Nightcap - Hour 1: Celtics sold for $6Bil + Penny Hardaway joins the show

Nightcap - Hour 1: Celtics sold for $6Bil + Penny Hardaway joins the show

March 23, 2025 47m Episode 379 Explicit

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NBA stories of the week including the Boston Celtics being sold for $6 billion, Memphis basketball coach Penny Hardaway joining the show, and more!

04:16 - Celtics sold for $6 billion
15:33 - Penny Hardaway joins the show
35:34 - Lakers vs. Nuggets Recap
43:00 - Lakers vs. Suns Recap

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The Boston Celtics will have a new owner for the first time in more than two decades. Bill Chisholm, the managing partner of Symphony Technology Group, STG, will buy the franchise at a price of $6.1 billion.
The sale price is the largest for a North American franchise, topping the $6.05 billion.

The group led by Josh Harris paid for the Washington Commanders in 2023 and far surpassing the $4 billion that Phoenix Suns got from Matt Ishba when he brought the team the same year. the Grossbeck Group

brought the Boston Celtics

Ocho for $360

million and now

sells it for almost 20

times. Gross Bank Group brought the Boston Celtics, Ocho, for $360 million and now sells it for almost 20 times in price.
In other words, what they call in business, 20X. Ocho, if you had, let's say, $10 billion.
Talk to me. You got $10 billion.
Would you buy a buy a sports not only would i buy a sports franchise i'm buying three sports franchises and i'm gonna what what which one where i'm gonna tell you where i'm gonna go first of all you listen to me okay stay with me i'm listening if i had 10 billion dollars for one i'm going to talk to mike Brown and Katie and Duke Tobin. That didn't happen.
Go somewhere

else. That's fair.
Mom and Pop, they ain't

selling that. Boom.
So if I can't get that,

I'm going to Naples, Italy.

I'm going to

buy Napoli. You know my love,

enthusiastic passion for the game of soccer

and the beautiful game. I want to

own a franchise. I don't want to be

a minority owner. I'm talking about

majority owner. I want to own Napoli.
Do everything I want. Do everything in my power.
Bring in all type of players. Because I'm going to have the money.
I'm going to have the money to get the kind of team I want. Bring in superstars.
Second thing I'm going to do. I'm going to buy the Miami Heat.
I'm going to buy the Miami Heat. You think Mick Harrison goes, hold on.
You just saw what the Celtics went for?

How much money do you think you'll have

to spend to get Napoli? Oh, to get

Napoli? Oh, that's a good one. I'm not sure how much

that franchise and the NTT

will cost me, but again, I'm going to get the

Miami Heat. I'm going to have to remove

Pat Riley because Pat Riley's

way of doing things isn't

conducive

for business with today's era of players. And this is Miami.
This is Miami, and players don't want to come play in Miami. Miami is a melting pot for ethnicities and culture.
How does nobody want to come play here? No superstars. Listen, we got Bam.
We got Tyler Harrow. You drafted him.

Again, I understand that, but we can't get any superstars here.

We need one more. Jimmy left.

So, boom, that's two. Napoli and the Miami Heat.

Now, I'm not sure how much I'm going to have left over because I don't know how much Napoli would cost me.

Chad, you would probably know better than I can

because you can do your homework for me real quick

while we're talking about it.

And the rest of that I'm going to sit on and I'm going to open up a cigar lounge. Oh my goodness.
That's it. 980 mil? So you got so basically they're going to probably up charge.
So 10% so they're going to charge you a billion. So they're going to charge you a billion 1.1.
Okay Okay, so now you got 8.9. Okay.
NFL, you want to get an NFL team. You told me I can't.
What about the Dolphins? You think Steven Ross will sell me the Dolphins? He might be willing to sell you a majority share. How much are we talking about with a majority share of the Dolphins? What do you think? Probably somewhere between two and a half and three and a half that's done that is done and listen I'm manifesting this I'm manifesting this I hope from my mouth to God's ears maybe it can happen maybe.
Maybe it won't. Let me dream big.

I could dream big. If I shoot for the moon and I fall

short, ain't no telling what's

going to happen.

Normally, Ocho,

if like a family-owned

business, there need to be internal

chaos.

We saw

that with the Bolings. They ended up selling

the franchise.

