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Sinners. But first, the Lakers snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.
No, let me take that back. They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Had a lead. With 12 seconds, they're up five.
LeBron gambled, and he's been gambling all night, and he's been getting away with it because they missed. In that situation, you don't gamble.
The only thing that can hurt you is a three. He gave up a three.
Now you're up two. Okay, he gave a lazy pass to Austin Reeves.
Now you're down one with six seconds. Austin Reeves makes a fantastic play, and guess what? Josh Giddey from half court knocks the bomb.
This one's on LeBron. Yeah.
This one's on LeBron. He has not played well.
Now, he got the tip in last night, and it bailed him out because he didn't play well against

the Magic. He was 0-3 from the three.

Last night, 0-3 from the three.

Tonight, 0-7 from the

three. He was 9-20.

No, he was 8-20 from the floor.

Go check what he was last night, like

4-14. This won't get it

done. This

was a game. They had the game,

Ocho. 12 seconds, you're up up five why would you gamble in that situation why and then why would you give a lazy pass in that situation right up on your own goal come on man I just don't get it I don't get it uh I don't know what's going on, but he has not played well the last three games, the tip-in notwithstanding.
But you go back and look at it, it is what it is. I'm not saying anything that anybody that has watched the Lakers over the last three games is not thinking, or not thinking, but unfortunately, a lot of them don't have microphones, so they can't say it.
But what I'm saying is what you've been thinking.

This one is on LeBron.

44 F in points in the fourth quarter.

Normally, Ocho, it's the third quarter.

Quarter, yeah.

Tonight, they held the Bulls to 17 points in the third quarter,

only to give up 44 in the fourth.

I'm trying to look at Josh Giddey and Werther guarding LeBron. Josh Giddey, again, had another triple-double.
The other time they played him, he almost had a quadruple-double. He was two steals away from a quad-double.
Tonight, he had a triple-double and he guarded LeBron. Worked to guard LeBron and LeBron just was perfectly content to stand his ass in the corner.
Yeah. Okay, Luka, you do it.
Okay, Austin Reeves, you do it. Yeah.
That's not good enough. But listen, that's the point of having the supporting cast.
That's the point of having the supporting cast to bail you out of situations like this. They've been bailing him out the last three games.
But that's only three games, man. That's only three games.
You don't realize he's been out for two weeks. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, I understand.
But he's been out for two weeks, but he's also coming back off an injury. So are we understanding? He's in the game.
We're not doing that.

We're not doing that.

I see 23 with James on the back.

If he's not healthy enough, sit down.

But what we're not going to do is make excuses.

We don't do that here.

Right.

All right.

Well, listen, he hasn't played well the past three games.

He hasn't. They had it in the bag tonight.

Obviously, the game of basketball being a game of runs. It was up and down.
I thought they had the game sealed. I'm not even going to lie to you.
I thought they had it sealed towards the end. It was up five with 12 seconds.
Exactly. I'm just trying to figure, why would LeBron in that situation gamble? Why would he gamble and leave a three-point shot? I mean, he left the guy open.
That's a shooter round three. When you lose wide open, why in that situation? That's what I don't get.
LeBron has too much basketball IQ to know in that situation. Ocho, it's kind of like a corner.
Why would you gamble in a situation like that when you're up four? Why would you try to take the slant away? And the dude runs a slow go.

In this situation, Brian, you don't need to gamble.

Make him run time. If the guy

hit a tough shot, so be it.

But you can't give him a wide open three.

You can't be lazy on a bounce

path under your own goal. Get

against it. Fire the back to Kobe

White. He nails a three.

What was a five point lead with 12

seconds? You find yourself down one with six seconds. Yeah.
Every starter for the Laker was minus. Had a negative plus minus.
Phenney Smith, minus 10. LeBron, minus 10.
Jackson Hayes, minus nine. Luka, minus one.
Reeves, minus 10 10 everybody that came off the bench

that played four guys

was plus

plus nine Vanderbilt

plus 13 Vincent

plus three Godwin

plus five Kinnett

even though he didn't score a point

another thing guys

you turn the ball over

Finney Smith

I know you're upset

because uh

who called you

worked a culture with an elbow

yeah

but if they didn't call it,

you can't push the man

in the back.

They're going to call a fire.

Every time.

Godwin.

You can't shove the guy.

Even though he shoved you,

they didn't call a fire.

You shoved him

in the open court.

They're going to call it.

Every time.

I mean,

ain't nobody going to fight.

Why you shoving?

Y'all not going to square up. All you're doing is giving the ball right back to him after they got a field goal.
Right. I mean, that was...
I'm gonna been around JJ a little bit at ESPN, but I know he's losing his mind. Oh, yeah.
You might be losing your mind a little bit more than JJ. No, I promise you I'm not.
I promise you I'm not because it's the mistakes like that. But, see, he's not going to tell LeBron what he needs to tell LeBron.
In that situation, LeBron, you can't do that. You can't gamble and then turn the ball over.
Mm-hmm. And then nobody picked up Giddy.
So you're going to let him get it. So you're going to let the guy.
How many times, Ocho, do you think guyscho do you think guys practice half court shots right you know what I don't think they don't practice no damn half court shots they play around doing them that's what I'm saying they'd be betting money I promise you if Steph Curry is shooting the ball from the tunnel Luca if all these guys that could potentially take a shot at the end of the game is horsing around with that shot. That's not as...
How many times have we seen him make that shot this year? So ain't nobody gonna make the guy pick the guy ball up. You gonna wait till he get to half court and then try to jump.
It's too late. He's already gotten to a shooting motion.
Yeah. And listen, that game was good.
I know you're upset about your Lakers losing, but that game was a roller coaster towards the end. The Lakers had it.
They were up five. You give up 44 points in the fourth quarter? And listen, Yeah.
I mean, defense has been their issue.

