Nightcap - Hour 2: Ryan Coogler joins the show, Grandmother walks through basketball game, and Reverend asking for too much money!

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Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, the Patriots signed Stephon Diggs three years. Contract worth up to $69 million.
Diggs is 31 years of age, working his way back from a torn ACL.

Speaker 4 But Mike Brabel, it's all in on Diggs saying, yeah, just trying to make sure we're supporting Drake and supporting the football team.

Speaker 4 And again, this is a highly competitive company receiver that's produced throughout his career in multiple ways, play and style. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's got a play strength to him, and he sees that he can play physical, you know, route, craft, good, run after catch, and that's good in the red zone.

Speaker 4 And there's a play style to him that's always appreciated. And that's what we want to continue to enhance and make sure that he's doing things to help us.

Speaker 4 Are you surprised that he got that length of deal, that kind of deal coming off of ACL? No, absolutely not. No, because no, I wasn't surprised because

Speaker 4 they were in need of a playmaker of this magnitude. Even with Stefan Diggs coming off ACL, I understand.
Raybro understands, Robert Kraft understands. And I tweeted it out.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure if people in the chat can pull up the tweet that I said right before he even got signed. When he went on the visit, I said something to the likes of

Speaker 4 one leg, two legs, no legs at all.

Speaker 4 Make sure he leave that building with the deal. Not only I'm talking about the competitor that he is and the ability for him to be able to get open and manipulate defenses,

Speaker 4 even if he doesn't play on the outside, even if he plays on the inside.

Speaker 4 That's a target that Drake may need that he can be relying on during football season. There's enough time

Speaker 4 from now with him rehabbing because I've already seen some drills with Stefan out there working already and I'm seeing how far he's come so far. I saw him squatting, but I was surprised.

Speaker 4 I thought somebody would make a prove it deal. One year.
Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Ocho, one year, $15 million with a chance to make $20, $25 million.
Right.

Speaker 4 But who knows? We haven't seen the intricacies of this deal. It might be a one-year deal, disguised as a three-year deal because we saw T.
Higgins deals, and basically it's a one-year deal. Okay.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 I like it, though. I like it, especially.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 A veteran receiver,

Speaker 4 good to me, to me, some people would probably won't like it. I think a good locker room presence, especially for the receivers, for Drake May,

Speaker 4 being able to converse and learn from diggs

Speaker 4 on some of the things when it comes to the route running and processing information and understanding what he sees and what he may see and how things, you know,

Speaker 4 back to this ATV, Rodney Rogers got paralyzed. You remember Rodney Rogers, the Wake Farrest, great talented player, Denver Nuggets? He got pair.

Speaker 4 I think he was in Phoenix at the time, but he ended up getting paralyzed on one. He was a hell hell of a player, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Rodney Rogers, left-handed, went to Wake Forest. He might have been player of the year in the ACC.
Look that up, Ash. He was a Ocho.
I'm talking about the junk. I mean, he was.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about, he was built like a football player.

Speaker 4 Y'all remember Rodney Rogers? So he looked, Jenny Farr, he looked like Larry Johnson, basically. Oh, he was thinking of he was, oh, no, Ocho.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about a tackle.

Speaker 4 He was that big? Yes, he was ACC player of the year, Ocho, with the ACC, when the Carolinas, and they were loaded back then.

Speaker 4 He was,

Speaker 4 yeah, he was a,

Speaker 4 there's another one guy, uh, Williams, the boxer.

Speaker 4 He ended up beating Paul.

Speaker 4 Talk about Paul. Paul Williams on the motorcycle.
Hey, Paul thought,

Speaker 4 Paul told about, Paul threw about 2,000 punches around, man. Paul was enjoying the watch.
Paul, he was shoot. He was a big ass well to wait.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Big, big, big, big.

Speaker 4 Hey, yeah. I like that.

Speaker 4 I just wish, I wish

Speaker 4 guys, like, yeah, you, yeah.

Speaker 4 I just, just, just guys, just be careful. That's all I'm saying, Ocho, because I don't want to see guys mess up their careers.
Look, have fun.

Speaker 4 My mindset was just different. Once I got that money, I said, you know what? I'm going to make this money as long as I can.

Speaker 4 Now, once my career is over, because your career is going to be over in the mid-30s anyway.

Speaker 4 I can hop on a motorcycle or dirt bike, but I ain't finna mess no money up, right? None,

Speaker 4 I ain't gonna give nothing, like you say, you ain't giving none of it back.

Speaker 4 I ain't giving none of it back because you know, look, basketball player, baseball player, they don't matter what happens, that's money guaranteed.

Speaker 4 We ain't got no guaranteed money on your, yeah,

Speaker 4 hey, uh, one soldo, 760 million,

Speaker 4 750,

Speaker 4 Gary Ron T.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 Shohei, Garon T

Speaker 4 Mookie, Yeah, but everybody, everybody don't want to, hey, everybody don't want to live like that, huh, man. Okay, yeah, everybody's not going to have that mindset.

Speaker 4 You know, people want to be, well, people want to be free. People want to enjoy themselves, you know, without thinking of the negatives of what could happen or what if this happens.

Speaker 4 They just want to enjoy themselves, especially, you know, at this age, these young, especially in this era we in now. It's just different.
There's so many things to do, so many things you can enjoy.

Speaker 4 You know, but listen, I totally agree with you. I understand.
But

Speaker 4 I'd rather them be safe and free

Speaker 4 or doing things, you know, confined in areas that they shouldn't be doing.

Speaker 4 Hey, well, if you feel, if you feel that way,

Speaker 4 like I said, bless their heart.

Speaker 4 That it?

Speaker 4 That ain't me. I don't, we good.

Speaker 4 We're good. All right.
Oh, Joe, we got a very special guest,

Speaker 4 the director, Black Panther, the director of Creed. He's a recipient of four NAACP Image Awards.
He's been nominated for two Academy Awards, the Golden Globe and the Grammy.

Speaker 4 He's the director, as I mentioned, Black Panther and Creed. He has a new movie that's coming out in April called Sinner.

Speaker 4 Here he is, Ryan Koogler. Ryan, how you doing, bro? I'm happy to be with y'all, bro.

Speaker 4 I'm happy that you're with us. Man, I'm feeling good, bro.
Like,

Speaker 4 big fans of y'all coming up.

Speaker 4 I used to play football not as well as y'all.

Speaker 4 But big, big fans of y'all there, and then and then watching y'all transition, man. It's been, it's been beautiful, bro.
Like,

Speaker 4 it always warms my heart when

Speaker 4 I see athletes prolong that career, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Well, let me, well, let me ask you this, Ryan. Okay, you want you like you played football.
Did you have professional or collegiate aspirations? Absolutely, bro. Yeah, absolutely, bro.

Speaker 4 I used to play with Marshawn.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 beast mode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 We from the same neighborhood. So, okay.
Um, you know, I played him, played against him

Speaker 4 in Popworn High School and college.

Speaker 4 Um, I played at Sacramento State. So, so, so, so, oh, so, bro, we both played for the same coach, man.
You remember Coach Steve Mushagin?

Speaker 4 Hey, Coach Moose, yeah, Coach Moose.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Coach Moose got me my scholarship at uh at Sacramento State. Oh, yeah, look at that.
Me scoring a touchdown on Davis right there on UC Davis, man.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's

Speaker 4 wide receiver, Ryan. I was, I played slot.

Speaker 4 I was, you cooked him, you cooking him.

Speaker 4 Not like y'all, bro, but

Speaker 4 I paid for school. You know what I'm saying? I'll pay for that.
Right, right. You feel me? Yeah, they are going.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And that's dope, man. And Coach Moose is good, man.

Speaker 4 So let me ask you this. Okay, you go to college, and you have a nice little college career.
When did you decide to say, you know what? Film is going to be the direction of that goalhead.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Brosh, a great question. So, so

Speaker 4 I got my first scholarship to a school called St. Mary's College.
And it's known as a basketball school.

Speaker 4 We used to have a football team.

Speaker 4 And then they dropped the program after my freshman year.

Speaker 4 I played quite a bit that season. Like

Speaker 4 I was returning kicks.

Speaker 4 You know, I was playing. I was playing Received.
I played a little bit of DB that year. And

Speaker 4 so I got some more scholarship offers. But while I was there,

Speaker 4 there was a woman named Rosemary Graham who taught a creative writing class. And she read something I wrote.
And she was like, hey, man, you should think about writing screenplays.

Speaker 4 You know, my girlfriend at the time, she's now my wife, she bought me a little software that I could write screenplays. But I fell in love with it, man.

Speaker 4 So by the time I transitioned to Sacramento State, I was doing it on the side, taking writing classes and shooting short films with my homies.

Speaker 4 And then I applied to film school in 2007. It's crazy, bro, because

Speaker 4 I was doing real well going into my senior year

Speaker 4 and I got an injury doing 7 on 7 where a walk-on, a cat was trying to walk on the team was over eager and he uh he caught me on a post and broke my zygomatic arch right here

Speaker 4 so it was it was i was eight weeks off where i couldn't lift i couldn't do anything um and i and during that time i realized like i need to i need to put this application in for film school man football is is is is fleeting you know what i'm saying um so i applied to usc film school and i got accepted i found out i got accepted like in the middle of the season and and right around that time man i started to find myself my mind wondering when i'll be on the field i'm thinking about something else I'm thinking about

Speaker 4 a movie I want to make. I'm thinking about being on the set.
You know, that shit is dangerous when you're doing that. It is.

