BEST OF NFL Week 12 Part 1: Malik Nabers DISSES entire Giants coaching staff, Chip Kelly FIRED, Eagles a DISASTER waiting to happen?!

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Speaker 29 The Lions beat the Giants in overtime. Jameer Gilles ran for a 69-yard touchdown on the first snap of overtime, had a career high, 264 yards from scrimmage to go along with three scores.

Speaker 29 Giants interim head coach Mike Kafka helped Detroit too.

Speaker 29 Kafka went for it on fourth and goal from the sixth when his team slumping, leading by three, instead of kicking a short field goal that would have forced Detroit to score a touchdown.

Speaker 29 Giants, Malik Walker, let his frustration be known on Twitter as Malik Neighbors. What did I say? Malik.

Speaker 29 Malik Neighbors let his frustration be known on Twitter as he called out his team decision

Speaker 29 making against the Giants overtime. This is what he tweeted, Ocho.
Sometimes I think they be making us lose on purpose because ain't no way.

Speaker 29 For you to throw the ball instead of running it and make them burn them two time outs. Then you don't kick the field goal.
Then you have to go down and score. Football common sense.

Speaker 29 The tweet was quickly deleted.

Speaker 29 First,

Speaker 29 Jameer Gibbs, Ocho, man, this is college. You don't normally run the ball 15 times for 219 yards.

Speaker 29 15 for 219, two touchdowns. And then he caught another 11 for 45 on 12 targets.
Ahmed Roth St. Brown had nine for a buck 49 of a touchdown.

Speaker 29 They look,

Speaker 29 Jameis, 18 of 36, 366, two tubs, one pick.

Speaker 29 Garner Oszewski hit,

Speaker 29 man, what you call him, what did that touchdown so bad? Who, Jameis? Jameis, what did that touchdown so bad?

Speaker 28 He wasn't going down, huh?

Speaker 29 Dah, hell, dawg.

Speaker 28 He wasn't going down.

Speaker 28 But Jameis, so funny, Unk, man. Just having him out there on the field, man,

Speaker 28 playing with such a smile. He's so entertaining, so infectious.
You know, I'm happy for him, obviously.

Speaker 28 I'm not sure if he's starting next week, but if he is starting next week, again, I'm going to be tuned in.

Speaker 28 I'm going be tuned in because just just seeing him out there man it brings just a joy for me you know as as someone that can't play the game anymore i get to vicariously live it through watching him play man but uh this hey that young bull wandell robinson wandell

Speaker 28 a day nine for a buck 56 on a tub boy you showed up today boy Boy, you showed up today.

Speaker 28 I don't know where you've been, but they need to give you more targets. They need to continue to put you in positions to make them plays.
God damn, boy, you was cutting the date, boy.

Speaker 28 You the real, you real deal.

Speaker 29 And the guy that closed the deal at the end of the game, Aiden Hutchinson, got the sack to preserve the victory.

Speaker 29 Ocho, we're starting to see a shift. We're starting to see athletes publicly question their own team.
Whereas before, Ocho, we might get like, damn, I don't know what that call was, man.

Speaker 29 I don't know what that was. Right, right, right.
And I don't know why we did that in that situation.

Speaker 29 But these guys, as you saw, Malik neighbors, he put it out there, like, bro, what the hell are you doing? Yeah, run the football, make them burn them timeouts, kick the field goal. We go up by six.

Speaker 29 Now they need to score a touchdown in order to beat us.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I don't understand.

Speaker 28 I'm confused. I was thinking it.
I mean, I wouldn't tweet it if it was my team, but can you please explain the reason of why they would do that?

Speaker 29 No, offer without explanation.

Speaker 29 I guess he said, Look, bad. He's not wrong.
Ocho,

Speaker 29 we two and nine.

Speaker 29 We two and nine. We got an opportunity to beat the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 29 That's how he's looking at it. But your defense had done a great job up until that point.

Speaker 28 Very good job.

Speaker 29 I'm going to kick the field goal.

Speaker 29 Maybe if at the one-yard line, Ocho, I would consider it. But not from the six.
Nah.

Speaker 29 Not from the six. That's crazy.
Now, if we're at the one-yard line, we got scat pack. Hey, I'm going to give it to Scat Pack.
I'm going to give it to Scatterbowl.

Speaker 29 I can live with it. But in this situation like this,

Speaker 29 I get the frustration.

Speaker 29 Mike Kafka, the interim head coach, is like, man, look here,

Speaker 29 we're going for it.

Speaker 29 But they played, I mean,

Speaker 29 they played as well as they could

Speaker 29 for as long as they could. Yeah.
They did. And

Speaker 29 it wasn't enough, Ocho.

Speaker 28 It wasn't enough, honestly the giants fought boy

Speaker 28 that was a very that was a very exciting game a game that i thought the giants were were going to continue to pull away from i thought they were going to keep pulling away but they and them goddamn lions wouldn't go nowhere man that goddamn jameer gibbs man might might be the closest thing we have in today's game that's similar to Chris Johnson.

Speaker 29 That's what I was about to say.

Speaker 28 He's out. How you outrunning the goddamn angle?

Speaker 29 How you outrunning the angle?

Speaker 29 The angle 20 yards deep.

Speaker 28 You're not supposed to be able to do that unless you really, really, you got to be Tyreek fast.

Speaker 28 I'm thinking he might be up there with Tyreek when it comes to speed.

Speaker 29 Ocho, I think for me, I was like,

Speaker 29 when he hit through the hole, I say, boy, if somebody don't, if somebody don't, you cannot let, he's a guy that with that kind of speed, Ocho, you got to make him chop his feet.

Speaker 29 Yeah, but you can't let him be. Ocho.

Speaker 28 You got to.

Speaker 29 First of all, he's already eight yards deep. You're going to let him hit the hole.
You're going to let him get to the line of scrimmage. He damn near the full sprint.

Speaker 28 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 29 He's damned in a full sprint. So now, by the time he gets, by the time he gets to where the linebacker is supposed to be, yeah,

Speaker 29 it's a wrap. And the safety, the Ocho cut, the safety, I don't want to over, I don't want to overrun him and then have him cut back.

Speaker 29 So I got to try to, I got to try to, I got to try to, I got to try to damn he in the end zone.

Speaker 28 It's too late. It's too late, huh?

Speaker 28 Because what, listen, listen once them guards come off and they engage and goddamn jameer get and get to that second level clean yes you done as a safety if you ain't closed the gap you have no choice you got to shoot you got to shoot because if he if he square you up or he catch an angle unless you got you you got to be just as fast as him in order to catch him

Speaker 29 Yeah,

Speaker 29 they ain't got no safety as fast as him.

Speaker 29 I wonder what his speed hit. He hit 22 miles an hour.

Speaker 28 You think so?

Speaker 29 I think so, yeah.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he had to,

Speaker 28 especially on that long one. He had to.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah. He, hey, man, he's special.
Special. Nice.
He got to be over a thousand yards now, isn't he?

Speaker 28 After the after tonight, after tonight, he definitely got to be over a thousand.

Speaker 29 He got to be because he just went crazy. Didn't he go crazy last week?

Speaker 28 The week before, yeah.

Speaker 28 I don't know if that includes today.

Speaker 29 951.

Speaker 28 Damn, that's it?

Speaker 28 I don't know if that includes today.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 29 We'll have it updated because we don't know if it included today because

Speaker 29 he been doing something kind of special.

Speaker 29 Jags, Eagles, Falcons.

Speaker 28 Damn, I can't believe the Bengals lost, man.

