three times. I wouldn't have believed you.

Speaker 21 But the Texans defense rose to the occasion. And when they absolutely had to have it again, it was their defense.
And that is the mark of a great defense. Y'all know who I am.

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Speaker 21 The Buffalo Bills, 20, excuse me, the Texans, 23. The Buffalo Bills, 19.
Texans D, eight sacks, two pick, one fumble recovery. Countless, countless pressure.

Speaker 21 They probably would have had him another three or four times had it not been Josh Allen. Yeah.
Because he got the ball out a couple of times, Ocho, and he was able to get out of harm's way.

Speaker 21 But I thought they did an unbelievable job. Will Landerson Jr.
is about to get him a Hutchinson contract? Woo!

Speaker 21 Real Hunter on one side. Will Landerson Jr., you got Mario Edwards Jr.
You got Rankins. You have Barnett.
They got a front that they can rotate guys in. Tuolobo got in on action.

Speaker 21 And the back end is solid. You got Stingley, you got Laps.
They are really, really good on the back end, but their front four, their front six

Speaker 21 is exceptional. And they did an outstanding job considering the offensive player of the week, Josh Allen, three touchdowns.

Speaker 21 There's only two men that's ever had three touchdowns rushing Ocho, three touchdown passes in a game. Otto Graham did it in 54 in the championship game.
Josh Allen has done it twice.

Speaker 21 They made Josh Allen seem normal.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 21 They made him seem normal. And Josh Allen is anything but normal.
So I don't think that's the way Josh played tonight that was all because of that Texas defense. I ain't nothing with you no more.

Speaker 21 Now, I told you, Josh Allen was supposed to have 255 yards. That's all I needed.
Look what he got.

Speaker 22 He had 253.

Speaker 21 That means he was under. I said he was going over.

Speaker 21 Before you go, Ojo, here's the Texans defense.

Speaker 21 Number one in total defense, first in points allowed, third in defense, third and third down percentage, third in pass defense, third in rush defense, fifth in takeaways. Take off.

Speaker 22 Hey, listen, around the board, the Texans defense

Speaker 22 around the board on all three levels, the front, second level, and that back end is phenomenal. For one, I know what Will Anderson Jr.
did tonight.

Speaker 22 I know how he looked tonight, but I want to give Kaylin Bullock some love, boy. I want to give Kaylin Bullock some love.
Two interceptions, forced fumble. He made Shakira fumble

Speaker 21 early. Hey, the third.
Wasn't that in the third quarter?

Speaker 22 I think it might have been the third. Kaylin Bullock was all over the place, huh? He was.
He was all over the place. Will Anderson Jr., they sacked Josh Allen eight times, huh?

Speaker 22 It almost looked like what we consider Superman at most times with his ability to extend plays and

Speaker 22 play off script. It looked like he didn't even be long out there.

Speaker 22 They had him uncomfortable all game. He missed the the Christternight boys.
Yep,

Speaker 22 basically, that's exactly what it was. And for me, for the Texans, right? If we can get that offensive, and goddamn

Speaker 22 brother Mills, David Mills was only 16 for 30 with two TDs. He only had 153 yards.

Speaker 21 He left some plays out there, Ocho. I know you saw it.
I know you saw what I saw. I was tweeting.
I was like, bro, how many throws? How many TD throws are you going to leave out there? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 21 You got the guy open. You hit the guy in the back of the head.
You got the guy. I'm talking about, that's the defender you hitting in the back of the head.

Speaker 21 Under throwing the ball.

Speaker 22 But listen, I'm not sure when CJ Stroud comes back, but when he does, when he does, if that offense, if CJ Stroud can elevate that offense and meet that defense just halfway, we don't need you to be top five in the NFL.

Speaker 22 Just meet him halfway, it can be scary. It can be scary, especially if

Speaker 22 they can get in that doorway and getting them playoffs. But that's a defense that don't nobody want to see at all.

Speaker 21 The defense is, and that's the question offensively because this defense is as good as advertised. D'Amico Ryan does a great job of setting the people.

Speaker 21 Uh, I forget the uh, the defensive coordinator that was calling the plays tonight, but uh, Miko turned a play calling over to him.

Speaker 21 Yeah, but when you look at Danelle Hunter had two sacks, Will Anderson Jr. had two and a half sacks, Tuololo had a sack, Tim Settle Jr.
had a sack, Mario Edwards had half a sack, Barnett had a sack.

Speaker 21 Uh, I mean, hell, the only people that didn't get a sack was me and you, and I'm in New York and you in Miami. Hell, if we'd have been in Houston, we bought could have got a half a sack together.

Speaker 21 And I got one more thing. One more thing.

Speaker 22 For those of you that are in the chat, I don't understand why offensive coordinators do this, right? You understand how well your defense is playing.

Speaker 22 I think in the fourth quarter, toward the end of the third quarter, going heading into the fourth quarter, you're getting all these turnovers, right?

Speaker 22 You're getting all these opportunities for the Texans offensively. What is with the goddamn conservative play calling just because you have the lead? Why not be aggressive?

Speaker 22 Put your goddamn foot to the goddamn pedal and put the game away. Put the game away.

Speaker 22 So it doesn't come to a nail battery, a nail biter at the end where they run a goddamn pitching ladder on fourth and 27 and get it and have an opportunity to win the goddamn game.

Speaker 22 It shouldn't even have to come to that. If with them last three offensive series, when you had the ball, you run the ball first down.

Speaker 22 You run the ball second down, and then it's third and nine and third and eight. And that's damn near hard to get.
It's hard to get because you don't want to put it.

Speaker 21 It's not in that area of the field.

Speaker 22 It absolutely is yeah and the you don't want to put the ball in harm's way so you don't you don't call plays that can put the ball in harm's way on third down

Speaker 22 for brother david mills you know and if maybe if c day strive was in there maybe the play calling is a little bit more aggressive because you trust him a little bit more with the football in his hands but like come on that's a the defense is playing balls out

Speaker 22 Put the game away when you got the opportunity six seven minutes in the game four minutes in the game You got the ball you running the damn ball three times in a row.

