
Nightcap - Hour 1: Keon Coleman joins + Ja'Marr & Tee Higgins get paid
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best NFL moments of the week including the Bengals extending Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgin, Keon Coleman joining the show, and more!
04:16 - Keon Coleman joins the show
25:37 - Myles Garrett on staying in Cleveland
51:00 - Bengals pay day for Tee Higgins and Ja’Marr Chase
57:10 - Garrett Wilson happy to have Justin Fields
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Joining us now, Bill Zoom.
Had some injuries this year as a rookie, but hey, still had a strong rookie campaign. Let's welcome Buffalo Bills rookie, Keon Coleman.
Keon, what it do? How y'all doing? Yo, what's up, boy? Where you at, baby? What's that? I'm in Texas right now. Oh, man, listen.
I'm going to be there tomorrow, man. We going to slide.
We going to slide to what you call it. Wait, you in Dallas or Houston? I'm in Houston.
Boy, hey, boy. You in Houston? Boy, what you doing out there? You good? You not married, are you? Nah, nah.
You good. You good're good.
You're going to put some pictures on the
wall anytime soon?
Nah, this is
just a room, man.
This is just a room.
This is an office.
I mean, you know
they hang pictures
on the office.
In the office.
Not yet.
I need some more
pictures in the air zone.
You know,
some crazy.
Put up, duck.
Okay.
You come out,
obviously, you know, second round draft pick, your rookie season. What can you take from this season and how do you build on that going into season number two? Really just stay hungry.
I think that's really the thing I came with, you know, come out of the season with stay hungry. Unfortunately, injuries and stuff like that.
So just continue to take care of your body. And then the on the field stuff, just continue to be where you're supposed to be at.
And the play is going to happen. The playmakers are going to make the plays.
So all that's going to fall in line. Just continue to work harder.
Yeah. Hey, listen, you had a good rookie season.
29 catches, 556 yards, four TDs. It was a good showing.
How's your confidence going in year two? And what do you think the difference is from playing in college and the transition into the NFL? Well, the difficult, most of the time for players, there's a learning curve. Normally, you don't arrive, as we call it, to year three.
What do you think you need to improve on going into year two so the game slows down for you? When the game slows down for you, that's when you know you arrive. So for one, the confidence, confidence is always on the end.
Standing at 1,000 at this point, so I'm real confident going into the next season. My connection with Josh and all that, let's continue to trend in the right direction.
So confident real high. You know, been getting after this offseason training and stuff.
But the biggest difference, college to the NFL, just got to be more technical sound, bro. Everybody's, you know, that much better.
You know, and what makes it even worse, the D-line, that much faster. So that's all it is.
They get back there faster, the ball won't come out faster. And then, understanding that you're not always playing against a guy across from you.
You're really playing a guy that's got that head turned on calling the defensive players. So, you're really playing against the B.C.
So, understanding their tendencies and what they like to do, what they like to take away from certain guys, that's really, you know, who you really be going against. So, once you master that, then, you know, all right.
Keyon, there was a report that came out that some team, I mean, you don't have to name the team if you don't want to, got upset with you from eating fruit snacks in the meeting. Can you elaborate what was said and what made you feel like they got upset with you for eating fruit snacks? I mean, if they would have, the fact that they even mentioned it, it was like, it was like, you know, because it was like a, it was a certain look, man.
You know that look when you're in the meetings for the people and it's just one of those looks in the night that it was like, well, I think they stopped me and was like, you know, just please, you know, just wait till afterwards to eat the snacks. I'm like, I ain't really tripping.
You could have waited till after to say that. You ain't got to interrupt the meeting for that.
Do you feel me? But I'm like, cool. You know how you get all them formal meetings at the camp.
I had like 15 in one day. This was like number 15.
It was all great business, but I was horrible, bro. I ain't going to name a team.
It ain't that serious. You went viral for a lot of your comments that you made during the draft process at the Combine.
Were you surprised by how much attention your answers, the questions that were being asked, are you surprised at how viral those moments went? I mean, with social media nowadays, everybody kind of just looking for a clip or something that's just different. And it's rare guys just be their self, you know, in those type of situations.
They're more intense or, you know, get a robot answers. I'm just me, bro.
Stuff is just going to be said. It's just I'm going to be myself 100% of the time.
And, you know, I mean, they didn't blow up. But, I mean, I couldn't say I didn't expect it.
It kind of just happened. You know, it ain't like I was planning for it.
It just kind of was conversation here and there. And I give you my response and what I think I should say.
And you just go from there. I think that's why so many fans, including myself, I talked about it too, about some of the things that you say, the way you carry yourself.
You authentic. You organic.
You're not politically correct. You're not a robot, which most of the time the NFL wants you to be.
Obviously, you understand there's a fine line you don't want to cross, but you're able to be yourself. And what makes it good for you, why I know you're going to be a superstar, because when you have that organic mentality and you're authentic the way you are and real, and a lot of people can relate to you, and you can play on the field as well, that takes you to a whole different level.
So you got that it factor that you can't even teach, so you ahead of the curve anyway. So my next thing I want to ask you is how do you approach, how did you approach learning the playbook as a rookie? Because I'm thinking about my rookie year when I got to Cincinnati.
Boy, I struggled, boy. I struggled and I really couldn't touch the field the way I wanted to.
How did that go for you, your rookie year? I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't like, it wasn't, I wouldn't say it was hard for her. Like the plays, the playbook, the formation, none of that really was hard.
It made even more sense from the college playbook. You know, I played in a pro style system at Michigan State, then got to Florida State.
It was a number system. So just a combination of both and putting myself to the task.