That's been their Achilles heel the past three games.

Not only defense, but being transitioned, being lazy.

You know, I'm not...

I'm not...

I'm not Doris Burke or George Sodano, you know,

to be sitting here talking like I know the game of basketball like that.

But I got 20-20 vision. I can see.
How many threes did they give up in the fourth quarter, Ash? They had to give up like seven threes, and a lot of them was uncontested. Not closing out.
Hey, Josh, Josh Giddey, Josh Giddey, nice, bro.

They traded Josh Giddey for Alex Caruso.

Oh.

Hey, that doesn't... Everybody's nice against the Lakers.

Bulls were 11 for 14 from three in the fourth quarter.

Listen, what are the chances? I'm going to say it like that. What are the chances to go 11 for 14 in the quarter that where it matters most? A lot of teams can go 11 for 14.
If you let them shoot around threes where they just go and get into their shooting motion. Where it's not contested? Yes.
Oh. That's why I said you don't realize how skilled these guys are.
Go sit around the game and watch them shoot the ball. And then you're like, damn, you're more surprised that they miss than when they make it.
Make it, right. Because you see them guys that I'm talking about they hitting seven, eight, nine, ten shots in a row from the three.
I mean, what do you expect to happen? You turn the ball over, you get lazy, you gamble, you take unnecessary risk that you don't even need to take that risk. I don't even know why Bron would even put himself in that situation.
Right. Ah.
and then you know they put the ball in Luka hand three shots in a row he missed a shot yeah Austin missed a shot in the fourth when they could have got some separation and then they come down and just hey just like all of a, okay, we got the game won and just stop playing. They probably thought they had it won.
If you look at everybody's body language, we think we got the game won. I mean, but, you know, you're going to have games like this.
No, no, no, no, no, no, not like this. You don't think so? Not like this.
No. When LeBron James and Luka Doncic on the court,

you should not have too high IQ basketball players like that.

LeBron knows better.

Why would you gamble?

That's what I need.

I hope a reporter asks him.

LeBron, in that situation that you gave up the three ball in the corner to Williams,

why would you gamble on that situation?

See, do your, Ocho, if I get beat doing my job, I was doing my job. I'm not going to get beat doing someone else's job because everybody's looking at you.
Now, there ain't nobody going to say it, but everybody's like, well, damn, Brian. Had that been somebody else, you like, huh? Stop.
Look, at some, at some time, and Luca's got to stop this damn complaining, bro. It's annoying as F.
Hold to the rim. Every time, Luca, every time you're not getting filed.
Right. You're not.
And you got to get back. Everybody, LeBron, you got to get back.
They sitting there talking about, he filed me. Well, They're not going to gotta get back everybody LeBron you gotta get back they sitting there talking about he found me

well they're not gonna blow the whistle once the guy got the ball

and heading up the court

now they're playing 5 on 4

they're playing 5 on 4

they get a 3 in transition

or they get an easy basket

come on guys

yeah basket. Mm-hmm.
Come on, guys. Yeah.
I don't know. I don't...
Listen, I... I think you're going to get games like this.
You say it shouldn't happen with two players on the court, like LeBron and Luka. Obviously, mistakes happen.
The game of basketball is, I don't know, you can't really compare it to football in a sense. Maybe for T, you say don't make no excuses.
I'm not going to make no excuses. But if you have a game like this, you have players like LeBron and Luka playing this bad on a road game, a stretch of road games, where they're effort on defense and getting beat in transition.
There's got to be something wrong. I'm not going to make no excuses, but it has to be something wrong.
Ocho, what good if you complaining and, hey, they run a pick and you jump it up and down. I'm talking about, he picked me, ref.
He picked me, ref. And Chase got the ball running down the field.
He ain't finna throw the flag now. If he didn't throw the ball, he finna throw the flag at the point of contact, he's not finna throw it once the guy got the ball and running down the downfield.
Uh-huh. But you gotta understand, this is something Luke has been doing since he was in Dallas.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. But he doesn't, I hope that at some point in time, he's gonna have to realize, bro, you're putting our team at a disadvantage.

Because while you're standing there complaining

or you're sitting on the floor,

they're on a 5-0 floor transition against us.

Right.

Now, we don't want to give up a layup,

but now we're giving up transition.

Guys are just walking into a wide-open three.

Mm-hmm.

Understandable.

It has not happened often. But it's happened.
This was on LeBron. And knowing him, he's going to say it, that's on me.
I gambled, gave up a three. I got lazy with a pass, gave up another three, and he should have met before Josh Giddey.
You got to make him pick the ball up. You don't let somebody go straight.
Once he gets into a shooting motion, it's over. Yeah.
They got Kobe White out there looking like Kobe Bryant. For the second game in a row against the Lakers.

Hell, he played great against the Nuggets too the other night.

He was sensational against the Nuggets.

But LeBron, I mean, LeBron had more field goal attempts

than points.

Last night, he was 4-14.

He had 14 points. The other night uh uh who did he play Orlando did he play Orlando same thing yeah um this is embarrassing loss this is a this is seriously.
This reminds you of the Orlando Magic loss. They had Orlando beat the whole game.
They horse-jibed around, and then they let Franz Wagner hit a three at the end of the game. Point one second on the clock, boom.
You lose. Game over.
Same thing. Now, you could have been like maybe in the third spot.
You're going to be kicking yourself in the ass when you find yourself in the sixth. You're messing around and slide all the way to the seventh and you're in the play-in.
And you should be getting rest. And now you're one or two losses away from being out of the playoffs.
Playoffs, yeah. I don't think that's going to happen.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.

