Nightcap - Hour 2: Bun B joins the show, DK Metcalf’s comments on moving to Steelers, & Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua!

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Speaker 4 it seems like we got the uh the the the mayor just joined us uh it's time to welcome his birthday was yesterday he's celebrated so happy belated birthday he's the owner he's the co-owner of the iconic smash burger joint trail burger and if i i follow him and i think he just opened up another one um trail burger

Speaker 4 bun b what it do

Speaker 4 hey hey what's going on gentlemen what's going on thanks for having the old man on here man thanks for

Speaker 4 bun what's up baby what's good i see oh charge i see you shining over there man i'm a little something man you know i got a little lotion on that's all it is a little lotion but let me ask you this let me let's let's kick it off with this bun where did you come up with with the idea to start trill burger i didn't come up with the idea the idea was brought to me by two mutual friends of mine okay um one that i knew in a previous career as a clothing line designer okay and the other i knew in a previous career as a podcaster for the texans they both moved into new paths one becoming a restaurateur the other becoming a marketing and promotions manager of restaurants so uh the restaurateur andy win came up with an idea for a smash burger, but smash burger phenomenon was already moving on the west coast.

Speaker 4 He's from California.

Speaker 4 He saw the trend starting to move east, and he was like, if I don't catch it by Texas, I'm going to miss the whole Smash Burger trend. But I don't have a stronger brand out there.

Speaker 4 I need someone to partner with. And then my other friend, Nick Skurfield, was like, well, I know Bun has had a food blog for many years called yougoteatis.com.
Go check us out. And

Speaker 4 he was like, I know Bun's been looking for an entry point into the culinary space.

Speaker 4 I didn't want to do a full restaurant because there's so many different menu items and there's so many different ingredients that you have to stock and a lot of things you lose if people don't,

Speaker 4 if people don't come in and buy that shrimp

Speaker 4 in a day or two, that shrimp starts to go bad by day three and you lose it. A lot of stuff get swaps.
You know what I'm saying? So, but this was a very refined, very simple concept.

Speaker 4 I went and met up with him. I tried the burger.
And I thought not only was it one of the best burgers I'd ever had, I thought it was one of the best meals I'd ever had.

Speaker 4 The flavor combination is incredible. Anybody that's ever had it will tell you they may have had good burgers, but no one has ever done

Speaker 4 with a hamburger what we've done. And what I mean by what we've done is we care about it more than I think other people care about a burger.
Most burgers are afterthoughts.

Speaker 4 You know, something like, I got 30 minutes for lunch. Where can I go and get something real quick? Oh, man, I left this club.
I'm full of this liquor. I got to try to soak it up with something.

Speaker 4 You just got to absorb that thing. Got to absorb it, bud.

Speaker 4 You know, but we found a real sweet spot, man.

Speaker 4 You know, we found a way to not only introduce a better product into the public, but also for me personally, a way to transition my cultural equity that I built up in the entertainment industry.

Speaker 4 into the culinary industry in a way that I can capitalize off of it a lot better than I could in the music industry because of the contractual agreements that I signed at a very young age.

Speaker 4 And with this, I was able to own everything outright with my partners. There was no investors as there was with the record company where you take that advance up front.

Speaker 4 We did all of this out of pocket. We continue to do it out of pocket.
We don't take any money out of the company so that the company can grow, be self-sustained. So we don't need investors.

Speaker 4 We don't need finances from anybody. And we just try to build something that we believe will last longer than we will.

Speaker 4 Wow. I like that.
Hey,

Speaker 4 I want to go back with it being your birthday. You know, you turned a young,

Speaker 4 you're getting younger. You know, Listen, your recent birthday bonanza at Houston Rodeo, obviously it featured a diverse lineup, man.
You had Keith Sweat, Don Tolliver, Yolanda Adams.

Speaker 4 What inspired you to blend hip-hop, R ⁇ B, and gospel for this event? You know, we've done a lot of different lineups with my shows at the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.

Speaker 4 Last year was the first year that they'd ever had. two full rap nights.
One was my night and one was with 50 Cent and his tour.

Speaker 4 And it kind of started to get away from what the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, as far as Black Heritage Day, has always been.

Speaker 4 And that's been a very inclusive evening that was always family friendly. And with some of this rap music, it can get away from being a family friendly environment very quickly.

Speaker 4 And so the rodeo was like, look, we would love to reset the bar.

Speaker 4 Like we appreciate what your hip-hop contributions and all of the talent that you brought to the stage have done for the rodeo, but we think we need to reset reset the bar because if we don't, we're going to lose the demographic.

Speaker 4 And that was the problem with the rodeo before was that the rodeo had aged itself out. The rodeo did not bring in hip-hop and younger music

Speaker 4 in a timely manner. So they started to age people away from the rodeo, younger people.
And when I say younger, this may sound crazy, but when I say younger, I mean like 50 and under. Right.
Right.

Speaker 4 There was nothing that was catering to them. Nothing in popular music was catering to them.
Nothing in popular culture was catering to them.

Speaker 4 And so there became a concerted effort to try to make sure that the people on stage reflected the diversity of the city of Houston, which is arguably the most diverse city in America right now.

Speaker 4 There's over 100 spoken languages and so many different cross-culture things happening in the city.

Speaker 4 And so we did a good job of diversifying it. But at the same time, you don't want to leave people out.

Speaker 4 And I could tell that if we did one more show that was rap-centric, my mama wasn't going to want to come no more.

Speaker 4 Most people

Speaker 4 weren't going to want to come no more because it could be a little much, the way people dance to it. I get it.

Speaker 4 There's an energy and we want to bring energy and entertainment, but we don't want to do that and make sure that other people. Isolate others.
Absolutely. You know, my mother comes to the rodeo.

Speaker 4 My siblings, my wife's siblings, our children, our nieces and nephews, and now our grandchildren all come.

Speaker 4 So I got to, I wanted to make sure that I got something there for my mama and my wife's mother that they can relate to things that we can relate to my children and my grandchildren so that's why you get a keep sweat for us you get a yolanda adams for the older more christian grandmothers and and aunties and whatnot and you get a don tolliver for a younger artist uh coco jones for a younger artist you know what i'm saying and then of course for for for my base you know luda ti you know we hit them right in the chest with that hip-hop so yeah we want to make sure that when people come down because now it's become a tourist attraction there's literally thousands of people that that come down for this thing now.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I want to make sure that they get something.
And what look, anytime you know the triple OG Bun B is on it, you know it's going to be big and you know he gonna do right.

Speaker 4 He's gonna do right by agedown because the agedown down. He born and bred a hey, he believe in that.
And I love that. But I love that

Speaker 4 the fact that the rodeo came to you and said, we really appreciate it, but let's not get too far away from what we intended the rodeo to be.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 while we're bringing in one demo, we're losing another another demo how can we blend these demos together and grow it so we they still come more of you guys still come and guess what we expand this thing and a lot of people didn't really understand it because you know i don't tell everybody who's coming i typically keep about two or three surprises to entertain people on the spot so when i was saying hey i got don tolliver and i got keith sweat and i got coco jones and i got yolanda adams people don't see how that mix is in the room right right people don't see how those genres blend together and people really didn't understand the vision.

Speaker 4 We knew what we were doing the whole time. Yolanda Adams was specifically brought in to be a part of the immemorium program where we honored all of the legends that have fallen.

Speaker 4 And then we thought it was good to have some praise in the room. I feel very blessed to have this opportunity.
I've done it four times. I've sold over 300,000 tickets in just four shows.

Speaker 4 We're averaging 74,000 people every time we've done this.

Speaker 4 So it's been a beautiful opportunity, not just for me, for my family, for my business i've been able to pass it on to other people that grew up in houston dreaming of doing the rodeo now they've actually been able to do it i grew up at a time where you know you didn't even think that somebody that did hip-hop music would even be on that stage and now we exist where i live as an example to the next generation maybe one day i can do the rodeo like bun b you know what i'm saying so we understand We understand how deeply this thing resonates with so many different people.

Speaker 4 And we don't want to let people down, especially right now. I don't want to seem like I'm leaving people out of something because this world is so divisive right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And things are not really as inclusive. And I don't think people understand no culture is more inclusive than black people because black people understand what it's like to be left out.

Speaker 4 So we don't want people left out of a good time. You know what I'm saying? And we know that you don't need a bunch of money to have a good time.

Speaker 4 So we try to make entertainment as authentic and realistic and approachable as possible for people. And I think we've been able to do that with the rodeo.

