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Speaker 4 Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.
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Speaker 4 Doing great, brother Debo. Doing great.
You know, another day on the set talking to my good man, speaking this football, you know how we do. Yes, you know what?

Speaker 4 Before we get started with the football, yes, sir, Joe, what? Joe, yes, Joe, we went four for four on that prize. Yes, we did last night, baby.
Bro, that's my fault.

Speaker 4 That's my fault for questioning you. That's my bad for questioning you.

Speaker 4 I was worried about kiddo. He got it done.
I damn near had to like strain you up so you ain't playing on your boy. I'm riding with you now, Debo.
I'm riding with you for sure. We took 25 and made 275.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you made me a couple. You made me a couple

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Speaker 4 for four debo my man your man christian mccaffrey got it in the first drive so hey that was solid

Speaker 4 Solid, dude. 49ers get out there.
And like you said, man, the first five plays is McCaffrey. He get a run and three.
I think it was a catch for another three.

Speaker 4 That was a nice tackle by, what's his name? What'd the dude's name mean? Which one?

Speaker 4 Moraine, something like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, dude. Merrick.
That was it. Merrick.

Speaker 4 Third down, he got 10.

Speaker 4 I mean. They was giving him the ball every.
He had eight touches in the first drive.

Speaker 4 Dude, I think he had nine. I mean, they was, I think he had nine in the first few, dude.
Nine of the 15, I believe, was

Speaker 4 all was touched. The ball was touched by him, you know.
And actually, on that third and 10, Merrick, he was just trying to disguise too hard.

Speaker 4 If he had stayed closer, he could have, he could have stopped him on that. Man, they ended up driving down the field.
I think Purdy, Purdy, Purdy, he went like six, six, seven.

Speaker 4 He was a lot of dump downs, a lot of checks.

Speaker 4 A lot of checks, a lot of dump downs. They was just staying on time, dude.
They was really staying ahead of the clock. They were staying on time.

Speaker 4 They get down there and Purdy, I think he hit Jennings for 12, 12 yards. That's when he broke all them tackles.
And that was the one play horn. And then they was trying to punch the ball out.

Speaker 4 And they was being a little too worried about that and let the man break the tackles in school. You got to short a tackle first before you go to punching that balls.

Speaker 4 You got that was his first bad. That was his first bad play, but I mean, my man JC made up for that for sure.

Speaker 4 oh yeah definitely definitely carolina get out there they got a positive play on the first down but i think they got a holding call on the second they end up behind the chains they punt the ball right back to to the 49ers and that man that man purdy get out there and say hey

Speaker 4 go

Speaker 4 that's horror went on hey that was

Speaker 4 that's what i'm telling you a lot of the plays they've been running against the steelers those bang eights you know what i'm saying where like they get the play action and then he runs the bang eight.

Speaker 4 That was man-to-man coverage. That was a great route, route recognition for him to make that play.
So Horn was balling, bro. That was like great man-to-man coverage.

Speaker 4 Right, dude. Like, they're making plays.
They're actually like, even if he hadn't made the play,

Speaker 4 yes, bro.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 We go ahead and get out there. Well, Carolina gets out there and

Speaker 4 they get like a, what is it, five, three, something like that.

Speaker 4 And then on that third down bryce scrambles for seven

Speaker 4 more thank you anyway

Speaker 4 they get the they get the first and go at the one

Speaker 4 and he gets picked by brown why are we even throwing a ball right there you just got there it's first and one when he goes he could have still ran he but like he why did he throw the ball at all he could have walked it into the end zone you know what i'm saying he threw it back across his body a little bit into the end zone that was just not a good play by him i feel you they should have ran the the ball.

Speaker 4 They should have gave it to Rico or Chubbard. One of them two should have got the rock.
But even when he's scrambling out, get to the pylon.

Speaker 4 You could have walked it in for a touchdown and you just threw a damn pick.

Speaker 4 Makes no sense, bro. 49ers get the get the ball.
They get the ball. Again, they're staying ahead of the chains.
They get to a fourth and one.

Speaker 4 They get like three, I think it was, you know,

Speaker 4 with a tush push. That was a lot of yards on a simple.
That wasn't even a touch push. That was just a quarterback sneak.
Quarterback sneak. He's found to the gap.
Quarterback sneak.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he just found the gap. You know, Purdy ended up scrambling for nine on the second and seven.
They get the first down. They get to the third down again.

Speaker 4 And your boy

Speaker 4 gets picked again on damn near the same kind of route. Man the man

Speaker 4 post play.

Speaker 4 These dbs, my man, what's his name? Mike Jackson?

Speaker 4 Do he got to get it out faster? These DBs just

Speaker 4 a little late. You know what I'm saying? But these DBs at the end of the day are making great plays on the ball.
They're like, they're turning into the receiver.

Speaker 4 So the quarterback, he can lead it a little bit more, but I'm not going to take away anything from these DBs that are going high pointing the ball. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Like not touching the receiver,

Speaker 4 not using their arms. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just straight feet.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they was moving, man.

Speaker 4 The defense was doing their thing out there, especially Carolina's defense, dude.

Speaker 4 They was doing their thing i ain't gonna lie 49ers defense did well too but they was going up against a little little smaller animal than than what they got they got over there in sanferon dude yeah carolina get out there they go three and out because the receiver just totally hit him right in the chest

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 you're not you're not good enough but your team is you know when you're playing with the panthers like that your team isn't that good to be just missing the the the normal catches you gotta have that Yeah,

Speaker 4 you got to have that. That's that's simple, clean, and you got to make some catches.
You may not have supposed to have a quarterback out a little bit. That's hurting your quarterback.
God damn it.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Yeah, bro. 49ers get out there.
McCaffrey fumbles the rock. They got so lucky with

Speaker 4 you see what is up with the panic. Why is everybody just falling all over the ball? We had it.
Fall on it. Just drop.

Speaker 4 Just drop. Just drop.
Just drop. The lineman came in there.
They're trying to get there. He came in there, dropped.
Just Madib looking crazy.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 He just so panic. You know what I'm saying? And you got to just get down.
Just calm down. Calm down.
Fall on the ball.

Speaker 4 Then they get to the second down, and Purdy, like, listen, I know y'all missed, you know what I'm saying, that fumble recovery. I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you this.

Speaker 4 He throws his third pick, second time to horn. Brother, brother, brother.

Speaker 4 This right here, Debo was a masterclass in playing cornerback. This man has deep thirds, Debo, and George Kittle is the tight end on that side, so he's blocking.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 And once you block, you can look across the field and try to find work. You might have an over.
You might have a dagger. And he went and found the dagger and went and picked that ball off.