Speaker 4 Football, you got to be all in. And I was kind of locked on new.
You know what I mean? Right.

Speaker 4 That's dope, man. I want to talk.
Listen, I'm a movie head.

Speaker 4 I enjoy films. I enjoy the arts and the crafts of it.
I enjoy getting lost in character. I get very passionate when I talk about stuff like this.
So I watched the trailer for sinners.

Speaker 4 And to me, it seemed like a unique blend of

Speaker 4 supernatural action, you know, mystery and psychological theory. How did you approach this genre

Speaker 4 in bending concept? And what was it about this story that made you want to tell it? Man, that's a beautiful question, man. So, so, so I had an uncle who was from Mississippi.

Speaker 4 You know, I'm from Auckland. Yeah.
But I had an uncle who was from Mississippi, and he was like the oldest member of my family, the oldest male member of my family. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 So whatever I kicked in with him, he want to listen to all Bulls records and drink all kind of whiskey. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 And he passed away while I was working on Creed in 2015. And I never really, really reckoned with his passion.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I would put blues records on to think about him. And that was how I got the idea for this, man.

Speaker 4 Coming off of Black Panther was a real long movie that would kind of forever. We dealt a lot of tragedies,

Speaker 4 a lot of misfortune and dealt with the COVID

Speaker 4 situation.

Speaker 4 So for me, I wanted to make something that was quick, but also something that was very much very unique, very profound. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 And I wanted to to play in a

Speaker 4 in a genre where I can incorporate music. But I also wanted to make something that was a little bit that was a little scary, man.
Cause, you know, black folks, we like that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 We like

Speaker 4 and talking at the screen, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Something that

Speaker 4 exactly. You know, and I think, I think we have some incredible filmmakers that have capitalized on the medium, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, think of Jordan.
Jordan P. Yeah, but get out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, but spice not his thing in that genre. Need the costs, nothing in that genre.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know, so I was fired up about it, bro.
And,

Speaker 4 you know, truthfully, bro, like, it was a chance for me being a product of a great migration, you know what I'm saying,

Speaker 4 being born and raised on the West Coast to try to get back to the South and

Speaker 4 embrace that, you know what I'm saying? Embrace that part of my ancestry. You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 4 I had the most amazing time making this movie, bro.

Speaker 4 How long?

Speaker 4 I'm just curious. How long does it take to make a movie in general?

Speaker 4 I don't mean this one

Speaker 4 in specifically, but I'm just saying in general, what's the timetable like? That's a great question. So this one we made relatively quickly, but

Speaker 4 it can go from anywhere from two to four years.

Speaker 4 This one we're able to make in one year. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's essentially, bro, it's essentially like a,

Speaker 4 imagine a season, season and a half in football. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Because it takes you six months to shoot, six months to a year to shoot it, and then you have to edit it. It takes you another six months to a year to edit it, correct?

Speaker 4 Yeah, man, and that's not including writing the script because I write the script too, right?

Speaker 4 Okay, sometimes you got to shop the movie around, you know what I'm saying, right? Right. Um, you know, uh, uh, so I can tell you how long my movies all took.

Speaker 4 So, this is my fifth movie that I wrote and directed. Okay, Fruville.
Um, it took

Speaker 4 classic

Speaker 4 classic.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. I said that, man.
But it took me, it took me about a year to make that one. Okay.
Um, you know, uh, uh, Cree,

Speaker 4 we shot that. We started.
So, Creed, we are Cree was was about a year and a half. You know what I'm saying? Like in a half of that year, we were just trying to convince Dallon that it was worth doing.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? And

Speaker 4 rightfully so.

Speaker 4 He wanted to make sure that we were serious about it and make sure that it would work for him.

Speaker 4 And then we shot in January. We put the film out in like November.
That was a fashion. Black Panther took about two years.
Started working on that in 2016, put it on 2018.

Speaker 4 Black Connor Forever was like a, was like a four-year movie. You know what I'm saying? Wow.
Because I wrote one script. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 chatwick passed away i didn't know you you know i didn't even know he was sick so they had to rewrite that you know we got going um the pandemic slowed it down quite a bit and then you know my uh my lovely actress got injured so we had to shut down for a little bit you know what i mean right and then we put that one out so so i wanted to make something fast after that after that you know four years on on one movie you feel me um right but i was blessed man that to to to be able to make something that uh that i'm so proud of man like super you know really proud of this man i can't wait to show it to y'all man i think y'all gonna dig it man listen i'm i know know I'm a digger.

Speaker 4 When you walk the trailer, for me, when it comes to anything that you do, whether you're an athlete, you have to be a special athlete that puts butts in the seats.

Speaker 4 When you're a comedian, you have to be a comedian that has stage presence to always keep the crowd engaged. When I walk the trailer

Speaker 4 and it catches you, when it catches you right away, I don't know who did the editing, I don't know who did the trailer, but I'm telling you, right away, it catches you and it keeps you and it holds you.

Speaker 4 And then it's like it's an appetizer, but it ain't enough. It ain't enough.
Because I want to see what's next. So now I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 4 And just, I'm very passionate and enthusiastic when it comes to movies, bro. I've been a fan of yours for a long time.
All your work, everything you've done. That's why I can't shut up right now.

Speaker 4 I'm going to tell you something crazy. Oh, Joe, for real, bro.
I'm going to tell you something crazy. We met before, bro.

Speaker 4 We met at the, at the, uh, at the Tribeca Film Festival. It was the first film festival I ever got into.
Spike did a movie called Kobe Doing Work.

Speaker 4 and espn has the world premiere of it bro and i and i and i and i saw you in there and i went over here and shook your hand bro you know what i'm saying just just on the strength you know just being a fan of what you do on the football field bro i was always doing it the game bro you know what i'm saying like what y'all what y'all was doing bro over there in cincinnati man when it was when it was when it was when it was when it was you and tj and the ways bro yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying hey like like like like just just how just just the the the the precision of the route running bro the confidence you know you know what i'm saying both of y'all had that both of y'all had the mental game too bro i remember i remember i remember shanning bro when he used to be mic'd up

Speaker 4 study your movies a lot of your movies you got michael b jordan now michael b jordan in this role he plays a dual role he's stacking because i'm like i was like hold on

Speaker 4 they look like this this look like michael b jordan playing both of these both

Speaker 4 come on now hold on i had to rewind and look even closer i said see it is yeah so what is it about mike that you love casting him in your movies if i'm not mistaken he was in fruit mail he was in fruit male too

Speaker 4 real station yeah

Speaker 4 yeah he's been in all of them look bro like like with what you'll find

Speaker 4 um it's chemistry man you know what i'm saying it's it's a head coach and a quarterback it's a quarterback and a receiver you know like like you get you you develop a shorthand where um

Speaker 4 where you save time. You know what I'm saying? You establish a tone

Speaker 4 for the rest of the crew.

Speaker 4 um and and we're not the first ones to do it man usually when you see when you see filmmakers work they usually have spike and denzel oh yeah man i mean big time spike and denzel tony scott and denzel yep um you know square saze he had a had a thing with with the niro and caprio he rekindled it with leo exactly exactly right you know it's it's a it's it's it's it's hopeful man and and and mike has a you know mike mike has a uh has a very amazing work ethic you know what i'm saying like he's always willing to go always trying to push himself himself.

Speaker 4 He doesn't want to rest on his laurels. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 And I can rock with that, bro. So, so, you know, I'll put him in every movie if I can.

Speaker 4 He'll always have a role if I'm working. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 And let me ask you this, right?

Speaker 4 How did you come up with the name sinners? Why the name Sinners? Man, that's a great question, bro. We found that late, man.
Like, for a long time, that movie was just called Grilled Cheese.

Speaker 4 It was a working title. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So you pulled up in

Speaker 4 Louisiana, you know, this past summer and said, hey, man, we're grilled cheese shooting at that,

Speaker 4 that would have brought you to our movie. Okay.

Speaker 4 You know, and the story behind that name was I've been cooking these long, these long, drawn out, crazy meals. I wanted to make something quick and fast.
I knew it would take.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? So that's how we came up with that. But for sinners, you know, it was a collaboration between us and the studio trying to figure out the right name for the movie.

Speaker 4 And we realized that

Speaker 4 that line, you know, that that word was said so many times throughout the script.

Speaker 4 You know, it deals with blues music and its relationship with the church you know like a lot of times the best blues singers will come from gospel you know what i'm saying you learn that they you know a lot of times like daddies was pastors you know what i mean and and they and they singing up they singing music about drinking and bumping and grinding and it's in conflict with how they was raised you know right yeah um so that so that dynamic was one that we were really that we were really um you know once we realized like that like like it was like oh man it was always a name it should always been called that you know

Speaker 4 but this movie but this

Speaker 4 trust no one, because this movie has a lot to do with paranoia.

Speaker 4 Absolutely, bro. Like, I mean, look,

Speaker 4 it's, you know, it's dealing with

Speaker 4 black culture, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 a lot of folks don't know that, like, that, I know, I would argue that Blues music is the most important contribution. that America has made to the global pop culture.