Speaker 4 Hey, boy, you know, we've been making stuff out of nothing with no money for the longest time. we don't need no money.
So, when I get five dollars, it's a party party. Hey, for sure.

Speaker 4 Hey, we had one of the most hood parties, $20.

Speaker 4 Hey, we got the block and lit. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 But let me ask you this. But when you, when you were growing up, did you go to the rodeo when you were growing up? Yeah, that was my first concert ever.

Speaker 4 That's a big, that's a big inside joke about it. The first concert I ever went to was Conrad Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn when I was three years old.
People come to Conway Twitty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, my mom had gotten a car wreck and uh a man had hit her. And she was very nervous because this was in the 70s.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 She's a black woman by herself in an accident with a white man. She just knew

Speaker 4 that she would be at fault. But the police came, he told the police it was my fault.
She did nothing. He took care of everything.

Speaker 4 And then he asked her, Would you like some tickets to go to the rodeo when the rodeo come? And she said, Sure. She gave him my information and addresses.
She never thought nothing of it.

Speaker 4 And a couple of weeks later, the tickets showed up.

Speaker 4 and so they took the family to the rodeo and that was my first concert my first time ever being in the astrodome you know what i'm saying and it left a lasting memory on me like like one of my first musical memories is the houston livestock show and rodeo concert and just you know over the years going every different time my wife shares these kind of memories my wife saw michael jackson for the first time at the rodeo you know a lot of people have You know, you can basically, you know, have a timeline of your life based on different experiences at the the rodeo.

Speaker 4 The first time you went as a youngster, the first time your parents dropped you off, because it's literally the safest environment you can be in at the rodeo.

Speaker 4 So there was a time when you get 15 or 16, your mama would drop you off at the rodeo during spring break, and you and your friends could hang out all night and then get picked up later because it was a safe thing.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? So it's been a part of many people's lives over the years. And now people actually have a real-time experience at the rodeo.

Speaker 4 And not just when I perform, we have like a 9,000 square foot installation called Trill Town, where we do the burgers, we do our Trilltenders, we have merch, Trill Lemonade, we have a bar,

Speaker 4 you know, basketball goal for people to play little games, win hats, win merchandise. So we've made it something that everybody that celebrates Houston culture can come in and feel comfortable.

Speaker 4 I know that there are people from other races that feel funny trying to celebrate other cultures and mixed company because they're not allowed to be as free as they would like to be amongst some of their own people.

Speaker 4 We provide a night where everybody can come and be who they want to be and nobody's going to look at you sideways. Because in order to enjoy it, you got to leave your prejudice at the door.

Speaker 4 If you don't like white folks, you can't come because white folks are going to be there having a good time.

Speaker 4 If you don't like black folks, you can't come because black folks are going to be having a good time. Stray folks, gay folks, Mexicans, Asians, everybody comes out and they're all having a good time.

Speaker 4 So the only way you can enjoy it is leave your bull stuff at the door. Right.

Speaker 4 And hopefully we believe that if people have a good enough time with other people of other cultures and make friends and learn things, maybe they won't pick it it up when they leave and they can leave their prejudices outside forever.

Speaker 4 Love, man, that's live, man. Listen, but when you're talking, when you're talking, I can hear the passion and enthusiasm in your voice, the way you're explaining everything.
It's a new life, coach.

Speaker 4 It's a new life for me. Oh, yeah.
Listen, you've always been vocal about social issues. You know, you've engaged in various, various community initiatives in Houston.

Speaker 4 Man, what drives you still, you know, in your commitment to always give back

Speaker 4 to the community? And do you have any upcoming projects that you're excited about that you can tell us?

Speaker 4 We in Houston as entertainers,

Speaker 4 athletes, what have you, we have a different relationship with the public as other places do.

Speaker 4 I believe that there are lines that are drawn, cultural lines, neighborhood lines, other things that come into play in other major cities in America where people can't really bond in the way that we bond, right?

Speaker 4 Like LA has cultural lines. It has neighborhood lines that some people can't cross.
So that city can very, very seldom come together and unite. Same thing with New York.

Speaker 4 Some people might be from Queens or Brooklyn or whatever. In Houston, we had division maybe 25, 30 years ago between the north side and the south side.
That doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 4 Everybody sees themselves as Houstonians, no matter who you are and where you come from in the city. So we've been able to build a connection with people that's different.

Speaker 4 People see us in the grocery store. People see us in the mall.
People see us in restaurants, at car washes, in the gym. We're very visible and we're very approachable and very personable.

Speaker 4 So, people feel like when they buy our music, they're not just investing in music, they're investing in people, they're investing in neighborhoods, and they look at us as cultural exports.

Speaker 4 Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Like, when you come to Houston, we don't brag about who the best uh Big E Jay-Z are Nas, we brag about who the best Slim Thug, Kiki, or Bun B, you know what I'm saying, or Scarf.

Speaker 4 Those are the kind of we have a lot of pride, you know. Texas has always been a self-sustained entity, it was its own country.

Speaker 4 we didn't never

Speaker 4 felt fully embraced until very recently everything we wanted we had to make it on our own entertainment wise if you wanted to be a recording artist you know a new york label or la label was probably not going to sign you so you had to go out you had to make relationships with wholesalers and distributors and record stores and radio stations and club bonus and all of that and make your way and we all had to do it so there's a common respect um that we all have for each other because we all kind of had to tragress that particular path in order to make it but it's the people,

Speaker 4 it's not just the artists, it's the people of Houston who don't look at us in that way. Yeah, there may be somebody that's never seen me before and might be excited to get a picture.

Speaker 4 But if you roll with me through Houston for

Speaker 4 12, 14 hours, you hear a lot of, what's up, OG? Hey, what's up, B? What's up, huh? It's not a lot of, oh my God. Oh, wow.
We don't put those kind of walls up with people.

Speaker 4 And that's why the relationship with us is a lot different. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Now, as far as projects, we are opening the second store store probably within the next seven days, seven to ten days. The second location of Trillburger will be open in Spring, Texas.

Speaker 4 We'll have two more locations, but by the end of the year, and I'm currently in Dallas right now with the wife,

Speaker 4 mainly let, you know, so my anniversary, my birthday is four days apart, so I would never forget my anniversary. That's live, you know what I'm saying? So, that's what's up.

Speaker 4 So, we spent the daytime on the anniversary letting us shop. We spent nighttime with me going to my favorite restaurant.
There's a Carbone here. here, it's a closed carbon I can get to at Houston.

Speaker 4 That's my favorite restaurant. So we drove up here, we did a little shopping, went and did some uh did some dinner with a good friend of mine.

Speaker 4 And uh, you know, probably look at some locations tomorrow, ride around Fresno and Plaino at a couple of different spots, you know, looking for a location.

Speaker 4 But we hope to be in Dallas and Austin by the summer next year, if lucky. Hey, boy,

Speaker 4 hey, what do you think about nightcap at the rodeo next year?

Speaker 4 Oh, I think there's room to possibly do it at my activation.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah.
Because you have to understand, I don't think many people understand what the rodeo is. The rodeo is a 21-day event.

Speaker 4 It is. Yeah.
I'm only one night of 21 nights

Speaker 4 of concerts that take place in the NRG stadium, the football stadium. Yeah.
They average about 65,000, 66,000 people at night. Easy.

Speaker 4 So it's arguably the biggest music festival in the world that isn't promoted as a music festival. Could be talking about 21 concerts day after day after day at the football state.
Right.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? It's a huge undertaking. Now, that being said, my space, my wife thought of the idea of bringing in a DJ and a DJ booth and some space up there.
So there is a stage.

Speaker 4 Now, next year, we can make it a little bit bigger. Okay, wait a minute.
Hey, we can make it a little bit bigger. That way, we can have all y'all and get a bigger.
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 4 Man, what you think about nightcap at Trill Time? Two thumbs up.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm talking about. I appreciate that.
Oh, we're going to

Speaker 4 A. A.

Speaker 4 O. G.
You know, we're going to circle back on this night. We real talk now.
No, I'm open to it because I want to make it a bigger weekend for people.

Speaker 4 We realize now that, and, you know, you look at the music, boots on the ground, and all this other soul that's blowing up right now. That, that black.

Speaker 4 cowboy country western lifestyle that has always existed is now in the forefront. And my weekend at the rodeo is becoming a big proponent of that.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 It gives a place that's big enough for everybody. Cause a lot of black rodeos, unfortunately, are still smaller.
They're still growing.