Yeah, I mean, you got... I mean, Austin Reeves was 10 of 17.

You got Jackson Hayes was 9 of 11.

Vanderbilt was 3 of 4.

Gabe Vincent was 3 of 6.

Godwin was 3 of 4.

The bench...

Look, the bench came in and gave you

16, 23 points.

23!

Phenis Smith didn't give you much. He gave you three.
LeBron assisted the ball well. He had four turnovers.
That last turnover really hurt. You gave up a three.
Well, I mean, that last sequence, that last 12 seconds, that's on LeBron. It was bad.
Listen, as bad as it was for the Lakers, if you're a fan of the game of basketball, it was a thing to see. Oh, it was a great game.
I mean, if you like basketball, Ojo. Yeah, it was a thing to see.
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Despite stating that he had nothing to do with the trade, former Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has received flack from fans. Cuban responded to a Facebook post criticizing him and revealed new details about the Mavs.
I made money two out of 23 years when I was a majority owner. Lost hundreds of millions of dollars.
I fully expected to run basketball. The NBA wouldn't let me put it in the contract.
They took me out of it. I thought the Addisons would stick to their word because they didn't know the first thing about running a team.
Someone obviously changed their mind. Ocho.
Yeah. Guess what? It's kind of like me and Shea Shea Media.
I don't have to run anything by anybody. Right.
You made the call. He's not the majority owner anymore.

Someone else is.

They don't have to.

He said he thought he was running basketball operations.

Okay.

When I pay,

when somebody else is the majority owner,

I changed my mind.

You're not running basketball operations anymore.

Right.

Ain't nothing you can do.

And be it, look, at some point in time, being mad ain't going to change nothing.

No, absolutely not.

The trade has happened.

It's over.

You have to get over it.

You have to get over it.

I don't know.

It doesn't make any sense to be mad at anybody at this point in time.

You can still vent about Nico Harrison, say he shouldn't have happened. But y'all think Nico would have made this trade without the owner's blessings? Yeah, absolutely not.
Do y'all understand how this works? It's just like the first round draft pick or you paying somebody. You think Mike Brown did not sign off on giving Chase this money.
You don't think Mike Brown signed off and giving Joe Burrow this money. When it goes to that level, oh, that thing going to the top of the flagpole.
Not the middle. Yeah.
This is not a gym. This is not a football operations.
This is Mike Brown saying, okay. Yeah.
I mean, listen, there's a pecking order and everything, huh? Yes. And everything.
Before decisions are made, unless you're the top dog and the one who cuts the checks and your name is on the check, there's always a pecking order. And everything goes as follows before decisions are made, especially in portmills like that.
Yes. But, I mean, look, Cuban has made it, but Cuban said he said he would have never done the deal.
He also said that, look, and, and, and go back and listen to the interview. Uh, what he was talking, I sat down with him this summer and he said, look, he's going to look to move the team because he don't, his kids, he don't want them.
That was his goal. That was what he wanted.
He don't want his kids to be under that kind of pressure

and

he said if you notice

venture capitalists

big business

they have other things

they can build casinos

and they can increase

other streams of revenue

and I've lost money

two

I've made money

two of the 23 years

in which I've owned the team

lost hundreds of millions

yeah

it's not how much you make

how much you can keep

Thank you. lost hundreds of millions.
Yeah. It's not how much you make.
How much you can keep. It's when they Uncle Sam comes and oh, in this situation where he's losing money.
They're like, but you're a billionaire. What billionaire you don't like losing money? They're trying to make it.
They're trying to lose it. So I don't get why they're upset at Cuban.
He's not the majority owner. I don't know why you're mad at Nico, because he had the owners, Dumont.
I think he's the son-in-law of Adelson's family. The wife, Sheldon, rest just so, Mr.
Addison, he died, left it to his wife. I think Dumont is the son-in-law and he's running it.
But they purchased the majority of share from Cuban. Right.
This deal with Luka, you think if somebody moves, I'm trying to think, who? Giannis. You think they can move Giannis without the owner's blessing? You think they can move Ant-Man without the owner's blessing? They traded a top five player in the NBA.
And then tell him no. Why would he? He had no idea.
Most of the time, players of that magnitude, if I'm not mistaken, no management, and those that sit in the higher seats and high positions, they let you know. Maybe not publicly, but behind closed doors.
Listen, we're thinking of moving you on. Or they let your agent know.
We're thinking of moving on without you. Yes.
We're thinking about going in a different direction. Right.
That happens all the time? But this is one of the few times where it out the blue, it even surprised him. Hey, let's surprise me.
Look, there couldn't have been that many people that have that known because it didn't get out. You're not going to tell five, six, seven, eight people, something and not get out get out, yeah, especially like that though something like that, of that magnitude you know, you know folk can't hold no water, man no, of course not yeah, I mean at the end of the day whoever owns the majority

right

the controlling interest

so that's just like

well what's going to

I mean this is one thing

it's like the Cowboys

everybody knows don't nobody blame

anybody else for anything but Jerry because Jerry controls everything. One person.
James Harden spoke to Overtime about his career and had this to say. Let's take a listen, Ocho.
Yes, sir. You're 35 years old, but you're still balling out.
What is your secret to longevity? The work. I don't feel like I get enough credit for the work that I put in.
You know, people want to talk about everything else that they honestly do not know about. But in honesty, the work is being put in.
And if the work isn't being put in, then these opportunities won't be happening for me. So, like, I really love the game of basketball.
You know, it's gotten me to a point to where I am today. That's priority number one.
And now I'm getting older, so like the proper, like eating and sleeping and the recovery aspect is very, very important, which I've been on top of. Like anything in life, you put the work in and, you know, the results is about to happen.
And sometimes you put the work in and I got bad, I have bad games, but, you know, more times than not, you know, good things are going to happen. Oh, Joe, I tell people this all the time.
Yes, sir. People say, well, Shannon, hard work.
I said, no. I said, hard work doesn't guarantee you anything I said without it you don't have a chance no at all and he mentioned it as he got older he had to work harder he had to change some things he changed his eating habits he probably doesn't go out as much or if he does go out, he doesn't stay out as

long.

