Nightcap Hour 1: Lane Kiffin’s DECISION: LSU or Florida?! + Arch Manning BIG PERFORMANCE + Diego Pavia SHINES in win over Kentucky + Notre Dame HANGS 70 on Syracuse

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Speaker 16 Also, running back, Kevin Riley joins us a little later, if I'm not mistaken. I think he scored a couple of touchdowns today.

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Speaker 16 The number 20 Tennessee Volunteers dominate the Florida Gators. They go into the swamp, win for the very first time since 2003, when retired coach Urban Meyer was watching from the Florida sideline.

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Speaker 16 Valley scored touchdowns on their first four possessions and led 31-0 at halftime, easily their most dominant 30 minutes of the football against Florida since the 1990.

Speaker 16 They outgained the Gators 323 to 110 in the opening half, had 19 first downs.

Speaker 16 Oh,

Speaker 16 yeah. I mean, look, we know Florida's gonna have already fired the coach.
They're gonna have a new head coach. Yes.
LSU is gonna have a new head coach. Yes.

Speaker 16 Now, you know, you hear rumors saying like Lane Kiffen is kind of leaning towards LSU. We don't know.
They threw out $90 million plus another $20, $25 million in the roster.

Speaker 16 Does the Florida Gator hopes pin whether or not Lane Kiffens takes this job or is there someone else can come in

Speaker 16 and make Florida what we know Florida to be, what they've been for a very, very long time? Can it get them, can somebody, who can come in and get them back to respectability?

Speaker 22 You know what? I have no idea. I think Lane Kiffen would have been a great coach.
He could have got recruits in there, some five-stars, some actual players.

Speaker 22 But I think the offer that we've seen, I saw it on Twitter as well with 90 million being offered to Lane Kiffen with 25 million for the roster. As far as being able to bring kids in,

Speaker 22 I think he's already locked up. Now, as far as a coach that can be also attracted, just not the Gators, but also players coming in high school, players

Speaker 22 that hit the portal,

Speaker 22 that want to come to Florida and play. I'm not sure who that coach is.
I'm not sure who it is at all. I think Florida right now, they're in a tough spot.

Speaker 22 They didn't play well.

Speaker 22 Forget the day. They had

Speaker 22 some good games throughout the season, but they're nothing like the Florida Gators of old, where they would always be able to compete against the best of the best week in and week out.

Speaker 22 I think that Florida Gator team or teams like that are long gone.

Speaker 16 Three SEC schools have their sights set on Lane Kippen. Obviously, the school that he's currently at, the old miss, Florida Gators and the LSU Tigers.

Speaker 16 Kiffen's former boss, Nick Sabin, spoke passionately about universities competing for Kiffen's services before the season is even over.

Speaker 16 Coach Sabin said, we need to take a better approach to the business aspect of what we do in college athletics. In the NFL, you cannot leave your team until the season is finished playing.

Speaker 16 You can't talk to another coach in the regular season. And there are defined times in which you can talk to them if they're in the playoffs.
That's the way it should be.

Speaker 16 So it's not a Lane-Kiffin conundrum.

Speaker 16 This is a college football conundrum that we need some leadership to step up and change the rules on how it gets done in terms of coaching searches and opportunities for people to leave.

Speaker 16 That's the way it should be, regardless of what Lane decides to do.

Speaker 16 LSU is reported to offer Kiffin a $90 million contract, which would tie him as the highest paid coach in the sport alongside promising $25 million in related roster investments, exceeding $25 million.

Speaker 16 Excuse me. Kiffin is expected to announce his future after next week's rivalry game against the Mississippi State Bulldogs, which we currently know as the Egg Bowl.

Speaker 16 Ocho, do you agree with Coach Sabin that there needs to be some uniformity about when these coaches, when other universities can talk to coaches and when coaches can actually leave because as he mentioned we've seen it before most notably that's done it before yes is brian kelly yeah we saw him leave cincinnati and go to notre dame

Speaker 16 we see him and so we see this this is not the first time that it's happened and as coach saban says you know a lot of times if a player gets hurt it whether it decides whether or not they get to go to a ball game right or the type of ball game that they go to.

Speaker 16 We saw this happen with Florida State last year. they got the brakes beat off them but lane kiffen leaving before old miss

Speaker 22 they might be very very reluctant to have them play in the college football playoff ocho if your head coach leaving and you have an interim head coach so what where are you on this yeah i don't i don't i don't think i don't think it really affects him whether whether lane kiffin leaves or not but let's let's go back to protocol and the way business the way business should be handled when it comes to other other organizations or entities talking to coaches, especially in this situation, Lane Kiffen while he's still an old miss if a coach is if a coach is playing bad and his team is losing right is there business and protocol or what's that word

Speaker 22 conundrum yeah that's new for me i'm gonna write that one down in my notes conundrum okay is that conundrum before he gets fired doesn't he get fired right on the spot or do they do they handle the business and wait till the season over to let him go

Speaker 16 they fire him during the season okay there we go there we go so you believe you should be able you should be able to like obviously the coaches are not leaving during the season no but you believe like once the season is over right

Speaker 16 not be able to coach in the bowl game because it's like an NFL. The NFL, they can fire you, but you can't talk to a coach.
Another coach can't leave and say, you know what, my season is over.

Speaker 16 Let me go. Because they changed that rule.
Remember, Lane Kipping was the offensive coordinator at the Rams. The Rams were out of the playoffs.
He ends up going back coaching for the Patriots.

Speaker 16 So they changed that rule now. So once everybody's season is over, you can't have a coach go help with the offense or defense or be a special assistant if he had another job.

Speaker 16 With that being said, the NFL, NFL, Ocho, you know, if a coach, we saw this with

Speaker 16 AG, Aaron Glenn, we saw Ben Johnson, we saw a lot of different coaches get head coaching jobs that was OC or DCs, but they weren't able to leave those jobs until their team season was finished.

Speaker 16 They kept like, oh, well, I'm a head coach of a new team. Now, damn, y'all, the playoffs, I'd be damn, I got to go get ready for my new team.

Speaker 16 So you believe, well, if they fire a coach during the season, that once the season is over, that coach should be able to leave his post, we a head coach or offensive coordinator and go coach at another school.

Speaker 22 Listen, when you get fired, you got to leave ASAP, don't you? You got to pack your things. You got to get your U-Haul and you got to get up out of there.

Speaker 22 Now, I think with Lane Kippen's situation at Ole Miss, I think he's going to finish the season.

Speaker 22 Now, conversations can be had with whatever program you want to so you understand what the foreseeable future is going to look like and where you want to go.

Speaker 22 So you can get a head start in preparing on where you're going to go and still be able to finish your season at Ole Miss, do the Egg Bowl.

Speaker 22 And if just so happened, if you guys make the playoffs, if it does happen and still be able to coach yourself through that, and then obviously the next season, when it follows through, hey, you got six goddamn months.

Speaker 22 You got six months to prepare for that, do all the contractual stuff that needs to be done, and it's over with. And it also lets players know that might have been coming to Ole Miss.

Speaker 22 Now you have an opportunity to transfer, get in the portal, and come on down to the LSU if that is

Speaker 22 his destination place.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I definitely think they need some uniformity. I think they need to have a window in which a guy, which

Speaker 16 collegiate teams or coaches can talk to other players about entering the portal, have an opportunity once the portal open and be done with it.

Speaker 16 I think eventually, OJO,

Speaker 16 they're going to do away with spring games. Yes.
Because

Speaker 16 I'm not going to let you get a look at my players. So you open up the window, the window opens up, and the player wants to leave.
He wants to leave.

Speaker 16 And we'll move on from there. It's just tough because for the longest time, NCAA has

Speaker 16 monopolized the situation. And once they did away, once we kind of got this NIL program,

Speaker 16 it became the kind of the wild, wild west, Ocho. And so there are really no rules and regulations.
And I think you got to have some rules and regulations. You just can't have arbitrary.

Speaker 16 And it's got to be a situation, OJo. You can't have a guy.
Well, you know what? I got a million dollars to go to Florida. Man, Florida ain't doing right.
Hey, Arkansas, Georgia.