Speaker 4 Everything originated off of that. Everything comes from that.
And when you do the research, it really came from this one specific area of Mississippi. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 At that time when Bulls was created,

Speaker 4 it was a very hard place to be black. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 people were trying to affirm that humanity, affirm that dignity at a time

Speaker 4 when

Speaker 4 it was very difficult. And people were trying to keep them separate.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 And for me, that experience kind of breathes a level of paranoia. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 When you can't be out after the dark in certain towns, you got to, you know, where you know where everybody knows everybody. So when somebody new shows up, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Or somebody who's been gone a long time, you know, it's a little bit of,

Speaker 4 you know, you might look at them a certain way. You know, I mean, how did y'all come up, man? Did y'all come from places where everybody knew everybody? You can tell I all started at the job.

Speaker 4 I'm from a small town. There were 3,500 people with two traffic lights.

Speaker 4 We pretty much knew everybody. Now, obviously, there were people that would come back from New York or Chicago and Detroit that I wasn't familiar with, but I knew their family.

Speaker 4 And after a while, they end up staying. So

Speaker 4 we were cool with them also. You said something very interesting because everybody talks about the Mississippi Delta, the Delta Blues.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 And this film, this film deals with a lot of brotherhood, loyalty, fate. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 You did a great job of working

Speaker 4 and putting all that together. And it came together.
From the trailer for what I've saw, I haven't been to the movie. movie, I haven't been to the movie since the pandemic.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna go check this one out because I'm interested to see how you tie this thing all together. Now, I saw the two-minute trailer, but I want to see you tie this thing together for 90 minutes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, me, I'm proud of it, man. And, like,

Speaker 4 look, another reason I think you're gonna diggy, man, is your relationship with your brother Sterling, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Yeah, like, whenever I hear y'all, whenever I hear y'all talk, I gotta imagine in y'all's neighborhood, y'all was known. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Like, you know, like in that, so these twins, you know, it's it's stack and smoke. Yeah, smoke and stack.
It's an archetype, right?

Speaker 4 Like every neighborhood always, I already been here, had a set of twins that everybody knew that was kind of notorious. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 we plan on that.

Speaker 4 That relationship between the brothers, man, what makes them similar? What makes them different?

Speaker 4 I think Mike just did a beautiful job with it, man. I think you're really going to enjoy it.
Anybody who got that type of relationship, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Got a big brother, got a little brother,

Speaker 4 gonna really feel this movie, I think, on a different level. I like it.

Speaker 4 I got one one more question, man. After creating something like this, something that's so bold, so different, and you're pushing boundaries, you know, with most of your work and your craft.

Speaker 4 And again, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to harp on it because I never had a chance to actually tell you. Now I do.
I'm going to make sure I let you know I'm a huge fan of everything you've done.

Speaker 4 And I'm really, really excited for this. But do you see yourself continue to push boundaries with more genre films? Or

Speaker 4 just, I don't want to be too nosy, but what's next?

Speaker 4 We got another Creed coming. If we do got another Creed coming, I want to shoot Michael real quick.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 I could be like the final boss. Yeah, we got to be.
We got another Creed coming for sure.

Speaker 4 Oh, let me, let me. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Mike's going to direct that. So, so, yeah, like, like, you know, absolutely, bro.
Like, I think, I think

Speaker 4 we love to make something happen for you. And, but the other, the other piece for me is like, um,

Speaker 4 you know, I want to work a long time, bro. Like,

Speaker 4 I want to make all types of stuff, man. And I do love working in the genre space.

Speaker 4 This is my first movie with all-not horror elements. And bro, I can tell you it's very addictive.

Speaker 4 The idea of doing something else

Speaker 4 that isn't this much fun,

Speaker 4 it kind of frightens me a little bit, man.

Speaker 4 But we'll see, man, we'll put this out to the world and see how people respond. And then we'll go from there.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 I'm definitely not closing the door on doing more genre work, sure, man.

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Speaker 4 You know what, Ryan, when I look at it and I think about like, you did Fruit Veil, you've done creed you've done black panther now you're in this genre it's kind of like spike because spike has kind of been all over the place he's done malcolm x he's done hurricane he did devil in blue dress he's did the harlem blues he's done inside man he's done uh uh uh uh

Speaker 4 um i think mano i think he did mano no that was that was originally i think he did 25th hour 25th hour yeah so he's kind of been is that kind of the direction like look i don't want y'all to hold me in there and say oh he only does if this a comedy this is ryan if if it's something to do with marvel or black panther this got to be ryan you want to be like multifaceted you don't want to be tied down or pigeonholed or tight calf for any particular type of movie right that's absolutely correct man spike spike's a big big hero of mine man a mentor um you know same with same with john singleton you know what i'm saying yep um big big hero mentor um and then stepping outside of our art you know our community right a lot of filmmakers like steven solderberg you know what i'm saying where you never know you never know what they're gonna do next right you but you gotta you gotta um you know it's gonna be quality you know you know what i'm saying like like like if if and i do definitely want to continue to push myself but also push the medium forward man you know what i'm saying like it's it's it's a blessing to be able to to to to work in a space where you get to work on things that are fresh work on things that haven't been done before you know um for instance with this film you know this is the first time that that imax camera has been combined with a with a ultra television lens so it's the same it's the same camera work um same camera package that was used on quin tarantino's film the hateful eight um yeah oh that was great yeah yeah that was good combine that that was good with the traditional i max film camera first time ever you know what i'm saying so so so getting it getting a chance to break new ground and do that with with you know with people of color on the screen you know what i mean in a story set in the mississippi delta man it's a it's a great honor to be able to do something like that you know you know what i mean and and if and it helps me to to be motivated helps me to stay sharp you know um i'm getting to work with people who i've been working with for a long time man it's just amazing man that's

Speaker 4 I don't want to be too presumptuous of this, but I saw something, and it seems like I forget the two brothers, but it's two brothers, Ocho.

Speaker 4 And one of them might be cast. I want to throw my hat in for T'Challa.
You know, I want to throw my hat in. I'll just throw it.
Hold on, man. Hold on.
What you doing? Hold on. Hey, hey, fine.

Speaker 4 I want to throw my hat in to me. Hey, man, get it in there.
Hey, hey, man, we can talk about it, man. Hey.

Speaker 4 How you going to take Mostilo? Can I get my role first at Creed?

Speaker 4 Okay. Okay.
Oh, you okay? You want to be one of the fighters that Creed fight? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, oh,

Speaker 4 I got an extensive background in combat sports, so it would be perfect to be able to transition. So I ain't really got to play no character.
I can just be myself. Hey popping that thing as oh,

Speaker 4 I feel you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Aldis Hodge. That's his name.
Aldis Hodge. Oh, oh, Aldis Hodge.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, he, hey, they had him, they had him already in the uniform. I was like, okay.
Yeah, he definitely could, he could definitely pass for T'Chala. Yeah.
He could. He could, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 No, all this, big shout out to the artist, man. He's incredible.
You know, he make watches, too, bro. Does he? But he

Speaker 4 straight up knows how to make watches, bro. Right.

Speaker 4 Like a genius, bro. You know what I'm saying? Ryan,

Speaker 4 as a kid, were you in the comics? Were you a superhero fan? Yeah, big time. I had an older cousin.
You know, I'm the oldest of three boys, so I didn't have no big brothers.

Speaker 4 I've always been looking for one. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I had an older cousin who was, who was, um, who was seven years older than me, who was a big comic head and i got into him just because he i thought he was cool you feel me so i right so that's when i started reading him but i i did i did always read him like um

Speaker 4 i took a break from a little bit when i when i got serious about sports right when we used to watch the cartoons with how you but it was you know it was it was all school in ball for like you know from i would say from like from like eighth grade like ninth grade maybe to uh to to to my senior year at college and when i went back to film school i got back into him you know what i mean do you collect them

Speaker 4 man that's a great question bro.

Speaker 4 Honestly,

Speaker 4 I do, I do, man. Like, like, not, but not, but not actively, bro.

Speaker 4 Like, like, what happens now is like, I'll go to Comic-Con for work and I'll go, they got, they got a, um, they got basically a floor, you know, where you can, where you can go, where you can go buy any trade, trade, buy, sale, yeah.

Speaker 4 I'll go in there, hit the floor, and cop one or something, you know what I mean? But it's been a while since I've been in the comic book store, man. I'm not, I'm not gonna hold you.

Speaker 4 Give me your top five superheroes.

Speaker 4 Shit, all right, all right, I'm gonna go fast.

Speaker 4 I'm not gonna already think it.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna go to Charlotte number one.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 And then I'm gonna go.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna go Wolverine.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Can I put villains in it? You can.

Speaker 4 I got Magnio number three.

Speaker 4 You got who, Magneto? Magneto. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I got Magnio number three.

Speaker 4 I got, all right,

Speaker 4 I'm going to go deep cut. I'm going to go deep cut.

Speaker 4 Roar Sharch from Watchmen.

Speaker 4 Okay. I know Watchmark.
Raw Shark. Roar Shark.
Okay. Watch me.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 I'm going to go.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go Rogue.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 That's a good one. Yeah.
Yeah. Rogue is guys.
Roll like the,

Speaker 4 you know, know, you know, you know, take our glove off, touch, touch, you take your powers, knock you all. I mean, that's.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's pretty, that's pretty solid.