But if there's not chaos,

I don't believe the Cowboys will ever go for sale Jerry Jones is going to have that in his trust that the Cowboys are never to be sold now once he's gone I mean hey I'll be a saying but like Mike Brown his dad started that franchise after he got out of Cleveland. That's where the Browns get their names from.
And now he went to Cleveland. Art Modell fired him and so forth and so on.
Mr. Modell brought the team.
And then he started the Bengals. Me personally, Ocho, I don't believe they'll sell it.
Nah, they wouldn't.'s just a thought. Listen, where I was drafted, where I created, I left my footprint, my stamp, and just knowing that I could just be an owner of the place where I played at, it would be just...
Maybe they tell you a minority share. Maybe they sell you 10, 20%.
Because it's just hard for me to see like uh even though i think she just passed virginia mccaskey who's the daughter of george hallis who's who found the bears they've only had one owner the steelers and the roonies the steelers have since 1933 now there was one year i think the mcclatchies uh owned it and they ended up getting it back so the Roonies have been so basically since 1933 okay you got the Maras and the Tishes they co-owned the Giants now it's looked like they're willing to sell a minority stake but no controlling aspects so basically you know you're going to get some money but you get no say in the day-to-day operations or coaching and hiring and buying things like that. So I'm looking at team.
I like that. I don't need, I don't need no say in day-to-day operations.
I want to be in the war room. Okay.
I want to be in the war room. Listen, I also, I have an eye for talent.
I have an eye for talent. I know what things need to look like.
Listen, I just want to give my suggestions. Okay, I want to put on my suit and tie.
I want to have my Bengals pin. I want to be on the golf court with Mike Brown when we go to training camp.
We're watching the players, you know. What you call it? An owner's meeting? An owner's meeting.
I'm at the owner's meeting owners meeting you know nice in my suit

in my suit and my tie

what else

NFL combine me and Duke Tobin

I'm sitting there with my pen and pad

you know I got my stopwatch when everybody

running the party

I mean most of the only owners

there is Jerry

and I don't even know if Jerry showed up this year

did Jerry go to the combine this year

normally owners don't go they send their general manager

they send everybody

general managers your scalp

Now, let't go. They send their general managers.
They send general managers, your scout personnel, things of that nature. But that's me.
I want to be hands-on. I want to be hands-on.
If I get any type of minority share of the Bengals, you know, God willing, if God wants to bless me with some type of fortune that comes out of nowhere, but listen, I know Mike KD, Troy if this happens please allow me to put in you know and be a part of where it all started I think that would be a great thing the fans would love that huh? Can you imagine me being minority owner of the Bengals also owning Nap Napoli. It takes a lot, bro.
It takes a lot of bread. And then having a piece of the Miami Heat, too.
Woo-hoo-hoo. Hey, and you know the good thing about it is? Someone like me, if I was able to attain that type of wealth, I'm one of the few people in the world that wouldn't change.
Wouldn't change a thing.

I'd still be the same old Ocho. You need to find me.
I'm at McDonald's.

You want to find me, you can find me at the Cuban spot.

You know, just doing the same thing I always

do. I like that.

I like that. From my mouth to

God's ears.

You might better hope

maybe buy the Vegas franchise for an NBA

team or hope they get another team.

You know, have somebody

want to start another franchise, but it's

Thank you. You might better hope maybe buy the Vegas franchise for an NBA team or hope they get another team, you know, have somebody want to start another franchise.
But it's hard. You're more apt to get somebody to move than they make it an odd number, 33.
Because you got 32 teams and you got eight, 14 divisions. So that seems to be – NFL kind of seems to be set.
It looks like, if anything, the NBA will add two franchises, One in Vegas, and it seems like Seattle NFL kind of seems to be set. It looks like if anything, the NBA will add two franchises, one in Vegas and it seems like Seattle is kind of the favorite since they lost to Supersonics and you got Vegas.
They got a football team. They got a soccer team.
Excuse me. They got a hockey team.
Baseball is coming in a couple of years. They got a WNBA squad.
So they'll have the major sports they'll now they get a basketball team and it looks like that thing gonna go for five six billion dollars hey hey guys i got coach on the way can y'all hear me yeah we got you coach yeah i got you you got us yep i got y'all okay uh he's about to Hey, what's your name? Kirk. I fucking love you.
Yes, sir. I love you.
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Guys, we're getting ready to get joined by Had Injuries, not robbed him.

He was one of the great players in NBA history.

He's well on his way to being the guy that talked about he was the second coming of Magic Johnson.

A big point guard, not only could score, but he could facilitate.

Here he is, one cent himself, Mr. Penny Hardaway.

Penny, you got us? Yeah, Kirk Kirk trying to get it right, my man. Kirk was just on.
There it is. What's up? What's up? Penny was good.
Man, we good. We good.
Penny, you still owe me a one-on-one, man. What's good? Hey, Ocho, you can get that.
Okay, let me know. Hey, listen, I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do for you.
I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to spot you five.
You hear me? I appreciate that. I'm going to take those five.
Penny was a four-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA selection, and he's the head coach of the Memphis Tigers. Penny, you match up tomorrow against CSU, Colorado State.
You feel comfortable with what you've been able to –

your team going into this game because, you know,

it's one and done now, Penny.

