Best of NFL News Part 1: Browns START Sheduer Sanders, Ja'Marr Chase suspended
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the BEST of the NFL week! Unc and Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders earning his first NFL start and the massive pressure on the Browns rookie, Justin Fields benched for Tyrod Taylor and more!
0:00 - Shedeur Sanders Browns starter this week
29:45 - Ja'Marr Chase suspended 1 game
42:37 - Jets bench Justin Fields
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Speaker 19 The Browns quarterback. Wow.
Speaker 23
The Browns quarterbacks are 0-17 in their first career starts since the team rejoined the NFL. This goes back to 1999.
Let that sink in.
Speaker 23 a quarterback has never won their first nfl start in cleveland going back to 1999
Speaker 23 so basically that's 27
Speaker 23 years
Speaker 23 and that's that's crazy work look at look at these names from tim couch to spurge and win tom brady's still mad about that spurge and win luke mccown charlie fry derrick anderson brady quinn coat mccoy brandon whedon fad lewis johnny manza carner shaw Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, Baker Mayfield, Dorian Thompson Robinson, and Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 23 Hey, that that's crazy, Ocho. Hey, I think
Speaker 23 maybe
Speaker 23
they just have bad luck in general. Maybe in just organizational bad luck.
Because to not have had a quarterback and to have, I mean, they've had some success, but it was short-lived.
Speaker 23 It was short-lived that they're still in search of one that they can call their franchise quarterback. and that's why they were so eager to do what they did with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 23 Because look what they've had to deal with for so long, huh? This is what they've had to deal with for so long.
Speaker 23 That's why they were willing to throw whatever it was at Deshaun Watson because you understood the success that he had before
Speaker 23 you know
Speaker 23 those issues arose. And even after they arose, we still don't win because we know what we're getting.
Speaker 23 You see the problem in Dojo? In Ocho, look at look at the years.
Speaker 23
99, they had a they had what had a a starter. 2000, they had a different starter.
04, a different starter. 05, a different starter.
06, a different starter. 08, a different.
Speaker 23 You see a real current theme, Ocho? Yeah, man. Joe, you see the real current theme? Yeah.
Speaker 23
No continuity. You ain't just finna keep trotting quarterbacks out there year after year and think you're going to win.
Look at that. Think about it.
12, different quarterback.
Speaker 23
14, different quarterback. 14, different quarterback.
I mean, some of these in the same season.
Speaker 23 16, Cody Kessler, 17, Deshaun Kaiser, 17, Kevin Hogan, 18, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 23 Hey, also, not crazy. And you know what else, too, Joe and Unk?
Speaker 23 Not only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays having to continuously learn something new or learn a new system and not getting, like Unk said, any continuity.
Speaker 23
You know, as an offense, this is what happens. This is what happens.
It's always something new. So no one's ever to get acclimated and comfortable to one thing.
Speaker 23
And this is what it will always look like. Turmoil.
Hey, hey, I agree. You can't cheat chemistry and continuity, man.
You can't cheat that. You know what I mean?
Speaker 23
If you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or a different OC, a different head coach, I mean, different system. Yeah, it's a different system.
So it's hard to catch rhythm and timing.
Speaker 23 You know, that stuff takes a while, but I can see why I ain't no quarterback,
Speaker 23
no game one. That's crazy.
Yeah, but I know one thing,
Speaker 23
Shadur, he gets his chance to start. This is the opportunity he's been waiting on.
You know, there's no, there's no more excuse me. He could make the better team to start against.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 23
Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have a chance to make history and change the narrative, you know.
And if things go well, the talk's going to be good.
Speaker 23 If things don't go well, we're going to let it be known. We're going to be,
Speaker 23 especially me, I've gotten really good at this, Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being critical when things, when people, when people aren't playing well.
Speaker 23 yeah we have we you gotta we gotta call we gotta talk about what we see yeah yeah yeah i'm not sugarcoating but if you go out there if you go out there and it up you know all excuses are out the window you had a week to prepare you had a week to get acclimated with the offense and you got and you're playing against the raiders damn that's
Speaker 23
just block 98. If y'all make a mistake, block 98.
Yeah. Matter of fact,
Speaker 23
you could scheme him all game. You could scheme a way to stop 98 all game.
Chip him, double him, do whatever you need to do to give Shadur time to be able to do what he does best. Throw the ball.
Speaker 23 Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses.
Speaker 23 Because boy, they throw him in against the Ravens. Them boys fighting for their lives over there.
Speaker 23 Well, I think the thing is, and plus, he gets an opportunity. I think the biggest thing, Joe Nocho, he gets an opportunity to work with those guys.
Speaker 23 So he'll understand how they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know,
Speaker 23
the tempo and the speed in which they run their routes. because that's something that you can't, you need to be in there to see.
Because one guy, he might takes a while.
Speaker 23
He might not get his head around. Ocho was a guy that got his head around real quick.
Yes. So you know, hey, I could put this ball out there before he come out his break.
Speaker 23 I know as soon Ocho's snapping his head around. Other guys, he's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your damn head if you don't get your head around now.
Speaker 23
You got to get in and out of those breaks. And I thought he threw the ball with some time.
Yeah, he missed some throws.
Speaker 23 There was a couple of shallow crosses that he probably should have took, but he's a guy that wants to push the ball down the field. Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances.
Speaker 23 Gabriel was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down the field. It's hard for you to methodically three yards here, two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard.
Speaker 23 It's hard to methodically go down the field and win games without at some point in time taking a chance to put the ball down the field.
Speaker 23 It's just hard to just do that every single down in and down out.
Speaker 23 They got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall behind their new and take the running game completely away.
Speaker 23
But as long as they can keep the game, I'm able to run some. I can play action off of that Ocho.
Give him some stuff where I get down flat. Hey, I get a flat route.
I get an over route.
Speaker 23
I get a comeback. You know, give him stuff like that.
Stuff that's going to allow him to get the ball out of his hands real quick at times.
Speaker 23 And there are other times that you're going to have to call plays specifically so he can push the ball down the field.
Speaker 23 And I think they'll have some success. Look,
Speaker 23 what's it called? Might have another four or five sack game, Miles Cross,
Speaker 23 Miles Garrett.
Speaker 23 Miles Garrett. That offensive line, did you see the offensive line? You see what the Cowboys do? The Cowboys ain't got two players combined that's good as Miles Garrett, let alone one.
Speaker 23 Yeah, you're right. And he ate.
