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So joining us right now is one of the funny men,

Speaker 4 got his start on social media. And here he is blowing up, Tony Baker, great comedian, voiceover.

Speaker 4 Tony, what's going on, bro? What's up, y'all? Can y'all hear me and see me? Yeah, I can see you. Oh, bet you.
I can see you. Better.
Thanks for having me, yo.

Speaker 4 Hey, boy, you can be a little lighter than,

Speaker 4 but it's okay.

Speaker 4 The light too, Bright. I got the space shovel.

Speaker 4 I got the beam me up, the helium joints. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man.

Speaker 4 If you need me.

Speaker 4 Nah, you're good. You good.
You good, bro.

Speaker 15 How's everything? Everything good, though?

Speaker 4 And I ain't got no complaints, man. I'm going.
golden. I'm back on tour.
So, you know,

Speaker 4 getting my pockets replenished. Just bought a house.

Speaker 4 There you go. Hey, listen,

Speaker 15 every morning, ask the man upstairs, man, to make sure that cup continue to run it over.

Speaker 4 You're going to be all right. Come on, man.
I bought my first house. So I need every dollar.

Speaker 4 Oh, did you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, man. I just bought my first house, Southern California.
So you know they're going to charge you $8 million for a one and a half bedroom, zero bag.

Speaker 4 congratulations congratulations thanks tony did you all did you tony did you always want to be a comedian did you were you a class clown were you funny always when did you decide to say you know what i'm gonna be a stand-up you know what man uh i was always funny and didn't realize it because i'm the youngest of three boys So

Speaker 4 I'm trying to crack jokes at the house, but my brothers would never laugh. They gave me nothing, man.
So I was going to school. I would go to school thinking I wasn't funny.

Speaker 4 So So I'm making the kids laugh, but it didn't even register. Cause I was like, man, I ain't funny at home, though.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, when we young and we teens and we in the girls, you don't want to be funny. You're trying to be all smooth and macro.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got the Jodisky boots on.
You just like, yeah, girl.

Speaker 4 They'd be like, you funny. I'll be like, no, no, I ain't trying to be funny.
You know what I'm saying? And so

Speaker 4 I never really paid attention to my funny until I got to college. And then that's when it clicked.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 But you know, women like guys that are funny. But Tony, you know, women like guys that are funny.

Speaker 4 One of the things that they say, a sense of humor. Yeah.
I found it.

Speaker 4 I found it out later.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 When did you get into the voiceover? Because that's kind of how I stumbled upon you. You were doing voiceover, cash dog.

Speaker 4 I forget. What's the

Speaker 4 Scotty? Scotty.

Speaker 4 Curtis and Scotty, man. Yeah, Curtis and Scotty.
How did you get into the voiceover? You know what it was?

Speaker 4 We always had pets growing up. So, you know, I never lived without an animal in the house somewhere until I went to college.

Speaker 4 And so I was always wondering what they was thinking about, just looking at cats and dogs and like, what y'all thinking about? And so. I did this.
I did two videos.

Speaker 4 It was one of this goat in Brazil just harassing the hell out of everybody, man. Just

Speaker 4 cramming people on the motorcycle. Oh, Crito Cramp.
Oh, Crambleton. Crambleton, man.
He just, he knocked this lady over. She had grocery bags, and this dude tried to save him.

Speaker 4 So that was the very first one I did. And then I did the second one.
This fraccoon was eating out of a cat food dish and the cats were surrounded him looking at him like he crazy.

Speaker 4 Like, yo, man, who's the man right here? And he looking at them. And then he dip off and then come back for one last scoop and then he'd run off.

Speaker 4 That's the one that went viral. And so I was like, let me just do these for real.
And I just kept doing them ever since. Right.
That's live.

Speaker 15 Hey, you had a comedy special of Scaredy Cat. Can you walk us through the creative process and the prep you had behind the special and how everything came about?

Speaker 4 Okay, so I started doing stand-up in 2008.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 really my voice notes are just a vehicle to get you to come see me live. So

Speaker 4 I've been doing stand-ups since then. So, you know, I'm just doing, when I start to do a stand-up, I'm doing everything everything I can get my hands on.

Speaker 4 And every show, every competition, every bringer show, I'm just doing whatever. And so

Speaker 4 I'm just accumulating all this material. I'm getting up every night.

Speaker 4 I'm like doing multiple stages a night. And so by the time I started scared a cat, and I met these cats and I still worked with Brennan and Tony at Transit Pictures, and they was like, yo.

Speaker 4 Let us shoot your special. And I was like, all right, you know, and so they put it together because they do dynamite work.
And so we went to New Mexico State.

Speaker 4 That's where that's where I went to college. And

Speaker 4 we shot the special there.

Speaker 4 You know, low budget, guerrilla style, independent. Just shot that.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 so that's like years worth of material that we just culminated right there.

Speaker 4 Started.

Speaker 4 Who is your inspiration? When you grow up, when you like, you're like, okay, take a little bit of this, take a little bit of that.

Speaker 4 Who are some of your inspirations in the comedic space? Well, when I was growing up, I'm 47. So, you know, Delirious was the first comedy special that just blew my head off.

Speaker 4 What you know about that? Man, come on, man. Oh, Delirious.
Man,

Speaker 4 anybody that knows that was around at that time, that special just blew everybody's head off. And so that's when I first took in a comedy special for real.

Speaker 4 And then as time went on, you know, I was called Raw.

Speaker 4 But then I started watching like comedy and I was like, Damon Wayne, Sinbad, and Jerry Seinfeld are my three influences with a sprinkler of Bernie Mac. So those, those are like,

Speaker 4 those are my influences right there. And so I feel like I'm a combination of those three that I mentioned.
And because I could, my mom don't like a lot of cussing. So we could watch Sinbad together.

Speaker 4 You know, right. And then that's what I was about to ask you because I don't hear a lot of, I don't hear a lot of cursing in your comedy.
Yeah. I try to keep it PG-13 for the most part.

Speaker 4 like i don't want to i don't want to get too clean because i don't want to get stuck in that box but right um you know so i try to keep it pg13 so my mom won't cringe up

Speaker 4 so um but yeah sin bad damon wands the way he would just like storytell and do the character act outs and then

Speaker 4 and then the way signfell just just details every like little basic human experience that we have talking about socks for like 15 minutes

Speaker 4 talking about toothpaste, talking about serial. I could do that type of stuff too.
So, those are my three influences right there.

Speaker 15 That's dope. I don't think people understand how difficult, how difficult stand-up comedy is.
I think they think people are funny. You just stand on stage in front of a crowd and it just works.

Speaker 15 Not understanding that the material has to hit, you have to engage with the crowd, you have to have stage presence.

Speaker 15 There's so many factors and variables that go in for a comedian to be able to stand up in front of people,

Speaker 15 have said material, remember said material, and the delivery to be on on point. Yes.

Speaker 15 So my question is,

Speaker 15 how different is your approach when it comes to doing stand-up versus the content you put on social media? Or do you just approach both the same way?

Speaker 4 Well, the way I write is like, I think of a premise, like I'll be like, I'll be at the grocery store tonight. And I'll be like, man, look at this lady right here.