It ain't no, hey, we get ready, hey, we got to go back to work the next day.

You lose this game, your season's over.

Yeah, we understand the magnitude of this, man,

but this is what you want when you – you know, this is what you live for.

When you're an athlete, you live for these days.

So we understand the magnitude of what's going on. We understand that they're a really good team.
But we are also. And at the end of the day, we've got to come and compete.
They have a great offense, and they play physical on defense. All of that goes along with March Madness, man.
We're ready for it. Hey, I'm going to talk about your NBA career real quick.
Looking back at your NBA days, what are some moments on the court that still inspire your approach to the game today as a coach? Looking back at my game and how it inspired me as – Yeah, looking back at your NBA days, what are some moments on the court back then that inspire your approach to the game as a coach out there in Memphis? Well, it's just kill mode. You know, for me, everything I did on the floor was kill mode.
So I coached the same way. I put that battery in the back of my guys' back, and I'm their biggest fans.
I push them out there and give them the confidence and say, hey, man, be in kill mode and attack mode the entire game. Y'all both are the same way, man.
You just got to – when y'all were on the field and I was on the court, every possession was to kill the dude that was in front of me. You're right.
Penny, let me ask you this, Penny, because I ask a lot of great players, you know, had Isaiah on and I have Coach Prime, who's a regular contributor. Penny, how do you do it when you're such a great player and the game seemingly came easy to you, even though you work, you can see things before they developed.
How do you have the patience to realize that, you know what, these guys are probably not going to be Penny Hardaway. How do you have the patience? Because you tell a kid something and then he effed up.
You go over this in practice and he effed up. You do it in film study and you're like, son, we went over this.
How do you have the patience to do what you do, Penny? Man, it's just one of those situations that we say back home was already understood, doesn't have to be explained. I understand that they won't be on the level mentally as me, so it doesn't have to be explained.
So what I do is I put them in positions to win offensively, and I put them in positions to win as a group defensively. So it's all about team, and then their individual gifts that they have.
I put them in those positions to be, to be great. And that's the best, that's the best thing to do for me.
I know when I played, I was God gifted. I could, I could play all over the court.
The coaches gave me the ball, but this guy might need a spot up. He might need a pin down.
He might need to play out of clothes out. This guy might need an ISO.
So to me, the gift that God gave me was realizing the strengths and putting those guys in their strengths the entire game. And then that patience comes along with that because I'm putting them in a position to win.
See, I like that. Did you hear what he just said? Understanding your players' weaknesses and your strengths.
Now, I'm not sure if it's easier to do as a basketball coach, but I wish from a football standpoint, especially at the highest level, if players or not players, if coaches, offensive coordinators understood

what their players did well, I think it would

make things much easier

being able to

manipulate what you like to do

based on your players' strengths.

So everyone could play, so offensively

everything could be a little bit better.

I love that mentality as a coach.

Yeah, for sure, man.

Because all these scouting reports are going to put them in their weaknesses, so we got to figure out a way to escape those weaknesses and put them in their strengths. I like that.
Penny, let me ask you this. The NIL or whatever the case may be, actives or whatever the case may be, it's made it a lot more difficult.
Because, Penny, you can't get on a coach and coach a kid like they coach you or like you

would want to coach because if you get too hard on them penny they're gonna jump in the portal on you no doubt penny how do you make sure you're trying to like make a kid understand or get a kid to understand son i'm trying to put you in the best position that i possibly can to help you succeed without them taking offense to it and going somewhere like well hey i'm not getting the minutes that I need. I'm going here.

Or somebody coming in and saying, son,

hey, I see not getting the minutes that I need.

I'm going here.

Or somebody coming in and saying, son, hey, I see you,

and I can give you $250,000.

I can give you $300,000.

How do you deal with that now, Penny?

Because it's a lot different than when you played.

I think that what I try to do is make it a partnership

and not be all 100% about me.

And when I give the guys the money, right,

when they come in as a basketball player, I'm going to try to make you as comfortable as possible, but then you've got to give me something as well. You know, the worst coaches to play for are the coaches that, all right, they're going to come in and change everything that you've ever done in your life and make you somebody that they didn't recruit or somebody that they didn't get out of free agency, right? So I'm not that coach.
When I get you and come and get Shannon Sharp and Ojo, I know who y'all are already. I'm going to put you in this situation and we're going to have a partnership.
It ain't going to just be all about me. And when you do that and you stand on the truth with everything that you tell this young man, then they respect that man.
And the respect factor goes a long way. You know when you respect your coach, you'll run through a wall.
You don't want no butthole coach. You don't want no coach that's going to be, you know, all about being anal all the time, being negative all the time,

and not really trying to see your side of things.

Because in today's game, you got to see the other kid.

You got to see his side.

In our era, the coach said what he said, and we just did it.

That was it.

