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Speaker 4 the Lakers snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. No, let me take that back.
They snatched defeat from the jaws jaws of victory. Had a lead with 12 seconds, they're up five.

Speaker 4 LeBron gamble, and he's been gambling all night, and he's been getting away with it because they missed. In that situation, you don't gamble.
The only thing that can hurt you is a three.

Speaker 4 He gave up a three.

Speaker 4 Now you're up two.

Speaker 4 Okay, he gave a lazy pass to Austin Reeves.

Speaker 4 Now you're down.

Speaker 4 One with six seconds. Austin Reeves makes a fantastic play.
And guess what? Josh Giddy from half court knocks the ball. This one's on LeBron.
Yeah. This one's on LeBron.
He has not played well.

Speaker 4 Now he got the tip in last night and it bailed him out because he didn't play well against the magic. He was 03 from the three.
Last night, 03 from the three. Tonight, 07 from the three.

Speaker 4 He was nine of 20. No, he was eight of 20 from the floor.
Go check what he was last night, like 4-14. This won't get it done.

Speaker 4 This was a game. They had the game, Ocho.
Yeah. 12 seconds, you're up five.
Why would you gamble in that situation?

Speaker 4 Why?

Speaker 4 And then why would you give a lazy pass in that situation? Right.

Speaker 4 Up under your own goal?

Speaker 4 Come on, man.

Speaker 4 I just don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 I don't know what's going on. But he has not played well the last three games, the tip end notwithstanding.
But you go back and look at it. It is what it is.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying anything that anybody that has watched the Lakers over the last three games is not thinking or not thinking, but unfortunately, a lot of them don't have microphones, so they can't say it.

Speaker 4 But what I'm saying is what you've been thinking. This one is on LeBron: 44 effing points in the fourth quarter.
Normally, Ocho, it's the third quarter. Quarter, yeah.

Speaker 4 Tonight, they held the

Speaker 4 Bulls to 17 points in the third quarter. Only to give up 44 in the fourth.

Speaker 4 I try to look at Josh Giddy

Speaker 4 and worker guarded LeBron.

Speaker 4 Josh Giddy, again, had another triple double. The other time they played him, he almost had a quadruple double.
He was two steals away from a quad double.

Speaker 4 Tonight he had a triple double, and he guarded LeBron. Work to guarded LeBron.
And LeBron just was perfectly content to stand his ass in the corner. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, Lucy, you do it. Okay, Oster Reeves, you do it.
Yeah. That's not good enough.

Speaker 4 But listen,

Speaker 4 that's the point of having to supporting gas. That's the point of having to support a cast to bail you out of situations like this.

Speaker 4 They've been bailing him out the last three games. But that's only three games, man.

Speaker 4 That's only three games. Think about it.
Think about it. He's been out for two weeks.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, I understand. But

Speaker 4 he's been out for two weeks. He's also coming back on for injury.
So are we understanding me? He's in the game. We're not doing that.
We're not doing that.

Speaker 4 I see 23 with Bron James on the back. If he's not healthy enough, sit down.

Speaker 4 What we're not going to do is make excuses. We don't do that here.
Right.

Speaker 4 All right. Well, listen, yeah, he hasn't played well the past three games.
He hasn't.

Speaker 4 They had it in the bag tonight. Obviously, the game of basketball being a game of runs.
It was up and down. I thought they had the game sealed.
I'm not even going to lie to you.

Speaker 4 I thought they had it sealed towards the end.

Speaker 4 It was up five with 12 12 seconds with exactly exactly but i'm just trying to figure why would lebron in that situation gamble why would he gamble and leave a three-point shot i mean he left the guy open that's a that's a shooter round three wagon was wide open why in that situation

Speaker 4 that's what i don't get lebron has too much basketball iq to know in that situation oh joe it's kind of like a corner Why would you gamble in a situation like that when you're up four?

Speaker 4 Why would you try to take the slant away and the dude runs a slogo

Speaker 4 in this situation. Brian, you don't need to gamble, make him run time.
If the guy hit a tough shot, so be it. But you can't give him a wide open three.

Speaker 4 You can't be lazy on the bounce path under your own goal. Giddy gets it, fires it back to Kobe White.
He nails a three. What was a five-point lead with 12 seconds?

Speaker 4 You find yourself down one with six seconds. Yeah

Speaker 4 every starter for the Laker was minus,

Speaker 4 Had a negative plus minus. Phineas Smith, minus 10.
LeBron, minus 10. Jackson Hayes, minus 9.
Luca, minus 1. Reeves, minus 10.

Speaker 4 Everybody that came off the bench that played four guys was plus. Plus nine, Vanderbilt, plus 13, Benson, plus three, Godwin, plus five, Connect, even though he didn't score a point.

Speaker 4 Another thing, guys,

Speaker 4 you turned the ball over. It's Phineas Smith.
I know you're upset because

Speaker 4 who caught you? Working caught you with an elbow. Yeah.
But if they didn't call it, you can't push the man in the back. They're going to call a foul.

Speaker 4 Every time. Godwin.

Speaker 4 You can't shove the guy. Even though he shoved you, they didn't call a foul.
You shove him in the open court. They're going to call it.
Every time.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 ain't nobody going to fight. Why you shoving?

Speaker 4 Y'all not going to square up. All you're doing is giving the ball right back to him after they got a field goal.
Right.

Speaker 4 I mean, that was. Hey, i i listen i i've only been around jj a little bit at espn but i know he losing his mind oh yeah

Speaker 4 wait i you might be losing your you might be losing your mind a little bit more than jj no

Speaker 4 i promise you i'm not because it's it's it's the mistakes like that but see he's not going to tell lebron what he needs to tell lebron in that situation lebron you can't do that you can't gamble and then turn the ball lower

Speaker 4 and then nobody picked up giddy

Speaker 4 so you're gonna let him get so you're gonna let the guy How many times, Ocho, do you think guys practice half-court shots? Right.

Speaker 4 You know what? I don't think they don't practice no damn half-court shots. They play around doing them.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying. They'll be paying money all the time.

Speaker 4 I promise you, if Steph Curry is shooting the ball from the tunnel,

Speaker 4 Luca, if all these guys

Speaker 4 that could potentially take a shot at the end of the game

Speaker 4 is practice, if

Speaker 4 horse and the ride with that shot.

Speaker 4 That's not as that's not as because how many times have we seen him make that shot this year?

