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Speaker 4 Ocho, check this out. Longtime cowboy, Demarcus Tank Lawrence, signed with the Seattle Seahawks this week.
Tank took some shots at the Cowboys when he got there.

Speaker 4 Let's take a listen to the video, courtesy of Hawk Blogger on YouTube. Take a listen to this, Ocho.
No, Dallas is my home. I made my home there.
You know, my family lives there.

Speaker 4 You know, I'm forever going to be there. But, you know, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.
So

Speaker 4 we here. We're here.
DeMarcus Lawrence, welcome to the Seahawks.

Speaker 13 Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 Wow. Hold on, Ocho.
Michael Parsons in.

Speaker 4 This is what rejection and envy look like. This is some clown-ish.

Speaker 4 D-Law responded, calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left.
Demon. I like it.
I like it. Wow.

Speaker 4 I like it. I like it.
Listen. Wow.

Speaker 4 They don't really feel like that about each other. But you know, you know how it is.
You know, when somebody leaves and they go somewhere else and they understand and they see how the culture is.

Speaker 4 And listen,

Speaker 4 the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. How long ago? How long ago that was on? That wasn't that long ago, man.

Speaker 4 2012. Okay, that.

Speaker 4 Nah, 20. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
2020. 2013.
2013. Listen, the Ravens won it, 2012.
They won 2013. They've won more recently than the Cowboys have.
I can tell you that.

Speaker 4 Mr.

Speaker 4 Lawrence, who's been in Dallas for a very long time and understanding why they haven't won one, as opposed to how the fans see why they haven't won one, and understanding that Jerry's bottom line isn't really about winning, but making money, he actually has the ground to stand on being able to say that now he's going somewhere else because you can see how things are run.

Speaker 4 He can see how things are run. Well, hell, they haven't won a Super Bowl or trying to win one or

Speaker 4 building the type of team to win one in a very long time. They haven't.

Speaker 4 So he's just telling the truth and understand, Micah, Micah has to do. You got to come.
You got to defend your team. You got to defeat your squad.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 For me, Ocho, you have to be careful when you go to another team because, you know, the emotion of it and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 4 We're so much, this team is so much better than the team that I left. So you have to be careful of that because it's easy to get caught up into that.

Speaker 4 Because I remember having my press conference and I was like, I wanted to say certain things but i had to be like okay come on now you be the be the bigger person you're happy that uh uh you enjoyed your 10 years in denver it was an opportunity hey somebody gonna give you another opportunity to be what you were and you appreciate that uh

Speaker 4 i'm a little surprised that that that i'm surprised d-law said what he said i'm surprised michael said what he said and i'm really really surprised d-law responded but not really how could you respond how could you not You got two people that love each other.

Speaker 4 You know, hurt people, hurt it. Hurt people, hurt people.

Speaker 4 That ain't real. Yes, true.
What's about two dudes that play the same position that been on the team, you know, three, four years, how many years they've been together?

Speaker 4 They don't really feel like that. He just.

Speaker 4 I thought you would have said that just because we play together, we don't mean we, we, we, we, we,

Speaker 4 even so, but they get along. I'm telling, I'm telling you, I know them boys, you know, they ain't no hard feelings.
You call it quickly. You ever caught, you ever called TJ a clown?

Speaker 4 You ever called TJ a clown? Nah,

Speaker 4 you ever called Carson a clown? No, or T.O.

Speaker 4 You ever called Corey Dillon a clown? No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 oh, damn. I'm trying to figure out.
You ever called Big Willie? Willie, my homeboy, from the hay. You ever called Willie a clown? Nah, you know, you know, you

Speaker 4 damn. You mean to tell me, you ain't called nobody no clown that you still got to understand.

Speaker 4 I'm an offensive player and I get along with everybody.

Speaker 4 I'm just trying to figure out. So, who have you called a clown that you love and you cool with?

Speaker 4 Nobody.

Speaker 4 I think I love everybody, Uncle That's my problem.

Speaker 4 I think that's my problem. But again, you can, I mean, it's football, Unc, you know?

Speaker 4 That's love talking. That's her talking.
Man, I used to go to war with you. Well, what you talking about? We used to watch film.
We used to study film together. What you talking about?

Speaker 4 We was in the weight room together. What is you talking about?

Speaker 4 Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Name the three people that'll tell you the truth.
Drunk, kids, angry people.

Speaker 4 They'll tell you,

Speaker 4 listen, that's a unknown. Can I say something real quick?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Anytime someone is angry at you, whatever they tell you when they're angry, you have to hang on to that because that's how they really.
What you just said he didn't mean that.

Speaker 4 You said when my compartment rejection, it would look like there's some clown stuff. You told me not to mention that.
Hold on now. Hold on.
Stay. You know? now.
Okay,

Speaker 4 I really, I really wasn't talking. I really wasn't talking male to male.
Now, just I'm just throwing it out there for the fellas.

Speaker 4 You got to stay with me, okay?

Speaker 4 Oh, so when a feeble, when a woman tells you that, yeah, I'm hanging on to everybody.

Speaker 4 You got to, you got to hang on that. Because listen, when they drunk, they'll tell you how they really feel.
When they're angry, oh, they

Speaker 4 give you everything, everything you wish for. Oh, that's how you

Speaker 4 okay.

Speaker 4 A drug because a drunk mouth is so with false. okay bet i'm gonna i'm gonna put that i'm gonna put that in my back pocket and i'm gonna hold on to it

Speaker 4 you can't never forget nothing but listen uh you know you know them boy them boy them that ain't serious like that now that ain't serious i have i do have to defend my team well since you take a shot at me you calling me a clown well i'll tell you what well if your ass get off goddamn stop tweeting and doing whatever you're doing maybe we win more and i wouldn't have left and you were gonna leave regardless because they were finna pay you you weren't staying no way but i'm just you see you see what i'm saying this is they ain't just just bickering back and forth you know two friends i get it yeah why i bet you see i bet you see him in a video or a picture some sometime later on in the season watch

Speaker 4 before

Speaker 4 that was you thinking

Speaker 4 i mean i didn't i didn't i mean look d-law been there for a minute second round draft pick played a number of years there have a hell of a career in dallas i i would have never thought he would leave because one thing jerry does jerry take care of his players guys that he drafts he believes in playing, hating his homegrown talent.