Speaker 4 I'm surprised you really didn't go with a lot of the old, like, like, Superman. Batman, Batman ain't no superhero.
Batman, they got, he can't do ish without that.

Speaker 4 Bro, bro, Batman, Batman, Batman was a dog for me, though, bro.

Speaker 4 Like, like, the fact that I'm saying this without saying Batman is crazy because, cause, cause that, that was, that was, that was, man, that was the one for us because they had that, they had to, they had the animated series.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Um, and we used to mainline.

Speaker 4 i had a homie from fresno who played db incredible defensive back he a coach now um man me and him during fall camp bro we we went half on the um on the dvd pack and during them double days we would ride back to his girl house and watch and watch the movie between between dough days bro

Speaker 4 make a little show make a little should make a little food for us bro we on the couch bro take taking it taking it back to uh eighth grade with it you know and that's the that's live that's live

Speaker 4 so let

Speaker 4 Black Panther 3. How long we got to wait? Not long.

Speaker 4 Yeah, not long. I mean, there've been a lot of rumors circulating that

Speaker 4 Denzel gonna be in it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't know. That's what the word in the street.
You know, I have a heads up.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 talking. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I've been dying to work with Denzel, man.

Speaker 4 And I'm hoping we can make that happen.

Speaker 4 But I got every intention on working with him in that movie.

Speaker 4 And and he as long as as long as as long as he interested man we we it's gonna happen um wow but but but you know he he a living legend man and and

Speaker 4 a great and a great mentor for so many of us you know like like it's just he just he all about he all about looking out for us now man you know what i'm saying and and

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 you know what it was an example bro for how to how to how to live man he got his family around him his you know his his children yeah man like everybody

Speaker 4 he's been with pauletta for 40 plus years Oh, she's John David. John David used to train with me in Atlanta.
I had retired, but he was down at Morehouse.

Speaker 4 And the trainer that trained me, bring him to the track. We, you know,

Speaker 4 tell him how to do certain things. So

Speaker 4 I've known that family for 20, that was in, I retired, so like 20 plus years. Yeah.
So, and Denzel is great.

Speaker 4 His wife, Pauletta, John David, man,

Speaker 4 they're unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 R.C., I just seen Denzel. I wasn't able to actually,

Speaker 4 I was able to let him know I was there, but he wasn't taking no visitors. It didn't matter.
It didn't matter who you were. I was able to see him last week in New York.
I went to see Othello. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he don't play when he's on Broadway, bro. No, no, no, no.
When he's on Broadway, he's in a different zone, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How was it playing?

Speaker 4 Oh, man, beautiful, beautiful. Listen,

Speaker 4 I took drama. I took drama in high school.
So that's why I still have a love for drama and the arts and theater and dance. So I really, I really enjoyed it.
Excuse

Speaker 4 huh

Speaker 4 come on man start playing right and listen

Speaker 4 you already know because you can hey you can hear me talk when i talk about certain things you already know it's something i really like now hey hey why you why you hey why you why you call when he said dance though that was when he that was when he got up in there on you

Speaker 4 hold on this is this i this is how you know i love dance too my

Speaker 4 rc i did i did um the river dance i did ballet when i was playing yeah i just left i just left new orleans last week i went to see Alvanelli, man, for the umpteen time since 1988 when my grandma took me to go see him in 88 at the Gussman Theater.

Speaker 4 I love it, bro.

Speaker 4 Hey, come on.

Speaker 4 Hey.

Speaker 4 I want to go see him. I'm going to see him.
I haven't been to a whole lot of Broadway. I saw.

Speaker 4 I saw Samuel Jackson when he played Dr. King.
Okay. I might not get there.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Broadway is different. Yeah.
It is so different than going to the, it's so different than going to an actual movie. Yeah.
I don't know if it, you know what I'm saying, no joke.

Speaker 4 I mean, you like you just went to a, but to sit there and to see, I'm like, damn, this is amazing. Yeah.
Yeah. It's no joke, bro.

Speaker 4 It's a true actor's medium. You know what I'm saying? Yes.
Like, like, like, whereas, whereas in film, you know, like, like, it's hard to be a filmmaker's medium.

Speaker 4 They'll say television is a writer's medium.

Speaker 4 Like, like, like, that, that stage is an actor's medium bro they got nothing to save them you know what i'm saying they just they just they just up there you know what i mean it's no you can't blue me in you know what i'm saying like like it's just it's just

Speaker 4 you bro and that's what denzel says denzel says he's a he's a a a a theatrical actor that went to the screen say he cut his teeth on Broadway. And he takes that.

Speaker 4 He says, some people are staged and they come to Broadway. I was Broadway that

Speaker 4 went to the screen.

Speaker 4 It's interesting too, bro, because like, cause like, what a lot of people don't, what a lot of people don't understand too, is like, um, it's like, it's like the culture of Broadway, you know, like, like, um, very similar to,

Speaker 4 you know, very similar to basketball, right?

Speaker 4 Like, if you, if you, if you, you know, like basketball is very culturally ingrained in the United States, so much so that if you go professional, if you go watch a professional basketball game anywhere in the world, Most of the players is going to be from the states.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 If you go overseas to Italy and watch a game there or overseas in germany you know what i'm saying like you'll you'll you'll see a lot of players here and with that stage work

Speaker 4 you know it's so culturally ingrained in the uk

Speaker 4 you know you know what i mean like it's it's a part of that culture they they they about uh uh uh the stage right right the way we are about basketball here you know you know what i'm saying it's in every school it's in every you know so you see so you'll see these british actors getting shipped out all over the place, man.

Speaker 4 They ain't on every role. You know what I mean? They ain't on every,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 white British actors, uh, uh, black British actors, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and for me, coming up, bro, um,

Speaker 4 the first time I hit, I hit a Broadway play

Speaker 4 and really, and really seen, and really

Speaker 4 seen somebody get down, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was, it was, it was like,

Speaker 4 you know, like, like, I danned there, wish I had been exposed to it earlier, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I might have been doing that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Well, hey, even if I just get a cat meo, I could be, I could be Umboku's brother.

Speaker 4 We got you, bro. Hey, hey, if y'all are winning, man, hey,

Speaker 4 hey.

Speaker 4 I could be Umboku's brother or something.

Speaker 4 You put your boy in there. I'm coming down there.
I'm coming. I'm coming with it, Ryan.

Speaker 4 Hey, I'm with it, man.

Speaker 4 I'm with it, man. Yeah,

Speaker 4 y'all got such great chemistry, man.

Speaker 4 When I watch y'all, bro. Yeah.
It's evident, man.

Speaker 4 I appreciate that. Center arriving theaters April 18th, directed by, written by Ryan Kugler.

Speaker 4 He written such Fruit Bell Station,

Speaker 4 Black Panther, Wakanda Forever,

Speaker 4 Creed. And now he's with this one.
Sinners arrives in theaters, April 18th. Ryan, thank you for giving us a little bit of your time.
Thank you for the trailer. We're going to support you.
Hey, chat.

Speaker 4 Make sure we go out here and support our brother Ryan Kugler. Hey, he's doing big things for the community.
He's doing big things for the culture. Yes, sir.
We got to make sure we keep him up.

Speaker 4 We're going to lift him up and we're going to keep him up there. Ryan, thank you so much for your time.
Appreciate it. Hey, I'll see you down the road.
Man, I appreciate y'all, man. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Thank you, boss, man.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 Oh, yo, we're going to get in the movie, don't y'all.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, hey, we're going, hey, we're going to be famous.

Speaker 4 y'all off the chain, man. Y'all take

Speaker 4 all right, boss.

Speaker 4 Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, that was all right, babe.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, hey,

Speaker 4 hey,

Speaker 4 you ain't know I took ballet. You know, I took drama in high school?

Speaker 4 And you gotta look at the stand.

Speaker 4 Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 This is why I'm so into it is I needed to be eligible to play football. So, you know, how you just be taking classes, you really ain't got no business taking.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I took, I took drama just to be eligible to play because I need the credits. I end up like, hey, listen, I end up liking the damn class.

Speaker 4 And now, even to this day, still to this day, anytime Broadway plays, come to the Adrian R Center down here in Miami, I'm there.

Speaker 4 I listen, I haven't missed nothing from Chicago, the Mulan Rouge, the Wicked, the Cats. I've seen it all.
The Lion King.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, I love that, man. But I need to, I need to, I need to, I need to go see Denzel.

Speaker 4 hey you you'll love it i'm not sure when you're in new york again um but i might just go it just might go on my own

Speaker 4 yeah you you you got to go you're going to love it you're going to love it but it was great man ryan is unbelievable you know we communicate a little bit uh

Speaker 4 uh he's been wanting to come on he said man i didn't want to come on he said give me on something you know i come on club cheche i'll come on nightcap i just want to hey i just want to chill he said man i love what you do i love you and oh cho man y'all hey i love how you and him play off each other And so I was like, hey, we're going to, I was glad we were able to get this and to make this make this work.

Speaker 4 I actually met the guy that plays Umboku in the

Speaker 4 Black Panther. I actually met him at where I go get my nails, or Salon Republic in

Speaker 4 LA. I actually met him at the

Speaker 4 get in his car.