Speaker 4 So ain't nobody gonna make the guy pick the ball up. You're gonna wait till we get to half court and then try to jump.
It's too late. He's already gotten to a shooting motion.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And listen, that game was good.

Speaker 4 I know you're upset about your Lakers losing, but that game was a roller coaster towards the end. The Lakers had it.
They went up.

Speaker 4 You give up 44 points

Speaker 4 in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 4 And listen,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 That I mean, defense has been their issue, that's been their Achilles heel the past the past three games. Not only defense, but getting beaten transition, being lazy.

Speaker 4 You know, I'm not, yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm not no, I'm not Doris Burke or George Sedano, you know, to be sitting here talking, talking like I know, I know the game of basketball like that, but I know I got 20-20 vision, I can see how many threes they give up in the fourth quarter, Ash,

Speaker 4 they had to give up like seven threes, and a lot of them was uncontested.

Speaker 4 Not closing out.

Speaker 4 Hey, Josh, Josh Giddy, Josh Giddy, nice, bro.

Speaker 4 They traded Josh Giddy for Alex Caruso.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 everybody. Let me ask you: everybody's nice against the Lakers.

Speaker 4 Bulls were 11 for 14 from three in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 what are the chances?

Speaker 4 I'm going to say it like that. What are the chances to go 11 for 14 in the quarter where it matters most? A lot of teams can go 11 for 14.

Speaker 4 If you let them shoot around threes, where they just go and get into their shooting motion. Where it's not contested? Yes.
Oh.

Speaker 4 That's why I'm saying you don't realize how skilled these guys are. Go sit around the game and watch them shoot the ball.

Speaker 4 And then you're like, damn, you're more surprised that they miss than when they make it, make it right because you see them guys that I'm talking about, they hitting seven, eight, nine, ten shots in a row from the three.

Speaker 4 I mean, what do you expect to happen?

Speaker 4 You turn the ball over, you get lazy, you gamble, you take unnecessary risks that you right, you don't even need to take that risk.

Speaker 4 I don't even know why Bron would even put himself in that situation, right?

Speaker 4 Nah.

Speaker 4 And then, you know,

Speaker 4 they put the ball in Luca hand three shots in a row. He missed a shot.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Missed a shot in the fourth when they could have got some separation.

Speaker 4 And then they come down and just, hey, just like all of a sudden, like, okay, we got the game one and just stop playing.

Speaker 4 They probably thought they had it one. If you look at everybody's body language,

Speaker 4 we think we got the game one

Speaker 4 i mean but oh you know you're gonna have games like this no no no no no no no not like this you don't think like this no

Speaker 4 with lebron james and luca darts on the court you should not have two high iq basketball players like that lebron knows better why would you gamble that's what i need i i just i hope a reporter asked him lebron in that situation that you gave up the three ball in the corner to williams why would you gamble on that situation

Speaker 4 See, do your oh, Joe. If I get beat doing my job, I was doing my job.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to get beat doing someone else's job because everybody's looking at you. Now, ain't nobody gonna say it, but everybody's like, Well, damn, Brian,

Speaker 4 had that been somebody else, you like, huh?

Speaker 4 Stop.

Speaker 4 Look,

Speaker 4 at some time,

Speaker 4 and Luca's got to stop this damn complaining, bro.

Speaker 4 It's It's annoying if F,

Speaker 4 hold to the rest.

Speaker 4 Every time, Luca, every time you're not getting filed, right? You're not.

Speaker 4 And you got to get back. Everybody, LeBron, you got to get back.
They're sitting there talking about he filed me.

Speaker 4 Well, they're not going to blow the whistle once the guy got the ball and heading up the court. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now they're playing five on four. They're playing five on four.

Speaker 4 They get a three in transition or they get an easy basket.

Speaker 4 Come on, guys. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't.
Listen,

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 you're going to get games like this. You say it shouldn't happen with two players on the court, like LeBron and Luca.
Obviously, mistakes happen.

Speaker 4 The game of basketball is, I don't know if you can't really compare it to football in a sense.

Speaker 4 Maybe for for T, you say, don't make no excuses. I'm not going to make no excuses.

Speaker 4 But if you have a game like this, you have players like LeBron and Luca playing this bad on a road game, a stretch of road games

Speaker 4 with a lack of effort on defense. You see it.
Be the transition.

Speaker 4 With the layout.

Speaker 4 It got to be something wrong. I'm not going to make no excuses, but it has to be something wrong.
Pocho,

Speaker 4 what good? if you complained and hey they run a pick and you jumping up and down talking about he picked me ref He picked me, Ref, and Chase got the ball running down the field.

Speaker 4 He ain't finna throw the flag now

Speaker 4 if he didn't throw the ball, if he didn't throw the flag at the point of contact. He's not gonna throw it once the guy got the ball and running down the damn field.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 But you gotta understand, this is something Lucas has been doing since he was in Dallas.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 But he doesn't.

Speaker 4 He, I hope that at some point in time, he's gonna have to realize, bro, you're putting our team at a disadvantage because while you're standing there complaining or you're sitting on the floor, they're on a five-on-floor transition against it.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Now, we don't want to give up a layup, but now we're giving up, now we're giving up transition guys and just walking into a wide open three.

Speaker 4 Understandable. That's that's something it has not happened

Speaker 4 often,

Speaker 4 but it's happened this week on LeBron.

Speaker 4 And he knowing him, he's going to say it. That's on me.
I gambled, gave up a three. I got lazy with a pass,

Speaker 4 gave up up another three. And

Speaker 4 he should have met before Josh Giddy. You got to make him pick the ball up.
You got to make, you don't let him go. Somebody go straight.
Once he gets into his shooting motion,

Speaker 4 it's over. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They got Kobe White out there looking like Kobe Bryant

Speaker 4 for the second game in a row against the Lakers. Hell, he played great against the Nuggets too the other night.
He was sensational against the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 But LeBron, I mean, LeBron had more field goal attempts than points.

Speaker 4 Last night, he was 4-14. He had 14 points.

Speaker 4 The other night against

Speaker 4 who they play, Orlando. Didn't they play Orlando? Same thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 This is an embarrassing loss.

Speaker 4 This says this.