Speaker 4 And D. Law has been there for at least a decade, maybe longer,

Speaker 4 maybe longer.

Speaker 4 But he felt it was time for him to move on. He wanted to be in a situation that he felt gave him a better opportunity, excuse me, to win.
I'm sure the money, what, three years, 15 million?

Speaker 4 Per year. I'm saying per year, three years, 45 million, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 Don't quote me on that. I think I read something.

Speaker 4 I didn't know anything about this until we just get ready to come on the show and ask

Speaker 4 Ash,

Speaker 4 text me asking me, did I see this? I didn't because

Speaker 4 I was exhausted. I came in and went to bed.

Speaker 4 I ain't going to lie. I came in and went to bed, man.
Like, whoo.

Speaker 4 Oh, he played 11th season in Dallas. He's about to play his 12th season.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 I like it. Matter of fact, what is schedule at? Do the Cowboys play the Seahawks this year? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 that's what I'm talking about. Give me, give, give me, make it a little bit more entertaining.
Have a few.

Speaker 4 I would feel more entertaining if one was on offense and one was off. Okay, I understand.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? Don't show both of them on different side, so they're never going to come in contact. It's kind of like me and you talking trash to each other.

Speaker 4 You on offense, I'm on offense.

Speaker 4 Even if we play the same side of the ball and we're going at it, that means now we got to show up. Now, who's going to be more productive? Who's going to have the better game?

Speaker 4 Who's going to get the most? He's going to get the most sacks. Whatever it may be.
How can who's going to impact the game more, even if we do play the same position?

Speaker 4 It don't matter. Because when I was on the Ravens, if I was talking trash to another offensive player, I already know my staffs are going to be better than yours because you weren't going to do jack.

Speaker 4 Not against that defense.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. So it didn't matter.
It didn't matter. It didn't matter what I did.
I might have one catch. That was going to be more and more than you got.

Speaker 4 That's what I do. That's what I know.
And if you didn't get a catch, you're going to wish you hadn't caught it because they were going to put hats on your ass.

Speaker 4 So, so for me,

Speaker 4 yes, I love arguing with D lineman. That's who I got into the most argue with.
Rest his soul,

Speaker 4 Taz, Tez Kennedy. Rest his soul, chester mclauder i stayed into it with him

Speaker 4 i stayed

Speaker 4 every every time we played there's not one game that i didn't when chat was with uh uh uh the raiders or kansas city that i didn't get into it with him chat was uh uh uh taz was the same way

Speaker 4 sam adams too

Speaker 4 Yeah, he came one of my best friends. But boy, hey, stop, man.

Speaker 4 And the lineman gets so upset. They're like, man, you ain't got got to block him.
I was like, well, hey, hey, that ain't got nothing to do with me. He's talking crazy to me.

Speaker 4 What you think I'm going to do? Let him talk crazy to me. And because y'all got to block him, don't take crazy back.
Man, I wish I might.

Speaker 4 Put your big boy pants on. Buckle up.

Speaker 4 Forget you, Reroy.

Speaker 4 But hey, those great, that was some great times on the show. Josh Allen was asked

Speaker 4 why he didn't look to break Dak Prescott's $60 million per year record contract extension.

Speaker 4 I know it's weird to say, but what's 5 million more going to do for my life right now that I can't already do? I've lived a really good life. I got a house, got a car.
We're good.

Speaker 4 Do you like Josh saying this? I love, oh, we're not talking about it. Ocho, what the hell can I, what can't I do

Speaker 4 with 330 million

Speaker 4 that I can do with 400 million? So he said, I'm making 55.

Speaker 4 What can I do with 55 million that I can only do with 60 million? What?

Speaker 4 Once you get to a certain number, it's like

Speaker 4 Elon Musk is the world's richest man. Let's just say he's worth $4 billion.
On Joe,

Speaker 4 what can I do with $100 billion? What can I do with $50 billion? What can I do with 10 billion that I absolutely need to do to have that?

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 so he's like, bro, 55, 60. Do you see how I got a quarter of a billion guaranteed?

Speaker 4 A quarter of a bit. Damn that.

Speaker 4 Look, if you're going to guarantee me a quarter of a billion, I'll make 40 million. If you're going to guarantee a quarter of a billion, Ocho.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 me personally, not to cut you off, Ocho, I love that he said that. Tell me what you think.
I mean, I like it. It makes sense.
It makes me make some sweet sense. Who would argue the fact?

Speaker 4 I'm just curious. Who would argue the fact?

Speaker 4 Outside of someone with nobody. You know what happens when you get greedy, right?

Speaker 4 It only makes sense.

Speaker 4 Pigs eat well, hogs get slaughtered. Hey, man,

Speaker 4 stay right there. Stay right there.

Speaker 4 Man, you better stop. Well, you better stop playing.

Speaker 4 Bring that. Listen, hold on, hold on.
Bring it to me slow now.

Speaker 4 yeah pigs eat good hogs get slaughtered

Speaker 4 i don't i don't know what scenario i'm going to be able to use this in conversation or argument

Speaker 4 but it is it's it's

Speaker 4 i'm feeling it greed greed money

Speaker 4 that's what it's talking about greed But it's like Josh said, Josh, like at the end of the day, and the thing is, like, what Mahomes did is like, okay, he got that big number.

Speaker 4 But, and we knew Mahomes,

Speaker 4 if, if Josh is worth a quarter of a Billy, how much is a guy that's been to five Super Bowls, one, three, two league MVPs, three, five, three, three Super Bowl MVPs?

Speaker 4 What, what's that worth? But he's like, you know what? At the end of the day, I need to be able to

Speaker 4 surround myself because Tyler, I can't win this thing by myself. No matter how great I am, I need people around me.

Speaker 4 I mean, look.