Speaker 4 And then next time I get on stage, I'll be like, man, I was in Whole Foods. I've seen this lady right here.
And so I write it in real time like that. I keep the premise in mind.

Speaker 4 All right, I'm going to say this.

Speaker 4 And then I start, I keep doing it the more I go up and then I edit, add in stuff, okay, okay, okay. Do it like that.
And so,

Speaker 4 because like the way my mind works, I'll forget it if I don't, if I don't like write it down or do it right away.

Speaker 4 And so that's my approach to like stand up. My voiceovers and like the content, it'd be in the moment, man.

Speaker 4 Like when people, people used to send me before i kind of stopped doing voiceovers because instagram keep pulling them off my page and i want to get my page deleted but

Speaker 4 people would send me videos all day long they still do and so they'd be like hey man hey told man this and so i'll look at the video maybe once twice And then I'll just think of the whole scenario.

Speaker 4 I got a voiceover where it's these two cats. It's one outside the window and one in the window.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, Curtis. Yeah.
Let me holler at you right quick. Yeah,

Speaker 4 because the one outside looks like he's been about that life, he's in the streets, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 He wants Curtis to come outside so he can give him the security path for real, yeah. And so, when I'm looking at that, I'm like, oh, I got the conversation right here.

Speaker 4 He's like, hey, Curtis, man, why don't you step outside? Let me holler at you real quick.

Speaker 4 And then he disappeared for a little bit. He was like, oh, he's failing.

Speaker 4 Remember, he failed.

Speaker 4 I'm hurt. I'm man.

Speaker 4 I'm failing failing then you come back why why you ain't heal me curtain

Speaker 4 so it's just

Speaker 4 you freaking me out you freaking me out scotty you freaking me out

Speaker 4 yeah man and so and i like production value too so like if i do a voiceover of a giraffe running from a lion i'll be outside running when i record it That way, so you get the effect you like, it's really like that's what's really happening.

Speaker 4 Yep, like you can hear me running outside. It'd be like, oh man, it's not like he's really running.
So some some people appreciate those little nuances.

Speaker 15 Great. Yeah, that's

Speaker 15 dope.

Speaker 4 Tony, give me a My Rushmore comedians. Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you

Speaker 4 two of the ones I just named. I'm going to give you Simbad.

Speaker 4 Okay. And this is my personal one.
I can give you a comedy, My Rushmore, or I can give you my personal.

Speaker 4 Hey, I want yours. Who are your My Rushmore comedians? Okay.
Tony Baker's My Rushmore. Gotcha.
Damon Wayne.

Speaker 4 I feel like his HBO specials are underrated. We know Damon is a legend, but I feel like his comedy specials don't get talked about enough, man.

Speaker 4 It's crazy. So I'm going to give you Damon Wayne.

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you Sinbad as well. I feel like Thinbad don't get talked about enough to be that funny and that

Speaker 4 and that consistent is crazy. And his crowd work is bananas.
So

Speaker 4 got them two on there.

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you

Speaker 4 dang, man.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 I want to throw Eddie on there, but he only got two specials. But they was monumental, though.
And he Griffin?

Speaker 4 Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 15 Oh, Murphy. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 4 He only got two, though. So I'm going to be like,

Speaker 4 I'm going to slide him off.

Speaker 4 I'm going to put him on the legendary Mount Rushmore, but since he only got two, I'm going to slide him off. And then I want to put George Carlin on there because

Speaker 4 that's my boy. George Carlin, man, just I can listen to him all day.
And the way he breaks stuff down is just...

Speaker 15 Hey, I have all his specials.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. All of them.
That dude was crazy, man. Listen, you guys, you got it.

Speaker 15 There are very few comedians that you go and see where you have to think.

Speaker 4 He makes you think.

Speaker 15 He forces you to think. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then not only that, not only thinking, you're going to walk away having learned some stuff. It's just like, no,

Speaker 4 yes. He's very socially conscious.
Yes, Marriott. And the way he's doing it.
He's very socially conscious. He's going to talk about things in real life that you think dealing with.

Speaker 4 And you think, like, damn, he put that in perspective. You know who the great, I think, one of the greatest storytellers, especially of this generation, through that.
Chappelle. Oh, yeah, Chappelle.

Speaker 4 For sure. Man, that joker.
And he can take the way he can diffuse our audience and talk about things that you shouldn't be talking about.

Speaker 4 And before you know it, his SNL, when he did SNL a couple years ago, bake,

Speaker 4 it might have been the greatest monologue in Saturday Night Live history. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ocho, if you haven't seen it, go back and look at his monologue.

Speaker 4 You know what's dope about Smith?

Speaker 4 The way his comedy transformed.

Speaker 4 If you go back and look at the Killing Them Softly or his early specials, there was more rapid fires, more jokes, but then he developed into like this monumental storyteller where you just like listening.

Speaker 4 You're just like, man, this dude, yes, breaking it all the way down to where the jokes sneak up on you. Now, it's like, yes,

Speaker 4 it's like, I don't know, I don't know if success made him more comfortable in his approach to where he could just be like, y'all gonna rock with me anyways.

Speaker 4 So let me just sit down, smoke this cigarette, and take my time. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But his transition is just crazy.
Patrice O'Neill is another dude that I feel like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 4 if he just passed away. Oh, man.

Speaker 4 No telling where he would have went.

Speaker 4 But what about Pryor? What do you think about Pryor?

Speaker 4 You know what I feel about Pryor? I would put him on the Mount Rushmore of the Best Comedians that ever exists

Speaker 4 because when you look at Deaf Comedy, Jam,

Speaker 4 it was 27, 35 Richard Pryors on that thing.

Speaker 4 Like he birthed so many comedians that if you were young and didn't catch Richard Pryor in his prime, you would go back and look at the Richard Pryor special and be like, yo, this reminds me of like Death Jam.

Speaker 4 That's because they were born from him.

Speaker 4 So it's like, you know, his style of comedy is just central to the whole game because it changed everything.

Speaker 4 So I would put him right on the mount rush for

Speaker 4 you know, the best comedians to ever do it. I think he's the most important comedian that ever exists.

Speaker 4 But you see these, a lot of these stand-up, and he was probably one of the first that did stand-up and transitioned to movies. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then you got, you know, Eugene Wilder and you got

Speaker 4 Murphy and you got

Speaker 4 Kevin Hart. You got a lot of these guys, Rock, Chris Rock.
You get a lot of these guys that started off as stand-up.

Speaker 4 And it seemed like the net, is that a natural transition to go from stand-up to going to the big screen? I feel like a lot of times.

Speaker 4 Because what happened was with Richard and Eddie, you had that blueprint of like, all right, I'm going to do stand-up and then I'm going to do movies like Richard Prime, Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy, because that's what happened to me.

Speaker 4 Like I always wanted to act. And so I was like, yo, let me try stand-up as a way to get exposure.
But then what happened to me was I fell in love with stand-up as soon as I did it.

Speaker 4 So now when I get an acting role, I'd be like, cool, cool. But I don't be like.

Speaker 4 excited like developing like a dope set

Speaker 4 because you know when you act so much other stuff is out of your control with stand-up i control everything you know what i'm saying like uh right if i'm in a movie i'm at the mercy of the casting director then once i get past that you know i gotta work with the director the writers the producer they might edit my scene out so you never know and then before stand-up is i'm i'm in more control of everything like it's me right so but as far as the transitions go that was the move it was like it turned into the move where it's just like all right man this stand-up comedian is so popular and so large.