Speaker 16 Somebody's, what y'all got?

Speaker 16 yeah he leaves there he goes there man y'all some bull job over here too and just jump jump jump jump i i don't think i don't think a player should be able to do that Whoa, wait a minute.

Speaker 22 No, that's not fair. Don't do that.
Don't regulate us now. Now that we have the opportunity and the rabbit got the gun, that's not fair.

Speaker 22 Listen, there were no rules and regulations when these schools were monopolizing and making all this money off these players' likeness.

Speaker 22 Now, all of a sudden, the players have opportunity to cut the middleman out. And now we get to get some money, you know, for our likes and be able to hop from school to school.

Speaker 22 And coaches have been able to hop from school to school when they want to. Now, all of a sudden, you want to regulate, regulate.

Speaker 16 Coaches ain't jumping every year, Ocho. Huh? Coaches, they jumping every year.

Speaker 22 I mean, even if even they, hey, listen.

Speaker 16 And it's got to the point now, Ocho. It's just hard.
These guys, the players have gotten so sensitive. Ocho, if I coach you hard, I got to worry about you jumping in the portal.

Speaker 22 Hey, but listen, matter of fact, let me tell you something.

Speaker 22 The ones that's like that, the one that jumping in the portal back and forth, back and forth, and it can't be coached hard, they really ain't like that anyway, huh?

Speaker 16 But if I go get money somewhere else, why wouldn't it?

Speaker 22 They really not the one.

Speaker 22 they for one those are not the ones that's going to make it to the next level anyway if you hopping from portal to portal for for for whatever the issues may be oh my coaching coaching me too hard or i'm not getting an opportunity to play unless you're that guy it doesn't matter anyway they're not going to impact your team whether they stay or go think about it just think about all the good all the really really really good players they hop in the portal for an opportunity to actually start and showcase their talent Okay, so let me, so now I get there, I get some money, and things don't go as well as I hoped to.

Speaker 16 Now you just up and go leave again. Because you know, it's just like a player, Ocho.
You get drafted in the first round.

Speaker 16 Even if you some slaw, you're going to get opportunities because that was not the only team that had you graded in the first round. So somebody else is going to give you an opportunity.

Speaker 16 You know, the higher you drafted, the more opportunities you're going to get. Yes.

Speaker 16 So a guy comes out and he's a five-star, even if he goes to a university and they give him, let's just say, a half a million dollars. We don't got to talk about anything astronomical.

Speaker 16 Let's just say he gets a half a million dollars. Ocho, even if it doesn't work out there, somebody's going to give him some money to jump into the portal because he was a five-star.

Speaker 16 And they're not a five-star that just has one offer. If you're a five-star, you got multiple offers.

Speaker 16 And there are a lot of times there are probably 10, 15 big-time schools, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Tennessee, so forth and so on. So those opportunities will present themselves.

Speaker 16 I just think we've got,

Speaker 16 there used to be no speed limit.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 16 But at some point in time, we have to have rules and regulations. And no matter what the case is, there used to be no rules or regulations on banking or mining or anything like that.

Speaker 16 I just think you're asking for trouble as long as you don't have rules and regulations. I think some point in time you have to put rules and regulations in.

Speaker 22 But there's no trouble in that. If a player wants to leave, he should be able to leave.

Speaker 22 You shouldn't be able to regulate that.

Speaker 22 That doesn't make any sense. It's like if you're in school, let's say no money's involved.
And you're in school, hell, I go to Famu.

Speaker 22 You you know what i want to leave fam you i want to go to bthoon cookman you know what i don't like it here you know what i want to go to howard you should be able to hop and bounce as you see fit

Speaker 22 now how about this how about the new hello you just gonna have to hey you just got to pay my money back bingo i would why would they just get me to say that you want to have approves of regulations hey if i choose to leave a percentage of that money a

Speaker 22 percentage of that nil money has to go back okay okay how about that now that that makes a little bit more sense but restricting

Speaker 16 you guys ain't gonna want to leave because i ain't tried to get get, oh, you're ain't tried to get you no refund. Right, right.
Yeah, you're right. Because

Speaker 16 it's kind of like rent. Well, if I stay past the due date, you're going to have to pro so you're going to have to prorate it by the time you, whoa, whoa, but I'm leaving on the 10th.
Right.

Speaker 16 You mean to tell me I got to pay a full month's rent and I ain't there for 10 days? Exactly. Yep.
Because you didn't get your ass out on the first.

Speaker 16 So it's.

Speaker 16 Excuse me.

Speaker 16 It's going to be tough because, Ocho, like you said, once we get accustomed to something, it's hard to get us uncustomed to that. Yes.

Speaker 16 Because for the most part, once the NIL hit, it was just like a free-for-all.

Speaker 16 Now, all of a sudden, you're going to put some caps on it. Like, hold on.

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Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 I don't think I'm going to be able to ride along with that. So it's going to be very interesting because you know, you know, I know it's coming.

Speaker 16 They're not finna just let, just let guys just arbitrarily just get five, six, seven million dollars. And you know what?

Speaker 22 Wait, oh, wait, oh, oh, oh, it's only a few of them, huh? It's only about two or three of them.

Speaker 16 So it's not like all of them are getting that now you know the the the players that's getting that kind of money the jeremiah smiths the arch mannings we talk about the best of the best everybody ain't eating like that no but i'm saying they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna put a cap um because here's the thing oh you do realize like once a guy starts getting paid i i get to treat him as such you show up late for meeting i fine you you miss weight i find you

Speaker 16 You know, you late for birth, you curfew, study hall, I find you.

Speaker 16 Because theoretically, although you're a collegiate athlete, an amateur athlete you're getting paid so now you're a professional so i have to treat you as such because that's what would happen if you're in the nfl if you're late for a meeting you miss a meeting you're late to practice you miss practice right or a team scheduled function you miss that or you're late to that you get fine you have to be under the same guidelines Because for the longest time, Ocho, we've forgiven.

Speaker 16 It's like, oh man, these are kids. These are college kids.
I mean,

Speaker 16 they were making a little money, Ocho. You know, they make a little hush on the side.
But it wasn't like what it is now. These guys are making $50,000,

Speaker 16 200,000, 34, 5 million. So, I think the thing is, is that we've kind of taken, we're kind of taking the reins off, Ocho, and

Speaker 16 we judge these kids a little harsher now than what we did, say, when we were in school or the last, say, last 10 years.

Speaker 16 Now, we don't look at these kids like, bro, he's making money. Jeremiah Smith making $4 million a year.
There's some receivers in the NFL that don't make $4 million a year.

Speaker 22 And those receivers that don't make $40 million in the NFL, they ain't Jeremiah Smith either.

Speaker 16 Hey, listen, he makes that for a reason.

Speaker 16 Normally,

Speaker 16 you would expect a professional to make more than an amateur.

Speaker 16 I mean, you would, wouldn't you? Can I tell you something?

Speaker 16 If that's the case, who would want to be a pro? Why not just stay an amateur?

Speaker 22 Let me tell you something. There's a reason he makes the $4 million he makes.
Even those that are already in the NFL, they don't look like him.

Speaker 16 It all comes down to... Wait, let me finish.

Speaker 16 Let me see. He don't make $4 million.
He makes a million. How he looking?

Speaker 22 Hold on.

Speaker 16 Oh, he's looking real good right now. He's looking real good.

Speaker 22 and it's also about timing it's all it's also about timing you know when nil happened so it's it's it's kind of it's kind of different did you not see him in the rose bowl did you not see jackson smith hey i'm sure he got something it wasn't no

Speaker 16 that might have been the greatest receiver performance uh

Speaker 16 i saw this guy uh he was at louisiana i forget he ended up going to the steelers he end up having 400 yards the short the short the short guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it didn't work out for him in the nfl yeah but he had him a day against Nebraska.

Speaker 16 I agree with you.

Speaker 16 It's just tough, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 16 It's, you know, I think the thing is that we look at free agency and we look at baseball, we look at basketball, we say, okay, that's free agency.