Speaker 4 No, seriously. This reminds you of the Orlando Magic loss.
They had Orlando beat the whole game. They horse jived around and then they let Franz Wagner hit a three at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 0.1 second on the clock. Boom.
You lose. Game over.
Same thing.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 you could have been like maybe in the third spot. You're going to be kicking yourself in the ass when you find yourself in the sixth.

Speaker 4 You mess around and slide all the way to the seventh and you're in the play in. And you should be getting rest.
And now you're one way, one

Speaker 4 or two losses of weight from being out of the playoffs. Playoffs, yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you got, I mean, Austin Reeves was 10 of 17.

Speaker 4 You got Jackson Hayes with 9 of 11.

Speaker 4 Vanderbilt was 3 or 4. Gabe Vincent was 3 of 6.

Speaker 4 Godwin was 3 or 4. The bench played.
Look, the bench came in and gave you 16, 23 points.

Speaker 4 23.

Speaker 4 Cindy Smith didn't give you much. He gave you three.

Speaker 4 LeBron

Speaker 4 assisted the ball well. He had four turnovers.
That last turnover really hurt. Hurt because

Speaker 4 you gave up a three. Well, I mean, that last sequence, that last 12 seconds, that's a lot of fun.
It was bad.

Speaker 4 Listen, as bad as it was for the Lakers, if you're a fan of the game of basketball,

Speaker 4 it was a thing to see. Oh, it was a great game.
I mean,

Speaker 4 if you like basketball, Ocho. Yeah,

Speaker 4 it was a thing to see. Now, stuff like that is what it gets you coming back to watch more.
Even though the ending won't be as exciting as that was,

Speaker 4 that was nice. It was a great ending.

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Speaker 4 and be it look

Speaker 4 at some point in time being mad ain't gonna change nothing no absolutely not the trade has happened it's over you have to get over it you have to get over it i don't know

Speaker 4 It doesn't make any sense to be mad at anybody at this point in time. You can still vent about Nico Harrison, saying he shouldn't have happened.

Speaker 4 But y'all think Nico would have made this trade without the owner's blessings?

Speaker 4 Yeah, absolutely not. Do y'all understand how this works? It's just like the first-round draft pick or you paying somebody.
You think Mike Brown did not sign off on giving Chase this money.

Speaker 4 You don't think Mike Brown signed off and giving Joe Burrow this money.

Speaker 4 When it goes to that level, oh, that thing going to the top of the flagpole. Yeah.
Not the middle. Yeah.
This is not a GM. This is not a football operations.
This is Mike Brown saying, okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, listen, there's a pecking order and everything, huh? Yes.

Speaker 4 And everything before decisions are made, unless you're the top dog and the one who cuts the checks and your name is on the check,

Speaker 4 there's always a pecking order. And everything goes as follows before decisions are made, especially in poor ones like that.
Yes.

Speaker 4 But, I mean, it's, look, Cuban has made it, but Cuban said he, he said he would have never done the deal. He also said that, look, and

Speaker 4 go back and listen to the interview. Uh, what he was talking, I sat down with him this summer, and he's like, Look, he's gonna look to move the team because he don't, his kids, he don't want them.

Speaker 4 That was his goal, that was what he wanted. He don't want his kids to be under that kind of pressure.

Speaker 4 And he said, if you notice, venture capitalists, big businesses that have other things, they can build casinos and they can increase other streams of revenue.

Speaker 4 And I've lost money to

Speaker 4 I've made money two of the 23 years in which I've owned the team, lost hundreds of millions yeah

Speaker 4 it's not how much you make

Speaker 4 how much you can keep

Speaker 4 it's when the uncle sam comes and

Speaker 4 or in this situation where he's losing money they're like but you a billionaire

Speaker 4 what billionaire you know like losing money they're trying to make it yeah they tried to lose it

Speaker 4 So I don't, I don't, I don't get why they're upset at Cuban.

Speaker 4 He's not the majority owner.

Speaker 4 I don't know why you're mad at Nico because he had the owners, Dumont. I think that's his, he's the son-in-law of the

Speaker 4 Adelson's family.

Speaker 4 The wife, Sheldon, rest your soul, Mr. Adelson, he died, left it to his wife.
I think Dumont is the son-in-law, and he's running it. But they purchased the majority of share from Cuban.
Right.

Speaker 4 This deal with Luca,

Speaker 4 you think think if somebody moves, I'm trying to think who? Giannis.

Speaker 4 You think they can move Giannis without the owner's blessing?

Speaker 4 You think they can move Admin without the owner's blessing?

Speaker 4 They trade the top five player in the NBA.

Speaker 4 And then tell him though.

Speaker 4 He had no idea.

Speaker 4 Most of the time, players of that magnitude, if I'm not mistaken, know management and those that sit in the higher seats and high positions, they let you know

Speaker 4 maybe not publicly but behind closed doors listen we're thinking of moving you on or they let your agent know we thinking of moving on without you yes

Speaker 4 we looking and go we thinking about going in a different direction you're right but what happens all the time but this is what this is one of the few times where it out the blue it even surprised him hell that surprise me look

Speaker 4 There couldn't have been that many people that have that known because it didn't get out.

Speaker 4 You're not going to tell five, six, seven, eight people something. It did not get out.
Get out. Yeah.
Especially like that, though. Something like that of that magnitude.

Speaker 4 You know, you know, folk can't hold no water, man.

Speaker 4 No, of course not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, whoever owns the majority,

Speaker 4 the controlling interest.

Speaker 4 So that's just like, well, what's going to, I mean, this is one thing. It's like the Cowboys.
Everybody knows. Don't nobody blame anybody else for anything but Jerry because Jerry controls everything.

Speaker 4 One person.

Speaker 4 James Harden spoke to Overtime. about his career and had this to say.
Let's take a listen, nocho. Yes, sir.

Speaker 27 You're 35 years old but you're still balling out what is your secret to longevity the work i don't feel like i get i get enough credit for the work that i put in you know people want to talk about everything else that they honestly do not know about but in honesty the work is being put in and if the work isn't being put in then these opportunities wouldn't be happening for me so like i really love the game of basketball you know it's gotten me to a point to where i am today that's priority number one and now i'm getting older so like the proper like eating and and sleeping and the recovery aspect is very very important uh which i've been on top of like anything in life, you put the work in and results is bound to happen.

Speaker 27 And sometimes you put the work in and I got bad, I have bad games, but more times than not, good things are going to happen.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, I tell people this all the time. Yeah, some people say, well, Shannon, hard work.
I said, no. I said, hard work doesn't guarantee you anything.