Speaker 21 Like, come on, man. The defense know, they know that you don't trust Davis Mills.
So they know there's a better than 80% chance that you're going to run it.

Speaker 21 So what do we call a run blitz on first down? You stop you for no yard, no game. You see, it's plays like that, Ocho.
And you had an opportunity.

Speaker 21 Kirk dropped one in the end zone. He was worried about his feet and forgot to catch the ball.
Yeah. Because Mills put it right in his hands, Ocho.
He's trying to drag his feet.

Speaker 21 Now, if you go look at the adjustment Higgins had, Higgins had a play on the sideline. He's, bro, you got to, oh, we're going to say pause.
You got to go limp.

Speaker 21 Oh, Joe, you got to go limp on the sideline. Oh, Joe, that's a catch.
Oh, no, you can't put it any better.

Speaker 21 You can't take that full extended last step. He get his right foot down and he tries to take a full lamp.
No, you got to go limp there.

Speaker 21 That is really the.

Speaker 21 Even though he had an opportunity, it's not like, and then he came late in the fourth quarter. He had a sideline catch and he toe-touched it.

Speaker 22 In that situation, you got to go limp on the sideline bro you can't take that full extended step you can't it's you got to be self-aware um it's all about being self-aware and understanding where you are on the field knowing how much room you have you know and and one of the things that you do once you come out that break it's all about knowing where you are knowing when to allow the body to go limp to make sure you can ensure the catch and make sure you get your feet in Because first of all, you're probably at a situation like that, you're what, probably two, three yards outside the number.

Speaker 21 So you're going to speed cut it. You're going to hit 10, roll to 12.
So you already know that.

Speaker 21 There are some plays, the center for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 21 They drop Joey Bosa. They bring the linebacker from depth.

Speaker 21 They got three guys blocking two. He lets 50 run right in the gap.
Block if that's you. It's a perfect.
You can't ask for anything better, OJ.

Speaker 21 They drop one guy. Schultz go away.
And now you got three guys. You got the center, guard, and tackle.

Speaker 21 tackle yeah and and the center and the guard they're blocking two guys one guy and 50 cut right up the gut bro that's perfect center all you got to do is just push the guy onto the guard and you're like come on 50 i'm gonna hit you damn your damn mouth yeah that's all you got is stuff like that on the on the uh the the first play they came out with came out with a kind of like a little blitz and shakira okay shakir comes in motion come a he comes in short motion and then he bellies back okay you bring pressure guy you from depth that is a punt returner.

Speaker 21 That is a kick returner. What do you think the likelihood from 15, 20 yards deep, you are going to be able to tackle Shakur in a one-on-one situation?

Speaker 22 In the open field, it's not happening. In the open field, it's not happening.
I don't care if you come up under control. I don't care if you come up and come to balance.

Speaker 22 He's going to make you miss every

Speaker 21 time. I got a better chance of catching the win.

Speaker 21 And that's not happening. It's things like that

Speaker 21 on the hook and ladder.

Speaker 21 I'm like,

Speaker 21 oh, my goodness. Hey, really, for the moment.
Y'all not see the guys crossing? Y'all don't see them. So y'all don't.
So, Ocho, I'm in front.

Speaker 21 It's kind of like I'm coming across. I'll be driving my car.

Speaker 21 I see the guy about that pedestrian about to get in the crosswalk. Oh, I see this guy.

Speaker 22 But you know what? On that play, on the fourth and 27, when Palmer catches that ball, as aggressive, you know how aggressive that goddamn defense is. So they locked in.

Speaker 22 They took a B-line straight for Palmer and didn't even see the goddamn ladder. Didn't even see the hook and ladder come around with Shakir, which is why they was able to get fourth to 27.

Speaker 21 Ain't no goddamn plays for 227?

Speaker 21 Ain't no playing for that. And oh, Joe, and here's the thing is that

Speaker 21 the guy that was trailing Palmer,

Speaker 21 I'll be like, bro, you ain't finna catch him.

Speaker 21 Everybody on that side got to rally to the football. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 21 and chat, you've heard me say it many times. The markup of any great unit.
Can you get done what you need to get done when you got to?

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 21 At the end of the day, their best unit was i want my best unit on the field locho if i'm down three points if i'm down and i need to get a touchdown i want my best unit on the field yeah if i need to get a stop i want my best unit on the field so i would have trusted the defense to stop josh allen more than i would have trusted the houston texas offense to go get a a a game winning field goal or something of that nature so that's the unit that i want on the field that is it that's what i want and that's what they got And Miko Products said, hey, we're going to win or lose this game.

Speaker 21 I mean, it'd have been heartbreaking if one of that defense had played

Speaker 21 to lose that game in the final seconds. Now, we would look back, Ocho.
We look back like, well, damn, the offense did have numerous opportunities, and they would have.

Speaker 21 But when you got those, you got those Kryptonite boys, you got them headhunters like they got out there. Nah, bro, I couldn't ask for a better situation.
I want Hunter. I want Anderson.
I want Settle.

Speaker 21 I want Rankins. I want Edwards Jr.
I want I want Stingley. I want Lass.
I want you guys on the field.

Speaker 22 You put the game on the field.

Speaker 21 Come on, oh, come on, oh. I don't want that.
I want y'all ass on the field. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 22 I like it. Obviously, me being an offensive guy, I prefer.

Speaker 21 You want you, Carson, and TJ on the field.

Speaker 22 Hold on, but this is the thing. I don't even want it to come down to the last few seconds.
I want to put the game early when I had the ball with four, five minutes to go.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you could have made it 27. You could have made it 27.

Speaker 21 Hold on.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you could have made it 27, 16.

Speaker 22 So regardless of what they did,

Speaker 22 there was no way to come back. Regardless of what they did, so now we can relax.
We can relax on the sideline and just play defense.

Speaker 21 We ain't got nothing to worry about.

Speaker 22 But here we go. Nail biter at the end.
Now we have to rely on their defense. But again, as good as they are, there's a reason why they're number one.

Speaker 22 It's a reason why they're number one.