Speaker 16 A pitcher can make 50 million, 70 million dollars a year. A first baseman can work, make whatever.
It's not slotted.

Speaker 16 Well, quarterbacks make this, running backs make this, and wide receivers make that. And then you got a cap.
Well, that's theoretically, that's not free agency. If

Speaker 16 the market should bear, should set what a player can make.

Speaker 16 In college, the market sets it. It ain't no,

Speaker 16 you can't say, well, Jeremiah, man, you all the receiver. You can't get no four million.
You can't get it. Wait a minute.

Speaker 16 No,

Speaker 22 I don't think it's the market. The market doesn't set it.
The actual player sets it.

Speaker 16 No, no, but

Speaker 16 in the NFL,

Speaker 16 we don't have a market because there's no free agency. See, free agency, I got to be totally free with no restrictions, no salary cap over here, no this or that.
You can't franchise me.

Speaker 16 You don't have no right of first refusal. Hey, my time is up.
Oh, Joe, you work a regular job. Your contract in.
I'm free to go. If I'm at Google, I'm free to go work for Apple.
Okay, I got it.

Speaker 16 I'm free to go work for Microsoft.

Speaker 16 That's, in my estimation, that's how it should be. I ain't got no problem.
It's free market. Hey, I got a product to sell.
You know what, Ojo? I got this phone to sell.

Speaker 16 You shouldn't be able to say, well, I can only sell this phone for $500.

Speaker 16 That ain't free. That ain't no free market.
I should be able to, if I want to sell this phone for $10,000, I should be able to do it.

Speaker 16 If the market would bear that, if there are people out there to pay it,

Speaker 16 so be it.

Speaker 22 Yeah. I mean, I got you.
I got you.

Speaker 22 I kind of like how it is where it's free-flowing.

Speaker 22 You know, players can actually choose and do what they want to do because for so many years, wasn't nobody saying that when all these universities were making googabs, billions off these players like this.

Speaker 22 And now that they get the opportunity to take advantage, you know, not really take advantage, but get what they're owed based off their likeness and their skill set,

Speaker 22 I think they should have free reign to do so.

Speaker 16 Yeah. I mean, look at all the

Speaker 16 great players that came before. And yeah, Ocho, they got a little couple of bucks on the side here or there.

Speaker 22 Oh, it ain't nothing like now.

Speaker 16 They got a little car here. They got some jewelry there.
But they ain't getting no money like what these kids making now. And I ain't even mad at them.

Speaker 16 Because you look at a guy like Arch Manning, Arch Manning going to be in a hat. He's going to be unstashed about $12 million by the time he gets to the NFL.

Speaker 22 And the funny thing about it, look at all the stories. Look at all the horror stories we've heard where collegiate athletes get in trouble because they're hungry, taking clothes, stealing stuff.

Speaker 22 Just food, not having to be able to eat.

Speaker 22 It's been too much. Too many have gotten in trouble.

Speaker 22 So now they have an opportunity to be able to fend for themselves, take care of their families a little earlier than normal, not having to wait on the NFL check.

Speaker 22 I think just

Speaker 22 let it be. Let it be.

Speaker 16 No,

Speaker 16 they're going to put some rules. They're going to put some rules in place.
Because right now, there's not a whole lot of rules. Even the NCA even went to Congress and tried to say, look,

Speaker 16 we got to have something about it.

Speaker 16 And I agree with Coach Saber. The coaches, once your season is officially open, I don't believe you should not.
So now, guy Lane Kierke, let's just say he gets to

Speaker 16 coach. He takes this job after the Egg Bowl.
He's supposed to coach in the SEC championship. He's like, nah, I ain't going to coach.
I'm going to go on down here to my team.

Speaker 16 Or he gets an opportunity to go play into college football. football.
Nah.

Speaker 22 No one knows.

Speaker 16 Hold on. I'll give you a prime example.
Coach Schimbeckler. You remember

Speaker 16 who was the guy that left?

Speaker 16 They were going to NCAA tournament. Right.
And the guy had accepted another job. And Bo Schimbecker said, nah, he ain't going to stay.
We want a Michigan man.

Speaker 16 I think it was Fisher that ended up getting the interim job

Speaker 16 and coaching. And they ended up winning the national championship in 1989.
But Bo Schimbecker said, nah, nah, you go ahead and go where you're going to go.

Speaker 16 You don't need you to wait here because I want a Michigan man to coach a Michigan team, not somebody that's at Michigan right now, but he's already accepted the job and gonna be somewhere the moment that season's over.

Speaker 16 I don't think he end up winning a championship.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I don't think Lane will do that. I think he's gonna finish the task at hand.
He's gonna finish the assignment. You know, he started the season.

Speaker 16 Ole Miss is hoping. Huh? Ole Miss is hoping that he does that.

Speaker 16 Think about it.

Speaker 22 I say he finished. He's gonna finish.
I didn't say he was staying.

Speaker 16 No, no, no.

Speaker 16 I'm saying they're hoping that he does yeah he does what you said he's gonna do yeah if they get an opportunity they're fortunate enough to play in the sec title or if they get a college football playoff birth hopefully they because old miss i mean when you think of old miss and you think like okay when's the next time they're gonna get an opportunity to play in a college football playoff yeah

Speaker 16 I mean, since Lane, they've gotten guys that go into the NFL and got playing at a high level. So, you know, sometimes this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Speaker 16 Hopefully, you're right that he gets this

Speaker 16 because I believe he's gone.

Speaker 16 It's just that these other programs can offer what Ole Miss can't.

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 16 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 22 You're right. I mean, shoot.
I mean, who would stay?

Speaker 22 Who would stay with the numbers that we saw today?

Speaker 16 That's a lot of money, Ojo. That's a lot of money.
Yeah,

Speaker 16 that's a lot of money.

Speaker 16 And maybe Ole Miss could, you know, give him, I don't know, how many, what is it, a nine, what is it, eight-year deal? How many years is the deal?

Speaker 16 The LZO. Yeah.

Speaker 16 It's 90 million. Is it 10 years? That's 9 million a year.
Is it 8 years? 11 and a half a year? I mean, what's the deal? I think Kirby makes like 13.

Speaker 16 Seven years. Wow.

Speaker 16 So that's about, that's Kirby. That's

Speaker 16 13

Speaker 16 numbers. That's Kirby's number.

Speaker 22 Hey.

Speaker 16 It's just hard, OJo. It's just hard to turn that kind of money down.
Yeah. And it's not, because all those programs that he's done a great job of building.

Speaker 16 Oh, it's 14, Ocho. So it's 98 million.

Speaker 16 Oh, seven years, 98 million. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 Because it's hard, Ocho, it's hard. Now, if that's a preeminent program, let's just say that's Ohio State.
Right. That's Notre Dame.
That's Alabama. That's Michigan.
That's USC. Right.
We get it.

Speaker 16 Him staying if they match it. Oh, Miss is not the same tier as Florida.
In the same conference, but it's not the same tier as Ohio. LSU.
It's not Georgia. It's not Alabama.
It's not Florida.

Speaker 16 It's not LSU. It's not Texas.
It's not Oklahoma. It's just not.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 I mean, it's true.

Speaker 16 And so, man, it'd be hard to turn that kind of money down.

Speaker 22 Man, turn that down, man. Please.
Listen, Lane Kiffy get there, man.

Speaker 22 He gets there. You understand the type of players he can get.
He can attract. you know, those people jumping in the portal.
There's a good chance they might look like they did back in 2019.

Speaker 22 I'm not saying they're gonna have a Joe Burrow. I'm not saying they're gonna have a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson, but they can get back to that.

Speaker 22 If he can turn the old miss around the way he did, he could damn sure turn LSU around.

Speaker 16 We saw what he did at Alabama

Speaker 16 when he had Amari Cooper and he had those guys. So just imagine him getting a tier, a little notch, more four or five stars, bigger guy from the portal with the way he can call plays offensively.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 You can say what you want to say. You can say he's arrogant and all that other stuff, But there ain't no denying that he can call, he's one of the great minds in college football.
And I don't know.