Speaker 4 I said, but without it, you don't have a chance. Nah, at all.

Speaker 4 And he mentioned it. As he's got older, he had to work harder.
He had to change some things. He changed his eating habits.
Habits. He He probably doesn't go out as much.

Speaker 4 Or if he does go out, he doesn't stay out as long.

Speaker 4 Things have to change. You're not the same

Speaker 4 as we start to age.

Speaker 4 You might think it,

Speaker 4 but the body.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 you can't see it. You know, especially elite athletes like the James Harden.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You don't see it in your game.

Speaker 4 You never see it in the game. You think everything is still the same.

Speaker 4 But everything changes as you get older. I'm sure his numbers don't look the same as they once did when he was in his prime.
No, because he doesn't have the ball like he once did, he's not reliant.

Speaker 4 Because you got to realize, he went to he when he went to uh uh

Speaker 4 jersey, Brooklyn, he got Katie and Kyrie. Oh, that's too much.
Okay, he goes, he goes to uh uh uh uh Philly and he has Dylan B.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh. So now he's not now he has uh uh Kawhi, he had PG,

Speaker 4 yeah, now he he has

Speaker 4 Kawhi and Norman Powell. So he's not asked to do what he once did, where he was the entirety of the show in Houston.

Speaker 4 He's 11-time all-star, three-time scoring champ, two-time assist champ, seven-time all-NBA. He was an all-rookie selection.

Speaker 4 He was a 2011, 2012 sixth man of the year, a 2017, 18 MVP, and a member of the 75th anniversary team. Yeah.
Impecca resume.

Speaker 4 Quick question.

Speaker 4 Despite James Harden, based on the resume and all the accolades that you just named,

Speaker 4 again, I think to me, one of the greatest scorers of all time is

Speaker 4 Hall of Famer. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Outright.

Speaker 4 Regardless of having the rings.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's an all-time great.

Speaker 4 That's why he's a member. He's not a member of the 75th anniversary team for no reason.
I mean, you look at the numbers, what he's put up. He's a scoring champ.
He's an all-LNBA selection.

Speaker 4 He's an all-star. right two-time assist champ yeah he's very deserving he's one of the top 75 players regardless if he has a championship okay

Speaker 4 but i think like in the situation you know look

Speaker 4 people try to say it's just rings it's not just rings because if it was just rings the celtics would be littered with goat players Right. Because they have players that have more rings than anybody.

Speaker 4 Russell has more than anybody. They have another three guys that have 10 rings.
Several other guys that have eight or nine rings.

Speaker 4 Nobody ever brings those guys up into the GOAT conversation because it's other things also.

Speaker 4 All NBA selections, all-star selections,

Speaker 4 MVPs, rings. Yes, when it comes into, when you, because, oh, as you go up higher, now

Speaker 4 it's.

Speaker 4 More things that we got to pick from. Right.
So now as we go up, it's like, damn. Okay.
Rings, okay, we even.

Speaker 4 All NBA selections, we even. All-stars, we even.
Defensive player of the years,

Speaker 4 things like that, assist scoring, all of that factors in. So it's not just one thing.
It's not just rings. If you just want to make it about that,

Speaker 4 well, it's Russell.

Speaker 4 Russell has more rings, just as many MVPs, but not.

Speaker 4 Kareem has six regular season MVPs, and people don't put him in the goal. I think he's probably the guy that gets undervalued, but all bigs get undervalued.

Speaker 4 Uh, if you go back and look at Wilt has more 50-point games than the next six guys combined,

Speaker 4 damn, yes,

Speaker 4 that's not me. Will got records ain't nobody gonna ever break.
They're talking about what record is unbreakable, Wilts. Ain't nobody gonna average 50 and 25 for a seasonal show.

Speaker 4 Ain't nobody, that ain't happening.

Speaker 4 He averaged 27 rebounds for an entire season. He once played 48.2 minutes for an entire season.
So he played the entirety of the game.

Speaker 4 Something's not going to be broken. But James Hardnotte, you know, I don't think he gets enough credit

Speaker 4 because we look at his body and it's not, he's not sculpted. He don't got shoulder like the white.
He ain't aesthetically like LeBron.

Speaker 4 But for him to play at the level that he's playing at for an extended period of time, he has to be doing something.

Speaker 4 Consistently at that.

Speaker 4 Consistently.

Speaker 4 So.

Speaker 4 What we got? Brock Purdy says he's about 40% of the time he's not able to see his intended target on throws downfield due to the size of the alignment in front of him.

Speaker 4 He talked about how important it is knowing coverages scheme and knowing where his receivers are supposed to be. How common is this? Is this typical for quarterbacks who are very tall? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, quarterbacks all the time. Huh? All the time.
Drew Brees. Yeah.
Make it making it. Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson. You have to throw between the linemen.
You have to try to throw.

Speaker 4 That's why they call it throwing lanes. Yeah.
And

Speaker 4 you have to anticipate as well. Yes.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's been, remember, Doug Fluty. Yeah, when Doug Fluty plays.
Yes.

Speaker 4 What you think Kyler Murray sees?

Speaker 4 Man, what? That's,

Speaker 4 I couldn't, I couldn't think of it. Kyler Murray.
Hell, half the time, he probably looking at a lime with ass.

Speaker 4 Who else is short? Who else? I know.

Speaker 4 Kyler Murray. Kyler

Speaker 4 Drew was short. Baker Mayfield is short.

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson. Yeah, I said Russ.

Speaker 4 Trying to think who else. Tua.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Tua is not

Speaker 4 that tall.

Speaker 4 Bryce Bryce Young?

Speaker 4 Okay, Bryce. Bryce is short.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 Bryce is in that boat, too.

Speaker 4 But you know what, Ojo? I'd say that if I got 50 million. Yeah, I wouldn't have said it before.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't have said it before. But anyway, listen, the fact that he did say it, he's still in a good position anyway, because he's already put in the small sample size of work.

Speaker 4 Well, he's going to get his money anyway, regardless. But the fact that you've been able to do what you've done,

Speaker 4 even though you couldn't see 40% of the time,

Speaker 4 I mean, it can work in your favor too. Yeah,

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, look,

Speaker 4 uh, Mike Vick wasn't the tallest, Johnny Mamzelle wasn't tall, young, no, not at all, not at all. It's how tall is Hurts, it's not like Hurts 6'5.

