1 | Give Me Your F**kin Money

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Speaker 1 Chicago is

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Speaker 1 Chicago is

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Speaker 2 It's overflowing with sunlit cityscapes and joyful, smiling faces of young people, families, and tourists, all locked in a state of perpetual eight millimeter textured happiness and wonder of this city of broad shoulders, this great city by the lake.

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Speaker 2 It really does look like a wonderful place to live. A place with endless possibilities.
Where anybody, no matter who you are or where you came from, can get a fair shot at the brass ring.

Speaker 1 Chicago is something you've just got to see for yourself.

Speaker 2 But only a few miles from the bright lights of Michigan Avenue is a different stretch of road. A dark corner of the windy city you won't see in any board of tourism commercial.

Speaker 2 It's a place where the cops are just as crooked as the criminals, where drugs and prostitution run rampant, and where a young mafia hitman, they call the kid, is parked outside of a dark, dilapidated apartment building, waiting for just the right moment to make his next move.

Speaker 1 It's about 9 p.m. at night.
I'm in an apartment complex. in a neighborhood that I really don't know very well.

Speaker 1 And I'm listening to my song, the song that I always play before I do something sketchy like this and that's Sympathy for the Devil.

Speaker 1 It just does something to me. I don't know what it does.
It's just part of my routine.

Speaker 1 I sit in my car and I do what I always do.

Speaker 5 I breathe.

Speaker 1 I make myself aware. I heighten my senses, my sight, my smell,

Speaker 1 my hearing.

Speaker 1 I don't know how I do it, but I do it.

Speaker 1 As I'm listening to the music, I feel my senses start to kick in.

Speaker 1 As they kick in, the moment arises. The moment always hits me.
I don't know how it hits me, but I know when I'm ready for the moment.

Speaker 1 Out of my car,

Speaker 1 walk up to the apartment complex.

Speaker 1 Ring the buzzer.

Speaker 1 This asshole comes to the buzzer, announces his name. I said, this is Ken.
I'm coming up for the Coke.

Speaker 1 He says, fine, come on up.

Speaker 1 Buzzer hits.

Speaker 1 I walk up the stairs.

Speaker 1 I reach my right hand behind my belt on my back.

Speaker 1 Knock on the door with my left hand. As the door door opens up I pull my arm out with my 22 and I put it right in his forehead back it up.
I tell him. He backs it up.
His eyes are as big as saucers

Speaker 1 I Want to say his name dude, but I can't will you will you edit his name out of here

Speaker 1 Skate

Speaker 1 Back it up to the bathroom. He didn't move fast enough and I wanted him to know I meant fucking business here.
So I beat him.

Speaker 1 I hit him twice right cheek left cheek backed off put the gun back up to his forehead backed him up into the bathroom got to the bathroom

Speaker 1 get on your knees

Speaker 1 he wouldn't get on his knees fast enough so i dropped him with my left foot i got him right behind his right knee that dropped him to his knees pushed him down towards the toilet

Speaker 1 grabbed the cuffs that were in my left rear pocket and cuffed him right behind the base of the toilet. There he sat.

Speaker 1 I can't remember exactly what I said to him,

Speaker 1 but I was dead serious what I said, but I really can't remember.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I waited

Speaker 1 like I was asked to do.

Speaker 1 Knock at the door comes and three of my boys come in.

Speaker 1 Showed them to the bathroom. I backed out because it wasn't my hit.
It was just my setup.

Speaker 2 It wasn't my hit.

Speaker 1 Went back into the living room, sat and waited. Heard some commotion, a muffled gunshot.

Speaker 1 I know that's the end of the story. The boys walk out.
Where's the dope, Ken?

Speaker 1 Ransacked his bedroom, found the dope. Got about three or four ounces of what was called at the time.

Speaker 1 It was pink cocaine.

Speaker 2 What the hell they call it back then?

Speaker 1 Peruvian. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Anyway, it was Coke.

Speaker 1 All right, because that's what everybody was doing back then. Uncuffed him,

Speaker 1 brought him to the living room, started tearing up the carpet inside the living room, wrapped him up in there, and left him until tomorrow.

Speaker 1 What normally happens is, or what was already set up was not by me, but it was already set up to have a carpeting company come in the next day, put in a new carpet, take him out, put in new carpeting, lay it, and then me leave.