Speaker 16 He's been to Tennessee. He's been to Old Miss.
Now he's coached at Alabama. Now he's about to be at LSU, seemingly.

Speaker 16 All arrows are pointing in that direction.

Speaker 16 So 14 million, Ocho. I don't know, Ocho.

Speaker 22 What's up? Oh, so you thinking about coaching now, huh? You see what I told you?

Speaker 16 Think about it. Think about it.
So I can't be on the road, but listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 22 Head coach, head coach sharp. What you can't be on the road because what?

Speaker 16 Back bad.

Speaker 22 Okay, but listen, you just coach the home games. No problem.
Ain't no problem. You just coach the home games.
I'll be your assistant head coach, and I take over the games on the road.

Speaker 16 Boom. Problem solved.

Speaker 16 Huh?

Speaker 22 Hey, you know, hey, El, can I tell you something?

Speaker 22 Can I tell you something?

Speaker 16 What that?

Speaker 22 I just heard, right, a little birdie. Now, I'm not sure.

Speaker 22 When you see stuff like this, most of the time, if they're smoked there's a fire somewhere that the head coach the head coaching job is going to be available down there at fam you now i mean what you think about me and you going down to fam you moving moving to tallahassee you can coach all the games at home all the games on the road i take over think about all the players we can get in the portal to come on down there to tallahassee Why would I go coach?

Speaker 16 Why would I go coach another HBCU school and my HBCU school?

Speaker 22 Because your HBCU don't got the kind of money we got down there.

Speaker 16 Well, it wouldn't wouldn't be about the money. For me,

Speaker 16 the hell it don't. The devil

Speaker 16 Savannah State to do well. If any orange team, any team that got orange in their uniform at an HBC, you do well, it's damn sure going to be.

Speaker 22 Now you heard that lie you just told. It's a good thing it ain't Sunday.
Tell about it ain't about the money. The hell it ain't.

Speaker 22 If it wasn't about the money, Lane Kipper would be staying right in goddamn old miss.

Speaker 16 Oh, Joe, I'm saying it's not about the money for me. Ocho, you going to an ocho, you going to an HBCU.
They not finna pay you no 14 million. You not even get a payment.

Speaker 22 Slim it down. Slim it down.
Slim it down. You don't know what we got.

Speaker 22 You don't know what we got.

Speaker 16 Probably the highest paid HBCU coach probably makes $300,000 to $400,000.

Speaker 22 Hey, Uncle, let me tell you something, man.

Speaker 22 Listen, Uncle.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Michael Biggs, the highest paid, he made $400,000.

Speaker 22 So what you trying to do? You trying to get his money in there?

Speaker 22 Hey, listen,

Speaker 22 I'll talk to the program. We give you $500,000.

Speaker 22 We give you $500,000, $5 million uh nfl uh nil roster roster mode

Speaker 22 no

Speaker 22 and and you can and you can bring the dog with you

Speaker 16 no

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Speaker 22 hot

Speaker 16 and uh

Speaker 22 listen i'm just listening

Speaker 22 and they be trying to get me yeah he'll be all right he'll be all right they're gonna speed him right back out

Speaker 22 i'm just hey listen i'm just trying to diversify

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Speaker 16 Hey,

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Speaker 16 Oh, yo, Arch Manning. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Arch Manning probably had his best performance in his career at Texas. Yes, sir.
He threw for a career high 389 yards, accounting for six total touchdowns and a 52-37 win over the Razorbacks.

Speaker 16 Manning did something not even Vince Young or any other Texas quarterback had ever done at the university.

Speaker 16 He became the first player in school history to catch a touchdown, throw a touchdown, and rush for a touchdown.

Speaker 16 Look,

Speaker 16 I don't want to get too far over my skis because it was Arkansas. But

Speaker 16 when you do something that a university that's 125, 150 years old, and no other quarterback had ever done that in the history,

Speaker 16 we got to give it kudos. Even though it was against Arkansas,

Speaker 16 It's still, he still had himself a day, 18 to 30, 389, four touchdowns, four interceptions. They still can't run a damn football, so they had to throw it like that.

Speaker 16 But Livingston had two for 104 and a touchdown. Mosley the fifth, four for 81.
Ringo, six for 81. Moore, three for 74.
So

Speaker 16 he had a day throwing the football.

Speaker 16 But I think in order for them to be what they really want to be, Ocho, they got to have some resemblance of a run game.

Speaker 22 Well, you know what? They got to have a run game. But I like this for Arch.
I like this for Arch because you're going to get into games where you can't run the ball.

Speaker 22 And the fact that your run game has been your Achilles heel all season long and you haven't been able to run and teams are making you one-dimensional. I know they played Arkansas.

Speaker 22 But the fact that you are one-dimensional and you're able to be successful, you know, doing what you struggle with, you know, throughout.

Speaker 22 damn near the whole season, you know, as far as the passing game is concerned.

Speaker 22 And for Arch to go out there and have a game like he had today, four TDs for 389, i would like some of the other receivers that play for texas to step up i would like some of those for those other receivers to step up because when i think of texas i think of one of the schools that should be somewhat equivalent to the lsus and the ohio states as far as pumping out you know top-tier receivers that that should be going into the first round and i just haven't seen that yet this year uh ringo um who's who i thought was was supposed to be that guy he hasn't just he hasn't shown me enough this year you know um outside of that, Arch Manny, I'm glad to see him playing well again.

Speaker 22 Even though they played, we want to, you want to steer caution to win because they were playing Arkansas. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 16 Who's fired their coach during the season?

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah. I'm curious.

Speaker 16 But we got Arkansas that fired their coach, Florida that fired their coach, LHA that fired their coach. So we got three coaches in the SEC that got fired in the middle of the season.

Speaker 22 I have one question: Do the do does Texas have another test before the season ends?

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah, AM.

Speaker 16 Okay. Oh, shoot.

Speaker 22 Uh, next week hey now see now that's gonna be please tell me they're playing the texas a m so i so i can go to the game they playing in texas damn it i don't know nobody i don't know nobody at texas and so that's now he puts a performance like this against a m oh now let's talk

Speaker 22 let's talk we can talk yes sir yes sir and listen with the confidence with the confidence he's built in this game and you know the san jose

Speaker 22 even though those games don't count being able to put up a performance like this regardless of who you're playing you go into texas a AM next week with that confidence already built up. Listen,

Speaker 22 he might throw for 500.

Speaker 16 You never know. You never know.
Sark said Vince Young was at the game and came up to him after saying, Man, I wish I could have had a play like that.

Speaker 22 Oh, you're talking about like the Philly, the Philly special?

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 22 yeah, yeah. That was nice.
That was nice.

Speaker 16 Well, Vince, you did everything else. Damn, you want to single-handedly won a national championship, dude?

Speaker 16 I mean,

Speaker 16 you put on one of the greatest performances

Speaker 16 in championship history.

Speaker 16 I mean, and then the year before, you did a number on

Speaker 16 Michigan. And I think he almost threw for 200 and ran for 200.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 he put together a year, and then to do what he did against

Speaker 16 USC that was going for a third-straight national championship when they had all those guys, Matthew Leonard, Reggie Bush, Lyndell White. You know, they had Cushing.
They had Clay Matthews Jr.

Speaker 16 They had a squad over there.

Speaker 16 And Ben Shung said, nah.

Speaker 16 Yeah, they had a squad. Stars were shining on Texas that night.
Diego Pavia threw for a career high, 484 yards, Ojo.

Speaker 16 Five touchdowns as the number 14 Vanderbilt Commodores beat the Kentucky Wildcats by the score of 45-17. That's not.

Speaker 16 The Commodores kept their host for a college football playoff berth alive going into the regular season finale. That's not.

Speaker 16 Pavia, who struck yet another Heisman poll, celebrating with his teammates, set the program record topping 464 passing yards by Witt Taylor had against Tennessee in 1981.

