Nightcap Hour 2: WBC STRIPS Bud Crawford of TITLE BELT + Boxer Alycia Baumgardner joins NIGHTCAP + OBJ RESPONDS to CRITICS on SPENDING HABITS + Abdul Carter HASN’T LEARNED his LESSON

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The WBC stripped Bud Crawford for not paying sanctioning bodies.

He won the title. Is she up?

Okay, hold up. We know.

What happened? Bud goes off on the WBC. Crawford says all the sanctioning bodies accepted what he paid them, and he's not paying $300,000 in a sanctioning fee to the WBC.
The WBC says he owes.

According to the WBC, Crawford allegedly earned $50 million for that fight. Appreciating the magnitude of the event, the WBC modified its rule to limit the boxers' bout fee to 0.6%,

a sanctioning fee, instead of the typical 3% the WBC rules, regulations require.

The WBC was going to allocate 75% of the Crawford boxing bout to the Jose Suleiman Boxers Fund, which goes to go to fighters that, you know, that's down in their luck.

That's, you know, what case may be yeah well the wbc had no choice but to act considering champion crawford had received multiple and received ample notifications and multiple opportunities to address and resolve the situation the wbc said now uh on the line between christian mbealy oh yeah oh sure that's the one we saw yeah yeah yeah yeah he he knocked out um then he just knocked out somebody recently i can't i can't remember no he was uh the dude remember he was fighting he was they were throwing them haymakers yeah and it was a draw he had a draw the last fight

that was the one before Bud.

The black dude, the African dude.

Yeah.

And Hamaz Shariz

in a mandatory bout.

Damn, man.

And Bud responded too. Bud responded.

He talked about all the other

title holders, you know, WBO.

They accepted what he gave them. Yeah, he said everybody accepted the same amount of money after those fights.
And for some reason, regardless of what was written, regards to what you just read,

they wanted more for him to be able to attain and hold on to the WBC belt. And he was like, nah, I'm not paying more.
And then they want an apology of some sort. And I mean, it's a mess.
But I mean,

I understand it. I can see it from Crawford's standpoint in a sense.
Obviously,

something is wrong with it, and he doesn't see fit. And for him to go off the way he did, which is uncharacteristic of him,

very uncharacteristic of him. So, I mean, I obviously, I have no choice but to be on his side because this is something that he wouldn't do.
Yeah.

You got to pay the, you got to pay the box. No, you got to pay for it.
Well, you got to pay for the trophies. Them bells cost, Joe.

You got to pay a six feet for them belts. I ain't paying for no trophy.
Yeah, Joe, you gotta pay. You gotta pay.
You gotta pay the fee to keep them belts. Hold on.

So, because I seen when Boyd won, he went back and gave dude. He went back and gave

up. Because those people, he's like, yeah, they're gonna see the new ones.
Yeah. They make new belts.
But when he got to the basement,

you gotta pay for all them new belts. Yeah, you gotta pay for them belts, boy.
Yeah.

Yeah, when you see fighters come into the ring, you gotta pay a sanctioning fee for them belts, Joe.

Yeah. And if you don't pay the fee, then they take them.
They should take them from you.

You don't fight the mandatory, they'll take the belt belt from you. You don't pay the sanctioning feed, they'll take them from you.

Yeah,

that's that's crazy. I mean, listen, that's that's the way the game has always been that way.
The game has always been that way, but he just is

always been funny style

to be honest with you.

Hey, it's funny, you know, the one putting their life on the line and getting in there, getting in the ring, the one put going into camp, doing the work three months out the year.

And

I

listen, it's just it's just boxing. It's the way it's always been.

I guess he just didn't see fit to pay the amount that they wanted. When everyone else agreed to the amount he paid for the other fees he's paid, he just wasn't willing to do so.

It's tough, man. Look, bud, say, man, look here.
I ain't giving y'all no no more money. I'm cool.
Right.

And another thing. Canelo, you want to rematch?

I want 100 million. I will be the A-side this time around.

Listen, Uncle He's the A side, Joe. He's the A side from now on.

Yeah, I mean, that's but I ain't fighting but one more time, but Joe. I mean, because

where can he make money? I mean, at that point in time, you make 100 million. It's hard to go back down and make 10.

Two more. Two more.
Because the fact

he can, I say, I mean, honestly, I'm not sure who's out there for him to fight now.

Maybe a rematch with Canelo. And I think

a fight that everyone wants to see. And the fact that he gets to command how much he makes.
I say maybe boots after boots

hey listen early 2026 when boots beat virgil or tiz that people think can actually hang with that

styles win fights joe and huh styles win fights virgil or t's is a phenomenal boxer he's a phenomenal fighter but boots style nullifies and everything becomes null and void once he gets in that ring with boots and i can't wait i can't wait till that contract gets done you hold on people can actually see you think you saying booze ready for crawford

no i i said i said there's something that everyone wants to see that that's all i say is i said something that everyone wants to see i don't think booth i don't think booze crawford can command the payday that he would get the only fight that other than canelo would probably be benavidez no you trying to get the man killed i'm just saying what's gonna command the hundred million dollar purse Booth ain't gonna command no hundred million dollar purse, oh Joe.

Oh, wait a minute, hold on, hold on. If if once, let's, let's say, um, let's say if he does fight Canelo again, right?

Yes, in that rematch, and he wins a rematch, which he will do because there's nothing Canelo can do

that can improve that much better in that short amount of time where you would beat Bud Crawford. There's nothing you can do, there's nothing you can do.
So, I'm just saying,

with that being said, he is able to command that kind of money. Turkey Ali has made boxing great again.

Turkey Ali would want to see that fight. He would want to see a bud in a goddamn Boots fight.
And if Bud says, I want $100 million

because it's almost like it's high risk, low reward. But Turkey will make sure the purse will be there where, you know what?

You can take that risk now because here's the money for it.

Me personally,

I don't think Turkey would put up $100 million purse to see Boots and Bud, but I do think he'll put up $100 million purse for Benavidez, Bud.

Yeah, that's a big-ass fight. Benavidez walks around.
Ain't no telling what Benavidez walks around as. But I'm saying, now, would I take that fight?

Look, I don't think at this point in time, Bud to really have anything else to prove. He really doesn't.
I'll take this rematch with Canelo,

get my $100 million, and I'm out. Because you can't, he made $150 million

the last two fights. Plus what he made against Spence probably made $10, $12 against that fight.
If he can't live off that, let's just say, hey, he can't live off that, you?

You know,

if I'm, I don't know. Okay, but you're probably right.
I would love to see it. I would love to see, Alicia.