Speaker 4 They got a lot of momentum and energy, but they still, they're still growing. They're still smaller.
My rodeo is the largest rodeo in the world. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 So you wouldn't have a larger audience to cater to. with that type of movement and motion.
My wife brought in DJ Payman from South Carolina.

Speaker 4 He's the biggest line dance and Southern Soul DJ in the country.

Speaker 4 And we had people, people our space couldn't even hold how many people wanted to dance they were dancing in the street you know what i'm saying it's just such a great way for people to come together and commune that's what music has always been for people of color it's always been a reason for us to get together and commune that dominoes playing cards barbecue crawfish those are all excuses for for us as a culture to come together and spend time together

Speaker 4 we don't even like each other but if so-and-so who doing the barbecue tray doing the barbecue all right i'll come who who cooking a potato salad uh misa doing potato salad all right i'll show up for that it's an excuse for us to get together and so i'm i'm i'm looking at that we built something that now gives people an entry point if you don't know about it you haven't had any experience this is a very easy entry point into this cultural representation but for those of us that know oh it's a it's the bat signal

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Speaker 4 When you talk about this, man, I'm thinking about your plate. Well, your plate is full, man.
Your plate is full, man. Listen, your role as a musician, an entrepreneur, your community leader.

Speaker 4 Man, how the hell you balance all these different facets of your career? And what keep you motivated, baby? Because just listen to it. This is a lot.

Speaker 4 It's a lot.

Speaker 4 I think everybody here on this knows that God doesn't give you more than you can handle. You just got to figure out how to handle it, right?

Speaker 4 Yes. I have an amazing support system.
I have a beautiful, strong black woman as a wife in my corner. And the reason I've gotten this far, It's not because I know it all, I can do it all.

Speaker 4 My wife refuses to settle for a lesser version of me. So when she knows I'm not going all the way in and not giving my 100%, she'll hold me accountable.
Wow.

Speaker 4 You know, you can do better than that. You know, you're supposed to be doing more than that.
So there'd be a lot of times I want to phone it in. I'd be like, man, I just want to stay home.

Speaker 4 Now, why would you do that knowing you told them people you was going to come?

Speaker 4 You know, my wife,

Speaker 4 I can't do it. My wife knows, my wife believes of the, it has always believed in my greatness.
And when I don't live up to it, because she talks about it, she holds me accountable.

Speaker 4 So I go out and do the rodeo and all that. And the next day, I got to come home and put the trash out.
You know, I got to pick up stuff in the garage.

Speaker 4 I got to make sure I don't leave the kitchen light on. All those things.

Speaker 4 We have moments where we are very blessed that we get to see the world and travel the world and do all of that.

Speaker 4 But every other day, man, we are a family trying to exist, making sure our children, our grandchildren are okay, and we got a good home that's comfortable for us to live in.

Speaker 4 All I got to do is give her a house that she's going to make a home out of. That's not even a question.

Speaker 4 See, see what you heard what he just said, home? yeah you see what i'm talking about yeah now see what i've been telling you now

Speaker 4 but i'm i'm trying to get him to settle down but i'm trying i'm trying to get him to find him a wife because listen the way you're talking the way you're explaining things it shouldn't be hard after hearing what you just said but she got to keep up with him though that's the thing yeah she gotta keep up with him he gotta find a woman that's so busy he gets jealous oh hey listen we found one hey hey hey hey bun we found one for him she he interviewed her not too long ago wait till she ain't got wait wait till he she ain't got no time for it.

Speaker 4 We're going to find out where he's standing at. He's going to try to spend that money, send that plane,

Speaker 4 plan that vacation, anything he can to spend time with that woman.

Speaker 4 When he starts disregarding things he don't normally disregard, and them assistants start having to do things that he normally go and do, yeah, he got something on his mind.

Speaker 4 He got it, he got something on his mind. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 I got one more question. I got one more question.
This is a good one. I'm sure a lot of people in the chat would love to hear this answer because I definitely want to hear it.

Speaker 4 who are your top five houston rappers oh man your top five yo yo mount rush more now i'm just adding the fifth i'm gonna make it five okay instead of four uh we're gonna start with kay reno kay reno is the og of houston rappers he's the he's he's the he's the hype he's the epitome of what houston rap foundation should have been built on so we have the right ogs to start it out for us obviously scarface one of the not just one of the best writers and any rappers in houston but just i mean arguably the best storyteller that hip-hop has ever had ever i know very few people i think only two pop can really evade it convey emotion through words yeah on a rap song in the way that scarface does when scarface talks about death you feel that loss when he talks about friends you know he phrase has a song called suicide and I'm talking about, I had never heard a song about somebody delving into the psyche of somebody that they thought was okay, but wasn't okay.

Speaker 4 And then you start to question, making sure you're okay. Like this.
So the depth of Starface's writing talents and mentality, man, have been criminally underrated in the world of hip-hop.

Speaker 4 I think number three, you got to go Willie D. And Willie D has been.

Speaker 4 Willie D is the type of person that when you think of a Houston rapper meeting one in a dark alley, Willie D is who you project.

Speaker 4 You know, that's somebody that, you know, has stood on all 10 toes constantly, consistently, and still does.

Speaker 4 The fun thing about watching Willie D, one, he loved the culture just as much as he always had. And two, he bought that just as much as he's always been.
There's certain things that you can count on.

Speaker 4 And Willie D being about that life is absolutely one of them.

Speaker 4 He still leads by example and he still makes us proud to be from Houston and knowing that, you know, whatever you say in this world, you better stand on it because with some people it might be a fight with it right you know what i'm saying number four

Speaker 4 number four i might have to go out on a limb here man i may have to go out on a limb with this one um

Speaker 4 i don't know how everybody's gonna feel about this

Speaker 4 but um

Speaker 4 i think gangster nip and may be one of the best rappers from Houston. And I'll tell you why.
The only reason that people really didn't get into Gangster Nip is because of the subject matter.

Speaker 4 He did a a lot of horror core. You know, he wrote stuff for Bushwick and a lot of his stuff was

Speaker 4 a lot of his music existed in this in this world of horror and gore and all of that type of stuff, Friday the 13th, Jason, all of that type of stuff.

Speaker 4 But his flow

Speaker 4 in the mid-90s, the early 90s, and mid, I mean, it was some of the best rapping I've ever seen and done in my life.

Speaker 4 And number five, I'm not going to put Pimp here because I feel like Pimp supersedes a lot of things in this argument. i'm gonna go with killer college

Speaker 4 i don't think anybody wants to be the best rapper in houston more than him

Speaker 4 i don't think anybody takes the art of lyricism as serious as he does now we got people that got a lot of motion maxo got motion uh megan has got motion travis ot

Speaker 4 walker there's a lot of people from houston young artists up and coming talent that got art um that have motion and have fan bases and and and i'm really making major moves but when we're talking about just rap rapping like right rapping and like looking in the motherfucking face and meaning what you say when you rap this stuff i don't think anybody conveys that more than killer college i think killer collio could potentially be the best lyricist to ever come out of the city of houston he just got a The problem is he got too much respect for his predecessors.

Speaker 4 And I feel like in some form or fashion, as a competitor, at some point, you can respect the GOAT and still want to beat the GOAT at the same time. right i like it we're gonna get you out of here

Speaker 4 look i would wait for him to wake up one day and say man f all that man f bun b and all of them i'm going for the top and that's when it'll get that's when it'll be the best bun we're gonna get you out of here on this one which houston team are you most excited about this year your cougars your rockets your texans or your astros now that's a great question that is a great question it's always easy to be excited about the cougars because they're at this point that's a program that does this right as far as basketball that men's basketball team does this at this point.

Speaker 4 They've gone into the last four marches being heavily favored. They've made it to the to the eighth at least two, three times.
I think, I know the last two years for sure.

Speaker 4 I think they got a great chance of going all the way this season. So, but that's at this point with that program, that's to be expected.
These Astros are going through transition.

Speaker 4 Right. We lost Bregman.
That was a hometown hero. We love Alex Bregman, you know, as we lost Korea, and we lost a couple of other guys, but we're bringing in, we always bring in young talent.

Speaker 4 That's been the great thing about this Astros organization that the Cranes have always brought in and nurtured young talent. They draft well and they build talent up.

Speaker 4 They don't look to just go out and try to buy a player. They're about winning several.
They're not about winning this year. They want to win several years.
They've tasted it.