Yeah.

You got it on?

Let me ask you this.

What happens when a player comes to you and says, Coach, I need more minutes. I ain't getting the minutes or I'm going to have to leave.
If he's not getting the minutes, that means he doesn't deserve the minutes. So I stand on the truth.
If you ain't getting the minutes you want, that means you ain't stepping up to the plate and putting the work in. We need to work on the unrequired hours as well, not just coming to practice and think you're going to get shots up, but what are you doing to affect winning positively, not negatively? You're affecting the winning negatively because you're not coming to the gym, you're not watching film, you're not getting extra work and waiting on your moment and being ready.
Staying ready so you don't have to get ready. A lot of these guys come to the gym during practice, they might make a couple bucks, but they don't sprint the lane.
They don't get a stick hand up. They don't take charges.
They're not playing tough, multiple efforts. And that's what's going to get you on the floor with me.
If you're not on the floor, then you're not stepping up to the plate to what we're needing you to do. And we give it to them in black and white.
We have non-negotiables. These are non-negotiables.
If you're not doing these non-negotiables at a high level, you can't get many minutes. And if you're getting minutes, it's going to be small until you get to the level of where you can do those at a high level.
And now with coaching that way, with that type of transparency, do the players react well like that as opposed to, you know, you got to think about it. Today's era, everybody is getting participation trophies.
They patting you on the back just for simply being a part of, even when you're not doing things the right way. Do they react well to that type of honesty and transparency? They react well to the truth because I love on them as well.
I'm going to be getting in the gym with you. If you're ready to get in the gym, I'm ready.
If you're ready to watch film, I'm ready. I'll take them out to lunch.
Whatever it needs to happen for us to get that connection to understand, I need you. But you got to do your part too.
You're just not going to be giving this. And I know what Shannon said, that they'll transfer.
But when you have that bond and you give them an opportunity, you meet me halfway, I'll meet you halfway. And you stand on the truth.
That truth is everything. They respect that more.
I've had the guys respect that more. You've been at Memphis now for seven seasons.
At any point in time in your NBA playing career, did you ever think you'd be a college coach or any coach? Nah, not really. be in tv i was gonna go to espn tnt and and do that thing i wasn't even thinking about coaching at all obviously i had the background being a point guard understanding the game and i've always loved teaching and developing players but never thought i was gonna be a college coach hey would you now i'm gonna say that i like the fact that you transitioned into coaching and

obviously you might you might have wanted to do tv with as much knowledge of the game that you do

have playing it at a very high level being very successful at it and now coaching like are there

any unexpected challenges you have being that you know the game so well at the collegiate level

uh yeah because you you you don't they don't see it like you you want them to see it like you

Thank you. You want them to see it like you.
But it's also a challenge to me to develop and teach until I get it. That's the drive for me, right? That's the drive for me to get this young man when he comes in in June to be ready by the time the season starts and as the season goes on to keep teaching him and see him develop into a really good player because every kid that comes to my my team that's been a good player somewhere else they become a great player here because I'm so invested in that in each young man on their skill set their mental off the court things it's a full-time job it's not just being a coach and when you when you did when you shot blue trips did you know much about shaq and what did you expect to come out of that movie did you did you ever think like damn man i sure wish i could play with this fella you know when i um we did uh we had an olympic festival it was like north south east west teams in the summertime it was held in minnesota and shaq and i played on the same team for like a half a summer, maybe a month, month and a half or whatever.
And we got to know each other, you know, a little bit. But Blue Chips, I used that platform to show Shaq who I was.
The whole being about that movie was to get Shaq to understand that he needed me. I auditioned for him, not the movie, to make it.
I did that every day. Have you ever thought about, man, if my knee, because I think you had a knee issue, you tried to come back, did you end up having microfracture on that knee? I did.
The microfracture took me out. I had seven knee surgeries all together, but the last one was microfracture.
That was it. Same knee, left knee.
If I'm not mistaken, I think that's where they drain into the bone. They drill into the bone, try to let it heal on its own.
And some people have had micro fracture, and it worked. I think Rod Woodson, he had micro fracture.
I think Bruce Smith had micro fracture, and they've had eight, ten-plus years of great play. It kind of robbed you of your lift, and now you've got chronic knee problems.

Did you ever think in your wildest dream when you first had this injury that this was the beginning of the end?

You know, I didn't, but the thing that was so crazy was I was playing in Phoenix,

and we were playing the Lakers.

The United Lakers won the championship in 2002,

and I was playing with a torn meniscus.