Speaker 23 So, I mean,
Speaker 23
Quinny Williams had a sack and a half. O'Diggy Zua had two.
I mean, Kenny Crowder.
Speaker 23
Everybody was getting it on action. Yeah, Kenny Carrot.
So I could just imagine.
Speaker 23 Hey, you know what? And if you think about it, Unc,
Speaker 23 as good as the defense is, this just might be the game. This just might be the game with that
Speaker 23 0-17 losing streak for quarterback starting in their first time. It might be snap.
Speaker 23 There's a good chance if he protects the ball and
Speaker 23 knowing the defense, the defense is going to get the ball back for him many of times on Sunday. It's a good chance.
Speaker 23 Hey, hey, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 23 the defense
Speaker 23 should create some great field position for you yes because geno is prime gino lately i mean gino is really high up on turning the ball over now i don't know if he's leading the league intercession but he damn close
Speaker 23 put it like this i don't know if he leading the room on choke but he at the table where the guy that's leading the league in interception gino at the table having a conversation with him you know i'm right behind you
Speaker 23 I'm probably going to tie you up this week, so don't get too comfortable having that lead. Yeah.
Speaker 23 Shador just needs to be shadur
Speaker 23 like i said get the ball out of your hands and don't take listen shador i understand like you know you're looking to make the big play but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds you're not going to outrun
Speaker 23
you weren't blessed with your dad's speed and wasn't he weren't so that belly and back You're not going to outrun these DNs. You're not.
You're not.
Speaker 23
All you're going to do, if you're in field goal range, you're going to take your team out of field goal goal range. Make it manageable.
Let it, if you take a sack,
Speaker 23
take a sack on second down, Ocho. Now you put yourself further behind the sticks on third downs.
They need to stay in front of the sticks.
Speaker 23
And that's the thing that you want, like young quarterbacks, Joe, you want them to stay in front of the sticks. You want it second and five, second and six.
You want it third and one to three.
Speaker 23
Third, at the bare maximum, third and five. You start getting third, eight to ten, twelve, thirteen, you're asking for trouble.
Yeah. You're asking for trouble.
Speaker 23 I believe in him man i think he's gonna do i think he's gonna do pretty well this weekend uh considering you know with him having a week with the ones right the number ones he hadn't done that all year so and i think he just he just a young confident dude bro i feel like he he knows this is his moment and i feel like he's gonna step up and shine yeah yeah
Speaker 23 he waited uh he waited a long time what 12 weeks to get his opportunity it didn't seem like it was gonna come yeah um but you know hey now the opportunity is here. Yeah.
Speaker 23
My brother said, hey, man, I ain't getting no run, man. They ain't giving.
He said, hey,
Speaker 23 John Elwy is going to call your number now. Yeah.
Speaker 23 Just make sure when he calls your number, you pick the phone up. You ready? You go.
Speaker 23
You ready? You go. Okay.
It took him 12 weeks for him to call his line. Count call his number.
Speaker 23 Shadur, answer the phone.
Speaker 23
Yep. Answer the phone.
That's going to be a good one.
Speaker 23 Shadur spoke about getting first-team reps.
Speaker 23 I'm truly excited for that, knowing that I have a piece of the offense to say so, and how things fit my eye and place the players exactly where they need to be, seeing how that come in and out of route, seeing the structure of the old linemen, seeing their set, just having a feeling.
Speaker 23
I'm more of a field type of a person. So that's how I learned.
That's how I do everything. I'm not just a, I'm going to watch it.
It's just going to happen. No, I got to be out there, feel it.
Speaker 23 I got to move around. I like so many details that it takes for me to feel my best and play my best.
Speaker 23 best i'm doing everything in my power and this team's doing everything in their power to help me get prepared
Speaker 23 yeah oh joe yeah you you what you think the stats what you think his stats gonna be you know what i i don't want to say i don't want to jinx it i don't want to jinx it i just know you don't want to jinx it yeah i don't want to jinx it i just know that sasfanski understands what shador's strengths are going to be he's gonna he's gonna understand what shador does well so the game plan going to that game is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's able to do well for one that's getting the ball down the goddamn field having a healthy balance of being able to run the ball so play action works as well when they do want to throw yep and make sure they do they cannot under any circumstances be one-dimensional they can't be one-dimensional So a healthy balance of the run, a healthy balance of the pass.
Speaker 23 And once that young bull gets in the rhythm and get any kind of confidence, Joe,
Speaker 23 man,
Speaker 23 i think i think that comes with the prep you know throughout the week yeah you know especially with the ones getting that getting that under your belt that's going to create a lot of confidence for the young boy man yeah you know going into the game and i think that's gonna help you uncanojo yeah and the play goal the play call is gonna look completely different because you got a quarterback that can do something different that yeah for sure couldn't gonna look completely different yeah
Speaker 23 Ocho, you remember, Joe, you remember your first start? Ocho, what you remember about your first start?
Speaker 23 San Diego Chargers. San Diego Chargers in San Diego, obviously, when they had the baseball field.
Speaker 23 Rodney Harrison.
Speaker 23 Yep. Rodney Harrison,
Speaker 23 Junior Seal,
Speaker 23 Ryan McNeil, who
Speaker 23
went to UM, played defensive back. Yeah, went to the U.
Yep. I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeil in the corner of the end zone, and the scar is still there because I landed on the,
Speaker 23 I don't know if it was third base or a home plate and skinned up. The infield.
Speaker 23 yeah the infield and skinned up my whole my whole arm is still there it's still there that's that's how deep that's how deep that cherry was yeah
Speaker 23 that was dope that was my first that was my first start joe you remember your first start yeah my first start was uh
Speaker 23 obviously it was my rookie year it was the second game of the season uncan ocho i was playing behind Eric Williams, who was a small forward for the Boston Celsius at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 23 Well, he had, he injured his knee in the first game. So second game of the season, coach was like, We're going to start you at the two.
Speaker 23 It was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Big Dog.
Speaker 23
Oh, man, I came out there and had a time. You hear me? I put about 23.
Okay.
Speaker 23 Yeah, young rookie. I wasn't a little 20.
Speaker 23 I wasn't but 20 years old out there, man, out there, getting to it. You hear me? Yeah,
Speaker 23 you dropped a little 20 for a little easy 20 piece on them.
Speaker 23 Hey, look, see, all you need, especially when you're young like that, is
Speaker 23
to see those type of performances just to let you know, okay. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I'm putting it right here. I could do this.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
And next thing you know, boy, you be putting on the show.
Speaker 23 For real.