If I got to Florida State to learn it that fast, it helped. Because I got two different systems to combine and learn these one system.
So it was pretty cool. Yeah, it wasn't that simple for me, Keon.
I ain't going to lie to you. Because the number system, like most people learn the number system.
Two-4-6-8 is to your right.
1-3-5 is to the left.
Well, Tom Landry, it was a defensive coordinator. So when he
got to be a head coach and he started calling
plays, it was reversed.
So 1-3-5 is to your right.
2-4-6-8 is to your left.
So I hear something with an even
number, I'm all ass to the right. I got
this one. Hey, Sean, where you going? 2 even number.
I'm all ass to the right. I got this one.
Hey, hey, Sean, where you, Sean, where you going? Uh, two, four, six, eight is to the right. Oh, so I stayed.
Uh, uh, yeah, it was tough, but I'm glad you was able to pick up because this, as Ocho said earlier, the quicker you can pick it up, the quicker you can let your ability take over and you're not thinking.
And you're like, damn, am I running the right route?
And you're going, because you want to, like you said, everything is fed up.
And you hesitate, you beat in this league because everybody's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
How did you get used to playing into the cold? Because, look, you got cold in Michigan, but Buffalo is a different animal. I mean they're doing
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I mean, once it's below, like, 32, because technically the cold is cold, right? You just got to, you know, got to hold on. Yeah, like, you should be more excited for the game than you is to think about the cold.
Because if it be cold all week, anyway. So, like, the game comes, you know, you might not always practice in the cold, but it's like, but you can make it a few hours in the cold.
Like, this is your profession, right? But if you go through a little routine, my best advice, I'll take a shower before leaving hot games. But if you're cold games, take you a shower.
If you're a Vaseline guy, Vaseline that body down, close them pores. If you're a Tiger Balm guy, whatever you use, use that.
Once you hop out of that shower, them pores is open. Use that Vaseline.
Get right. Get your feet.
Get your hands and your feet. That's the main thing.
Get cold.
Yeah.
Get it right.
Oh, yeah.
I got to keep them toes.
Got to keep them toes warm.
And your fingertips.
Once them two get cold,
them fingers get cold.
You got to catch them like this.
You ain't trying to hit your body.
It'll show the pads already ripped.
Like this cold is frozen.
Yeah, it ain't.
You got to hold that baby. You got to hold that baby.
gotta hold that baby, Keon. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. You'll figure it out.
But the cold really fun, though, because nobody on the defensive side really be trying to hit because it hurt. It hurt.
But they just trying to push me out of bonds and stuff, so you can't just use the off to the rest. Hey, listen, I know you're not a scout.
I know you're not a GM. I know you're not in the front office.
You were a rookie last year, but based on how well you guys played offensively, obviously having Josh Allen, and you know your defense, if you were a GM, if you were in the Bills front office, in the war room draft day, what do you think your team needs to improve if any area needs improving? I think there's always room for improvement. Yeah, always.
We did deal with quite a bit of injuries. But on the defensive side of the ball, I'll go D-line and corner.
And probably look for another guy at safety that can play that hybrid safety position. So up and down, in the box and...
Okay, okay. Yeah.
I'll go D-line. Anywhere on that D-line, I'll go one or two D-linemen, give me a corner.
Actually, I get two corners. You always need that.
Right, right. You can have that.
So I'll give me two corners, and then I'll go give me another receiver that can play different positions out there. What do you think? I saw reports, and it might be possible.
I'm not sure if it's true or not, but maybe Stephon Diggs reuniting, coming back to Buffalo? I don't know. My ear don't be in that door.
I don't know about that. If he come back, I'll be happy to have him, as there's another guy in the the learning phone.
Yeah, listen. Listen, for me from the outside looking in, add another weapon like Stephon that knows offense, that knows Josh Allen.
Most of the pressure wouldn't be on him just being there to contribute in a way. Obviously being a veteran presence, you know, for some of the young guys, I think it would be a good look, you know, for you guys.
So. Hell, I mean, I like it.
I like it.
And you don't
mind-believe it. Like I said,
I don't know. My ear will be in that window.
I don't be hearing about that.
Let me ask you this. We have Josh Allen.
What's it been like? Because you go to
a team and you got one of the better
quarterbacks in the National Football League.
It ain't no, man, I don't know.
I sure hope we can win today.
You got this guy. There's an expectation to win.
There's not a hope. You don't hope to win.
Sometimes you have quarterbacks, man, if the defense can hold them to 17, if we can get a couple of big plays, create turnovers in special teams, we can win. You go out there every week with 17 as your quarterback expecting to win.
What is it meant like playing and having 17 calling plays in the huddle? I mean, it's real fun. You know, we have a lot of fun.
Even throughout the game, we'll be joking around. You know, it's a place where we all can be loose and still be professional and get our job done.
But with him back there, bro, it's a blessing. I say it's a blessing to be able to be blessed with a quarterback of that talent.
As a rookie, as a younger guy, most guys come in and be great but struggle because a quarterback is not up to par, but my quarterback demands greatness. He demands you to be where you need to be and that ball will come on down.
Even if you didn't expect it, it's still that. It's always going to be be a catchable ball it's not easy playing with a guy like that because you have to stay active you might think he's gonna be on one side and like damn how you get way over there and your ball coming out it's like it's not easy ain't any kind of time to say damn run and take off take off when you hear the crowd go ah and start looking find got to take off.
You better go meet them on the other side of the field. You want that rock.
That got to be an awesome feeling, being able to play with somebody that's elite, one of the best in the game. Listen, probably top three, top four in the NFL that can extend plays and playoff scripts.