Speaker 1 Spent the night.

Speaker 1 Waited for the carpeting people in the morning. They arrived about nine o'clock.
They took him out, wrapped up in the the carpet, brought up a whole new carpeting and padding, laid that down.

Speaker 1 I left the door unlocked, and I left.

Speaker 1 That was the end of him.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Story's over.

Speaker 2 Holy shit.

Speaker 2 I'm your host, Kyle Tequila. Welcome to Crook County.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Crook County. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
It's a den of thieves.

Speaker 2 Dad was a fucking crazy bastard.

Speaker 8 We don't know who he is, really. People are dying.
Is he doing this every night?

Speaker 1 What about retribution from could it be the mob?

Speaker 2 Could it be police?

Speaker 6 What's the worry there?

Speaker 1 I've done criminal defense now for almost 37 years.

Speaker 1 It takes one guy out there who's in his late 60s to say, who's that fucking asshole, Kyle, who thinks he can just get on a goddamn microphone on a podcast and start publicizing this shit like i started having flashbacks about his legs being broken when he went out to check them out and i was like holy shit he changed his address to ours now these people can like find him at our address i don't give a about cat he did what he did and if he's gotta pay he's gotta pay It destroyed our life.

Speaker 1 It destroyed our marriage. It destroyed my kids.
It really destroyed everything. Just when I think I'm getting out of this shit, I'm right fucking back in it.
It's the double.

Speaker 1 It's following me wherever the fuck I go. I can't shake this son of a bitch.
He won't fucking leave me alone.

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Speaker 2 Episode one:

Speaker 2 Give me your fucking money.

Speaker 1 You're not going to put my voice on anything, are you?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell the story? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Alright.

Speaker 2 I'm interviewing Kenny, the kid, for the first time.

Speaker 2 He's a big man

Speaker 2 in his mid-60s, with a full head of jet black hair, combed and styled, with only a few strands of gray. Wearing a clean white t-shirt and reading glasses with thick black frames.

Speaker 2 He's handsome in a run-down sort of way.

Speaker 2 He kind of reminds me of a down-on-his-luck, Clark Kent.

Speaker 2 You know, Superman, but fat.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, I'm not good at this, man.

Speaker 1 Just whenever you feel like it, just start talking about your brain go. But what am I? Okay.

Speaker 2 He's not used to having a microphone in his face and seems to be having a little trouble getting comfortable with me.

Speaker 1 I know, I'm very confused on this, Kyle, and I'm just going to talk, okay?

Speaker 1 I'm just going to talk. I really don't.

Speaker 1 I really kind of don't understand what's going on.

Speaker 2 It goes on like this for a while.

Speaker 2 But eventually he starts talking.

Speaker 1 This

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 a story. Well, story.
It's not a story.

Speaker 1 This is my story.

Speaker 1 Basically,

Speaker 1 the experiences I've had, most of them not by choice, that just ended up like I never thought i would end up i'm i'm i'm surprised i'm sitting here you know i i technically i shouldn't be sitting here you know historically

Speaker 1 people don't make it they just simply don't make it but i think i was low level enough and um i didn't want to make it a career i i you know i want i i didn't want i didn't do the things that the other people did trying to move up in the outfit, you know, trying to get their own crews, trying to make more money.

Speaker 1 I did fly under the radar and I really didn't want to know what the hell was going on where I became a trusted member. You know, we're not going to worry about Kenny.
You know, Kenny does his job.

Speaker 1 He keeps his fucking mouth shut. He doesn't steal any money.
He doesn't do fucking drugs while he's working. He's not running whores on the side, our whores on the side.

Speaker 1 He does what he's supposed to do and he goes home.

Speaker 2 Kenny spent over 20 years working deep inside the legendary Chicago Mafia, also known as the Southside Gang, or simply the Outfit, which rose to power in the 1920s during Prohibition under Johnny Torreo and Al Capone.

Speaker 2 They were powerful, ruthless, and violent, with tentacles spreading all the way to Florida and California, a vast criminal empire spanning nearly 100 years, making its fortune off bootleg liquor, illegal gambling, prostitution, extortion, political corruption, labor racketeering, loan sharking, and murder for hire.