Speaker 4 They know what it takes to get there. They believe they can do it.
But they're still in a little bit of rebuilding right now. Lost a couple of pitchers, got McCullough's back.

Speaker 4 So we're going to figure it out. They're perennial playoff team, right?

Speaker 4 But it's going to take more this year to get to that final step than i think it has over the last two or three seasons um the rockets i mean my goodness look at this young team

Speaker 4 you talk about a talented young team tillman has done a great job of being like you know what we just got to start over like it is we're not one or two players away we're a team away But I mean, he put this team on the shoulders of green.

Speaker 4 Jalen is an amazing talent. I think he's a great leader i think thompson is a problem

Speaker 4 i think he's a beast on that team um

Speaker 4 i really think

Speaker 4 oh i haven't got i haven't got to him it took a while to figure out how to say his name it took a while it took a while to figure out how to say his name but hey we got the promise with that young boy and this is

Speaker 4 i understand that he grew up in the game of fundamentals right but he playing with some dogs i watched him the other day try to do an over behind the back pass he almost had it.

Speaker 4 They teach him that black top ball, right?

Speaker 4 They don't have to teach him fundamentals. He knows how to pass and all that.
They teaching him black top no-look passes in the paint. When he finds that step,

Speaker 4 that boy is going to be a real problem. But I say all that to say, this team has everything it needs.
And man, you doca.

Speaker 4 I mean, that was the steal. He's the right coach.
He's the right coach for the skill. That was the steel.
And I understand why he couldn't stay where he was, but I'm so glad he's where he is.

Speaker 4 Bruchetti. Bruchetti.
I'm so glad that's the trouble that the city love because they get to see me every now and then. So the city love that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But them Texans,

Speaker 4 man, man, them Texans.

Speaker 4 I think in two, three years, man, I think they're going to be the ones to beat, man. It could happen in the next two years.
This team is building. a strong structure.

Speaker 4 D'Amico knows exactly what he wants.

Speaker 4 The organization isn't scared to spend the money to give him what he wants. And they're so embracive of the local culture.

Speaker 4 They do collaborations with local artists and they bring in different talent to perform at the games. They allow me to bring my burgers into the stadium.

Speaker 4 They're doing everything they can to be as Houston-centric an organization as they can be. They're putting the money where it needs to go.
They're trying to strengthen that O-line.

Speaker 4 I know everybody wasn't crazy about losing Tunsel, but I can understand organizationally why they feel they needed to go in another direction. I hear there were locker room problems.

Speaker 4 There were a ton of penalties, right? A lot of things going on. And I just think they were growing in a different direction.
I think that they supplemented the defense. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 They're probably going to have to draft a little more to tighten up that O-line

Speaker 4 because they got to protect CJ. They got to protect CJ by all means.

Speaker 4 I like the Kirk signing. I like bringing Christian Kirk in.
I think he's a fast young player. He's got some good talent.
He's definitely got hands. And CJ can hit him and strive.
You know? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because I knew we weren't going to probably weren't going to keep Diggs another season. I don't think we were going to keep him another season.

Speaker 4 So they had to start thinking receiver, receiver, receiver. Tank had his surgery.
He's a young guy. I think he'll recover quickly.

Speaker 4 I honestly think Tank will be ready by game one of a 25, 26 season.

Speaker 4 But I think the Texans are a team that everybody has got to circle their calendar dates when they play that team. That defense is only getting better.

Speaker 4 I'm curious to see what the new OC is going to do. I think that's going to be the big test

Speaker 4 is what the new OC is going to be able to create with CJ, but at least they won't be as predictable in year two

Speaker 4 as they were, in year three, as they were in year two, because year one was a lot of surprises. Year two, they pretty much tried to replicate the playbook and people saw it a mile away.

Speaker 4 With a new OC, I think there's going to be a new approach. I think he's going to find a better way of working with these new offensive lines.
I feel positive about what we're doing as a team.

Speaker 4 So I would put it in that order. I would say Koogs, Rock, Koogs, Astros, Rockets, and Texans four to one.
Yeah. Hey, Triple O G, Bun B, bro, thank you for joining us.
Congratulations on everything.

Speaker 4 The Trailburger franchises,

Speaker 4 the rodeo, your big staple in the community, what you do to uplift your community. We appreciate you.
We salute you here at Nightcap. Thanks for joining us.
We'll see you down the road. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Thank y'all for doing that drop for the rodeo for me last year, too. Yes, sir.
Always so proud, though. You know that.

Speaker 4 We're going to find some space to put y'all in that trail town next year. Come bring up the break.

Speaker 4 Matter of fact, the people who are going to be able to do that. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 Hey, bun, not only that, that let me perform you know i can sing now

Speaker 4 i i'm i think we break it up yeah we break it up

Speaker 4 night on oh gee appreciate that i love y'all man thank y'all

Speaker 4 thank you bro

Speaker 4 oh joe take off for a little while i gotta use the bathroom oh you gotta go you gotta go

Speaker 4 hey chat hey chat let listen to me chat real quick listen to me what y'all think about me at rodeo in Houston next year performing. Now, there are many things I can do.
I can dance, I can sing um

Speaker 4 it could be gospel r b uh i could do hip-hop there's so many different things i could do so i think me being a part of the houston rodeo even though i have no i have no connection i have no wi-fi you know to the houston culture but they are accepting of me because i'm very likable i'm very lovable and i think me being a part of that that that culture and what they have going on it's a 21 day event i could be part of all 21 days you know they got country i know country music.

Speaker 4 I can line dance. You know, I can DJ.
Like, there's so many facets that I can be part of when it comes to the Houston Rodeo. Chat, let me know what you think.
Let me know what you think.

Speaker 4 Outside of that, I'm excited. I'm going to just tell you about my weekend.
I don't know what y'all have planned coming up, but tomorrow I'm flying to New Orleans.

Speaker 4 I'm flying to New Orleans.

Speaker 4 I'm going back to the Mahalia Jackson Theater in New Orleans. I'm going to see Alvin Eiley Dance Company.
I'm not sure about how many people in the chat know about Alvin Eiley Dance Dance Company.

Speaker 4 I'm a huge, huge fan of the arts and dance.

Speaker 4 Movies like Mulan Rules, movies like Chicago.

Speaker 4 I've been a huge fan of Alvin Elliot and Judith Jameson.

Speaker 4 Former artistic director Robert Battle, who's a friend of mine.

Speaker 4 I don't think he's an artistic director anymore, but I'm going to see them. I'm very, very excited.
Anyone in the chat, if you've never seen Revelations,

Speaker 4 if you've never seen all the pieces, the Revelations by Alvin Elliot,

Speaker 4 I implore you to watch it maybe tonight on YouTube so you get a better understanding why I'm flying all the way to New Orleans to make sure I catch them,

Speaker 4 to catch them live on stage. I'm excited due to COVID, I haven't been able to see them in what, three, four years, whatever it's been.
So I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 4 That's my weekend. I wish I could see what you guys are doing this weekend.

Speaker 4 And that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it.
I'm excited for the rest of the runner show tonight. I don't know what we're going to talk about.

Speaker 4 Other than that,

Speaker 4 that's it.

Speaker 4 Chan and Cam. Chan, Cam, I just want to say hi.
Hi to everybody, everybody in the chat. I love you.

Speaker 4 Ash, hi, Ash. Thank you for allowing me to lead the show while Uncle uses the bathroom.
And if he comes back too fast, that means he didn't wash his hands.

Speaker 4 Hi, Jacob.

Speaker 4 Hi, Nikki and Marv and Alexis and Christian.

Speaker 4 And yeah, that's pretty much it. Hi, Boost Mobile.
How you doing? Hi, Doug and Ryan. Um

Speaker 4 uh who else? Hey to all my exes. Uh I'm sure y'all probably watching.
Uh I'm sorry things didn't work out. And uh, yeah, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 4 So, chat, what else? What y'all want to talk about?

Speaker 4 What you want me to sing?

Speaker 4 Oh, tell me what song you want me to sing right now. Tell me what song.
Wait, wait, wait. Won't they take away our monetization? No.

Speaker 4 Oh, so we're free and clear?

Speaker 4 Okay, give me a song right now, Ash. I'm gonna, I'm gonna blow right now.

Speaker 4 Never too much with the band draws.

Speaker 4 Okay, let me know you're ready.

Speaker 4 Hold your

Speaker 4 okay, hold on.