So regardless of when the play breaks down, you still know you have an opportunity to get a ball. That has to be a great thing.
I got one question that really had nothing to do with football. I think, if I'm not mistaken, Buffalo is known for its wings, yes? Yeah, they got some problems.
If there was a wing spot, I know you've only been there a year, if there was a wing spot and you had to choose where to go to get wings, where would you go?
Barbeal?
Oh, they got this place called...
It's Love Stump. I don't know the name
of it. I just know where it's at.
It's downtown
in Buffalo. But either there or Barbeal.
And y'all got Biddy...
I need them to add that
honey lemon pepper and that hot lemon pepper.
I need both of those flavors on all the menus. Okay Okay That's the only flavor they're missing for me Hot lemon purple And honey lemon purple I need both of those They ain't got no wing stuff out there in Buffalo, huh? Nah I don't got that I don't think so I ain't seen one I mean, you ride across the bridge from Toronto You travel across the bridge? Hey, I Ooh That ain so.
I ain't seen one. Well, you are, I mean, you ride across the bridge from Toronto.
You travel across the bridge? Hey, I, ooh. That ain't no, that ain't right across the bridge.
That's an hour and a half. Man, Toronto ain't no hour and a half.
Man, how you gonna tell me? It's an hour and a half. Because when I came to Buffalo, I went across the bridge.
And that traffic ridiculous. And you heard it, what'd you say, huh? What'd you say, what'd you say, Kev? That traffic ridiculous.
Oh, my. Soon as you cross the border and you get down to Toronto, traffic ridiculous.
Oh, that ain't no change because when we went across there, it wasn't no hour because, you know, we, hey, because, you know, we land, hey, drop them bags off. Well, y'all understand that, dude.
Where y'all understand that of Buffalo? No. Where y'all was saying that? I don't think so because, man.
Y'all had to be. We was like a 20-minute cab ride.
From what? From Toronto. No, you must be talking about from the border.
Once you cross the border, that ain't Toronto. You got to drive to Toronto.
Hey, I don't know, but they tell us we was in Toronto, so I took their word for it. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on, Keon. I'm trying to figure out.
If you flew in for a game, y'all playing the Bills, what you were doing in Toronto? What's in Toronto? Oh, my bad. My bad.
Don't show. My bad.
Hey, my bad. Hey, what I'm saying? Hey, here y'all.
Hey, here y'all. Hey, here y'all.
My bad. My bad.
Hey, that was a long time ago. I don't remember.
I know. What's the name of the spot you went to? I don't remember.
Yeah, you remember. You remember? I might need a go-down.
That was before you was born, Key. I can't even remember that, Key.
I ain't going to hold you. You just remember gold? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everything was a blur. Let me ask you But let me ask you this.
Your Seminoles. So are you more Florida State or are you more Michigan State? Because your Seminoles fell on hard times, this year, Key.
Man, I can't even answer that question. I mean, I've spent more years at Michigan State than I have Florida State.
But Florida State was a real iconic seven, eight months that I was there. So I'm both.
But Michigan State, you know, got a whole new culture that comes from the West Coast. So it's a different program than when I was there.
But you know, some of my same guys still there in the weight room and stuff like that. So I'm both sides.
I'll be watching somewhat. But you know know, most of the guys that I was like, my younger guys when I was there at different schools, so I watch different teams.
Okay. You still think it? You still like, you supporting them? Yeah, I support players more still because teams change.
You're the first coach, all that change. I mean, that's like my favorite player was Kobe.
If Kobe would have ever left, forget the league. You know? So that's just me.
I root for my young guys that was under me and that I played with. And, you know, I got a guy out of Bama that I watch Bama games.
No, I ain't never really watch no Bama games. But he there.
And you got different guys in different areas that I watch their games to support them. Hey, sometimes you wear two mouthpieces, right? I know I'm not sure.
What's that about? Where does that come from? Is that from Little League? Is that something you've always done? I remember seeing you do it at Florida State. If I'm not mistaken, you did in the league too, right? I did it a few games, but man, by the time, I don't even wear a Moke's in the game.
So I just dab them. And if I didn't put them on there before the game, then they probably wouldn't put I put them on.
I was going to say that I used to wear the Apple Watch. Whatever Apple Watch band, they used to send me the bad colors.
A poutine. And I just would wear it.
I just would be trolling wearing 18 colors. It was fine at first when I did it.
But now, everybody's just throwing random colors. It don't hit the thing.
Okay, okay, okay. When it's the opposing team colors, it looks fine.
Okay, I got you.
I got you.
Are you a talker?
Do you talk trash during the game?
Do you like, hey, bro,
you about to find yourself on the waiver
while tomorrow is trying to deal with me.
Nah, I be chilling, bro.
But if they say something to me,
then it's zero to a minute.
Oh, yeah.
I just be vibing.
I come down to do my job. I'm like, ooh, ooh, ooh.
But the moment you say something it could be something nice I don't wanna hear it just don't cry right right we gonna be good so you had you but somebody's doing something then I'm on 10 like I don't now it's over you have any issues with any DBs this year that really talk trash to you or was everybody kinda straight nah, willing, willing, only person said something.
And we see how that will end it,
but that means
shit.
That was the only
person really,
really told me
something all year.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Keyon,
man,
thanks for joining
us tonight,
bro.
We really
appreciate it.
Continued success.
Hey,
build on that
rookie season.
You got your
sophomore season.
Your quarterback's
back in the fold.
It's time to take
that next step,
bro.
It's time to be,
hey,
when we talk about
these top receivers, it's time to make sure Uncle Nocho have your name in that discussion. Yes, sir.