Speaker 16 Pavia ran for another 48 yards and a sixth score. Vandi coach Clark Lear said he's the best player in the country and deserves to be in the Heisman conversation.
He tips the field when he steps on it.

Speaker 16 There are only a few players in the world that when the ball is in their hand, you can't, that can take over a game. And he's done that repeatedly here.

Speaker 16 According to Vegas, Fernando Mendoza still holds the highest Heisman trophy odds at minus 120. Meanwhile, Jordan Saiyan holds the second best at 360.
Diego Pavia improved his odds to plus 650.

Speaker 16 Ocho, yeah.

Speaker 16 He was 33 of 39. 480.
484, five touchdowns to one interception. He was their leading rusher.

Speaker 16 And again, here is a team that really couldn't run the football today, Ocho.

Speaker 16 25 carries, 65 yards, not even

Speaker 16 three yards of carry, but he was able to do it. He had two receivers over

Speaker 16 100 yards. Richardson had six for $1.59, three tubs.
Cheryl had eight for 115 and a tub.

Speaker 16 He did a little bit of everything. Like I said, he ran for a touchdown, and he threw for five more.
Six total touchdowns.

Speaker 22 That's crazy. I mean, even that interception, you know, it kind of...

Speaker 22 It is what it is. It didn't affect the outcome of the game, but this is another game, though.
This is another game, just like the Texas game. You're playing Arkansas.

Speaker 22 They playing Kentucky, young they they playing kentucky kentucky is not very good offensively and defensively i'm sorry to all those wildcats out there including my daughter who goes university kentucky but pavier did what he you you're supposed to do against an inferior opponent you're supposed to throw for 44.

Speaker 22 you're supposed to look like this the receivers are supposed to go off the way they did so this this is a great game for him as far as his heisman hopes i would have loved for him to have a game like this against some of the bigger schools some of the bigger schools like we played when he played alabama bingo like when you you you play alabamas now now you have a book.

Speaker 16 But they LSU. He had a good game.

Speaker 16 I said Jordan saying, if Julian Saiyan.

Speaker 16 Yo, yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah, but. The Ohio State quarterback.
But look, Mendoza has played really, really well.

Speaker 16 We'll see what he looks like when they play Ohio State in the Big 12 Championship game.

Speaker 16 That seems to be, that's going to be a matchup.

Speaker 16 And we'll see.

Speaker 16 That's next week.

Speaker 16 Next week is Ohio State, Michigan. That's

Speaker 16 probably the following week.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 we'll get a better sense about Mendoza. We'll get a better sense about

Speaker 16 saying

Speaker 16 because those are the one-in-two teams in the country and deservedly so, both unbeaten, untied. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes up.

Speaker 16 But Saiyan, look, he's throwing the two top receivers. We know he has Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 16 I mean, a guy from Vanderbilt winning the Heisman Trophy would be crazy to think. That would, huh? A school

Speaker 16 mainly known for academics. Right.
And nobody really thought about about Vanderbilt until this kid, Pavia, got there because Vanderbilt used to be everybody's homecoming.

Speaker 16 But they put everybody on notice last year. Yeah.

Speaker 16 If I'm not mistaken,

Speaker 16 isn't he trying to get another year? Satan? Yeah, no, Pavia.

Speaker 16 I think I saw he was like a part of a lawsuit because he went to Juco and he's trying to say Juco is not a part of the... Something to that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I think he is.

Speaker 16 He said,

Speaker 16 I'm trying to get some more of these old Vandy Bucks.

Speaker 22 Oh, listen,

Speaker 22 he stayed another year.

Speaker 22 He's going to get himself up that draft board, man.

Speaker 22 Going into next year.

Speaker 22 Oh.

Speaker 16 He's trying. He's trying, yeah.

Speaker 16 Ocho, Oregon, 10th win of the season, 42-47 victory over USC. Dan Lanning had a lot to say in his post-game news conference.

Speaker 16 Landing fired shots at the SEC saying, we didn't play Chattanooga State today, right? Like some of the other places. We competed.
It's tough playing nine conference game.

Speaker 16 It's tough playing in this league. I think proof's in the pudding.
We can beat you in a multiple of ways, right? We can outscore you at times, right? We can hold you to 18, 16 points type of game.

Speaker 16 Winning tough environments, any weather, put the ball down. Let's go play football.
That's the kind of team that we have.

Speaker 16 Landing also took issue with how teams win are sometimes viewed by the committee.

Speaker 16 A lot of times we play really good teams and they become unranked all of a sudden. That's not our fault.

Speaker 16 Maybe it is our fault.

Speaker 16 the ducks currently 10 and one seventh in the cfp rankings behind three and one lost teams uh three other one loss teams georgia texas tech old miss as of last week's ranking you like what uh coach lanning had to say oh choke i like it i like coaches talking like oh excuse me

Speaker 22 i like coaches talking like that i like them talking i love them i like them talking jazzy because that's it's the reason the teams are playing the way they play now when you think of oregon of the past you think of finesse speed all over the place oregon right now the game they're winning, went up front, and then everything else takes over from there.

Speaker 22 They running the ball. They dominate.
They dominated the front. They throwing the ball.
The quarterback more had a day to day. He was 22 for 30 with two TDs, 257.

Speaker 22 Whitton had 104 on the ground in a TD.

Speaker 22 They not the same Oregon of old where you call them a finesse team. Oh, they ain't going to hit nobody.
They weak up front.

Speaker 22 Man, they got the meat and potatoes up there battling the trenches, and the skill position is taking over from there.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 22 I like him talking a little trash, though. I like that.

Speaker 16 I mean, USC gave them a game for a while and then a little bit. And then they kind of pulled away.
I mean, it was, what, 28, 14, 28, 14 at the half. Both scored a touchdown.
Then USC scored six.

Speaker 16 But look, Oregon's got a good team. I think if they hold serve,

Speaker 16 they're going to be in the college football playoff. It's hard.
That's the number

Speaker 16 seven team in the country. What they got, Oregon State, probably next week.
Yeah, we got 11-1. It's going to be hard to leave a team that's in the top 10 out of the college football players, Sojo.

Speaker 16 It's just going to be hard.

Speaker 22 I mean, hold on.

Speaker 22 They might lose to Oregon State next week. Don't sleep.

Speaker 16 Ain't nobody losing to Oregon State.

Speaker 22 Don't sleep. Don't sleep.

Speaker 22 Don't sleep on us.

Speaker 16 Yeah, we slept. We sleeping.

Speaker 22 Don't sleep. We sleeping.

Speaker 16 Hey, listen.

Speaker 22 Hey, it's Civil War. You never know what might happen.

Speaker 22 You never know.

Speaker 16 Well, they the North.

Speaker 16 If we know what happened in the Civil War in the North, let us out.

Speaker 16 General Lee surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 that's where I'm at on y'all.

Speaker 16 Look,

Speaker 16 I think the SEC is going to nine conference games also. Because, yeah, I mean, you play in Mercer and you play in Chattanooga and you play in all these teams.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 But boy, that's why I think the thing is that, you know, you go unscathed in the SEC. When you got Alabama and LSU and you got, you know, you got Oklahoma and Texas.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 You got all those teams on you.

Speaker 16 You got all those teams on Georgia.

Speaker 16 But it's going to be hard for you to go unscathed

Speaker 16 and play

Speaker 16 a conference championship game.

Speaker 16 It's going to be hard for you to be unscathed in these conferences moving forward.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 It just is. It just is.
And I know, you know, people are like, well, hey, this is an X, Y, and Z, but it's going to get harder and harder for you to go unscathed.

Speaker 22 Well, listen, that's a good thing.

Speaker 22 That's a good thing, obviously, because

Speaker 22 for us fans of the collegiate game, that's a good thing for us. Now, maybe for the committee, it might be a little difficult.
It might be a little difficult to them.

Speaker 22 Maybe they will take into account that,

Speaker 22 listen, it's going to be difficult for us, for teams to go undefeated. So maybe you have to have some of

Speaker 22 a little curve when it comes to your judging who you let in the college football playoffs because it's so difficult.