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Alicia Baumgartner, the super featherweight

championship. Where are the belts at? We want to see the belts.
What about? You want to see the belts? Well, listen, I got one. I want to see the belts.
I got one.

Sanction the body, take them back when you don't pay the sanctioning fee. Listen,

I am the belt. Let's just get that straight.
And one,

for two, it's Alicia, y'all.

Alicia? Okay. Not Alicia, please.
Thank you. Alicia.
Yes. I have a question.
What's your question? Before we even start, just a question for you. Obviously, with your knowledge

in knowing boxing, and right now I see the way boxing is going right now, boxing is now great again what do you think at some point in time before crawford hangs the gloves up a fight between crawford and boots

as in

just just in general what do you what do you think would that not be a great fight i think that would be a great fight i think you have two great athletes and you know anything with someone who has an athletic ability we can see really who's going to have a better game plan when it comes to boxing right so i think i like that fight see i told you onk but here's the thing Do you believe they put up the, because for me, I told Ocho, I think the big, look, fight Canelo again, try to get $100 million.

But for another $100 million fight, it's going to have to be someone that they really feel that Crawford could lose. That's why Turkey put up the $100 million to fight Canelo.

And that would be Benavidez. No.

And be telling Benavidez too goddamn big, man. They said that about Canelo.
Yeah.

I mean, it's different.

It is a little different. I do have to agree with that.
It is slightly different with Benavidez and the Canelo,

just

in regards to skill and when we think about selling a fight.

So

that's just. You recently defended

your Unified Super Featherweight titles against Jennifer Miranda in July of 25, and you described that performance as a B plus.

Now you got Layla Abouda in.

to execute better. So

what didn't you like about the fight that you previously had?

What I didn't like about it is that I hold a very high standard for myself as an athlete, as a fighter. And, you know, I've had a, I had a long layoff up until that point.

And so I know what I require of self. And again, a B plus is not bad, but I know what I'm better at doing.

So it was, it's, it's always a learning lesson and it's always an opportunity to go back and do what I do best. And that's to study.
That's to be better. That's to be sharper sharper and stronger.

And whatever adjustments I need to make come

December 19th. Yeah, go ahead.

You know what's funny is I watched the last fight and the fact that you gave yourself a B plus is funny because when I, the eye test for me, actually watching you dominate that fight, whether it be inside the pocket, fighting from distance, you control the goddamn fight.

So I'm curious, how do you improve on what I just saw when you fought last time? When it damn near looked perfect to me.

Oh, oh listen there there's so much more improvement and it's just really the you know styles make fights we know that and miranda was a little awkward style right so i'm having to make adjustments as i go and i just know when you can be aggressive but strategic and how you how you move if you can double up on the jab but more on the faints there's so there's just a bigger and guess what i'm fighting three minutes this next go around so i have an extra minute to really dig in that bag like i'm not coming with no small bag y'all i'm coming with a birken knuckle bag like the skills is deep okay yeah so you got it's gonna be so you probably you mentioned that that's where i was going next you're like fighting under the men's rule where you got 12 three minute rounds correct correct yes so 12 rounds three minutes this is a standard for men's boxing yeah they asked me alicia do you want to do it i said bet let's do it i'm all for accepting a challenge and again the fact that i have an extra minute to really dig in my bag of tools y'all listen y'all gonna see y'all gonna be glued to the tv yeah and you know what the fact that you're doing three minutes now obviously 12 rounds does that change the way you prepare as far as camp is concerned do you do you train a different way now yeah i listen the the the training has always been um

aggressive but for this one it's it's more strategic right and I've been in camp, y'all, for 12 weeks. We know that the fight had got postponed.
So I've been in the gym.

So there's nothing but work after work and always working on the next thing and i'm ready okay

it's funny hey how do you i've got one more question how do you

how do you what's what's the word i'm looking for how do you um you train to a point where you don't burn yourself out where you don't over train to make sure that when you do fight you're still fresh you're sharp and you and you you polish without over training while you're in camp and doing too much yeah i think it's important to know who you are as a fighter.

Mentally, it could be a little draining. So, if I go in the gym, I say, Derek, you know, I'm having a little mental day because you know, we've been doing the same thing.

Okay, we may do some film study, we may just work on the bag, we may just do mitts.

And I think it's important to find that balance because you're going to need that come fight week and come the night of the fight. So, I definitely pay attention to how I'm feeling.

Um, physically, I'm in there all day, every day, but it's just more the mental aspect for me. Yeah, Alicia, uh

your conditioning is is pretty elite right what's what's a part of your training or nutrition that uh that you enjoy doing that people will probably be shocked to know

y'all gotta know I stay in the gym because I like to stay in the gym so that's one thing like I like to stay fit fitness is what I do and I have a chef for this camp.

So I'm always making sure that I'm eating the right foods.

You know, it's performance-based, y'all. So if I get the better advantage on how I eat, the water I'm drinking every day and

what I'm putting into my body, I want to have the best performance. So I'm making sure that, you know, everything is aligning and I'm staying.
I'm staying. It's a lifestyle.
I do this.

Absolutely.

Because you said, go ahead, Joe. Go ahead.
Finish up your question. Now, like, even on days, even when you know you don't have a fight coming up in the next six to eight months, you know what I mean?

Is your regimen still pretty strict? Do you still train pretty hard? Like, what's the mindset with that? Yeah, for me, it's always still being in the gym. It's to stay active.

Y'all know, you know, as athletes, this is what we've done our whole life. So I can't sit still, you know? And so I always make sure I'm in shape.
I'm always doing something.

If that's not me working out, it's working somebody out.

But I'm always staying ready, like just physically.

This is a, I think this is one of the things that really helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd was probably five to seven pounds away from his fighting weight, so you're not getting too far away from your actual fighting weight, so you don't have to kill yourself in those eight, 10, 12 weeks that you're in to try to make you're not trying to cut 30, 40 pounds.

Not at all,

trying to cut what, 10, 12 pounds.

Listen, y'all, I'm fasting for a day and dropping two pounds

and dropping two pounds for real. That's it.

I stay within 10 pounds. I'm 140 right now.
If I eat a good meal, 143, back down to 140. So honestly,

I don't kill myself. I enjoy fight week.
I'm smiling. I get to eat.
And it's a joyful weight cut, to say the least. Right.

You know, I have a question about this week, the fight, some of the fights coming up this week.