Speaker 4 Let's throw him in a movie or two, man, because he's funny. He might stand out.
And then the next thing you know, you just got this wave of cats that like started on stage.

Speaker 4 And then we're going to get him in movies and stuff like that. Now, mind you, everything ain't going to click.

Speaker 4 Like, when they do get movies, they be tanking, and you only get a few thanks before they be like, all right, all right, man, look out.

Speaker 4 But if you look at Bernie Mac, Bernie Mac is the only guy that you watch his mannerisms in the movie. That's just his mannerisms on stage.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 The way he did blue, blue, don't make me raise up because he trouble.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? If you watch him at house party, you watch him in Friday. His mannerisms on the screen is his mannerisms on stage.

Speaker 4 He was one of the, he was one of the few guys that when you watch him, you're like, he doing stand-up, he acting. Yes.
Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 4 He was able to do that transition on his turn. It's like, you know, we had already seen him.

Speaker 4 If you you was in the know, you already seen him in like house party and like these movies before the real comedians.

Speaker 4 Then by the time real comedians came out and a lot of people saw him doing stand-up for the first time, they just like, oh my God, that's when he got his TV show and got like high-profile gigs, like Ocean's 11 and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 And so

Speaker 4 it was like, because every time he was in something before, he was still in scenes all the time. Everything he was there,

Speaker 4 he was still in the show every time. Right.

Speaker 4 I know know I knew you. I know I knew you.
They used to call you Joe. They used to call you

Speaker 4 Michael. You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 He had auto-ray. House Party 3, man.
I'm telling you, every time he showed up, for him to be able to stand out in life, that movie had a dope on Salvo. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Jalen Lynn. But if you, and you go back and look at Harlem Nights, when they had the smorgasbord,

Speaker 4 You had the OGs, you had Red Fox, you had Richard, you had Brady, you had Ronaldo Ray. I mean, you had all of the

Speaker 4 and the same thing as life. I don't know if we'll ever see another cast like what we had in life.

Speaker 4 Not like that. It was great.

Speaker 15 Hey, you know what?

Speaker 15 When you talk about cast, right, and movies that are classics based on the people that were casted,

Speaker 4 life,

Speaker 15 life of Harlem Knights could be on. It don't matter where you watch it or where you catch it on TV.

Speaker 4 you'll stop and watch it go stop go stop and watch it and there's one more movie you stop and watch

Speaker 4 there's one more movie where it was casted perfectly and they would they would never be able to replicate it they tried but it was nothing close to it and now it was coming to america i knew you was gonna stay there man yeah coming to america man coming to america is like one of the best comedies ever made

Speaker 4 top to bite

Speaker 15 you can't you can't replicate it they tried i'm not saying they failed they failed but it wasn't close they failed

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Speaker 4 But when you look, when you look at Harlem Knights and you get Dela Reese, and you get that scene with Red Fox, and

Speaker 4 you get Pryor, and you get Murphy, and you get Arsenio, and you get that cat. I think,

Speaker 4 what's the guy you said passed?

Speaker 4 Robert Harris. Yeah, you get, you get, you get all of those those guys.
That's the

Speaker 4 cream of the

Speaker 4 that's the cream of the crop, yeah, man.

Speaker 4 I don't know if we'll never get another, we'll never, we'll never get, I don't, I hate to say never because never is always, but I don't know if we're gonna ever get a cast like that again, Tony.

Speaker 4 We could mortgage,

Speaker 4 we could like once we get like you know, once we get a Dave's Professor together, Kevin Hart together, like the giants of now, if we can get them in the right project, that's the thing, though, right?

Speaker 4 Right now we're oversaturated with movies and tv shows and stuff like that so it's harder it's harder for us to get that classic because we so oversaturated

Speaker 4 when harlem nights came out that was a movement man i remember going to i remember i was in chicago it was evergreen plaza opening weekend that movie theater was packed and what i'm talking about yeah when them jokes when them jokes was hidden you couldn't even hear what they said after the joke because that theater was so you had to go back and watch it because you missed the jokes because people were still laughing and they were going on.

Speaker 4 That's how it was with life. Yeah, I ended up having to buy the DVD because I couldn't hear anything because everybody was laughing in the theater.
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 4 And when you go back and listen to it, you realize what you actually missed. And like Ocho said, though, some things like they're classics.

Speaker 4 Even Friday, when you go back and look at the cast that was in Friday, dude, OG Friday. Yeah, for real.

Speaker 4 And it's hard, making. I wish comedy sequels are the toughest sequels to make, man.
Cause like an action sequel, all you got to do is ramp up the action and you good to go.

Speaker 4 But like with comedy sequels, they be trying to relive the magic and then they just be feeling forced now. It's the once again, once I feel like you trying to make me laugh,

Speaker 4 I'll be losing the will to do it. I'll be like, nah, you kind of forced it now.

Speaker 15 And the funny thing about it, you can tell. You can tell when they're trying to make you laugh.

Speaker 15 When someone is authentic and and organically funny

Speaker 15 they're not even trying yep you can see the funniest people are not even trying it just is there's a certain if factor that you're just born with right you can't teach it you can't coach it you know it just either you got it or you don't because friday feels organic

Speaker 4 But bank, you know, the problem is, is that when the first one does so well and it makes so much money, you got to bring it back just cause for no other reason. You got to bring it back.

Speaker 4 When you see these like, man, they, man, that's a good old movie. A movie did five, half a billion.
A movie does a billion. You do getting you getting a two, a three, and maybe a damn four.

Speaker 4 That's like the fast and the furious. We done got 10.
We up to 10 now. Yeah.
We in they in outer space.

Speaker 4 Once Ludacris and Tyrese was sitting in the vehicle out of space, I was like, you know what? Y'all got it. Y'all got it.

Speaker 4 They sitting in the car. and out of space, though.
They're racing space. They rush it.
They racing space shuttles.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, what are we going with that? Man,

Speaker 4 let me ask you this: yes,

Speaker 4 babe, what's your favorite? What's your favorite city? The tutorial, where you, where you like to go, give me your top five cities that you like to go perform. Top five, man.

Speaker 4 I love the fact that you always do top five because I love doing top five anything. You give me a top five, anything.
I'm gonna give it to you. So,

Speaker 4 uh, this is this is in any order, this is out of order. So, I'm going off energy,

Speaker 4 New York.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 I'm gonna go with

Speaker 4 this is a ringer right here. I don't know how many comedians going to say this, but Louisville, Kentucky.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 4 That's a good one. Kentucky got fired energy.

Speaker 4 Every time

Speaker 4 I'm going to throw in.

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you.

Speaker 4 Who got that good energy? I really like performing in Chicago.

Speaker 4 I know I could be biased, but because I'm from there, but Chicago Energy be fire.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go with,

Speaker 4 let's see, that's three right there.

Speaker 4 Let me throw that Baltimore in there, man. Baltimore.
Okay, yeah, yeah. Baltimore, good.
Can I cut stone here?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Baltimore, good ass time, dog.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 I'm going to round it out with

Speaker 4 shoot. Philly is though.

Speaker 4 I might round it out with DC, man. DC.