Speaker 29 I can't. It's the Bengal.

Speaker 28 We almost had that game, though.

Speaker 29 Oh.

Speaker 29 Jameel Gill's about to get paid.

Speaker 29 This year, 30

Speaker 29 year?

Speaker 28 It is?

Speaker 29 It includes today? Yeah.

Speaker 29 So it's 10th of the yards, but he's fourth in the total shop. Yeah, but he ain't got nearly the carries that those other guys got.

Speaker 29 He's 17 for carries. Yeah.

Speaker 29 man, this

Speaker 29 that's what's happened Ocho, you know what it is, Ocho. When you lose, you find ways to lose.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Teams that win find ways to win. Win, yeah.
The Giants just found another way to lose.

Speaker 29 I mean.

Speaker 28 Hey, that play caller was iffy, I'm just going to be honest.

Speaker 28 This is why people question.

Speaker 28 This is why people question sometime.

Speaker 29 You heard me?

Speaker 28 with games like today, or this, the decision-making coaches and game, this is why they question if the games be rigged or not. Because why would you, why would you make the decisions that you made,

Speaker 28 you know, and now you got your own player calling calling it out?

Speaker 29 And I think he deleted it right away because somebody oh, he did it, but hey, Ocho, you know what happened when you press in? Yeah, you can't get it. Somebody done screenshotted it.

Speaker 28 Oh, yeah, it's too late. Yeah, too late then.

Speaker 29 You can't, even hey you can't press send and then put delete you can't hit it fast enough

Speaker 28 i just i just i don't i don't i i i'm i'm i'm with malik though like what are you doing like what yeah i would i'm with malik

Speaker 29 i'm with i'm with malik to myself or to my family yeah i ain't gonna say it i ain't put i can't put that out there there oh joe

Speaker 29 oh uh hell nah

Speaker 29 But man, Gibbs was sensational today, man. This dude, this, he ridiculous.

Speaker 28 He ridiculous.

Speaker 29 He up there and catches because I think this is his second double-digit. How many catches he got? Because remember the other day, Ocho, he had 140-something yards receiving.
Receiving.

Speaker 29 And like 80 yards, like 70, 80 yards rushing.

Speaker 28 You know what? You know what he likes? He damn near like, he's a dual threat like

Speaker 28 Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 29 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 29 He got more speed than McCaffrey, though.

Speaker 28 Oh, yeah, absolutely. Of course.

Speaker 28 Ain't even close.

Speaker 29 Yeah, he got speed to burn.

Speaker 29 Oh, Joe, Caleb Williams throws for three touchdowns as the Bears beat the Steelers 31-28 with Aaron Rodgers on the sideline.

Speaker 29 Rodgers is 25-5 against the Bears from the long tenure in Green Bay, counting the playoff.

Speaker 29 He once famously turned the crowd at Soldier Field and screamed that he still owns Chicago, but didn't get an opportunity to play today to show off that's still the case.

Speaker 29 Instead, the NFC North leading Bears, 8-3, won for the eighth time in nine games. Caleb Williams, 19 of 35, 239, three touchdowns.
They didn't run the ball about four yards of carry.

Speaker 29 DJ Moore had five catches, 64 yards, two touchdowns.

Speaker 29 Dunesay had some big catches. Loveland, four for 49, a touchdown.
Burden the third, three for 46.

Speaker 29 Man,

Speaker 29 he looked good. Bears look good.
Ben Johnson got this team playing. DA got that defense getting out for the quarterback.

Speaker 29 I will say this, Ocho. I'll say this.

Speaker 28 Hold on, hold on. Tell me, tell me, tell me.
Take your time.

Speaker 29 Caleb,

Speaker 29 you got to know when the journey's over.

Speaker 29 You can't give up seven points on your possession.

Speaker 28 Oh, the safety with TJ Watt?

Speaker 29 You got sacked.

Speaker 29 Watts sacked him and he lost the ball.

Speaker 29 You can't do that. You can't put your team in harm's way like that.
Go ahead, go ahead and throw the ball away.

Speaker 29 I mean, he's tremendous.

Speaker 29 He can throw from the pocket. He He can throw roll and ride.
He got great legs. He can get out of harm's way, but you can't do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 29 Other than that, I thought you played really, really, really well today.

Speaker 29 Go ahead, On Joe.

Speaker 28 No, I was just going to say, man, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams together has been magic. It's been pure magic.

Speaker 28 The Bears have been abysmal, you know, the past few seasons. And obviously,

Speaker 28 they've been struggling at the quarterback position. Trubisky, Brother Fields.
But now,

Speaker 28 now,

Speaker 28 even though there were so many people that were doubting doubting Caleb Williams, not understanding, if you get the right coach, if you get the right coach that has the right play calling and can play to his strengths and maximize his potential at that position, this is what you get.

Speaker 28 You get a Bears, a Bears team that's leading their division. Wait, they are leading the division, right?

Speaker 29 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I mean, what are they? A 9-3?

Speaker 29 8-3.

Speaker 28 Okay,

Speaker 28 8-3.

Speaker 28 Hey,

Speaker 28 that might be a team, too, you don't want to see.

Speaker 28 That might be a team you don't want to see coming up.

Speaker 29 The pitch has played extremely well. They got a quarterback that's mobile.

Speaker 29 There's a chance that they're going to have a home game. You ain't really trying to, are you really trying to be out there? You're trying to be outside?

Speaker 28 In that weather?

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Absolutely not.

Speaker 29 That wind coming off Lake Michigan ain't nothing to play with now. That's that bone.
That's that bone-chilling cold.

Speaker 28 and one thing about it when it is cold like that you might not be able to run the ball it's cold and windy you might never might not be able to throw the ball like you want to yeah

Speaker 29 but it gives gift chicago credit they've uh uh look

Speaker 29 and and i said this when they got to i i remember having this conversation it's like oh i wouldn't take a quarterback i got justin fields i said they passed on a quarterback you think they're gonna about to pass on the number one overall quarterback back-to-back years

Speaker 29 Because they had to, remember, they traded that Ocho to Carolina.

Speaker 29 So Carolina could select Bryce Young. I say, you actually think they're going to pass back-to-back years on the number one overall quarterback?

Speaker 29 You do realize the reason why they're in this position is quarterback that he got. They moving on.
Oh, you think? I don't think I know.

Speaker 29 He's good. He's really, really good.
And they've done a great job. They've done a great job of Ocho getting him talent.
You look at DJ Moore. They extend DJ Moore.
They get Roma Dunze.

Speaker 29 They got two tight ends with with Cole Komet and Loveland. They get Burton the third in the draft.

Speaker 29 They get Swift.

Speaker 29 I like what they've done.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 29 They rebuilt the offensive line, Ocho.

Speaker 29 They're going to be good. They can be good for a minute.
Now, that's not an easy division because you got the Packers in that division with a young quarterback. You got

Speaker 29 Detroit with

Speaker 29 Goff and Gibbs and

Speaker 29 Armin Ra and James and Williams. And they got an outstanding defense in Detroit.

Speaker 29 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 28 Don't forget them weapons down there in Chicago now. We got

Speaker 29 I said they're going to be good for me. I was talking about them.
Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 28 We got a doomsday. You know, we loot the loot the burden.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 28 We done boy going and makes you up. Never mind.
I ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it no more.

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Speaker 28 The Buffalo Bills, 20, excuse me, the Texans, 23, the Buffalo Bills, 19. Texans D, eight sacks, two pick, one fumble recovery, countless, countless pressure.