Speaker 23
I like it. Man, I just kept saying, man, man, they need to put me in.
They need to put me. I'll be saying, oh, Joe, man, they need to put me in.
I can make some plays. I can make some plays.
Yeah.
Speaker 23 Lord behold,
Speaker 23 they put you in. We're getting ready to play the Chiefs.
Speaker 23 We getting ready to play the Chiefs.
Speaker 23
Hey, the Chiefs got Albert Lewis. They got Kevin Ross.
They got Duron Cherry. They got Martin Bayless.
They got Neil Smith, Derek Thomas.
Speaker 23
Damn. Big Joe Phillips.
Oh, man. They got Percy Snow.
Yeah. I said, Dan Salamore, OJo.
Yeah. I say, I say, put me in, not against them.
Speaker 23 Let me go by that ain't them.
Speaker 23 They got like the number one, number two defense in all the football.
Speaker 23 So I'm like, yeah, we're going to put you, we're going to, we're going to start you and we're going to put you in. I said, oh,
Speaker 23 okay.
Speaker 23 I said, so, you know, I'm like, so what I'm going to do, so they said, hey, we want you to line up outside. Yeah.
Speaker 23 And
Speaker 23 we get into like five inside the five or the inside. We're going to throw you a fade.
Speaker 23 I'm like.
Speaker 23
Albert Lewis went to the Pro Bowl. Kevin Ross went to the Pro Bowl.
So you mean to tell me y'all going to put a rookie in and say, go run a fade on one of them? Yeah.
Speaker 23 Yeah, just jump up over the top of him.
Speaker 23 Y'all say that like that's easy.
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 23
Hold on, what happened? I ain't no better. I was like, oh, oh, Joe.
So I, hey, I told my brother, but your boy gonna get in the game. They gotta play for your boy.
What a call.
Speaker 23 Hey, they say, jump ball.
Speaker 23
Oh, I'll keep jump ball. You know what I'm saying? Oh, Joe.
Yeah.
Speaker 23 Okay.
Speaker 23 Joe, I get out there.
Speaker 23 They call it Rock because
Speaker 23
he was compact, but he was strong. He got his hands on you, you call hell getting off him.
Yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 23 they didn't, they didn't expect me to shake him like I did, yeah, because they thought it was gonna be physical, and so just throw a jump ball,
Speaker 23
Joe. How about I beat him off the ball? Clean you, I said, Okay, he's gonna lay it on the top.
I don't care that, ah, got him, yeah,
Speaker 23 he back shouldered. Oh, Joe, oh,
Speaker 23 so I really had to jump up on the top up to get it.
Speaker 23 Did you get it?
Speaker 23 i got it oh you caught it
Speaker 23 i caught it yeah
Speaker 23 hey hey hey i walk into the oh oh joe joe i walk into the line i said lord if you help me catch this ball you ain't gonna let me catch no more my whole career i don't make problems
Speaker 23 hey hey listen hey
Speaker 23 hey because ain't nothing
Speaker 23 i caught it though i caught it i caught it oh cho yeah and from that moment that gave me the confidence because i beat be the pro bowler for my very first touchdown.
Speaker 23
So that gave me the confidence that I belong. Yeah.
And I'm like, and I remember getting back, and I remember going to the side because
Speaker 23 everybody came and like, man, good job.
Speaker 23 That's the way to make a play.
Speaker 23 And seven, John told me, say, see, that's like you. You can do that.
Speaker 23 I said, I can do that?
Speaker 23
Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I'm him.
Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, that's me.
Wow. I don't know why y'all surprised.
I'm surprised.
Speaker 23 Guess what, On Joe?
Speaker 23
Hey, I tried to play it cool. Guess what, oh, Joe, hey, I was so good.
It's a get in there.
Speaker 23
They throw me a short cross. Guy hit me in the back.
I fumble it.
Speaker 23
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Speaker 23 They put me back in, they put me back in. Hey, you just got to hold on to the ball.
Speaker 23
It's going to happen quick. Oh, yeah.
Oh, Joe, I run now. I run a gold ball against Cover 2.
Yeah.
Speaker 23 Man, I'm talking about as soon as the ball hit my hands, you got it. Hit me in the back.
Speaker 23
I held on to it, though. Okay.
I held on to it, though, Ojo. Okay, help me.
I had to hit the ball and threw a yeah.
Speaker 23 That was, that was like,
Speaker 23 man,
Speaker 23 I really, I really, and come to find out, I go back and listen to the
Speaker 23
TV version of it. Yeah.
And they, and
Speaker 23
the announcer said, Coach Reeves is really high on this kid. Think this kid has a lot of potential.
Yeah.
Speaker 23 So he didn't tell me that.
Speaker 23 Oh, I got potential.
Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Speaker 23 Okay.
Speaker 23 Hey, one thing about it.
Speaker 23 Hey, Joe, I mean, Joe and Unk and those in the chat that have played sports, one thing about it, when you're not sure yourself, you know, and even if you are confident and you go out there and you perform well and whatever it is that you do,
Speaker 23 whatever your respective craft may be, and you make a play or you do something good, and then you do it again, and you start to build that confidence, once you got confidence, it's a wrap.
Speaker 23 It's a wrap from that point on, and you just stack them one on top of another. And
Speaker 23
at some point, it just becomes, it becomes natural. It becomes consistent.
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 23 Hey, look, as a rookie man you play so hard bro i'm talking about so hard because listen i just remember being out there on the court thinking like man i'm out here with playing against micah jordan tracy mcgrady
Speaker 23 i'm playing with antoan walker paul pierce like i remember being in so much of awe that i was like i i'm telling y'all bro i couldn't really sleep as a rookie like i used to be so geek for the moment like i couldn't wait i couldn't wait so you just wanted to play hard as crap because I never wanted coach to have a reason to take me out of the game.
Speaker 23
I don't care what it was. I was out there playing hard as I don't know and trying to get as many deflections as I can.
Hands everywhere. I ain't lying.
Speaker 23 Oh, that's funny. Hey, it's just like when you see,
Speaker 23 man, I remember the first time we played in Denver was a preseason game. We played the 49ers, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice.
Speaker 23 All them
Speaker 23
Roger Craig, John, all them just, I'm like, damn, I'm really on the field. I've really been in the family.
That's damn. That's Jerry.
I'm looking at Jerry like
Speaker 23 Joe Montana.
Speaker 23 Yeah. Damn, that's Ronnie Lott.