Speaker 22 So I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 22 That was one good game. If I'm not mistaken, some of the Thursday night games have been doozies, huh?

Speaker 21 They've been some snooze fairs. Yeah, but not tonight.
This was an interesting game.

Speaker 22 Hey, this was a very good game.

Speaker 21 Ocho,

Speaker 21 Bills O-line,

Speaker 21 they kicked your ass.

Speaker 21 They kicked your ass.

Speaker 21 Now, I think the right tackle ended up getting benched. Now, I didn't see him get hurt, but I know

Speaker 21 they had a right tackle adjustment.

Speaker 21 And Dawkins, who's their best offensive lineman, he got worked tonight. It happens.
It happens to the best of us.

Speaker 21 We've all had moments in games where we would, hey, I was this and Ocho, you've been that. And somebody get the best of us

Speaker 21 as a unit.

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Speaker 22 They got work.

Speaker 21 They got work.

Speaker 21 They get a number on y'all.

Speaker 21 They got overtime on y'all ass. Yeah.
They whipped y'all ass like y'all owed them money.

Speaker 21 I'm not sure if somebody made, hey, I don't know what went on, but when you do somebody like that, you whipping them like they owe you money. They owe you money.

Speaker 22 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 21 Not the rent, dude. Nah, he owe me money.
I'm going to whip his ass. And boy, they gave him work.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 21 Will Anderson Jr., I will say this. There was a third and 13, I think a third and 12,

Speaker 21 13 situation. You got to relay to your defensive tackle.
If you go inside, you've got to tell him the loop. You both can't get inside because you both went inside.
And guess what happened?

Speaker 21 Josh Allen went outside. The back door opened.

Speaker 21 The back door opened, yeah. You cannot do that.

Speaker 21 You got to relay that. I know you're quick.
And I know, like, oh, I got his ass set up. I done been beating him around the edge.
You kind of been beating him all.

Speaker 21 You beat him around the edge one time. You want next time, you spin him and you spin inside.
So, you was having your way with it.

Speaker 21 But I'm just saying, for future reference, you got to be careful at that. You got to communicate with your DT.
Hey, bro, check this out. Hey, I'm going to cross his face.
You bubble outside.

Speaker 22 Yeah. See, you know what? They got a community that they got to communicate.
Matter of fact, that's a stunt, huh? And if you call it a stunt, it has to be called in the huddle.

Speaker 22 They can't just make that up, you know.

Speaker 21 I thought, yo, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no no i'm gonna make we can make it up because i i think so if i'm d'emico ryan i trust i trust will landers okay okay okay okay i trust him enough that i'm gonna give him the leeway i'm gonna give him the latitude right but i need him to convey that with the dt d tackle yeah yeah yeah yeah hey hey bro check this out we're gonna run an et yeah and down tackle around

Speaker 22 Hey, hey, listen, when they can go on their own script like that, on their own page, off script based on what's called, and they can communicate that and then make the play.

Speaker 21 Yes. hey

Speaker 21 now we now we got now we got now we got him boxed in because look i want you to go up the field because i'm going inside and if you see you up the field he's going to dive inside that'll give me enough opportunity that i can get him right and if you come out the back door you'll be right there waiting on me you you a you right there that that that's that's that's the only that was the only thing defensively that i will say because i thought that i thought they played a perfect game tonight yes absolutely look i like i said you know we can we can nitpick the guy playing from depth because when shakur going that's short motion if you bring pressure he bubbles out the backside you got him one-on-one he is a punt returner yeah the the number one job as a punt returner is to make the first guy miss

Speaker 21 yeah hey the first guy you make him miss now

Speaker 22 you don't even count

Speaker 21 he's looking at you like the punter Because they said we got everybody else.

Speaker 21 If we got everybody else blocked, what you got to do to the punter? Make him miss. Make him miss.
So that's how he's looking at you with all that space?

Speaker 22 Yeah, you're not tackling nobody.

Speaker 22 It's not happening. They're too fast.
They're too quick. And matter of fact, if the punt returner, whoever it is, like someone like Shakur, Shakur is not a burner.

Speaker 21 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 22 But he, listen, he's agile. His lateral movement is phenomenal.
And it don't matter who you are. He's making the first man miss.

Speaker 21 Yes. Yes.
So you just got you just got to understand that, Ojo. You got to understand if I got this man man to man and they bring pressure, I've got to close the distance.

Speaker 21 It's the same thing like if a blitzer, if a blitzer is coming from depth, what I got to do is that I got to close the distance because if I let him come with a head of steam, I don't give a damn how good a blocker I am.

Speaker 21 He gonna sit me in the quarterback lap. I'll give you a prime example.
Look at Nicobe Dean. David Montgomery is a really good blocker.
Yes. But he let Dean get a head start.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 He, bow,

Speaker 21 boom, sacked the quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 21 So that's the thing. The number one rule.
And Chad, I'm trying to explain to you because I I used to have to block from the backfield. Yeah.
Hey, number one rule.

Speaker 21 So, hey, hey, Sharpie, you got to close the distance. So, guess what? You go, I'm going to meet your ass in the A gap.

Speaker 21 I'm not going to let you get no head of Steve, Ocho. I'm closing that distance.
Hey, I'm not going to let you get no running start.

Speaker 21 How am I? If I'm flat-footed, Ocho, I let you get a run and start. How the hell am I supposed to stop that? That man, 230, 240, he got a run and start.

Speaker 21 I just say for the sake of argument, the running back 210, 215. So 240 with a running start, a 210, 215 running back flat-footed, he's gonna sit you on your ass.

Speaker 22 Listen, every time, yep, I don't care what the laws of physics say, I don't care how low you get,

Speaker 22 you're gonna lose that battle every single time.

Speaker 22 As a DB, as a DB, and you see Shakur bubble before he gets that ball,

Speaker 21 you gotta close the distance.

Speaker 22 Not only do you gotta close the distance, you gotta close it aggressively, and you gotta shoot right away.

Speaker 21 You gotta close the distance. You gotta shoot for the legs right away.
Inside out. Yes.