Speaker 4 DC got them heavyweights now. They got Quayton.
They got Chappelle. They got Wanda Sykes.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Who else from oh? Donnell Rollins? Yeah. Dominique.

Speaker 4 Yes, DC. DC got some five comedians.
Chico from DC, ain't he?

Speaker 4 Chico Bean? Yeah, I think he from DCD too. I think he is.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 4 I rock with DC Heavy. This is a city as a whole, but those folks would be fun out there.

Speaker 4 Hey, when you got started here, have you ever gotten booed?

Speaker 4 I got booed one time.

Speaker 4 I was at a casino. This was a casino in Southern California.
And

Speaker 4 it was a casino, the Land Factory used to book, and Tiffany Haddish was the host. So

Speaker 4 we out there. I make the drive out there, Tiffany hosting doing her thing.
I get up there. I'm on stage for probably about 15 minutes.
And one dude was like, boo.

Speaker 4 I was like, dog, man boo so it was one dude i didn't get the community boo but it was one strong boo that he sat in and so that's my only actual boo though but that's a boo though how you hey bake how you get boo dude playing the slots and booing you from by player this july

Speaker 4 boo

Speaker 4 boo

Speaker 4 it was it was a strong boo too he had it I felt like he had his shirt off when he did it, man. I felt like his chest hands was out.
I was like, hey, man, you're going to boo me.

Speaker 4 And He was like, boo, he doubled down.

Speaker 4 I know you're a sports fan. Let me ask you this: who you go, basketball goat, MJ, LeBron, Kobe, where you want to go? Who you go?

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 I'm from Chicago. So, you already know.
You are bad. You already knew this door.
So,

Speaker 4 MJ, I got to give it to MJ, man, because he just changed everything.

Speaker 4 He did. He did.

Speaker 4 He changed the whole thing. He shifted the whole thing.
So

Speaker 4 I'm going to go with MJ.

Speaker 4 Not only for that, not only because they played for the Bulls, but the stuff they was doing was just monumental. And I feel like, you know, the what if is like, what if he never went to play baseball?

Speaker 4 And, you know what I'm saying? The what if on that, we could have got seven. Right.
You know, maybe not eight, but we could have got seven because the Houston Rockets was cold. But

Speaker 4 I'm going to go with MJ. I feel like LeBron is one of the best to ever do it.
I don't like how people hate on him all all the time and i feel like i feel like lebron

Speaker 4 is the best player with the cleanest image of all time yeah

Speaker 4 because when you when you think about lebron's image to be that great it ain't been no scandals man he's a family man you know what i'm saying yeah he stayed out of he ain't no duis he ain't no gadget yeah he don't

Speaker 4 he had to go to court you know what i'm saying with no

Speaker 4 charges i'm like yo man yeah this is a good dude right here man Because he could have, he could have a college. He ain't got no F in college.
He ain't got no F in college. He ain't got no college.

Speaker 4 He could have been a master in the game. But he was like, nah, man, my family, me, and I'm going to be doing stuff on the side.
You know what I'm saying? I'm going to be good with my money.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take care of my body, man. He is like the blueprint I feel like the youth should follow in terms of how to manage, how to manage being an athlete.

Speaker 4 And whatever else you want to be at a high level and still keep your head on straight. And I feel like what Kobe is,

Speaker 4 Kobe is the terminator. Like, you know, he out there Jordan Claws was just like, I'm going to fast and my job is to kill you.
You meet John Wick on the court. He like, yo, man,

Speaker 4 yo, y'all, y'all killed my puppy before the game. And then he gonna go in there and make sure the job's not done.

Speaker 4 So, yeah.

Speaker 4 Big, we got a fun. We got a fight coming up next year.
It's going to be in San Francisco. James Harrison in an MMA fight taking on Ocho.
Who you got? Were you really doing this, Ocho?

Speaker 15 Man,

Speaker 15 I'm finna beat the brakes off him, man.

Speaker 4 I feel like Ocho has been waiting to fight somebody for a long time, man. He has.
He has.

Speaker 15 Listen, hey, Tony, I just want to show Ms. Skills there, man.
I want to show Mask. I want to show all the work I've been doing behind the scenes.
Everybody sees me as a jokester.

Speaker 15 They see the entertainment. They see the laughs and, you know, the he, he, ha, ha, ha.
But there's another, there's another side that nobody gets to see, okay.

Speaker 15 And I'm waiting to preview that, you know, on whatever night we do have this bout. And I need people of smaller size and stature to understand you don't have to be scared.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 15 bigger, the bigger, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And at times, if you stand up to those that you think are intimidating, you will see that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Hey, anybody can get knocked out, man.
Anybody can get it. You know what I'm saying? Thank you.

Speaker 4 Thank you. What's your record off the court, out the ring? What's your record?

Speaker 4 Uh, right now, uh, in the ring, one and oh,

Speaker 4 uh,

Speaker 15 on the street, five and two.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 I respect it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 15 I lost twice. You know, I ain't gonna sit here and lie.
I lost twice.

Speaker 4 I respect it. Now, now, let me ask you this: did you lose the first two and then come back with the five straight? Or was the two losses in the midst of the five or in the seven?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I lost the first one

Speaker 15 and i went on like a

Speaker 4 a winning streak yeah and then i got i got caught on i got caught on the back end

Speaker 4 on the back end so your last street fight was an l

Speaker 4 yeah oh man you had to go to sleep on that l looking at the ceiling fan like yeah it's all it's all good it's all good i'm gonna redeem myself i'm gonna redeem myself though oh you're gonna take it out you're gonna take it out on debo yeah you can't listen and you can't win them all i don't care who you are yeah that's right now hey if you fight them up you ain't gonna get you now eventually they'll get you they'll get you.

Speaker 4 Hey, they're gonna get you. Yo, you know.

Speaker 4 That's why I quit why I was ahead. I like 3-0.
I'm good. Are you 3-0 on the street? I'm 3-0.
Hey, I'm 3-0.

Speaker 4 I'm done. I don't got too old to fight now.
That's how you tap out. You're like, you know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just me and Robin. I ain't had a fight since I was 25.

Speaker 4 So, but this is what I tell people. Hey, babe, this is what I tell people.
I say, I don't even know if I can fight anymore. But you probably don't want to find out.
Hell no, man.

Speaker 4 That's that's that's a long way to have you be like, but if you do lose, I don't know, bro.

Speaker 4 Hey, that's a good one. That's funny.
Hey, babe, we appreciate it, man. Best of luck, man.
Congratulations on all your success. Hey, uh, anytime, I'm gonna catch you.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna catch you at one of these shows. Hopefully, we somewhere in the same area, and I can get out to one of your shows, man, because I uh I really love what you're doing, man.

Speaker 4 And so, uh, congratulations. Thanks for joining us, and we're gonna check you out down the road.
All right, man, I appreciate y'all, man. Thank you, man.
Thanks for the strategy.

Speaker 4 I think, bro, a long time ago, too, bro.

Speaker 4 Hey, your podcast. You want to plug your pod? Oh, absolutely.
So I got two podcasts. I got two podcasts.
I got a solo joint called Verbal Cardio.