Speaker 4 Football players have to have that because there's a gap.

Speaker 4 Baseball players are always, for the most part, going to get the most money because

Speaker 4 they keep trying to push the salaries through the ceiling.

Speaker 4 And so you see,

Speaker 4 ain't no,

Speaker 4 what's his name, Soto? Juan Soto. Taking a 500 million.
Oh, boy, yeah.

Speaker 4 Taking 500 million when there's somebody out there that got 700 million for it.

Speaker 4 You know, guys, they're not doing that because they're not like, look, it's not my responsibility because there is no cap ojo so it's like hey whatever the market of bear

Speaker 4 whatever the team is willing to pay that's where we're going so if we got two three four guys on the team that's making 200 million 250 million so be it

Speaker 4 so absolutely be it but i love i love what uh josh said and

Speaker 4 Look, I'm not going to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do. Josh said, I'm good at 55.
I don't need 60 because anything that I want at 50, if I need 60 to do it, I'm going to be Funky.

Speaker 4 He kept it in the realm also

Speaker 4 from a point of being paid where I'm still being paid with the best, but also we can instruct some points. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm going to continue to build around me so I can be able to contend to compete, not only get to the, not only get to the AFC championship, but also be able to compete and contend for a Super Bowl as well.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to take 55. I'm not going to take 60 because I take 60.
It's going to take some of the potential off the table for me based on what I can put around me to help improve my team.

Speaker 4 I keep a good play for five years. You ain't going to lowball me too much now.

Speaker 4 No, no, no. No, no, no, no.
You're not going.

Speaker 4 Oh, sure. You can lowball me.
Give me a quarter billy guarantee. Lowball all you want to.
You can give me five million a year.

Speaker 4 Hey, long as I know I got

Speaker 4 quarter of a billion. That guarantee is right, huh?

Speaker 4 Oh, for sure.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Look, I don't, look, I don't tell anybody what

Speaker 4 he or she should do. That's you.
You make the best decision for you. I don't have a problem with Josh and his mentality.
Now, somebody like Chase, if Chase says, nah, bro, y'all made me wait.

Speaker 4 I need all of that. If I'm not mistaken,

Speaker 4 Josh had four years left on his deal. Listen, you got to understand, they view the quarterback position a lot, a lot different than other positions.
A lot different.

Speaker 4 And you have to understand the Bengals as well. But the Bengals won't do,

Speaker 4 you're not going to bully them. They've shown that countless times when Carson was upset.

Speaker 4 When Carson

Speaker 4 wanted out, or he didn't see fit and said, I'm not coming back until I'm traded, whatever it may be. There have been other issues as well.
Hell,

Speaker 4 I even. tried to try being upset, but they showed me, yeah, yeah, okay, that ain't fit to work.

Speaker 4 So then they weren't going to set a precedent, even with Chase having two years left with a deal. Okay, we're going to pay you early.
That's not us. That's not what we do.
We don't care who you are.

Speaker 4 And they proven that and they've stood firm on that stance regardless of who it's been. So I understand.

Speaker 4 He's going to get his money this year, though, north of 40. But let me tell you what you do.

Speaker 4 But see, here's the thing, Ocho. You have to think a year or two in advance.
before you decide to own out.

Speaker 4 So now, hey,

Speaker 4 if I'm married, baby, hey, no extravagant spending. We're going to lock this thing down because I feel we might be in a protracted holdout.

Speaker 4 So now I got to make sure everything is lined up because they know my money where it is, they know.

Speaker 4 So knowing they know I got 30 million or I'm sitting on 30 million, I'll sit out these first eight, nine games. I'll come back because I got to make sure I'm vested.

Speaker 4 I got to make sure I'm not going to give them a whole year. Y'all going to do something.
Y'all won't pay me? Hey,

Speaker 4 I'm going to go somewhere else and get paid then. Cause y'all not finna do this.
Y'all told me last year y'all gonna pay me. I come out and have one of the great seasons in NFL history.

Speaker 4 And now y'all talking about y'all not gonna pay me again? Oh, that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4 That's not gonna happen. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 Y'all paid everybody else. Y'all ain't got no problem paying everybody else.
But now, all of a sudden, y'all don't want to pay me. Oh, give me me.

Speaker 4 Give me me. I need all that.
Uh, and then you hear Ocho, they want a first-round draft pick for Trey Hendrickson. Ain't nobody gonna give you that.

Speaker 4 Y'all want me to give y'all a first-round draft pick and pay a 30 million? You don't think someone is willing to give up the back-to-back 17?

Speaker 4 Absolutely not because I know you can't keep it. I know you can't keep it.

Speaker 4 Why would I pay hardball?

Speaker 4 I sure am.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Why didn't somebody trade for Cooper Cub? Because they knew the Rams are going to cut it.
Yeah, they want to take it on that salary. Oh, come on, man.

Speaker 4 No, you want me to get, Ocho, you want me to give you a first-round pick and pay him 30 rounds. Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Okay,

Speaker 4 listen, we on the same page. We on the same thing.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure. So, no, I don't have a problem with Josh, but if somebody said, no, I want all the money, I ain't got no problem with them.
Because

Speaker 4 anybody that goes through the fire, you deserve

Speaker 4 whatever you think you can get and whatever that team will pay. But it just goes to show you, but like you said,

Speaker 4 they didn't have to do anything, but it just, hey, he won the MVP. He's been a model citizen for all the indications.
He's been great in the community. I ain't got no problem.

Speaker 4 I have no problem with them paying him. I have no problem with him leaving a little money on the table.
I ain't got no problem with it.

Speaker 4 That's an individual. Man, he could have left something for who?

Speaker 4 You ain't out here taking these licks. You ain't out here.
You ain't training. You ain't away from your family and talking about what I should do.

Speaker 4 Nah, you should keep your mouth closed because I'm going to do what I'm going to do. What's in the best interest of Shannon? But I don't like to.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 fans are confusing and saying, oh, T. Higgins making 26.
Oh, that's enough. That's a lot.
He should be well off with that. I mean,

Speaker 4 they need to stop comparing themselves and put them

Speaker 4 in the shoes of athletes and

Speaker 4 what they

Speaker 4 should or should not get or should or should not meet because you're not out there. You're not going to meetings.