Speaker 4 He's probably average height, probably 6'1.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Jaden got Jaden got height on him, though. How tall is that Jaden Daniels?

Speaker 4 Jaden tall. you about 6'3 yeah but ocho but he's 6'1 his offensive line is 6'6.
yeah see it over

Speaker 4 yeah you're right but you know one once you drop back everybody gonna beat josh allen yeah everybody you gotta think

Speaker 4 you gotta think also in today's game especially with the offense that that that we're seeing and we're seeing now most of the time quarterbacks in the gun yeah for sure

Speaker 4 Most of the time, quarterbacks in the gun. So you're already at an advantage if you are a short quarterback anyway.

Speaker 4 Then now it all comes down to you processing and having anticipatory skills and when to get the ball out and hoping your receivers get open,

Speaker 4 Ocho, Packer Safety Xavier McKinney started discourse today when he tweeted, Nepotism is always okay and justified, unless it's a black man doing it. Then it's a problem.

Speaker 4 You mofos are corrupt and brainwashed.

Speaker 4 And for all you black folks in the media, stop. We can't say that word, Ocho, but it's C-O-O-N-I-N-G because

Speaker 4 they'll flag us. So they say that's a racial slur now.
Yes, sir. So

Speaker 4 I've had to learn the hard way. Right, right, right.
But y'all know it's the trash pandem. So he said, y'all stop trash pandemic

Speaker 4 and being puppets. You ain't tired yet.
Damn. Ocho, you agree? Yeah, come on.
We talked about this before. We talked about this before.

Speaker 4 It's always a problem. It's always a problem when we do it.

Speaker 4 When we put those that are part of our family tree in positions, and we're in a position of power, and we allow them to

Speaker 4 take advantage of, yeah, yeah. I mean, it happens all the time.
It happens all the time with

Speaker 4 our brethren. But anytime we do it, it's always an issue and it's brought to the forefront on why we do it.

Speaker 4 Because Andy Reed put his sons on the coaching staff, Bill Belichick put his sons on the coaching staff. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ain't no problem.

Speaker 4 This has been going on for a very long time. It happens all the time.
Not in just sports, but in the corporate world as well. And as well.

Speaker 4 It happens all the time. Hell yes.

Speaker 4 But we're the only ones that were not supposed to do it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's frowned upon.

Speaker 4 It's frowned upon. It is.
It is. And listen, we just call a spade a spade.

Speaker 4 A lot of times we be doing it, though.

Speaker 4 They don't really talk about no nepotism. They're like, hey, I'll get in position.
I'm A.

Speaker 4 and we see it all the time. People get in position, they hire their homeboys all the time.

Speaker 4 Qualifications don't matter, but we understand, Ocho, we're not allowed that liberty. We don't get that freedom.

Speaker 4 We can't be putting no homeboys in there that ain't qualified. Now, if my homeboys qualified, we can do it in there.
Oh, the qualifications.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 you got to be careful. You can't just hire your homeboy now.

Speaker 4 Homeboy gets comfortable, think they can get away with doing certain things.

Speaker 4 Because you're cool. No, it ain't about being cool now.
No, we still

Speaker 4 got work to do now.

Speaker 4 Man, the Washington Wizards need their butt kick.

Speaker 4 Indian has scored 162 points.

Speaker 4 In real life? A video game? Yeah. Against

Speaker 4 the Wizards.

Speaker 4 That's embarrassing. 162.
Now, there was once upon a time in the 80s, Ocho, it was customary. You see 150, 140 games.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think the NBA record, somebody scored, I think 183 to 181 was the final triple overtime.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 this was a real game, and we're not talking about the all-star break. No.
We're not talking about the all-star game. A real game, you let somebody score 162? 162 to 109.

Speaker 4 I bet they must have shot. They must have shot threes the whole game.
Nah, Washington was terrible the whole game.

Speaker 4 Let's see. The Warsaw route were the most points in NBA franchise history and the most allowed.

Speaker 4 They had nine players in double figures.

Speaker 4 The Pacers did.

Speaker 4 Let's see, pull up the box score right quick so we can get this.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. And they did this on the road.
They weren't even at home. Ah.

Speaker 4 And no player played more than 25 minutes. That's Aliburton had 29 and 25 minutes.
Miles Turner had 17 and 21 minutes. Neese Smith had 11 and 19.
Siakam had 13 and 23.

Speaker 4 And then you just, guys just went to work.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. That's embarrassing.

Speaker 4 They shot 64% from the floor, 57% from the three. There was 27 of 47.

Speaker 4 17 of 19 from the floor. I mean, from the free throw line.

Speaker 4 But yeah, McKinney's right.

Speaker 4 Yeah. jordan the black dot uh

Speaker 4 i mean i wish my kids wanted to do something in here that i could like look you start you know

Speaker 4 you ain't got you ain't got to you know send no resume in because you right you know the ceo

Speaker 4 tell them who you're who you reference

Speaker 4 listen Hey, listen, when your kids come in, are they going to want to do the work? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Understanding how serious you are about club shape,

Speaker 4 about nightcap. They know.
And understand,

Speaker 4 hey,

Speaker 4 this train got to keep rolling now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I think you got you got to be weary. You got to be wary.
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Speaker 4 I'm tough. I mean, I'm probably tougher on my kids than I would be somebody else.
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Right.

Speaker 4 What did Caleb say? I don't want to work for my daddy. He yelled too much.

Speaker 4 Oh, I am. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and make no mistake. I'm tough on everybody.

Speaker 4 Hell, if I'm tough on my damn self, what I'm supposed to be easy on everybody else? I should be easier on myself. Uh-huh.

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Speaker 4 Russell Wilson is coming to the Giants with the expectation that he will be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 In his presser, Ocho, he said, Yeah, I expect to be the starting to come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day. I think this team is really looking for somebody to lead them every way.

Speaker 4 Is this a match made in heaven for the Giants, Ocho? I mean,

Speaker 4 remember now, Ocho, before you go, come on,

Speaker 4 they signed, they gave uh Jameis two years, eight million. Rough basically is a one-year deal for 10 and a half million.
That's guaranteed. He can make up to 21 million, but he got to win like what?

Speaker 4 He gets X amount of dollars per win or something like that.

Speaker 4 Right. But anyway, do you see them taking a quarterback

Speaker 4 with the third? I think the third pick, you know, the third were they picking up?