Speaker 2 Since the days of Capone, the Outfit has been led by a who's who of powerful bosses like Frank the Enforcer, Nidhi, Paul the Waiter, Rika, Anthony Big Tuna Ocardo, and Salvatore Momo Giancano.

Speaker 2 When Kenny was there in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s, the bosses were Joseph Joey Dove Zayuba, Sam Black Sam Carlisi, and John Nonos DeFranzo.

Speaker 2 It was a period of great prosperity, and they were stronger than ever.

Speaker 1 Cook County and the Chicago area, okay, Chicago is actually in Cook County and we worked in the unincorporated areas because the unincorporated areas are, you know, we owned, you know, we owned the judges, we owned the fucking cops, you know, we owned them, you know, so we can work freely, all right?

Speaker 1 And what did you do? I was a low-level, I ran whorehouses and I did,

Speaker 1 and I did hits. You know, I was just a low-level guy.
And my crew,

Speaker 1 the money that we made in our crew, worked its way up the ladder to the big bosses. You know, you're in the fucking trenches, man.

Speaker 1 This is low-level, in the streets, in the dirt, in your face, the backbone of the fucking outfit. That's where the money came from.
It came from us, and we pushed it up. All right?

Speaker 1 We're not the fucking

Speaker 1 captain sitting back while his troops are in the fucking trenches fighting it out fucking hand to hand knife to knife all right we are the guys in the fucking trenches hand to hand knife to knife all right that's where we are that's how down that's how far down the ladder we were all right we're fucking clipping people and running fucking whores

Speaker 2 he takes a long pause and seems to be deep in some old memory

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i just don't want to glorify this because there's nothing there's just no glory here i mean i i i try to forget these stories, and I've been trying to forget these stories for years and years and years.

Speaker 1 You know, my goal wasn't to run whorehouses and fucking kill, you know, people. You know, I was doing what I had to do to

Speaker 1 have a normal life and raise a normal family. Okay, that's all I was doing.
I didn't have an education, I didn't have the opportunity for an education. I didn't go to college.

Speaker 1 I barely got out of fucking high school. You know, I just survival mode.
That's all. Just really that simple.
And

Speaker 1 I survived.

Speaker 2 Look, I don't know much about the mafia. I mean, I guess I know as much as anybody who's seen a movie or TV show about it.

Speaker 2 But sitting here with him, listening to him talk, watching him remember these terrible things, I feel confused. I just don't see what you would expect to see from someone who's had a life like this.

Speaker 2 You know, a hardened criminal with bodies under his belt. Some Some kind of monster.

Speaker 2 Instead, I see a tired, sad man, genuinely hurt that this was his life.

Speaker 2 I have to know, how does someone like that get wrapped up in all this?

Speaker 16 I

Speaker 1 got recruited into the mob when I was 17 years old and

Speaker 1 completely unbeknownst to me. It was the last thing on my mind.
And

Speaker 1 my parents got divorced.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm not going to go into the fucking woe with me. You know, I had a rough childhood bullshit.
But I got tossed out. My parents got divorced.
I wasn't happy about it.

Speaker 1 I got tossed out of my house at gunpoint

Speaker 1 by my mother. Go figure.
So, I mean, that'll give you an idea of what kind of family. You know, I grew up in.
God rest their souls. Okay.
All right. I love my mother dearly.

Speaker 1 And I love my father dearly, who's dead, but, you know, they just did the best they could with what they had and the culture that they grew up in, okay?

Speaker 1 So I get tossed out. 16 years old, I'm living in the backseat of my fucking 68 Camaro for about three or four months.

Speaker 1 I need money, all right?

Speaker 1 I know this fucking clown that's dealing dope, dealing fucking Mexican dirtweed, because back then it was, I don't know, the shit they got now is insane, but it was just straight Mexican dirtweed back then.

Speaker 1 And he was, I think you think he had placidyls and qualus. So placidyls, quailued, cash, and Mexican fucking dirtweed.

Speaker 1 So, and I knew we hung out at the fucking Kmart. So, you know, I watched him for a while.
I kind of figured out his pattern, you know.

Speaker 1 And I don't know why I did it, just made sense to me to just kind of sit back, scope him for a while. So, when I hit him, it would be the best time or the best situation.

Speaker 1 Whatever, anyway, came up on him and robbed his fucking ass.

Speaker 1 I had a fucking pencil and

Speaker 1 came up kind of from the side. I was came because kind of walked on bottom on an angle.