Speaker 23 Yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 23 I caught a touchdown in the preseason, Ocho, and then hit the hammer on him.
Speaker 23 Hold on. You were dancing in the preseason?
Speaker 23
Boy, look here. I'm from an HBCU.
I just caught a touchdown on the defending Super Bowl chair.
Speaker 23 I was
Speaker 23
crazy. Yeah.
Man, I was, man, I was, and it was televised. It was a Monday night game.
It was televised, oh choke. Yeah, they saw me.
Everybody in Savannah State, they know they watch it.
Speaker 23
My hometown, Glennville, they watching. I already know.
Man, man, I told y'all, I know Sharp, man, I told y'all Sharp liked that.
Speaker 23 Man, I bet I was so happy.
Speaker 23 i bet my uh my cell phone bill probably 700
Speaker 23 because you know back then cell phone bill they they charge you about a minute it was like three dollars a minute joe oh yeah yeah oh yeah
Speaker 23 it was like three four dollars a minute i mean a phone bill
Speaker 23 hey quick high that old had that big old brick too i don't know why i had a brick bro i was a seventh round draft pick nigga 64 000 i got a cell phone bill oh yeah the motorola the motorola eight uh eight eight something i know you're talking about yeah that big brick yeah they they had the big brick now they had the one that you had the uh you had the pouch you had to carry you had to carry like a pouch with it yeah yeah that you carry on your person you could just hit it yeah and then they came with the the portable what's her joke what was it was it was it free on the weekends
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could you come that came later at first it wasn't like that you had to pay and it was all like if you go out of the area It was Roman. So you had a Roman charge.
Roman charges. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 23 Man, the Roman charging, man, that thing be my.
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it'd be crazy. I ain't no.
Hey, let me tell you. I didn't know nothing about the Roman charge.
I just, hey, they didn't explain it to you back then, Ocho.
Speaker 23
They don't explain it to you now that this what you get. And if you go over your data, you got to pay extra.
They didn't explain it. Phone, this is what it costs.
Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 23
I ain't know nothing about Roman. I ain't know if you go out of the thing roaming with extra, like $6, and you get a call.
I'm big balling. Oh, you're taking my phone on the road.
Speaker 23
You got money. What? Hey, listen, I forgot.
I forgot. I forgot forgot what service provider.
You ain't got no money? Yeah, I forgot what service provider I was with, Joe and Uncle, but I understood.
Speaker 23 I forgot what I was with too, O.J. I had him explaining to me about the minutes.
Speaker 23 And they said, well, if you use a certain amount of minutes and you hold on to it, they don't use your phone that much this month, the minutes going to roll over.
Speaker 23
They roll over. Roll over to the next month.
I say, yeah.
Speaker 23
So I'm going to make sure I don't go over a certain amount of minutes. So I got a little bit extra going to the next month.
Joe, what hey, them was some days back then, boy.
Speaker 23
It don't work like that. You been a burned through the minutes so quick.
Quick. Man, what?
Speaker 23 You burn through the minutes so quick. And then, once they brought that weekend,
Speaker 23 after what, after seven o'clock, and weekend free.
Speaker 23 Hey, I call, hey, I call y'all at 705.
Speaker 23 You didn't get no calls during the day on the phone, on the phone, all night long.
Speaker 23
Hey, I call you when it's free. And then the weekend, wow, you blowing that thing up.
Hey, I'm married to this thing.
Speaker 23 Hey, to that thing get hot on the side of your head.
Speaker 23
Oh, yeah. Hold on.
And Joe, hey, Joe,
Speaker 23
don't have no girlfriend, though. On the weekend, y'all be on the phone.
You be on the phone all day, all night. Hold on.
You wake up, the phone's sitting on your chest. Hello?
Speaker 23 Oh, you still there?
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 23
Hey, boy, hey, there was some days. Hey, Joe, I know you did that.
It was a day, though, OG. It was a day that you ain't going to lie.
Come on now. Hey, on the phone all night long.
Speaker 23
Ain't don't be talking about nothing. Ain't talking about nothing.
Six, seven hours straight.
Speaker 23 Man.
Speaker 23
They made the phone, the phones got smaller, and they had the little clip that you have on your side, like that star ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the sidekick, too, yeah. Oh, man.
Yeah.
Speaker 23
Oh, them some good memories. Let me ask you this, Joe and Ocho.
Which game do you think will have the most views? Browns Raiders or Eagles Cowboys?
Speaker 23
Browns Raiders. Probably the Browns Raiders.
I mean, there's a lot of people, man. It's a lot of people looking forward to seeing Shadure play.
They are. Browns Raiders.
Speaker 23 You got to say, it's in the early window. So
Speaker 23
they're not really going head to head. Okay.
Because
Speaker 23
the Fox game, the Cowboys Eagles, I think, if I'm not mistaken. 425.
Is that 425? 425, right? And so what you call him is in that 105 window. Yeah.
So all of those. It's just the Cowboys, man.
Hey.
Speaker 23
Did you see all those Cowboy fans Monday night at that stadium? Oh, Joeyo. Yeah, I did.
Did you see all those cowboy fans?
Speaker 23
I flew out. We flew out, Jordan, I flew out on Tuesday morning.
Uh-huh.
Speaker 23
Joe, Ocho. I was like, hold on.
They fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta.
So I can just imagine the people going back to Dallas.
Speaker 23
I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there were so many Cowboy fans in that airport. So many Cowboy fans.
I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots, that jersey, jersey, CD jersey.
Speaker 23 I'm like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 23
People traveling, man. They travel.
Hey, the Steelers. Oh, man.
They love the Cowboys. Hey, the Steelers.
Hold on. They're both in the late.
Oh, actually,
Speaker 23 they moved them.
Speaker 23
The Coast Chief is in the early window. So the Coast Chief is the one o'clock game.
And now the
Speaker 23
Browns Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in the same 425 window. Oh, shit.
It's going to be interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 23 I still think the Browns and and Raiders are gonna have the most views, and the way they do that, see, you can't get what you call them, like sometimes you can have they have, okay, you can watch this game, this game, this game, this game, they're not finna do it with these two games.
Speaker 23 You gotta get a pick, you gotta get the pick,
Speaker 23 hey, look, why it's so hard to watch the game now, man. You got to download eight apps,
Speaker 23 you sure do.
Speaker 23 Guess what, Joe?