Things have to change. You're not the same

as we start

to age. You might think it

but the body

knows it.

Yeah, you can't see it.

Especially elite athletes like

James Harden.

You don't see it in your game. You never see it in the game.
You think everything is still the same. But everything changes as you get older.
I'm sure his numbers don't look the same as they once did when it was in his prime. No, because he doesn't have the ball like he once did.
He's not reliant because you got to realize when he went to Jersey, Brooklyn, he got, uh, uh, Jersey, Brooklyn, he got Katie and Kyrie. Oh, that's too much.
Okay. He goes, he goes to, uh, uh, uh, Philly and he has Joel Embiid.
Uh huh. So now he's not, now he has, uh, uh, Kawhi.
He had PG. Yeah.
Now he has, uh, uh, uh, uh, Kawhi and, uh, Norman Powell. So he's not asked to do what he once did where he was the entirety of the show in Houston he's 11 time all star 3 time scoring champ 2 time assist champ 7 time all NBA he was an all rookie selection he was a 2011-2012 6th man of the year A 2017-18 MVP and a member of the 75th anniversary team.
Yeah. I have a question.
Despite James Harden, based on the resume and all the accolades that you just named, again, I think, to me, one of the greatest scorers of all time as well. Yeah, he is.
Hall of Famer. Yeah.
All right.

Regardless of having the ratings.

Yeah, he's an all-time great.

That's why he's a member.

He's not a member of the 75th anniversary team

for no reason.

I mean, you look at the numbers,

what he's put up.

He's a scoring champ.

He's an all-NBA selection.

He's an all-star.

Right.

Two-time assist champ.

Yeah, he's very deserving.

He's one of the top 75 players regardless if he has a championship-star. Right.
Two-time assist champ. Yeah, he's very deserving.
He's one of the top 75 players, regardless if he has a championship. Okay.
But I think, like, in this situation, you know, look, people try to say it's just rings. It's not just rings.
Because if it was just rings, the Celtics would be littered with GOAT players. Right.
Because they have players that have more rings than anybody. Russell has more than anybody.
They have another three guys that have 10 rings. Several other guys that have eight or nine rings.
Nobody ever brings those guys up into the GOAT conversation because it's other things also. All NBA selections, all-star selections, MVPs, rings.
Yes, when it comes into, because Ocho, as you go up higher, now it's more things that we got to pick from. So now as we go up, it's like, damn.
Okay, rings, okay, we even. All NBA selections, we even.
All-stars, we even. Defensive player of the year.
Things like that. Assist, scoring, all of that factors in.
So it's not just one thing. It's not just rings.
If you just want to make it about that, well, it's Russell. Russell has more rings, just as many MVPs, but not.
Kareem has six regular season MVPs, and people don't put him in the goal. I think he's probably the guy that gets undervalued, but all bigs get undervalued.
If you go back and look at, Wilt has more 50-point games than the next six guys combined. Damn.

Yes.

That's not me.

Wilt got records

ain't nobody gonna ever break.

They talking about

what record is unbreakable?

Wilt's.

Ain't nobody gonna average

50 and 25 for a season, no show.

Ain't nobody that ain't happening.

He averaged 27 rebounds

for an entire season.

He once played 48.2 minutes for an entire season.

So he played the entirety of the game.

Some things are not going to be broken.

But James Harden, I don't think he gets enough credit

because we look at his body and he's not sculpted.

He don't got shoulders like Dwight.

He ain't aesthetically like LeBron.

But for him to play at the level that he's playing at for an extended period of time he has to be doing something consistently at that consistently so what we got Brock Purdy says he's about

about 40% of the time

he's not able to see

his intended target

on throws downfield

due to the size

of the lineman

in front of him

he talked about

how important it is

knowing coverage

his scheme

and knowing

where his receivers

are supposed to be

how common is this

is this typical

for quarterbacks

who aren't very tall

yeah

yeah

Drew Brees

all the time huh all the time. Huh? All the time.
Drew Brees. Yeah, Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson. You have to throw between the linemen.
I'm trying to think. That's why they call it throwing lanes.
Yeah, and you have to anticipate as well. Yes.
I mean, it's been, remember, Doug Flutie. When Doug Flutie plays.
Yes.

What you think Kyler Murray sees?

Man, what?

I couldn't think of it.

Kyler Murray.

Hell, half the time,

he probably looking at him lying with ass.

Who else is short, huh?

Who else?

I know everybody's tall, man.

Kyler, Drew was short.

Baker Mayfield is short.

Short.

Russell Wilson.

Yeah, I said Russ.

Trying to think who else.

Tua.

Oh, yeah.

Tua is not that tall.

Bryce Young.

Okay, Bryce is short. Yeah, Bryce is in that boat too But you know what Ocho I've said that If I got 50 million Yeah I wouldn't have said it before I wouldn't have said it But anyway listen The fact that he did say it He's still in a good position anyway Because he's already Putting the small Semble size of work Well he gonna get his money Anyway.
But the fact that you've been able to do what you've done, even though you couldn't see 40% of the time, I mean, it can work in your favor, too. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, look. Mike Vick wasn't the tallest.
Johnny Manziel wasn't tall. Yeah, no, not at all.