Speaker 28 They probably would have had him another three or four times had it not been Josh Allen. Because he got the ball out a couple of times, Ocho, and he was able to get out of harm's way.

Speaker 28 But I thought they did an an unbelievable job. Will Landerson Jr.
is about to get him a Hutchinson contract? Woo!

Speaker 28 Hey, he'd raise it.

Speaker 28 Will Landerson Jr., you got Mario Edwards Jr. You got Rankins.
You have Barnett. They got a front that they can rotate guys in.
Tuolobo got in on action. And the back end is solid.

Speaker 28 You got Stingley, you got Laps. They are really, really good on the back end, but their front four, their front six

Speaker 28 is exceptional. And they did an outstanding job considering the offensive player of the week, Josh Allen, three touchdowns.

Speaker 28 There's only two men that's ever had three touchdowns rushing Ocho, three touchdown passes in a game. Otto Graham did it in 54 in the championship game.
Josh Allen has done it twice.

Speaker 28 They made Josh Allen seem normal. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
They made him seem normal. And Josh Allen is anything but normal.
And so I don't think that's the way Josh played tonight.

Speaker 28 That was all because of that Texas defense. I ain't nothing with you no more.

Speaker 28 Now, I told you, josh allen was supposed to have 255 yards that's all i needed look what he got he had 253 that means he was under i said he was going over

Speaker 28 before you go ojo here's the texans defense number one in total defense first in points allowed third in defense and third and uh third down percentage third in pass defense third in rush defense fifth in takeaways take off hey listen around the board the texas defense

Speaker 28 around the board on all three levels the front second level and that back end is phenomenal for one i know what will anderson jr did tonight i know how he looked tonight but i want to give kaylin bullock some love boy i want to give kaylen bullocks some love two interceptions forced fumble he made shakira fumble um

Speaker 28 the third quarter

Speaker 28 yeah i think i think it might it might have been the third kaylen bullock was all over the place on he was all over the place will anderson jr they sacked josh allen eight times huh it almost looked like what we consider Superman at most times with his ability to extend plays and

Speaker 28 play off script. It looked like he didn't even be long out there.

Speaker 28 They had him uncomfortable all game. He missed the Christternight Boys.
Yep, basically, that's exactly what it was. And for me, for the Texans, right? If we can get that offensive, and goddamn

Speaker 28 Brother Mills, David Mills was only 16 for 30 with two TDs. He only had 153 yards.

Speaker 28 He left some plays out there, Ocho. I know you saw it.
I know you saw what I saw. I was was tweeting.
I was like, bro, how many throws, how many TD throws are he going to leave out there? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 28 You got the guy open. You hit the guy in the back of the head.
You got the guy. I'm talking about, that's the defender you hitting in the back of the head.

Speaker 28 Under throwing the ball.

Speaker 28 But listen, I'm not sure when CJ Stroud comes back, but when he does, when he does, if that offense, if CJ Stroud can elevate that offense and meet that defense just halfway.

Speaker 28 We don't need you to be top five in the NFL. Just meet him halfway.
It can be scary. It can be scary, especially if

Speaker 28 they can get in that doorway and getting them playoffs. But that's a defense that nobody wants to see at all.

Speaker 28 The defense is, and that's the question offensively, because this defense is as good as advertised. D'Amico Ryan does a great job of setting the people.

Speaker 28 I forget the defensive coordinator that was calling the plays tonight, but Miko turned a play calling over to him. But when you look at Danelle Hunter had two sacks, Will Anderson Jr.

Speaker 28 had two and a half sacks. Tuololo had a sack.
Tim Settle Jr. had a sack.
Mario Edwards had half a sack. Barnett had a sack.

Speaker 28 I mean, hell, the only people that didn't get a sack was me and you. And I'm in New York and you in Miami.
Hell, if we'd have been in Houston, we might have could have got a half a sack together.

Speaker 28 And I got one more thing. One more thing.
For those of you that are in the chat, I don't understand why offensive coordinators do this. right? You understand how well your defense is playing.

Speaker 28 I think in the fourth quarter, toward the end of the third quarter, going heading into the fourth quarter, you're getting all these turnovers, turnovers, right?

Speaker 28 You're getting all these opportunities for the Texans offensively. What is with the goddamn conservative play calling just because you have the lead? Why not be aggressive?

Speaker 28 Put your goddamn foot to the goddamn pedal and put the game away. Put the game away.
So it doesn't come to

Speaker 28 a nail biter at the end where they run a goddamn pitching ladder on fourth and 27 and get it. and have an opportunity to win the goddamn game.
It shouldn't even have to come to that.

Speaker 28 If with them last three offensive series, series where you had the ball, you run the ball first down, you run the ball second down, and then it's third and nine and third and eight, and it's damn near hard to get.

Speaker 28 It's hard to get because you don't want to put that area of the field, it absolutely is.

Speaker 28 Yeah, and you don't want to put the ball in harm's way, so you don't call plays that can put the ball in harm's way on third down

Speaker 28 for brother David Mills.

Speaker 28 If maybe a CJ Strive was in there, maybe the play call is a little bit more aggressive because you trust him a little bit more with the football in his hands.

Speaker 28 But like, come on, that's a, the defense is playing balls out.

Speaker 28 Put the game away when you got the opportunity. Six, seven minutes in the game, four minutes in the game.
You got the ball. You run the damn ball three times in a row.
Like, come on, man.

Speaker 28 The defense know. They know that you don't trust Davis Mills.
So they know there's a better than 80% chance that you're going to run it. So what do we call a run blitz on first down?

Speaker 28 Stop you for no yard, no game. You see, it's plays like that, Ocho.
And you had an opportunity. Kirk dropped one in the end zone.
He was worried about his feet and forgot to catch the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Because Mills put it right in his hands, Ocho. He's trying to drag his feet.
Now, if you go look at the adjustment Higgins had, Higgins had to play on the sideline. He's, bro, you got to,

Speaker 28 Ocho, we're going to say pause. You got to go limp.
Oh, Joe, you got to go limp on the sideline, Ocho. That's a catch.
Oh, you can't put it any better.

Speaker 28 You can't take that full extended last step. He get his right foot down and he tries to take a full lamp.
No, you got to go limp there.

Speaker 28 That is really the even though he had an opportunity. It's not like, and uh, then he came late in the fourth quarter.
Yeah, he had a sideline catch and he toe-touched it.

Speaker 28 In that situation, you got to go limp on the sideline, bro. You can't take that full extended step.
You can't.

Speaker 28 You got to be self-aware. It's all about being self-aware and understanding where you are on the field, knowing how much room you have.

Speaker 28 And one of the things that you do, once you come out that break, it's all about knowing where you are, knowing when to allow the body to go limp to make sure you can ensure the catch and make sure you get your feet in because first of all you're probably at a situation like that you're what probably two three yards outside the number so you're gonna speed cut it you're gonna hit 10 roll to 12.

Speaker 28 so you already know that

Speaker 28 yeah

Speaker 28 there are some plays the center uh uh for the houston texans they dropped joey they dropped uh joy bosa they bring the linebacker from depth

Speaker 28 they got three guys blocking two. He lets 50 run right in the gap.
Block, if that's you, it's a perfect. It's you can't ask for anything better, OJ.
Right there. They drop one guy.
Uh, shows go away.

Speaker 28 And now you got three guys. You got the center, guard, and tackle.
Yeah. And the center and the guard, they're blocking two guys, one guy, and 50 come right up the gut.
Bro, that's perfect.