What do you think? And who do you have in the Pitbull Lamont Roast fight? I love that fight. I like that fight because of, one, they're both, we know Pitbull's aggressive.
He coming forward,

but he's been neutralized already so i want to see how disciplined can lamot be for 12 rounds straight to use his jab to use his skill i think he has better skill than um pit bull so if he can utilize his jab his movements like we saw with him and javante and how um pit bull has already um kind of exposed himself yeah i think we we see we see a winner and that's lamot But again, credit to Pitbull because he don't stop.

So, you know, he's hungry just as much. You know, fighters who get a loss, they come back even hungrier.
So, again, I'm looking forward to that fight.

You have to describe yourself as both a beast, a beast in the ring and a beauty outside the ring. I'm looking at your aesthetically.
I'm like,

why did you decide to fight? What made you push you in this of all, maybe basketball, maybe tennis, maybe tracking field, where you could be glamorized? I'm like, boxing,

get punched in the face. I like it.

It's so funny. To be a beauty and a beast is

to be a warrior, to fight for everything that I've been fighting for as a young girl. And to be a woman, to walk with favor and presence and purpose.

And it's so important that you can find this balance. It's a duality.
Right. And the best part, I don't have to choose y'all.
I embody both.

And so when I'm hitting you like a welterweight and dropping you and doing doing what I got to do,

meet, meet, meet. And I'm stepping outside the ring and I'm a model.
I put, you know, do my hair, my makeup, put a dress on.

The heels, listen, it's, it's a duality and I love to embody both.

And I love that I can be a fighter and fight for the things that I love and to really showcase what it is to be that beauty and that beast.

You know, when you talk about being that beauty and that beast and fighting for the things you love, something that you've done since you were young, obviously, I'm sure maybe as a child growing up, you always wanted to be a fighter or a boxer.

How long do you see yourself doing this? Listen, baby, it's embedded, okay, for one. And two, I see myself doing it until I can't no more.
It's instilled. It's been instilled.

And this is a gift that the Lord has blessed me with.

So it's my duty to make sure that I give it my all and the time to be an active athlete and to be an active woman fighter, to be on the biggest stage come december 19th is is a dream and it's really showcasing how two worlds can coexist and how

men and women it's no it's it's not a um comparison it's a standard to be to have greatness to be great

and um

i don't know that what what what advice would you give young girls

that uh you wish someone had given you when you was younger. What advice would you give young ladies? Yeah, I think it's important to

give a young woman

advice to know what it is to stand in power, what it is to trust your power, what it is to be still and to follow through when things get hard, when things don't seem to go your way.

I think it's important to really mentor the same way I was poured into, into somebody else, because it really goes a long way. Life is hard, y'all.

And also to be a woman in a space that you may not even know who you are.

People have identity issues. You know, you need to know who you are.
So to really encourage those to know who they are, to know themselves, to be able to love them.

Like loving yourself goes a long way, knowing who you are, for sure. You're a fighter.
You mentioned you're a model. Outside of that, is there anything? Do you want to do media?

Is there anything that you do outside of those two things or anything that you would like to do outside of those two things?

Listen, the road is open for whatever is is ahead i love media i love talking i think it's important to to be in different spaces y'all know we got one of the greatest games tomorrow the cowboys versus the lions okay

are you a cowboys or a lions fan listen i gotta give it to you like this okay the eagles i love that they have the champion mindset and they did that showed that but also the cowboys done showed up in these last two games so i'm like

well what are we doing what are we doing where's the mentality simple question

Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes or no? Because I'm about to hit this power button.

Yes, I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm in Dallas, y'all.
Of course, I'm in Dallas.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm a fan.

I'm a fan of the winner's team. Hello?

I'm a fan. I'm a fan when people win, baby.
Like,

I know. Hey, B, you can't do that.
Who are you a fan of before they were winning? Like, who is your, who is your team? Oh, Joe Shoe. I see.

Listen, I was,

I still am a Lions fan. When I lived in Detroit, I seen the Lions go from here to here to be the underdog to being a top dog and really showing out every game.
I'm like, yo, that's the Lions.

That's that Detroit

hunger that they got, right? And then, you know, I left Detroit, came to Dallas.

And, you know, the atmosphere of being in Dallas and what the Cowboys represent, I think it still shows just the grit that they still want to be that team like they were years ago, right?

So

you can't switch allegiance like that just because you relocated somewhere else now.

I know that listen, everybody's like, you need to pick a side. I say, I understand that, but you know, I picked the winner's side, you know, I'm a, I'm a child

running. And that's a reality.
That ain't no picking on. That's front running.

That's not fair.

Ocho, boy, y'all gotta take them hater jackets out.

No, no, no. Hey, Joe, Joe,

I'm not hating. I'm just saying, like, she's saying what she's saying, Ocho.
What you want her to do? That's what you're going for. That's what I do.

That's That's her thing. What you want her to tell me? So, let me ask you, Alicia, where are you originally from? I'm from Fremont, Ohio.
Okay. Which is.

So you should be a Browns or a Bengals fan.

I'm definitely, listen. I'm definitely a Michigan fan.
Charles Woods is from my hometown. So it kind of falls into, it kind of falls into that.
I know I'm all over the place, but that's okay.

Cause I can be. Okay.

You are right. I can be.

I can be. I come from, listen, y'all.
I come from a small country town in Ohio. And so being in a city like Michigan, you know, I've always been a Michigan fan.

So, you know, I'm like, you know, I like this. You know, Ohio State, I mean, shout out to Danny.
Just one. I get that.
But, you know. She that type.
You know what?

She's going to show up wanting one team to win. The other team score first.
Yeah, I'll put that team right there. Yeah, let's go.
Nah, nah, nah. I'm going to stick to my side.

I'm going to stick to my side.

Okay. You know what? To go back to boxing, I have one more.
Obviously, AB, you know how much I love boxing.

Obviously, that's why I keep asking these goddamn questions and i don't mean to put that i don't mean to put the character before the horse but december 19th i already know what it's going to look like i already know what you're going to do i understand your style i've seen the young lady that you're fighting i don't mean to put the goddamn character before the horse but if you were to want to fight someone else if you were to to to have a name that you want to see after this victory because i'm telling you what's going to happen december 19th Is there anybody out there that you want to fight after this one?

I would love to fight Katie Taylor.

I would love to fight Katie Taylor. Katie Taylor is a pedigree of a fighter.
No, let me not say that, of a boxer.

And because I have skills like a boxer, you will see a boxer that's so high class and so high level that you will appreciate. You would think.

You wouldn't even say two women are fighting. You would just enjoy the boxing aspect, right? And I think, you know, Katie has done a lot for the sport, has changed the game.

And I would love a fight fight with her.

Those fights with Sariano was unbelievable.

I know.

They went down to the wire. I thought the first fight, I thought she had it out of there.
But hey, Taylor dug deep.