Not at all.

How tall is Hurts?

It's not like Hurts 6'5".

He's probably average height, probably 6'1".

Yeah.

Jayden got a little height on him, though.

How tall is that, Jayden Daniels?

Jayden tall.

He's about 6'3".

Yeah, but Ocho, but he's 6'1".

His offensive line is 6'6".

Yeah.

Who are you seeing over?

Yeah, you Ocho, but he's 6'1", his offensive line is 6'6". Yeah.

Who are you seeing over?

Yeah, you're right.

But you know, once you drop back...

Everybody gonna beat Josh Allen.

Yeah.

You gotta think, also in today's game, especially with the offense that we're seeing now,

most of the time, quarterbacks are in the gun.

Yeah, for sure.

Most of the time, quarterbacks are in the gun. So you're already at an advantage if you are a short quarterback anyway.
Then that all comes down to you processing and having anticipatory skills and when to get the ball out and hoping your receivers get open. Also, Packer safety Xavier McKinney started this course today when he tweeted, nepotism is always okay and justified unless it's a black man doing it.
Then it's a problem. You mofos are corrupt and brainwashed.
And for all you black folks in the media, stop. We can't say that word, Ocho, but it's C-O-O-N-I-N-G because they'll flag us.
So that's a racial slur now. Yes, sir.
So I've had to learn the hard way. Right, right, right.
But y'all know it's the trash panda. He said y'all stop trash pandering and being puppets.
You ain't tired yet. Damn.
Ocho, you agree? Yeah. Come on.
We talked about this before.

We talked about this before.

It's always a problem.

It's always a problem when we do it.

When we put those that are part of our family in treating positions,

and we're in a position of power,

and we allow them to take advantage.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it happens all the time.

It happens all the time with our brethren. Anytime we do it, it's always an issue, and it happens all the time.
It happens all the time with our brethren.

Anytime we do it, it's always an issue and it brought to the forefront on why we do it.

Andy Reid put his sons on the coaching staff.

Bill Belichick put his sons on the coaching staff.

Yeah.

Ain't no problem.

This has been going on for a very long time.

For sure.

It happens all the time.

Not in just sports, but in the corporate world as well.

It happens all the time.

Hell yes.

Thank you. For a very long time.
For sure. It happens all the time.
Not in just sports, but in the corporate world as well. It happens all the time.

Hell yes.

But we're the only ones that are not supposed to do it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's frowned upon.

It's frowned upon.

It is.

It is.

And listen, we just call a spade a spade.

A lot of times we be doing it, though.

They don't really talk about no nepotism. They're like, Hey, I'll get in position.
I'm a, and we see it all the time. People get in position.
They call their homeboys all the time. Qualifications don't matter, but we understand, Ocho.
We're not allowed that Liberty. We don't get that freedom.
We can't be putting

no homeboys in that ain't qualified.

If my homeboys qualified, we can do it.

Oh, the qualifications.

Hey, you got to be careful.

You can't just hire your homeboys now.

You know, homeboys get comfortable, think they can get away

with doing certain things. Absolutely.

Because you're cool. Nah, it ain't about

being cool, man.

I got a business to run, whatever it may be.

We still got work

to do now.

Man, the Washington

Wizards need their buck here.

Indiana scored 162

points.

In real life? A video game?

Against the Wizards.

That's embarrassing.

162.

Now, there was once upon a time in the 80s, Ocho,

it was customary.

You see 150, 140 games.

I mean, I think the NBA record somebody scored,

I think 183 to 181 was the final triple overtime.

Listen, this was a real game, and we're not talking about the All-Star break. No.
We're not talking about the All-Star game. A real game, you let somebody score 162? 162 to 109.
I bet they must have shot threes the whole game. Nah, Washington was terrible the whole game.
Let's see words are out for the most points in NBA franchise history and the most allowed they had nine players in double figures the Pacers did let's see pull up the box score right quick so we can get this and they did this on the road this on the road. They weren't even at home.
Ah. And no player played more than 25 minutes.
That's nasty. Caliberto had 29 and 25 minutes.
Miles Turner had 17 and 21 minutes. Neesmith had 11 and 19.
Siakam had 13 and 23. And then you just, guys just went to work.
That's crazy. That's embarrassing.
Somebody didn't care.

They shot 64% from the floor,

57% from the three.

They were 27 of 47.

17 of 19 from the floor.

I mean, from the free throw line.

But yeah, McKinney's right.

Yeah.

Jordan, black guy.

I mean, I wish my kids wanted to do something in here that I could like look you start you know you ain't got to you ain't got to you know send no resume in you know the CEO tell them who you who you reference hey listen when your kids come in are they gonna wanna do the work that's what I'm saying understanding how serious you are about club shape shape about nightcap they know and understand hey this train gotta keep rolling now mmhmm yeah yeah I think you gotta be weary you gotta be weary sometimes your kids but they don't they weary. Sometimes your kids want things handed to them.

I'm tough.

I mean,

I'm probably tougher

on my kids

than I would be

somebody else

and everybody knows

that works with me.

They know the expectation

that I have.

Right.

What did Kayla say?

I don't want to work

for my daddy.

He yelled too much.