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 4 listen,

Speaker 4 I don't care if they had 30. Third.
Go ahead, Ocho.

Speaker 4 I don't care if they had 37 quarterbacks

Speaker 4 on their roster right now. They taking a quarterback come draft time because there's still no quarterback of the future.

Speaker 4 Now, whoever they draft at quarterback, they have somebody they can learn from and learn behind

Speaker 4 for a year before they're put into that offense. And depending on how the play from whoever started, whether it's DeVito, whether it's James Winston, whether it was the reality.
Man, DeVit, stop.

Speaker 4 DeVito ain't starting. You know damn well DeVito is starting.
Stop.

Speaker 4 I'm just calling the names of the people on the roster, baby. Let me, let me, let me, let me get my point across.

Speaker 4 But either way, it could be, yeah, it could be, it could be Shadora, could be Cam Ward. Okay.
They might even surprise us and pick somebody else. You never know.
You know how the draft works. Right.

Speaker 4 And sometimes when it comes to their decision making. But either way, I think Russell Wilson is probably going to be the starter.

Speaker 4 Everywhere he goes, he's the ultimate, not only competitor, but his approach to the game and willingness to learn the offense and obviously be a team player and all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 He says all the right stuff.

Speaker 4 So there's a reason why the Giants wanted to extend that grace to him, allow him another year. And I'm excited.

Speaker 4 I mean, Russell Wilson, Malik Neighbors, they still need to do something with the F and offensive line. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And get another, no disrespect to Brother Slayton. Very nice receiver.
You got Malik Neighbors, but you still need another playmaker.

Speaker 4 Didn't they bring Slayton back? Didn't he back? Yeah, he's back. That's what I just said.
They still need another playmaker.

Speaker 4 They just play Slayt, but they still need another playmaker outside of them, you know, to go with Malik Neighbors and Slayton. That offensive line, boy, it's abysmal.
It's abysmal. Because so

Speaker 4 you're going to have Russell running for his life.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Outside of that, there's so many things they need to address offensively

Speaker 4 to actually be competitive week in and week out, especially when

Speaker 4 you're bringing in a quarterback. You're definitely drafting a quarterback.

Speaker 4 I don't know who it's going to be, whether it be Shador, whether it be Cam Ward, or maybe surprise to pick somebody else you might like that you've seen.

Speaker 4 But But the other issues that need to be fixed,

Speaker 4 and I and to me, I will start with that offensive line. If I told you five years ago, this would

Speaker 4 rustle Wilson's career,

Speaker 4 would you have believed it

Speaker 4 bouncing around like this, Ocho?

Speaker 4 You wouldn't have. No, no, probably not.
Not, probably not. Because even

Speaker 4 me,

Speaker 4 as a lover and

Speaker 4 enthusiast of the game and understanding of it, the trajectory in which he was going was always, to me, he was viewed as the top, the cream of the top,

Speaker 4 one of the elites.

Speaker 4 Because it was consistent year in and year out. Yeah.
Year in and year out. He was consistent.
He was in a place of comfortability where he knew a system.

Speaker 4 And you just go in there and do what you need to do year in in and year out.

Speaker 4 Now, on the back end, things change. I wish P.
Carroll hadn't made that call. You already know what I'm talking about.
Yeah. And you would have had two rings under your belt.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I think, man, Seattle saw something.

Speaker 4 They saw Slippage, OJo.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. He's been on this third team in 33 years.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That ain't no way around it. Ain't no, let's not sugarcoat it.
He's his third team in three years.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 It's tough

Speaker 4 because, you know, you had, you learned the Broncos system. You were there for two years.
You go to Pittsburgh, you learn that system. It's harder and harder to keep.
I mean, you think about it.

Speaker 4 It gets harder and harder to learn a system.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Even though it's, because look at Baker, once he got to what, look, okay, he went to Carolina. He was in the Rams.

Speaker 4 Well, we everybody knew he wasn't going to stay very long with the Rams for the fact they had Matthew Stafford. But look at him now.
He's thriving.

Speaker 4 But he got great complimentary players around him. He got Mike Evans.
He got Chris Godwin. He got

Speaker 4 a nice running back. They did a great job.
Bucket Irving. They did a great job in the draft with the running back position.
Right.

Speaker 4 Mike Evans has missed the consistency.

Speaker 4 Chris Godwin went down, but hey, he's back. Back.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's why I think your supporting cast matters, huh? That's why I say it all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Listen, for a quarterback, for a quarterback that may be on the decline, where he's not the same as he once was,

Speaker 4 if you're a quarterback and you're not in the position and you need those players around you to make you better.

Speaker 4 When you're not the caliber player anymore to make them actually better, you have to be in the right system. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The right supporting cast, and everything will take off.

Speaker 4 It's hard to hide your weaknesses when those around you ain't that good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very hard to hide your weaknesses. Yeah, because I'm going to make you play to it.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Hey.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But see, that's what makes the Eagles so difficult.
Yeah. If you take Saquon away, you got two guys outside that can make you pay.
You got to deal with it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So now, what do they do? It's like, we just go play zone because you can't run the football. With what you got behind you, Patrick Mahomes, you can't run the football.
Right.

Speaker 4 So now they say, you know what? Hey,

Speaker 4 Kansas City say, no, say, quad, we ain't going to let you do. We ain't going to let you run us out of the building.
Jamaris says, okay, I'll throw you out. I got the building.

Speaker 4 Whole list.

Speaker 4 That's the thing.

Speaker 4 It's not that complicated. It's really not.
You try to take away what the strength is. And if somebody beats you,

Speaker 4 this is okay. You just give them credit.
I mean, if I'm in Kansas City, you go to the middle of the field and say, Say, hey, man, Jalen, congrats, man. Good game.
You got to live with that.

Speaker 4 You got to live with it.

Speaker 4 Because if Saquon had run everybody else out of the building,

Speaker 4 he didn't run you out of the building. Jalen Hurst did what he needed to do.
He had no 300 yards, but he was accurate and he made you pay.

Speaker 4 Every time.