Speaker 4 Never too much, never too much, never too much,

Speaker 4 never too much. I can't can't fool myself.
I don't want nobody else to ever love me.

Speaker 4 You're my shine. Hey, bro.
What do I tell you about secondary? My guiding life, my love, my fantasy. There's not a mini-hour date.
Huh?

Speaker 4 Bucky Brooks interviewed Shadura Sanders during Big 12 Pro Day Today. Bucky asked Shadura.
I don't want to interrupt my song. Bucky asked Shadura about the draft process so far, also about

Speaker 4 what he's essentially been, a smear campaign against him. His answer is what you expect from Time's Son.
It's definitely a learning experience. There are a lot of things that aren't in your control.

Speaker 4 And just getting the knowledge from your dad and your just coach, family, friends, and everybody you know that's supporting me and helping me through this process is extremely important.

Speaker 4 And I'm thankful that I have those resources. We always understood: block out the noise, even from Jackson State and Colorado.
It's a lot of critics, it's a lot of hate, but we know what to do.

Speaker 4 We know how to handle that in every way. So we remain happy.

Speaker 4 What do you take away from what Shadur spoke to Bucky Brooks about today?

Speaker 4 Listen, Prime has prepared Shadur for this day for a very long time, huh?

Speaker 4 And he had the right person on his corner who also had to endure the same type of negative, negativity in general from the media. based on his style of play, the way he approached the game.

Speaker 4 Things that had nothing to do with his play would always use it against him.

Speaker 4 Shadura understands that. He should understand that because everything they talk about has nothing to do with the game of football.
It has nothing to do with what he was able to do at Jackson State.

Speaker 4 It doesn't talk about him winning at Jackson State. It doesn't talk about him winning at Colorado

Speaker 4 despite the obstacles he had to overcome.

Speaker 4 Despite having, you know, inadequate play at the O-line, still being able to complete 70% of his passes.

Speaker 4 They don't talk about none of that. They talk about the way an individual carries himself,

Speaker 4 his swag, the way he talks.

Speaker 4 Not about being in trouble.

Speaker 4 Nothing is talking about that.

Speaker 4 Ridiculous stuff. Oh, showing off the watch.
I mean, so what?

Speaker 4 It's all about having confidence. It's all about having belief.
That's what it takes to play at the next level and be successful. The fact that they're using it as a negative

Speaker 4 says more about them than it does Shadur. True.
And I hope he never changes. And he continues to have success in all that he does.

Speaker 4 Wherever he goes, you want to get a player like that that's going to change your franchise around.

Speaker 4 When someone

Speaker 4 comes out and says, I want someone to draft me

Speaker 4 that wants a player that's going to change their franchise,

Speaker 4 that's something you want in a quarterback.

Speaker 4 I know it's frowned upon a little bit to have one that's as brash and as vocal as that.

Speaker 4 But if you look at the film, you turn the film on, you know what you get. It shouldn't be no problems at all.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm sure time prepared him for this. His dad prepared him for this.
He's been at this. His dad has been at this for a very long time.
He's been in the spotlight since his days at Florida State.

Speaker 4 So he understands that there's a certain level of criticism that comes along with being the guy, with being a good, great football player. He understands that.

Speaker 4 Also, it comes along with being a quarterback.

Speaker 4 And yeah, the objective is, is, I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of times they try to tell you what you can't do, but they never want to emphasize what you can do.

Speaker 4 Bring me a guy and tell me what he, hey, what can he do? Because I'm going to keep him away from what he can't do. That's my job as a coach, is to not put him in a situation where he can't succeed.

Speaker 4 Okay, you said

Speaker 4 he's not good on a

Speaker 4 read option. Okay, why would I run his own read if that's not what he's good at?

Speaker 4 I'm trying to put my players in a situation where they can succeed.

Speaker 4 That's what a coach's job is, is to put a guy in a position where he can succeed and get more out of him than the player thought he can get out of himself

Speaker 4 it's it's gonna be this um i i'm glad that uh you know he's doing a great job is as good a job but he's not a robot ocho he sees this thing i mean he's on social media he hears these things he's not a robot he has feelings he has emotions And so no matter how much you're like, oh, no, eventually, yeah, you hear it.

Speaker 4 You hear all the negativity that what they're saying.

Speaker 4 It doesn't make it any easier.

Speaker 4 Now, your dad can tell you like, hey, son, this is blah, blah, blah. But it doesn't make it easier, Ocho.
I ain't trying to hear that. This is supposed to be one.
Look,

Speaker 4 if Chadour is what we think he is and can become the player that we think he can.

Speaker 4 All that noise, that's all it is. It's just noise.
It should have no impact.

Speaker 4 What somebody says about you, and his dad says, what you say about me is not what I think of myself. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 I just hope he has the mental fortitude not to let it bother him. The fact that he's already been through it for so long and he has Prime as his father, I don't think it will.

Speaker 4 Because I know a lot of people, when it comes to the media and the media jumps on you.

Speaker 4 and they talk about you sometimes it gets to certain people it does but i think i think shadur is built different prime has been built different So I think he has a great understanding to ignore it, to block the noise out.

Speaker 4 And when his time comes in April, wherever he goes, he shows up and shows the you-know-what-out.

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Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. I mean, I'm excited for him, man.

Speaker 4 Hey, chat. Remember I told y'all I had that right there? Roll back.

Speaker 4 Roll back. That's the original.
That's the OG. Like triple OG button B.

Speaker 4 That's the triple OG iPod.

Speaker 4 That's live. That's live.

Speaker 4 That's the number two version. This one holds 10,000 songs.
This one holds a thousand song.

Speaker 4 Y'all remember the ipad touch ipod touch

Speaker 4 and check this out

Speaker 4 hey how much and you know that stuff might be worth something

Speaker 4 like you got you

Speaker 4 i mean guess what it's supposed to be worth something with this plus 5200

Speaker 4 wait come again it's supposed to be this plus 5200. I'm just saying, all your stuff is in good condition.
Like mint condition, you could probably get a good price for it. Look at this, OG.

Speaker 4 You know what this is, Ocho?

Speaker 4 That's the iPhone 9. No, that's the original one.

Speaker 4 I thought it started with number nine. Man, it started with number one.
They hear you talking about it. But it did.

Speaker 4 Y'all remember that?

Speaker 4 Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 Hey, and you know what she do? Put saran wrap back in and pretend like it's brand new. No, I ain't getting rid of it.

Speaker 4 It ain't never been. You know how much? You know how much money you can get for that? I mean, somebody brought my iPhone.

Speaker 4 Somebody probably give me like five grand for it because it's the original one. It ain't nothing.

Speaker 4 It ain't nothing accurate. It ain't never been turned on.
They never had no phone number. They never had nothing.
And how much you said they can give you for it? Probably about 5,000.

Speaker 4 Would they go? You go ahead and sell that when I owe you 200. No, they ain't got no digits.
It's mine.

Speaker 4 You remember the Samsung

Speaker 4 Samsung? Yeah, Samsung.

Speaker 4 I ain't never had no Android. Look at it.

Speaker 4 That's the Galaxy Note. I ain't never had no droid.

Speaker 4 Oh, Galaxy Note.

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, I'll tell you one thing. You ever text me and it turned green, I'm going to block you.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 I'm gonna block you.

Speaker 4 I got a little stuff. I gotta show you all my phone.

Speaker 4 I got about 17, 18 phones.

Speaker 4 Damn. Yeah, because I keep them.

Speaker 4 I keep them.

Speaker 4 DK McCall spoke to Marshawn Lynch about leaving Seattle and to play for the Steelers. The grass is greener on the other side.
Ocho,

Speaker 4 considering the Steelers doesn't have a quarterback, how can he be so sure that the grass is greener on the other side?

Speaker 4 I'm not sure, but my grandma always said the grass is green on the other side, depending on who's watering it.

Speaker 4 So now you got, now you got, now you got to hold on to now. People are going to hold on to that clip now.
People going to, they're going to go back to that clip.

Speaker 4 Now, it don't matter who the quarterback is. Now, there are two different type of receivers.

Speaker 4 They're receivers that need a quarterback to elevate their play.

Speaker 4 And they're receivers, it doesn't matter who's that quarterback, their play will always remain at the highest level. Right.

Speaker 4 So now you get to show us which one you are, brother DK. You know, I love you to death.
I love you to death. And I hope what you say is right.
The grass being greener on the other side.