Speaker 28 Center, all you got to do is just push the guy onto the guard. And you're like, come on, 50, I'm going to hit you dead in your damn mouth.
Yeah. That's all you got.
It's stuff like that.

Speaker 28 On the on the uh, the first play, they came out with, came out with with kind of like a little blitz. And Shakira, okay, Shakira comes in motion.

Speaker 28 He comes in short motion and then he bellies back. Okay, you bring pressure.

Speaker 28 Guy, you from depth, that is a punt returner. That is a kick returner.
What do you think the likelihood from 15, 20 yards deep, you are going to be able to tackle Shakira in a one-on-one situation?

Speaker 28 In the open field, it's not happening. In the open field, it's not happening.
I don't care if you come up under control. I don't care if you come up and come to balance.

Speaker 28 he's going to make you miss every

Speaker 28 time. I got a better chance of catching the win,

Speaker 28 and that's not happening. It's things like that

Speaker 28 on the hook and ladder.

Speaker 28 I'm like,

Speaker 28 oh my goodness. Hey, really, for y'all not see the guys crossing, y'all don't see them.
So, y'all don't. So, oh, Joe, I'm in front.

Speaker 28 It's kind of like I'm coming. I'm driving my car.

Speaker 28 I see that guy. I see the guy about that pedestrian about to get in the crosswalk.

Speaker 28 But you know what? On that play, on the fourth and 27, when Palmer catches that ball, as aggressive, you know how aggressive that goddamn defense is. So they locked in.

Speaker 28 They took a B-line straight for Palmer and didn't even see the goddamn ladder, didn't even see the hook and ladder come around with Shakir, which is why they was able to get fourth and 27.

Speaker 28 Ain't no goddamn plays for that.

Speaker 28 27?

Speaker 28 Ain't no play for that. And oh, Joe, and here's the thing: is that the guy was trained, the guy that was trailing Palmer,

Speaker 28 I mean, he's like, bro, you ain't finna catch him.

Speaker 28 Everybody on that side got a rally to the football. Oh, yeah.
But they were able,

Speaker 28 and chat, you've heard me say it many times, the mark of any great unit, can you get done what you need to get done when you got to? Yes.

Speaker 28 At the end of the day, their best unit was, I want my best unit on the field, Ocho. If I'm down three points, if I'm down and I need to get a touchdown, I want my best unit on the field.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 If I need to get a stop, I want my best unit on the field.

Speaker 28 So I would have trusted the defense to stop Josh Allen more than I would have trusted the Houston, Texas offense to go get a game-winning field goal or something of that nature.

Speaker 28 So that's the unit that I want on the field. That is it.
That's what I want. And that's what they got.
And Miko probably said, hey. We're going to win or lose this game.

Speaker 28 I mean, it would have been heartbreaking as well as that defense had played

Speaker 28 to lose that game in the final seconds. Now, we would look back, Ocho.
We look back like, well, damn, the offense did have numerous opportunities, and they would have.

Speaker 28 But when you got those, you got those kryptonite boys, you got them headhunters like they got out there. Nah, bro, I can't ask for a better situation.
I want Hunter. I want Anderson.
I want Settle.

Speaker 28 I want Rankins. I want Edwards Jr.
I want, I want Stingley. I want Lass.
I want you guys on the field. You put the game on.
I don't want y'all. Come on, oh, come on, oh.
I don't want that.

Speaker 28 I want y'all ass on the field. Yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I mean,

Speaker 28 I like it. Obviously, me being an offensive guy, I prefer you.

Speaker 28 You want you, Carson, and TJ on the field. Hold on, but this is the thing.
I don't even want it to come down to the last few seconds.

Speaker 28 I want to put the game early when I had the ball with four, five minutes to go.

Speaker 28 Yeah, you could have made it 27. You could have made it 27.
Hold on.

Speaker 28 Yeah, you could have made it 27, 16.

Speaker 28 So regardless of what they did,

Speaker 28 there was no way to come back. Regardless of what they did, so now we could relax.
We can relax on the sideline and just play defense. We ain't got nothing to worry about.
But here we go.

Speaker 28 Nail biter at the end. Now we have to rely on that defense.
But again, as good as they are, there's a reason why they're number one.

Speaker 28 It's a reason why they're number one.

Speaker 28 So I really enjoyed that. Well, I read, that was one good game.
If I'm not mistaken, some of the Thursday night games have been doozies, huh?

Speaker 28 They've been some snooze fast. Yeah, but not tonight.
This was an interesting game. Hey, this was a very good game.
Ocho.

Speaker 28 Bills O-line,

Speaker 28 they kicked your ass.

Speaker 28 They kicked your ass.

Speaker 28 Now, I think the right tackle ended up getting benched. Now, I didn't see him get hurt, but I know

Speaker 28 they had a right tackle adjustment. Yeah.
And Donkins, who's their best offensive lineman, he got work tonight. It happens.
It happens to the best of us.

Speaker 28 We've all had moments in games where we, hey, I was this and oh Joe, you've been that. And somebody get the best of us.

Speaker 28 As a unit,

Speaker 28 offensive line pass pro. They got work.
They got work.

Speaker 28 They get a number on y'all.

Speaker 28 They got work overtime on y'all ass yeah they they whipped y'all ass like y'all owed them money

Speaker 28 i'm not holding i'm not sure if somebody made a i don't know what went on but when you do somebody like that you whipping them like they owe you they owe you money absolutely absolutely not the rent do nah he owe me money i'm gonna whip his ass boy they gave him work yeah will anderson jr i will say this There was a third and 13, I think a third and 12,

Speaker 28 13 situation. You got to relay to your defensive tackle.
If you go inside, you got to tell him the loop. You both can't get inside because you both went inside.
And guess what happened?

Speaker 28 Josh Allen went outside. The back door opened.

Speaker 28 The back door open, yeah. You cannot do that.
You got to, you got to relay that. I know you're quick.
And I know like, ooh, I got, I got his ass set up. I done been beating him around the edge.

Speaker 28 You kind of been beating him all. You beat him around the edge one time.
You want next time you spin him and you spin inside. So you was having your way with it.

Speaker 28 But I'm just saying for future reference, you got to be careful at that. You got to communicate with your DT.
Hey, bro, check this out. Hey, I'm going to cross his face.
You bubble outside. Yeah.

Speaker 28 See, you know what? They got to communicate that. They got to communicate.
Matter of fact, that's a stunt, huh? And if you call it a stunt, it has to be called in the huddle.

Speaker 28 They can't just make that up.

Speaker 28 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We can make it up.

Speaker 28 If I'm D'Amico Ryan,

Speaker 28 I trust Will Landers. Okay, okay, okay.
I trust him enough that I'm going to give him the leeway. I'm going to give him the latitude.
But I need him to convey that with the DT. He's D tackle.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, bro, check this out.
We're gonna run an ET. Yeah.
In down, tackle around.

Speaker 28 Hey, hey, listen, when they can go on their own script like that, on their own page, off script based on what's called, and they can communicate that and then make the play. Yes.
Hey,

Speaker 28 now we got, now we got, now we got him boxed in. Because look, I want you to go up the field because I'm going inside.
And if he see you up the field, he's going to dive inside.

Speaker 28 That'll give me enough opportunity that I can get him. Right.
And if you come out the back door, you'll be right there waiting on you. You, you, hey, you right there.

Speaker 28 That's that's that's the only that was the only thing defensively that I will say because I thought they I thought they played a perfect game tonight. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 28 Look, I like I said, you know, we can we can nitpick the guy playing from depth because when Shakur going that short motion, if you bring pressure, he bubbles out the back side.