Speaker 4 Justin Jefferson is going viral, OJo. He's riding an ATV.
And of course, fans are afraid that Jetta could get injured doing this. Remember, Big Ben Rothersburger.
Do we have have it

Speaker 4 no what

Speaker 4 no helmet

Speaker 4 hey we don't wear no we don't wear no helmets or no atvs man okay

Speaker 4 now ask ben rothersberger do he wish he had a helmet on man

Speaker 4 that that's that and we dang we ain't got nothing to do with see that's the thing see athletes what makes us great is what makes us fallible because we don't believe it's going to happen to us well he's not he's not believing i mean it could happen but

Speaker 4 you said nobody wearing no ATV wearing a helmet.

Speaker 4 I'm just, let me finish. Let me talk.
Let me talk. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 I'm from Miami, right? Yes. I'm from Miami.
What do we do here in Miami? We ride ATVs in the city. I've been riding them all my life.
Marlon,

Speaker 4 let me tell you when I do them. Now, I don't do it all the time.

Speaker 4 When it was Christmas time,

Speaker 4 we 50D.

Speaker 4 Martin Luther King Jr. Parade, we 50D on Yamaha Bantes.
I ride dirt bikes. I've been doing it all my life.
I I didn't wear, we don't, you know, I ain't never wore no helmets, but I ride careful.

Speaker 4 I'm very safe. All I see is, all I see is him sitting there doing doughnuts in some sand all by himself.

Speaker 4 I mean, ain't nothing gonna happen right there. You know, not in that setting.
But I understand what you mean, though. I understand what you mean.
You know, you

Speaker 4 uh,

Speaker 4 you said, I remember when Lamar tripped over the jet skis.

Speaker 4 Wasn't nothing gonna happen, though, right? How you tripping over them jet skis, though, choke? Wait, who's tripping over the jet skis? skis? Lamar.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 you know what they call, you know what they call people that ride motorcycles and ATVs? What? Organ donors.

Speaker 4 Oh, I

Speaker 4 listen. I ride safe.
I've been riding safe. I ain't never had no accidents.

Speaker 4 But see, it's not you, Ocho.

Speaker 4 It's the cars.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't anticipate how fast you're actually going.

Speaker 4 They don't give a damn about you.

Speaker 4 Hey, actually, yeah, they don't. But you know what I've always learned? You know what I always learned? When I do ride,

Speaker 4 i ride offensively and defensively i'm not riding for me when i'm on a dirt bike or yamaha banshee i'm not riding for me

Speaker 4 i'm playing scenarios out in my head as i'm going ahead

Speaker 4 if if that makes sense it might not make sense to you

Speaker 4 if certain things if certain things happen if certain things happen i want to be able to process the information fast enough to be able to adjust I don't know if I'm not sure

Speaker 4 if I don't know if you can do that, Ocho. Right.
I mean, listen,

Speaker 4 I did. Well, Well, I don't do it no more.
I don't ride no more. I'm too old now, boy.
And the noise, the engine, the engine noise gets on my nerves.

Speaker 4 You know, you get old, you don't want to hear that loud, that loud crap no more.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm surprised.

Speaker 4 I would be shocked if the Vikings don't call him.

Speaker 4 He was doing donuts in some dirt. I don't even want to do anything.
I got $140 million tied up into you.

Speaker 4 A lot of times they put that. That's the same thing when people play basketball.
Hey, man, I'm just going out here getting me and run. And then when you blow your knee out, then what, Ocho?

Speaker 4 When guys were skiing, skiing used to be a big thing. Guys blow their knees out, then what? Right.

Speaker 4 The thing is, Ocho, is that

Speaker 4 we don't think things that happen to common people because we're doing what regular people don't do. Right.

Speaker 4 So by doing what other people don't do, we don't think the things that happen to them can happen to us.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 why do you think? So let me ask a question. I don't like that.
I think they should be able to enjoy themselves. It's the offseason.

Speaker 4 I think players should be able to do the things they like to do before they made it. I'm sure he was riding Fort Willis before.
I'm sure Lamar Jackson was riding Jet Skis before he made it.

Speaker 4 I think they should be able to enjoy themselves. So what about the guy? So what about the gang members? What about the guys that was robbing people that was doing that before they made it?

Speaker 4 They should still be able to do that, right?

Speaker 4 Come on, man. That's

Speaker 4 I'm just using your logic.

Speaker 4 I'm using your logic.

Speaker 4 You said a person should be able to do. I said the athletes, when they're in the offseason, they should be able to enjoy themselves.
So

Speaker 4 he should be able to do what he wants to do in the offseason, correct? Yes. Okay.

Speaker 4 No, I'm talking about the players. No, no, no, no, no.
That's not what you said. I'm saying there are players that did things.
What about all these Georgia players that

Speaker 4 get busted for speeding? 137, 117, 120. There's nothing wrong with that because it's the offseason and they've probably been driving like this their whole life, correct? No,

Speaker 4 they're rules that you shouldn't, that rules you're supposed to follow.

Speaker 4 You're not supposed to be speeding. You're not supposed to be speeding.
That's part of the rules. Oh, Cho.

Speaker 4 It said you're not supposed to be. But who said you can't ride an ATV? Hold on.
You should be able to ride an ATV in the offseason. What about with a helmet?

Speaker 4 What? What about with a helmet? You don't have to ride it. You don't have to, you know, there's certain places you don't have to have a helmet on, right?

Speaker 4 Mine is being one of them, wherever he is in the middle of nowhere where there's nobody around going in circles. But what about taking precautions, Ocho?

Speaker 4 You You don't, I mean, what about taking precautions?

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Nah, I like it. I like it.
I understand where you're coming from, but nah, that's just that's just being that's the nitpicking.

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, something can happen to you when you walk out your door, no matter what.

Speaker 4 Something can happen to you. You're gonna be driving in your car.
You're gonna a big rig. Let me ask you a question.
Are you more actually to get into an accident riding 115 or driving 65?

Speaker 4 What are the probabilities? Right.

Speaker 4 Stop asking. I'm going to say right.

Speaker 4 That's more likely to happen. Okay.
And listen to what you just said. Going 115 miles an hour or riding 65.
What's the probability? 115? The probability is you might get hurt going 115.

Speaker 4 But going in a circle slow as hell,

Speaker 4 there is no chance that thing would roll over. There's no chance.

Speaker 4 Absolutely, absolutely not. Not in dirt.
No.

Speaker 4 The wheels would have to get caught on something.

Speaker 4 Not on dirt. It's an ATV.