She dug deep. She dug deep, and I respect that.

A couple of more boxing questions. You saw with the WBC stripped Bud of the title because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fees.

You got stripped of your title because

they like that, nah, the women fighting, you know, 12, you know, 12 rounds at three minutes each. Nah, we're not a part of that.

So are you okay with this?

You know, like

anything, we make the belt. The belt don't make us.
Come on now.

And it's important that

we worked very hard to get to a space where we can say we're undisputed and we are a world champion, but it does not,

it will not take away from the fact that you can't say, I did that. And again,

you know, boxing is a freelance sport, y'all. Boxing is a wild, wild west.
Still is. And so it's just one of those things.

You got to make sure that you are going to be straight with yourself because no one else is going to take care of you like you're going to take care of yourself.

So

that's what that looks like. And, you know, I had the opportunity to keep my belt, but I said, you know what? No.

I'm going to accept this challenge. I'm going to do this 12 rounds, three minutes, and make history.
And that's exactly what I'm doing. I like it.
I like it. Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua.

If this is on the up and up, do you give Jake Paul a realistic chance? Anthony Joshua is a super heavyweight. He won the gold medal.
We know

he got dynamite in that right hand. He's a ginormous of 6'4, 245, 250.

I think his promoter said that he's like 265, so he's going to have to shed some weight right now.

Tell us what you think.

Give us the fighter's approach to this. What are you thinking about this fight? Yeah, so listen, my eye test saying a lot of things, all right? And

for real,

you know, listen, this is so cliche to say, but any, any fighter has a chance, right? We've seen Jake Paul knock people out and we've seen Anthony Joshua knock people out. They both have

a punching chance, right?

Who is gonna, who's going to have a better game plan? That's the question, right? You have a height difference. You have a weight difference.
But again, I have to give credit where credit's due.

Jake has been able to train with some quality trainers from Detroit that I know, and he's been able to progress in a way that a lot of people haven't, that people still don't believe in.

So this is an opportunity for Jake to really showcase some real skill and a real game plan to be Anthony Joshua.

But then on the other hand, I respect Anthony Joshua, who is also a heavyweight champion, who is also saying, you know what, you really playing it crazy.

I'm about to show you what real boxing is about, right? Because there's still this, is it real? Is it not? It's real.

We saw Jake Paul knock out people that weren't boxers. The one boxer that he fought, he did not beat, which was Tyson Fury's Tommy Fury.

Now, this is a real professional prize-fighting boxer, a heavyweight champion.

This is different than knocking out people that came from the NBA or came from MMA or things of that nature. This is an actual prize fighter that

still fights actively.

This is true. But you know one thing about the mind, when you believe in yourself and you see no other way but win,

that's the mentality that Jake has. And I think he's just shown that every time he's up in the ring, regardless of who it is, I'm here.
I did this. I'm about to show y'all again.

And I like, you know, the mentality matters.

You have to know you're going to go in there and win, even if it's delusion. I don't know.

Yep. You know what? And one last boxing question.
This is my last question. And it's more of a statement and a question for you.
Obviously, Uncle Joe,

I'm letting y'all know ahead of time. Alicia, there's another really good fight.
Two of the greatest fighters of all time that are going to be fighting soon.

Three minute, 12 rounds. Andre Ward.
Andre Ward is coming back out of retirement. He's going to fight me sometime in 2026.

With your expertise and you knowing how much I love and how long I've been training, what round do you think I'm going to knock Andre Ward ass out next year? Keep it 100. I'm going 12 rounds.

Yeah, hell yeah. Okay.
Keep it 100. Hopefully, four.

Oh, so you want me to put him out in four? Yeah, I don't want you to go. I don't want you to get in that deep water.

Yeah, you know, I can swim all.

After round seven, tell him, Alicia, after that round seven, you start getting into deep waters. Listen, we're gonna have to see how them legs are.
I will say this, though, Ocho.

You got a great stance, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got the fundamentals. I'm not gonna take that away.

So I think when you can learn to, you know, use that back leg a little more, push all that thing, you know, the power, you may have a puncher's chance. Oh, that's me.
That's me. That's me.
That's me.

That's me. For real.
For real.

Yeah. Well, good luck on tonight, team, Alicia.
Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you taking time out to stop by tonight, Capper.
I'm sure I chat, chat. Really appreciate you stopping by.

Best of luck. And when you win the, when you, I don't know if she got a belt.
If she got a belt, take that belt, come back and show it to us. Cause we ain't seen no belts tonight.

Listen, I got all the belts, sir.

Like I said, I got all the belts. I am the belt, but yes, you will see.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your time.
Good luck, and uh, we'll see you down the road. Yeah, Alicia Baumgartner joining us tonight.
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Hey, hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, I'm going to beat the shit out of Andre Wood, boy.
Hey, hey, Dre, I hope you see this, Dre. You got to get past Debo first.

I love you like a brother, but boy, it's going down, boy. Hey, boy, you write a lot of checks, Ojo.
Huh? You writing a lot of checks. It's one thing about my checks.
They're going to bounce.

I know.

Oh, hey, guys, check this out. Odell Beckham tweeted, presumably.
I guess it's at us. Boy, you can't say nothing in the world nowadays.

That's why I've been in my own lane, my own world, and put it the way. People love to take ish out of context to rationalize a statement in their own head that makes sense to them.
What a world.

Video came out today of Odell selling game-worn chrome heart cleats for 50K.

Yeah, hey, Uncle Remember, remember when you were telling me the story, Unk? And I said,

I thought he was giving perspective and context on how difficult it is to be able to manage money.

I didn't really think he was talking about himself. No, but Ocho, if you got, Ocho, what's difficult about managing 60 million liquid? Hold on.
Whoa, what's difficult?

The number, the percentage of athletes, NBA, NFL, MLB is damn near 90% now. So, I mean,

it's difficult.

That's why I thought, I thought, I thought, because the first thing when he said it and gave context and perspective on how difficult it is, I thought he was meaning in general, not specifically talking about himself.

That's all. But go ahead.
But

I get what he's saying. Yes, sir.
But you're spending, first of all, spending $4 million

in

yearly expenses. Yes, sir.
Your home, family home, X, Y, and Z. Yes.
Well, first of all, to spend that, you need to make at least $10 million. Right.
Because depending on where you are.

Now, if you're in a state that takes 50%, now if you're in Los Vegas, you're in Nevada. You're in Texas.
you're in Florida, I think Ohio has no state income tax. I think Arizona is like 2%.

So if you're in one of those states, so it's going to take about 10 million to do that, to have that kind of lifestyle. Now.