Speaker 28 You got him one-on-one. He is a punt returner.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 The number one job as a punt returner is to make the first guy miss.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Hey, the first guy, you make him miss.
Now

Speaker 28 you don't even count.

Speaker 28 He's looking at you like the punter. Because they said we got everybody else.

Speaker 28 We got everybody else blocked. What you got to do to the punter? Make him miss.
Make him miss. So that's how he's looking at you with all that space.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 You not attacking nobody.

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Speaker 29 Before you go any further, we have breaking news. The Raiders just relieved Chip Kelly of his duties.

Speaker 29 Chip Kelly signed a contract to make him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football this offseason. But he was just, he was dismissed after just 11 games.

Speaker 28 God damn.

Speaker 28 Hey, that'd be sick.

Speaker 29 He's about to stay in college.

Speaker 28 Listen, somebody, somebody got to take the fall with this. Somebody got to take the the fall.

Speaker 28 Somebody got to take it, huh?

Speaker 28 Obviously, it ain't going to be Pete. It ain't going to be the quarterback.
Okay, who are we going to blame? Offensively, we can't get nothing going offensively.

Speaker 29 So, who's the

Speaker 29 gadget-ass offense?

Speaker 28 What you call it?

Speaker 29 That gadget-ass offense?

Speaker 28 But this, this is the part I don't like. We're in the middle of the season, right? You let the officer coordinator go.
So, who, what, what, what, what plays we call it now?

Speaker 28 Or we have someone else calling the same exact offense because we can't learn a brand new offense.

Speaker 29 No, they're not going to be able to get a

Speaker 29 same offense, but you know, sometimes on show maybe

Speaker 29 a different set of eyes.

Speaker 29 I like that. See things differently.
I like that. Down in distance.

Speaker 29 Area of the field.

Speaker 28 Or

Speaker 28 actually understanding the strengths of the goddamn supporting cash you have and putting it in the right places.

Speaker 28 Why is Tucker out there on the outside?

Speaker 28 Why is he out there on the outside as if he's a true, no disrespect, as if he's the true number one?

Speaker 29 He's a a slot at best.

Speaker 29 He's a third. He's your third.
He's a third. He's a good third or fourth receiver.
He needs to be in the slot. He don't need to be outside.
First of all, Joe, he only like, well, how tall?

Speaker 29 He's like 5'7, 5'8?

Speaker 28 Hold on. I know he's fast as hell.
But he out there lined up two yards outside of number running comebacks. Man, they finna sit on that all day, huh? Yeah.
They finna sit on that all day.

Speaker 28 Like, come on, man.

Speaker 29 Yeah, it's uh,

Speaker 29 hey, they paid a lot of money. They made him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football.

Speaker 29 All right, time to let it go.

Speaker 29 If that worked, go back to college.

Speaker 29 You can have a great career in college.

Speaker 29 And that worked. But, you know, you go out here and try to change guys, guys that have been doing stuff their entire life.

Speaker 29 Remember, the first thing he did, Aston Genty, he wanted to put Aston Jenny to put his hands on his thighs. The man been standing up the whole while.

Speaker 28 Hey, can I ask you a question?

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 28 When you see Jameer Gibbs in the backfield, how is he standing?

Speaker 29 Damn near standing straight up.

Speaker 28 Straight up and down. Because

Speaker 28 that gives you, it doesn't comfort

Speaker 29 nothing.

Speaker 29 I'm comfortable.

Speaker 29 What you need?

Speaker 29 Hell, I'll let you play some Uggs if you're going to tell me you're going to go out there and run for 215.

Speaker 29 I don't care nothing about what you got on. I really don't.

Speaker 29 Man, please.

Speaker 29 Thank you, Chad Man. Ooh, chat.
Y'all doing us good tonight. Ocho, we got 50K in the chat tonight.

Speaker 29 This is not the first time we're in 50k in a regular season game in a long time chat thank you so much for this support really appreciate it the rams beat the buccaneers by the score of 34 to 7.

Speaker 29 baker mayfield left the game early due to a left shoulder injury he did not return he was spotted on the sideline wearing a sling tanny bridge water came in and filled in for for him but the uh the rams did a great job they were clicking on all cylinders from an offensive standpoint and then when they fell behind they could hunt those two edge rushers and that great front four that the Rams normally have going all the way back to the Fearsome Forest with Merlin Olson, Deacon Jones, Lamar Lundy, and the great Rosie Greer.

Speaker 29 They got after Baker, they got after Teddy Bridgewater, and they win going away.

Speaker 29 They scored 31 points in the first half, and they cruise in the second half, only scored three, but that was all they needed because the Bucs didn't score at all.

Speaker 29 Or you're watching this game, Matthew Stafford, 25 of 35, 273, two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball particularly well.
19 carries for 70 yards. Puka, seven catches, 97 yards.
Excuse me.

Speaker 29 Devontae Adams, five for 62, two tubs. Parkinson had four for 41 and a touchdown.
But when you look at this team, they can run it with Kyron Williams and Blake Corb.

Speaker 29 We know they can throw it with Puka and those weapons that they have and Matthew Stafford at the helm. Ocho, what is it like what you like so much about when you watch the Rams, you watch them play?

Speaker 29 And they do this every single week. So this is not

Speaker 29 an aberration or anything like that, an anomaly. This is who they are, this is what they do.

Speaker 28 Listen, this is the importance of having a quarterback, huh? This is important to having a quarterback, obviously, considered a gunslinger, an MVP, a Super Bowl-winning quarterback. And

Speaker 28 you can make a team one-dimensional, they couldn't run the ball, but they threw that motherfucker all over. I'm sorry, they threw the ball all over the place.
They did what they wanted to do.

Speaker 28 Puka, Puka Eden, Devontae. Listen, I'm not even sure.

Speaker 28 What was Tampa Bay doing? Why are they leaving Devontae Adams singled up over there and man-to-man knowing goodwill ain't nobody finna be able to stick with him?

Speaker 28 He's scoring touchdowns all over the place.

Speaker 29 Making it look easy.

Speaker 28 And making it look really easy, especially if you watch it. If you watch it from TV, you're like, well, God damn.

Speaker 29 You know, he's going to hit you. Oh, Joe.
They know he's going to hit her with that pause.

Speaker 28 Every time.

Speaker 28 Hey, listen, and once you relax. Once he hits you with that heady, once you relax, he take off.

Speaker 28 It's a done deal. But outside of that, man, they they look really good man they look really really good really really sharp um

Speaker 28 matt stafford is good on the man didn't man didn't play and he he didn't even have he didn't even go to training camp no

Speaker 28 he didn't even go to training camp so to be able to come out here and play like this all season long you know what they nine and two now right nine and two best record in the in the nfc

Speaker 28 hey they're gonna be hell to deal with boy they're gonna be hella deal but coming out of that nfc now

Speaker 29 because Seattle looked good. I mean, that division, you got them, you got Seattle, and you got the 49ers.
The 49ers have the best record within the division, they're 4-1 in the division, yeah.

Speaker 29 So they have the best record, they just don't have the best overall record.

Speaker 29 They did get Purdy back, Christian McCaffrey is healthy, they're doing a lot with Kittle and Ayuk. It's going to be interesting when they get Pearsall back, if he's coming back.

Speaker 29 Defensively, they're

Speaker 29 trying to mix and match. They're without their two best players, Fred Warner and Nick Bosa.