I will be. Trust me.
All right. Congratulations on your rookie season.
We'll see you down the road, man. Take care.
Hey, if you need a DB for some one-on-ones, let me know. I'll lock you up.
Oh, my God. Bring your Cleese and bring Tim Racks.
Wait. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Bring my Cleese and what?
Bring Tim Racks.
We ain't going to run the phone.
I take what you do.
You might as well wire that 10 to me, because if you
ain't never seen my DB skills,
you ain't catching nothing.
And make sure Josh Allen there, because I don't want no
excuse to say I ain't have my quarterback. My sister can throw him on the beat that open.
It don't matter. Get up with a wound.
You. You man before you done bumped your head.
Boy I'm a child of God. Don't do that.
You coming out here soon right? What size you up? I got 11. I got some police for you.
I'll bring you. You training in Houston?
I'll be everywhere.
Whatever you mean.
I'll come now.
I'll come now.
I don't like Miami.
I'm not coming down there.
You got to come see me. I come to Texas.
Who's the quarterback?
I don't want no excuse me.
It don't matter.
It don't matter.
All right.
A blind man can throw it.
I'm that okay.
Okay.
All right.
Say less.
I'm going to see you in a minute.
All right, bro. Congratulations again.
See you down the road, man. Get through it.
I'm dead old. Okay.
All right. Say less.
I'm going to see you in a minute. All right, bro.
Congratulations again. See you down the road, bro.
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Ocho, Miles Garrett explained his change of heart.
He had a John Q moment, a change of heart, and explained why he's staying in Cleveland.
I think I had some frustration, and I feel like that helped us grow and have a conversation where difficult but needed to be had. That created a little more discourse, helped build some relationships and reaffirmed them.
Now I feel like we're in a better place. Now we can move on and grow from there.
Despite Garrett's explanation, the perception surrounding his decision to stay remains.
He was prioritizing money over. We can move on and grow from there.
Despite Garrett's explanation, the perception surrounding his decision to stay remains.
He was prioritizing money over winning.
And NFL Network Kyle Brandt said Garrett should have been more straightforward about role money played instead with the Browns.
It was about money.
And the money said we want to win and we want to do it now.
Eli, I ain't got no problem with that. I have no problem, Ocho, with him getting that kind of money.
Yeah. But he know, how you going to win now if you ain't got no quarterback? Hold on.
You in the same position. The only difference that Myles Garrett is in now is that he got $123 million guaranteed, $100 million over the first three years.
That is the only thing that has changed. Nothing has changed towards him winning.
Yeah. Who are they going to win with, don't you? I have a question.
Yes. You know, you understand, you know why you wanted to leave.
You understand why you wanted to leave. You understood also when you asked to talk to management, they told you we're not talking.
We don't want to talk to you and we're not training you. No, the owner didn't want to have the conversation.
He said talk to Andrew Barry, who's the general manager who's running it. He wasn't finna have no conversation either because you know what we finna do? We know how to get you to want to be here.
We're gonna pay you. Yes.
We going to pay you. He had no more guaranteed money.
All the guaranteed money that he had signed that big contract that made him the highest paid defender at one point in time was gone. Now, instead of pretending like I'm looking greedy and asking for a contract, you know what? I want to win.
I ain't got no... Look, and I don't want anybody to take this the wrong way.
I really don't have a problem with that. Right.
But everybody that's looking at this objectively and realistically knows that Miles Garrett is in no better situation today. The only better situation is financially.
He's in no better situation. They're not even close to winning.
Also, you got to think about it. Him wanting to trade and saying, I don't want to be here,
they wasn't letting him go anyway.
They wouldn't let him go.
So, I mean, you
stuck between a rock and a hard place because
we're not trading you.
Ocho, he knew it.
Listen, even when they want to trade, when players
want to get traded, sometimes they'll come to him
and offer money. Hey, and
guess what? Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer really wanted to be out of there.
Since he couldn't offer him enough money, could they, Ocho? Now, he refused to come. Maybe he said it home.
That's when you want to get up out of there. Right.
Yeah. Miles, it was always about money.
Miles wanted more guaranteed money. Miles wanted to be the highest paid defender.
I got no problem whatsoever.
But I want people to objectively say
you tell me that
Miles Garrett is in a better situation
and is in a situation that's more
conducive to winning today
than he was a month
ago. Right.
I mean, we all understand that.
That's all.
Get your money.
Also, management doesn't want to lose that centerpiece of that defense. Management doesn't want to lose the identity to that defense.
That defense, it was good. It was good.
I'm not sure what the numbers were last night, but if you look at them across the board, they are good. Denzel Ward, Miles Garrett, along with the rest of the support team.
They can be as good as they want to. If your offense ain't no good, you ain't going nowhere.
Yeah. What are they going to do with the quarterback position? We will find out.
Listen, we'll find out. Listen, we'll find out in April.
We're going to find out. We're going to find out in April.
You bring somebody young, you get a veteran presence in there to probably start this year, to at least give you a chance. Maybe Kirk Cousins.
I'm not sure what's going to happen. You know? So, listen, I'm just excited for every goddamn body.
People getting their money. I ain't got no problem with that, buddy.
Yeah, I don't. I don't.
But my thing is, now, unless you get one of these rookies and he's like Jaden Daniels, you're really not going. Now, look, it was reported that Russell Wilson was scheduled to visit.
I saw it last week, so I don't know if that visit happened. Thursday, right? Last week? He was going to the Giants first.
Oh, it was last week. I think so.