Speaker 4 Ain't a whole lot of wide receivers that can play through bad quarterbacks. DeAndre Hopkins might be the best one I've ever seen.
Oh, a quarterback carousel out this world. And then nothing changed.

Speaker 4 Not an ounce of production. Chase Keenum, Hoyer, Brock Oswald.
Obviously, he had Deshaun for that great stretch and he and Deshaun was great, but it didn't matter the quarterback.

Speaker 4 D-Hop put up those numbers. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Unbelievable. And so we're going to find out, like you said, Ocho, we're going to find out if

Speaker 4 DK, what he said, that the grass is greener.

Speaker 4 Because, you know, look, I think the thing is, you get upset, you spend time there, you ask for contract. they won't give it to you, but you had to go somewhere else and get it.

Speaker 4 But, you know, they traded.

Speaker 4 Me, I don't get the trade. I don't, I don't get trading Sam Donna because I don't believe Sam Donna is a better quarterback than Geno Smith.
That's just me personally.

Speaker 4 And then you're like, you trade Geno, you cut Lockett, you trade DK. Now you left, now you bring in.
And granted, I think it's the same coach that called plays. I think Clint Kuviak

Speaker 4 is the OC. He was

Speaker 4 in his ear in Minnesota, Ocho.

Speaker 4 I know Clint when he was about this big.

Speaker 4 His dad was my quarterback, and he's also my offensive coordinator, Gary Kubiak.

Speaker 4 But the decision that they made in Seattle didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But guess what, Ocho? It don't need to make sense to me.
It just needs to make sense to them.

Speaker 4 Yep, yeah.

Speaker 4 Damn, man. Hey, listen,

Speaker 4 I'm hoping it worked out. And

Speaker 4 I'm thinking it is going to work out.

Speaker 4 I like the dynamic duo. i like dk and george pickens you know yeah two of my hey listen two of my favorite crash out receivers well you know you know what's gonna happen if they don't get the ball

Speaker 4 oh they're gonna get it they're gonna get arthur smith go arthur smith gonna make sure they get from who they're gonna make sure why did he make sure why did he make sure george pickings get the ball last year

Speaker 4 Hey, man, listen, you know,

Speaker 4 they rolling covers to him. Now it's a different ballgame.

Speaker 4 It's a different ballgame. Okay.
I hope you're right. I i sure hope you're right jake paul just called out anthony joshua i will effing beat

Speaker 4 come on man stop he doesn't have a chin he has no skill and he's a stiff

Speaker 4 come on come on come on man i'm just telling what the man said oh i didn't say it you make it seem like i called out anthony joshua he said

Speaker 4 Yeah, listen, there's a certain,

Speaker 4 there's levels to everything. I love Jake Paul.

Speaker 4 I love everything Jake Paul has done, you know, in his own right, you know, in entertaining and finding a lane and space for what he loved to do and the passion, the passion and work and discipline that he's put into the sport of boxing and combat sports in general.

Speaker 4 But we talk about the elites. We talk about the elites at their craft.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's not going to happen. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jake fought.

Speaker 4 Time superior, brother.

Speaker 4 Tommy Paul, the closest person to actually, yeah, Tommy, you know, Tommy, if you want to challenge someone, challenge someone with the one loss you have.

Speaker 4 Take him out. Yeah, he's too big.
Take him out.

Speaker 4 Take him out.

Speaker 4 Wade, Wade. Bro, you're talking about 245.
What does Jake Paul wear, Ocho? 210, 215? He might wear 220.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure. But listen, again,

Speaker 4 I love Jake Paul. I love what he's done.
you know in his lane in the sport in combat sports and boxing in general

Speaker 4 But you're biting off more than you chew.

Speaker 4 You're biting off more than

Speaker 4 you can chew, man. I love it, though.
One thing you do need in any things you do that he does have is confidence and belief in yourself. Confidence and belief in yourself.
It's no different.

Speaker 4 It's no different than me feeling like

Speaker 4 I could beat James Harrison. You know,

Speaker 4 there's no different. But you can get money.

Speaker 4 The thing with Jake Paul, he brings money. I mean, you got what, 60,000, showed up at what, 60,000

Speaker 4 watched Netflix? Well, I mean, I don't know whether it's 60,000 at J World or how many, what, 300,000 watched Netflix. All I know is that he brings eyeballs and people show up to watch him fight.

Speaker 4 Maybe they show up to watch him lose, but at the end of the day, they're paying money to get into the ring. They're showing up.
They're showing it.

Speaker 4 Listen, he's created himself and made himself the villain. He's made himself the villain.
And the fact that everybody's tuning in to see him lose, he's in a great space and he's in the great lane.

Speaker 4 So what he's doing, he's doing it the right way. He's doing it the right way.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ocho, a debate went viral on Twitter asking, should parents make their kids pay bills if they work a job? And the response went viral saying, I'm just going to say it.

Speaker 4 This is a big problem in the black community and we have to stop it. A lot of parents need help with their bills.

Speaker 4 So they take the money from their kids and disguise it as teaching them responsibility. And it's actually pretty effing ridiculous.
Ocho, what do you think?

Speaker 4 You got to teach your kids responsibility at some point. You have to.

Speaker 4 I think if they're staying with you after the age of 18, now if they're saving up, I wouldn't make my kids, my kids, if they need to stay with me after the age of 18, are you saving up to get yourself a place?

Speaker 4 You have to have some sense of responsibility. I'm not going to always be around.
So you're going to have to be able to be able to fend for yourself. I can teach you how to fish.

Speaker 4 I can teach you how to fish so you know how to do it when I'm not around.

Speaker 4 Now, if I do everything for you and still coddle you and have you up under my roof and you're not having any type of responsibilities and you go out there in the real world, you're going to be lost.

Speaker 4 We can't have that.

Speaker 4 We can't have that. We've got to have some type of structure and discipline and method on how things are to go as a grown adult.

Speaker 4 You have to.

Speaker 4 But being under my roof and making sure, allowing you to save your money and get yourself together until you're ready to go on on your own and be an adult, start a family, whatever it may be,

Speaker 4 I'm all for that. I'm all for that.
Yeah. I mean, no, Joe, I helped my grandmother with bills, but she didn't ask me to.

Speaker 4 I just felt it was the right thing to do because I saw my grandmother struggling. I'm making money.
And so what? I'm going to continue to watch her struggle.

Speaker 4 Now, she's struggling trying to put food on the table for us. She's struggling trying to put food, good clues on our back.
So here I am. I got a job.

Speaker 4 And I'm not making a whole lot of money, but $10 was a lot of money back in the 70s. $20 was a lot of money back in the 70s.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. So, you know, I'm working two jobs.

Speaker 4 Hey, I mean, I remember the first time I got a job, I was five years old. I was walking behind the tobacco picker in the back of the

Speaker 4 1973, 1974. And from that time, I started from walking behind the tobacco picker to carrying a row

Speaker 4 to doing that. So I'm working 10, 12 hours a day doing that.
Come home, shower, me and my cousin, we play basketball, and then go catch chickens for another

Speaker 4 three, four hours. So you make

Speaker 4 chicken with a dollar a shot, right? So we catching 8,000 to 12,000 a night. That's $12.

Speaker 4 Now, you can only call chicken between Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, because Friday was the last day. There is nothing going on on Saturday.
So you started,

Speaker 4 so they were going to be there.

Speaker 4 No, actually, Thursday was the last day. Thursday was the last day.
You didn't catch on Friday because they were off on Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 4 The chicken that you caught Sunday, they were there for the crew.

Speaker 4 The plant was operational

Speaker 4 Monday through Friday. So you caught Sunday, Sud,

Speaker 4 Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Speaker 4 And so, you know, hey, I'm bringing home

Speaker 4 $5 a day plus half a day on Saturday, $2,750, plus we catch $8,000 to $12,000 four nights a week. So I'm making maybe $60,

Speaker 4 but I'm working on an ass load of hours. Yeah.
Okay. Hey, that's it.
You know, hey, listen, back then, you know how

Speaker 4 far you can stretch $60 back then?

Speaker 4 $60? So even if I didn't have to hold you, guess what? I bought my own school clothes.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Then a whole lot of eight, nine, 10-year-olds, 11-year-olds buying their own school clothes.
Well, who else was going to get them? What the hell I was working for? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I work and hold my money. I'm going to hold my money in my pocket.
I'm watching my grandma struggle. Man, please.
I got a question. Yes.

Speaker 4 What kind of clothes you wore back then? Like Jordas?