Speaker 29 But they're making it for somehow, some way, they're making it work. But the Rams make light work of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tonight.

Speaker 29 Run their record to 9-2, thanks to a 34-7 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa falls to 6-5.
Baker Mayfield was injured in the ball game.

Speaker 29 Obviously, he's going to probably get an MRI

Speaker 29 and see what's going on with that shoulder. Hopefully, it's not something that's long-term.
But

Speaker 29 Tampa, Tampa didn't look good tonight. They couldn't run the football, they didn't throw the ball, they didn't really do anything well.

Speaker 29 And that has a lot to do with the Rams, not so much what they didn't do.

Speaker 28 Well, the Rams put so much pressure, they applied so much pressure out the gate.

Speaker 29 Yeah,

Speaker 29 oh, they can get after you now.

Speaker 28 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 28 absolutely. So,

Speaker 28 they kept

Speaker 28 Bacon Mayfeld uncomfortable, didn't allow him to sit in the pocket.

Speaker 28 He had to run and scramble for his life, he had to extend plays.

Speaker 28 He did the best he could, but at the end of the day, it was nearly not enough, not even close.

Speaker 29 Ojo, the Cowboys fall behind 21-0, score 24 unanswered points, and they win on a game, Brandon Aubrey's 42-yard field goal as time expired.

Speaker 29 Jalen Hurts said after the game, we got to find a way to finish the game, and we got to find some consistency in what we do. Definitely to tell the two halves.

Speaker 29 In the end, we didn't play a complete game as a team, and it got us today. We've got to own this one.
It's let that light a fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward.

Speaker 29 AJ Brown has been trying to tell y'all this.

Speaker 29 Eagle fans, AJ Brown has been trying to tell you what happens when the defense can't bail us out. You cannot run the football.

Speaker 29 You're going to win games moving forward on Jalen Hurst's arm.

Speaker 29 Now, he got some pressure that he doesn't normally get.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Lane Johnson is a big out.

Speaker 29 The center, Jerk is a

Speaker 29 Diggy Zua was whipping ass inside today.

Speaker 28 Yes, sir.

Speaker 29 But with the exception of one game, Saquon has not run the ball this year. Saquon had 10 carries for 22 yards.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Jalen Hurts had seven for 33. Bigsby had one for eight.
So that's 18 carries for 63 yards.

Speaker 28 This is going to be like this all season long now.

Speaker 29 You had two,

Speaker 29 you had two turnovers.

Speaker 29 I mean, the defense was balling. That's an I, oh, I was sitting there and I started to tweet.
I started to tweet this, but I didn't. What? They had the ball second and 17.

Speaker 28 Uh-huh.

Speaker 29 They just run the ball, pick up four yards.

Speaker 29 Hey, how about trying to go for it and try to get nine or ten? Now we got something manageable.

Speaker 29 You run the ball into the line of scrimmage, and now it's third and 17.

Speaker 29 I think A.J. Brown or somebody picked up 12 yards.
Now, if you'd have picked up 12, if you'd have picked up five or six yards before, and now come back and get the 12, now you got a first down.

Speaker 29 First down. They give up on too many plays.

Speaker 29 Well, our defense will bail us out. Our defense.
No.

Speaker 28 Well, you know, what about not wanting to put the ball in harm's way?

Speaker 29 I mean,

Speaker 28 but not wanting to put the ball in harm's way, but also being able to trust your quarterback to make the right decisions with the ball.

Speaker 29 They don't.

Speaker 29 I don't care what they say. They don't.
They don't. Because there are not a whole lot of people that have a quarterback that's won a Super Bowl MVP that on second and 17, they're handing the ball off.

Speaker 29 They're going to throw the ball. Let me try to get half of it back, Ocho.
Now I got a manageable third down.

Speaker 29 I get all they say, and Stefanski, excuse me, Sirianni is going to say all this stuff. And

Speaker 29 I get all of that. But they don't trust him like they should trust him as a guy that started damn near his entire career in the NFL.
He came into the backup.

Speaker 29 He got the starting job and he hasn't relinquished it. He's gone to the playoffs.
He's been to two Super Bowls. He's won one and he's won a league and he won a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 29 They don't trust him like they should.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Now,

Speaker 29 this loss

Speaker 29 should get their undivided attention. Yeah.
Now, AJ ain't going to say this, but AJC, I told you. But

Speaker 29 listen.

Speaker 29 I told you.

Speaker 28 But also, look at the game in that fourth quarter. Look at the game.
Now, I know the Cowboys were able to come back, but they had about 37, 11 goddamn fumbles in a row in back-to-back series.

Speaker 29 Yes, Saquon fumbled, and then they punted it. Defense did a great job.
You fumbled too. There's only so many times that you can keep putting your defense right back on the field.

Speaker 29 They just got off the field. They give the ball to Saquon.
He fumbling. The defense hold him.
They put the ball, defense right back on the field. On the field.

Speaker 29 There's only, look,

Speaker 29 I don't care how big how much you build a levee, if it rains enough, it will burst. Yeah, and that water will come over that levee.

Speaker 29 Again, another thing that happened:

Speaker 29 Eagles.

Speaker 29 I just want to know how many penalties that you had. Oh, you're they had 14 penalties.

Speaker 28 Yeah, they had a lot.

Speaker 29 14.

Speaker 29 No, they had more than a lot, a lot of the parcel of land. They had 14.

Speaker 29 I mean,

Speaker 29 Dallas had 473 yards of offense.

Speaker 29 That was, look,

Speaker 29 this is when Dak is at his absolute best. Oh, yeah.
Because now he can throw caution to the wind. Because guess what, Ocho? If you lose, oh, well.

Speaker 29 But

Speaker 29 because I, you know, I had when I worked with Dan, Danny and I, Dan Marino, and we worked, uh, worked together for a decade, for a decade.

Speaker 29 And he said, he's like, hey, if I threw three interceptions, hell, what's the difference between three and four? What's the difference between four and five? I'm going to keep letting it rip.

Speaker 28 Let it go.

Speaker 29 I mean,

Speaker 29 they should have put this thing away in the first 21-0.

Speaker 28 Listen, Uncle, if you're playing Madden, you got to pass the sticks. The game is over.
At 21-0, I thought the game was over. Obviously, I had both games going.
I'm watching the Raiders.

Speaker 28 I'm watching the Raiders and the Browns. I'm watching the Eagles and the Cowboys.
Boom, both TVs set up right there. So, I'm thinking, okay, damn, but the Cowboys out of it, boy, 21-zip in the NFL.

Speaker 28 If you continue to keep your foot on the gas, it's no way, as good as their defense is, it's no way the Cowboys should be able to come back. But lo and behold, boy, they got a young dude out there.

Speaker 28 They got a young dude out there, man, in Dallas that got a star on his helmet.

Speaker 28 When he got drafted, he was standing just like this, huh?

Speaker 28 Man, listen, when we listen, when we talk about top five again, when we talk about top five receivers and understand their potential and what they've been able to do and how there was a certain team that might have been holding him back based on what we're seeing this year, man, stop, man, stop playing.

Speaker 29 First of all, it shouldn't even have been 21-0, Ocho.

Speaker 28 What?

Speaker 29 CD,

Speaker 29 make sure you make curfew moving forward. CD dropping an assload of passes, Ocho.