Speaker 4 Birdie's not thinking that the cornerback on the deep third on the other side of the field is going to come across the field and pick off your dagger. That's not happening.
So Dhorn

Speaker 4 balling, like just like that's man-to-man coverage. And then that's zone coverage.

Speaker 4 You you knowing exactly what you're supposed to do your assignment is court kittle now oh he's blocking now i can look across for some more work go make a play go steal something like that play right there i was like man this dude is not only a man making the play on the bang a pick undercutting now you're just playing this is zone now this is when i can use my eyes i can read the quarterback you know what i'm saying so God, that it was just, I was so happy to see it because me being a cornerback, I know what you're supposed to be looking at.

Speaker 4 I know that you have, okay, you have thirds here. Now your next thing is coming across.
You can go steal something. And he he went and did it.
I'm like, dog, bravo, bravo, JC Horn.

Speaker 4 No question.

Speaker 4 Carolina get the ball back. The offensive horn going ahead.
He make a nice run for 11 after a little short pass.

Speaker 4 Then, what was it, Downley?

Speaker 4 He ran for, what was it, about eight weaving in and out of that thing, something like that.

Speaker 4 And then four plays, you know, they get a, what was it? They ended up stopping him. And the defense, you know, they held him to what was it?

Speaker 4 They go three to seven.

Speaker 4 San Fran get back out there. Second down, he hits Kittle for that good 25.

Speaker 4 And then,

Speaker 4 then,

Speaker 4 then

Speaker 4 he tries to throw two more picks. Like in the zone, he almost picked that joint off where a horn almost had he overthrew Kittle.

Speaker 4 And then the next joint, my man, hide it, high the, it was high to kill.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 he ran that curl route for him. And good thing he threw it outside because he would have picked that too.

Speaker 4 Right. He would have, yeah, if he didn't, they didn't misread each other.
Yeah, he would, he would have got short.

Speaker 4 So I'm like, God, dang, Birdie,

Speaker 4 you out here trying to give up the money.

Speaker 4 So Carolina holds him to a field goal. They go up 10 to 3.

Speaker 4 Carolina get back out there and 49ers force a three and out. So

Speaker 4 it is what it is.

Speaker 4 49ers get the rock back i think it was what they uh

Speaker 4 it was right before halftime so they kept on dumping it off to mccaffrey

Speaker 4 yeah it was like three they did like three plays or whatever halftime ended up i appreciate that though

Speaker 4 bro i knew that i was they was giving mccaffrey all them yards

Speaker 4 yes sir

Speaker 4 halftime is three to ten baby

Speaker 4 yo Carolina gets the ball and fumbles on the kickoff return, bro. Like they got lucky.
The dude that fumbled, it got so lucky he was able to recover that,

Speaker 4 dude. Like,

Speaker 4 that would have been a disaster if they could have got that rock back. It would have been over with

Speaker 4 because the Panthers, they didn't have no type of real offense.

Speaker 4 So, if you keep giving the ball back, you saw your defense keeps turning it over, getting the ball to you, and you're not doing nothing with it.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 they get out there, first play, dude makes a nice run for about 17.

Speaker 4 Then they get a holding call.

Speaker 4 It's first and what, 20 now?

Speaker 4 They end up not being able to convert. DB made a nice play on that.
He did. 37.
Great play. The slant is your man-to-man.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. 49ers get the ball back.
Here goes that man, McCaffrey, again. He goes for 12.

Speaker 4 Again,

Speaker 4 this whole drive, they just basically able to stay ahead of the chains. They go,

Speaker 4 they go like 13 plays, 80 yards. They finish it off with a

Speaker 4 12 yards.

Speaker 4 Just easy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they go up, was it 13 to 17 now?

Speaker 4 17

Speaker 4 during that drive, I think that's when they lost Horn. I think he ended up going out with a concussion during the drive.

Speaker 4 So he was no longer going to be on defense for him.

Speaker 4 That was a big.

Speaker 4 I think that was a big hit, especially when you're, you know, you're a guy that's rushing. You ain't got him out there covering.
You don't have more time to get to the the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Carolina gets back out there.

Speaker 4 Second is short. He gives, I mean, second down, he gives him a short little pass that he's able to, Herbert's able to turn into 14.

Speaker 4 And then Hubbert gets a run for like five.

Speaker 4 Second down, it's Hubbert again for like 10.

Speaker 4 And then it's Hubbard again for six.

Speaker 4 It was a lot of Hubbard.

Speaker 4 No question, bro. And then they're able to hit, I think it was McMillan for 29 yards.
Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 4 That was the best pass that was his uh that was um the quarterback's best pass of the day

Speaker 4 yeah we back in we back in

Speaker 4 it

Speaker 4 they went for two yeah i i would have kept that never take points off the board i don't know why we're not scoring we haven't been able to get in here let's just get the let's just get the field goal

Speaker 4 yeah it's it's nine to 17 now

Speaker 4 again

Speaker 4 49ers get back out there here come catherine kittle oh You know, they get, I think it was, they get to like a first and 10 at the 15-yard line.

Speaker 4 And back-to-back plays, they actually stuffed McCaffrey for a loss. They end up being able to hold him to a field goal.
So it's 20-9 now.

Speaker 4 And Carolina get back out there. And like the first play, DB, like

Speaker 4 almost picked him off if he could have held on to it.

Speaker 4 but now it's coker coker take a short one like 18 the next play is coker for nine then i think uh

Speaker 4 it was the second down and this was basically the end of it it was browns i think second

Speaker 4 when he went to try to throw that dig he broke on that joint so clean

Speaker 4 y'all a

Speaker 4 receiver was trying to push him off he held on to it a little bit i mean no harm no foul yeah it was a little was a little it was a little tough

Speaker 4 I mean, he was trying to push off too. Now he had the arm

Speaker 4 like if you're pushing it out, that's why you keep pushing out there.

Speaker 4 You're trying to push me, you're literally fully extending your arms to push me. So, I'll be looking at that the same way too, Debo.
Lightning, why are you why is it okay for you to push me?

Speaker 4 So, if you get a push and I get a little hand on you, and they don't call nothing, well, that's what it is, it is what it is. That's what it is, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 49ers get out there and they get a delay of game on that second down, end up making them have to go three and out. They done gave Carolina the ball back.
You know, second down, Down,

Speaker 4 he goes for like 11 and the next play, they hit like 14

Speaker 4 and then they get 15, but it's an illegal touching because

Speaker 4 you can't do that.

Speaker 4 You can't do that and come back in and get that thing. And then after that, Young got sacked for what, negative, what, seven, eight, 10, something like that.

Speaker 4 He lost eight or 10 yards, something like that. They ended up settling for a field goal attempt and they miss it.
Game over. That's all.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's done.