Speaker 4 You can catch that wherever you get your podcast or Tony Baker Comedy on YouTube. And I got my other podcast, the Ball Brothers podcast, that I do with my bro Kev on Sage.

Speaker 4 And we do that together. So we drop those every Tuesday.
And that's definitely where you get your podcast from as well. And y'all should have Kev on here, man.
He was killing on here, too, man.

Speaker 4 Bet, we're going to look to do that. All right, y'all.
For sure.

Speaker 4 All right. Appreciate it, man.
All right, for sure.

Speaker 4 Yo.

Speaker 4 I don't know how to get off of here, though.

Speaker 4 Leave the chat. Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, that was, that was, that was, that was great.

Speaker 4 That was great. I mean, the guest, we had oh, TJ and

Speaker 4 Bake,

Speaker 4 they were unbelievable. But back to this LeBron and Pat McAfee.
Like you said, Ocho, we're not used to seeing LeBron James sit down for an extended period of time. Normally,

Speaker 4 like when he's in the finals or he's in the playoffs, he would sit down.

Speaker 4 That's like 10 minutes. And it's always basketball related too, huh? It's always basketball related.

Speaker 15 He's literally talking about other stuff going on in life. He's being vulnerable, letting people in, something he's never, never, ever done before.

Speaker 15 Players like that, of his magnitude, of his status that allows the world and the public to see what he wants you to to actually sit down for a change i guarantee you if they were to do the numbers on how many people watch that that pat backerby show i bet it's astronomical

Speaker 4 crazy yeah because it's something he's never done right

Speaker 4 and uh you know and to see and to see like you said to see him but that just lets you know that He and for me, looking at him, considering that he had ever, ever done anything like this before, to think about how many people have criticized him.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And he's never, ever done it before.
So that lets you know he had gotten to a place that he's like, I've had it up to here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I don't know if he knew, I don't think he knew Stephen A was going to come to the game, but he had it in his mind. If he ever saw Stephen A, he was going to step to him.

Speaker 15 But uh, he got Stephen A' number. You got a text or call him.

Speaker 15 If there was an issue, you're going to text or call him.

Speaker 4 They communicate with each other.

Speaker 15 Obviously, they have

Speaker 15 some sort of relationship.

Speaker 4 No, they don't.

Speaker 4 You don't think so? No.

Speaker 4 Okay. Well, my bad.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 like you said, I mean.

Speaker 4 What do you mean, no, they don't now? As opposed to the phone.

Speaker 4 I don't think they've ever had a relationship where they pick up the phone and they talk to each other like that. Oh, I don't think they've ever had that type of relationship.

Speaker 4 Do I think they've been cordial to each other?

Speaker 4 I remember, I think I saw something on an old clip, maybe with YouTube, where Stephen actually sat down and he interviewed LeBron.

Speaker 4 But I don't think they're in a situation where they like pick up the phone. They have each other.
They can call each other like that. I don't know if any LeBron is maybe teammates.
And it could.

Speaker 4 I could be wrong. I could be wrong.
I could be totally wrong. But I don't know if LeBron has his number or he has LeBron's number.
LeBron is, you know, very, very, very,

Speaker 4 LeBron rock with who he rocked with. And I think once you get to this level,

Speaker 4 if you hadn't, if you haven't developed a friend by now, LeBron James ain't letting you in his circle. Right.

Speaker 4 It's really that simple. So

Speaker 4 he got his friends. You know, Rich is his agent.
Maverick is his

Speaker 4 chief of staff.

Speaker 4 Mav is one of his business partners.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to think who else he rocks. Chris Paul,

Speaker 4 he's very close to Chris Paul. I think he's the grand, grand,

Speaker 4 godfather to run a CP3 that I think is vice versa, same thing with CP.

Speaker 4 But other than that, I don't think LeBron has a whole, a whole lot of what we call,

Speaker 4 I look at those guys like I look at Bucket, like I look at Bucket and Burns. Right.
He ain't got a whole lot of Bucket and Burns in his life.

Speaker 4 You ain't got a whole lot of, you know, TJ, your boy, you rock with TJ or T.O., you ain't got a whole lot of them, yeah.

Speaker 4 Nah, and I look at LeBron, and I think LeBron is kind of like that, but uh, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, everybody's made their point.

Speaker 4 Yeah, LeBron was upset what he said, Stephen. They said what I was trying to say.

Speaker 4 Sometimes things get lost in translation, it is what it is. But at the end of the day,

Speaker 4 I think we've got a we've got a lot of juice.

Speaker 4 I think both have kind of squeezed that orange, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And got a lot of juice out of it. And then LeBron took an aim at Wendy, Brian Winhorse saying, this guy says he's my best effing friend.
These guys are just weird.

Speaker 4 I don't know if Wendy's ever said. I think Wendy went to the same school he went to, Ocho.

Speaker 4 I don't think I've never heard. I could be wrong.
Guys, hell, I was on Undisputed for seven years. I didn't hear everything Wendy said.
As a matter of fact,

Speaker 4 I didn't watch anything on anywhere. All I watched was the games that were on ESPN.
I don't watch any other debate shows.

Speaker 4 I don't watch any other shows that do what I do when I'm going to be talking about something because I don't want what they say to creep in what I'm going to say. So I don't watch it.

Speaker 4 So Wendy, Chad, if he said that he was LeBron's best friend, I apologize. But I don't recall.
And if I misspeak, I apologize to you guys.

Speaker 4 But I don't believe Wendy has said that he's LeBron's best friend. I think because he's covered LeBron for so long, and I think they went to the same school, St.
Vista, St. Mary.

Speaker 4 He says, I think he said, I might probably know him better than anyone else. But I don't get why, I mean, he would say that about Wendy.

Speaker 15 Man, you never know. I think,

Speaker 15 like I said, LeBron is probably, LeBron is fair enough.

Speaker 4 He's on.

Speaker 15 I'm not saying he's on the way out the door, but he's on the tail end of everything.

Speaker 15 And now he's opening up a little bit more, doing things out of character that he normally wouldn't do, which is giving the people what they want, letting us in, you know, giving us a glimpse of what's inside the world and mind of LeBron King James.

Speaker 15 And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 I hope he does more of it.

Speaker 15 I hope other athletes do more of it. You know what? I wish LeBron, I wish LeBron was like Jeff Teague.

Speaker 15 Have you ever sat and listened to Jeff Teague tell stories?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 15 LeBron would, it would be it would be an honor for him to take a page out of jeff team's book and be that bone open and open and just just just give it just give it the stories i i would love that

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 uh lebron talked about his relationship with mj while he still has immense respect for jordan the pair don't talk much these days i think that would change when he retires from nba saying jordan intense competitive spirit is why the two don't talk much now we all know mj even if you don't know him personally personally, he's one of the most ruthless competitors there is.

Speaker 4 And until I'm done, and he doesn't have to look at me run up and down that court wearing the 23, every time my name is mentioned, it's mentioned with his.

Speaker 4 He's like, I don't want to effing talk to you.

Speaker 4 Do you agree, Ocho?

Speaker 4 I mean, that's dope.

Speaker 15 That's dope. Listen, that's the competitor, the competitive nature in MJ.
I think it's understandable, especially when it comes to him. I think he's

Speaker 15 not closed off, but MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense.