Speaker 21 Because the thing, and

Speaker 21 it's gonna be hard because the thing is, Ocho, is that you coming down? I mean, how far he was, he's coming down with all that space because ain't nobody over there but him.

Speaker 21 Oh, Lord, please don't let him throw. Damn, he threw this ball.
Oh, Lord. Lord, come on.
Hey, hey. Hey, listen.

Speaker 21 You know what's funny?

Speaker 22 If you haven't closed the distance before he gets that ball in his hands,

Speaker 22 you've asked out. Nothing you can do.

Speaker 21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you done. Hey, you like, hey, you like grandma's Thanksgiving dinner.
She starts cooking that thing Wednesday early.

Speaker 21 So by three o'clock, hey, by three o'clock, are we eating at three o'clock? You know, like, because that's when all my uncles and hospitals go come over. Oh, that thing gonna be done.

Speaker 21 That thing falling off the bone, too.

Speaker 21 But uh, the Texas defense, that was, that was, might have been as

Speaker 21 impressive. And we've seen, you know, we've seen some the Broncos

Speaker 21 get nine sacks and stuff like that.

Speaker 21 But against that guy, yeah, after what he's just done and who he is right to sack him eight times to pressure him as many times he did coming off the game that he came off of yeah ocho we're not gonna touch on it

Speaker 21 but

Speaker 21 Keon Coleman they could have used him

Speaker 21 you got your work cut out getting back on the field I hold on hold on hold on hold on now I got something I got something for keto

Speaker 22 I don't really think he got his work caught up for him because if you think about it tonight's game, because

Speaker 22 the goddamn defense was so good, what did the Bills have to do all night?

Speaker 22 They had to go down the field methodically. Yes.
They had to go little by little.

Speaker 22 There weren't no big chunk plays. Now,

Speaker 22 what is Keon Coleman really good at?

Speaker 22 Giving you opportunities to have those 50-50 balls.

Speaker 22 Sometimes when it's him out there, them 50-50 balls, they turn to 80-20.

Speaker 21 They turn to 90-10.

Speaker 22 So his ability to give you chunk plays and then get you 40-50 yards, they could have used that tonight.

Speaker 21 Let me ask you a question. Who do you think he beaten? Stingley or Lasseter?

Speaker 22 I mean, listen, you got you,

Speaker 22 Stingley and Lasseter.

Speaker 22 You know who has the height advantage? Keon Coleman, 6'4. He's out jumping both of them.

Speaker 21 But the Steve thing is his problem is, is that if it's not in the red zone and I can't use my athletic ability to get over you, see, his problem is getting off press. Yeah.
It's hard.

Speaker 21 Ocho, it's hard to jump when somebody got these in your chest.

Speaker 21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 22 Listen, hey, Lasseter's the real deal, too. What? I know we always hype up Stingley, you know, and what he gets to be man-to-man, especially in bumper run, but they got damn Lasseter, yeah,

Speaker 22 ain't no stingle.

Speaker 21 Hey, Gabe Davis was just close, yeah. Oh, yeah, getting that foot in,

Speaker 21 getting that foot in, hey, he was this close, yeah, yeah, he was this close because we know Josh, he loves throwing the Gabe Davis now.

Speaker 21 It's not an accident. I mean, sometimes it's just,

Speaker 21 you know, he got paid. He went to Jacksonville.
He was there a year. Yeah.
He comes back and he's, you know, right back in the swing of things with

Speaker 21 Josh Allen. And

Speaker 21 it's like that sometimes, though, Joe. Alvin Harper had the same situation within Dallas.
Got big money to go to Tampa.

Speaker 22 Hey, Uncle Let me tell you something now. It's a different ballgame when you that one.

Speaker 22 If you really, let me, hey, if you're really not who you think you are and you don't have that supporting cast around you and you the main man, you can get exposed. You hear me? Hey,

Speaker 22 it get real iffy when you're number one, when you that number one guy.

Speaker 22 But

Speaker 21 another thing is that. What get iffy when you number two and they pay you to be number one and all of a sudden you have to be number one.

Speaker 21 That's what get iffy. It ain't.

Speaker 21 Because how many times we seen, and I ain't gonna call no name, but y'all know what you're talking about. He played with Pittsburgh, yeah, he's with AB.

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah, they let AB go. Hey, it's different.
Now, all of a sudden, all the attention is gonna be on you. Now, you get so now you get Ram.

Speaker 21 Now you get everybody's number one corner.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it's different.

Speaker 22 It's different.

Speaker 22 It's different.

Speaker 22 But offensively, for Keon Coleman,

Speaker 22 there is a space for you. There's a niche that you can do where you can add an explosive dynamic to where the bills don't have to march down the goddamn field over and over.

Speaker 22 Josh Allen doesn't have to play Superman and be accurate on every single throw on all the all the short and intermediate routes.

Speaker 22 You can add that special dynamic of explosive plays to help that offense out. So young bull, get yourself together, lock in, and let's finish this season off strong.

Speaker 21 Ain't a whole lot of defenses they're going to face that's the Houston Texans.

Speaker 22 It's only two others.

Speaker 22 It's only two others. The only two other defenses that are similar to that, that put up that type of production statistically defensively, is the Browns and the goddamn Broncos.

Speaker 21 That's it.

Speaker 21 That's it. And two of the three you might have to face in the playoffs.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 Now,

Speaker 21 I know the Colts are going to do everything they can to try to make sure they don't make the playoffs. Yeah.
Because if I get an opportunity, hey, I'm killing that with a sledgehammer.

Speaker 21 I'm going to make sure your ass don't get the playoffs because damn,

Speaker 21 I don't want you to knock me out.

Speaker 21 And they got two times. The Colts got to play.