Speaker 4 It don't matter what you do after that. Like,

Speaker 4 like this right here for me was like, it was like an all-around team win, more like defense. I think for San Fran, the defense stepped up for the most part when Purdy threw those interceptions, bro.

Speaker 4 Like the one interception,

Speaker 4 I believe they got nothing.

Speaker 4 The other interception, they may have,

Speaker 4 they may have got a field goal on one of them.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 the other one, I don't think.

Speaker 4 They were answering. They were answering.
They got a pick. They was going to pick a pick.
And then, yes, the other, yeah, the one interception, it was a back-to-back. So they went a pick for a pick.

Speaker 4 For a pick. A punt and a field goal.
They gave up three.

Speaker 4 and got it and got an interception back. Like that's how your defense is supposed to respond.

Speaker 4 I'm with you. And San Francisco's defense only gave up, what, like 70 yards rushing? I think Bryce had, what, maybe 170 yards passing, two interceptions along with that.

Speaker 4 But McCaffrey, dude, McCaffrey did what McCaffrey does. Like, that's what it came to.

Speaker 4 Almost 90 yards rushing, another 53 receiving. Kittle went out there and got him six for almost 80.

Speaker 4 You know, Purdy, yo, he got to clean up what he's he's doing, bro.

Speaker 4 Because if, if, if, you know, he left a couple picks out there, too. It was a couple.
He could have threw a smooth five picks,

Speaker 4 an easy five pick day. Like you playing against stiffer competition that got a better offense.
This is not going to turn on like this. Not at all.

Speaker 4 For me, it was Christian McCaffrey is amazing. And the ways that they use him, getting him the ball, like I felt like I was watching a little league game almost.

Speaker 4 It's like, get the ball to your best player. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's going to make something happen for us.
So they kept on getting him the rock.

Speaker 4 Purdy, every time he threw the ball, you saw he was 0 for 2 for two picks if the ball went past 15 yards.

Speaker 4 So he was doing a lot of check downs, a lot of making sure, you know what I'm saying, staying ahead of the sticks, getting the ball to McCaffrey. But for me, he can't, you got to protect that rock.

Speaker 4 You can't be in any of those bang eights. You got to throw it to where your receiver can get it or nobody can get it.
You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, he got to definitely tighten up.

Speaker 4 Their defense plays amazing.

Speaker 4 They don't just being able to step up when your quarterback keeps putting you in positions where you keep having to get on the field and you answer, you answer the call, you get another pick.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? You give up a field goal, you give up a punt. You know what I'm saying? You forced in the punt.
You're just going up there and answering the bell.

Speaker 4 So I was, I love the defense. I love how Christian McCaffrey was playing.

Speaker 4 But Birdie just had me looking a little crazy.

Speaker 4 with any pass that went over 15 yards that if you didn't know if it was going to be a pick or not so he just got to tighten up with that but their team is solid

Speaker 4 yeah he was gun slinging out there so at the end of the game there

Speaker 4 Jenny's got punched in his manhood by uh Trayvon,

Speaker 4 you know, cheap shot. We can't show it, but

Speaker 4 uh, what do you what's worse, spit on or being punched in

Speaker 4 which one? Uh,

Speaker 4 dang, what

Speaker 4 I would say

Speaker 4 spit, spit. You want me, you want me to go, Joe? Yeah, I can go,

Speaker 4 because I'm just flustered. I'm not trying, I do the levels of disrespect are just messed up.
The levels of disrespect, whatever. To me, the pain of being hit is going to be worse.

Speaker 4 But the disrespect of being spit on can't be compared. That's what that's okay.
That's what I was trying to say.

Speaker 4 Cause I'm like, if you get hit in the, if you get hit in the pri, you can't react initially because you're hurting. Like, you, you, you're hurting.
Like, I gotta get you later.

Speaker 4 I ain't, I'm right there. You know what I'm saying? When you get spit on, right.
I got, I gotta get you. Listen, man.
So, my son. I don't get what I said.
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Speaker 4 So, my son, he did that once. Well, he did it like three times when he was like three, four years old, right?

Speaker 4 And on purpose, you can't explain to a three, four-year-old why you don't do that. So, the first time he did it, it was like an accident.
You know what I'm saying? I folded down.

Speaker 4 I'm like, oh, da, da, da, you know, and you know, he kind of

Speaker 4 right. So, the next time, it was the same day, you know, they don't, they memories, they don't, they don't.
So, the same day he came over, he fired on me, right? I'm like, hey, yo, don't do that.

Speaker 4 That hurt, right? I said, don't do that. That hurt.

Speaker 4 So a little while later, he comes back and he goes to fire on me again. So I waited.
I said, I told you don't do that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So when he goes to walk around, I walks up to him and I pop him right in his right.

Speaker 4 And I said, that's why you don't do it.

Speaker 4 You sat him down as a how old was he?

Speaker 4 Dude, dude, he was like three, four. This is the thing, dude.
a three four year old cannot understand reason

Speaker 4 i got the most understanding reasoning discipline into my kids between the ages of like two and six because they couldn't understand me explaining to them they don't have the capacity but they understand reward and punishment right from wrong so if i tell you to do something

Speaker 4 and to not do it, he may not even understand right from wrong, but he will understand reward. He will understand pain.
That's one thing you understand.

Speaker 4 Like you go and you get little Johnny and he's going over there and trying to stick his finger in that socket or stick a key in that socket or stick something in that socket.

Speaker 4 And you run over there and you tell him, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 And you pull him away. And now he runs back over there and you tell him, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You pull him away and you keep doing that. It just now became a game.

Speaker 4 He thinks you're playing a game. No, no, no, no, no.
I'm trying to save your life. So me.
I tell you once. After I tell you once, I correct you.
That correction then is pain. He's like, you know what?

Speaker 4 If I do that, I get pain. He don't know that if he sticks that key in that socket, he's going to, he died, but he understands the pain.

Speaker 4 So you can't sit here and explain to a, you know, a two to six year old that you can't do this because it's going to risk your life.

Speaker 4 Risk reward.

Speaker 4 That's easy, dude. It's easy.
And if you don't do that, you get kids that grow up into adults who don't listen, don't pay attention, aren't productive members of society and everything else.

Speaker 4 That's facts. But yeah.
I'm doing the same thing with my kids. It's right from wrong.
And I'm being able to like,

Speaker 4 if you do something, if you, when you walk into the crib and you're doing everything the right way, I'm never, never going to be punishing you.

Speaker 4 But if you do stuff that's wrong, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to definitely let you know what it is. So yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, dude. Listen,

Speaker 4 I do not spare the rod as they say. Well, I haven't had to do nothing with the rod in a long time.
You know, one, actually, James was a little, little, a little tougher than my youngest Henry.