Speaker 4 Not getting.

Speaker 4 But they're looking at,

Speaker 4 but a lot of times fans looking at it from their perspective. And let's just say, let's just say, if I take a fan and I say, okay, you make $150,000.

Speaker 4 Of course, $26 million is a lot of money to you. But if you feel you make, you should make $300,000 and somebody, and somebody, and your boss said, without $150,000, there's plenty to you.

Speaker 4 You're going to look at him sideways.

Speaker 4 You can't, you have to look at it from an athlete's perspective and the prism and the arena that he or she is in. You can't just say, of course, if I'm making $75,000 a year and somebody offered me

Speaker 4 $1 million a year, yes.

Speaker 4 I bet we, oh, Joe, we get there. Yes.

Speaker 4 You talking about a guy that you're talking about a guy that made $5 a day.

Speaker 4 So if I'm making $5 a day and somebody's gonna pay me sixty thousand a year you damn right i'm gonna take it or if i'm making i made one on one summer i made 337

Speaker 4 now you mean to tell me somebody gonna give me two hundred thousand dollars

Speaker 4 so yeah when you look at it in your terms that's an absorbent amount of money but when you look at a guy and he's already making 15 million and he's put up these type of numbers no that's not enough for him based on what he does.

Speaker 4 And he's not going to let

Speaker 4 it like that. The fans don't view it like that.
I wish they were able to separate the two.

Speaker 4 But and I like got a lot of Bengal fans that got on to me

Speaker 4 simply about my issues with T being able to hit the open market because I'm understanding, understanding what T can get and what he's deserving and why fans want him to stay for their own selfish reasons.

Speaker 4 They want to stay for their own selfish reasons, just keeping the band together.

Speaker 4 And I'm looking at, you know, for long, long term, you know, based on what he's been able to do, despite even with injuries that he's had, because I understand how good he is once he hits the court.

Speaker 4 I mean, hit the court. I'm seeing once he hits the field.

Speaker 4 I know it's going to get. So I know he's going to get well, well, north of 30, 32, 33 if he hits the open market.
That's all I'm saying. And people saying, why wouldn't you want him to stay?

Speaker 4 He needs to stay. 26.5 is enough.
I mean, man,

Speaker 4 that's that's not what it's about that's not what it's about listen as i love my bangles live live eat shift sleep die bangles

Speaker 4 but i also understand that he's deserving what he is i understand how this business works you don't take home team discounts on your first deal you don't do no not the first one maybe the second or the third one but not because people look at that hold on man miles done got two deals now he done got two max deals ain't took no discount now if he want to to take a discount on the third one, that's his, that's his prerogative.

Speaker 4 But if he doesn't, that's also his prerogative.

Speaker 4 I don't feel I should be obligated to help a billionaire stay a billionaire.

Speaker 4 Fans don't look at it. Fans like, oh, we pay your salary.
What do you pay that owner? You help that owner become a billionaire, too.

Speaker 4 But you don't look at it like that. Y'all just look at the players.

Speaker 4 Because the likelihood that you see, the greater likelihood that you're going to bump into

Speaker 4 the player in the grocery store, at the car wash, the mall, as opposed to the owner. So you feel a connection to that player.
Like, oh,

Speaker 4 but while y'all talking about y'all play player salary, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 Who y'all think paying for them yachts that these owners that you see are Jerry Jones, that are Jeffrey Lurie, that are Arthur Blank? Who y'all think?

Speaker 4 That continue to show up, concession stands. Oh, who y'all think? Who y'all think playing for that helicopter to land on that that by practice field at Jerry's World?

Speaker 4 Talk to him, Long.

Speaker 4 Talk to him. So y'all ain't got no problem.
Y'all don't have no problem paying for that.

Speaker 4 But when a player asks for...

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 okay.

Speaker 4 I don't think.

Speaker 4 Hey, ain't no thing. Hey, y'all want to pay? Y'all pay.
Hey,

Speaker 4 look, y'all paying, y'all rather pay a billionaire and help him stay there.

Speaker 4 Because guess what?

Speaker 4 Those owners are gonna be owners a lot longer these players gonna be players now you figure it out now you tell me gotta get as much as you can why why hey why the stove is hot what put what NFL player what NFL player has played long as Jerry Jones been the owner

Speaker 4 what player has played long as Mr. Kraft has been the owner I'm curious

Speaker 4 so y'all been paying y'all been paying their salaries and those big homes for those yachts and those mansions but now okay we cool we good on Ojo. We move along.

Speaker 4 Hook in the cook says he will not be getting married until he wins the Super Bowl. I don't think I'm ready to get married anytime soon.
I'm trying to win a Super Bowl, Ojo.

Speaker 4 I damn. What you think, Ocho? I like it.

Speaker 4 I mean, depending on where you are in life, I think that that scenario we talked about night before last and maybe last night, simply about the quarterbacks and how things come into fruition.

Speaker 4 how life changes for the better when you get married, when you have that structure and discipline on your hip, a man that finds a wife wife find it a good thing for the quarterback situation for some reason like life it just everything falls in falls in order you know it's like it's like a domino effect the receiving

Speaker 4 i'm not sure it affects you in either way so i understand putting a cooler focus to want to focus on winning a championship which he has a good chance of doing especially with the addition of my guy the greatest rock runner of all time outside of myself and devontae adams matthew stafford at the helm you know mr gunslinger himself he has a good chance to do that um

Speaker 4 So I get. And you see the quarterback, they get to know Joe.
You see Josh Allen got engaged. Dak Prescott got engaged.
Jalen Hurts got engaged. Patrick Mahomes got married early.
I mean, you look at,

Speaker 4 I don't think, I don't think Joe is engaged or anything. I don't know if they're going to be able to do that.
I got another scenario for you.

Speaker 4 I don't even think

Speaker 4 Dak Prescott had gotten paid yet.