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 I think

Speaker 16 when you look at, I mean, you got Penn State really down this year. You got Illinois.
You got Northwestern. You got some of these teams like, Michigan State.

Speaker 16 Right, right.

Speaker 16 So it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 16 I don't envy being in

Speaker 16 their position because you're going to have to make some tough decisions. Yeah.

Speaker 16 You're going to have to make some very, very tough decisions.

Speaker 16 And if you're not careful here, Ocho, it's going to be the SEC versus the Big Ten. That's who's going to make the college football playoffs.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Ocho, in an effort to solidify his college football playoff, Kate, the number nine-ranked Notre Dame fighting Irish, left little doubt today with a record seven 70-7 route of Syracuse.

Speaker 16 The Irish scored 21 points before taking the first damn offensive snap.

Speaker 22 That's not fair.

Speaker 16 The 9 won 19 straight regular season games when facing elimination from the college football playoff discussion, meaning in blowout fashion. If there is a

Speaker 16 lingering question about why the committee ranked Notre Dame as the second highest of the two lost teams this week. Theirs were answered in South Bear.

Speaker 16 Jeremiah Love bolstered his Heisman trophy candidacy with 108 rushing yards and three touchdowns. Ocho,

Speaker 16 eight carries.

Speaker 16 Hey,

Speaker 22 what is Syracuse doing, man?

Speaker 16 Nothing. Don't look like they were doing nothing.

Speaker 22 Hey, after the game, after the game, they need to be out there doing tackling drills.

Speaker 16 Well, you remember early in the year, Ocho, they had them running win sprints when they lost the game.

Speaker 22 Oh, that's right. Oh, that coach did have...
See, now, right now, after the game is over, they shouldn't even be able to shower. Everybody outside and we're doing.

Speaker 16 But they ain't musty. They got to be 77.
You ain't do nothing.

Speaker 16 You ain't musty.

Speaker 16 You know what it's like?

Speaker 16 The correct way is musty. We say mussy.
Man, get your mussy ass out of here.

Speaker 22 Listen, they played in South Bend, right?

Speaker 22 Yes. Yeah, listen.
I'm not, I can't remember the head coach's name for Syracuse, but I would have had the plane. We not going nowhere.
Wait till the stadium clear out.

Speaker 22 Everybody come back out here. Put your pads on.
We're doing tackling drills.

Speaker 22 We're not even getting on the plane. We're not even going home.
We don't even deserve to get on the flight.

Speaker 16 They need to do some offensive drills too because they only pass for 95 yards.

Speaker 16 They only had 112 yards. They only had 112 yards rushing.
They have 112 yards rushing on 50 carries.

Speaker 16 Dog.

Speaker 16 Hold on. Notre Dame had no chat.
Notre Dame had 329 yards rushing, six touchdowns on 24 carries.

Speaker 22 Hold on. Let me tell you what's even worse, though.
Think about this. Think about if Syracuse could tackle, right? Think of Syracuse did have defense, was able to stop the run.

Speaker 22 Please tell the chat how many yards Carr had throwing today.

Speaker 16 49. They had 67 total yards.

Speaker 16 There were nine of 15. for 67 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 22 See?

Speaker 22 If you was able to stop the run,

Speaker 22 if you was able to stop the run, now you're allowing people to run. If you're able to run on a team, if you're able to impose your will and move a man off a spot against his will and freedom,

Speaker 22 this is the kind of day you're going to have. And once you can do that, it's a wrap.
It's a wrap. There's no need to throw the ball.

Speaker 16 There's no need. They had less than four.
Because here's the problem that you run into is that every time they touch the ball, they're going to hit the head on the goalpost.

Speaker 16 Yeah. Jordan loves goal.
Because think about it. You had 24 rush attempts, and basically a fourth of those ended in a touchdown.
Touchdown.

Speaker 22 I'm curious. I'm curious.
I mean, at some point, pride has to set in. You got the one to hit somebody.

Speaker 16 35-0 in the first quarter. 49-0 at the half.
56-0 at the end of three.

Speaker 22 Is that disrespectful for Mr. Franklin running the score up like that?

Speaker 16 He didn't run the score. I emptied my bench.
Hell, I called a couple of of kids out of the stands. Here, come here.
You ever played football, son? No, sir. Hell, get in the game.

Speaker 16 Maybe they can tackle you because they can't tackle these, they can't tackle these kids that actually played before. So, hey,

Speaker 22 hey, what'd you say? They pulled a couple of kids out of the stands.

Speaker 16 Got a couple of kids out of the stands. Hey, you ever played football before, son? No, sir.
Here, get in here. We're gonna hand you the ball.

Speaker 16 Hey, I mean, that's that's embarrassing.

Speaker 22 That's funny. That's funny.

Speaker 16 That's a good one. I mean, 24 crushes, bro.

Speaker 16 Oh, that's funny. That's damn near 15 yards of carry.

Speaker 22 Yeah, them boys laid down out there, man. Hold on.
They laid down early. They laid down early.
35-0

Speaker 22 in the first quarter.

Speaker 22 That means

Speaker 22 you ain't want no smoke. You ain't trying to play no football.

Speaker 16 70?

Speaker 22 Y'all going through? They're going through the motions, man.

Speaker 22 Come on, man. At least play for the S on your helmet.
If you ain't going to play for the S on your helmet, play for your head coach.

Speaker 22 If you ain't going to play for your head coach, play for your teammates. If you ain't going to play for your teammates, at least play for the name on the back of the jersey.

Speaker 16 Because people can see that shit.

Speaker 16 Hey, I already know how my what you call them gonna do. I already know my homebook is gonna kill me when I go back home.
Man, they be the breaks off. Y'all, Sharp, what the hell y'all was doing?

Speaker 16 Nothing.

Speaker 22 Anybody, anybody that played with Syracuse and you got a girlfriend, she should dump you. She got to leave you.

Speaker 22 She got to leave you.

Speaker 16 I ain't taking no calls.

Speaker 16 She ain't taking no calls tonight.

Speaker 22 Hey, block a block, block everybody.

Speaker 16 She might be in the DM. She might be in a

Speaker 16 Jordan

Speaker 16 Love DM.

Speaker 22 Listen, listen,

Speaker 22 if you're in a relationship, ladies, and you're dating someone on the Syracuse football team, I suggest you break up with them because that's uncalled for. There should be no reward.

Speaker 22 There should be no reward for being in a relationship after that bullshit they pulled today.

Speaker 16 Yeah, that's bad.

Speaker 16 Oh, Joe, you ever scored 70 points on somebody?

Speaker 22 Yeah, in Madden.

Speaker 16 The ultrabody is the actual football.

Speaker 22 Real life? Oh, nah, not real life. Hell, nah.
Hell nah. You know, any game I've played in, it always been a game of of what I like to call quality on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 16 No,

Speaker 16 it was thought to be a quality.

Speaker 16 No,

Speaker 16 we beat Morehouse one year for homecoming 70 to 13. We beat Clark like 60 to 20.
Oh, we used to put points on people, Ocho. We put, yeah.

Speaker 22 I mean, that's not fair. Y'all wasn't playing nobody.

Speaker 16 We played them. I mean, we made it look like nobody.

Speaker 22 Okay, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 16 They were somebody before we got older than their ass.

Speaker 22 Right. I got you.
I got you.

Speaker 16 See, that's what you got to do. See, you got to beat it.
See, if you get into a fight with somebody, you don't beat them and turn them loose. You beat them till they break loose.

Speaker 16 You don't see animals fight? Yeah. And when it gets, he breaks loose and go, he ain't never got to worry about him again.

Speaker 22 Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.

Speaker 16 I see what you mean. We made more house break loose.
They took us off the schedule for a couple years. At least until I left.
Now, they might have played.

Speaker 16 They might have came back and spun the block after I would left, but they want no parser number two again.

Speaker 16 Because we cut everybody's ass. Clark, Bolt Valley, Albany State.
It didn't matter. Didn't matter.
Mo Brown, they got it too.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 22 you notice you've been called fam, huh?