Chad, y'all can correct Ochoa and I if we're wrong, but I think I read it last week that he was supposed to have a visit to Cleveland and the Giants, and I don't know which day each visit was scheduled, but that's what I read. Now, the situation, it's also being reported, I don't know if there's any truth to this, that in the process of getting his money, he wanted him to work something out with Nick Chubb.
Right. I don't know.
You read, I read. I don't know what's true.
All I'm just saying is what I read. And I hate that I brought that up because that was in the paper and we don't really know if that's true.
And if it
is, that was a very
noble and honorable thing to do.
One of the guys that's been there
as long as you had,
I think he came
a year before.
No, he came a year after because I think he came with Baker.
I think Chubb was the second round pick
with Baker Mayfield.
I'm almost sure of that. But he's been one of the leaders in the locker room.
He's been one of the leaders in the locker room and Miles felt that he wanted if they're going to win, I want Chubb to be a part of it. Yeah.
I like it. I like it.
Chubb coming off of his second year after ACL tear. I'm sure he's going to have a better season this year.
If we can get Chubb back to the Chubb we're used to seeing, regardless of who's at the quarterback position, I think that makes things a little easier for them in that area, simply because to me it's almost a comparison. I'm not saying Derrick Henry, but he ain't too goddamn far off if you watch Nick Chug play over the years.
He ain't that far off on him. You know what, Ocho, I just don't know.
I mean, that was a serious injury that he's coming back from. Yeah, man.
And he had an injury in college. So the determination, I just hope he can get some resemblance of being the back that he once was.
Most times we don't see power backs. We don't see power backs.
It's been very few power backs have the longevity. Yeah.
Adrian Peterson, Derek Henry. We're talking about not contact, collision backs.
Run to collision. They'll run you over.
I mean, they're not really trying to run nobody. They're trying to punish you and make you turn it down because that tackle that you make in the first and second quarter, you're going to be a little bit more apprehensive in the third and the fourth quarter.
Yeah. And if you notice, as the game progresses, those guys get stronger.
Yeah. Yeah.
Bro, you ain't got to run on me but one time with a bus. I will dodge that bus the next time I see that mofo coming.
Listen, every time. Every time.
I've never seen a running back. There have been many of them.
I've never seen a running back run as violently,
as violently as all day.
Adrian Peterson.
I ain't never seen Adrian Peterson,
Marion Barber didn't have the same type of success or acceleration or,
or I'm going to have the longevity,
the longevity,
but something about Adrian Peterson,
he played,
what did they do wrong to you for you to run the ball like that? Mm-hmm. Angry.
Beast Mode ran like that. Oh, my goodness.
Beast Mode played, Beast Mode had a long career. Yeah, he had a career.
But if you go back and look at the guy that comes to the top of my head, I don't know how many people in the chat don't have to remember, was Earl Campbell. Earl was like that.
But Earl only lasted like seven, eight years, and I don't know if y'all have seen Earl. Earl has been in a wheelchair for the last 20, 25 years.
For real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Earl has done great off the field.
He got a meatpacking, hot links, and stuff like that, sausages steak, stuff like that. So he's done really well.
But Earl ran to contact. He was a collision back, not a contact because contact and collision are two different things.
And normally those guys that run to have collisions, they don't have a longevity. Adrian Peterson played, what, 12, 13 years.
You see D. Henry play the number of years he's playing.
I mean, he went for 2,000. He was on a pace to have another 2,000 yards.
He got hurt rushing for about 1,100 with eight games to go. So he was on pace to get another.
Had a knee injury. Bounces back from back.
Go get 1,500. Come to the Ravens.
Goes and get 1,900. That's crazy.
I've never seen anything like Derrick Henry. I can honestly say I've never seen anything like Derrick Henry.
A guy runs like that that goes over 2,000 and then comes within 80 yards from having 2,000 again? Right. That's crazy.
It absolutely is. But hopefully Chubb can get some of what he lost, Ocho, from that injury because you know every time, Ocho, them injuries, they take a little bit out of you every time.
It does. Take a little bit out of you every time.
Yeah. Yeah, it does.
But listen, even as a Bengal fan, I would love, I would love the Browns at full strength and whatever decisions they do make, whether it be in offseason acquisitions, whether it be through the draft, I would love them at full strength when they do play my Bengals so there are no excuses about, oh, we didn't have a quarterback or our running back was hurt. I want to make sure Miles Garrett is there when we put up 50 points.
I want him at full strength. I'm sure we have people in the chat that are Browns fans.
I love you. I love you dearly.
I love you dearly. But come this season, we know who's running the AFC North.
I know we have Ravens fans. Who? Ravens.
I know we have Ravens fans in the chat. And you know how I feel about you.
And I tell you this. I've been telling you this in 2001.
I love every last one of you. Huh? Every last one of you.
Oh, Joe, y'all ain't one but a handful of games. Damn.
Let me finish my speech. We know this year, 2025, the AFC North is coming through the 513 if you need me to come sit with y'all at MNT Bank what's it called MNT Bank yeah what's the area called a Raven 443 anybody from BMO in the chat what is it3? I know we got Ravens fans in the chat.
Definitely. Definitely.
I love every last time. First of all, we already know Cincinnati don't run nothing but they run.
Y'all don't run nothing. Ain't nothing coming through no Cincinnati.
Stop that. One thing that you can learn about my organization that you can see that we prove we've done something historical that we've never done before that was out of character 14 that's right 14 14 what's that? Baltimore okay okay okay okay okay oh it is 443 I remember yeah I used to have I ain't never had no Ravens I think I had a landline I did have a a landline.
But that was 20 years. Man, hold on first of all, Ocho.
You make me see I had a landline yesterday. Hell, that was 20 years ago when I was in Baltimore.