Speaker 23 Guess what? When that new contract comes up, you have to download some more. Yeah,
Speaker 23 that's how they get
Speaker 23 Netflix, but Netflix. netflix netflix gonna want to package
Speaker 23 that's how they get it
Speaker 23 that that's how these franchise you see all these franchises how they skyrocket in prices i mean uh a broncos owner just he he just bought the broncos for four and a half million now they're worth 6.8 billion in five six years they've increased 2.3 billion dollars The Cowboys worth, what, 11, 12, 13 billion.
Speaker 23 Jerry bought it for $135, $140 million.
Speaker 23 Hey, that's why because the revenue, there's nothing. Look, there are a lot of sports.
Speaker 23
There's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move the needle in North America like NFL football. Now folks love some football.
And for two reasons,
Speaker 23 fantasy and sports betting.
Speaker 23 Because you watch it intently. Are they going to cover Ocho? And then now the prop bets? Man, sometimes you don't even care about the game.
Speaker 23
I just want to see a CD get six catches. I just want to see a CD get 75 yards.
I want to see what Chase that.
Speaker 23 Hey, that's why I had to stop. That's what I care about.
Speaker 23 I try to get these props.
Speaker 23 Hey, look, Uncle Ocho, that's why I have to stop betting. I can't watch the game in peace because I got my.
Speaker 23 I'm like, man, and look, it's like when you're watching it intensely like that, you ain't never going to hit. But boy, let you mess around, make a bed, and end up falling asleep or something.
Speaker 23 Boy, you'd be right on the number.
Speaker 23 Every time I came,
Speaker 23 I had to stop watching. I had to stay.
Speaker 23
That's how they do when you play the cash three of the cash. Hey, I know you happy.
Happy about what?
Speaker 23 I know you happy. I know
Speaker 23 your birthday came. I said, what? What birthday? That was my sister called me.
Speaker 23 Yeah, I know you probably had it. I said, had what?
Speaker 23 Your birthday. I said, huh? My birthday hit?
Speaker 23
0626, Cash 4. I had, you know what I'm saying? I don't know.
I had a it straight in straight box.
Speaker 23
Yeah. A little cool, a little cool 12,500.
A little 12,500 I hit. Yeah.
Then the cash three, my aunt's birthday, 7-11. Yeah.
Speaker 23
I played it. I had it 10 times straight.
It came. That's 5,000.
They tried to run it back past me, Joe, the next day, because I played it that evening on Sunday. And I played it again.
Speaker 23
Broke on say, you know what? Y'all go for fake. Y'all sleep.
Y'all gonna try to run it back again. Hey, guess what? They came and brought it right back.
Speaker 23 Brought it right back, joe and guess what i was sitting on it again
Speaker 23 another 5 000 yeah joe they can't get no bounds
Speaker 23 matter of fact you know what i'm gonna do that now you just gave me an idea you know i'm gonna play my i'm gonna play my grandma and my mama birthdays
Speaker 23 i'm gonna play my grandma and my mama birthdays probably play you know maybe do do the year they were born yeah i'm gonna go play i don't know that's no that's normally what yeah that's normally what i do you play your birthday if you play it you know you can play it straight combo straight box i played i played it i played it straight I had it two times straight and one-time combo.
Speaker 23 Combo probably cost you $2 because it's extra because now anywhere it comes, those numbers come. It could come 6620.
Speaker 23 It could come 6602, any combination, and you'll get half of what you normally would get. So,
Speaker 23 oh, yeah,
Speaker 23 I'll hit it. I hit a lick on it.
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Speaker 18 Oh Joe, Joe, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night. Jamar Chase was suspended one game.
Speaker 18 The one game suspension will cost him over half a million dollars, $448,333 in a game check and $58,824 in an active roster bonus.
Speaker 18 Chase plans to appeal and argue this one-game suspension, claiming that if it was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the man's jersey, the ground.
Speaker 18 Oh, Joe,
Speaker 18 oh Cho, that's not, come on, Ramsey. I mean, come on, Chase.
Speaker 23 He didn't even talk to the media, huh?
Speaker 18 Hello, that's what in Rapperport said: is that he said if he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spinning his face and not on the jersey, the ground.
Speaker 23 Yeah, I don't think he said that because he declined to talk to the media, he declined to talk to everybody today.
Speaker 23 Obviously, you know, once you get out of watching film on Mondays, he declined to talk to everybody.
Speaker 23 What? Yes, well, even Rapport Department, but if he hadn't heard it from his team.
Speaker 18 I guess his team put that out. But anyway,
Speaker 18 I don't know how, I don't know. But first of all,
Speaker 18 you said you didn't spit.
Speaker 18
So whether you were spitting on the ground or you would have did X, Y, and Z, you said you didn't spit. That's what you said.
You said that after the game. Yeah.
Speaker 18 Now,
Speaker 18 all that, oh, Joe, you know they shoot everything. Man, you know they shoot everything in 4K?
Speaker 18 And you could actually see it?
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 18 Yeah.
Speaker 23 Mm-hmm.
Speaker 18 You could see pimbles on an ant booty from the moon. That's how good the cameras are, Ocho.
Speaker 23
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Chase. Absolutely.
Appeal it.
Speaker 18 But I mean, I just think you should, you know, call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry. My emotions got the best of me and leave.
Speaker 18 And because
Speaker 18
this one incident, this is not you. I don't believe this is you.
I'm surprised that.
Speaker 18 we're actually having ocho and i'm having this conversation and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared in this i wouldn't have believed it If you would have been the very last person, they said a receiver.
Speaker 18 There are some other names I might have would have went to, but I wouldn't have been.
Speaker 18 I wouldn't have put that at you. I wouldn't have put that on you.
Speaker 18 So
Speaker 18 I hope that's what Ian Rappaport said,
Speaker 18 his team said, or he said. I don't believe it.
Speaker 18 I'm going to say, let's just say, but for the sake of, but
Speaker 18 you did spit on him. Whether you would have, what you would have done, you spit on the man.
Speaker 18 And
Speaker 18 it's going to cost you, but you'll learn from it.
Speaker 18 I don't believe this is the type of person that you are. We've all done things that
Speaker 18 finest moment.
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 18 And I don't think this moment should define Jamar Chase.
Speaker 18 There are going to be a lot of other moments that we can look back and define
Speaker 18 Jamar Chase with. This is not going to be your defining moment.
Speaker 18 But
Speaker 18 the best apology, Ocho, is change behavior. Don't let something like this happen again, and we're going to be good, bro.
Speaker 23 The funny thing about it, when we talk about James, when we talk about change behavior when it comes to players, I'm not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general.