Speaker 21 If I'm not mistaken, I think think the colts have to play the texans twice yeah uh in the final seven games go ahead and and the funny thing about it goddamn trojavius ward is coming back

Speaker 22 brother ward is coming back so now they got i mean they

Speaker 21 they got a good they got sauce ward shoot

Speaker 21 to come back though that's gonna be nice huh they need uh uh the colts need buck oh yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 21 they put him on ir huh yeah i think he i don't i don't know what i don't know if it was his shoulder i don't know what the injury was Ocho, but he's the key to that defense. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Because he's the guy, I mean, that can generate pressure inside a D-tackle that can be good against the run. He can, he can pass rush.
So he's going to be the key to that defense.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you won't ward. You're pairing with Sauce Gardner.
The offense, hey, you got Jonathan Taylor, who's in the MVP, Offensive Player of the Year running.

Speaker 21 They've got a nice offense. They got some

Speaker 21 Pierce and they got

Speaker 21 Pittman Jr.

Speaker 21 They got Warren. So they got good pieces offensively.
But boy, hey, this night, what the Texans put on tape tonight,

Speaker 21 that was a good old fashioned clinic.

Speaker 22 Not only was it an ass whooping, they put on a defensive clinic.

Speaker 22 Hey, again, Calen Bullock, boy, if you see this, boy, I salute you, boy.

Speaker 22 I salute you. Real deal.

Speaker 21 Will Anderson was like, Oprah, you get an ass whipping. whipping.
You get an ass whipping. You get an ass whipping.

Speaker 21 Hey, hey, I whipped ass over here. Who also?

Speaker 22 Matter of fact, you know what? I'm glad you just said that because not only is he going to get a payday,

Speaker 22 he's going to be the next defense in to reset the market.

Speaker 22 He's that good. He's that special.
He's playing.

Speaker 22 He's everything he was advertised to be coming out of Alabama.

Speaker 21 Yep.

Speaker 22 He's lived up to every bit of the hype. He's going to reset the market.

Speaker 21 He's special, young.

Speaker 21 They're going to have some decisions to make. CJ Stroud,

Speaker 21 A. He's his third.
A.

Speaker 21 Anderson.

Speaker 21 That's not a bad situation. I mean, look, they traded Deshaun.
See, that's what you do. If you move on from a player, you hit with those picks, CJ Anderson.
You look at what they got.

Speaker 21 I think Nico Collins was one of those picks. Hey, when you start, hey, oh, Joe, when you start like, okay, yeah, now we.

Speaker 22 But you also understand how difficult it is to make sure you hit.

Speaker 22 There have been other days.

Speaker 21 Not to hit all of them. They hit it at the park.
That's a grand slam.

Speaker 22 Every last pick turned out great. Turned out great.

Speaker 21 You got

Speaker 21 foundation pieces that you can have for the next decade.

Speaker 21 The next decade.

Speaker 21 But boy, the number they did on the Bills tonight, and the Bills are a very good offensive team. But they got their ass handed.
The O Line got their ass handed to them tonight.

Speaker 21 They got their ass handed to them. Cook ran the ball hard.

Speaker 21 I'm surprised that the success that they had running the football, they didn't run a little more. I mean, that ain't enough, Ocho.

Speaker 21 I mean, hold on. Y'all mean to see? Hold on.
Let me see what this

Speaker 22 wait in that second quarter when he

Speaker 21 had 17 rushes, 116 yards. So they had 24 carries for a buck 43.

Speaker 22 Most of that yard just came on that one long run.

Speaker 21 Yes, but

Speaker 21 he was getting five, six, seven yards a clear jump.

Speaker 21 Yeah. At some point in time, I have to come to the realization, yes, I want to throw the ball, but our offensive line getting their ass handed to him.

Speaker 22 Yeah, you're right. Well, listen, if your offensive line getting their ass whooped, the chances of running the ball are slim.

Speaker 21 But he, hey, no,

Speaker 21 he's running the ball. It was the pass sets that was.

Speaker 21 Because you got to realize they're jumping off the rock.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 21 They getting now. I will say this.

Speaker 21 I think D'Amico made one mistake. They had an ineligible man down the field and he declined it.
Bro, I'm not declining nothing forth in the one with Josh Allen. Oh.

Speaker 21 No, hell no. Back y'all ass up.
Because what did they do, Ocho? Go for it and get the first down.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 21 So

Speaker 21 you have to understand who that is over there.

Speaker 21 He's 6'5, 250. And he's going to do what he just did.
Hey, who, who? First down.

Speaker 22 Yeah, every time.

Speaker 21 But, man,

Speaker 21 they did an unbelievable job. The Houston Texans were 3-5 when they lost CJ Stroud to concussion protocol.
Davis Mill has done his job, Ocho. He's held the fourth down.

Speaker 21 Now, they're 3-0, getting ready to make this tough stretch.

Speaker 21 My tweet, my guy,

Speaker 21 man, sorry, I don't even know the ref's name, but it looks like he popped in the Keeleys.

Speaker 21 That's what it looked like. The ref.

Speaker 21 So now we got, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on now.

Speaker 22 We got players getting hurt,

Speaker 22 non-contact injuries.

Speaker 21 now we got the refs going down yeah and then my my college uh my college teammate uh stump we call him stump his name is roy ellison he was the center uh uh my freshman year he was a senior kind of took me under his wing and uh i was i was i talked to him from time to time but to see him step in and step up so now you ain't got no referee Because the umpire, Stump is an umpire.

Speaker 21 Right, right. He's refed in three Super Bowls.
He's an umpired in three Super Bowls. Now he goes to the referee slot.
Thought he did an unbelievable job. So you're a stump.

Speaker 21 I know you're going to see this. SSU.
We're proud, baby. College by the C.
Hey, you can't get anywhere from here. Hey,

Speaker 22 now that I think about it, hey, what you think of, hey, what you think about me being a referee in the NFL?

Speaker 21 You got to go through the steps.

Speaker 21 You're not going to go through the steps now. You're not going to ref high school football, then college football.
Because Stump went through, he started in high school football.

Speaker 21 Then he went to college football. And then my last year in the league.
Right, right.

Speaker 21 I was looking at the sheet because, you know, we get the big sheet on show and I'm looking, I'm like,

Speaker 21 looking at the rough, I was like, Roy Elliser. I said, I know a Roy Ellison.
Right, right, right. And it just happened to be him.
Yeah. I went to school with a Roy Elliser.