I tore my meniscus in the first round against San Antonio. And I kept playing, and I got a quarter zone shot every other day just to make it through the playoffs.
See, okay. And y'all know how that is, right? I do.
And I was playing with a torn meniscus. And Tim Duncan, who was much smarter than me, he set out that series and didn't play anymore and just kind of rested.
And you know what happened after that, his greatness or whatever. But it did rob me because after I got done with the Lakers series, I still was – I had spring.
I had quickness. If you looked in that series, I asked about 20 a game.
We took those guys to six games and obviously lost. After that, I didn't need the micro fracture.
I just needed that meniscus area prepared. And, man, I got that uh microfraction that took me out because I still had bouncing spring even though I was feeling some pain I still had my quickness I still had my power after that microfracture man my quad depleted and I never got my quad strength back like ever yeah that's the that's the biggest thing Penny when you have those surgeries it's the surrounding muscles is that to get that strength back.
And people realize that, oh, my knee feel good. But if that quad, if that hamstring, if that calf, if those attached muscles, if they're not, it's not going to fire and it's not going to be able to, it's your stability.
That's your stability. To be able to be able to sustain that up down.
Because you doing this every night. Back then, Penny, y'all played 75, at least 75 games.
It wasn't no low management where you take 15 games out, you miss 15, 20 games. You miss 15, 20 games, you were injured.
It wasn't no, oh, yeah, Penny got the night off because, you know, he doesn't play the back-to-back. He got to play three games in a week, so we going to give Penny the next game off.
There was none of that. No, there was none of that at all.
But the biggest thing about me, I was going to play for my fans. I knew people would come to the game to see me, so I wasn't missing no games.
I was really, really hurt. I like it.
I like it. Coach O.
I didn't ask all my good, juicy questions, but I'm good. I'm just ready for this one-on-one, boy.
That's it. We can get that in.
Penny, that's your – you grew up in Memphis. You played at Memphis.
You coach at Memphis. Is there a scenario where you could see yourself leaving Memphis? Man, that'd be tough.
That would be tough. I mean, everybody know I bleed blue, man.
And it got kind of rocky last year, so I didn't know where it was going to go. But honestly, I want to win a championship for my city.
I really do.

If something comes about,

we'll cross that road, but

everybody that knows me knows that blue

is in my heart, man.

Penny, tell a story how you got the name,

because I think you told the name your grandma was calling

you Pretty, and they

thought you said Penny.

So tell a story how you got the name.

I was living with my mother

until I was five

and then my mom left me

with my grandmother.

So when I moved to my mom's

area of the neighborhood,

she used to call me pretty.

And with her southern accent,

it sounded like Penny,

honestly.

And one day somebody

called my house

and was like,

can I speak to Penny?

Because they thought

she was saying,

you know, Penny.

She was like,

there's no Penny

that lives here.

And I was like,

grandmother, that's me. And that's how it just stuck from that point.
I just started letting everybody call me Penny. That's loud.
See, now we understand. Now y'all understand how Glorilla, how she sound.
She's from the same day. Yeah, Glorilla.
She's from the same area as Penny. Penny, thank you for joining us, bro.
Good luck tomorrow night. Good luck throughout the tournament.

And when you cut down the next, come back and join your boy.

I will.

And we're going to get that one-on-one.

I got you, baby.

Man, I salute you, baby.

All right, same, brother.

Hey, one more thing, Penny, before you go.

I need them Galaxy phone posits.

I know you got them here.

What size?

12.

No, 13.

13.

13.

13.

You got that coming.

You got that coming.

They're going to be there.

As soon as I get back home, I get them out. Appreciate take care no doubt alright alright Mr.
One send himself Penny Hardaway great dude man Ocho I don't know like this chat how many people remember watching Penny play but he was a wizard with the basketball he was supposed to be the next Magic Johnson a guy that was 6'7 and and a half. He could score the difference between him and Magic.
Magic couldn't score like Penny. Penny could really score the basketball and could play with his back.
But he was a big guard like Magic. Magic 6'9.
Penny 6'7. We hadn't seen point guards like that that could handle the ball like...
Handle it. And then think about him and Shaq.

Him and Shaq

in the pick and roll.

The lob. Penny getting downhill.

Can finish at the rim.

Everything. He had the mid-range.

Had a nice float game.