Speaker 16 Listen, Ocho. Now, I don't know what Fam would have done before

Speaker 16 number two got there or after, but they would have sell Nell Day of this.

Speaker 22 You don't think so?

Speaker 16 No, sir.

Speaker 16 Okay.

Speaker 16 I'm getting, just what I know. I'm getting off the bus getting 100.
Now, your best bet is to try to keep me from getting 150, 200 in a couple of tubs.

Speaker 22 I don't know, Uncle It's a different ballgame down there, but them boys down there in Tallahassee, especially back in them days. What year you was at Savannah State?

Speaker 16 86 to 89.

Speaker 22 Oh, hell, boy, them boys weren't playing back then, boy. Them boys weren't playing back then.

Speaker 16 Them boys weren't playing back then, boy. You know, I caught a touchdown in 21 straight games.

Speaker 22 Huh?

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 yeah.

Speaker 22 You ain't hear what I just said now, huh? What?

Speaker 22 Think about the level of competition. Obviously, HBCU, great talent.
Yeah. Elite talent, sometimes not getting opportunities they want to do, want to have to be at PWIs, right? But fam you in the 80s.

Speaker 22 You ain't want none of that. I'm telling you now.
Ocho.

Speaker 16 You realize I was one of them guys that was supposed to be at a PWI, right? Yeah, I understand that.

Speaker 22 And it was a whole lot of them, too.

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 16 But they couldn't see me.

Speaker 16 Ocho.

Speaker 16 If I did what I did in the NFL, can you imagine me what I was doing in the HBCU? Yeah. So just think about it: say, damn, damn.
I went to the home from an HBCU. I can just imagine he would cook.
Yes.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 22 All right.

Speaker 16 All right. Ultra, I averaged 20 yards a catch for a career.
Uh.

Speaker 16 What? A career.

Speaker 22 Can I ask you something?

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 22 Just, I want you to remember this name, Jaque Nunley. Okay.

Speaker 22 He averaged 20 yards a catch for his career, too, at

Speaker 22 Fam U. Yeah.

Speaker 22 He's an Edison red-rated legend. Yeah.
Come on, man.

Speaker 16 Hey, but guess what? I guess he'd have had 200, I'd have had 300.

Speaker 22 Nah.

Speaker 22 But

Speaker 22 them boys back then, that defense back then? Nah.

Speaker 22 That rattler defense in the 80s, boy, especially 86 to 89. As a matter of fact, 86 to 92.

Speaker 16 Man,

Speaker 16 it would have been no.

Speaker 16 You would have heard nothing. All you heard is.

Speaker 16 Little tail movie just a little bit. Nah, nah.

Speaker 22 Listen. Bet out of cook, though.

Speaker 16 them. Nah.
Better cooked them.

Speaker 22 Nah, I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you.

Speaker 16 You do realize, Georgia Southern, we played Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern, they ended up winning the 108 National Championship the year we played them.

Speaker 16 I set a stadium record on them. Nine for 202

Speaker 16 Elon, the year before, they won the NIA National Championship, Sam for 221.

Speaker 16 Oh, the big of the school, Elon, not Elon,

Speaker 16 Wofford, cooked cooked them lamb for 142 and two

Speaker 16 if you if you were really really good it goes hey you know you know they're gonna be some scouts here because they got some good that's all I need to hear just they just say scouts they could have been boy scouts girl scouts selling damn cookies on the sideline I was cutting ass yeah I listen on it sound good it sound good but them boys down here in Florida Them boys, listen, hey, listen, hold on, let me finish now.

Speaker 22 Them boys coming out of the day, Dayton Broward County, that was down there in Tallahassee, that made up

Speaker 22 that Florida A ⁇ M rattle football team,

Speaker 22 boy, you wouldn't have gotten nothing. You hear me?

Speaker 22 And that's what I, hey, listen, that's with all due respect to what you did against them teams you played when you played, you know, at Savannah State. Man, a boy that he ain't playing that, man.

Speaker 22 Hey, you ain't getting Nathaniel. I'm just telling you, I'm telling you.
I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

Speaker 16 I'm a double-edged sword. I was cutting ass left and right.

Speaker 16 You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm some sword. They're just sharp on one side.
I'm double-edged. I'm cutting ass on the left side.
I'm cutting ass on the right side.

Speaker 22 I see. It's different.
You notice?

Speaker 22 You notice all the schools you just named? None of them had to do nothing with Florida. They had nothing to do with none with Florida.
It's a different.

Speaker 22 Hey, Uncle, it's a different type of breed down here, man. You hear me?

Speaker 16 Oh, we played. Who we played? We played Central Florida one year.
Who? Central Florida. Who was that?

Speaker 16 Central Florida?

Speaker 22 I don't know nothing about that school there.

Speaker 22 Boy, stop it. I know.
I don't know. You talk about UCF, huh?

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 22 Yeah, they must have just started that year

Speaker 16 yeah they had they must have just started that year cooked them go look at it cooked them they had a guy that ended up if i'm not mistaken got drafted by the cowboys in the third round who they came down they came down i think his name was ford

Speaker 16 bernard for look

Speaker 16 hey who won the game oh they won they beat us but i beat them okay you know what i'm saying they they was talking about man who was that number two yo you use that you was at that cutting oh for sure okay Anywhere, look, we went to my sophomore year, I made a Black College All-American.

Speaker 16 Sure enough, I was the only sophomore to make the team.

Speaker 16 Coach

Speaker 16 Grambler's head coach, Coach Eddie Robinson, Eddie Rob.

Speaker 16 Coach W.C. Gordon, such,

Speaker 16 I mean, all the coaches.

Speaker 16 Mo Forte, they had Willie Jeffries, and they was talking about all these guys.

Speaker 16 Howard Ballard was at the game,

Speaker 16 Vince Connor, Howard Reed, all these guys. My coach said, I got the baddest in here.

Speaker 16 All them guys y'all talking about, my guy going to play on Sundays, and he's a sophomore. He's the baddest in here.
He ain't lie.

Speaker 22 He was talking about you?

Speaker 16 He had the baddest in there. A true sophomore.
All right. All right.

Speaker 16 You better tell about your dad.

Speaker 22 Yeah. Sean,

Speaker 16 please.

Speaker 22 Hey, hey, speaking of sense, since we on the topic of HBCUs, I just want to congratulate Bethune-Cookman Wildcats on winning the Florida Classic today.

Speaker 22 Salute to y'all boys, all the Wildcats out there. Rattlers, we're going to be all right.
We're going to be all right. We're going to be back next year.
We got one more game.

Speaker 22 We got Mississippi Valley State next weekend. We need to finish the season all-strong with a win.

Speaker 22 I'm not sure what's going to happen with the coaching vacancy, but whatever coach comes into play, we're going to have success next year. But I guarantee you one thing.

Speaker 22 I guarantee we won the halftime show, Rattlers. I guarantee we won the halftime show.
And if we didn't win the

Speaker 22 halftime show, I guarantee you we won the fifth quarter.

Speaker 16 yeah ocho yeah y'all bad with it hey i'll bad have been playing i bad bit player

Speaker 16 whoa whoa whoa don't do that

Speaker 22 hey that's the that's the best thing about hbcu football games when that band crank up hey when the band crank up or they playing in the in the middle oh man because you know They be talking about you're not supposed to be playing when Napoleon team got the ball.

Speaker 16 Get all that. That's out the window.

Speaker 22 Out the window.

Speaker 16 But hey, we're going to be playing. Because I'm going to give them something to play for.
We're going to be playing.

Speaker 16 What's the, well, I mean, you got beat a bunch in Cincinnati. We got beat by.

Speaker 22 Oh, hey, whoa, whoa, that wasn't necessary. You take a shots at me.

Speaker 16 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 16 The most I got like 37. I lost 37, nothing to to the Eagles.
No, ain't nobody to drop no 40, 50. Hell no.

Speaker 22 I mean, 37, nothing to 50. I mean, same thing.
You ain't too far off.