Speaker 4 Dak Prescott gets engaged or gets married, something that sort. And all of a sudden, boom, 60 million just came out of nowhere.
I'm like, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 Oh, that would have taken.

Speaker 4 Hey, I'm finna go. Hey, I'm finna grab, go grind somebody, dog.

Speaker 4 L Joe, they give out a quarter bill. Listen, it's something about it.

Speaker 4 Now, listen to me. I have, I,

Speaker 4 you, I told you, I've been trying to, I'm trying to get you on the same page for a very long time.

Speaker 4 You got to pull the trigger. I'm telling you, man.
Listen, 20, listen, I got, it's 2025, right?

Speaker 4 I'm going to take this year. I'm gonna take this year.
I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna work.
I'm gonna grind. I'm gonna have some.

Speaker 4 No, I'm not gonna, I ain't gonna have no fun. I'm gonna grind the top of 2026.
I'm going into 2026

Speaker 4 with a ring on my finger. I'm getting married.
I ain't got, I ain't got, I ain't got time to play. I ain't got time to play.
Life is short. I'm on the back half now.
I ain't got that.

Speaker 4 I ain't got that many more good years left in me. You hear me?

Speaker 4 I ain't got

Speaker 4 all right. I ain't got

Speaker 4 too many more. I'm talking about good years.
I'm talking about good years.

Speaker 4 Listen, my 20s, my 30s, I'm finna be 50.

Speaker 4 I ain't got time to be playing.

Speaker 4 What we talking about?

Speaker 4 Think about it. What we talking about? Like, really think about where we are in life.
Seriously. We done played around in our 20s having fun.
We done played around in our 30s having fun.

Speaker 4 We done played around in our 40s.

Speaker 4 I'm finna be 50. What we doing, baby? I'm finna get married.
I ain't got time for this shit. Excuse me, I ain't mean to curtail.
I've been doing real good.

Speaker 4 Oh, y'all talk to me.

Speaker 4 You remember the song? Come on, don't make me cry now.

Speaker 4 Gee, isn't it funny? How time just slips on away.

Speaker 4 I told you, I don't measure my life in years, I measure my life.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I'm constantly thinking,

Speaker 4 I'm waiting on my blood work to come back so I can see what my, is everything okay, my physical

Speaker 4 based on my family history, probably somewhere between

Speaker 4 high-end, probably 20 summers, based on my family history, mom, dad, family history, so forth and so on.

Speaker 4 You're right, Joe.

Speaker 4 Come on,

Speaker 4 man, come on, man.

Speaker 4 That's what I was talking about, FFC. That's growth right there.

Speaker 4 That's growth.

Speaker 4 It's time to get serious.

Speaker 4 I'm with you when you're right now. Come on, take your time.

Speaker 4 It's just

Speaker 4 all this, you know,

Speaker 4 you win awards,

Speaker 4 you've lived your dream, you've done a great job trying to raise kids.

Speaker 4 And there are times I think, like, damn,

Speaker 4 everything that I've accomplished, take the football aside. That's fun.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 who are you doing it for? Why are you doing it? And don't you want somebody to share that ride with? Come on, man.

Speaker 4 I'm sure driving cross country is fun,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 I think it's better if you drive across country with Louise. Listen, without no Thelma, there was no Louise.

Speaker 4 What would be the point of Thelma if there's no Louise?

Speaker 4 You got Clyde, but who the hell was Clyde without Bonnie?

Speaker 4 Huh?

Speaker 4 Without Weezy,

Speaker 4 there's no George.

Speaker 4 If it wasn't for Tom, who the hell would chase Jerry?

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 we need a party. We need a combo.
Somebody, man, some of the greatest stories in life is always true.

Speaker 4 It always has been.

Speaker 4 But you know,

Speaker 4 you feeling good in your 20s? Oh, I just ain't worried about it. I'm going to find me somebody.
You feeling good in your 30s?

Speaker 4 Oh, man, don't worry about it. I'm going to run through this little decade of 30s.
Don't worry about it. Man, I done ran through my 40s.
Oh, man, what I'm doing? I'm looking at my watch.

Speaker 4 Man, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 I'm on the back end now. I'm on the back end.
I done climbed the mountain and I'm scaling over the mountain now to go downhill.

Speaker 4 Man, what we talking about? And the time went by so fast.

Speaker 4 It did, bro. It's absolutely.

Speaker 4 And it just dawned on me, like, not too long ago, man, what the am I doing?

Speaker 4 Like I'm just acting like I can't get this time back. I'm wasting.

Speaker 4 So it make it easy for me to move a certain way based on.

Speaker 4 I can't get this back,

Speaker 4 I can't.

Speaker 4 Now, if I was in my 20s, I understand. Okay, I could play a little longer, you know.
I'm a 30, you know, I could play, you know, I still got time, man.

Speaker 4 Boy,

Speaker 4 I'm thinking about one thing about that time. You can't get it back, and it does not stop.

Speaker 4 It do not stop,

Speaker 4 man. Please, Pocho gives this list of best wide receiver duos.

Speaker 4 Chad Johnson, he got number number one, Chase Higgins, number two, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, number three, Jeddah and Addison, number four, Evans and Godwin, five, Amon Ross, St.

Speaker 4 Brown, J-Mo, number six, Hill Waddle, number seven,

Speaker 4 Lunt Atlantis, Atlantis, Drake, London, and Mooney, and the rest haven't played as a unit yet. Yeah.
Let me go to that. All right.
I had to pull that.

Speaker 4 I had to stand up for this too, because you know, I got excited about this one. Obviously,

Speaker 4 I'm not being biased. I actually have chasing higgins first four reason hell i played for the goddamn bangles and they are phenomenal

Speaker 4 listen

Speaker 4 aj brown and devontae smith they just won the super bowl yes now again they do they

Speaker 4 oh my god how do i say this i i and i don't mean to be rude i don't mean to be rude they don't throw the ball as much over in philly as opposed to the bangles you know you you know you know what i mean but aj brown and devontae smith are one hell of a duel down there in philly jeddas and goddamn Jordan Addison, boy, they had a hell of a season, regardless of who the quarterback is.