But the way you said it, like it was yesterday. So you don't have a landline in your house right now? No.
Why not? Who gonna call me on the landline? People call you on your cell phone. Oh, yeah, you on your cell phone I was just asking When the last time you seen the pay phone Let me tell you what that Y'all remember this right here I can't see it That's a no key That's a no key That's B and O A who? Hello? Yeah Yeah Baby Yeah, yeah It's about Carpet Tall, big booty Yeah, yeah Carmen Tall, big booty
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
Yeah
I saw her
She got like two kids
Yeah, she still look good
Yeah, all right
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on
Let me call you back
This is my brother calling
Let me call you back
Hey, let me get that right there
Thank you. Mm-mm.
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me call you back.
This is my brother calling. Let me call you back.
Hey, Joe, let me get that right there. Hey, that just had conversation be going to, huh? Yeah.
Oh, Joe. Look at that.
Look at that right here. Look at that right here.
Who the hell to get, don't joke? That's us? Who the hell again, Coach? That's us?
Yeah, that's y'all. And guess what?
In the end zone, I win.
What?
What number is that? What number is that?
That bangle jersey?
I don't know. What we call a rerun.
You remember how rerun was chasing that truck on what's happening?
Right.
That's him.
That's him.
That's my rookie, ain't it? Uh, I don't think you was there yet, Ocho. Okay.
And then, October 7, 2001, that is you. That's your rookie year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was there.
I'm trying. I wonder what Darnay and P-Dub did that game.
Nothing. Nothing.
Not a damn thing. I don't know about that.
I don't know about that. I know.
I know nothing. They knew nothing.
Who won the game? I lost one game in 14 years to the Bengals. Did I score? I don't think so.
Y'all beat when we came to y beat us, I think y'all beat us by like three points. Yeah, that was me, that was me, that was me.
Hey. Nah, that wasn't you.
That wasn't you. Nah.
But, uh, no, I look, I don't want people to think, I got a problem, I don't got no problem with Miles Garrett. I just think the thing was, that was his play all.
He played it perfectly. He played it perfectly.
Right. He did.
Look at it right here, Ocho. What's that? I know that's not a camcorder.
Hey, you better know it.
Hey, you know, as soon as I seen the bag, I knew what it was, huh?
Hey, I know you went to free me.
Hey, be like Spike Lee, do the right thing.
So you was there? You was there? Was I? I want to see the footage. No, you can't see this, Ojo.
No? Mm-mm. All things will stop.
Everything.
Hey, boy, I could imagine, boy.
This is going right back to the vault.
I could imagine.
You still got a VCR?
Nah.
I bet you ain't got no CD player.
Nah, but I got a bunch of cell phones upstairs.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. A bunch of them.
I'm talking about, I got to keep all my cell phones. I bet you ain't got no sidekick.
Nah, I wasn't any sidekick, so I ain't going to lie to you. You had a beeper, a pager? Nope.
I bet you ain't got the Motorola Block phone. I do got, it's in Glenville.
I got the big one. Yeah, the big one.
Okay, okay. I got the Star Tech.
I got a bunch of phones upstairs. Okay, okay, okay.
Hold on just a second. Keep on talking.
Let me go upstairs right quick. Hold on.
All right, Chad. Listen, Chad, while he goes upstairs and rummages through all the stuff from the 80s, and I want to talk about my Bengals.
I want to talk about my Bengals, and I want to tell y'all what's going to happen this year. Now, I've always been right when it comes to predicting stuff and I'm really wrong.
I'm really wrong. Now, I think about last year, I was wrong twice in a 17, 18 game season, including the playoffs.
I guess the playoffs all the way right. I said the Eagles are probably going to win the Super Bowl again.
They were going to play the Chiefs. Boom.
I was right. So this year, the AFC North is going to go through Cincinnati.
It's going to go through Cincinnati. So what's going to happen, the way it's going to play out is we're probably going to score 40 to 50 points a game.
40 to 50 points a game, and our defense is going to be adequate and just good enough to stop teams, maybe allow maybe 17 to 20 points a game. That's how it's going to go.
I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know because it's the way the game goes and just the way, the way things are flowing in general for us as an organization to do something that's never been done before.
That's out of character for us as, as a team and organization, it's going to reward ourselves. The football gods are going to reward us simply because we did something that we've never done before and we made history.
Okay? I think, I think, now I don't have the numbers in front of me, it's possible that we can sign Trey Hendrickson. I think it's possible.
And so we're do that now that's one staple that's one staple that we can have that's part of the ecosystem defensively if we can get that back I'm not sure secondary we got some good dudes out there on the corner safety I'm not sure what's going on with Vaughn and some of the safeties and whatnot. But outside of that, if you're a gambler man, if there are any gambler women in the chat, I'm telling you now, put your money, put your money on the bangles.
All right. We're going to be in San Francisco and I'm going to meet you all there sometime in February.
And that's it. Outside of that, I hope you all had a good Monday.
I had a great Monday. You see my jacket.
This is leopard or cheetah. I'm not sure.
They all look the same. Hello.
I love y'all. I don't know what else to say right now.
Oh, so this is the only one I can fire at. You remember this one? That's a razor.
That's a razor. A StarTech.
StarTech, right right? See, I knew it was either Razor or StarTech. One or the other.
Chad, y'all got this. The antenna come up, right? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember them.
I remember them. I remember that.
I remember that. Yeah.
We a beeper at. I ain't have no beeper.
Oh, yeah. I still got...
But I gotta get Shelly. I'm weird.
I have them, Ocho, because I know Shelly put them somewhere. But I got about...