Speaker 23
The change behavior, most of the time, you know, he's going to make you forget about it on the field. Yes.
He's going to make you forget about it on the field.
Speaker 23
And we never had problems out of Chase off the field anyway. No, you don't.
Never had a problem from him.
Speaker 23 So when you think of a hypothetical, if this scenario or this situation ever happened and you just thought of some players that it would come from, it wouldn't come from him because he's he's one who causes no problems the problem he caused is on the field it's correct as hell that's it that's why that's why i struggle that's why you struggle yeah because you know him better than i do and there was never any indication he's so laid back he's so if you watch him when he does an interview he's sitting back he chill he's sitting back like this here all the time yeah
Speaker 18
So he and the little bit that I've been around him, I've been around him a couple times doing the autograph signing. I saw him at the Super Bowl.
He's a chill guy.
Speaker 18 He's not one of these high-strung guys that, you know,
Speaker 18 that's liable to go off. He's really mild-mannered.
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 18 So that's why it's so surprising. But,
Speaker 18
you know, look, like I said, you know, this season was supposed to be different. They missed the playoff last year.
He had the triple crown.
Speaker 18 He's the first triple crown since my brother to win that and not make the playoffs.
Speaker 18 My brother won the triple crown in 92. They didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 18
He won the triple crown in 24. They didn't.
So almost 30, almost, well, over 30 years.
Speaker 18 So it doesn't happen often because there's not a whole lot of people that win the triple crown.
Speaker 18 It's hard.
Speaker 18 So
Speaker 18
you got to have the most catches, yards, and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC, but the AFC as well. Sometimes you can have yards.
Sometimes you can have catches.
Speaker 18 And then somebody nips you with touchdowns.
Speaker 18 He had both. It's kind of like winning the triple crown in baseball.
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 18 Yeah, you could have a 380 batting average, but you got 40 home runs and somebody got 50.
Speaker 18
Or somebody drives in 135. That's why it doesn't happen that often.
Mickey Cabrera was the last one. Then you got to go all the way back to Yaz.
Speaker 18 Wait, who? Call you Skrimpsky.
Speaker 23
Okay, okay. Yeah.
And they say who?
Speaker 23 Okay.
Speaker 18 Yeah.
Speaker 18 So, or the same thing in horse racing. You know, hey, you might win that first two,
Speaker 18 but that mile and a half at the Belmont's.
Speaker 23 That's it, that's hell, boy.
Speaker 18
Yeah. If you notice, now a lot of horses just like, hey, forget it.
They just
Speaker 18
like, I don't even worry about it. Hey, we win the Kentucky Derby.
We'll skip the preakness. We'll see you at the Belmont.
Speaker 23 Right.
Speaker 18
I mean, it was such a long time. And then, I mean, because everybody thought it was easy.
You get Secretary in 73, and then you get Seattle Saloo in a firm back-to-back year, 77, 78.
Speaker 18
And then it's like, well, man, it's too hard. It's too hard.
It's too hard. And then you get American Pharaoh do it.
And then you come back with Justify. Bob Baffert two horses.
Yeah.
Speaker 18
It's hard. It's hard.
You probably had more triple crown winners in baseball than you had in horse racing.
Speaker 23 And it's difficult.
Speaker 18 Hell yeah, for sure.
Speaker 23 And
Speaker 23 you've been to the Kentucky Derby before?
Speaker 18 I've been, Ocho. We got a.
Speaker 18
It's all about, ocho, it's all about the hat. Yes, for a man and a woman, it's all about.
I've seen women come with some hats and be barefooted
Speaker 18 to be
Speaker 18 barefooted. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 18 I'm talking because it normally, I don't know, for some reason it normally rains, yeah,
Speaker 18 but
Speaker 18
oh, these lady have these hats. I mean, one lady had a hat.
I mean, this hat was way out here like this here.
Speaker 18 You know, your boy would have to have a hat.
Speaker 23 Oh, yeah, you, hey, hey, young, you was at that shop?
Speaker 18 Huh?
Speaker 23 You a shaw?
Speaker 18 If a fly lit on, if a fly would have landed on my Ocho, I'd have cut his throat.
Speaker 18
You see, you messing me up. You messing up the ensemble.
Yeah, I'm a clean Ocho.
Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 23 I've been there a few times. Obviously, when I was in Cincinnati,
Speaker 23 it's right down the street.
Speaker 18 As a matter of fact, hell, I flew into Cincinnati and drove over. Drove down? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 23
Yeah. Right down the street, man.
It's a great event. I only did it one time.
You know,
Speaker 18 I'm not in that kind of that's that's where i met i met um i met bob bafford okay him and his son uh at the time i met uh rest his soul i think d-wayne lucas uh
Speaker 18 i met a couple of them
Speaker 18 it's a great it's great as a it's an awesome sport it's unbelievable oh joe because it was it was on my bucket list like you know i i've been to a world series obviously i've been to a super bowl um
Speaker 18
the Kentucky Derby. I want to do Daytona 500.
I went to
Speaker 18 Wimbledon. I love
Speaker 18 it. Listen,
Speaker 23
do me a favor. Do to give yourself some justice so you can understand the experience.
When you go to the Daytona 500, do not let them put you in a suite.
Speaker 23 You need to sit in the stand so you can get the
Speaker 18 feeling go ride that track.
Speaker 23
Yes, yes. You got to be able to experience it.
You got to feel those cars coming around. You know, the energy, the aura, the stands.
You got to, oh, man, it's unit's crazy, man.
Speaker 18 It's crazy. I mean, it's something about when you feel, when you feel 800 horsepower, and it's 42 of those cars, and they're going 180, 190 miles an hour, and they're this close.
Speaker 18
They're this close. Yeah.
And those cars are damn near upside down.
Speaker 18 Unbelievable. Hey, boy.
Speaker 18 They bump draft.
Speaker 18
That's a rest your soul, the terminator. Dale Earnhardt.
Boom, boom. Slingshot down in the back.
Oh, man. I got to see that one.
I got to see that.
Speaker 18
I want to see Wilmina because I went to see, I saw the U.S. Open.
I saw Serena.
Speaker 18 She just got married to
Speaker 18 a couple of years ago to David Lee.
Speaker 18 She,
Speaker 18
the Dane, the tennis player. She married David Lee, the basketball player.
I saw her and Serena play semifinal at the U.S. Open on a Saturday night.
What's her name?
Speaker 18
Wozniaki. Yep.
She married David Lee. I think they got a couple of kids.