Speaker 21 So I'm running on the field. Sean.

Speaker 21 Sean.

Speaker 21 That's a star.

Speaker 21 Hey, hey,

Speaker 21 dog.

Speaker 22 Hey, hey, now that I think about it, you know, everybody's not made equal. You know, depending, it's all on who you know, you know, in life.
You know that, right?

Speaker 21 It's all about you.

Speaker 21 Even if you don't go to high school route, they're going to want you to go to collegiate route.

Speaker 22 Okay, so like PWI, I could be the referee, like an Alabama game, LA. I don't know who you are.

Speaker 21 I don't know, the referee, you probably got to start. Hello, oh, damn.
So you just want to start as the referee.

Speaker 21 Cause you do know a lot of these, these referees started out as something other than referees. Yeah, but line judge, back judge, side judge.

Speaker 21 But

Speaker 22 I don't think they, this me. This me.

Speaker 22 I played the game, you know, at the highest level.

Speaker 21 I mean, Ed Hockley's son,

Speaker 21 I don't know if he started out as a ref but he's a sean hockley you remember ed hockley got had his arms out right yeah yeah i remember

Speaker 21 his son his son is an official

Speaker 22 hey well i don't know why hey hey i could just see me out there in that ref man with the zero shirt with the whistle nah you can't you they're not gonna let you do it why because you flare you friends with too many guys in the nfl i i ain't friend with them not on the field they don't know that they can't

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Speaker 21 you don't mingle with too many of us hey holding number 64

Speaker 21 10 yard penalty replay second down

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Speaker 21 Oh, Joe, there was plenty of speculation to why the Cowboys star receiver CD Lamb and George Pickens were benched for the opening drive against the Raiders.

Speaker 21 CD confirmed the rumors that he and Pickens had been out past curfew having dinner and a few drinks at Red Rock Casino. Okay, right by the crib.
CD, you should have hit your boy off.

Speaker 21 I'd have came out with y'all.

Speaker 21 However, CD made sure to shoot down any claim that he was seen throwing up around 7:30 a.m. CD said such a claim was offensive to him because he knows how to hold his liquor.
Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 21 What's up oh he knew hey hey

Speaker 22 this is what they do to oh cho hey but shoot hey i'm gonna be honest with you boy i didn't i had not me personally but it was a lot of folk late during my time either i'm not one i ain't no snitch you know i ain't gonna do nothing nothing like that you know if if i'm ever in the chair i'm gonna just plead the fifth you know but i i've seen it happen now now it's a little bit different because we got cameras everywhere everywhere technology is a little different so when we played didn't didn't nobody know because there wasn't nobody to tell unless somebody close to you snitched on you.

Speaker 21 Yep.

Speaker 22 Or you told on yourself by actually showing up late. And most of the times it was kept in house.
Now, boy, everybody could see.

Speaker 21 Cause he got them camera phones. Oh, yeah.
Because even when you try to go out like, hey, can I get a picture? I said, no, I'm just right.

Speaker 22 Everybody going to know that.

Speaker 21 Yeah, somebody going to know. Cause you're going to post it.

Speaker 22 Hey, and if you don't give them a picture, they'll get mad and tweet. Guess who I just saw?

Speaker 21 He acted like an asshole,

Speaker 21 bro. How you ghost me? How you gave up my position?

Speaker 21 It's like, oh, Joe, it's like the guy that had went to the Airbnb and he left a negative rating.

Speaker 21 The guy that owned the Airbnb sent the photo of his wife to his wife of him going to the Airbnb with another woman. Well, that's real.
Yes.

Speaker 22 That wasn't no, that wasn't on Netflix show, or that's real life?

Speaker 21 Real life. Oh, hey, oh, hey, oh, he got to see.

Speaker 21 You got to see.

Speaker 21 He got to get these dumb dumbs. What? Yeah, man.

Speaker 22 Hey, you done messed up my marriage on the counter. It wasn't me, but it was you.

Speaker 21 No, hold on. You say you messed up my Airbnb.
Give me this bull job rating.

Speaker 21 Now people ain't going to want to come to my spot.

Speaker 22 Hey, that's the true meaning of an I for an eye.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 21 But Ocho, the thing is, if you in the wrong,

Speaker 21 why would you even do that? Why would you leave a negative rating?

Speaker 22 Right. Because for one, you didn't think he would, you would stoop that low.
You didn't think he was that.

Speaker 21 I mean, I'm thinking like most of these Airbnbs got cameras, right?

Speaker 21 Oh, they're a minimum. You can't handle camera.

Speaker 22 You can't handle camera in the Airbnb.

Speaker 21 At worst case, a ring camera.

Speaker 22 Oh, a ring camera, yes.

Speaker 21 Okay, yeah, you're right. So, you got so, how you gonna get in? Yeah,

Speaker 21 okay, you're right. So, with that,

Speaker 21 hey, that's the thing. But you see, hey, hey, Keon, you see the difference?

Speaker 21 CD and Pickens was outpass curfew, having a dinner and a few drinks. They missed a series.
You missed two games. There's levels.

Speaker 21 You're not at that level yet.

Speaker 22 Hey, Key, we're going to get you there, boy. Come holler at your boy in the offseason.
I'm telling you, boy, we're going to get you right. You hear me? Let's go.

Speaker 21 Ocho,

Speaker 21 me?

Speaker 21 Man, I'm sleepy. I'm tired.
Hey, my thing is, Ocho, when I, when, like,

Speaker 21 after we have a meeting, you know, we have our individual meetings. Then we have the team meeting.

Speaker 21 Mike going to play a video. He going to play the top plays from last week.
We're going to have a little music to it. And then, you know, he gonna give us our speech, what he expect, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 21 And then we go get, you know, a meal.

Speaker 21 Yeah. Ocho, I'm trying to go to bed.
I ain't, I, I ain't got it in me.

Speaker 22 Yeah, see, um, you a little different. You you old school, but you're you, you a little structured.
You got a little discipline when it, when, when it came to your approach.