Speaker 4 You know, Henry, he couldn't take it. He was like,

Speaker 4 no, I don't want none of that. James probably, you know, he took his last one was probably about 12 or 13.
He Henry was way before that.

Speaker 4 If I come into, if I come and I got a question to ask, and it could possibly be

Speaker 4 some whooping behind it, oh, Henry go dropped a dime. He ain't taking the whooping from nobody.
I feel that.

Speaker 4 I feel that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, dude. But the Panthers,

Speaker 4 they got a situation over there. What you, the quarterback, Bryce Young,

Speaker 4 you think it's time for them to

Speaker 4 maybe move on from him?

Speaker 4 I don't think Bryce Young is that good. And that's not no disrespect.
He's a little small.

Speaker 4 Sometimes with his arm, he's just not making all of the plays.

Speaker 4 What they need to do is lean on their running game. Rico Dobbin,

Speaker 4 Hubbard is good.

Speaker 4 That rookie receiver that they have is solid. But

Speaker 4 so you say it's time to move on.

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 4 I'm with you. I would agree.

Speaker 4 Actually, I 100% agree that it's time to move on. Like you got to realize

Speaker 4 you were first round pick, not just a first round pick. You were the first pick.
Like your improvement from year to year has to be greater than what it is.

Speaker 4 They want you to be, you know, a franchise real life quarterback.

Speaker 4 And your improvements year to year haven't been that i think his completion rate is still only like what maybe 62 63 something like that and that's only up from 59 or 60 his his rookie year like you look at you know you look at these drake may dude what is he like 70 or something completion then your franchise quarterbacks like you know dak prescott Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, these guys are in the upper 60s, Jared Goff, all

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 I think, yeah, I don't, I don't see a

Speaker 4 when I look at him, and there's no, and there's no disrespect, but sometimes, like, when you are, like you say, you're the number one overall pick, there's you've had your time, you've been able to go out there, but like, you, when we're talking about franchise quarterbacks, these dudes are making 60 million dollars a year.

Speaker 4 Would you want Bryce Young as your quarterback at 60 million, at 30, like I don't like 30 million dollars?

Speaker 4 Like, I'm just trying to figure out, like, once you get that good time to see what you have, then it's like, we got to be able to, I don't think he's going to be able to win you a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 So, like, if that's the path, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 It's always the path. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
So, it's not going to be the path with

Speaker 4 him being the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But

Speaker 4 the path is to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. No question about it.
So, Jamar Chase, he

Speaker 4 said he was sorry for spitting.

Speaker 4 What he did was wrong.

Speaker 4 Can we put that up? Can we put that up?

Speaker 4 There it is.

Speaker 4 What do you think of this, Joe?

Speaker 4 I'm going to go ahead and take off for you. So

Speaker 4 give me a brief sale. This right here,

Speaker 4 this right here was like almost a perfect apology.

Speaker 4 Like almost. It was good.

Speaker 4 Like it was good. Whoever his team is that he had write this up.
They did it good.

Speaker 4 They did a good job writing this up okay but it wasn't perfect okay he apologized to the bangles he apologized to the stillers he apologized to the nfl he apologized to the coaches he apologized to the teammates he apologized to the fans but oh he had a he had it listen listen he had a small slip up one person he forgot and the small and listen listen it was just one i'm just saying it was a small slip up then it was a big

Speaker 4 so the small slip up is where he says

Speaker 4 uh this has been a tough season with some incredibly hard losses. We've all been frustrated, but instead of stepping up with calm and class and leadership, I let my

Speaker 4 having to sit.

Speaker 4 What did he say? I let my having to sit out yesterday, whatever.

Speaker 4 Basically, he said him having to sit out yesterday made his actions unexcusable and it won't happen again.

Speaker 4 So you telling me you having to sit out made was what made your actions unexcusable? No, you sitting out had you lose a half a million dollars.

Speaker 4 But that right there was just, that was just a little slip. The big slip was

Speaker 4 finally,

Speaker 4 I want to apologize to the fans. No.

Speaker 4 Finally should have been you apologizing to Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 4 That should have been your finally.

Speaker 4 I highly doubt you called him personally

Speaker 4 and if you did you still should have put him in there because you made this public public statement you should have let the public see that too so yep and that's you like you said debo that was uh eloquently written out the he said apologize to everybody but the main person that you spit on right and end of the day i think you know like you're saying oh i'm because you sat out the game your game checks are four hundred thousand dollars a game so you know know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 They put you two games, you would have missed $800,000. You know what I'm saying? So that was five.
He missed five and some checks. It was five and some checks.
Okay, he did 500,000.

Speaker 4 So I'm like, basically, you're just saying that it was the money part. I just wish, as a person, you would have just been like, you spit on Jalen Ramsey.
There's nothing besides words.

Speaker 4 Y'all are always in the heat of the battle being able to go. So you apologize in the fans, people that wear your jersey, the coaches that, but not the person that you actually spit on.

Speaker 4 That was just literally, y'all are playing against. Y'all are in the heat of the moment.
You know what I'm saying? Going at it.

Speaker 4 He did nothing out of line where what was what to cause him to spit, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Like, that's just it ain't nothing you could do, it ain't nothing you could do that could cause cause me to spit. It ain't nothing you could say because he didn't.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 We saw, we saw no actions that

Speaker 4 like, it's nothing. So, I'm with you.
This is just an attempt to try and hopefully them reduce the fine

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 that's the only thing that could happen.

Speaker 4 But that's not going to happen because he already served the whole thing.

Speaker 4 And on top of that, the finally,

Speaker 4 you double back with the,

Speaker 4 I don't take anyone wearing my jersey for granted. Hey, I just lost half a million.
Make sure y'all keep wearing my jersey. I'm trying to make it up.

Speaker 4 I need to have that backpack. I need that back.

Speaker 4 That's it.

Speaker 4 I hope Jamal, man, like real talk that the spitting party, you know, that had that, but we were talking about it. There's no scenario where you should be spitting on anybody.

Speaker 4 Uh, um, I think honestly, he does feel, you know, I'm saying bad. You gotta, you gotta be feeling crazy the way people are talking about it, and the way that everybody says spitting is not acceptable.

Speaker 4 I just wish he would apologize to the man that he spit on in the joint. Like,

Speaker 4 hey, listen, man, sometimes things not said are more important than things said,

Speaker 4 and also

Speaker 4 get to these good old brownies, man.

Speaker 4 Gabriel was clear, but should

Speaker 4 we start versus the 49ers? What do you think? I'm very, very, very happy about that. I'm excited.