Because
Speaker 18 I just saw them in Vegas. Maybe for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 18 David Lee, Michael Phelps and his wife. And it was David Lee and Wozniaki.
Speaker 18 But man, Ocho, I got it.
Speaker 18
Yeah, you look at your boy. Hey, your boy without a cleaner.
Hey, Philipsucker.
Speaker 23 Hey, boy, you clean, eh?
Speaker 23
You see that boy and flip sucker. I see you.
Okay. You clean.
Speaker 18 Look,
Speaker 18
something I pulled out. I was in a hurry.
Was in a hurry. All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on,
Speaker 18
hey, look, it's April. Oh, Joe, we're about to jump down.
Hey, Club Shay Shape, I mean, a nightcap might have to go on the road at the Derby.
Speaker 23 Listen, I get my hat ready right now.
Speaker 18 Don't fail me.
Speaker 23 Hey, because you know when it comes to putting them things on, you know,
Speaker 23 I put that, you know, what on, man.
Speaker 23 I'm ready.
Speaker 18 Yeah, we're about to have to go and do little something, oh, Joe. We're about to go and do something, do something.
Speaker 23
Hey, speaking, speaking of horses in Kentucky Derby, my daughter, my daughter, Cha-Cha, she plays tennis. Unknown, she's phenomenal.
She's
Speaker 23
phenomenal. And she loves horses.
I tell my love, she said,
Speaker 23
I'm going to blame her mama. I'm going to blame my mama.
We went riding horses this past weekend, a weekend before last.
Speaker 23
She asked me all about types of horses and telling me about saddles. And I'm like, man, where in the world you learn all this stuff at? I took my, she's really into it.
So I'm like, okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 23 Okay.
Speaker 18 Being in your pockets too. Hey, listen.
Speaker 23 So as soon as we finish riding, you know, the first thing, Christmas coming up so the first thing i do i'm talking to the lady we on the trail we riding i asked the train i say um
Speaker 23 you know what horses run how much they cost okay
Speaker 23 a thousand fifteen hundred for something simple okay
Speaker 23 please no i ain't getting i ain't getting nothing too expensive now you know she she she she she young now so i'm like okay what about boarding what about feeding do they have places do they have places out yeah that's where you spend the money yo well they have boarding it's like yeah that's what yes
Speaker 23 there's boarding so i ask her i say well listen i'm gonna leave my information and you know send it to me and the numbers and what it costs uh weekly monthly and for the year and i'm thinking about you know getting my daughter i'm thinking about get a uh passafino i don't want nothing none too big i want something a little small where the ride is smooth and a posafino would be perfect for her
Speaker 23 yeah i'm just curious i'm kind of excited I'm kind of excited for her because she loved him so much.
Speaker 23 And I think that would be one of the best breast surprises for one of one of my 85 on christmas morning the thing is oh cho is that yeah you get a horse for a decent price you probably spend 1500 maybe five thousand dollars on a horse what you got to put into it completely different but to board it and defeated yes Yeah, but see, and to also, you had to understand, where I live in Miami, out that way, you know, because I'm further out up north and west a little bit, ain't nothing out there but horses and stables.
Speaker 23
That's it. And when you think Miami, you think South beats, you know, all the nice stuff.
But I'm out there in the, I don't even know what you want to call it.
Speaker 23 You know, you go to Walmart, you go to Target, and when you're driving, it's people riding horses up and down the street, like we in goddamn Texas.
Speaker 23 Yeah, I'm serious. That's how far out I am from everybody.
Speaker 18 The New York Jets, Ocho, are benching Justin Fields for backup Tyrod Taylor. The move comes following the 27-14 loss to Patriots last Thursday night.
Speaker 18 the game in which Phils threw for 116 yards on 15 of 26 passing. Phil signed a two-year, $40 million deal with the Jets last spring.
Speaker 18 The contract guarantees him $20 million in 25 and another $10 million in 26. Ocho,
Speaker 18 does this benchmark that the Justin Fields experiment is officially over?
Speaker 23 Yes,
Speaker 23
it does. And I hate that for young Bull.
I'm just going to be honest. I hate that for him.
And not only is the experiment over,
Speaker 23 it puts the Jets back in the same position that they've been in for a very long time since Joe Namath. It's in search of a quarterback number one.
Speaker 23 They're back in search of quarterback number one.
Speaker 23 I really was pulling for Justin Fields and hoping this would be his season to have his own team.
Speaker 23
Things didn't go well with the Bears. He went to Pittsburgh.
We saw flashes.
Speaker 23 We saw flashes of brilliance leading that Pittsburgh Steelers team offensively to a 4-2 record before he was benched for Russell Wilson that Mike Tomlin had said would be the starter once he gets back healthy.
Speaker 23
Now, Justin Fields, this is your team. You quarterback number one.
You have nothing to worry about. You don't have to look over your shoulder.
You can play freely.
Speaker 23 You know, just minimize your mistakes, protect the ball, and try to run that offense as efficient as you possibly can. And
Speaker 23 to this point, we're in week 10 damn near, if I'm not mistaken. Week 10, yeah,
Speaker 18 yeah, we're about to head into week 12.
Speaker 23 Oh, shit, bro, we in week 12, and just no, week 13, uh, yeah, this is week 12, yeah, yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 23 yeah, week 12, yeah, at this point, based on the numbers, uh, what you've seen, we've talked about it all the time, you know, having games where you got 20, 30 yards at the half, yeah, man, come on, man, 45 yards past it, an NFL quarterback, yeah, you okay, okay, once I get that.
Speaker 18 But Ocho, 45.
Speaker 18 Back to back. Man, no.
Speaker 23 And
Speaker 23 sometimes when I think about it, Uncle, it's like sometimes I think they're sabotaging him, you know, but I know that's not the case.
Speaker 23 I know that's not the case because they can only sabotage you so much, you know.
Speaker 23 No, it hurt. I hurt for young Bull because
Speaker 23 he really wanted the opportunity to be quarterback number one, and
Speaker 23 it just hadn't panned out or worked out.
Speaker 18 No.
Speaker 23 It hadn't even been close. The Jets is probably one of the worst situations to go to because
Speaker 23 you have to be that much better at the quarterback position than everything around you.
Speaker 23 You got to be able to elevate everybody else around you, and he's not that kind of quarterback.
Speaker 23 Man.
Speaker 18 Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams couldn't help him.
Speaker 23 Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 23 That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 18 So
Speaker 18 you put that green and white on, you already know.