Speaker 29 You watched it and i've watched it he dropped like four or five hold on how many targets hold on let me go back because ocho he dropped ocho he dropped a flat out touchdown he dropped it in the end zone it

Speaker 28 that would have ended the game i'm glad they won the game because that might have been on cd

Speaker 29 11 targets

Speaker 29 he caught four of them huh 11 targets he caught four he threw four or five of them back at dak

Speaker 29 i mean he was a he turned into a retriever you know what a retrieval is, Ocho. You, you hunting quail or pheasant? Go get him, boy.
He'll pick it and bring it back to you.

Speaker 29 Yeah, that's what he was doing. He's picking the ball up, handing it to the official.
No, no, no, no, bro. I need you to be a receiver.
We pay you $34 million.

Speaker 29 And right now,

Speaker 29 well, you know, you see, everybody see, we ain't got to say nothing. Y'all see it with your own eyes.
Y'all see Pick is out playing it.

Speaker 29 We ain't got to say nothing.

Speaker 29 But you see it?

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 28 He's being lazy with his hands and eyes, huh? That's all it is.

Speaker 28 Being lazy with your hands and eyes.

Speaker 29 You got to reach out. He leads the league and drops, Ocho.

Speaker 28 He leading the league and drops?

Speaker 29 CD. CD drops?

Speaker 28 Oh, man. Hey.

Speaker 29 Damn. Huh?

Speaker 28 You sure?

Speaker 29 1,000%.

Speaker 28 Damn.

Speaker 28 Got to get that thing right now.

Speaker 29 I mean, the last couple of games, hell, I thought that was Edward Scissor hands out there.

Speaker 29 Hey, uh, hey, hey, we, I mean, look, we, y'all see it, chat. I mean, Ocho and I, we make a lot of a situation, but y'all see them drops.
And I know Cowboy fans, y'all see it like, damn, CD.

Speaker 29 Come on, CD. You got to catch.
I'm talking about the ball beating him up, Ocho.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 29 He doesn't got, what happens, Ocho, you know, you drop a couple, you're like, well, damn, do I got my hands right?

Speaker 29 Should my hands,

Speaker 29 like this? Do I catch it like this? Now you start trying to body catch everything. It gets in your head.

Speaker 29 He's gone.

Speaker 28 It get in your head. Listen, listen, I've been there.
Hey, listen, I've been there. So I kind of know what he's going through.
Now, it's just be one game. It don't be multiple.

Speaker 28 It don't be back to back to back. And a player of his caliber, of his caliber? Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 28 The game was supposed to be over on that catch where it went through, it hit his belly and went through. And

Speaker 28 he looked at Dak and telling Dak, throw it out there a little bit more so I can that I can run to it.

Speaker 28 Come on, come on now.

Speaker 29 Over the middle, he dropped one over the middle. And damn, I mean, and he like, I'm like, bro, I'm glad you got some flexibility because when he go down, he all on his neck.
He all breaks.

Speaker 29 I'm like, well, damn.

Speaker 28 Hey, hey, but you know, you know, listen, in baseball, some of the greatest, some of the greatest sluggers, they go in the slumps.

Speaker 28 I'm not making no excuses for him, but somebody like that that wear that double eight, he wear that double eight for a reason. Exactly.
He wear that double eight for a reason.

Speaker 28 So, boom, i had a bad game next week i don't even know who the cowboys got i don't even know who the cowboys got but i know next week a four

Speaker 29 man get that boy back in the rhythm man to get his confidence back man put that thing back on him no i'm gonna let him work on his confidence i'm gonna go to number three because i know number three gonna put it in his back pocket for me

Speaker 29 i know what three go i know what three gonna do come on you see that catch that three made Which one

Speaker 29 over two?

Speaker 28 Hold on. Which one?

Speaker 29 The one he made over two. He caught one and then 21 tried to swipe it.
But here's the problem: the Eagles got because wherever Africa is, the ball is gonna follow him.

Speaker 29 Jackson. Yeah.
Whoever he guarded, the ball following him now. Adora Adora.
Oh, Joe. I'm trying to figure out.
Ocho, Adora Jackson sets up inside. He has inside leverage.
Yeah.

Speaker 29 How in the hell you let you let pickets cross your damn face?

Speaker 28 You're talking about on the slant.

Speaker 29 On the end route.

Speaker 28 Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 29 It was like third and it was like third and 12. he's

Speaker 28 the one he had to reach up and go half of yeah you got inside oh you

Speaker 29 put you inside for a reason yeah if he beats you on the go ball you like coach i i mean what you want me to do you got me lined up inside yeah that's on him if i line you ocho if i line you up inside you can't let him cross your face

Speaker 29 oh cho i told what did i tell you what what i've been telling them running backs

Speaker 29 i say if a linebacker blitz

Speaker 29 and you catch him,

Speaker 29 he's gonna sit you in the lap of the quarterback and he's gonna sack your quarterback. What did Kobe Dean do to Javante Williams?

Speaker 28 Ocho sat him down back there.

Speaker 29 Oh,

Speaker 29 you better close that distance. You gotta realize he's coming from distance, so he has a head of steam.
You sitting there catching him.

Speaker 29 You better close that distance.

Speaker 28 You gotta meet him.

Speaker 28 You gotta meet. You gotta meet him.

Speaker 28 Hey,

Speaker 29 the Eagles, I tell you what, AJ Brown got the undivided attention. Yeah.
Hey,

Speaker 28 he had a hell of a game today, too.

Speaker 28 Hey, they were feeding that boy early, too.

Speaker 29 Not enough.

Speaker 28 Hey, they were feeding him early.

Speaker 29 He should have had one of them chase games. He should have had 23 targets.

Speaker 29 Devontae.

Speaker 29 Devontae cooking.

Speaker 28 Both of them.

Speaker 28 Both of them. Head chef and assistant chef.

Speaker 29 It's It's not going to be

Speaker 29 what it was last year.

Speaker 29 You're throwing on the wide open guys because Saquon, they're dropping that eighth guy down to stop Saquon.

Speaker 29 That offensive line is not as dominant. Now, Lane Johnson is out.
He's probably done for the year because it's reported that he has a Liz Frank.

Speaker 29 So he's probably, if he got Liz Frank, he's probably done.

Speaker 28 Excuse me.

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 28 You're going to have to educate me. What the hell is a Liz Frank?

Speaker 29 It's a ball. Dancers normally get it.
It's a small bro. It's a, what is it, like the metatarsal? Like, in your, in your foot.

Speaker 29 So, this is your foot. It's like right.

Speaker 29 And you're going to play. Because he got the foot already.
It's his right foot. So you're going to kick.
How you going to catch? How you going to sit? Can't. He done.

Speaker 29 If what they're saying is true, that he has a lead spring injury. Right.

Speaker 28 I might be able to do something for him for that.

Speaker 29 Well, you might can do something after he has surgery, but you you ain't gonna be able to do nothing for it right now.

Speaker 29 With that being said, Ocho, look, I think the thing is, the Eagles just got to realize, and I, and I said, we've been saying this: if you think you're gonna win the Super Bowl how you won it last year, you're fooling yourself.

Speaker 28 No, you can't, you gotta evolve, huh? You gotta evolve the way you won it last year, you're not gonna be able to do it the same way the next year.

Speaker 28 And obviously, you know what, you know how difficult it is to repeat, being able to repeat is very difficult in itself.

Speaker 29 But

Speaker 29 I don't know, know, Minnesota.

Speaker 28 Hey,

Speaker 29 I know it's early. Hey, I'm with you.

Speaker 29 Early what?

Speaker 29 Early what?

Speaker 28 Ain't no way in hell you supposed to let Sam Donald like that goddamn though. Now, stop playing.