Speaker 16 Oh, oh, we dropped 70. No, boy,

Speaker 16 you start getting the 50s.

Speaker 16 You know how many touchdowns? Ocho, you know how many touchdowns?

Speaker 22 Hold on.

Speaker 22 We had a game. We played the Cleveland Browns.
We didn't lose. I'm saying it got in the 50s.
I think the score was 57, 45, or something like that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah. Were you there then?

Speaker 22 Yeah, I was, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 I think, with that 50, but they were going back and forth. There's like four weeks.

Speaker 22 Hey, we was scoring hella touchdowns.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 22 So now you got that in my head now.

Speaker 16 Oh, Joe, if you had to guess right now, just looking at through the first 11 weeks, 10, 11 weeks,

Speaker 16 12 weeks of the college football season, who do you see on the landscape that could actually beat Ohio State?

Speaker 22 shit

Speaker 22 actually beat them convincingly nobody gonna beat them convincingly a team that can give him a a a hard time maybe

Speaker 22 georgia indiana georgia indiana georgia georgia indiana as great i mean i would say texas if they were a little bit more consistent offensively But they've been consistent offensively against somewhat inferior opponents.

Speaker 22 He's played good, but I need to see consistent quarterback play, great decision-making to say, you know what, you can go in there and beat Ohio State.

Speaker 22 Great defense, but you still got to put up points.

Speaker 16 Yeah, when the first game, Ohio State's going to be at home. So the likelihood of somebody going in there beating them there, probably not likely.

Speaker 16 You're going to probably have to get them on a neutral field, Lojo.

Speaker 16 I don't think so. I'm going to get them on a neutral field.

Speaker 22 But Indiana, good. That defense.

Speaker 16 I agree. That defense.
We're going to find our lot because we know Michigan play them tough. No matter what, no matter what Michigan might look,

Speaker 16 what you might think, may or may not think of Michigan. Michigan play them tough.
Michigan is physical. They're a physical team.

Speaker 16 They're going to run the football and they're going to try to shut your ward off and stop you from running the football. So it's going to be a very interesting matchup.

Speaker 16 And you know, Michigan has a true freshman at quarterback. How much pressure can they put on him and to coax him into a few mistakes? Because I found out mistaken.

Speaker 16 I think this game is in Michigan, don't you?

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 It is?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I think this game is at the big house.

Speaker 16 You know, normally we grow up at the big house. You ain't want to go to the big house.
Nah.

Speaker 22 I mean, not that big house. No, sure, don't.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 it's going to be tough.

Speaker 16 Look, we got some good teams. We got Georgia.

Speaker 16 You got

Speaker 16 A ⁇ M doesn't have a loss. Excuse me.
A ⁇ M has no losses. Indiana has no loss.

Speaker 16 You got a few teams out there that have one loss. So it's going to be interesting to see.

Speaker 16 But they'll got those two outstanding receivers. They can run the ball.
The quarterback is really, really good.

Speaker 16 You're going to have to work cut out. You're going to have to play.

Speaker 16 Ohio State's going to have to get outside of themselves.

Speaker 16 They're going to have to turn the ball over. They're going to have to be sloppy.
You're going to have to make them, and you're going to have to create some turnovers.

Speaker 16 You're going to have to create some big plays for yourself. Because I just don't know if you can just methodically just go down the field methodically.
10-play, 11-play, 12-play drive to get there.

Speaker 16 You're going to have to get a couple of splash plays

Speaker 16 and flip field position. But it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes out.

Speaker 16 Who makes the college football playoffs?

Speaker 16 What brackets are they in? How soon?

Speaker 16 Is Georgia going to be on the same side as Ohio State?

Speaker 16 You know,

Speaker 16 something along Texas AM, where the seeding. So

Speaker 16 that's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shakes out.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 16 But But I'm anxious. I'm ready now.

Speaker 16 Hey, is it clear? No.

Speaker 16 Huh? Huh?

Speaker 22 Is it clear?

Speaker 16 I can't hear what you said.

Speaker 22 Is it clear?

Speaker 16 What clear?

Speaker 22 Oh, you can see it, huh?

Speaker 16 Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 22 Damn.

Speaker 22 I think the camera trying to focus by itself.

Speaker 16 Hey, if I

Speaker 16 can Jordan,

Speaker 22 add Jordan if I put my camera on auto, would it focus on it?

Speaker 16 He said if he put his camera on auto, would it focus? No. No.

Speaker 22 He said no? No.

Speaker 16 Damn.

Speaker 16 Oh, Joe,

Speaker 16 can you see what they got up? Talk about the best 50.

Speaker 16 Someone dropped the top 50 running backs ever. In college?

Speaker 22 In college? Who number one?

Speaker 16 They got Jonathan Taylor. Hell no.
Who never barred Sanders?

Speaker 22 At number one, who made that? A little kid?

Speaker 16 Oh, okay, since 2000. Okay, since 2000.
Nah, Reggie is number one since 2000.

Speaker 16 Reggie Bush is number one since 2000.

Speaker 16 I'm not putting Jonathan Taylor over Reggie or Adrian Peterson. Well, who's number three?

Speaker 16 They got Jonathan. Can you see it? Ash just send it to you.

Speaker 22 Oh, hold on. Hold on, let me look at that thing.
I got the chat up on my phone.

Speaker 22 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 22 Ooh, that's a good list. Hey, Derrick McFadden was that boy, boy.
Yeah,

Speaker 16 it's since 2000, Ocho. I was going to say, because they like, I'm like, all time? I'm like, oh, hell no.

Speaker 22 Hey, oh, Monty Ball. I oh, just bring back memories.

Speaker 16 Oh, Wisconsin has some running backs now. They didn't.
Yeah. I mean, Jonathan Taylor has been the best one in the NFL from there.
Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon had a nice career.

Speaker 16 But when you go look at Ron Dane and some of those other guys that came into the league,

Speaker 16 they didn't have nearly the career like a Melvin Gordon, like a Jonathan Taylor. So clearly, Jonathan Taylor has had the best NFL career.
Melvin Gore was a solid ball player as well.

Speaker 22 Hey, speaking of, didn't Michael Bennett go to Wisconsin too? That went to Minnesota, right? Or am I tripping?

Speaker 16 I think so. He might have done.

Speaker 22 He was real fast, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 22 I might have the wrong school.

Speaker 22 Hey, Lamichael James at Oregon. Yeah.
It was must-see TV, my

Speaker 22 Must see TV.

Speaker 22 Christian McCaffrey,

Speaker 22 Brees Hall, Dalvin.

Speaker 16 Y'all like that list, chat?

Speaker 22 Hell yeah. Dalvin.

Speaker 16 No, I'm saying I'm asking if they like it. No, no.

Speaker 16 Reggie Bush was the most electrified running back since 2000. And it ain't even close.

Speaker 16 Nobody was close to Reggie.

Speaker 16 Ocho, as a running back, and he was a returner.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Reggie was the most electrified.

Speaker 22 Hey, hey, who was 25? I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 16 Kadim Carey went to Arizona. He had an okay career.
Not nothing in the NFL. He was a good college player.
Right.

Speaker 16 Spros, Spros was a utility knife. I mean, he ran

Speaker 16 at the Chargers.

Speaker 16 New Orleans, Philly. Philly.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I like that list. I mean, seeing some of these names, I haven't seen some of these names in a long time.
They bring back good memories watching college football.

Speaker 16 I guess

Speaker 16 they ain't like Zeke. They ain't put Zeke up there.

Speaker 22 At Ohio? Yeah,

Speaker 22 he had a good career at Ohio State. Oh, man.

Speaker 16 Man, the first year of

Speaker 16 the football playoff, I mean, that number that he had over 200 yards in three games.

Speaker 16 Oregon,

Speaker 16 Alabama,

Speaker 16 and I think it was Penn State or who was it in the Big Ten championship game? He went over 200. And then he goes 220 against Alabama.
And then he goes like 240, 250 against Oregon.

Speaker 22 Let me see. Reggie, Reggie was nice.

Speaker 22 They got damn.

Speaker 22 Okay.

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