Speaker 23 Damn.
Speaker 23
Well, listen, Tyrod, you know, proven veteran. Tyrod gonna get in there.
And the one thing about him, you know, he's gonna move that.
Speaker 18 Oh, you're gonna let it buy now.
Speaker 18 Tyrod will let it go.
Speaker 23 He's gonna move that ball too.
Speaker 23 He's gonna move that ball.
Speaker 23 I wonder who the just got to speak.
Speaker 18 Who the just play?
Speaker 18 Ravens. The Ravens.
Speaker 23 Oh, hell, no, shit.
Speaker 18 Hey,
Speaker 18
in Baltimore, Tyrod La. Hey, that's what Tyrod started.
Remember, Tyrod was the backup to Joe Blacko.
Speaker 23
Yeah, the Joe. Yeah, yep, I remember.
Yep, sure was.
Speaker 18
And he started the Buffalo. He took Buffalo to the playoffs.
People forget that.
Speaker 23
That's right. Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Speaker 23 Yes.
Speaker 18 Jeffrey Simmons said he's tired of sugarcoating things and is sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say.
Speaker 18 We need to be better. I mean, we can't keep sitting up here saying the same thing, trying to sugarcoat us for the media, for anybody.
Speaker 13 And I said it in the locking room. I said it on the field.
Speaker 18
I'm tired of sugarcoating. I mean, we need to be better.
At the end of the day, we need to protect Cam better.
Speaker 18 I was feeling as a defense when knowing if you give up two touchdowns or whatever, that's going to be hard to win. Man, at the end of the day, it's about complimenting football.
Speaker 18 We have to play better team football.
Speaker 18 Sometimes the offense can be playing good. Sometimes the defense, how can we play good as a team three-face?
Speaker 18
We're not playing good team football right now and showing. And Mike said it in practice Friday.
We had freaking four or false starts Friday. We playing at home.
We shouldn't have a minifale starts.
Speaker 18 Don't care.
Speaker 18
I'm tired of Taylor's feelings. I'm tired of losing.
That's what I'm tired of doing.
Speaker 23 Ooh, man, he's frustrated, boy.
Speaker 18
Yeah, yeah. He's talking about the offensive line.
He's like, how do we have that many false starts if we play it at home?
Speaker 23 And at home, yeah, you shouldn't have any because the noise is on your side. Or the lack of noise is on your side, especially when the offense is out there on the field.
Speaker 23
It shouldn't be any issues. I understand what he's saying.
And the key word that he kept saying over and over is complementary. You know?
Speaker 23 Offense play well, defense play well. There has to be some type of balance on both sides.
Speaker 23 Now, you're not going to execute on every, every, every single drive, not every single drive, but meet me halfway, meet me halfway, keep us off the field for a little bit.
Speaker 23 Don't go three and out 30 goddamn three times.
Speaker 23
I'm just throwing that number out there, but in general, the defense is tired. Give us a chance to rest.
Let's put together some drives, some consecutive drives together. You know,
Speaker 23 give us a chance. They're not even with the way they're playing, they're not even getting themselves a chance to win games.
Speaker 18
Now it's a little bit. I'm not in a position to get the number one pick again next this year.
I mean, in 26, Ocho.
Speaker 23 Yeah.
Speaker 18 And my dog.
Speaker 18 And now, my dog. You got to suck to get the back-to-back number one picks.
Speaker 23 Hey, that's tough.
Speaker 18
Well, hell, you know how bad you are to have that. You in the old Bengals territory.
You are in old
Speaker 18 Colts' territory. Yeah.
Speaker 18 Because you know y'all did that, right, Ocho?
Speaker 23 Who?
Speaker 18 The Bengals.
Speaker 23 Oh, yeah, yeah, that Bengals was bad.
Speaker 18 Johnny Carter, Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson.
Speaker 23 Hey, the Bengals was bad, huh? I'm talking about back then.
Speaker 18 You do realize
Speaker 18 I was in the league where y'all were terrible.
Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 18
y'all come a long way, Ocho. Yeah, we have.
Yeah, the Colts was terrible, too. Don't hey, the Patriots was terrible, too.
Terrible, you know, a lot of terrible terribles. They were bad.
They were bad.
Speaker 23 Hey, but
Speaker 23 Tennessee got a long way to go, huh? You know how bad you had to.
Speaker 23 home. You heard me?
Speaker 18 You know how bad you had to be to get or say the team.
Speaker 18 Hold on.
Speaker 18 Ooh, we
Speaker 18 totally
Speaker 18
think of. Oh, you're trying to think who's the last team to have back-to-back number one overall picks.
So, like we said, like the Bengals
Speaker 18 did with a Kajala, I think it was Kajana Carter and Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson.
Speaker 18 The same team did it twice, yes.
Speaker 23 Damn!
Speaker 23 What happened?
Speaker 18 The same team has done it twice.
Speaker 23 Who was that?
Speaker 23 Kendall's a very great dog.
Speaker 18 They would have
Speaker 18 done it twice. Back-to-back, number one, overall.
Speaker 23 Oh, just the Bengals? No, no, no.
Speaker 23 You both the team or you both the years?
Speaker 18 Oh, you give me the years. I'm probably going to get it.
Speaker 18 Brown stood it twice. Oh, yeah, with
Speaker 18 Tim Couch and the guy from Penn State.
Speaker 23 Oh, Cleveland.
Speaker 18 Oh, yeah. Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett.
Speaker 23 Oh.
Speaker 18 What was the defensive line with Courtney Brown?
Speaker 18 Because Courtney, if I'm not mistaken, I think Courtney went one, and what you call him went two.
Speaker 18 Didn't he?
Speaker 18 Yeah,
Speaker 18 didn't LeBarg go two to Washington after Courtney? Because they was on the same team, I think. Just like
Speaker 18 the Colts had the first two picks, and they took Steve Entman and they took the guy from Texas AM
Speaker 18 Quentin Coriak.
Speaker 18 Yeah, 40 Browns and the Browns, LeBars to the Downs.
Speaker 18
To Washington, yeah. But they have back there, LeBar and Curry Samuels, two or three.
Wow.
Speaker 18 Chris Samuels, the offensive lineman.
Speaker 18 Yeah.
Speaker 18 Man.
Speaker 18 Yeah, it's tough, Ocho. And
Speaker 18 that's where you got to have real strong leadership. Because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't pulling their weight,
Speaker 18 frustrations frustration starting to bubble yeah tennessee you gotta have some real real real real strong uh uh um
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