Speaker 15 MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense. I think their relationship will be much better and a lot closer once LeBron is done playing.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 15 They go play golf together, go play golf together, smoke cigars, you know, have a little, have a little wine, whatever it is that they do.

Speaker 15 But right now, while LeBron is actively playing, I don't think him and MJ,

Speaker 15 just outside of playing the game of basketball and being successful businessmen, there's not much for them to talk about, right?

Speaker 4 The only friend I know Jordan got is Oak.

Speaker 4 I mean, Oak is his guy. Now, I've been around Jordan a little bit, and he is ultra, ultra competitive.
First thing got me, I mean, I want, hey, you want to play cards? No, I don't want to play cards.

Speaker 4 Because, you know, Jordan games, you got to come down with at least 100, 100, 100 grand, 200 grand in cash. Oh, yeah, you don't play.
He do that.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I say, bro, you're not fit to have me. You're not fit to have me living on the streets.
I love my house.

Speaker 4 It ain't yours, but I ain't trying to keep up with with you. No, no, I don't, I don't play no $5,000 or $50,000 a hand.
Hell no.

Speaker 4 No, bro, bro. Guess what? As long as they make shoes with that logo, you got money coming in.
I ain't in the NFL no more. I ain't got no more money coming in.

Speaker 4 You know, I was 35 years. I can draw my pigeon at 62.
So I got another five years before I can get that Ocho before I take a pill of it. Hell no, I ain't gambling with you.

Speaker 4 As a matter of fact, I'm mad you asked me that. you know damn well i ain't got no money

Speaker 4 no i'm gonna let i'm gonna let you in i'm gonna let you oh because i think they play guts it's kind of like bo-ray you don't play bo-ray no sir no sir

Speaker 4 or in between but nah hell nah

Speaker 4 he also uh uh uh lebron talked about yannis on p-mac you tried to tell me yannis wouldn't be able to play in the nba games in the 70s yannis would have had 250 points in a game in the 70s But let me ask you, see, you transporting Giannis today back then.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Do y'all really know what they did? Did y'all see those fights? How many people got to go down the lane? See, the stuff that they called, they called foul now, that wasn't no foul.

Speaker 4 There was nobody getting suspended for slapping the ish out of somebody. There was no, I mean, there was no, I mean, what did

Speaker 4 Carl Malone put 44 stitches in Isaiah head?

Speaker 4 You still think you want to come down the lane? Do y'all remember

Speaker 4 the finals in 84? When Larry, when Larry Burke, when's that? Kevin McKel snatched Kurt Rambus ass out the sky? Yeah. And it wasn't a flagrant, it wasn't nothing.
And nobody was suspended.

Speaker 4 You can't take the modern play because, ocho, you're talking about technology and you talk about the modernization. Yes, if you transform

Speaker 4 Giannis today and put him back then, looking not as

Speaker 4 yeah, what player couldn't?

Speaker 4 What player? If I take, oh, Joe, if I take you today, you know what you know, and the technology that you've been able to develop and put you back in the 70s, man. Ocho will kill it.
Yes, yeah,

Speaker 4 yeah,

Speaker 4 that's unfair. Yeah, I think from what it's just like it's unfair.
One more thing, Ocho, just like it's unfair to say, oh, man, if Jordan played today, he averaged 50.

Speaker 4 Let's, how about this? Let's leave everybody in the era in which they played in.

Speaker 4 Giannis plays in the two, to the 2010s and 2020s. LeBron has been in the 2000s, the 2010s, and now the 2020s.
Let's leave everybody that because it's unfair. Yeah.
It's unfair. Look, I get it.

Speaker 4 And it's, it's, it's, it's

Speaker 4 a conversation, but come on, because we're robbed. We're not, we're not being fair to the guys that played in that era.
That was great.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 because it's almost like if you talk about these guys like you're trying to minimize them and i get mad at the old guys for trying to minimize the current players guys

Speaker 4 you were great nobody's trying to rob you of that you were great

Speaker 4 these guys are great the guys in the 60s that were great the guys in the 70s were great guys in the 80s right

Speaker 4 But it's unfair, Ocho. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 4 I mean, listen, I understand understand what LeBron was saying.

Speaker 15 Obviously, he is

Speaker 4 exaggerated a little bit.

Speaker 15 But if you look at the players from back then, I know, just being honest from a technical standpoint, from a physical standpoint, I know what they did in between the lane and being physical and, you know, slapping and punching and all that.

Speaker 15 But you're thinking about Giannis and Giannis today.

Speaker 15 Oh, my goodness. The athletic.

Speaker 4 You got an opportunity to work on things. Guys

Speaker 4 didn't have modern medicine. They didn't have technology.
Think about when you ruptured Achilles. You were done.
You tore a knee. You were done.

Speaker 4 You had that big ass bulky knee brace, that big Dunjoy on.

Speaker 4 It's different now. We got modern medicine.
We know how to eat. We know how to train.
We have personal trainers. And Physio.

Speaker 4 Those guys in the 60s and 70s and 80s didn't have the money to have all of this stuff. Right.

Speaker 4 But Brian, when you're making $50 million in basketball and another $75, $80 million off the court, you can have a chef that prepares every meal to your specifications.

Speaker 4 You can have a physio. You can have a Mike Macias as LeBron, as excuse me, as Jordan had Tim Grover.
Tim and I, Tim and I, we still, we text a lot now.

Speaker 4 But it's different. It's not fair that you try to compare this era to that era or that era to this era.

Speaker 4 You're right.

Speaker 4 You're right.

Speaker 4 Oh boy. Damian Lilly was diagnosed with blood clots in his right calf.
He's the third player this year to have blood clot issues. In 2022,

Speaker 4 the playoffs, no Chris Middleton. In 2023, Giannis plays two out of five games.
In 2024, Dame and Giannis both were injured. Dame is out indefinitely.

Speaker 4 Should the Bucs be thankful that Giannis had all-time finals run in 2022, I mean, 2021.

Speaker 4 Because it seemed like ever since then, at some point in time, a key player has been injured. Chris Middleton was injured.
Then there was a couple of years that Giannis was injured.

Speaker 4 And then you had Giannis and Dame both injured. And now Dame is injured.
And the Bucs are not going anywhere

Speaker 4 with just Giannis. First of all, he's not going to be at the Cavs without him.
And he's not going to be able to beat, he's not going to be able to beat the Celtics.

Speaker 4 He damn, hell, he wasn't going to probably be able to beat the Celtics with Dame. With Dame.
Let alone with it. Without him, I'm not so sure they could beat the Knicks.
without Dane.

Speaker 4 The days of one guy dominating a series and winning the whole, that's over. You forget all about that.

Speaker 15 Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate. Obviously, it's very, very serious.

Speaker 15 When Mayama has something similar to this, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if the diagnosis is exactly the same, but obviously it's a blood clot.

Speaker 4 I'm glad they were able to catch it.

Speaker 15 It sucks. It sucks for the Bucs.
It sucks for the organization. And it most definitely sucks for Damian Leonard and his family.

Speaker 15 I'm hoping a speedy recovery for him, especially something like this is very, very serious, especially when it comes to.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, blood thinners. And you're probably going to, you'll be a blood thinner the rest of his life.
Damn.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 that sucks, man.

Speaker 15 I hope it gets better fast, man.