Speaker 4 Took a picture with him and everything. He's a cool dude.
Ocho, 464-pound D-tackle Desmond Watson could be the largest draft pick in NFL history.

Speaker 4 His weight comes with a massive six foot six inch frame.

Speaker 4 Watson had his pro day workout. He benched 225 36 times.
That's more than any player mustered at this year's combine. And he ran the 40 in under six seconds, a 5'93, and he had a 25-inch vertical.

Speaker 4 Aaron Gibson.

Speaker 4 No, Aaron Gibson only weighed 405

Speaker 4 from Wisconsin. Hold on.

Speaker 4 Hey, can you do me a favor real quick? Yes. For me, because I can't see, I can't visually see him.
So I'm listening to the numbers you're giving me. Is he bigger than Sam Adams?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is he bigger than what Sam Adams was or bigger than Gilbert Brown? Yeah. Hell yeah.
He outweighed him damn near by 100.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 He 464, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Well, what you think Gilbert Brown, what you think Gilbert Brown was? Like 365, 370 at the top.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 can he move? He ran 5'93.

Speaker 4 I mean, move in the position that he actually plays. Hey, think about it.
He'll D-tackle. He ain't going from A gap to B gap.
Oh, he's clogging up Stacey. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, somebody in the AFC East needs to drive. I mean, the NFC East stop the

Speaker 4 push. Put his ass

Speaker 4 over the center. Say, look here, you got the guard.
You got the guard in the

Speaker 4 center.

Speaker 4 list

Speaker 4 listen cincinnati cincinnati we need help on defense and obviously we can start at the defense we can start right there on that defensive line yeah bring him on down there clog that clog that thing up if i'm not mistaken i think at one point in time he was almost 500 pounds wasn't it did he lose did he lose like 40 50 pounds ash

Speaker 4 uh uh desmond watson

Speaker 4 I think I think I heard him talking about it that he was like almost 500, like really close to 500 at one point in time.

Speaker 4 Oh, they go. Hey, listen, depending on where you go, they're gonna get that weight up off of him.

Speaker 4 They're gonna get some of it up off of him.

Speaker 4 Hey, at some point, hey, Ocho, I mean, you might get him down. You ain't getting him under 400.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, listen,

Speaker 4 unless you put him on that zippic, yeah, get him a little,

Speaker 4 you put him on that zippic.

Speaker 4 That's the only way you're gonna get up on it. Hey, Ozippic, semaglutide, trisepatide.

Speaker 4 That's a

Speaker 4 that's a

Speaker 4 and at 464. Hey,

Speaker 4 now I see that hey,

Speaker 4 he can't he can't play in the league if he tried this diet. I've seen somebody over 400 pounds and they got tried this diet and they was under 200

Speaker 4 crack

Speaker 4 and a homeboy. Hey, he's about 410.

Speaker 4 That pipe had him drawn up. He was under 200 by one second.

Speaker 4 Hey, man, you shout out, man.

Speaker 4 Be out of with you, Joe.

Speaker 4 But I hope old boy, I hope old boy gets an opportunity to play.

Speaker 4 I think somebody gonna give him an opportunity. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. This is the other

Speaker 4 cut today, hey, man. We don't,

Speaker 4 we cut the name on everything. Hey, man, he on that zip it.

Speaker 4 Hey, I did, I just listen, I love, I love love the number. I hear the numbers.

Speaker 4 It sounds staggering. It sounds intimidating, but I need to see what you look like when you turn the film on.

Speaker 4 Are you disruptive? Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 4 Are you LSU offensive tackle Will Campbell has something to say about people scrutinized?

Speaker 4 They call it T-Rex.

Speaker 4 For two years, nobody had any measurements on me, and nobody said anything about my play. So now all of a sudden, arm links decide if I'm a good player or not.
I think it's big.

Speaker 4 The Mark Drafts have them going somewhere between a number 10 to the Bears or number 11 to the 49ers. Listen, I know, don't listen to that stuff, and I hope he doesn't.

Speaker 4 Young boy, don't worry, don't worry about that stuff. Man, listen, they will nickpick at everything and find issues with small hands, small shoulders.
I mean, small feet.

Speaker 4 I mean, it really had nothing to do with the game of football. When you turn the film on, what are you doing with those T-Rex arms of yours? That's all that matters.

Speaker 4 That's all that matters. Come on.

Speaker 4 When you turn the film on,

Speaker 4 what are you doing?

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 he's good. He's going early.
He's going to be off the board.

Speaker 4 He's going to be a great player for somebody, man. He's going to be a great player for somebody.
Oh, you're going to check this out. Granny said, tap your little basketball game.

Speaker 4 Ocho, watch this video.

Speaker 4 What is that?

Speaker 4 The game going.

Speaker 4 Who is that walking across the court? That's Granny.

Speaker 4 Granny had to get to the other side.

Speaker 4 Granny said, I ain't walking around no court. That's too far.
I'm walking right through.

Speaker 4 Listen, this is visual representation of I don't give a, you know what. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't give a damn.

Speaker 4 I'm walking right through. She ain't got, she ain't, she ain't got, she don't know no better.
Granny, speed up or nothing. Hey, that's funny.
Hey, that was funny.

Speaker 4 I didn't know what that was wrong across that screen. That's Granny.

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Speaker 4 Ojo.

Speaker 4 Yo,

Speaker 4 we got to talk about this.

Speaker 4 Marvin Sapp is receiving backlash. He locked the doors of the church until they received 40K in donations.
Let's take a listen to this, Ocho. Okay, come on.

Speaker 48 And they understand the cost

Speaker 48 that is involved.

Speaker 48 There's 1,000 of you. I said close them doors.

Speaker 4 Ushers, close the doors. Close the doors close the doors

Speaker 48 it's a thousand that's watching online

Speaker 48 this is a small seed if I get a thousand online to give this if I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this that's forty thousand dollars tonight

Speaker 48 now everyone up here we've all sold and seeded but I need everyone standing up here with us with me to plant a seed of $100

Speaker 48 because again it costs to sit up here and this is what I need you to do If you're giving electronically or even if you're giving tangibly,

Speaker 4 I'm going to have y'all come to the altar and give it.

Speaker 48 Because I need to see a thousand people.

Speaker 48 Bring them baskets. I want the baskets up here.
I want to see the folk.

Speaker 4 Y'all start moving. Y'all can bring it right now.
Come, come, come, come, come.

Speaker 48 A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand people need to give $20.
A thousand people online. need to give $20.
This is easy, Saints.

Speaker 4 Hey, well, that's always been the church. That's always been the church.
But see, they used to choose faith.

Speaker 4 That's always been the church. I grew up in a church.
You know, that offering play to come around about changing your tithe, man. They said, but the Lord said, give what you can.

Speaker 4 He didn't put no number on it. Oh, no, no.

Speaker 4 He said, when you tithe,

Speaker 4 10% of your earnest, man. Yes.
10% of your earnestness. And he will say in Malachi, I think it's through Malachi 3, 8 through 11.

Speaker 4 He said, when a man rob God, he answers the question because he already know what you're going to do. He said, Yeah, where would I rob you? He said, in tithes and an offering.

Speaker 4 Oh, he said, Bring your tithes to the storehouse, and I'll open up the windows of heaven and pour you out of blessings that you will not be able to receive. That's not what he's saying.

Speaker 4 Now, he ain't telling me Jack Maid to be coming up here talking about a see what they're preaching is prosperity. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir. See, that's why I'm going to the ministry.
Come on,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 Hold on.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 I'll pass the plate around. I'll plastic the collection plate.
Now, look here.

Speaker 4 Hey, don't put no change in the collection plate. God don't like noise.
Yeah, dog. God don't like noise.

Speaker 4 Paper.

Speaker 4 Listen, I need going to the back. Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Listen, listen.

Speaker 4 Hey, you know, Mama sat now. The church, the church, the church, the church, that's part of the building fund.
The church needs new windows. You ain't going to tell me the church

Speaker 4 got me.

Speaker 4 The Pope Paul or the part, oh, he needs a role. Oh, he need a, he needs a jet.
Oh, he needs a Rolls Royce. He need a Bentley.
Yeah. Yeah.
He ain't going to have a better.

Speaker 4 He ain't going to have, if I'm working harder, he ain't going to have a better car than me. Not that I'm donating to.
Yeah. Hey,

Speaker 4 one thing you got to understand now.

Speaker 4 I've never been in the pulpit. I've never been a preacher, but I do understand the work that come behind it.

Speaker 4 I do understand the studying and the hours and all the stuff that they have to go through when it comes to running the church and being a preacher.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm not going to sit up here and preach because that's not me. I am not going to play with the Lord like that.
But in the Bible,

Speaker 4 hold on, listen to me now. In the Bible, it says, God loves a cheerful giver.

Speaker 4 It doesn't tell you how much you got to give, though. Exactly.
That's my point.

Speaker 4 That's it. Now, that's the only thing I don't agree with.
Now, you ain't finna lock them goddamn doors and I got to get home and watch the basketball game because it's March Madness.

Speaker 4 Talk about somebody got to give you $1,000.

Speaker 4 Now the devil is a liar. Now you're going to open them doors and I'm going to give you what I can.
Now that's what's going to happen. Or we're going to have to tussle up here in this church.