Speaker 21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 22 they're a little bit more relaxed they're a little more relaxed you know i want to be out i want to enjoy myself i want to have a nice little meal you know okay see what's out there you know we in vegas you hear me

Speaker 21 i might i might have tried to shake the covers for dark yeah yeah

Speaker 21 hold on the day hold on no before a game

Speaker 21 nah

Speaker 22 i can't i can't do that huh okay listen my cutoff my cutoff was wednesday

Speaker 22 my cut off my cutoff was wednesday If I don't catch you between Sunday and Wednesday, oh no, I can't, I can't do nothing with you.

Speaker 22 I can't, I don't want no, I don't want no type of, I don't want no, no lactic acid bill up, I don't want no spaghetti legs.

Speaker 21 So you got, you got to get that work in between that, huh? My cut off with two hours for the game.

Speaker 21 How about cut off

Speaker 21 two hours for the game?

Speaker 22 But you ain't had no leg. You out there running with no legs.

Speaker 21 Nah, hey, nah, oh Joe. You see, you remember the movie Free Willie? Yeah.
How Willie came up out of that pool? Yeah. That's me.

Speaker 21 Free Willie.

Speaker 21 I have bleady legs.

Speaker 21 I think that's a misnomer.

Speaker 22 You think so?

Speaker 21 I think so.

Speaker 22 I don't know, boy. I don't know.

Speaker 22 Nah, I don't think so.

Speaker 21 I had a couple. I know for sure I had a couple of real big games, real, real, real big ones.

Speaker 22 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 21 I'm not, listen, I'm not.

Speaker 21 160, 160,

Speaker 21 180, 120, you know, 150 and a couple of took. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I don't know, maybe. Maybe I'm not even superstitious.

Speaker 22 I'm not even superstitious, but I just understand that feeling of horizontal activity and then finishing and having to stand up and oh shoot and just be a little wobbly, you know, not not not being in my right state of mind.

Speaker 22 But damn, the equilibrium must be off.

Speaker 21 Yeah,

Speaker 21 I don't play like that.

Speaker 21 I don't play like

Speaker 21 me either, Ocho. You see, you see the position I'll be.
I don't play like that either, Joe.

Speaker 21 But man, nah, but in all seriousness, though, Joe, I'm like, man,

Speaker 21 in today's time, like you say, the technology, the way it is,

Speaker 21 somebody sees you. It's just hard.

Speaker 21 It's hard to get away.

Speaker 21 CD and them owned it. Hey, Jerry going to tell Pickers to go out anytime he wants to after that performance because Jared said that's one of the best performers he's seen.

Speaker 22 Matter of fact, with the way they playing in general, as a 1A and 1B, man, y'all go ahead and do what you need to do. Do what you need to do.

Speaker 22 You know, as long as you show up the way you've been showing up on the field, oh, man, we good.

Speaker 21 Hey, we good. Just don't, hey, just, hey, just, hey, just don't let nobody see y'all.
Don't let nobody see y'all going out. Yeah, that's it.
That's it.

Speaker 22 And when you come in, coming, and when you come in, coming through the back, though.

Speaker 21 George Pickens hopes his first season is not his last. Pickens said, I love to be back, especially with CD and Dak,

Speaker 21 all the guys, really. Pickens is the fourth and final year of his rookie contract that he signed with the Steelers at the second round in 2022.

Speaker 21 He's scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent in March

Speaker 21 of March. Pickens has 908 receiving yards through 10 games, the most through the first 10 games of a player's tenure in Dallas franchise history.

Speaker 21 He's second in receiving yards. Ocho,

Speaker 21 you know, I know you want pick to chase the bag. Would you be content

Speaker 21 if Pick stayed in Dallas? Man, Man, listen, hold on.

Speaker 22 I'm going to talk about these stats real quick. Now, I want people to understand

Speaker 22 and understand how special George Pickens is, right? George Pickens is second in receiving yards, 908. Uncle, he only got 58 catches.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 22 He only got 58 catches, man. So that's letting you know he's doing more with less.
You know, so let's start there. Now, George Pickens coming back to Dallas.

Speaker 22 I like the idea. I like the idea, right? You know, Pickens,

Speaker 22 CeeDee Lamb,

Speaker 22 Dak Prescott. We understand how special, especially with them having a year removed, going into a second year, on how special they can be offensively.
But I understand Dak has to get done again.

Speaker 22 I understand that.

Speaker 21 I understand that.

Speaker 21 They'll do Dak again. They're not going to let Dak know.
I think Dak number is damn near like $70, $75 million cap here.

Speaker 21 so they'll they'll redo dak again right uh but probably give him another four-year deal five-year deal making like 300 million dollars and they'll give him you know at the time of signing they'll give him a hundred million dollars and he'll get he'll get

Speaker 22 i mean he got guaranteed right now 229 million so he'll get another deal probably 250 million guaranteed but it is is is dak willing to take less to make sure george piggins gets what he deserves to make sure he get close to his value because he's not going to get anywhere near close to his value if he stays in Dallas.

Speaker 22 I would love for him to stay in Dallas. He would be great there offensively in what he can do based on what he's putting on display right now.
I love it. I love the idea.

Speaker 22 I just understand when it comes to getting your first contract, your first big contract, most of the time,

Speaker 22 unless you that guy, like that guy guy, they've already paid CeeDee Lamb. Yeah.

Speaker 22 You know, so based on where he is right now, he would supposed to be, if he was elsewhere, he would overlap cd lamb's contracts correct he would overlap it but he won't be able to do and get his true value because he's staying in dallas so does he want to take a discount and say you know what i'm gonna stay here i'm gonna take less to stay here in dallas and be productive here or do i want to go somewhere else now whatever he chooses to do that that's on him but i'm gonna have a conversation with David Mullingetta and we're gonna sit down and we're gonna talk and we're gonna see what type of plan we're gonna put together pick and see what's best for him for our foreseeable future.

Speaker 22 Now, Dallas Cowboys fans, I love y'all. I love what Pick brings to the table, but don't be selfish.
Don't be selfish. You should want what's best for Pick too.