Now, what happens is, Ocho, is that you still try to maintain that lifestyle, Joe, when you're not bringing in 10 million and you're still spending that money kind of money going out.

That's why they go out. That's why you see guys go belly up, Ocho, is that you don't change your spending habits.

It's the same way, if you're an athlete, you eat whatever you want you work out now all of a sudden you're not an athlete and you still eat whatever you want now all of a sudden dbs look like d lineman

that's what happens with money hey hey unk think about what you just said hey joe think about what you just said right think about what unk just said real quick right is you're living a lifestyle when the money's coming in fast right you you become accustomed to that lifestyle that lifestyle actually becomes your image and it becomes an identity yeah

so once you stop playing the the transition to be able to stop and have the discipline to be able to cut it off,

to become

a minimalist, almost in a sense, it's almost impossible. It's hard.
Because you always want to maintain that lifestyle and that damage.

Because what's the first thing everybody that you're trying to goddamn impress don't say? Oh, he ain't got it no more.

Oh, he broke it. The first time about your you ain't got a new car, man.
Hey, he must be doing bad. He ain't doing bad.
Right.

Hey, you should see him with a new whip every other year.

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, and Uncle, one thing about it, boy, I learned early.
I learned early. I did not want to try to keep up with the Joneses.
I did not want to keep up.

Hey, Joe, and I, and Joe, I did it when I was making the bulk of my money, Joe. Joe, I came in the NFL already cheap as hell.
I didn't care about people making fun of me.

I didn't care about certain types of women not wanting to date me because they know, yeah, he ain't gonna, he ain't paying nothing. He's not, you know, you ain't getting nothing out of me.

That's that's okay. But I understand, I understand dealing with you is nothing but a liability anyway.
Right. You know, I got the table and the legs you got ain't gonna hold it up.
Hello. Hello.

You know, so you understand that you play the game, Joe. It's all a game.
And the better you learn to play the game, the longer you will be able to be without.

It's okay. But

so many of us, Uncle. Unknown, so many of us are so caught up in looking like we fucking got it.
Like, I don't, everybody want to be rich.

Everybody want to look like they, like like shit no that that's that's not reality social media has us fooled it has all of us fooled they ain't got me fool

they ain't got me fooled because I know damn well I do okay and I ain't living like that no I ain't got it like that

you know what's scary Joe Joe this this is scary part and this is this is for men and women when it comes to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle.

And you know, they don't make the kind of money to continue that lifestyle, especially if you don't play sports.

If you don't play sports and you and all this flashy shit, that means you're willing to do anything,

anything to maintain that image. Well,

that in itself is dangerous, Joe. Yeah,

if you leave the sport and you get you a gig and you making money like Stephen A. You making money like Strayhan, you making money like

Tony Romo, you making money like Tom Brady. Yeah, take off.
Wait, hold on, hold on.

Now, what you're not going do is i ain't gonna mean i don't mean to put the people in our business but if you're making money like uncanocho man

you hey listen hey boy hey

huh uh uh

don't set everybody up everybody good mom good sister good everybody good listen listen uh i'm gonna say i'm gonna say this one more time

i

see them numbers at the end of each month yeah just just add us to that goddamn equation

i'm gonna tell you what my grandma always told me.

Huh? Speaking into existence. We do okay.
Hey, speaking into existence. Hello.

We do okay, Ocho.

We do okay.

Hey, when you say okay, add three more wives to it.

Okay.

Ocho,

I saw a guy today.

I read a quote. Yes, the guy was, he was basically saying, he says, as you become more famous and you become more well-off, relationships become more transactional.

Understand that.

Understand that. I'm learning that.
Do me a favor. Do me a favor.
Just in case the chat didn't hit you because I got one for you. Say it one more time.
Say it one more time.

Make sure the chat hit you. The more famous you become and the more well-op you become, the relationships become more transactional.
Y'all know what transactional is. Yes.
I agree.

Hey,

let me dive a little deeper for you real quick, Uncle Joe. Even if you're not wealthy,

even if you're not making millions, even if you're making 100,000, or even if you're a thousandaire, you know,

you get paid every two weeks, the individual that you're dealing with is still dealing with you based on the ability for you to provide and give them stability and a sense of peace. Always.

Always. So it still aligns.

That same quote and analogy that Unc used, it still aligns regardless of how much you make based on your partner. Ask your partner and tell her to be truthful.
If you lost the opportunity to provide,

if she'll still be there, ask your partner if you being able to make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you

didn't present itself in a good manner if she will still be there. And tell her to be honest with you.

And you know, a lot of women will say, oh, I don't deal with nobody for no money.

It ain't about that. Like, come on now, let's stop.

And the funny thing about it is, you're always paying for who you're dealing with.

And the only thing, this is the only thing, Chad, I want you to do me a small favor.

Go to my Twitter and read my bio.

Now, there's a joke at the beginning, but I tell the truth towards the end. And I'm going to just leave that.
Just go to my Twitter and read my bio. And the truth is sitting right there.

No matter what they try to tell you, that's what it all comes down to. No matter what they say.
Yeah.

But I just think the thing is, look, $100 million contract, I think everybody understands 100 million. Nobody's getting all 100 million of that.
You got to pay, you got to pay federal income tax.

I don't give a damn what state you live in. You've got to pay federal income tax and you have something called a jock tax.

If you're a professional athlete and you go to certain states, you got to pay for the money that you earned there.

If you go to certain states and you work, you have to pay money that you earn in that state.

So I think everybody is, nobody is under the assumption anymore that when they see 100 million, somebody actually got 100 million.

But to get 60, to get, basically, if you, like I said, you live in a tax-free state and you only got to pay 30, 30, let's just say on the high end, you're paying 37% federal income tax.

That means of a million dollars, you get 637, you get 630,000.

So if you bring home, if you got 60 million liquid,

theoretically, Ocho,

you put that in a fund, you put that in a fund, you're going to get 5% to 8%. There'll be some years you get 10, 12%.

yeah so even if you're just getting five percent on 60 million that's three million dollars a year man if you can't live off three million dollars a year you got issues yeah really now i'm not saying like not like a jay-z or somebody that got full-time security and they got all these chefs and they got all these people obviously it requires more than that but i'm saying for the average person yeah

like myself joe you i mean man if you can't live off three million whoa whoa whoa whoa listen i'm not average i'm extraordinary

i'm cheap cheap as hell. No, I'm just bullshit.

But I'm saying people like us because the average person is not going to be in a situation to make that kind of money. Right.