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Speaker 4 Ocho,

Speaker 4 you're going to be upset.

Speaker 4 According to full rules report sent to the NFL teams this week, this

Speaker 4 is now 15-yard penalty. It's being is being considered a violent gesture.
So every time you know how to CD and all the guys like the

Speaker 4 week, you know what?

Speaker 15 I'm not even going to upset myself. I'm not even going to upset myself because whatever the competition committee or whoever's responsible for this, and making the rules still

Speaker 15 they all about control taking away the NFL NFL stands for No Fun League.

Speaker 15 And they continue to strike and continue to find ways to take fun away from the game and allow players not to be them individual selves. But, you know, attendance was down, right? If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 15 But y'all go ahead and do it your way.

Speaker 4 Hey, Ocho,

Speaker 4 they give me $60 million. I'll go out there in a tuxedo.

Speaker 4 I mean, oh Joe, I mean, you think about that. That buddy, Ocho, you made good money.
Ocho, the joker's making six, seven times what you made. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 And you think about what you made and not

Speaker 4 six exit. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay. Hey, oh, Joe, I'm going to have everything.
I'm going to have everything all nice and deep up. Tuck my shirt in, pull them socks up nice.
Hey, I don't want no problems.

Speaker 4 I don't want no problems in that field.

Speaker 15 I tell you one thing.

Speaker 15 If I was playing in today's era, all the stuff I was doing back then, I'd still be doing it now.

Speaker 4 You still do it? Oh, man. Plus some.
I don't get no penalty.

Speaker 4 I ain't gonna do nothing to get my team a penalty, but you know.

Speaker 15 I never got my team no penalty.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna talk some. I'm gonna talk ish now.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 You can't say the end word, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I know. Can you imagine if we was playing during the social media era?

Speaker 4 We don't say the end word on that field. Oh, yeah.
You heard me, you heard me?

Speaker 15 Can you imagine if we was playing during the social media era?

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 15 Man, listen.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Boy.

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 4 Not me.

Speaker 15 May you, I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline.

Speaker 4 We played Philly.

Speaker 15 I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline in the middle of a preseason game. That was the beginning of social media era for me in 2009.

Speaker 15 Can you imagine? Man, I'd be, man, listen, I'll score a test out and go live on Instagram.

Speaker 4 Oh, who?

Speaker 4 I told you.

Speaker 4 You go on, Joe. I'll take that time.

Speaker 4 But see, I did the celebration where I pretended like I had a phone. Joe Horn actually went and hear the phone.
Hold the phone and pull the phone out.

Speaker 4 I say, pretty soon, somebody goes, hey, I ain't going to lie one time. I'm going to say, look, I'm going to send $100,000.

Speaker 4 I'm going to call Uber Eats. Uber Eats going to bring me a pizza on the sideline.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 I would say, look here, I would tell my agent, my financial pizza. I said, look, I'm sending $100,000 aside because I know I'm going to get fine.

Speaker 4 He's going to bring me a pizza. Hey, that's that's a good one right there.

Speaker 15 And listen, today's game, I will push the envelope. I really, they allow everybody to celebrate.
They allow, they allow group celebrations, but everybody's doing the same stuff. Nothing is authentic.

Speaker 15 Nothing is organic. They're doing stuff they see on TV.
They're doing stuff they see on TikTok. You get that.
Oh, the NFL is all about fan engagement, right? Well, this is what y'all want.

Speaker 15 You want the fans to enjoy the game and have fun?

Speaker 4 No, we tell y'all how to engage the fans. Don't you try to come up with something, OG.
Oh, no, no. Oh, I'm coming up with something.

Speaker 15 I'm going going to push the envelope.

Speaker 15 Don't let me score in the north or south end zone.

Speaker 4 Don't let me be playing away.

Speaker 15 Man, I'm pulling the fan out of the end zone, man. We're going to sit there and do the kid and play.
I'm going to put them right back in the stands. Can you imagine?

Speaker 4 Man, you're going to get the fan fold out. You know, the fan can't step on the field, man.

Speaker 4 That is a memory. That is a memory.

Speaker 15 I promise you, if I was playing today,

Speaker 15 whatever game I score, I'm telling you, I will pull a fan out the stands in the north or south end zone, pull them down,

Speaker 15 and do the kid and play. That will be iconic because it's something that's never been done before.
Everybody's doing stuff now that you can celebrate. They just repeating the same stuff over and over.

Speaker 15 Somebody has to push the envelope and make it fun. Make it fun.

Speaker 4 All right, OJo. It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for QA.

Speaker 4 Matthew

Speaker 4 testify.

Speaker 4 Ask, Ask.

Speaker 4 Is it still the Lakers in five, though? Yeah.

Speaker 4 We ain't running. We ain't ducking no smoke.
We got something for the Bulls, too. We're going to pay the Bulls back.
I think that's Friday night. Is it Friday night?

Speaker 4 When they pay the Bulls, Ash, Friday night or tomorrow night?

Speaker 4 I don't know when. It's tomorrow.

Speaker 4 Oh, damn.

Speaker 4 Oh, maybe I spoke too quick.

Speaker 4 Now, we got something for the the bulls. We're going to play Kobe White back, man.
Kobe White, Josh Getty, and Brucellos. Man, they did something bad to us.
We owe y'all. We owe y'all, Book.

Speaker 4 So we coming to the house that Jordan built. Gonna try to drop by 130 on y'all.
LeBron gonna go for about 40, 40, 10, and 6.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, Fruits for Life say Chad Johnson, Magic Johnson, Johnson and Johnson.

Speaker 4 Liggers and five.

Speaker 4 Triple X come sanity. Indy, Cindy, Wendy.

Speaker 15 Niggas and five.

Speaker 4 Woe said, no one wants to see my Clippers in the West for seven games, though.

Speaker 4 Clippers.

Speaker 4 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Hey, for real? Leota Rose said, what's up, Arkadocho? What's a dream vacation for both of you and where would you go?

Speaker 4 Dream vacation for me. I don't know.
Why y'all keep trying to get me to go on vacation with Ocho? Why y'all keep trying to get me to go on vacation with Prime? They are bad influences on me.

Speaker 4 What is it that y'all don't understand?

Speaker 4 I'm not a bad influence. I can't be a bad influencer.
You are.

Speaker 15 I think they were asking individually.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 as a matter of fact, hey, chat, I had a.

Speaker 4 He called you too because he called you before he called me. Yeah, he called me first.
Yeah, yeah, I talked to him because he couldn't get on.

Speaker 4 I was, I was actually, I was doing uh, I was doing first take when he called me.

Speaker 4 Asked me, say, you talking to Pran? I think, ah,

Speaker 4 uh, and he had called me, but I talked to him yesterday. I ain't gonna say what he said.
Well, you know what he's saying, because he told you the same thing. I ain't gonna say what he said.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Pran, shout out. What's the dream vacation? Where are we going, Ocho? Listen, I listen.
From an individual standpoint,

Speaker 4 we are polar opposites in the things we like.

Speaker 4 I want to go to Norway and I want to go to New Zealand.

Speaker 15 I want to swim with killer whales in the wild.

Speaker 4 You're not going to get in the water. I'm not.

Speaker 4 All the time I'm getting.