Speaker 4 Yeah, then God going to have to come down there and pull me up off you.

Speaker 4 He's going to have to come down up off his throne because he's the alpha and the omega, the man that sits high and looks low.

Speaker 4 So he know I'm going to be tearing your tail up in that church if you lock them doors and I can't get up out of there.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying, man, come on now. Oh, they, they, they, they, they, hey, they're doing too much, OJo.
Hey, yeah,

Speaker 4 their trip, their trip, they, their trip.

Speaker 4 It's a new church. I didn't even, oh, I didn't even know, I didn't even know pastors was a job.
Because every, when I grew up, the pastor,

Speaker 4 he was the principal. He was the janitor.
He cut hair. He wasn't no preacher full-time.
That wasn't the only job he had. Right.

Speaker 4 I know, I swear, Ocho, I did not know that that was a full-time full-time job.

Speaker 4 Maybe it's just me. Maybe that was just a southern thing.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 my pastor

Speaker 4 was a teacher at the school, or he was the principal, or he was the custodian. He was the barber.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He did other things.

Speaker 4 He just didn't preach.

Speaker 4 Maybe that's just, I don't know. Maybe that's just me.

Speaker 4 Hey, but one thing, you got to think, I'm not sure if Marvin Sapp has a mega church, but I understand what goes into it and what entails when it comes to the overhead for a church of that magnitude with a congregation.

Speaker 4 But stop building a church that big.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and listen, I don't know. I ain't never been there.

Speaker 4 I ain't never been there, but listen, one thing I do, I love some preaching, boy. I love some preaching.
You know, grandma had me in a church, you know, Sunday, Wednesday, Bible study.

Speaker 4 I led the choir. You know,

Speaker 4 I was in the junior choir. I was a junior deacon.

Speaker 4 I did a little, I did a little bit of a bad thing. I'm going to need to see where they said that in the Bible.

Speaker 4 And they locked the doors. Now, if that's not in the Bible.
No, it's not in there. That's not in there.
You know,

Speaker 4 they rewrite their own story now. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 4 we good for that.

Speaker 4 But see, you're just supposed to show you. It used to be salvation was free.

Speaker 4 But ministers have found a way to charge for salvation.

Speaker 4 Salvation was free. But that's a good one there, boy.

Speaker 4 Man, they need to stop. Look.
That's a good one there. And it's not the fact that it's $20.

Speaker 4 It's the fact that he's put a number on it.

Speaker 4 You don't tell somebody what they should give. That's between them and their God.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir. Not between the preacher trying to get money out your pocket.

Speaker 4 Yeah, especially, especially during these times. I give.
I ain't got no problem giving, but he ain't going to tell me how much to give. That ain't got nothing to do with him.

Speaker 4 That's between me. Hey, I'm going to have to answer.
No matter what you think of Shannon Sharp, Shannon is gonna have to answer for shannon yeah you can say one soul your own

Speaker 4 you trying to tell me what i need to do i will have to give an account for this i will have to go before that man and everything he's gonna say you remember this you gonna remember you remember that man they need to

Speaker 4 i i i don't i don't be like that old joe i don't i don't yeah i listen i'm listening i'm i'm with you when you're right i'm with you when you're right now i'm not getting too upset about it because i've i've come from the baptist church you know

Speaker 4 i've been there i know what it's like from a little from a little from a little one until i was a senior look i remember sitting on them them them them benches we had wooden benches you slide too much you might get a splint in your butt we didn't have no cushion we didn't have no cushiony seats the uh it leaked

Speaker 4 i mean uh i mean they they revamped it but it was a it was a church and you felt and you felt the lord come in there not in a got all these fancy things. Lord, I ain't coming by here.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Y'all play.

Speaker 4 Y'all play it in my name.

Speaker 4 Now, hey,

Speaker 4 y'all have the answer for this.

Speaker 4 Hey, them was some good days. Now you got, I mean, just you mentioning that video just bring back memories at church with grandma and overtown.
You know about Overtown, right? In Miami.

Speaker 4 Mount Oliver Baptist Church. I'll never forget Reverend Clark.
And as I got, as I got a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of

Speaker 4 name was Reverend Clark. For real? Yeah.
Now,

Speaker 4 as I got a little older, you know, Miami Northwestern, where Teddy Bridgewater just won a national championship? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I started walking from my grandma's house on 44th, 11th, I started walking to New Birth because New Birth,

Speaker 4 they was at Miami Northwestern having church there. And I started going to see the honorable Victor T.
Curry,

Speaker 4 Victor T. Curry, and became a part of that church.

Speaker 4 And now they over there in Open Lock Off 135th. Everybody that's a part of New Birth, I know you might see this.

Speaker 4 vintage t curry i hope everything is good i know i ain't been to church in a while i ain't got no suits but i love you and i'm doing i'm doing right oh joe but they've been preaching prosperity for the longest time you remember the televangelists see reverend ike and they had jimmy swagger and they had uh and they had

Speaker 4 jimmy yeah hey yeah oh and jimmy swagger got up there talking about father i've seen you know i'm saying hey hey but but i'm saying y'all remember uh rex humbard it was jimmy swagger rex Humbard.

Speaker 4 Revan Ike was the first one because Revan Ike was having you put five dollars and send it in for the prayer cloth. I don't know if y'all remember that.

Speaker 4 Might have been before your time, chat, but I'm old enough to remember. That's one thing about being old.

Speaker 4 And once you get to a certain age, you realize that's your only purpose left to do is to get old.

Speaker 4 Man, they better stop playing with me. Hey,

Speaker 4 man.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, hey, that was classic. Goddamn

Speaker 4 Jimmy Swagger. Boy, I remember Jimmy, boy.

Speaker 4 Bad, I say, man, look here.

Speaker 4 Like I said, I look, I give.

Speaker 4 The Lord knows you bless me. And I don't have no, I don't have no problem.

Speaker 4 And not only do I give to the church, if people in need.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's me. Hey, I helped people in the wildfires that happened in California.
Yes, sir. Shannon, hey, you know,

Speaker 4 me and my mom, my mom ain't got nowhere to go, Shannon. Right.

Speaker 4 I get your place for a couple of months.

Speaker 4 It is.

Speaker 4 Hey, I don't think

Speaker 4 that's the way

Speaker 4 my grandmother would give people her last.

Speaker 4 I'm like, why are you giving that?

Speaker 4 They ain't got nothing to eat. Hell, we don't need them.

Speaker 4 You know, we're going to be okay. We got some Rudabaggers.
And, you know, we can make some crackling. No, let them make Rudabaggers.

Speaker 4 Give them what we gonna eat and then we can go to the supermarket and we get some hot dogs

Speaker 4 but that ain't how that ain't how mary porter was

Speaker 4 she say son you know hey one day god will bless you yeah hey listen she told you she really truly believed in that right hold on i i i believe in that and and always have you know you remember remember when i used to do do the tipping do the tipping all the time and i would put proverbs certain the generous person will always i i stopped doing it because i kind of got in trouble because people seeing me do that and give the others so they complaining well why are you not sending more to me if you got extra to give to strangers i just so i i just i stopped doing it all together

Speaker 4 you know so anyway but that's the same that's the same thing ocho when we gave to uh southern

Speaker 4 why did you say bro bro come on man

Speaker 4 oh yeah yeah yeah man what yeah what about a t what about this what about bro yeah

Speaker 4 yeah so it's is I, I

Speaker 4 first and foremost, Savannah State gets my undivided attention. They're first on the list, right? No matter what.

Speaker 4 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 And I love HBCUs. I matriculated.
Yes. And I got a degree from Savannah State.

Speaker 4 But first and foremost, I'm here sitting in this seat because a lot of people at Savannah State, Haynes Walton, Norman Elmore, Claire Baines, Joyce McLemore, Joanne Green, Steve Smith,

Speaker 4 Gay Hewitt, they believed in me.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 They believed in me.

Speaker 4 So, man, please.

Speaker 4 But I've always been like that, OJo.

Speaker 4 I've always, you know, when I got money, I used to go back

Speaker 4 and tithe and make sure my grandma, oh, give me something to put in the church. I give my grandma, you know, oh, you want me to put all this in church? You say give you something to put in church.

Speaker 4 You ain't got to put it all there. Keep something for yourself.
You ain't got to put it all in there, but you say give you something to put in church. You want to put it all in there? Okay.

Speaker 4 You know your baby go take care of you, Granny. You go get some more.

Speaker 4 But yeah, man, they got to, man, they got to, they, I just don't like, I just don't like preaching prosperity. I don't.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm coming for the word. And so now if I don't give you a thousand dollars, I don't give you 50.
God ain't going to bless me. Nah.

Speaker 4 God said to give you a king. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and F. Damn.
Well,

Speaker 4 I enjoyed the night, but tonight was a good one. That was a good one.

Speaker 4 That was a good one.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 Ragna Cow 4 said, oh, you got to blame JJ for that. JJ wasn't on the court.

Speaker 4 JJ didn't tell LeBron to gamble. JJ didn't tell LeBron to turn the ball over.

Speaker 4 They had a five-point lead lead with 12 seconds.

Speaker 4 They had a two-point lead.

Speaker 4 They ended up being down by one with six seconds. They had a lead with three seconds and the team didn't have a timeout.