So I'm not talking about, I'm talking about, look, if you got, if you make a, if you make a million dollars a year,

unless you got extraordinary expenses, that should, you should be good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Get you a nice little, get you a nice little house payment, say, you know, five somewhere between $500 and $7,500 a month. Get you a nice car.
You and your wife get a nice car.

She got one. You got one.
Kids, because probably, if you make that kind of money, OJo, it's hard. You're going to probably be sending your kids to private school.

It just is what it is. There are very few people that make a million dollars a year and the kids go to public school.

I'm just being honest with you. Now, I know everybody says, I'll send my kids.
It's easy for you to say that when you're not in that situation.

But most people that make that kind of money, their kids go to private school.

And what we were trying to do, we didn't say it was, we were just trying to say how people go belly up.

Because when you have kids, multiple kids, and you live in certain states and you pay $5,000, $10,015, $20,000 per child, you got three kids.

If you're paying that kind of money for the kids, guess what else you're paying for? Private school. Private schools cost you somewhere between $10,000 and $30,000 a year.
So now compound that. Yeah.

So you paying $100,000 a year. Ooh.

$100,000.

Yeah.

No, you're paying $100,000. Yeah.
So if you pay $20,000, 20, 20, that's 60,000 a month times 18 years. Hey.

Plus another, plus, let's just say, oh, children, you got three kids and they go to private school, and that's another 20,000. So that's another 60,000 a year times 18.

Well, they're not going to stay the same because private schools go up every year. So it might start out at 20, and by the time they get to be seniors, that's probably be 30, 35.

So we're just trying to explain to people how it happens.

Is that that's why they say, hey, get you one if i could do it over again i'd have all my kids from one i'd be married save myself a lot of money a lot of attorney fees also hey

see see that's why that's why i'm thankful hey joe sometimes i gotta get up see that's what i'm gonna do just this conversation in general i'm i'm gonna get on my knees after the show and i'm i'm gonna thank god i'm gonna thank god because unkn just ran off them goddamn numbers right and that's just and you think joe i got eight joe I got eight, Joe, and I ain't listening.

Hey, hold on, listen to me.

Let me tell you while I'm, Joe, let me tell you what I'm grateful, though, Joe. Unc just ran off them numbers, right? Boy, I ain't never seen or never had to do nothing like that, Joe.
You know?

No private school. None of your kids went to private schools, none of that?

Nah, nah, nah, nah, Joe. Joe, my kids need a carriage.
It's a different time now, though, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, my kids need a character.

Yeah. Even, even, even, even now, Ocho, what you was paying, you'd probably have to double that.
Even just because the cost of living is higher.

You're talking about 15, 18, 20 years ago.

So you know what the cost is right now. Yeah, so obviously the cost of living has gone up.
So is the cost of raising a child has gone up.

Hey, Joe, hey, some of them numbers Unc was ripping off too.

You know, them people, them the type of people, you know, having kids by certain people, it ain't really about the child in the first place.

That's what they're doing. Come on, now.

Come on, now. Yeah.

Can you imagine having to pay for a child $50,000 a month?

$100,000 a month? Yeah. Two years old? What the hell? What are we doing? Uh-huh.

Boy. The fact that they grant that to some people.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because

it's based off the income. It's mind-boggling.
I'm like, man,

how somebody needs 30, 40, 50K a month for a child, bro.

I know a guy that was paying in the early 2000s was playing $14,000 a month. I know, yeah, I know a few cats.

Who paying more than that? $15,000 a month.

I know a dude paying $17,000 a month. $22,000 a month.
I'm like, man.

But you know, $168,000 a year

is where you file it too, though.

You know where

they have them kids at. Now, there are some states that the map is cap.
You could only get X amount. You might only get $3,500.
You only get $5,000.

And then some states, they base it on how much the father makes.

But I'm saying. And they make you responsible for the private tuition because they say if

the child should be afforded a life that if the child was with you, that the child wouldn't enjoy without you. Absolutely.
Now, I ain't telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you.

Now, see, y'all can talk about a whole lot. Don't know what he's talking about? Yeah.
Bull drive. Yeah.

I'm with you when you're right. Hey.
Hey, boy, that's a.

I'm glad, boy, those I had kids from, boy, they wasn't like that, man.

Yeah, Joe, I'm Joe. I'm getting on my knee I just just just it make me cringe hearing the numbers that

and then and also

I'm present Joe

Joe and that's my thing uncan ocho it's like these numbers I'm telling y'all I done heard about cats paying and man they they almost got custody of their kids and they still paying absolutely paying this amount absolutely you get the kids during the summer you get the kids for one to two months guess what you still got to send that same money

so we're going to move on. Abdul Carter was asked today about hearing teammates say he needs to grow up.
He responded, I'll take it. The guys who say that are the guys I look up to.
I respect.

If they say something like that, I've got to look at myself and say, how can I get better? Mars Taylor also had a message for Abdul Carter saying, wake up. This is what you work for.

This is where you want to be. So now you're there.
Wake up.

I like it. That's a good response from him.
That's a grown-up response, too. Yeah.
That's a grown-up response, you know.

But normally, you're the number three in the pick of of the draft, and they gotta tell you, oh Joe, you sleeping in meetings, you missed. Come on, now, Ocho.
Yeah, you're right.

We gotta hold these kids accountable. He had a kid.
He's grown-ass man. He's paying bills.
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

They gotta, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we done jumped on it twice already.

We done jumped on you twice already.

We understand, Joe, being an ex-basketball player, Ocho and I being ex-football players.

We understand that some guys mature a little slower than other guys, especially when it comes to being professional at their occupation. Yeah.

But at some point in time, bro, how many times they got,

this is twice in a matter of less than a month that you've missed time because of something that you can't control. Yeah, through three weeks, to be exact.

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, this ain't college.
This is not college. They're not going to babysit you, bro.

Man, hey, look.

He's getting a little grace too, Joe, because you know he is a third pick in the draft. But

he only gonna get the only, well, actually, third pick, he's gonna get a lot of grace.

Hey, man. When I came into the game.

Hey, when I came into the league, Uncle Ocho, I was so nervous and scared, bro. I tried to do everything the right way.
Yes. Try to be not on time, but way before time.
You know what I mean?

But because...

I came up and I was coached by the Nolan Richardson at the University of Arkansas, who was so old school. He didn't play none of that, bro.