Oh, I am. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, make no mistake. I'm tough on everybody.
Kayla, if I'm tough on my damn self, what am I supposed to be easier on everybody else? I should be easier on myself. Uh-huh.
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Russell Wilson is coming to the Giants with the expectation that he'll be the starting quarterback. But his presser, Ocho, he said, yeah, I expect the start to come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day.
I think this team is really looking for somebody to lead them every way. Is this a match made in heaven for the Giants, Ocho? I mean, listen, everywhere.
Remember now, Ocho, before you go. Come on.
They signed, they gave Jameis two years, 8 million. Russ basically is a one-year deal for 10 and a half million.
That's guaranteed. He can make up to 21 million, but he got to win like what? He gets X amount of dollars per win or something like that.
Right. But anyway, do you see them taking a quarterback with the Yeah.
I think the third pick.

Where are they picking up?

Yeah.

Listen.

I don't care if they had 30.

Third.

Go ahead, Ocho.

I don't care if they had 37 quarterbacks on their roster right now.

They taking a quarterback come draft time because there's still no quarterback of the future.

Now, whoever they draft at quarterback, they have somebody they can learn from and learn behind for a year before they're put into that offense. And depending on how to play from whoever's star, whether it's DeVito, whether it's James Winston, whether it's Wessie Wilson.
Man, DeVito, stop. DeVito ain't starting.
You know damn well DeVito ain't starting. Stop putting that out there.
I'm just calling the names of the people on the roster, baby. Let me get my point across.
But either way, it could be Shador. It could be Cam Ward.
They might even surprise us and pick somebody else. You never know.
You know how the draft works. Right.
And sometimes when it comes to their decision making. But either way, I think Russell Wilson probably going to be the starter.
Everywhere he goes, he's the ultimate, not only competitor, but his approach to the game and willingness to learn the offense and obviously be a team player and all that good stuff. He says all the right stuff.
So there's a reason why the Giants wanted to extend that grace to him, allow him another year, and I'm excited. I mean, Russell Wilson, Malik Nabors, they still need to do something with the effing offensive line.
Yeah. And get another, no disrespect to brother Slayton.
Very nice receiver. You got Malik Nabors, but you still need another playmaker.
But I think they brought, didn't they bring Slayton back? Didn't he back? Yeah, he back. That's what I just said.
They still need another playmaker. They just played Slayton.
But they still need another playmaker outside of them, you know, to go with Malik Nabors and Slayton. That offensive line, boy, it's abysmal.
It's abysmal. Because so you're going to have Russell running for his life.
Yeah. Outside of that, there are so many things they need to address offensively to actually be competitive week in and week out.
Especially when you're bringing in a quarterback. You're definitely drafting a quarterback.
I don't know who it's going to be. Whether it be Shador, whether it be Cam Ward, or maybe surprisingly pick somebody else you might like that you've seen.
But there are other issues that need to be fixed. And to me, I would start with that offensive line.
If I told you five years ago, this would Russell Wilson's career. Would you have believed it? Bouncing around like this on Joe? You wouldn't have.
No, no, probably not. Not, probably not.
Because even me, as a lover and an enthusiast of the game and understanding of it, the trajectory in which he was going was always, to me, he was viewed as the top, the cream of the top. One of the elites.
Because he was consistent year in and year out. Yeah.
Year in and year out. He was consistent.
He was in a place of comfortability where he knew a system and you just go in there and do what you need to do year in and year out. Now on the back end, things change.
I wish Pete Carroll hadn't made that call. You already know what I'm talking about.
Yeah. And you would have had two rings under your belt.
Yeah. But I think, man, Seattle saw something.
They saw slippage, Ocho. Ah, I don't know.
Ah. Ocho, he's been on his third team in 33 years.
Yeah. That ain't no way around it.
Let's not sugarcoat it. He's his third team in three years.
Mm-hmm. Right.
It's tough. Because, you know, you learn the Broncos system.
You were there for two years. You go to Pittsburgh.
You learn that system. It gets harder and harder to keep.
I mean, you think about it. It gets harder and harder to learn a system.
Yeah. Even though, because look at Baker.
Once he got, look, okay, he went to Carolina. He was in the Rams Rams well we everybody knew he wasn't going to stay very long with the Rams for the fact they had Matthew Stafford but look at him now he's thriving but he got great complimentary players around him he got Mike Evans he got Chris Garvin he got a nice running back they did a great job Bucket Irvin they did a great job in the draft with the running back position.
Mike Evans is Mr. Consistency.
Chris Godwin went down, but hey, he's back. That's why I think supporting the cast matters.
That's why I say it all the time. For a quarterback that may be on the decline, where he's not the the same as he once was If you're a quarterback And you're not in a position And you need those players around you To make you better When you're not the caliber of player anymore To make them actually better You have to be in the right system Yeah The right supporting cast And everything will take off It's hard to hide your weaknesses when those around you ain't that good.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very hard to hide your weaknesses.
Yeah, because I'm going to make you play to it. Yes.
Hey. Yeah.
That's what makes the Eagles so difficult. Yeah.
Because if you take Saquon away, you got two guys outside that can make you pay. You got to deal with it, yeah.
So now, what do they do? They're like, we just go play zone because you can't run the football. With what you got behind you, Patrick Mahomes, you can't run the football.
Right. So now they say, you know what, hey, Kansas City say, nah, Saquon, we ain't going to let you do, we ain't going to let you run outside the building.
Jameera says, okay, I'll throw you out the building.

I got you.

Hold this.

That's the thing.

It's not that complicated.

It's really not.

You try to take away what the strength is,

and if somebody beats you, this is okay.

You just give them credit.

I mean, if I'm Kansas City, you go to the middle of the field,

say, hey, man, Jalen, congrats, man.

Good game.

You got to live with that.