Speaker 4 I'm happy for Shador. I'm happy for the Browns.
I'm happy for just Cleveland. I'm happy for Miles Garrett.
I'm happy for Denzel Ward. I'm happy for the defense of Cleveland.

Speaker 4 I'm happy for the city of Cleveland. And this is no, and I love Dylan Gabriel too, but I wouldn't have wanted him to come back in to be able to come back.

Speaker 4 And he would have had to, like, if they would try to start him or anything like that, just for the crowd being able to boom him, you know what I'm saying? First incomplete pass.

Speaker 4 He doesn't deserve that. He had his shot.
He had his time. He had six games to play.
You know what I'm saying? Then he had his concussion. And then now Shador's time to go out there and play.

Speaker 4 And I'm just happy now. It just is what it is.
He has his time that he can go out there, practice. He can get all of his reps.
Now he's going to play against the 49ers. And then we'll see.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? Hopefully he just gets better and better each game.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to say like the last one when he was 11 for 20 for 209 that like that was just a drop that oh my god, he's the best player in the world. No, but it's progress.

Speaker 4 It's something to move forward. It's something to build on.
He could still, you know what I'm saying, from the first game, four for 16 to 11 for 20. So now let's see what we can do.

Speaker 4 See if we can not have an interception. You know what I'm saying? If Jerry Judy doesn't fumble that ball, that's another drive that maybe, who knows what happens.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 He could have scored again. So just being able to keep the ball, just keep the main thing, the main thing.
I'm happy now that he is named the starter. So you don't have to worry about outside noise.

Speaker 4 He's going to be able to get his plays in, his first 15. He's going to be able to meet with the receivers and all that extra work that you got to do, do it.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 This is your time to be able to go out there and perform. So I just want him to lock in and keep that main thing, the main thing.
And you don't have to don't, this is why I would tell Shador.

Speaker 4 I, we, we're here for you. You don't have to project yourself out there.
We know what's going on. We know about just you getting getting a little bit of practice reps.

Speaker 4 So you just go out there and grind and ball. And just, you know, you got a great defense.
You know what I'm saying? Be complimentary of your guys. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Because I don't, I know some people just don't like how his swag and just the way that he carries himself sometimes.

Speaker 4 Bump that. If you're balling, you're balling.

Speaker 4 But I just want to let him know, like, we got your back for all that, but I just don't want him to give haters reasons to be, you know, I'm saying just on his neck for no reason.

Speaker 4 Do you think

Speaker 4 that this

Speaker 4 was actually

Speaker 4 Kevin Stefanski's decision to start Shador? Or do you think

Speaker 4 that it was other

Speaker 4 people

Speaker 4 who made the decision or made sure he made the decision to start Shador?

Speaker 4 I think if he would have tried to come back and start Dylan Gabriel, then it would have just been all hell would have broke loose. That's not what I asked you, Joe.

Speaker 4 What did you ask me?

Speaker 4 I asked you, do you think it was his decision alone to stop Shador or did someone else make sure he made that decision?

Speaker 4 I would say that somebody else, I would say it was above his head. If he had to pick, I think he would have had Dylan Gabriel probably start.

Speaker 4 Just me personally. I think because I know he likes, he likes Dylan.

Speaker 4 That's his man.

Speaker 4 So if he personally, I think he would have started Dylan, but I don't think logically walking into that locker room talking to other professionals talking look talking to your team looking miles garrett and them dudes in the eyes you can't go in there and start dylan gabriel once he comes out of the protocol from what you've seen so far and now we have shador coming off the wind and no rookies had since 95.

Speaker 4 So he's going to start again. Dylan has six.
Get his man. This is going to be his second game starting.
Like he at least be able to, you know what I'm saying, give him some time.

Speaker 4 So you can't just take him out and put in Dylan like he was fucking Tom Brady or like Patrick Mahomes just had a concussion and came back. No, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? He hasn't done too much, not knocking, but like now we have another rookie that's the quarterback that just won his last game. Let's see what he can do.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? So.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I 100% agree with you because if that was the case, he would have

Speaker 4 had more of a response. Instead of, I'm just worried about this game.
We're talking about this game when they asked if he would start

Speaker 4 next week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is 100% was not his decision to alone. Like, they like, yo, you go in here and tell these dudes that

Speaker 4 Dylan is starting.

Speaker 4 They're not going to be happy about this, and you may lose the locker room. I think.

Speaker 4 So, for me, personally, I'm starting on one throw,

Speaker 4 and that was that 50-yard bomb on the run on the money, because I know for a fact, Dylan Gabriel cannot do that. He can barely get the swing pass out that ended up going for 66.

Speaker 4 Lebo, I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Speaker 4 Hey, matter of fact.

Speaker 4 Picking up what you're putting down, they said a high school coach shoved the opposing quarterback on the side. What's going on with these state championship games?

Speaker 4 Listen, bro, I don't, listen, I don't know exactly what, but I'm going to tell you right now. Hey, ain't no way

Speaker 4 it was a black kid, I promise you, because that game kept going on. And they said the court and the

Speaker 4 quarterback, look,

Speaker 4 we got it.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 hold on, hold on. Lord, see that.
Sit down. Can you make it bigger? I can't make it.

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, the quarterback get kicked out because he throw the ball at him. Thumb.

Speaker 4 He wants all the smoke. He's like, what's the coach?

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. They saying he actually, the coach, they kicked the kid out and kept

Speaker 4 staying in the game

Speaker 4 on the sideline. Man, listen, listen.

Speaker 4 Oh, my daddy, bro.

Speaker 4 That game ain't finishing.

Speaker 4 He gave him a good stiff arm, too.

Speaker 4 Look.

Speaker 4 All he had to do was move.

Speaker 4 He put his hand out there to the pit, buddy. The contact and look, laughing like it's sweet, trying to walk off like he ain't do nothing.

Speaker 4 Not, bro.

Speaker 4 Hey, the side, the sideline, he couldn't have stayed there.

Speaker 4 They listen, they've had game over with football. That's what I'm saying, though.
You're a grown man. You just put your hands on my side.

Speaker 4 Are you crazy? Out of your mind.

Speaker 4 This is what.

Speaker 4 Hey, this is the thing, man.

Speaker 4 Like, a lot of people will kill for anything.

Speaker 4 Very few people will die for something.

Speaker 4 I'm ready and willing to die for mine. It's nothing that's going to stop

Speaker 4 from doing whatever I want to do

Speaker 4 because I'm going to die for it. I'm not

Speaker 4 a bunch of people killed for stupid shit. How many people willing to go in there and die for something, die for somebody?

Speaker 4 I know you are, Deborah. That's how you get killed.