Speaker 4 I hadn't gotten to the bathtub in 35 years. What you just take showers? Yeah, take shower.
I ain't going to sit in there that dirty road and that water be dirty right back on you.

Speaker 4 Hell, you got to get in the shower to get the nah, get the scum up off you. No.

Speaker 4 Hell no.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 15 that's my dream. That's my dream.

Speaker 15 People in the chat, I don't know if you don't know, if you do know me, if you know me, you follow me for a while, you know how much I love killer whales. That's my spirit animal.

Speaker 15 My entire right leg, from the waist to my ankle, is tattooed with killer whales.

Speaker 15 And the last thing on my bucket list to do, you know, I do anything once, my last thing on my bucket list to do is to go to Norway or New Zealand and swim with killer whales in the wild.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 15 I'm going to do it. I don't know at what point,

Speaker 15 but that's

Speaker 15 when I talk about a dream of mine.

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord, have mercy. Oh, Joe.

Speaker 4 What happened?

Speaker 4 Look what LeBron posted.

Speaker 15 Who is that fighting?

Speaker 4 That's Stephen A. Boxer.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 God.

Speaker 4 He posted that for real.

Speaker 4 He just posted like eight minutes ago.

Speaker 4 Oh, oh, oh, see, hey, look at it, look at it, and then he posted the other one.

Speaker 15 Hold on, he egged it on now.

Speaker 4 He egged it on on purpose.

Speaker 4 Hey, Phew,

Speaker 4 come on now.

Speaker 4 Let that go.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 you know, you're all wrong with you, but let that go now. Come on now.

Speaker 15 I told you they weren't going to let it go. I told you that.
So now Stephen ain't going to respond. He got to respond tomorrow.

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 15 this is a good thing.

Speaker 4 Lord, have mercy. Oh, oh, LeBron.
Oh, LeBron. Oh, LeBron followed the kid, man.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 15 I didn't know he followed the, he followed the book. Okay.

Speaker 4 Appreciate that. Man, bro.
Come on, Bron. Come on.
Stall him, my brawn.

Speaker 4 Man, okay.

Speaker 15 And you see the caption?

Speaker 4 Womp, womp, womp.

Speaker 4 First of all, man, Stephen ain't got rotator cuffs. He got bad rotator cuff.
That's why he's swagger like that. He ain't fluid in the show.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Come on, bro.

Speaker 15 Hey, Braun, shout out.

Speaker 4 Ever since. Yeah, he just posted that like 10 minutes ago.
Yeah. Hey, ever since, hey, Chad, I don't know if y'all know.

Speaker 15 I'm sure y'all watch the show. Ever since Braun sent me

Speaker 15 that 50,000 point ball, man, he's been acting different, man.

Speaker 4 Love Alberta, bro.

Speaker 4 Do you like this new LeBron?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I like the new LeBron we're seeing right now. He probably watching.

Speaker 15 He probably in the chat.

Speaker 4 Ocho, Jay213 said, hey, Arcanocho, pick one to survive against for two minutes on a football field. An elephant, a grizzly bear, a silverback, or a hippo.

Speaker 4 That's easy.

Speaker 4 Which one? The elephant. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Elephant or the hippo? Because they ain't got no lateral movement. I'm just going to dodge.

Speaker 15 Yeah, but the elephant, forget that.

Speaker 4 I don't even want a chance to hippo.

Speaker 4 Naughty fam, yo, TJ

Speaker 4 still got that good hair.

Speaker 4 He is,

Speaker 4 what is TJ?

Speaker 4 Iranian? What is TJ? TJ is Iranian, isn't he?

Speaker 15 God, though, I can't even remember.

Speaker 4 I know, because he came on. He told me one time, because he used to come on.
He used to come on all the time on Undisputed in the early days.

Speaker 4 I forget, yeah, that's what I told him. Uh, uh, TJ tell me when TJ said we still look the same, no, God blessed us.
I said, No, God gave you still got your hair. Oh, you ain't been blessed like that.

Speaker 4 Nah, nah, I do.

Speaker 15 You want me to go?

Speaker 4 My hair is growing out right now, huh?

Speaker 4 Don't you let that thing grow out.

Speaker 15 Matter of fact, you know, I'm gonna let it, I'm gonna let it grow, and I'm gonna get, I'm gonna just get it tapered. I'm gonna get a taper.

Speaker 4 Oh, Cho,

Speaker 4 that man gonna start edging you up at the 50-yard line.

Speaker 4 What the pick, you're talking about.

Speaker 4 Get back here. I mean, I mean, mine, I need to, hey, Ocho, why we need to go out here, Booja.
We need to go to Turkey. Hey, hold on.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 Listen, I can go to get...

Speaker 15 Matter of fact, you know what I should do for one of the live shows, huh? What?

Speaker 15 Get the man unit with the waves.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 Nah, but you got, but see, you could do that because you got to shave your hair so it stays stick down. So you could.
I can't do that. I ain't shaving mine off because it might not come back.

Speaker 4 You remember when

Speaker 4 Audrey Agassiz had that hair? And then when he shaved it off, it's all gone. It ain't come back no more.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Check hook says, James Harrison finna fold Ocho like a vacuum cord.

Speaker 15 Hey, you know what, matter of fact, whoever just said that,

Speaker 15 I'm gonna see you in person.

Speaker 15 I'm gonna see you in person. I'm gonna see you.
I'm gonna see you.

Speaker 4 Big blue, Ocho,

Speaker 4 best receiver duo Matthew Stafford has played with Megatron and Tate or Devontae and Puka.

Speaker 15 Well, Megatron and Tate, because we haven't seen Devontae and Puka yet. We know what Devontae is.

Speaker 15 We know what he can do. We know what he's done in the past.

Speaker 4 We haven't seen it yet with the Rams.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Justify and say, hey, for 50 million, I go to hell.

Speaker 4 I said that old first tape. We was talking about something.

Speaker 4 Like, what guy was like, yeah.

Speaker 4 50 mail out a lot of bread, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Dope DG say, what's up, Unc and Ocho? Ocho, and Ash with WrestleMania approaching. You should ask some wrestling and WrestleMania questions

Speaker 4 for

Speaker 4 you with that, with stuffing.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, I mean, I know a little WrestleMania, but I know like before

Speaker 4 it became the WWL or the WWE.

Speaker 4 We go back to the Georgia Championship, but I'll brush up on it. Me, myself, and I said, Uncle should have known a sports trivia expert was going to discuss playing.

Speaker 4 Glenn and Lyle Blackwood played in 81 Dolphins from 81 to 86. Dunk on Unk.

Speaker 4 You remember that?

Speaker 4 The no-name defense. That's what they would call the no-name defense.
No-name defense?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Glenn and Lyle Blackwood. Michael, no one, flying spirit tomorrow, not by choice.
Any advice or anything I should expect? Never flown with your Ocho. What what should he expect?

Speaker 15 Listen, I fly with Spirit all the time. What you expect, you can expect good service.
You can expect great service.

Speaker 15 You can also expect Wi-Fi.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 15 All right. Let me know how it is on tomorrow's show.

Speaker 4 Huh? I get that on the airline. I fly.

Speaker 15 Yeah, but ours is cost-efficient.

Speaker 4 Can't put a price on my life. But anyway,

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