Speaker 29 Well, he's gone now. So

Speaker 29 ain't no sense in closing the door now because the cow's already out the barn.

Speaker 28 Did you were you able to watch that game today?

Speaker 29 I did watch it.

Speaker 28 Man, please.

Speaker 29 If you could turn back the hands of time i guarantee you they don't let i'm sure absolutely they would absolutely you have 1000

Speaker 29 as a matter of fact uh justin jefferson go pick his ass up from the airport

Speaker 29 yeah you're absolutely right absolutely i know my dog jetta gotta be frustrated boy oh i know i know he frustrated from go to putting up those kind of numbers yeah i mean think about what he oh choose he was on a historic i mean he was talking about the best five-year six-year totals in nfl history that's the catapes he was on.

Speaker 28 Yeah,

Speaker 29 and now it's come to a screeching halt because his quarterback play is inadequate.

Speaker 29 God,

Speaker 29 it is what it is. I mean,

Speaker 29 we're not, oh, you're we're not breaking, oh, you're not interrupting normally scheduled programming to break news.

Speaker 29 Right, if you watch the vacuums play, they're quarterback, he leaves a lot to be desired. As I said, I know this is his first year starting, although he's a second-year player.

Speaker 29 I'm willing to give him time, I'm even, I'm willing to give him some runway but i'm saying what my eyes are telling me right now is that he leaves he leaves a lot to be desired right let's see if he can change my perception of how good i think he can be

Speaker 28 chat i'll leave that up to y'all maybe y'all think he's uh you know hey listen it it's not up to it's not up to us he got to make them believers over there in that organization he got to make he got to make his receivers believers too because obviously based on what i saw today the small sample size of the game i was able to catch boy that ain't ain't it, boy.

Speaker 28 That ain't gonna get it done.

Speaker 29 Not even close to being it.

Speaker 28 And the funny thing when I think about it is you still have the same weapons that goddamn Sam Donald had last year. So it really

Speaker 28 shouldn't be that goddamn difficult, even though playing the quarterback position. is difficult.

Speaker 28 But for Sam Donald to make it look like he did last year and then go to Seattle and continue making it look like that, I'm thinking, well, hell, shoot, if he's what he's supposed to be, as high as he got drafted, he should be able to get it done the exact same way.

Speaker 29 I was concerned. Oh, chill, let me tell you why I was concerned about him.
It's because they really didn't throw the football at Michigan. No, they were a running team.

Speaker 28 Yeah, they run it right down your mouth.

Speaker 29 So,

Speaker 29 oh, whoa, hold on, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on. Run that back.

Speaker 29 I need you to rephrase that and then press pray. Oh, my bad, my bad.
Press play. Yeah, yeah, I need to.
Come on, no, no, no, no, no. Just rephrase it.

Speaker 29 Okay, press play.

Speaker 28 Run the ball. Damn.
Um,

Speaker 28 let me see how you can say, uh,

Speaker 28 they run the ball against.

Speaker 28 No,

Speaker 28 I'm trying to say it the right way, huh?

Speaker 29 I don't know, but you, I just need you to rephrase it the way what you did. Just rephrase that.

Speaker 28 They run,

Speaker 28 they're gonna run the ball downhill.

Speaker 29 Okay, yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 28 There you go. My bad.

Speaker 29 Emmanuel Wilson ran for 107 yards and two touchdowns as the Packers beat Minnesota by the score of 23-6.

Speaker 29 Wilson provided all the offense Green Bay needed on the day the Packers forced three turnovers, produced five sacks, including two from each for Michael Parson and Devontae Wyatt.

Speaker 29 The Vikings totaled four net yards and three turnovers in the second half.

Speaker 29 The Vikings hadn't finished the half with as few as four total yards offense since 1991 or as far back back as sports radar sports sports radar

Speaker 29 sport radar research goes damn ocho we were kind of having this conversation just a minute ago yeah i'm willing to give him look

Speaker 29 he missed last year with an injury yes so he didn't really get a whole lot of reps this year he missed what five games with an injury so that kind of stunted his growth i'm willing to give him some time But boy, next year this time, Ocho, he'll have to show me a lot to convince me.

Speaker 28 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, listen, the clock is ticking, obviously.
The clock is ticking.

Speaker 28 You have to prove yourself because if you don't prove yourself next year around this time, then they just go, they're going to move on.

Speaker 28 You know how this business is. You understand how this game is.

Speaker 28 They want instant gratification right away.

Speaker 28 They're not waiting around, waiting to develop, waiting to get better. You have to show signs.
You have to show signs of improvement fast, quick, and in a hurry. If you don't,

Speaker 28 you got to be able to to show some type of potential.

Speaker 28 And in order to do that, you got to be healthy. You got to be on the field.
Yeah.

Speaker 29 You think about Ocho, he was 12 or 19 for 87 yards, two picks.

Speaker 29 And then they had another 93 yards on the ground.

Speaker 29 So basically, they had 180 yards of total offense.

Speaker 29 Maybe they didn't have that many. When you take the sat yardage.

Speaker 29 into account. They might have had 140 yards.
My bad. 145.

Speaker 28 That's crazy,

Speaker 29 man. You know, I don't know if you're gonna win a whole lot of games unless you sack their quarterback 10 times, unless you take the ball away from them another five times.

Speaker 29 It's hard, or or you get pick sixes, scooping scores, or return touchdowns, Ocho, in the special teams game.

Speaker 29 You're not winning no game with 145 yards of total offense unless you get a punt return, a kick return, you block a punt, something unforeseen. Right.
But 145 yards-damn, that's embarrassing.

Speaker 29 I mean, you got Addison, you got Jeddah, and you got Naylor.

Speaker 28 Oh, and

Speaker 28 you got Hawkinson, you got Thielen, you got Thielen in there, too.

Speaker 29 No, yeah, Thielen, and you got Hawkinson,

Speaker 29 and you got Aaron Jones.

Speaker 29 There is no excuse, hey, that's no excuse.

Speaker 28 That's that's crazy. Boy, I know Jed is hot, boy.

Speaker 29 This is what Justin Jefferson said. It gets frustrating when they keep saying the same fixes are coming each week, but nothing is different the following week.
It's frustrating.

Speaker 29 It's frustrating to lose. It's frustrating to be up here saying the same thing every single week, expecting things to change the following week.

Speaker 29 And we're still in the same spot, and we just got to figure it out.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 28 he's saying all the right things.

Speaker 28 He's saying all the right things to us in front of the camera, but behind closed doors to those that he knows, those that he trusts, that conversation is completely different.

Speaker 29 Throw my whole meal in the trash.

Speaker 28 Completely different.

Speaker 28 Oh, that's...

Speaker 28 Hey, can you imagine, though?

Speaker 28 I'm just thinking about it. You know how bad you have to be to have Justin Jefferson, Addison, Thielen, Hawkinson.

Speaker 28 You got Aaron Jones back there running the ball to take some of the pressure off of you.

Speaker 28 Even if you are one-dimensional, you can be able to throw the ball with them mother excuse me with those weapons

Speaker 28 come on now

Speaker 28 the same the same sam donald that's with the new york jets that they didn't want anymore the same sam donald that with the carolina panthers that they didn't want because he was but he went to minnesota and looked like a goddamn man come on now stop playing

Speaker 28 if you really are who you say you are based on your draft status based on where you were picked in the draft, supposed to be the franchise quarterback.

Speaker 28 Eh.

Speaker 28 But

Speaker 28 it's looking like a heavy miss. And I say that with all due respect.

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