Speaker 4 He's tripping. I mean, that's, that's you got they're supposed to be dudes that are supposed to be teaching them like

Speaker 4 leadership

Speaker 4 finishing you're supposed to throw the hand out try to protect the man from running into the sideline right there you're supposed to catch him you know what i'm saying like end of the day we know when you're playing against other teams it is what it is but you're never really trying to you're not trying to

Speaker 4 that's just dirty you know what i'm saying you're not really trying to just harm people outside of the game once you get outside of the lines it's all love that's why when you finish the games it's always you dap up you meet at the center you pray together you know what i'm saying saying?

Speaker 4 Because at the end of the day, we're playing a game that we love and we know it's a violent, violent, violent game, but you're not really trying to do weird things.

Speaker 4 That's just like as a person, you just like that's just dirty. There's certain things that you don't do, you don't hit like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 And then you're trying to walk off and act like you're supposed to be leaders of men and trying to teach these dudes how to be the best representation of themselves.

Speaker 4 And you out here looking crazy, and no wonder, like, somebody's parents obviously will come outside of it. You're trying to give them the example.
That ain't the example you want to set.

Speaker 4 terrible that ain't the example you want to set terrible that's crazy i hate saying stuff like that man

Speaker 4 because they leading our kids joe joe joe joe joe joe joe joe no i'm not if we put that he going to jail

Speaker 4 what hey bro

Speaker 4 this is what i guess this philly dude is going viral for calling the police and saying there's a terrorist operating in the Eagles facility. Oh my goodness.
Offensive court.

Speaker 4 bro.

Speaker 4 Hey, we got the video, man. Show the video.

Speaker 4 What's the address of the emergency?

Speaker 16 I would like to report a terrorist operating out of Philadelphia, the Nova Care Complex Center, goes by the name Kevin Petulo.

Speaker 16 Yes, the emergency. He is operating.

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Speaker 4 You would need to look up there, Nani Mercury.

Speaker 16 His current whereabouts is ATT Stadium in Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 16 Yeah, just take your time whenever you get to it but just remembering the name kevin petullo kevin petullo

Speaker 16 thank you for your help today please he needs to be called

Speaker 4 bye-bye debo straight to jail him

Speaker 4 you going to jail he's going to jail

Speaker 4 you playing with 911 for

Speaker 4 life funny

Speaker 4 no

Speaker 4 Hey, that's funny until they come and grab you. Until you're in the Fort Nelson.

Speaker 4 Like all these kids that's doing this, man. Y'all going up to people who are unaware of what you're doing.
Do a skit where somebody is aware. It's somebody fake doing that.

Speaker 4 People out here, some people losing their lives on this. They're playing with people too much, man.
Some people are not, some people are not friendly. Some people don't like the play.

Speaker 4 You don't ain't nobody always

Speaker 4 know what somebody's been going through that day. You know what I'm saying? You walk.

Speaker 4 You don't know what I got on me. You don't know if I'm a kid still carry person and you running up on me with something that looks like it can hurt me or take my life.
I'm going to lay you you down.

Speaker 4 You're trying to go viral,

Speaker 4 trying to go viral. You're going to jail and hell, six feet deep.
You like going to jail and hell is crazy.

Speaker 4 Like, come on, man. Y'all need to know.
No, but buddy on that drink playing with that terrorist attack, calling 911, calling the pants. Terrorists doing

Speaker 4 to jail. I'm they're gonna

Speaker 4 lock you up as soon as they realize who you are.

Speaker 4 Y'all go ahead and pick him up. Hey, let's run that video one more time so they can see your face.

Speaker 4 Yeah, T-bro

Speaker 4 i snitch i tell i snitch i tell

Speaker 4 you understand

Speaker 4 oh i ain't uh uh

Speaker 4 i ain't i ain't having no parts of

Speaker 4 joe who your defensive player of the week bro you

Speaker 4 know

Speaker 4 exactly who my defensive player of the week is

Speaker 4 let me see who it is then let me see let me see who your defensive player of the week let me see i don't know i might i might have somebody no no no

Speaker 4 who you got who you who you got i'm looking who you got garrett

Speaker 4 miles and we won who is miles garrett generational talent for the cleveland browns

Speaker 4 our cleveland browns 18 sacks right now three sacks of the last game 18 sacks two four miles garrett

Speaker 4 yeah miles garrett defensive player of the week and he stood on business

Speaker 4 are you sure and costafansky gave him the game ball you know

Speaker 4 you know

Speaker 4 i listen i

Speaker 4 i ain't gonna lie to you

Speaker 4 until he did what he did

Speaker 4 i was going with will anderson that's not a bad choice houston he was going crazy

Speaker 4 But he went and did what he did. So

Speaker 4 I got to give it to him. I got to give it to him.
I got to give it to him. Give it to him, Debo.
So appreciate it. Yeah.
But I was the thing I was looking at.

Speaker 4 I was trying to see his name on the stat sheet with the Stillers when we played. So

Speaker 4 I didn't see nothing in that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did it.

Speaker 4 We ain't, you know, we ain't too worried about it. Hey, let that worry about everybody else.
Everybody else can worry about it. So

Speaker 4 I'm saying this to say,

Speaker 4 sack record, you just got to hope he get it before he faced the pissburg stillers in that last game because uh but hold up debo what about you gotta we're gonna talk about what you

Speaker 4 all right listen listen listen okay

Speaker 4 i'm just saying he ain't piss and drop on us only thing i will be worried about like i said was the defense and you personally thought i was being too hard on i really did i really did

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 I went on ahead, did some research, and I pulled up some stuff. And

Speaker 4 what did I send you on? What did Chat GPT say? What did they tell you? I really couldn't believe that you sent me this because I'm looking from just out like watching it.

Speaker 4 It doesn't look, I mean, sometimes like the open, the big plays, the gases, the not jamming too, you know what I'm saying, and the seams.

Speaker 4 So with the chunk plays that we're getting, I just was like, but we're bend, but don't break. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't know it was this much.
I'm tired of that. We can't bend no more.

Speaker 4 Still don't break. I'm telling you, you sent me this and it showed me it's too much bend.
It's so much bend. I didn't even know.
You said this is the worst stillest defense we've had since 1988.

Speaker 4 And it's just statistically, it was numbers. You sent me this damn chap GBT thing, and I thought you were tripping.

Speaker 4 We

Speaker 4 are

Speaker 4 rated

Speaker 4 the worst we have ever been rated as a defense since 1988.

Speaker 4 So am I overreacting?

Speaker 4 You are not overreacting. You are not overreacting.
23.9 points per game, 368 yards allowed per game, ranked 28th in NFL. Worst total defense ranking in franchise history per multiple sources.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 so when I read that out loud, you are not overreacting.