Speaker 4 That ain't on JJ, bro. Yeah.
LeBron James, Barney James, Bryce James, Bulls in five.

Speaker 4 Great airways, LeBron should focus on winning games instead of picking fights with reporters. He's hurting the team right now.
He's hurting his team right now.

Speaker 4 Well, obviously, it wasn't a good look.

Speaker 4 Like I said, we don't need to get into it.

Speaker 4 There was more discussion. Stephen A had more to say.
I don't care to add anything. I don't have anything to add to it, but I think hopefully both of them decide to leave this alone and move forward.

Speaker 4 LeBron needs to focus on these last nine games and trying to get the best seed he possibly can for the Lakers. Don't worry about what Stephen A said.
Stephen A gonna talk. That's Stephen A's job.

Speaker 4 But hey, now let's focus on what we need to focus on. Derek Giles said, hey, Uk, are you going to first take tomorrow to defend the ghosts? I mean, go.
No, hell no. I'm Monday, Tuesday.

Speaker 4 Your job, if your job, you show up on your day off to what?

Speaker 4 I don't know where to do that at.

Speaker 4 I don't.

Speaker 4 Monday, Tuesday.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 It's normally an itinerary, like, you know, during

Speaker 4 the fall, Locho, we went to

Speaker 4 HBC. You had the HBC tour, but that was already implemented.
I ain't coming on my day off. This is my day off.
And plus, I already got something on the schedule. They know.

Speaker 4 I already got something booked.

Speaker 4 Right. Ocho, you're going to be mad.
Who? You. Why, what happened? Cause I'm going to spar with somebody tomorrow.

Speaker 4 Like, spa, like, spar, spa. You know, spa, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

Speaker 4 Who are you going to spa with?

Speaker 4 Don't worry, nothing.

Speaker 4 Hey, wait, oh, you, you, you do, who, you, who you got, who you got for Club Shay Shea?

Speaker 4 It's a fighter.

Speaker 4 The champ is here.

Speaker 4 You heard me? Huh? You interviewing a fighter? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Which one? The champ is here.

Speaker 4 Which one?

Speaker 4 He's the champ at 147, undisputed.

Speaker 4 Oh, tell him, fight me then.

Speaker 4 I can get down to 147 right now.

Speaker 4 You heard me?

Speaker 4 What you think?

Speaker 4 Undisputed champion 147. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's all right. We good.

Speaker 4 I turned that thing over, oh Joe. You see, I turned that thing over.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, you got, hey, hey, you got, hang the phone up, man. You got to hang the phone.

Speaker 4 You got your hands up.

Speaker 4 No, Joe.

Speaker 4 Now, you're not Mike. You're not Mike Tyson.
Get your hands up, man.

Speaker 4 Get your hands up. Hey, I put that joint forward.
You see that joint forward? That crop.

Speaker 4 Hey, yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, that was funny.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The champ is here.

Speaker 4 I'm going to turn that fag over on you.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 You got to keep that elbow up now. You got to keep the elbow up on them hook.
Hey, but I also got to keep the fag aim because you keep that thing too high and bang the ribs. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's why you got to tuck in. You got to tuck in real comfortable.
But hey, hey, you got to get a. Don't give him that square shot.
You got to turn that angle. Put that angle.

Speaker 4 I can't give you that full shot. All of the.
Hey,

Speaker 4 I'm going to teach you everything. Everything you talk about, you're going to see me do again, James.

Speaker 4 Snap that thing off, Joe, Joe, bring it back. Yeah, yeah, you got to give me a little extension on them things too.
Now, you don't, don't short, don't show, don't shortchange me.

Speaker 4 Hey, see, when I popped it, when I popped that jab, that jab like lamb, fam,

Speaker 4 yeah, you got that thing on there all the time, yeah, yeah, there you go,

Speaker 4 okay,

Speaker 4 yeah, there you go, yeah, I like it.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 champ Champ is here.

Speaker 4 Hey, I got some Reyes gloves, too. You know, them Reyes, whoo, you can feel your knuckle through them things.

Speaker 4 But you know, I got them all. I

Speaker 4 like when I was doing that mess, I was, you know, doing a little bit of it. Then my hips got too bad.
That's hurt too bad. I had some winning, I had winning

Speaker 4 practice gloves. Yeah, that's all I got.
I got a bunch of winning stuff. Hey, matter of fact, whoever you're interviewing tomorrow, tell them I said let's fall at 147.

Speaker 4 I will call you.

Speaker 4 I mean, whoever it is, I probably got a number on my phone. I just, I mean, you said undisputed at 147.
I probably already beat him up.

Speaker 4 Honestly.

Speaker 4 Rhea Carter says, Stephen A. Chick-fil-A, don't care how much.
Luke away.

Speaker 4 Liggins and five.

Speaker 4 Ton SG say, what's the Steelers' ceiling if they sign Rodgers? Ocho, what's the ceiling? I mean, listen, I don't know what their ceiling is. I have no idea.
I know what Roger can do.

Speaker 4 I know what he did in the past. I know what we saw from him at the Jets.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure what Rodgers are we going to get. Are we going to get the Aaron Rodgers that's bought in?

Speaker 4 Are we going to get the Aaron Rodgers that shows up at the minicamp?

Speaker 4 Or are we going to get the Aaron Rodgers that goes on a dark retreat? It all depends on what Aaron Rodgers you get. True.
Are you bought in?

Speaker 4 Are you actually bought in?

Speaker 4 You ain't got the leverage you used to have before now.

Speaker 4 Dang, it's a different ballgame.

Speaker 4 They only go as far as he goes. Shit.
Go ahead. What are you going to say? I was going to say

Speaker 4 they only go as far. Every team is only going as far as the quarterback goes.

Speaker 4 You're only going as far as your quarterback is invested in how serious he's going to take his craft and job.

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Speaker 40 And now, it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner.

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Speaker 4 What is the likelihood of owners, or what is the percentage of owners, GM's executives, that actually

Speaker 4 listen and get advice from sports analyst shows and people that talk sports?

Speaker 4 what you think

Speaker 4 none

Speaker 4 if they i tell you what if you listen to them hey

Speaker 4 listen to the fans pretty soon you'll be right up there with them we are listen to them gms and and and people in that football operations that listen to people that talk pretty soon you right there next to them former general manager of this team for

Speaker 4 former player personnel of this team, right?

Speaker 4 Uh, Jay213 said, Hey, Uncle Nocho, please rank these music videos. MJ Thriller, you rock my world.
Remember the time,

Speaker 4 uh, and I rock with you for me. Uh, thriller,

Speaker 4 remember the time.

Speaker 4 Do you read Thriller is definitely first,

Speaker 4 yeah? Thriller number one, Thriller might be the best video of all time. Do you remember the time? That's number two for me.
I rock.

Speaker 4 You rock my world.

Speaker 4 Which is the one with Eddie Murphy and all in it? That's what you remember the time. Okay, yeah, that's definitely number two.

Speaker 4 I go, you know what? I rock my world as three and rock with you four.

Speaker 4 Oh, nine.

Speaker 4 Dr. Frankie L.
Bellamy says, fam, nightcamp, closing on the 2 million subs on Club Shea Share, almost 4 million. That's just not content.
That's culture, not just views. That's a vision.

Speaker 4 Congrats, Shay Shea Media. What an accomplishment.
Thank you, Dr. Frankie.
Hey, man, hey, Jess. Jess hit it at the park for us, man.
She was unbelievable. Yeah.
She's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 And I'm just trying to figure out people talking about ain't nobody watch

Speaker 4 Amber Rose.

Speaker 4 They realize Amber Rose on YouTube did about 4 million views.

Speaker 4 Andrew Schultz did about 4 million views for nobody to watch him. Yeah, how many people? How many people that sit down and have conversation with people on YouTube do 4 million views?

Speaker 4 You can't listen to people, man. I don't, I don't listen.
No,

Speaker 4 I don't like this person. Oh, you got to come on, you got to come into the comments to say you ain't going to watch this video.
But you in the comments,

Speaker 4 I, you know, what on your and one more thing: I want two words to be retired in 25. What's that? Diabolical and messy.

Speaker 4 Messy? Messy. Because every time Shannon go into the store, man, you know, Shannon's so messy.

Speaker 4 Man, Ocho, Ocho was talking about, that boy, they Shannon so messy. And that's, oh, that's diabolical.
Okay, enough.

Speaker 4 Yeah, listen, the only, the only messy, listen, the only messy I recognize is Maya. Diabolical?

Speaker 4 I ain't never really heard that. Man, that's all.
Hey, man, man, Ocho talking about Kuki Total is diabolical.

Speaker 4 Bro.

Speaker 4 I'm like, hold on.

Speaker 4 Anytime,

Speaker 4 there have been so many people that have the guests that I've had on and ask them the very same questions that I ask.

Speaker 4 Everything is fine.

Speaker 4 Nothing.

Speaker 4 The minute you ask, it's a problem. I'm messy.

Speaker 4 and pause.

Speaker 4 Well, we pause, bro. We used to, hey, Ocho, you remember we used to be able to talk?

Speaker 4 Because, you know, we talking, we talking, we talking. Right.

Speaker 4 I was like, man.

Speaker 4 I just don't get it. But, doc, I thank you very much.
It's the look.