Like, I was groomed for all this before i even got to the pros so when i did get somewhere and a coach was playing these mind games man i i done been through all that i've seen y'all i he was ready yeah hey look i'm still gonna show up i'm still gonna do my work i'm gonna still do what i have to do and i'm gonna play hard so i i i understood that at a young age man yeah i like it i like it may porter used to say boy you

that's the old school way yeah a man gives you an honest salary you give him an honest day's work you be on time you know what time you got to be at at work yeah oh i i i thought bro you come to work every day work started at eight o'clock what you mean you thought the day you started at 8 15.

i i just i just i just i'm just gonna be i'm just a sticker for time and maybe i i'm i'm too much of a stickler for time uh but my time is valuable it's too valuable i don't have a whole lot of it i definitely don't i'm on the other side You know what I'm saying?

I'm 57. I'm on the other side of y'all.
I ain't got a whole lot of time. And there's going to be a time, there's going to be a time that I'm going to wish I've had some time back.
Right.

And and i'm waiting on some jackleg that bull jiving around

nah yeah

all right ocho and joe it's time to play player fade presented by prize picks all right

you got it

the first one's for you joe anthony erwoods will have more than 40 points rebounds and assists so he'll have he'll have when you combine his points, rebounds, and assists, it'll be more than 40.

Who are they playing?

Pelicans. Pelicans.

Oh, yeah.

Points, rebounds. Assists, 40.
He for sure getting that. Hell, they probably can get that off a point.

He getting that.

All right. Derrick Queen,

he'll have at least four assists that play the Timberwolves.

I like, I like Big Queen. I'm giving him, yeah, I'm giving him them four assists.
Yeah. All right.
We're going for George Pickett, Ocho, 81 receiving yards. Absolutely.
Tomorrow? Yep. Hello.

Absolutely. Terry Arnano out.

Yep. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not sure if he was in, it would have made much of a difference, but I'm going more also.

Jameson Williams, more than 83.5 receiving yards. Yeah, absolutely.
Hell yeah.

They have no choice. You're going to get 84 yards against

your Cowboys?

Hey, Joe.

Is I'm in Ross St. Brown playing? Because you know, he looks like a bad thing.

It's a game time decision with his ankle.

Ooh.

That's going to determine a lot. Yeah, because St.
Brown is a Kermit coach.

Nah, he ain't in that.

I don't know. I don't know.

And the thing is, hey, Cowboys, Cowboys D-Line been playing really good. Oh, yeah.
Come on. Give us some love.
Give us some love.

Clowney and Williams, and you know, Diggy Zua, Clark, Quinny Williams. They're shaking it up on Kenny Clark.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're trying to make a little late, late surge, you know, going down the stretch.

I'm going to say under.

That's what I'm saying. Under

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Hey, hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, I got a joke.
You want to hear it? Let me hear it. What you got? Hey, Uncle, you ready? Yeah.
Chat, y'all ready?

Okay. Chat, stay ready.
All right. Hey,

what's a kidnapper's favorite shoe?

A kidnapper's favorite shoe? Yeah.

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Joe, what you think?

Kidnapper's favorite shoe.

I don't know what y'all here.

Y'all ready? Yeah.

White vans.

This man here.

Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

This man here.

Oh, this door here.

Aaron Jones, any Buffalo fans in the chat, you can get this worked. You know damn well Slay and Miss wanted to come back to Philly.
Waiver Wire

needs to go.

Darius Slay was released. He asked for and got his release by the Steelers.
He was picked up by the Buffalo Bills, Ocho.

He was hoping to get back, maybe potentially get back to Philly, but it's not going to happen. He's going to be in Buffalo.

Kemper Norwood Jr.,

I will always be here for you at Ocho. Love always.
Appreciate that, Kemper. Appreciate that.

Aaron owens 5-1-3 devontae adams has 117 touchdowns i think he got his shot to catch to and randy before he retires i agree playing it the way he's playing right now yeah he's not a right i don't know if jerry i don't know if jerry's 197

within reach

uh but hey he's got 14 right now i can see a scenario where he gets 20. Yeah, absolutely.

He's on the right team to do it, too. He's on the right team in the right system where they throw the ball in volume and the opportunities are going to always present themselves.

Hotwater Cornbread 50 say, Uncle, can we get a new Lakers in five? We got something brewing. We definitely got something brewing.
We got to find out who they going to get, who they going to get.

You know,

we got Luke on our side now, so we got something. We definitely got something brewing.
Quez 336, Trayfor Native here.

CP3 is a legend. Would love to see Houston pick him up.
Much love.

I don't think.

You think anybody else pick him up, Joe?

i think he'll get picked up but i don't think houston gonna pick him up

dr frank a l bellament that was a great interview with dr bryant sounds like she's giving you the same advice i did i just don't get it you've been hit by men who weigh over 200 pounds who could bench press a buw it but you won't let the right woman touch your heart

hey hold on hold on uh are we supposed to get we supposed to be getting married next year you got somebody in line up don't you yeah yeah i mean

Dr. Frank.
You know, I'm with you with you right now. I'm with you with you right.
Okay, yeah, we good, Doc. We good.
Because, you know, we having a dual wedding. Well, actually, triple.

Because, Joe, you say you finna come too, huh? Yeah, I'm gonna be the old Joe. No, I talk about be there, be part of it.

We could be the first people.

We can do the show. We can do nightcap during the wedding.
Yeah, we got to work out the logistics and all that.

We got to sit down at the roundtable by this one. Okay, okay, okay.
But I think that would be, we'd be the first ones to ever have, you know,

it sounds good, it sounds good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nice.

Uh, smoke face 333, he's not, he's six on the scoring list all time for the Clippers, number one in assists, and he can't say anything.

So, let me ask you a question: Can that help him being number six in the score uh scoring and number one in assists? Can that help them now?

That's why I keep telling y'all you got to update your resume,

yeah, you do, and that's crazy.

I, I, I I don't, I think you, I'm with you when you got to update your resume, but I think the work that he's put in, man, he should, unless it was him shouting and yelling at the coaches or the assistant coaches,

I think the man should have an input, though. He should be able to say something.
Like I said, he said it, and they say, okay, we don't want to hear it no more.

He did, Joe. That's probably what got him out of there.

You're probably right. You're probably right.
I think, and another thing, by him, you know, he spent the bulk of his years playing for the Clippers, man.

He probably, you know, he probably had a sense of comfortability in being there and being able to voice what he felt, you know, he's seen. So,

yeah, maybe they just weren't having it.

Gary Julian has him sat the bench for years.

His voice meant the most in the locker room. So he definitely blamed,

ignore him. You should know better.
Chris Paul made that franchise relevant.

Bro,

Haslam never left.

That was his sole role.

I mean, Chris Paul, how many teams have Chris Paul been on since he left the Clippers? Yeah.

He's been at OKC.

He's been at Houston. He's been at Phoenix.
He's been at San Antonio.