You got to live with it. Because Saquon is running everybody else middle of the field and say, hey, man, Jalen, congrats, man.
Good game. You got to live with that.
You got to live with it. Because if Saquon had run everybody else out of the building, he didn't run you out of the building.
Jalen Hurst did what he needed to do. He had thrown for 300 yards, but he was accurate.
And he made you pay. Every time.
Justin Jefferson is going viral, Ocho. He's riding an ATV.

And of course, fans are afraid that Jenna could get injured doing this.

Remember, Big Ben Roethlisberger.

Do we have it?

No.

What?

No helmet.

I don't want no helmets or no ATVs, man.

Okay.

Now,

ask Ben Roethlisberger

do we wish he had a helmet on?

Man.

That's,

that,

we ain't got nothing to do with it, man.

See, that's the thing.

See,

athletes,

what makes us great

is what makes us fallible

because we don't believe

it's going to happen to us.

Well,

he's not believing.

I mean,

it could happen,

but he got to be safe.

Did you see what you said?

You said,

nobody wear no ATV wearing a helmet. I mean, I'm just, let No, you don't.
Did you see what you said? You said nobody wears no ATV wearing a helmet. Let me finish.
Let me talk. I'm from Miami, right? Yes.
I'm from Miami. What do we do here in Miami? We ride ATVs in the city.
I've been riding them all my life. Let me tell you when I do them.
Now, I don't do it all the time. When it was Christmas time, we 50D.
Martin Luther King Jr. Parade, we 50D on Yamaha Banshees.
I ride dirt bikes. I've been doing it all my life.
I didn't wear I ain't never wear no helmets, but I ride careful. I'm very safe.
All I see is him sitting there doing donuts and some sand all by himself. I mean, nothing gonna happen right there.
You know, not in that setting. But I understand what you mean, though.
I understand what you mean. You know, you said, I remember when Lamar tripped over the jet skis.
Wasn't nothing gonna happen, though, right? How you tripped over the jet skis, Ocho? Wait, who tripped over the jet skis? Lamar. What happened? He did? You know what they call people that ride motorcycles in ATVs? What? Organ donors.
Oh, listen, I ride safe. I've been riding safe.
I ain't never had no accidents. But see, it's not you, Ocho.
It's the cars. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't anticipate how fast you're actually going. And they don't give a damn about you.
Actually, yeah, they don't. But you know what I've always learned? You know what I always learned when I do ride on? I ride offensively and defensively.
I'm not riding for me when I'm on a dirt bike or Yamaha Banshee. I'm not riding for me.
I'm playing scenarios out in my head as I'm going ahead. If that makes sense.

It might not make sense to you.

If certain things happen,

if certain things happen,

I want to be able to process the information fast enough

to be able to adjust.

I don't know if you can do that, Ocho.

Right.

I mean, listen, I did.

Well, I don't do it no more.

I don't ride no more.

I'm too old and that way.

And the noise, the engine noise get on my nerves. You know, you get old, you don't want to hear that loud crap no more.
I mean, I'm surprised. I would be shocked if the Vikings don't call him.
He was doing donuts in some dirt. Doesn't matter.
He wasn't doing nothing. I got $140 million tied up in you.
A lot of times they put that, that's the same thing when people play basketball. Hey, man, I'm just going out here, get me a run.
And then when you blow your knee out, then what, Ocho? When guys were skiing, skiing used to be a big thing. Guys blow their knees out, then what? Right.
The thing is, Ocho, is that as an athlete, we don't think things that happen to common people because we're doing what regular people don't do. So by doing what other people don't do, we don't think the thing that happened to them can happen to us.
So why do you think? Let me ask a question. I don't like that.
I think they should be able to enjoy themselves. It's the offseason.
I think players should be able to do the things they like to do before they made it. I'm sure he was riding four-wheelers before.
I'm sure Lamar Jackson was riding jet skis before he made it. I think they should be able to enjoy themselves.
So what about the gang members? What about the guy that was robbing people that was doing that before they made it? They should still be able to do that, right? Come on, man. I I'm using your logic.
You said a person should be able to do. I said the athletes, when they're in the offseason, they should be able to enjoy themselves as long as they're careful.
He should be able to do what he wants to do in the offseason, correct? Yes. Okay.
No, I'm talking about the players. No, no, no, no.
That's what you're saying. I'm saying there are players that did things.
What about all these Georgia players that get busted for speeding? 137, 117, 120. There's nothing wrong with that because it's the offseason.
And they've probably been driving like this their whole life, correct? No, there are rules that you shouldn't, that rules you're supposed to follow. You're not supposed to be speeding.
You're not supposed to be speeding. That's part of the rules.
Ocho. Part of the rules is saying you're not supposed to be speeding.
Who said you can't ride an ATV? Hold on. You should be able to ride an ATV in the off season.
What about with a helmet? What? What about with a helmet? You don't have to ride it. You know, there's certain places you don't have to have a helmet on, right? Miami being one of them.
Wherever he is, in the middle of nowhere, where there's nobody around, going in circles. But what about taking precautions, Ocho? I mean, what about taking precautions? Okay.
Nah. I like it.
I understand where you're coming from, but nah. That's just being, that's the nitpicking.
Hey, listen, something can happen to you when you walk out your door, no matter what. Something can happen to you.
You're going to be driving in a car, a big rig. Let me ask you a question.
Are you more asking to get into an accident riding 115 or driving 65? What are the probabilities? Right. Don't ask you.
No, don't say right. I'm saying, what's more likely to happen.
Okay, listen to what you just said. Going 115 miles an hour, Orion 65, what's the probability? 115, the probability is you might get hurt going 115.
But going in a circle, slow as hell, ain't nothing going to happen. There's no chance that thing will roll over.
There's no chance. No, absolutely not.
Not in dirt, no. the wheels would have to get caught on something not on dirt it's an atv all atv means all-terrain vehicle that doesn't mean anything ocho stop oh you're on dirt you're on sand i'm telling you as somebody who's been riding for 30 plus years all they're doing is going in the circle.
Ain't nothing finna happen. Come on now.
Oh, Joe, what chance? I understand what you're talking about, but come on now. According to a government website, over 100,000 people visit emergency rooms annually due to ATV accidents.
Approximately 300 to 400 die in ATV accidents per year. So nothing happens.
Hey, hold on. You should see what those people doing that's dying.
You should see what they doing. You said that nothing can happen on the ATV.
We're talking about the video for context. He's going in a donut in a circle.
Nothing's going to happen. So let me ask you a question.
Going in a donut, have a car ever turned over going in a donut?