I think Ocho... Same one out.
Shelly put them somewhere, but I got like 17. I got the original iPod.
You remember the iPod that hold 10,000 songs?
Oh, the big thick one.
Yes, I got that.
Listen, I got all my HBCU band music on that old iPod.
I told you it was thick too, boy.
Yeah, I got it.
Hey, I keep everything.
Old MacBook.
Hey, what you be doing with all that, man?
I don't let nothing go.
Hey, you see the big computer behind me, old Joe?
I got big desktop, too.
Hey, listen, you can have a yard sale and make a grip, boy.
Oh, no.
You ain't gonna sell it?
No. Mm-mm.
I don't want nobody to get no information out here. Oh, no.
You ain't going to sell it? No. I don't want nobody to get no information out here.
Oh, no. Uh-uh.
Uh-uh. Oh, no.
What you got on there? You acting like 007. I don't know what's on there.
Okay, okay. But I tell you what, ain't nobody else going to find out what's on there either.
I got you. I got you.
You don't want to slip up, huh? No, I want everything I told you, Ocho. Yeah.
I would need a crane in my casket. To carry my casket, six can't do it.
Two-minute skeletons. Two-minute secrets, Ocho.
Two-minute secrets. I got you.
I got you I got you I got you uh uh oh DJ who's bizar Ocho you had three catches for 28 yards wait I only had I only had three for 28 yep damn I'm sorry as hell I had more than you I had three for 28? Yep. Damn, I'm sorry as hell.
I had more than you. I had three for 32.
Hold on, I thought I caught a touchdown in that game. Nah, you didn't catch none.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got tackled on that play.
That might have been... That was my...
That was my first year in Baltimore. I caught a touchdown.
Look at 2000, Ash. I Baltimore I caught a touchdown.
Look at 2000, Ash.
I thought I caught a touchdown on them.
Travis Taylor had four for 66.
I had three for 32.
Coddry had three for 31.
Brandon Stokely had one for 23.
Todd, he had one for 18.
Williams had two for five.
Ocho, he aver average 10 yards of catch.
Yeah.
9.3.
Y'all have 153 yards.
What, an offense?
Yeah, passing.
Oh, that's bad.
Yeah.
TJ led y'all with 63.
You was next with 28.
That's me.
That's me.
That's me.
I would get... Johnny Scott had one for 28.
That's me. That's me.
That's me. I was just...
Johnny Scott had one for 20. Danny
Farmer had two for 16.
Corey had two for 12. Peter Warrick had
one for seven. Ron Duggins had one
for four. And Lorenzo Neal had one
for three. Hey, Zo!
Oh, Zo!
I saw... As a matter of fact,
I just saw him at the Super Bowl,
Ojo. Zo? Yeah.
Yeah, that's my guy, man. Lorenzo was funny, boy.
Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah, in 2000, I scored.
Had five for 40 in the tub. That wasn't me.
As long as we won the game, though. Y'all didn't win the...
Y'all actually... Hold on.
Pull up a... Ash.
Pull up Cincinnati's totals.
I guarantee we won that game.
Pull up that total.
I don't think y'all...
Y'all might not have scored.
Don't do that.
I definitely...
Boy, we not...
Boy, they not...
Go back and look at that film
and watch Rob Burnett.
If y'all see the highlights,
go back and look at that here.
In 2000, Rob Burnett
put on a Keeley Smith., go back and look at that here. In 2000, Ron Burnett put on a Keely Smith.
He about not played no more that year.
Well, he must have caught him from the blast side, huh?
Boy, hey, caught him.
Hey, he was looking just like this.
No, he was like this.
And Ron Burnett, he put his helmet right up on his chin.
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Bengals, Jamar Chase, and T. Higgins exclusively tell me they've agreed to contract extension with the team.
Jamar gets four years, $161 million with $112 million guaranteed, making the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history. T.
Higgins gets four years, 115 with the first two years guaranteed, making him the highest paid wide receiver two in NFL history. Wow.
Congratulations, brother Jamar Chase, brother T. Higgins.
They got that deal done. Joe Burrow, I know know Joe is happy very happy to keep that
unit together
obviously I didn't think it would be
possible
obviously I can't break down the numbers right now
in front of me but the fact
that Joe was able to keep
the two main
guys together
is a really good thing and that's a step in the right direction for us NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN end of the season. So, I'm happy for them.
I'm excited. And kudos to the Blackburn family, to Mike Brown,
in getting that done.
And let's get some work on that defense in now.
Yeah, I don't see how they pay Trey Hendrickson.
He wants north of $30 million.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't see how.
I'm not saying it can't be done.
I just don't see how.
Do you think it's possible to still pay
Thank you. north of $30 million.
Right. Yeah.
I don't see how. I'm not saying it can't be done.
I just don't see how. Do you think it's possible to still pay trade? What do you think? I mean, that's tying all the money up and just...
Yes! He's going to want north of $30 million. Right.
The man has 35 sacks in two years. Nobody has that many sacks in the past two years.
Right. He's been a Pro Bowler both years.
I just thought, like I said, it couldn't happen. Yes.
And the question is that you have to ask yourself, what, Joe, is the opportunity to go to the Super Bowl, potentially win it over the next two years, is that worth, is that worth, potentially, being a salary cap held in 27, 28? Right. This is about 25, 26, this is what this is about.
Well, you know, there's a way you can get out of salary cap held is by continuing to restructure those that have large contracts. But all you're doing is kicking it down the road.
You're not doing it. You're kicking it down the road because that balloon baby is going to come up due now.
Oh, at some point. At some point.
But hey, congratulations. I know all...