And that Andrew,

like he said, he said he just needed his meniscus

cleaned up. They ended up

doing micro-factor. And he never recovered.
He never recovered, Ocho. God, man, I hate injuries, man.
And you know sometimes guys get surgery, then you're like, damn, guys have back surgery. Look at Gronk.
Gronk had a back surgery in college. Went on, had a Hall of Fame career.
Like I said, Rod had micro-factor. Bruce Smith, if I'm not mistaken, had micro-factor.
They played another eight, nine years. Penny, it was downhill after that.
Go ahead, Ocho. I think about some of the injuries, man, to some of our greats.
Some of our greats were me, where they weren't able to finish their story. The Penny Hardaways, the Peter Warwick's, the Derrick Rose.
Brandon Roy, Greg Oden. They're the guys.
Like so many dudes. And I wish technology was a little bit more advanced when they were playing so they could finish their careers the way they should have because injuries have robbed us to some great stories, Uncle.
Some great unfinished stories. Because, you know, back then, Ocho, they did that big surgery.
They split you. You had everybody.
You remember when I first got into the league? You had that big scar right down the middle, that big zipper. But now to take the incision is so small, they done got the way they could.
They take part of your patella tendon to repair it. They do cadavers.
They do, man, technology, medical. Modern medicine has improved so much.
I mean, normally if you had a McKeely's, that was a death sentence. You had an ACL, that was a death sentence.
Now guys come back stronger, better than ever. Like, hold on.
Because look at Thomas Davis. Thomas Davis had three ACL surgeries and came back and played 15, 16 years.
Went to the Pro Bowl. Was, I think, a first or second team All-Pro.
Man, it was, you know, when you look at it, Ocho, it's – but to watch him because I'm old enough to remember. I remember him at Memphis.
I remember him going to Orlando because they made the swap. They traded Chris Webber because Orlando got back-to-back number one overall picks, and they ended up trading Chris C.
Webb. He ended up going to go, if I'm not mistaken, thank goodness, goes to Golden State, and then Orlando swaps out and they get Penny.
That thing was something of beauty. Damn.
That was a thing of beauty. What could have been? What could have been? We were getting where we couldn't pay the bill.
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They are the Bay Area. Lakers beat the Nuggets, 121-08, win their first straight game during the five-game homestand.
Yoke, Jamal Murray was out. LeBron Rui was out.
Luka, 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists. Luka, it's his 230-point game.
He had a 20-point quarter and a 20-point half. So he had it going early.
Austin Reeves had it going early. I mean, for like the first quarter, they could not miss a three.
They had 45 points in the first quarter. Stepped off the gas a little bit in the in the second quarter let them get back into the ball game stepped on the gas again on the third quarter blew the game open um i think the the nugget scored 31 32 points in the third quarter fourth quarter but it wasn't nearly enough yo excuse me luca 31 points nine rebounds seven assists his 230 point game game, Austin Reeves had 22.8 assists.
But I thought the Lakers played really well. They set the tempo early.
They didn't play down to the level of competition, nor two of their best players without. And sometimes you get that, Ocho.
The Warriors made that mistake the other night. They looked at it like, oh, Murray not playing.
Oh, Yoke not playing. And the next thing you know, you find

yourself with an L hung on you. But watching

the game, Mocho, what you thought about the Lakers and how they

looked tonight? I mean, it was impressive. It was

very impressive. Not only did Luka come out

and set the tone in the first quarter with 22

in the first quarter, actually, he set

Luka set

the tone for the game.

What he did in the first quarter,

coming out with 21 points in the first quarter. And everybody played well.
Most of the time, what happens is when you play a team that doesn't have a player like Murray playing and the other Jokic. How do you say it? What's his name? Jokic.
Okay, Jokic. Lokic.
I don't know why I keep calling him Joker.

Lokic playing.

You play down to your competition.

Most of the time you end up losing,

similar to how the Warriors did the other night.

But obviously the Lakers didn't do that.

They did slow down at some point,

but it wasn't enough for the Nuggets to get back in the game,

and they eventually ended up winning the game.

So, I mean, it was a good game.

Obviously the superstars are out.

You would have liked to have seen Jokic playing, Ann Murray, LeBron healthy, Luka playing just to see a team at full strength to see what the game would have been like. Yeah, I thought the Lakers, I thought JJ had a good game plan.
But when the shots are playing down the game plan, I thought they moved the ball early. I think sometimes the Lakers get careless.
There are times, look, you just

have to accept Luka is

going to try some things. I mean, he's going out

of bounds and he tried to throw a pass behind his back.

Turnover.

And that's what allowed the

Nuggets to make this run. They started

turning the ball over in the second quarter.

Hold on. What he did? Going out of what?

He's going out of bounds and trying to throw the ball behind

his back to a guy right there up under the basket.

I was like, Lord, have mercy, Luka. But

that's Luka. You have to accept the good with the bad.
Right. That's his game.
That's how he plays. And you have to be willing to roll with it.
You got to think about it. When it comes to him, now you do some things you don't like.
You got to accept the good with the bad. But there's more good than bad when it comes to him when he's playing.
Yeah, for sure. Man, AR has been great.
I like this game, but you could tell and you look at him from the time he got there to where he is now, he's immensely better. You can tell he's a student of the game.
You can tell he put time in on his game. You can tell that it's important to him and that's what i like to see regardless of the sport you play it needs to mean something to you right you gotta want to get better you can't rest on your laurels yeah he got a three-year contract probably paid like 13 14 million dollars he said nah i want one of big daddies i want one of them two hundies yeah and he gonna get it and he would have earned it.
He would have earned it. And you

see why the Lakers were so unwilling

to part ways with him. Everybody

in every trade always tried to

include him. And a lot of trades

broke down because the Lakers

were unwilling to part ways with him.