Speaker 4 No, no, no. You know,

Speaker 4 Sears and Roebuck, Sears and Roebuck. You know, we had a lot of people.
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 But hey, then as I got older, Lee Jeans were in.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. You had Sergei Rigameto.
You did have. Tabo One.
Yeah, you, yeah. Tabo One.
Yeah, you had Levi's and stuff like Eizon. You had Polo.
You had Darkfire.

Speaker 4 Hold on.

Speaker 4 Did you ever have a pair of rules? Please tell me you had rules with the zip on the side.

Speaker 4 You know what what rules are right kangaroos oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah walter payton had kangaroos uh uh yeah we didn't have none of that no i didn't have no kangaroos no we had no

Speaker 4 we had chuck taylors you know back then oh children okay okay chuck taylor's the white you had the meat you had uh the highs and you had the lows but you had them in all different colors they came in black they came in red they came in blue they came in green yeah so you know you got mainly i only had the white i had the highs and the lows and i got a blue pair but you know hey you know what's funny they go with everything Yeah.

Speaker 4 It don't matter what you put on. You wear the black pair, you don't want the white pair.
They go with everything. Yes.
Yes. And so,

Speaker 4 like I said, for me, and I get it.

Speaker 4 I mean, I can see her point trying to teach responsibility, but I was teaching myself responsibility because my whole purpose, like, man, I see my grandma struggling.

Speaker 4 She working that job, making $197 every two weeks. And she's, you know.
Working in a nursing home, the very nursing home that she ended up living her final days, the last two years of her life.

Speaker 4 Nah, man, I couldn't in good conscience i could not in good conscience have money in my pocket and then have my grandma worried about well

Speaker 4 boy i don't know how i'm gonna pay this bill this i don't know you know the phone i don't know about the gas i don't know about the lights man please so me i took it upon myself and that is still my responsibility to this day is to make sure my family is taken care of right um but you know hey i've done My kids and their moms have done a great job helping them understand

Speaker 4 that's your daddy money.

Speaker 4 Now, if he chooses to give you some that's on him but y'all don't know i owe you an education and i gave you the best education because all of you for the most part you didn't stay but you started out in private school and you had college paid for you got a car you left college with no with no debt no student loans no car loans

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 now anything i do after that that's out of the kindness of my heart but i don't owe you either yeah

Speaker 4 Now, hopefully you learned a lot from your mom and from your dad to be self-sufficient. Now, I'm not going to let you drown,

Speaker 4 or at least, you know,

Speaker 4 you might think you're drowning.

Speaker 4 I might let you take on some water. Yeah.
Matter of fact, you know, my baby, remember I told you my daughter, my daughter at Priory and M, you know, she graduated.

Speaker 4 She graduated May 16th, wait, May 16th to May 17th. Remember what I told you she wanted for graduation?

Speaker 4 That G-Wagon. So we had a conversation when I was with all the kids.
I told her, I say, say, listen, she done made the dean's list, the honorable, she done made everything.

Speaker 4 I'm like, well, listen,

Speaker 4 now what you want? Now you say you wanted a Mercedes. What is it? So I'm thinking she's going to say G-Wagon.

Speaker 4 And she say, no, daddy, you know, I don't really want no G-Wagon. I say, well, what happened? What made you change your mind? You say, I think it's too much, the maintenance.

Speaker 4 I just think I just want a starter. Just give me a C300.
I say, now we talking.

Speaker 4 Now we talking.

Speaker 4 You want a white one? I could tell, I could tell them to make your interior pink, you know, with the aka stitched in the seat and all that. Ocho, what happened when she got to get rid of it?

Speaker 4 You better hope she sells it to another aka.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 But you know, when we come to Ocho back, then guy used to get the headline to get Gucci, get MCM. I said, well, you better.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.
I said, well, you better hope, hey, get the get their initials

Speaker 4 black. I said, you better hope you find another dude named Black that want to buy it.
Because I promise you,

Speaker 4 you're going to get the great cross to cold trying to sell it.

Speaker 4 Syracuse football head coach Fran Brown has a policy that his players must save 40% of their NIL checks.

Speaker 4 There's no way as a coach that I'm going to pay you a lot of money, and then you're going to walk away from here with no money,

Speaker 4 says during the upbringing in Camden, New Jersey. It could have been a difference in paying rent, keeping the the lights on, buying food for his siblings.
What you think? You like that, Ocho?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like that. I like that.
Because at some point, especially when you're that young, you know,

Speaker 4 kids these days don't understand financial literacy. They get the money, they spend the money,

Speaker 4 they have this mindset that worth and value is based on aesthetics and the accessories that you purchase.

Speaker 4 That makes you feel like you were greater than and make you worth or it makes you feel special.

Speaker 4 I want kids to understand, especially people in the the chat, that a lot of players and athletes today, regardless of sport that they play, they feel that they have to live way above their means based on the type of money they're making.

Speaker 4 People in the chat, players that see this, there is nothing, I guarantee you and I promise you, there is nothing you can buy. that holds more weight or value than your name alone.
No. Nothing.

Speaker 4 Nothing than the name that's on that birth certificate. Because when you take all that, when you take off all that designer, all the jewelry, all the watches, that in itself is the value.
Yeah. It is.

Speaker 4 And then what you're going to do? Your car, your Lamborghinis and your Rolls Royce and your iced out watch and your chains and all. Man, that shit don't mean nothing, man.

Speaker 4 Nothing. The true value,

Speaker 4 can you get the same reaction without the car? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Without the clothes, without the jewelry. Can you still pull the same chicks?

Speaker 4 that's your value that's your real worth can you can you still do the same things you do with all the accessories aesthetics on when you don't have it on yeah yeah come on man stop playing man oh joe see the the things with me people like

Speaker 4 i don't like money i like freedom

Speaker 4 Freedom is what you get when you have money. Those are two different things.
Some people just want money. I want freedom.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 financial freedom is a beautiful thing, huh? It absolutely

Speaker 4 we look at, listen, we look at all the numbers, we look at all these, these huge gargantuan contracts, you know? Yeah. Still to this day, the money keeps going up, right?

Speaker 4 And one thing that has changed, when you look up statistically, the same amount of players

Speaker 4 are still going broke two years removed from the game, even though the money is continuing to rise.

Speaker 4 So all that's telling me the fact that nothing is changing from a financial standpoint because there's no structure and discipline when it comes to spending because our mindset is well if you give me more

Speaker 4 i won't go broke no you just spend more if you ain't got no financial if you ain't got no financial discipline it don't matter how much they give you because you're just gonna keep on spending exactly the more you make the more you'll spend because you're like oh man i got this i got this now i can do this hey unc it goes so fast man.

Speaker 4 It goes so fast. Before you look up, you got an entourage.
You got an entourage.

Speaker 4 You're the golden goose. You got to feed everybody else.
You go shopping. Now you got to buy everybody else something.
You go to the club. You spending 40, 50,000 in the section buying bottles.

Speaker 4 You got a bunch of chicks, you know, trying to impress them for what?

Speaker 4 For what? They done Google how much you're making. You ain't got to do nothing.
Your name alone is going to get you the woman you want anyway. They going to deal with you based off a name alone.

Speaker 4 You don't, man, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 Hey, man, stop playing.

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Speaker 4 Last segment of the evening, Q and A.

Speaker 4 Man, hey, you just got me hot, man, with that little combo, man. Kyle, man.
Cupcake Mama, it was nice to see you today in Charleston.

Speaker 4 Don't drink, but I wanted to support you as well as give my soon-to-be ex-husband a nice parting gift. Cupcake Mama, thank you.
That was very, very nice of you to show up and support.

Speaker 4 All of Charleston showed up.

Speaker 4 And she also said, Shannon, you and Ocho should do a cognac cigar tour, call it Cognac Swirl, and smoke curls. Cognac swirls, smoke.

Speaker 4 curls. If you guys could find the time being both,

Speaker 4 being that both of you are extremely busy. we are um but i want to thank everybody in charleston and mount pleasant it was north charleston and mount pleasant guys that showed up uh

Speaker 4 and we ran out at one place ojo and a lot of the people like hey and i took pictures with them and i said i apologize even though it was not my fault um right they ended up going to the place in north charleston and we greatly greatly west charleston it's west charleston right in west and uh i really appreciate that so guys thank you again in charleston mount pleasant all you guys that came up, came out and showed out.

Speaker 4 This tour has been unbelievable.

Speaker 4 Atlanta, you were great. Savannah, you were exceptional.
Baltimore, you hit it at the park. Charleston, knocked it out of the park.