Speaker 4 Sam Donnell comes in there. JJ McCarthy gets hurt.
They do what they do best. Phenomenal duo.
Evans and Godlin. What more can I say? They did it with Tom Brady and they did it with Bacon Mayfield.

Speaker 4 And they're going to do it again this year.

Speaker 4 Amon Ross A. Brown and J-Mo.

Speaker 4 Nasty work. Nasty, nasty work.
Now, the only reason I have Tyreek Hill and Waddle so low, and in the quotations, I got quarterback injury.

Speaker 4 Obviously, Tua got hurt, and everybody's numbers were affected by that. Listen, I got London and Mooney, Mooney at seven,

Speaker 4 yeah,

Speaker 4 Darn Mooney, the rest, the rest of them, they haven't played together. I just look good because of the names that play together.

Speaker 4 You're looking at DK and George Pickens, you looking at Devontae Adams and Puka Nakur. Yeah, I mean, listen, the names are good.

Speaker 4 They just haven't played together, so I need, I didn't need to be able to do it. You need to say something.
I'm just curious, Chad. You like my list? Would you change it?

Speaker 4 I mean, the order to me, I think it's good

Speaker 4 the way I have it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, look, I think the thing, first of all,

Speaker 4 I'm not so sure I change anything, OJo. I have Chase and Higgins too, because Chase is the best receiver in football.

Speaker 4 Now, some people might say, I don't know, it might be Jeddah, but I think Chase right now is the number one. Right.
So I don't think anybody's going to say AJ is better than him or Mike Evans St.

Speaker 4 Brown, any of those guys. I think Chase, I mean, the Triple Crown validates what we know.
Right, right. And then Higgins.
So, okay,

Speaker 4 Higgins, Devontae is close.

Speaker 4 But I think because Chase is number one,

Speaker 4 I like that group. I like AJ and Smitty.

Speaker 4 Me, sometimes

Speaker 4 I get a little perplexed and I'm like, damn, AJ, like, he won the Super Bowl, but he's like complaining about catches. but I get it but then again I don't

Speaker 4 at this point in time Ojo I won not that not now after I won the Super Bowl it's all about celebration right it's all about celebration me I have this conversation behind closed doors with Jalen with a

Speaker 4 Jalen Hurts yeah the new OC Siriani

Speaker 4 I mean, Ojo, he just like, that's just me. Yeah, you know what I don't like, Unc? This is the business side side of things.

Speaker 4 You talk about him not having the production right or him not getting the catches or him not having the yards that he should because you know that you know how they gonna play with him later?

Speaker 4 You know what they're gonna do to him? Right. They're gonna come talk to him, right? They're gonna say, you know what?

Speaker 4 Maybe a year or two from now, now based on your salary and what you're making and the numbers you're putting up, it really ain't making no sense paying you this kind of money when your production ain't what it should be.

Speaker 4 Look at your numbers. So they use it against him.
So I understand what he's doing and why he wants to argue the fact. Well, I want the catches.

Speaker 4 I need the catches so the production matches what my salary is. Right.
So the minute your production don't match what your salary is, what's the first thing you want to do?

Speaker 4 They either want to let you go or they want you to take a pay cut. Oh, Joe.
But you know, when you go into Jalen Hurst, you're not going to have the numbers

Speaker 4 that Chase has. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 They got Saquon back there. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm just saying. It's different.

Speaker 4 Oh, Cho, what receiver you know, what receiver you know got a 2,000-yard rusher and they got a 100-catch receiver and a 1,500-yard receiver with 15 touchdowns when you got a 2,000.

Speaker 4 Do you know how many carries you got to get for 2,000 yards? Listen, I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you write.

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Speaker 4 Don't you check this out? Pre-agent quarterback Mac Jones is signing with the 49ers a two-point deal, $7 million with $5 million guaranteed.

Speaker 4 Jones wanted the opportunity to work with 49ers head coach, Kyle Shanahan. Will Kyle Shanahan be able to, yes,

Speaker 4 revive

Speaker 4 Mac Jones' career? Yes. Because for all intents and purposes, Ocho, we thought that's where he was going

Speaker 4 before they traded up to take Trey Lance. I thought that would have been perfect.

Speaker 4 You mean to tell me? I believe he's just as athletic or I'm just as strong as Bron Purdy. Hold on.

Speaker 4 Because think about if you took Mac Jones and where you were, you'd have kept all those first-round picks. You wouldn't have had to give up all of that.

Speaker 4 But hey, I do think, I do think, because I think Mac Jones was really good in his rookie season when he had an offensive hit, when he had an offensive coordinator,

Speaker 4 Josh McDaniel, in his ear.

Speaker 4 Some reason,

Speaker 4 for some unknown reason to me. Like, oh, you know what? I think we're going to put two guys in his ear that's never called an offensive player in their life.
I think that'll work out okay, Ocho.

Speaker 4 And it was terrible. It didn't.
It didn't. But hold on, I got a question.

Speaker 4 Something you just said when you said about him going to the 49ers about reviving something about him playing the position of the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Now, if I'm not mistaken, they do have Brock Purdy, Brock Purdy, who commands a $35, $40 million salary coming up soon, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 4 So exactly what part of reviving his quarterback career is Shannon Hane going to do? He's going to get an opportunity to see how you do things. And guess what?

Speaker 4 Maybe Brock Purdy say he don't want to play well he don't want that

Speaker 4 because sometimes i gotta have i gotta get leverage on you oh cho i gotta get leverage

Speaker 4 nah you know ain't no leverage yeah not with that

Speaker 4 not not when you command not when you commit when you're getting ready to make that kind of money ain't no leverage guess what brett barb didn't think they had no leverage either did he

Speaker 4 aaron rogers didn't think no had no right they didn't have they didn't have no leverage either did they

Speaker 4 now hold on now you know how

Speaker 4 you know how these teams different type of scenarios

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 you know how these teams work. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know.
I know.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, they'll eat that money like, oh, Joe, they'll dead money.