They saw the improvement. They saw

the maturation.

Getting better from the three. Getting better

at finishing at the rim. Got Niles handles.
Putting the ball on the floor, got the nice snatch pool. He's really, he's turned himself into an all-star caliber player.
And I understand that there are a lot of great guards, and you've got to get back Steph, and you've got Ja, and you've got Shea Gilgis, and you've got Harden, you've you got some Kyrie, you got some really good guards in the Western Conference. But man, the way he's playing, he's an all-star caliber player.
And he can handle the ball. LeBron has trusted him for a very, very long time.
If you go back and look at that Memphis Grizzlies series, he actually won them a game. LeBron's like, nope, don't give the ball to me.
You take it. Go win the game boards.
And he's done that. So I just love the way he's improved, how he's gotten better.
And this Laker team, I think if they get healthy, I think they can be dangerous. I still think they're a big short.
But, hey, we'll see what happens when the rubber needs to meet the road. Yeah listen you know the game of basketball very well so does everybody else everyone else with the knowledge of the game of basketball has said the same thing about the lakers they don't have a big in order to compete in order to go as far as you need to go you're going to have to have a big and they just don't have it but we can we can see we got we don't we don't see what they can do with that two-headed monster.
Once LeBron comes back, we'll see what happens.

Well, because they're going to be small. Once Jackson Hayes goes out of the line, they're small.

I mean, Coloco,

he's okay.

A little small. Height, okay.
Height's fine, but

he just don't have enough bricks in his back pocket. And so, you know, people can just uproot him

and just move him off the spot.

Off the spot, yeah.

Yeah.

But, you know, I mean, and there's going to be some times

that probably LeBron's going to have to slide to the five.

Ooh.

And, you know, I mean, because really, if you really think about it,

there's not a whole lot of guys that have, you know,

Rudy Gobert is not going to cause you any damage. Basically, you know, they got Harden staying.
They got Chet Hornigan. But when you look at Memphis, Zach Eady, he's just a big body.
He just six screens and stuff like that. Yeah, taking a space.
Died to the basket. Yeah, yeah.
Taking a space, yeah. So you look at the teams.
Now, Sungoon, Sungoon now, he can be a problem for the Rockets. Yes, sir.
Yeah, he's an all-star. He's an all-star for a reason.
But like I said, I like the Lakers. LeBron gets healthy.
Luka is Luka come playoff time. He has the third high-scoring.
No, he has the second high-scoring average in playoff history. With that being said, LeBron healthy.
LeBron is a top five in playoff history as far as scoring they can do some damage but i just wish they had another big i don't know why they signed alex lynn um hey hey uncle you ain't been too high on brother lynn baby yeah what's wrong with brother lynn he uh he he's about he's probably about 35 days away from being the tallest coach in history that that's his next profession. It ain't going to be in the NBA.
It's going to be coaching basketball somewhere, maybe high school. Ocho, Ocho, the Lakers stopped the bleeding today after a four-game skid in which they saw them go from the two seed all the way to the five seed.
They got 33 points 11 rebounds eight assists from luca they got 28 points from austeree jackson hayes matched the season high with 19 and they win 107 to 96 kevin uran had 21 points debbie booker had 19 19 for the 11th place sons uh the lakers failed three spots during the West they lost all four games they were on the road Ocho and currently a stretch of a brutal with seven games in ten days including five at home in seven days a lot of this had to do with you remember when they had to fire the wildfires in LA they had to make up those games they got to make up a game in which San Antonio was supposed to play. That game got postponed, so now it got sandwiched in here, and so now they got to play.
LeBron missed his fourth straight game, but Coach Reddick said Bron is ramping up towards a return. Probably they won't be back until the end of the week, but couldn't come at a better time.
Right. Because they needed to stop the hemorrhaging today.
They were able to do that. But they're not out of the woods because, if I'm not mistaken, they still got the Nuggets up on the schedule.
Yeah, they got the Nuggets. They got San Antonio on the – I think they got San Antonio on the 17th.
That's tomorrow. Wait.
Oh, okay. Is Wimby playing? Wimby not playing, is he? No, no, Wimby.
Wimby is done. Yeah.
But I thought the Lakers played really good. They needed this type of game from Luka.
Luka and Austin Reed, basically, they led the charge. Jackson Hayes did a great job of rolling to the rim.
That's what Luka wants. Luka wants a guy big that's agile, that's athletic.
He doesn't need to be the the best shooter can you catch lobs? how many lobs did Luka throw him? how many lobs did AR throw him? and that's what you need just run to the rim son when they come to doubling which they're going to do they did a lot of that late in the ball game to try to get the ball out of Luka's hands and rightfully so and L And Luka, great awareness, throw it up, Jackson Hayes brings it down,

dunks it home.