Speaker 4 i i all atv means all-terrain vehicle that doesn't mean anything ocho stop huh you're on dirt you're on sand i'm telling you as somebody who's been riding for 30 plus years all they're doing is going in the server ain't nothing finna happen come on now oh watch this understand i understand what you're talking about but come on now

Speaker 4 According to government website, over 100,000 people visit emergency rooms annually due to ATV accidents. Approximately Approximately 300 to 400 die in ATV accidents per year.
So nothing happens.

Speaker 4 Hey, hold on. You should see.
You should see what those people are doing that's dying. I have a difference.

Speaker 4 He just said that nothing could happen on the ATV.

Speaker 4 We're talking about the video for context. He's going in a donut in a circle.
Nothing's going to happen.

Speaker 4 So let me ask you a question. Going in a donut, has a car ever turned over going in the donut?

Speaker 4 What did we talk about? We're talking about the video.

Speaker 4 I know somebody that had an ATV.

Speaker 4 I know somebody that had a lot of people. We're talking about the video of Jeffrey Jefferson.
What do we talk about? Hey, hey, you want to tell them what you with your ATV accident, Ash?

Speaker 4 Going five miles an hour?

Speaker 4 Okay, T.

Speaker 4 Ash don't ask them not to ride no ATVs.

Speaker 4 Ash fail or flipped over? Broke a femur, fractured a rib, broke a wrist.

Speaker 4 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what?

Speaker 4 Serious? What she ran into?

Speaker 4 She flipped.

Speaker 4 No, she rode. She flipped over on herself.

Speaker 4 Oh, she actually, she ain't never rolled before, huh?

Speaker 4 Huh? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Her whole life,

Speaker 4 bro. Ash grew up on a farm.
I'm talking about a ranch. No, no, let me get it back.
A ranch. Right, right.
10,000 acres.

Speaker 4 15,000 acre ranch. Right.

Speaker 4 She's like, don't you call it a farm.

Speaker 4 Ash marba had how many, what 5,000 head of cattle?

Speaker 4 10,000 head of cattle. Is that a big enough ranch for you? Whoa, 10,000? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Jesus. No, ash.

Speaker 4 But look,

Speaker 4 ash don't really count. I don't like to put her in anything because Ash is clumsy.
Right.

Speaker 4 She throw her back out, getting up out of a chair.

Speaker 4 It's 85 degrees and she got pneumonia. So Ash is an outlier so

Speaker 4 for anything that could possibly happen. So you know what? Oh, Ocho.
I'm sorry I brought ash shit to this. Ash don't count, but these other people do count.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, that was that was a good one. But I

Speaker 4 mean,

Speaker 4 I just couldn't.

Speaker 4 I just couldn't. I quit.
Hey, Ocho, I used to love basketball, man. I love basketball.
But man, I got this money.

Speaker 4 Say, man, I ain't finished. I ain't finished.

Speaker 4 You got your money just, and you stopped doing what you love. I know, I didn't love it.
No,

Speaker 4 because basketball wasn't going to put, wasn't going to keep a roof over Maryporter head. It wasn't going to take care of the kids.

Speaker 4 Now, you tell me the NBA players, they don't be good by there playing football. No, you see nobody playing football.
No, they still play basketball in the offseason. And you know what?

Speaker 4 When they're crazy,

Speaker 4 you can finish. Can I finish? Yes.
You know what basketball players also do in offseason? They get their ass on ATVs. They get on jet skis.
They go have fun on yachts. They travel.

Speaker 4 They do all the same. They do all those things.
Now, your mindset is a little bit different. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And it always has been because the structure and discipline and you always remembering what pays the bills. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 You know, everybody done think like that. That's why in certain situations, especially like this, you're very passionate because if it was you in that position, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 4 I'm not taking that chance.

Speaker 4 But you know,

Speaker 4 Michael Jordan,

Speaker 4 actually, he used to have a motorcycle club. He had a motorcycle.

Speaker 4 He used to race.

Speaker 4 Well, he had a team, a motorcycle team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 And he used to ride hard.

Speaker 4 He had a crotch rocket. So, I mean, he was zipping through this.

Speaker 4 But he also had...

Speaker 4 That he could play pickup basketball because he had it written into his contract for the love of the game clause. So he could play pickup basketball.

Speaker 4 At that time, not a whole lot of guys had it.

Speaker 4 But I just look, if he go ride it, I would just put a helmet on. I would be, I would rather be safe than sorry.
Yes, sir. Be ready.
I'd just rather be safe than sorry. That's why I got off that.

Speaker 4 You know, you and I was talking about road bikes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I always wore a helmet. Then I just, man, every time I turn around, somebody done got their red ass ran over and didn't nobody stopped to help them.
Man, let me get my ass off this bike.

Speaker 4 You remember Jay Williams? The Duke? Jay.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Lost his career. Motorcycle.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The Duke, the number two pick in the drive.
Oh, Joe. Oh, oh.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 ESPN.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 Motorcycle. Ah.

Speaker 4 Actually, I had a team. Our teammate got killed, Broderick Thomas.
He got killed on a motorcycle. I just looked.

Speaker 4 My grandfather, they played at. And so once

Speaker 4 once

Speaker 4 I got big enough, old enough,

Speaker 4 boy, they call it ass fault. It's your ass and it's your fault.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 hey, one thing about ass. I ain't never want one.
It never wants one. Right.

Speaker 4 I could honestly say I've never ever wanted a

Speaker 4 motorcycle. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I didn't do motorcycles, but man, down here,

Speaker 4 them dirt bikes and them four-wheelers, and you know, we ride in the middle of the street and just oh, yeah,

Speaker 4 man, they got a motorcycle

Speaker 4 and Miami, New York, Philly, and Miami, when it comes to dirt bikes, yeah, and them and them from them for them, Yamaha. I see, I saw Meek out there.
They had that, it's like that.

Speaker 4 Every now, once in a while, you catch them in Atlanta, and they'd be about 50 or 100 deep. Wait, Atlanta, too? Yeah, they got a motorcycle club.
Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 And they go and they go.

Speaker 4 And the thing is, and you need it because all that noise, and then you can just you can control the traffic because once you get behind them, you can't go nowhere.

Speaker 4 No, because they they take it up all lanes of the road and it's like 40 of them, yeah.

Speaker 4 But I think that's the you know, that's that's the best way to ride

Speaker 4 is to you know to make sure you protect yourself. Yeah,

Speaker 4 nah, hell no,

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