Speaker 4 Think about the money that the Broncos ate. They paid Russell Wilson that 40 million.
Right.

Speaker 4 Can I ask you a question? Yes.

Speaker 4 We saw a small sample drives of Mac. We saw a small sample size of Mac Jones, right? Yes.
With the Patriots. Yes.

Speaker 4 We saw a small sample size of mac jones where was he last year jacksonville at jacksonville

Speaker 4 so all of a sudden just just god

Speaker 4 for some reason that he might be the answer if things don't work out with breck with brock purdy yes okay i'm just okay i'm with you i i like i like i like how i like how you but i but i but what i like if you think about it ojo if you look at these guys that's had resurgence look at a sam darno look at geno smith it was the talent around them around him that made young

Speaker 4 all of a sudden, he got DK. He had Lockett.
He had Smith and Jigba. You look at Sam Darnold.
He had Addison. He had Hawkinson.
He had Jeddah. He had Jones in the backfield.

Speaker 4 So now, if I put complimentary pieces around him, I'm not saying sometimes

Speaker 4 I got to have an airboat. Right.

Speaker 4 I don't need that much water in order to get to where I need to get to, OJ. Come on, man.
Now, if I'm on a pontoon, I need a lot of water because I can't hear me. I need some buoyancy.

Speaker 4 So I'm not saying that he's a guy that could elevate

Speaker 4 i'm saying maybe he needs a situation where guys can have need to elevate him right um

Speaker 4 because if you look at him when he was at alabama when he had waddle when he had devante

Speaker 4 when he had mechie when he had najee in the backfield how did he look old wait that's it but wait wait wait wait let's think about what they got over there and it was the 49ers now they don't have nothing like what you just named now they have some very very very good players good play yeah

Speaker 4 brandon jennings the real deal no you mean iuk

Speaker 4 no i said no brandon jennis brandon jennings for where

Speaker 4 and uh sam brand 49ers brandon jennings

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 brandon jennings what he what position he play with yo receivable Jawan Jennings. Oh, Jawan Jennings.
I'm tripping. You got Brandon Jennings.
The basketball player?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm talking about Jawan Gene, Juwan Jenny.

Speaker 4 Who was talking about Brandon Jennis earlier?

Speaker 4 P, Master P. They still got, yeah, Juwan Jennis, nice.
Purcell came on, you know, last. Now, are you coming off of coming off an injury? Yeah.

Speaker 4 They still got a kiddo. Oh, see back coming back to see how C back can hold up.
I mean, listen,

Speaker 4 I think they're going to be all right.

Speaker 4 They still need that boy. Yeah.
You know, you're not understanding what I mean. They still need

Speaker 4 that man listen

Speaker 4 that boy i i i i love juwan jennings i love you know what they have they still need that that that doll like like masterpiece said they still need that dog and i'm i'm talking about from a receiver standpoint can do can do it all oh joe check this out daniel jones signed with the colts reports sound like they may be a quarterback competition between him and anthony richards and please oh joe tell me the time you ever seen somebody sign a backup for 14 million dollars

Speaker 4 If they've signed a receiver, you making $5 million, they paid the wide receiver that they brought in $17 million. What you tell me what you thinking? Yeah, I know what it is.

Speaker 4 It's funny how they play that game, huh?

Speaker 4 It's funny. It's funny how they play the game.

Speaker 4 What you mean, what game they playing? What you paying them? You saw what it was when he was in New York, right?

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 4 Okay, so you bring him in for a quarterback competition for what? But maybe it's a good thing, huh? Maybe this is a good thing for Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 You mean you tell me, you mean to tell me you finna bring somebody in to beat me out my spot after you already saw what he was able to do?

Speaker 4 Don't get me started. Oh, Joe.
I think it's a good thing for Anthony Richardson. Maybe this will propel him.
Not that he needs motivation anyway. He doesn't need no motivation.

Speaker 4 Not at the quarterback position, you don't. But this should get you in line real quick because it sends the message.

Speaker 4 We don't believe in you. We don't think you're the long-term answer for our team.
They benched his ass last year, that should have been a clear message right there.

Speaker 4 I mean, but you know, they benched him for a specific reason. We know we need to.
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 If Tom Brady came out, if Patrick Mahomes came out of the game, they getting benched next game.

Speaker 4 Absolutely not. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Tell me the backup player. Tell me the backup player in the NFL that's making 14 million.
Any position, tell me the backup player that's making $14 million.

Speaker 4 It probably ain't none, huh? Exactly. So, what'd that tell you? Yeah, and that's that's that's crazy how they play.
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Daniel Jones got some

Speaker 4 video or somebody got some dirt or somebody on somebody or something.

Speaker 4 He might have a tape of somebody with a goat. Ain't no telling.
Hey, what, 14?

Speaker 4 What, one year or two years?

Speaker 4 One year.

Speaker 4 Golly.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yeah,

Speaker 4 he knows something.

Speaker 4 He probably knows where they got Jimmy Hoff at, boy.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 4 So it's, you're right. Ocho, me,

Speaker 4 this is a clear indication. I don't know when the coaches talk or when the organization talk, if Anthony Richardson was listening, they got his undivided attention now.

Speaker 4 They got his undivided attention, Ocho. Undivided.
Oh, yo.

Speaker 4 Rogers was released by the Jets today. Negotiations are ongoing between the Steelers and Rogers.
Here's what Mike Florio is reporting. The ball is reportedly in Aaron Rodgers court.

Speaker 4 The Steelers are simply waiting for a decision from Rogers.

Speaker 4 Regardless, it's tempting to think that Rogers, who not long ago was potentially out of auctions, has found a way to make it all about himself again. In just

Speaker 4 two weeks, Rogers has gone from the guy who has a reach out to the Giants to a guy who has options.

Speaker 4 Whether he's doing it on purpose or just doing what he does, he's become the center of the NFL's attention for maybe one last time. We're focused on him.
We're talking about him. We're not.