So I would have loved, man, I just want LeBron to come back

and not have any setbacks and see how this thing plays out

for the final 17, 18 games of the regular season.

But I like the way they played today.

Got some great production.

Gabe Vincent came in and

gave him some quality minutes.

But they did a great job.

KD did not shoot the ball well

from the floor. Book did not shoot

the ball well from the floor. Bradley

Beal did not shoot the ball well from the floor. Hell, I'm not

so sure Bradley Beal even scored a point.

Did Bradley Beal even...

I'm serious, Ocho. Did Bradley

Bill even score, Ash? If he did,

he had minimal points.

He had four points, Ocho.

See?

Yeah, I think

they really... They got themselves...

He's on one of two players that have a

no trade. He and LeBron.

They really want to move on from Bradley Bill,

but he don't want to go nowhere.

It's a conversation.

It's a conversation that needs to be had.

Him asking, them asking him,

is there somewhere you want to go where you would like to play?

I kind of like it here.

The weather's nice.

Sunshine.

No, there's no place I want to go. I don't think that wrong because he would he would he would put forth a little bit more effort especially when it comes to playing and being contributing to them offensively all i'm saying they offered him an opportunity i get i where you want to go i mean you got it i mean to go I mean the team's got to want you, right?

You don't think you don't think a team will want them. Yeah, but not the team that he potentially wants to go to.
Oh, I see. I see what you mean.
I see what you mean. Yes.

Goat. Oh, this is what you do it.

You need to be with a girl that likes you, not the girl that you like.

Hmm. You see? Go to the team that wants you not to the team that where you want to go because the girl that likes you is gonna treat you accordingly the girl that you like mmm listen I ain't gonna go to our Joe Joe we're not gonna do that today Joe Joe we're not gonna get it there you ain't got to do it today you come around to around to it.
That's what you need to do.

Yeah.

And see, that's the problem.

He wants to go to a team.

That he won't.

Not the team that wants him.

Hey, using that analogy, where people can better understand it,

I like that.

I like that.

I'm just saying, don that's like Ocho you need to write that down that's one I don't have to write down I've always lived by that because you know you give me you give me your how do you say it if you give me your you-know-what to kiss, all right, bet. Don't worry about it.
One thing about it, the line is very long. Yeah.
You hear me? The line is very long. Ocho, sometimes you got to...
With those who actually will appreciate and love, well, what The dough closed now Ocho let me ask you this When someone gives you Their butt to kiss What did you do to make them Pull their pants down and turn around And say kiss my butt Did you do anything to facilitate that Yeah How you yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of the time.
Well, how you going to be mad? Yeah, but Sugar ain't mad. I ain't mad at all.
No, but I'm saying, how you going to be upset when they give you a butt to kiss? When it was you, had they ever given you their butt to kiss before? In general? Yes. I'm just speaking hypothetically.
I'm saying in general. Oh, yeah, hypothetically speaking? Yeah, always.
We always as individuals, we always do things to get people to that point where it's like, ah, you know what? Man, good. You done had to.
No. Yeah, it's life, huh? It's life.
Okay. Yeah.
But, you know, I mean, it happens. Damn.
It happens.

Yeah.

Yeah, but like you said, you always choose who choose you.

Always.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, hey, get your little, get your, hey,

Uncle a little reclamation project.

Don't nobody want to fix old Uncle.

Hey, I'm a reclamation project. I ain't a finished project.
I'm a reclamation project. I need a new roof.
Hey, listen, we all a work in progress. You just have to find someone that's willing to work with you.
Everybody want a finished product. Ain't no such thing.
Nope. There's no such thing as a finished product.
Regardless to how it look. You know, it look good on the outside, but it's a whole lot of work to get done on the interior.
Ain't nothing wrong with that. You just got to have the right person that is willing to help you get through that process.
Yeah. Sometimes, yeah, it's the outside.
Sometimes you go inside, you look at it, man, that house, you go inside like, damn. Yeah.
Man, you did an unbelievable job. And sometimes it's women like that.
Sometimes the prettiest women on the outside are the ugliest on the inside. And sometimes it's vice versa.
Right. Right.
Yeah. I can't quite speak on that.
Everyone has been, Listen, everyone that has been a part of my life in any facet, way, shape or form has been phenomenal. They've been phenomenal, you know.
I can really say they've been great in my growth as a man, as a father. So I like that.
I haven't experienced what you just said in that sense, but that's a good one. I haven't experienced it.
So I've been lucky. Mm-hmm.
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