It's

from UD from Florida. And

UD

has been there.

That's the only franchise he's played for. He's from Florida.
Yeah. Yes.

Yeah.

Ma'am 7. Anyone with two eyes knows MJ is the GOAT.

Well,

anyone with two eyes?

I got three eyes. Two eyes.

I'm a Cyclops. I got three.
Good bronzing to me. JJ Carver, 80.

At this point, reach out to Elgato for sponsorship.

We definitely.

Lil' David 61, Giannis wanted to ship a chip for the team that he was drafted from. He can leave if he wants.
Brand ran to Cleveland because he could not win in Cleveland.

He ran to Miami because he couldn't win in Cleveland. Okay.
Did Braun win one in Cleveland? Didn't he come back and win one?

Yep. Braun never got traded.
Braun never asked to get traded.

Played his years out in Cleveland, went to Miami, played four years in Miami, went back to Cleveland, played four years in Cleveland.

LeBron never got traded, never asked to get traded. I don't have a problem with guys leaving and getting traded.

I get a problem with guys trying to throw shade when LeBron did something and they secretly turn around and do the exact same thing. That's the only problem I got.

I got a problem with Yannis wanting to leave. Hey, go where you feel you have a better chance to win.
Yeah.

But I remember a couple years ago, and y'all remember it too.

Babbin Patel, Yannis to the Warriors for

Kaminga,

Pozeski, Pazimski, excuse me, and two picks. No, that's not going to do it.

Give me Steph Curry and two L pick. Oh, man.
Come on now. Okay, then.
So no. Get to stepping.
That ain't happening.

Triple F Scop Saturday says, shout out to Elgato for keep showing up nightcap. Ocho, come on, man.
Get your money back. Also, pay Unc his money.
Yeah, do that, Ocho.

Robert Goldman's, Uncle You told Bun B you want to host Nightcap at the Houston Rodeo next year. Do you have the date? I want to plan flights in the hotel in advance.
Go Bears. I know.

We're going to reach out to

Bun. See what's going on.
We got a nightcap. That's going to be live.
Hold on. Y'all going to get out there.
Y'all going to bull ride and all that? No, no. I am.

We're going to host the show. Hey, I'm going to ride the Bulls and AA Joe.
I'm going to do everything. We're going to make that a part of the show.
That's gonna be an extension of the show.

I'm gonna go out there crazy, boy. Joe, but you know, Joe, you know, I ride bullshit.
I do all that, Joe.

Yeah, hey, they say if you ain't living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Hey, who you telling? Yeah, okay.
That's okay.

I'm only taking up the space that I occupy. I ain't occupying nobody else's space, so don't worry about what I'm doing over here.
Shell the Pope, who's winning a three-on-three to 11?

Nightcap, big three, uh, versus 520. Oh, we got them? They say what? They're talking about big three, us, me, you, Ocho, against 520.
We got them.

Hold on. Hey, a matter of fact, I'm, I'm, whoever just said that, why we're just thinking about that earlier today,

having all the podcasters, all the podcasts, 520, the pivot, uh,

busting with the boss. No, the pivot not beating us.
No. Hold on, but listen.
And hey,

just something competitive where we all, where we all have, we all compete in something. I mean, that would be so fun.
Like a podcast wards or something. I don't know.
I don't know. I'm just.

What are we playing?

I mean, they say three on three to 11. Three on three.

We good. Hey, we good.

Hey, them boys like that here, man. We good.
Hey, Joe will have all levels because I'm beating him. Man, we good.
You lied on the block, Joe. Yeah.
Oh, Joe. Can you shoot?

Yeah, I can shoot, Joe. Don't worry about it, Joe.
You got level in you. Hey, you got on the block.

We won't find out if he can shoot because I ain't passing him ish. Hey, don't worry about it.
Hey, I'm like Shea out there on the court now. That's what we're not gonna do.

All right, all right, all right. Hey, hey, Joe.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, we saw you. We saw you.
We saw you. We saw you.
No, you're not like Shay. I am like Shay.
Yeah, you like Shea. Bow wild daughter.

No, you not playing. You not playing.
We're not throwing you the ball. You will not get any shots.
Rebound. I'm a competitor.
You throw me the ball.

Hey, hey, hey, Ocho. As long as you're hustle, you ain't got two zero.
Hey, that's hey, that's what I did. I ain't listen, that wasn't my job.
We we had a score.

You said you said it was all about knowing your role, right? I understood my role when I was there. Oh, yeah, we good.
What we got to worry about is Gil. Gil, because he got Kenyon.

And uh, hey, I'm gonna lock Gil bad knee having all this stuff, man.

Gil ain't gonna shoot, Gil ain't gonna score shit.

KG and Paul Pierce. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know a truth. I got I got KG because I'm going to talk him about his game.
I got KG. I'm going to talk him about his game.

I'm going to have my damn ready to fight. Yeah, and congratulations to 520.
They got a Diderot's deal. They signed the shoe deal.
Nightcap next. But see, you see full frontals of them.

But you don't see what we got on. I got on flip-flops.
Actually, I got on Crocs. Yeah.

Oh, I got on socks. They dirty, though.

Mauricio Zepetta got 12,000 minutes listening to Nightcap on Spotify. Mauricio, thank you, bro.
Hey, I don't know, man. That means you're probably in the top one, two percent

because we've been seeing that a lot today. Man, we can't thank you guys enough.
We see you guys that that's got all these minutes. You're in the top 0-0-0.1%.

Hey, we appreciate that, bro. We appreciate that.

Can't thank you guys enough. Brandon Crowe, Ocho told me to catch you outside for my comment on Jerry not being able to catch.

Well, I'm still waiting. It's cold as

ish outside, so hurry.

Yeah, Ocho.

I bet you Cleveland, trade. Cleveland would trade y'all

Judy for T. Higgins.

Huh?

You want that trade?

You said he a number one. You say Higgins a number one.
So why not make that trade? Wait, what's trade?

You trade T. Higgins for Jerry Judy, Cleveland.

Yeah, we could do that. We could do that.

What you trying to do?

Cleveland was trying to trade you, Jared Judy, for T. Higgins.
I say, okay, come on.

T is going to want to go over there?

T gonna want to go to Cleveland? I'm just asking you, do you want to trade?

I'm just asking, do you think T is going to want to go over there to Cleveland based on what you're going to do? I think T is going to want to go get his money.

I don't know if T is going to be able to come back next year.

This is basically a one-year deal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah, yeah. The way it should be.

It's basically a a one-year deal.

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We can't thank you enough.
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Thank you.

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