Speaker 4 As long as the Steelers don't move on to another veteran quarterback, he can take his time. At some point,

Speaker 4 however, they'll need an answer. And when he gives them one, he'll likely complain about all the attention that he's handling of the situation naturally generated.

Speaker 4 Look, Ocho, you and I weren't talking about it. No,

Speaker 4 we were talking about the people that had gotten signed. Right.

Speaker 4 We talked about like it was a possibility that he was going to get released. They made a sitting like, look, this is what we want you to do.

Speaker 4 The judge said they released a statement, said, no, we're moving on. They thanked him for the two years that he was there, blah, blah, blah.
But

Speaker 4 after today,

Speaker 4 if he ain't signed, ain't no more words talk. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Not for me. Now, maybe you want to bring up a

Speaker 4 oh, let's let's talk about this right here. Okay, fine.
But until he signs,

Speaker 4 I don't really know about it.

Speaker 4 There really isn't Ocho. Right.
And I have a question. Yes, sir.
What other veteran quarterbacks are out there right now outside of Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson. Okay, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 To go back, I think Russell Wilson is visiting the New York Giants and the Cleveland Browns, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 Outside of Russell Wilson, who else is out there?

Speaker 4 Or is that it?

Speaker 4 I think that's pretty much it, Ocho. Yeah, so I mean,

Speaker 4 cousins, it seems like cousins could be available via trade, but nobody ain't trading because he got that money guaranteed.

Speaker 4 Now, y'all release him, y'all pay that money, and then we'll pick him up at minimum. Ah, I see, I got you.
But

Speaker 4 I ain't trying to take on somebody that got guaranteed money. I ain't trying to take, I ain't trying to pay that.
Yeah. Y'all, hey,

Speaker 4 I'm not finna bail you guys out for your bad decision. You made that decision.
And I told you, Ocho, last year. I said, Ocho, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 I said, at his his absolute best, he's got two years. I said, oh, Joe, if you sign him and he got one, you stuck.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You stuck like with a bad song on an elevator. And damn, you got to go to the top and just stop it at every floor in between.

Speaker 4 I chat, y'all know I said, I said, oh, Joe. I said, I get, I get what you're saying, Ocho.
It's tuned or the young guy comes along. I said, but Ocho,

Speaker 4 paid this kind of money and could potentially only be a one-year deal. You got 100 million fully guaranteed on $180 million

Speaker 4 contract.

Speaker 4 And lo and behold, he really didn't make it through the whole year. Right.

Speaker 4 I just, I just, you know, I'm like, man. That's crazy.
But listen, Aaron Rodgers is in a good place.

Speaker 4 He's in a good place. Oh, Jameis Whistles is available also.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 I can see that. I can see the move.
I can see that move. I can see that.
What about Flacco? Isn't Flacco available too?

Speaker 4 Flacco. I think Flacco's available too.
Because

Speaker 4 Flacco was in Indy last year. And if he was still there, there would be no need to sign Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 So the very fact that they signed Daniel Jones probably lets me give me the indication that Flacco is also a free agent. Could Flacco circle back and be in Cleveland? Sure.

Speaker 4 I like that.

Speaker 4 Could he be a play? Could he be a play in

Speaker 4 the Giants?

Speaker 4 That's crazy, man. Now that I think about it, I'm trying to figure out

Speaker 4 who fits what and who fits where.

Speaker 4 But listen,

Speaker 4 Garner Minchieu just got released also. Yep.

Speaker 4 Man, listen, with DK and with DK and Pickens, well, you could get,

Speaker 4 you get a gunslinger now. Well,

Speaker 4 you can make some magic, boy.

Speaker 4 And they let Najee Harris go.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think he signed with the Chargers. Okay, yeah, he did go with the Chargers.
Hey, Mike Williams just signed back with the Chargers too on a one-year.

Speaker 4 did he yeah he went back yeah he went okay but if you think about it if you go back and look at care uh uh uh uh pittsburgh that last first rounder they haven't gotten a second contract

Speaker 4 all the first rounders they declined the fifth-year option

Speaker 4 i think it's like the last four

Speaker 4 i i saw i saw this in the paper today

Speaker 4 ain't paying out huh uh i think bush you remember Bush, the linebacker, they got fake from Michigan?

Speaker 4 His dad played at Florida State? Devin, not Devin, Devin Bush. Yeah.
Yeah. No?

Speaker 4 I think that might have been his dad. That might have been him, though.

Speaker 4 But, you know,

Speaker 4 they declined his fifth year option.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 yes, Ash, I read the newspaper today.

Speaker 4 I got the USA Today

Speaker 4 at the hotel. I got the USA Today at the hotel today.
So that's what George said the same thing. Oh, you read newspapers?

Speaker 4 I'm like, well, well damn you make it seem like i can't read or something i can look at the pictures and fool them

Speaker 4 uh

Speaker 4 but yeah it was uh

Speaker 4 it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see i'm ready to see what he's saying i'm ready to see at this this uh uh

Speaker 4 with this uh legal hampering period we kind of got an indication before because you know what i'm saying such and such going on but now we kind of know so now now we just you you shift your focus like okay

Speaker 4 draft who's going where what's going to be done are there going to be any more moves if there are there any more moves to be made yeah i'm excited i'm excited for that draft what you what you got what you got one two and three what you think

Speaker 4 honestly ocho this is might be the

Speaker 4 I have no idea. I mean, people say Abdul Carter.
People say Cam.

Speaker 4 The only, I mean,

Speaker 4 I mean, people are kind of like, cool. I I mean, now

Speaker 4 I see reports,

Speaker 4 Shadur might slide out of the top 10. He might slide

Speaker 4 way down. He might even slide out of the first mile.
I'm like, well, damn, I just don't, what I don't understand, Ocho, how can a guy move up or down and a guy ain't played football in three months?

Speaker 4 It's all on team needs. And then the needs of the team that are picking in the first five, they need a quarterback.

Speaker 4 There's more than one, there are more than three teams in the first five or six picks that need quarterbacks. They're not going to play that game just out of spite.

Speaker 4 Just out of spite. No, they're not going to play that game.

Speaker 4 The volume.

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