What did we talk about? We're talking about the video with Jefferson Jefferson.

I know somebody had an ATV.

I know somebody had an ATV accident.

We're talking about the video with Jefferson Jefferson.

What did we talk about?

Hey, you want to tell him what you were in your ATV accident,

Ash? Going

five miles an hour?

Five. Okay,

10.

Ash don't ask him now to ride no ATVs. Do I have an Asheville or flipped over? Broke a femur, fractured a rib, broke a wrist.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Serious? What she ran into? She flipped over on herself oh she actually she ain't never rode before huh huh yeah her whole life bruh Ash grew up on a farm I'm talking about a ranch let me take it back a ranch 10, Right, right, right. 10,000 acres.
15,000 acre ranch. Right.
She's like, don't you call it a farm. Ask my man.
How many, what? 5,000 head of cattle? 10,000 head of cattle. Is that a big enough ranch for you? Whoa, 10,000? Yeah.
Jesus. No, ask.
But look, ask your cat. Ask your really count count I don't like to put her in anything cause Ash clumsy right she throw her back out getting up out of a chair it's 85 degrees and she got pneumonia so Ash is an outlier so for anything that could probably happen so you know what Ocho, I'm sorry I brought Ash into this.

Ash don't count, but these other people do

count.

Oh man, that was

a good one.

Man, I just

couldn't

I quit. Hey, Ocho, I used to

love basketball, man. I love

basketball, but man, I got this money.

Thank you. I just couldn't I quit I used to love basketball man I love basketball but man I got this money I ain't finished You got your money and you stopped doing what you love No I didn't love it because basketball wasn't going to keep a roof over Mary Porter's head it wasn't going to take care of the the kids.
Now, you tell me that NBA players, they don't be out there playing football. You see them out there playing football? No, they still play basketball in the offseason.
That's their craft, Ocho. You work on your round.
Let me finish. Can I finish? Yes.
You know what basketball players also do in the offseason? What? They get their ass on ATVs. They get on jet skis.
They go have fun on yachts. They travel.
They do all those things. Now, your mindset is a little bit different.
Yeah. And it always has been because the structure and discipline when you always remembering what pays the bills.
Yeah, for sure. You know, everybody doesn't think like that.
That's why in certain situations, especially like this, you're very passionate because if it was you in that position,

I'm not doing that.

I'm not taking that chance.

But you know, Michael Jordan,

he actually used to have a motorcycle club.

He had a motorcycle.

He used to race.

Well, he had a team, a motorcycle team.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he used to ride hard.

He had a crotch rocket.

So, I mean, he was zipping through this.

But he also had, that he

could play pickup basketball

because he had it written into his contract

for the love of the game clause.

So he could play pickup basketball.

At that time, not a whole lot of guys

had it.

But,

I just look, if he gonna ride it,

Thank you. So he can play pickup basketball.
At that time, not a whole lot of guys had it. But I just look, if he going to ride it, I would just put a helmet on.
I would rather be safe than sorry. Yes, sir.
I'd just rather be safe than sorry. That's why I got off that, you know, you and I was talking about road bikes.
Yeah. I always wore a helmet.
Then I just, man, every time I turn around, somebody done got their ass ran over and then nobody stopped

to help them. I said, man, let me get my ass off

this bike.

Uh, Jay, you remember

Jay Williams? The Duke?

Jay. Yeah.

Lost his career. Motorcycle.

Yeah. The Duke.
The number two pick in the

draft. Oh, Joe.
Oh, oh oh oh okay okay yeah motorcycle ah actually our teammate got killed broderick thomas he got got killed on a motorcycle i just look my grandpa they played at and so once uh once uh i got big, it's the boy they call it asphalt. It's your ass and it's your fault.
That's okay. Hey, one thing about asphalt.
I ain't never want one. I ain't never want one.
Right. I can honestly say I've never, ever wanted a motorcycle.
Yeah. I didn't do motorcycles, but, man, down here, them dirt bikes and them four-wheelers, and, you know, we ride in the middle of the street.
It just... Oh, yeah.
Man, they got a motorcycle in their own. New York, Philly, and Miami.
New York, Philly, and Miami. When they come to the dirt bikes.
Yeah. And them Yamaha banshee.
I saw Meek. I saw Meek out there.
It's like that. Every now and once in a while, you catch them in Atlanta and they be like 50 or 100 deep.
Wait, Atlanta too? Yeah, they got a motorcycle club. Oh, I didn't know that.
I didn't know that. And they go...
And the thing is, you need it because all that noise that you can just you can control the traffic.

Because once you get behind them, you can't go nowhere.

No.

They take it up all lanes in a row.

And it's like 40 of them.

Yeah.

But I think that's the you know, that's that's the best way to ride is, you know, to make sure you protect yourself.

Yeah.

Nah.