Listen, I know my Bengal fans, I know y'all happy, man. Zim Hude, I love you.
The deal has gotten done. I'm excited.
I'm happy for both of them. I just want to make sure we do what we need to do on the defensive end of the ball.
We had our problems, our issues offensively, and just started late. Just started late in the beginning of the season.
We need to fix that. Fix that.
I think we're going to be all right. But we need to work on that defensive side of the ball and get some offseason acquisitions in, you know, some help on defense.
And I think we're going to be all right. All right.
Yeah. Who they? O.J.
Brooks, breaking news. Higgins and Chase are back.
I mean, let's see. 41, that's 71, Joe Burrow.
So that's $126 million annually tied up in three players. That's life.
How much is that tied between two, huh? $55 million for Joe, $41 million for Chase, $30 million for Higgins.
Okay.
That's good, too.
That's $126 million.
I like that.
That means if you sign Hendrickson, that would be over $150 million.
So you'll have half your cap, over half your cap and four players. Woo.
I just don't see how to do it. We'll see how they do it.
Hold on. I think it's going to pay off.
This is something. This is having the Bengals ever roll the dice like this before.
No. Has Mike Brown ever rolled a dice? won't change, sometimes you have to do things different.
The definition of insanity and doing the same thing over and over and over and over and getting the same results and expecting something to change, the fact that he's willing to change, the fact that the Blackburn family and the Mike Brown family are willing to do something different, it lets you know, all right, you know what? We are intent on winning. We're intent on winning and doing what's necessary to make sure we do.
For one, to contend in the AFC North and then further ourselves in the playoffs when the time comes. I like it.
I like it. I'm excited.
I'm excited. I saw T.
T. Higgins just tweeted, T.
Higgins just tweeted the handshake, handshake emoji. That's dope.
That's tight. That's tight.
I'm happy. I'm excited.
Yeah, so when we win the AFC North, you know why. It ain't happening.
Did the Ravens trade L. Jack? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
is not what we're not going to do. This is not what we're going to do.
The AFC North, this year, I'm not talking about what's happened in the past. I'm talking about this year.
It's running through Cincinnati. It's running through 5-1-3.
I'm just letting you know ahead of time. No one has ever said the road to the Super Bowl goes through Cincinnati.
You know what? And you know what happened? No one has ever seen Mike Brown and Troy and Katie do what they've done today. Okay.
Okay. All right.
Ocho, there has reportedly been quite the vibe shift for wide receiver Garrett Wilson after the New York Jets moved on from Aaron Rodgers and added Justin Fields this offseason. Yeah.
Wilson has told friends he's thrilled with the addition of Fields. ESPN's Rich Cimini wrote Sunday, it's no secret that he and Rodgers didn't see eye to eye last season.
But now he has a quarterback he knows and respects. They've maintained a good relationship, another reason Wilson said to be excited about 2025.
In December, the NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported all is not well with Rodgers and Wilson and added that privately there have been questions regarding whether Rodgers or Wilson can find common ground since they had a blow-up during training camp, which I tried to tell Ocho. Ocho said, don't worry about that.
Yeah, I didn't think it would be anything bad because I've had those same kind of talks with John Kidd and I've had those same talks with Carson Palmer. But not every day.
Oh, not every day. I thought it was just that one clip.
No, you saw them talking every day. Yeah, most of the time, I think they weren't able to get on the same page.
Aaron Rodgers wanted things done a certain way, and Garrett Wilson was kind of complaining. Whatever it may have been, it didn't work out.
I like the fact that he had Justin Fields, and I know one thing. Goddamn, Fields is going to give that ball to Brother Wilson.
He's going to feed it to him, and they're going to find ways to get him back where he was his rookie season. Yeah.
Where he's very productive. Because after this season, hey, they got to come see five with that bag now.
Yeah. They got to come see five with that bag.
He's the top 10 receiver in the NFL right now. He didn't look like it from a productive standpoint last year because the offense was in disarray, but he's going to get back to that.
This is Justin Fields year too.
Justin Fields can make himself some good money.
You know,
if he had a good season,
huh?
They'll redo it.
Yeah.
If he,
if he had himself a good season and they'd be like,
you know what?
This is the quarterback of the future for us.
And he played,
play.
I think he should play.
Now that you have nothing to worry about behind you, you ain't got to worry about nobody taking your spot. All you have to do is just play football freely and just focus.
This is your team. This could be your team.
They can hand you the keys. Oh, Joe, I just found it odd that Garrett Wilson was Offensive Rookie of the Year and looked better with Zach Wilson and those guys than he did with Aaron Rodgers.
I just found it odd. What quarterback? Zach Wilson.
I think he had Joe Flacco. Mike White.
I think he had a couple of different quarterbacks. And the guy was offensive rookie of the year, Ocho.
Zach Wilson. That was the guy.
Yeah. Okay.
So, look. And sometimes, like you said, Rodgers was used to doing things a certain way.
And that way, you know, at the end of the day, we got to get a week. Look, if we're trying to do the same thing, they have to be a give and take.
Right. Okay, I understand that you are.
But I can't do everything that you want. I need you to meet me.
Can we meet in the middle? Somewhere halfway. Can we meet in the middle? You gotta be on the same page.
Yeah. You gotta be.
I'm not saying that we can't go to brunch, but can we not? Do we have to go to brunch every Sunday? Of every week? Can we like
just stay home
and can I watch the games?
I mean, there has to be a happy medium
somewhere, Ocho. I understand who you
are, but understand that, look,
am I as accomplished as you? No.
No.
But don't think I'm not fair to cheat
around this month.
Come on now.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You got to be on the same page.
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