Speaker 4 Connecticut, Hartford, Chicago, Miami, man, Houston. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Trey Brisbane, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Big fans of the pod. Thank you for coming out in Charleston today.
Make it in a memory of a lifetime for me and my brother.

Speaker 4 Can't wait to see y'all in Charlotte in July. Thank you.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 Thank you for supporting. Thank you guys for coming out.

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Speaker 4 Hey, Shannon, I'm so excited to see you in Pula, Georgia. Thank you so much for the cherished memory and the tasteful liquor.
Tasteful liquor. C-Young.
Bro, thank you so much, man. I thank you guys.

Speaker 4 I can't thank you enough for coming out and showing that level of support that you gave me today. Dr.
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Speaker 4 I Hope you had fun in South Carolina today. Ocho, I've been seeing your videos, horseback riding, tennis, etc.
Uh, you trying to join Yellowstone and the U.S. Open at the same time?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I'm trying to do everything. I'm trying to diversify my portfolio and do as many things as possible.

Speaker 4 Uh, me, myself, and I said ESPN kept Caitlin Clark out of the top five women college ranks because of no championships. A championship is a team, not an individual, correct?

Speaker 4 Why is this still happening to her? What the F did she do wrong? That's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 I mean, if you go back and look at it, what player didn't win a championship that's in the top five in basketball? Now, in baseball, I mean, you got Barry Bonds, but Barry won seven MVPs.

Speaker 4 And I look, I don't know. I didn't see the list.
So without saying, I'm saying Stewie should be number one.

Speaker 4 Right. Three most outstanding players, no, four most outstanding players, three college players of the year, four national championships.
She should be number one.

Speaker 4 Now, you can put whoever is you want after that. So, if you want Cheryl Miller,

Speaker 4 you want Candace Parker, you want Marmore, you want DT,

Speaker 4 I ain't got no problem with that. Hey, if you want to throw, I don't know if y'all remember Cheryl Schwozz when she was at Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 She won the national championship, dropped 48 in the championship game, and they beat Ohio State by Katie Smith. I remember that game, she was sensational.

Speaker 4 But out of, like I said, without without seeing the list,

Speaker 4 I'm thinking, Ocho, like, you know, Candace, Maya Moore, DT, Stewie, Shamika's Holesclaw.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I'm trying to think who else could possibly be in there.

Speaker 4 Cooper. Cynthia Cooper, because I think she was on one of those national championship teams with,

Speaker 4 okay, Brianna was number number one. Candice Park was number two.
Diana Terasa was number three. My Moore was number four.
Sharon Miller was number five.

Speaker 4 Ocho, without even knowing it, did I not give you the names?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm like, I didn't see, didn't see. I'm just basically, I'm old enough to remember them all, Ocho.
I'm old enough to remember them all. So I saw Sharon Miller play.

Speaker 4 I saw her win back-to-back national championships, and then I saw them lose to an undefeated Texas team.

Speaker 4 They beat the latest team, the LaTeX.

Speaker 4 Kim Mulkey was on those teams.

Speaker 4 Breonna Stewart, that's a no-brainer. Breonna Stewart is a no-brainer.
It's like Kareem. If you're talking about the greatest college basketball player for men, it's Kareem.

Speaker 4 Kareem, he lost two games. Three most outstanding players, three national championships, because remember, Ocho, the freshmen couldn't play back then.

Speaker 4 But Kareem's freshman team beat the Barson team that had just won the national championship. Championship.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So the UCLA team that won the national championship team, Kareem's freshman team beat them in a game.

Speaker 4 So for basketball, it's a no-brainer. It's Kareem.
Now, we can go wherever you want to go after that. You want to go Jerry Lucas.
You want to go Oscar Robinson. You want to go Kristen Leitner.

Speaker 4 You want to go Ralph Sampson. Ralph Sampson was a three-time player of the year.
Didn't win a national championship. He only got to the final four.

Speaker 4 So whomever you want to put after Kareem, I mean, I probably ain't going to even fight you. But Kareem gonna be number one,

Speaker 4 just like Breonna Stewart should be number one.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Damn, I mean,

Speaker 4 what you call them? UConn took all the spots. They got three of the five spots.
They got Stewart. They got DT.
They got Milmore.

Speaker 4 So, but, yeah, I can see that. Candace Parker, two-time national championship.

Speaker 4 She was player of the year. Most outstanding player.

Speaker 4 I ain't got no problem with the list.

Speaker 4 I ain't got no problem with the list. I don't, oh, Joe.

Speaker 4 Hey, uh, Jay 213. Hey, Ukino Choe, do you believe Michael Jackson would be more or less famous if he was performing during the normalization of social media? Look, I don't know what he'd be.

Speaker 4 I just know I've never seen anybody that elicited the response.

Speaker 4 When I see, when I look, when people start having concerts and people pass out before he performs, when they yeah, that's what I'm gonna say, they're bigger than Michael. Yeah, nobody

Speaker 4 is bigger than Mike.

Speaker 4 no you're never gonna see that again it's not it's not even close not even close

Speaker 4 not even close

Speaker 4 like i said like i said you gotta you close i'm old like i said i'm old enough to remember when he came out with off the wall and i think what 78

Speaker 4 and then you know when he came out with thriller it was it was game over

Speaker 4 but what what happened to mike is what

Speaker 4 Ocho, he couldn't get over the fact he kept trying to replicate Thriller and he didn't realize Thriller was Haley's comic.

Speaker 4 And he couldn't. He just, I mean, he had albums doing 10 million.
I mean, think about it. Bad was a damn good album.
Off the wall was a great album. I think

Speaker 4 what was the

Speaker 4 uh, remember the time album was on? What was the name of that album? Invincible? Was it invincible?

Speaker 4 But anyway, he,

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 And I, oh, Joe, I remember we had the conversation. I said, Cat Williams was my thriller.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to drive myself crazy trying to go. Trying to trying to replicate it and do it again.

Speaker 4 You're not going to do it. And we've had great interviews before.
We've had great interviews after. And I know a lot of people don't like the guest selection, but hey, I believe in being diverse.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to try to hide, you know, hey, I liked Amber. I love, oh, man, young men, young Miami playing that game.
We had a great time.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 dangerous, dangerous. That was the name of it.
Yes, dangerous. Okay.

Speaker 4 Unbelievable. Unbelievable album.

Speaker 4 But he didn't like,

Speaker 4 you know, 10 million.

Speaker 4 Do you know an artist would give their left arm, right arm or leg to sell 10 million copies of an album?

Speaker 4 Listen, and we ain't talk about no streams. We talk about hard copies.

Speaker 4 People going in the store and they used to go to the store and get the copy, the actual hard copy of the album or the CD or the cassette. That's different.
Yeah, that's different.

Speaker 4 Not no streams where you can

Speaker 4 manipulate everything and get bought. Man, please

Speaker 4 not comparable. No, Danny Little John said, Uncanocho, who's better, Shaq or Dewite in Orlando,

Speaker 4 that's a question for you.

Speaker 4 That's close.

Speaker 4 Both went to one finals,

Speaker 4 both got both got swept.

Speaker 4 I think I might have to go with Dewite,

Speaker 4 three-time defensive player of the year.

Speaker 4 And I don't think Dewite had

Speaker 4 a comparable player to Penny.

Speaker 4 See what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah. If you look at it,

Speaker 4 but Shaq, you got to realize Shaq didn't stay that long. Shaq was only there.
Shaq was there 92, 93, 94, 95.

Speaker 4 He's only there four years. People don't realize that.
People look at Shaq, face, Shaq stayed up. No, Shaq was there four years.
92, 93, 94, 95. 96,

Speaker 4 he was with the

Speaker 4 Lake Show. Yes.

Speaker 4 He went to the Lake as a free agent.

Speaker 4 Breaking news, Steph Curry just went to the locker room grabbing his tailbone after a hard fall. He's out the rest of the game.

Speaker 4 You remember, was that a couple of years ago he had that bruised tailbone injury that caused him to miss some games?

Speaker 4 I think he missed a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 Because, you know,

Speaker 4 they skidded. They ain't got no overall.

Speaker 4 He ain't got no cushion.

Speaker 4 John Arena, what's up, Akinocho? I listen to y'all every morning at work. Y'all dropping wisdom and knowledge I tried to apply to my life.
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Speaker 4 Again, Steph Curry just went to the locker room after having a tough spill.

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