Speaker 4 When I read that out loud,

Speaker 4 you have valid points.

Speaker 4 I couldn't hear you. Could you run that one more time, Joe? Okay.

Speaker 4 What was that? 2025 still is defense so far. 23.9 points allowed per game, 368 yards per game, ranked 28th in NFL.
Worst total defense ranking in franchise history.

Speaker 4 When was the last time we were ranked 28th, Joe? Uh, 1988.

Speaker 4 And we gave up 23.2 points a game at that time. And that's that's right from Chat GPT, right? From Chat GPT.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Here's the thing:

Speaker 4 We could

Speaker 4 salvage

Speaker 4 this season. Salvage.
Salvage. We could salvage.
It's salvageable.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 we have to knock off Baltimore twice.

Speaker 4 We have to

Speaker 4 beat Buffalo.

Speaker 4 Miami is a win. We have to.
Cleveland is a win. We're going to shut the seat.

Speaker 4 Okay, see, there you go. Only problem is Buffalo,

Speaker 4 Baltimore, and Detroit,

Speaker 4 Cleveland,

Speaker 4 Dolphins. That's see, there you go, being this.
Look,

Speaker 4 you gotta play the games, and that's what I'm saying with the Stillers. They better come out there, and we gotta, we gotta win.

Speaker 4 It in it's it's not, it's each individual week, but we can't look past nobody. Hold up, hold up, Joe, hold up, Joe, hold up, Joe, hold up, Joe.

Speaker 4 You were saying that, like, you were saying that

Speaker 4 you wanted us to no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying it like

Speaker 4 we need to expect

Speaker 4 you better, you better be ready. You just can't be glazing over people, Debo.
That's how you get that's how you get

Speaker 4 we ain't glazing over nothing,

Speaker 4 they better not be glazing over nothing. You just said you like this.
Oh, yeah, them guaranteed. Listen here, you want me to keep this 100%? Keep it 100%.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna keep it 100. I'm gonna keep it 150 with you right now.

Speaker 4 We're probably lucky if we split with Baltimore.

Speaker 4 We got Buffalo.

Speaker 4 We need to win. It's not a must-win,

Speaker 4 but we need to win. Because if we don't beat Buffalo, we have to beat Detroit.

Speaker 4 Like,

Speaker 4 that means we got to beat Baltimore.

Speaker 4 We got to beat Miami. And we have to beat Detroit.
We got to get three in the world. We ain't got three in a row all year.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's starting off. It starts off Sunday.
I think we get Buffalo Sunday. We get Buffalo Sunday.

Speaker 4 And I'm saying,

Speaker 4 I'm saying this as, okay, because we already beat Cleveland. I'm talking it as a win.
I'm saying this as how Miami has performed, although they went out there and put their foot in Buffalo's neck.

Speaker 4 That's why I'm saying you never know what version of the teams you're going to get. So we got to come out there and put belt to ass.

Speaker 4 And to be honest, bro, we're lucky, lucky if we get to 500.

Speaker 4 Buffalo could be a loss. Baltimore could be a loss.
Miami could be a win. Detroit could be a loss.
And

Speaker 4 I'm hoping

Speaker 4 we can beat Cleveland.

Speaker 4 Although.

Speaker 4 The way Miles has been playing, I'm scared.

Speaker 4 I respect the honesty that's what i'm looking for okay

Speaker 4 okay period all right i feel that that that's just what it what it comes down to

Speaker 4 and if that happens everybody's gone

Speaker 4 if it gets under and the only reason i would be like okay i'm hoping that we get playoffs don't don't even think about playoffs dude I'm hoping we can get to 500 because that way, at least Mike can save a few jobs.

Speaker 4 A couple people will to have to be sacrificed for the greater good of the rest. But then again, that puts us back here

Speaker 4 where we're probably trying to fight for another 500 seeds instead of a championship.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I'm like six and one half, half dozen in the other.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I don't.
What you think we're going to do? So say, say, if it

Speaker 4 you saying bump the playoffs. If we lose to Buffalo,

Speaker 4 we have to win the next three

Speaker 4 we

Speaker 4 dude we have to win the next three we won three but it was a buy in between so they had some rest

Speaker 4 this was straight three they had some rest

Speaker 4 we got to go straight three boom boom boom

Speaker 4 now physical games bro buffalo

Speaker 4 Baltimore, Henry, running the ball, Jackson, Derek Henry, lamar jackson uh i hope his leg ain't fully healed by then i hate that i know that i know i know hey look at lamar i used to want to play against everybody

Speaker 4 100 i picked you up on the way to the game if you now you want something now you want somebody in there limping in

Speaker 4 now you want them limping in

Speaker 4 i just want to win

Speaker 4 I just want to be able to sit there and be like, this is the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 We at least in the playoffs. We're going to see a lot this week at Buffalo.

Speaker 4 Dude, I done lowered my standard. I'm just trying to get there.
You're just trying to get there.

Speaker 4 I'm not hoping for 500. What the?

Speaker 4 Damn, Debo, how the tables have turned.

Speaker 4 But look, we got Buffalo this weekend. We're going to be there.
in pit

Speaker 4 so i'm going to say we're going to be there real time i'm going to be able to look and see and watch you. Why let's let's just pray.
Let's hope for good, though. Let's hope for good.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'm always hoping for good. I'm always hoping for good

Speaker 4 because I know

Speaker 4 it's just so much.

Speaker 4 Do we know if A-Rod is starting? I don't, I don't, I don't care. I don't care.
I don't care who is there, man. The defense is gonna have to do it, bro.
The defense go have to do it.

Speaker 4 I don't care about the offensive side of the wall anymore, bro. As long as they ain't turning the ball over.

Speaker 4 And I don't, I don't, dude, I don't, I don't, I don't care, man. Like, we, and even if they turn it over, we have to stop.
We have to stop them. We have to put out fires, bro.

Speaker 4 Look at, look, look, San Fran.

Speaker 4 They put out fires, bro. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If we had did that

Speaker 4 and gave up only three on

Speaker 4 on the on the turnovers, on the three turnovers, they would only had, they had, what was it, 18 less points.

Speaker 4 You're right.

Speaker 4 Sudden change. So the defense, like you said, if they don't score, they don't win.
So the defense could really be the, they got to step up, especially making all of the

Speaker 4 defense. I keep like, it's not about

Speaker 4 we ain't got no money to get nobody on offense. So we are relying on our defense to make it happen.

Speaker 4 And that sucks.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 And we are statistically the worst defense the Pittsburgh Stillers have had since 1988, bro.