Speaker 4 And all the people that's pausing and diabolical and messy, how they really support no choice and I anyway. Y'all just coming coming and hoping somebody tag along.

Speaker 4 Y'all want somebody, because there are a lot of followers on social media, Ocho. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 A lot of followers.

Speaker 4 I think Jess was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 Amber was great. Young Miami was great.
Andrew Schultz. I like having different people.

Speaker 4 If all I had was football players, if all I had was comedians, if all I had was any one group of things, how do you grow? How do you expand the platform?

Speaker 4 I'm confused. Y'all do realize we're trying to expand.
Right.

Speaker 4 When you go back and look at talk shows that used to be there, they're not even made in now.

Speaker 4 But when you go back and look at Phil Donahue and you look at Oprah, you look at Ricky Lake, and you look at Jenny Jones, and you look at all those, they had different people all the time.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 You have to have that. That's how you grow.
That's how you expand. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I think

Speaker 4 background, they different backgrounds, different ethnicities.

Speaker 4 You got to have that. Hey, and young Miami, hey, oh, man, man, uh, man, uh, bro, I ain't never asked for nobody.
I ain't got nobody. No, we just, we just, we have a great time.
I go with how they go.

Speaker 4 Hey, young Miami was flowing, we gonna flow. Amber Rose flowing, we gonna flow.
Cash dog, we gonna flow, we gonna flow.

Speaker 4 Certain people, they want to keep it strictly, we gonna keep it that. Right.

Speaker 4 But I think the whole thing is to make people feel comfortable when they come on that they're having a conversation that they open up that's it that's all i'm trying to do i ain't trying to hey hey man up shooting this shot no up ain't shooting no shot come on now i mean come on how that's gonna look i'm bringing somebody on there to try to shoot a shot right hell i'm sliding the dm and not even out brought them on

Speaker 4 that's what but people think like that's what y'all would do see y'all would be and pretty soon you wouldn't have a talk you wouldn't have a conversation you wouldn't have a pod.

Speaker 4 The one thing I won't do is Martin Porter told me this when I'm very young age. He said, Boy, don't eat your dick in your wallet.

Speaker 4 And when I told people that, people were like, what that means? I said, you'll figure it out. Don't worry about it.
I'm going to write that down right now.

Speaker 4 D Chat said, Uncle No Joke, it's my wife's birthday today. Can you guys please give Casey a shout out? Even though we're beefing, I still love her.
Thanks, guys. Hey, hey, Casey.

Speaker 4 Happy birthday, Casey. Put that aside.
D-Chat

Speaker 4 just for the night. Hey, Lake Luther Van Dros, you should say, if only for one night, it's your birthday.
Hey, y'all can go back to beef. Be like Tom and Jerry.
Hey, y'all can beef tomorrow.

Speaker 4 But tonight, put all that aside

Speaker 4 and do right by your man.

Speaker 4 That's all you got to do. Just give it, just, just,

Speaker 4 it's good. I mean, come on now.
It can't be that bad.

Speaker 4 You never retired. Deputy chef said, What's the one thing you wish you knew about love in your 20s that you understand now? What's more important? A partner loyalty, peace, and passion.
Peace.

Speaker 4 Loyalty.

Speaker 4 Because if she gives me loyalty, I'll be at peace.

Speaker 4 Man, peace. I ain't trying to hear that.
Oh, you want peace?

Speaker 4 Man, peace.

Speaker 4 If somebody beating your walls down while you're in peace, okay. Man, she's not even with me.
That's why I got damn peace. So I don't care who beat them down.
Shit, you ain't mad. That's her.

Speaker 4 That's your responsibility.

Speaker 4 I ain't talking about your situation. Oh, no, I talk about mine.
I'm just saying I'm saying in general. You said peace.

Speaker 4 That's the peace. Since when do you have peace if you have someone in your space? You don't have to be peaceful.
There is no peace. Yeah, that's what you're supposed to have, Ojo.

Speaker 4 That when we never get it.

Speaker 4 Well, that don't mean you stop looking.

Speaker 4 That don't mean you stop searching.

Speaker 4 I'm good. Oh, I'm good now.
I got peace now.

Speaker 4 Serke said, my guys, two questions. Ocho, I know it's early, but what are your early predictions of who will win FIFA World Cup 2026? Can the U.S.
win it?

Speaker 4 And Sterling versus Ocho, who is the X, who's the Z? My brother played the Z.

Speaker 4 Ocho was an X.

Speaker 4 My brother played the Z. Jerry, my brother played the Z.
They played the Z position.

Speaker 4 Who you got on your World Cup 2026?

Speaker 4 That's going to be a good one, boy.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 I mean, I would love USA. I would love USA to get a little further than normal.
I'm excited to see what they're able to do.

Speaker 4 But it's going to be very, very difficult, very difficult for us. Looking at some of the qualifying games they played so far, not dominating against inferior opponents.
And I mean, no disrespect.

Speaker 4 But how are we going to compete with the Argentinas and the Brazils and

Speaker 4 the Frances? And I just,

Speaker 4 I don't know. So, as far as a favorite now, Argentina is probably a favorite to win

Speaker 4 yet again,

Speaker 4 along with some other squads. So,

Speaker 4 I don't know, France, maybe.

Speaker 4 To go back to the question, he says, what do I wish I knew?

Speaker 4 I knew what I needed to know.

Speaker 4 But I was so driven.

Speaker 4 I didn't think

Speaker 4 I could do two things.

Speaker 4 I didn't think I could, OJo.

Speaker 4 Because the one woman that I knew loved me unconditionally was Mary Porter.

Speaker 4 No matter what I did, no matter what I did, she said, baby, you were wrong, but I love you. She didn't love me on the condition that I didn't cheat.

Speaker 4 She didn't love me on the condition that I didn't hurt her. She didn't love me on the conditions.

Speaker 4 That I was in a bad mood and I didn't want to talk. She loved me unconditionally.

Speaker 4 Come on, man. And so for me,

Speaker 4 I was searching for that and not realizing that I was never going to achieve that. And there were conditions on which my partner was going to love me.
Always.

Speaker 4 So it made it very, very easy for me to stay focused on what I needed to focus on.

Speaker 4 I would like to apologize for that, Ocho. Yeah, remember what I always told you?

Speaker 4 That all comes down to also being able to manage your expectations with understanding that everything comes with conditions.

Speaker 4 Well, everybody, it's easy for everybody to be loyal when it's convenient and beneficial. Well, hell, of course.
Somebody, hold on, it's convenient and it's beneficial. Virtue says a little bar.

Speaker 4 Yeah, everybody's gonna love somebody that's making millions. It's easy to love somebody that's making in you.
Because you know what a man, you know what a man told,

Speaker 4 not a man, it was a man and his wife. And she said, Shanna, it's just as easy to love a rich man as it is a broke one.

Speaker 4 Come on, now.

Speaker 4 Come on. Don't let that go over y'all head.
Come on, man.

Speaker 4 So, all this, all this y'all talking, oh, cheating, this, and that. It's just it's easy for you to love me or pretend that you love me for the situation that I can lift you up out of.

Speaker 4 Listen, I'm acting like I'm in the church. I'm gonna go ahead and go ahead and exit stage left.

Speaker 4 Well, y'all,

Speaker 4 hey, hey, hey, hey, we offering play that because I see your 5200 right now because you're preaching.

Speaker 4 You heard me?

Speaker 4 I am going to find me someone. Come on now.

Speaker 4 Oh, you done got old now. You done got old.
Yeah, I got old and I got my money.

Speaker 4 I'd have been young and didn't got with the wrong one. I'd have been old with no money.
And ain't got nobody to take care of me.

Speaker 4 Now, at least I can pay somebody to come take care of me and do things for me that I can't do for myself. There it is.

Speaker 4 There it is.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 you were cutting up at the end of the show tonight, boy.

Speaker 4 That wasn't number of the word.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 4 My former teammate.

Speaker 4 Rodney Spivey, Rodney Arnold, Rodney Irving Arnold. How he he changed the name.

Speaker 4 1967. He's from Myrtle Beach.
Man.

Speaker 4 We got to Savannah State together, Ocho, the guy that's,

Speaker 4 and as a matter of fact,

Speaker 4 he was so,

Speaker 4 he came to Minnesota. My first, this was in 1991.

Speaker 4 He came and saw me play in Minnesota. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think his wife might have been from Minnesota. But he had a, I remember he came, he had a red IROC Z.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh. I remember that.
I remember the IRO.

Speaker 4 5%.

Speaker 4 Hold on, T-Top? Yeah, T-Top.

Speaker 4 Red. I'm talking about candy.
I can't be red.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, I had a T-top.

Speaker 4 Had the IROC on the side, but I want to send my thoughts and prayers out to his family.

Speaker 4 Rest in peace, 50, and to all the family, friends, and loved ones that's been impacted by

Speaker 4 this sad passing of my former teammate and friend, Rodney's uh uh Rodney.

Speaker 4 Rest in peace, bro.

Speaker 4 SSC Mission, man. T5.
T5 always.

Speaker 4 Uh, Alabama cooked them boys, Mark Sears is Brunson 2.0. Yeah, I think he made like, didn't he make like 10 threes? They made like 20, 20, still in the way, like 25.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 That's it. Ocho.
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