Speaker 22 Yes, being with the Dallas Cowboys, that's what you want because you're a Dallas Cowboy fan. But what's best for George Pickens,

Speaker 22 his family, and his long term.

Speaker 22 Let's think about him long term, you know, and being able to set up not just his kids, but his grandkids kids you know now if he can get that down in Dallas I'm all for it

Speaker 21 I think the thing is oh Joe they they you know

Speaker 21 they do they redo that

Speaker 21 that'll take that'll take 30 million off the cap right there

Speaker 21 to make his cap to bring his cap number down yeah they'll probably do something restructure

Speaker 21 give CDs money and a signing bonus yeah that'll take more money off the cap okay now we talking so

Speaker 21 I think I could I see him getting a deal somewhere?

Speaker 21 Five years,

Speaker 21 180 million.

Speaker 22 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Okay, okay, okay. We cooking.
Okay, we cooking.

Speaker 21 I can see.

Speaker 22 We cooking. Now the problem is, now see, we thinking sensible.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Me and you thinking sensible. The chat, they thinking sensible, especially.
any Cowboys fans that's in the chat, you know, I love y'all too. I love y'all.

Speaker 22 Don't think I'm hating. I love y'all.
But,

Speaker 22 and Jerry gonna think sensible.

Speaker 21 Yeah,

Speaker 22 is he gonna think sensible? Now, we know how Jerry Jones is when it comes to when it's time to pay.

Speaker 22 You understand that? Now, is George Pink gonna have the patience to deal with that bullshit Jerry liked to do, making you wait to the last goddamn minute?

Speaker 21 I don't know.

Speaker 22 We understand the issues that Jerry Jones has had with David Mulaguetta in the past. Yeah.
Is he gonna have the patience to want to deal with the bull drive that Jerry gonna put him through? So

Speaker 22 there's other dynamics that come into play, you know.

Speaker 22 What Munugetta might want to tell Pick, man, listen, we ain't got time for this shit. Oh, my bad.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 21 We ain't got time for this. I think

Speaker 21 because Pick got an edge to him. Yeah.

Speaker 21 I think Pick has a lot of on the feel and how he goes about his business on the field. Yeah.
He has a lot of Michael Urban in him. Yeah.
We know what Jerry thought of Michael. Yes, sir.

Speaker 21 What he thinks of Michael. So I think he would probably lean towards probably getting something done

Speaker 21 that's going to everybody, because he realized now

Speaker 21 he traded for Mingo. Mingo ain't seen the field yet.
Yeah. This year, I think he's been a healthy scratch the last couple of times.

Speaker 21 Remember, they traded a fourth round pick from Carolina to get Mingo.

Speaker 21 He's finally got a guy. He's finally got a guy.
Yeah. That's comparable to CD.
It's hard to get a guy comparable to your number one.

Speaker 21 He can fight him tooth and nail. Big, great, great hands, make tough catches, tremendous run after the catch.
Very good.

Speaker 21 Big, big, big body receiver.

Speaker 21 Jerry realized those guys don't grow on trees.

Speaker 22 Absolutely not.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 21 we got him in our home. The best thing to do when you got him in your home, Mocho, is what?

Speaker 22 Don't let him leave. Don't let him leave.

Speaker 21 Don't let him leave. He's on pace for 99 receptions, 1,544 yards and 12 touchdowns.

Speaker 21 Dak is the only team in the NFL this season to have featured top five player in passing, rushing, and receiving yards. Dak is fifth in passing yards.
Javante Williams is fifth in rushing yards.

Speaker 21 Pick is second in receiving yards.

Speaker 21 Man.

Speaker 21 So think about all the offense they got and look where they are because why? The defense. Yeah.
Defense got to pick it up.

Speaker 21 Now we'll see. We'll see if they can replicate what they did.
They got the Eagles. We'll see if they can replicate what they did.

Speaker 21 they were not made to they they let michael parsons they traded michael parsons to get uh kenneth kenny clark yeah and quinny williams that's what a said look we got to stop the run

Speaker 21 clark is more of a run stuffer quinney williams can play the run but he's more of a pass rushing dt yeah

Speaker 21 You got Clowney, you got Fowler, you got Williams, you got some guys that you got a Digazua that you paid a lot of money to. He's still there.
So we're going to see.

Speaker 21 We're going to see.

Speaker 21 The Eagles,

Speaker 21 we're gonna, we're gonna see what the Eagles, we're gonna see

Speaker 21 what the Eagles because they're gonna, you're gonna need to establish the run. You're on the road, yeah.

Speaker 21 See if Saquon can get loose. Looks like Lane Johnson is gonna be out, they're gonna have their backup in there.
We'll see. He says, Hey, I want to make a name for myself.

Speaker 21 Lane Johnson is Edge and Stone. He is what he is, one of the great linemen in history.

Speaker 21 Now it's my time to get an opportunity to show you what I'm capable of. So, it's going to be very, very interesting.
But,

Speaker 21 everything.

Speaker 21 i i don't know what jerry thought he was gonna be when he traded for him but he had to be he has to have been everything that jerry had hoped for and more absolutely

Speaker 21 uh

Speaker 21 uh

Speaker 21 was there ever a great a teammate that you fought to keep on the team

Speaker 22 man tj man who's I mean that you know, I hate the dirty side of the business, but you know, it is a business. I wanted who should stay.

Speaker 22 I thought that

Speaker 22 chemistry we had and being from Oregon State and going from Oregon State, being drafted to the Bengals. I mean, I wanted that continuity to stay throughout the entirety of my career.

Speaker 22 But obviously, things didn't go that way. I mean, that's about the only person.

Speaker 22 That's about the only person.

Speaker 21 Yeah, they didn't really ask me.

Speaker 21 They didn't really ask me.

Speaker 21 I mean, as I got older, I think once I went there

Speaker 21 and came back, I think Mike value my opinion on what I thought of certain guys. But for me, hey, you make your own decision today.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 I'm going home. And if guess what? And when I come back in the spring for OTAs, and they ain't here,

Speaker 21 I guess they moved on. Right.

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