Speaker 4 Was you even born? I was born in 89. That's crazy.
You wasn't even born then. You was a thought swimming around in your dad's side.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 4 It was the worst defense since, was that 37 years? Because I'm a smooth 36.

Speaker 4 Dang.

Speaker 4 It's just, dude, I try, dude. It's depressing, bro.

Speaker 4 I'm hoping they're hearing all this, dude, because motivation, something, bro. I love being told what I can't do.
I'm hoping y'all hearing this, dude.

Speaker 4 This is what you did.

Speaker 4 This is what you did before they played the coach. Desire that you have, bro.

Speaker 4 I'm just not, dude.

Speaker 4 Ramsey. Yes, I love it, dude.

Speaker 4 That dude wanted, bro. I seem wanting it.
He ain't turning nothing down. He's giving you everything that he can give you out there.
I'm not letting up on this quarterback.

Speaker 4 He got one foot in and I'm bombing on him. I bet you if if Ramsey was right there when Michaela was running out there on that screen,

Speaker 4 he might not have finished that game. Yeah, I love Ramsey energy.
He's bringing, he said, he's bringing the energy, he says the tone. And now we got Herbick to SWAT.

Speaker 4 Everybody just got to come off that thing and ball. It can't get pushed back, Debo.
We have to establish a line of scrimmage

Speaker 4 again,

Speaker 4 scheme.

Speaker 4 A scheme, dude. What we're doing, what they're assigned to have to do.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Sometimes they're out of position. The position that they got to be in ain't the one they should be in.
But then at the same time, too, Debo, the simple shit, punch and widen.

Speaker 4 You have to reroute number two.

Speaker 4 Like, dude, just listen to the interviews, dude. McQueen, he's like, yo, we know what's happening and they still doing, they still getting it done.
We know what's coming. They still getting it.

Speaker 4 What is that telling you?

Speaker 4 We know it we know it we see it we ain't stopping it

Speaker 4 it still ain't getting done either somebody ain't getting it done or they ain't in position to get it done either way it go it ain't getting done but he's like yo we know it is coming and we can't stop it hopefully

Speaker 4 like that was actually like on some interview where he said this

Speaker 4 you know how frustrated you got to be to say that

Speaker 4 I know it.

Speaker 4 No, I'm saying as a player, right now,

Speaker 4 I don't care. I can say whatever I want to say.

Speaker 4 Like, dude, I thought we were bad when we were ranked five when I played with the Stillers, dude.

Speaker 4 We would talk to each other like, bro, we trash.

Speaker 4 We were one, one, five, two, one, one.

Speaker 4 Dude. We're 28th right now.

Speaker 4 I don't even think I've ever played on the defense rank that low. No, I'm either.

Speaker 4 And you played for the

Speaker 4 yeah, and I did. And our fucking, and our defense was nice as hell.

Speaker 4 The Browns' defense, when I was there, nice as hell, Debo. Yeah, disrespectful.
Our offense needed to pick up some.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? That's why I had a bunch of quarterbacks when I was here, but that defense always was smacking ass all the time.

Speaker 4 True,

Speaker 4 Jackson. you know what I'm saying, Gibson, you know what I'm saying? Paul Cruz.
Okay, so now I'm over here

Speaker 4 at the defense

Speaker 4 that the Stillers need the Browns defense

Speaker 4 is our is dude. I hope our offense ain't ranked higher than our defense.
Oh, they have to be. They can't be ranked.
Oh, well, she

Speaker 4 would say our offense probably like 25, then

Speaker 4 yeah i'm not

Speaker 4 bro just thinking about it making yes making you mad

Speaker 4 right

Speaker 4 i don't i don't i don't i don't

Speaker 4 we got to do something

Speaker 4 we got to do something we got to get it done

Speaker 4 like

Speaker 4 but every time i you you just you you you can't talk about the offense at all i know the defense got to do better i know defense got to do better but it's a team game.

Speaker 4 The offense is trash. The coordinator is trash.
We already know this. No, but you got to talk.
You got, you got, you got

Speaker 4 Aaron Rodgers, even though he's old, you got him looking regular.

Speaker 4 We do got him. You got Aaron Rodgers looking regular.

Speaker 4 Stop playing.

Speaker 4 Damn,

Speaker 4 that's not his bad. It could be the vanilla.
Yeah, you're right. The vanilla play caller.

Speaker 4 Stop, dude.

Speaker 4 Look, Debo, I'm listening man. I'm we're gonna be there.
We're gonna be there in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 Matter of fact, we're gonna be there. We're gonna be there for motivation.

Speaker 4 And look here, look here. We're doing a ticket giveaway, too.

Speaker 4 Okay, we're doing ticket giveaway too.

Speaker 4 Sets a two, okay,

Speaker 4 for you guys to come see

Speaker 4 us play.

Speaker 4 I want to say beat. beat you want to say be

Speaker 4 i want to see us

Speaker 4 see us take on play

Speaker 4 take on

Speaker 4 the buffalo bills four o'clock

Speaker 4 okay sir

Speaker 4 we're going to announce it same way saturday we'll announce the winner saturday we're trying to do it a lot earlier you know what i'm saying

Speaker 4 than we did last time we was we was a little we were slacking a little bit on that

Speaker 4 But what you need to do, follow Joe,

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All right.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 Thanksgiving

Speaker 4 around the corner. You see,

Speaker 4 got a full slate of games, baby. You got Green Bay and Detroit.
Great ball. You got Kansas City and Dallas.

Speaker 4 And you got Cincinnati and Baltimore. I'm hoping Cincinnati could be.
I'm praying.

Speaker 4 Because you know, Joe Burrow come back, too.

Speaker 4 They got Joe Burrow back.

Speaker 4 They got Joe Brown.

Speaker 4 Joe Joe Burrow back for Thanksgiving. Hey.
So it's going to be a good game. Yeah, but they defense can't stop a nosebleed, man.
And Derrick Henry gonna run over them boys, man.

Speaker 4 I just feel so sorry for him, bad for him. But I'm still rooting for you because we need you to beat Baltimore so we can get back.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
You got them good slated games.

Speaker 4 They're going to catch them. Good slated games for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 I'm going to get off here right now because I keep thinking about we having to play.

Speaker 4 Yes,

Speaker 4 it's Sunday. Be ready.

Speaker 4 This is what we go do.

Speaker 4 We go thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Because I was about to say something, foolish, like we was going anyway.

Speaker 4 Okay, please make sure you guys hit the like and subscribe button. We'll be right back here on Friday after those Thanksgiving games.
Uh, Joseph, you have anything to say?

Speaker 4 Lozer, I would like to say thank you guys for tuning in. Catch us on Friday after these Thursday night games.
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