Speaker 1 I was on the left side and came close enough where I didn't seem to be, where it wasn't threatening, but close enough where I could pivot and put the pencil in his back.

Speaker 1 He had a jacket on, so I used the rubber, you know, you know, the eraser part.

Speaker 1 And believe it or not, if you stick that thing in there hard enough, you know, just you know, have somebody do that to you when you're not expecting it.

Speaker 1 And, you know, being told that I need your cash and I need your dope and I need it right now. All right.
And I got a fucking knife stuck in your back.

Speaker 1 Reach into your pockets with your left hand and hand me back that shit.

Speaker 1 So I get the dope, I get the money, push him forward, tell him not to fucking turn around, and we're on our way. He goes off in a sprint, I go off, do a round, and come back to my car.

Speaker 1 I never really saw him except for two days later

Speaker 1 when I did see him. But I saw him with someone else

Speaker 1 and two other guys off in the background.

Speaker 1 So these two come up on me. I'm sitting down and I'm going, I'm thinking to myself, ah, fuck.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 And I'm completely unprepared. Completely.

Speaker 1 Came up on me and the bigger guy goes, the older guy goes, is that him?

Speaker 1 And the kid goes, yeah, that's him. That's the guy that robbed me.
Uncle.

Speaker 1 He ran a fucking crew. He's a mob dude, all right.
You know, we're talking syndicate here, outfit guy, all right.

Speaker 1 So he tells me, He goes,

Speaker 1 Are you looking for a job?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm looking for a job. I'm fucking starving here.

Speaker 1 That's how I got in the fucking outfit.

Speaker 1 So I got it. He was impressed.

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Speaker 2 A rough childhood. A tumultuous marriage.
A mother pulling a gun on her own son.

Speaker 2 Homelessness. Desperation.

Speaker 2 All leading to one fateful moment.

Speaker 2 A bad decision that would define a young kid's entire life life and the life of his future family.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course I had a family. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I had a wife and I had two children. And I wanted to keep them as far away from it as possible.
I wanted them

Speaker 1 to have every advantage in the world that I didn't have so they had every opportunity to have a good life, you know, raise their own families. I wanted to be a good provider.
I loved my family.

Speaker 1 I still do, you know, very much.

Speaker 1 How much did your family know about your time in the mafia?

Speaker 1 I mean, nobody knew anything. I didn't want anybody to know.

Speaker 1 I was kind of embarrassed. My wife, you know, she was purposefully bliss.
You know, money was coming in, and

Speaker 1 she had, you know, she was secure and she was raising her kids. And, you know, she had a nice suburban life, you know.
So,

Speaker 1 like, all the wives of people that were involved in the outfit, they were, you know,

Speaker 1 blind by choice. Okay?

Speaker 2 How do you keep an entire life of crime away from your friends, away from your family? How does your wife not know?

Speaker 2 Or your kids? It seems impossible, but I know it's true.

Speaker 2 I know because I was

Speaker 2 there.

Speaker 2 Because Kenny is my father.

Speaker 2 and i had no idea about any of this until now

Speaker 2 crook county is a true crime podcast about my father kenny the kid tequila's rise through the ranks of one of the most notorious organized crime syndicates in the country, the Chicago Outfit.

Speaker 2 We'll explore in great depth my father's life of crime and its profound and lasting impact on my family to this very day.

Speaker 1 I didn't know he was in the mob until maybe 20 years after you guys were born.

Speaker 4 It's crazy to have someone that was so strong in my life and so we fucking punched him in the face over drugs because he was destroying our fucking family.

Speaker 1 You could see why he could be an enforcer. I'm blind rage, out of control, violent person.
You are sitting on a bombshell, and you probably didn't realize it.

Speaker 2 Crook County is a production of iHeart Podcasts and Tenderfoot TV in association with Common Enemy. All episodes are produced, written, and hosted by me, Kyle Tequila.

Speaker 2 Executive producers are Donald Albright and Payne Lindsay. Original score by Makeup and Vanity Set.
Main title song is called Aloha by the band Starry Eyes.

Speaker 2 End credit song is called Crush, also by the band Starry Eyes. Sound mix by Cooper Skinner.
Special thanks to my wife Nicole for not leaving me after she found out about all this shit.

Speaker 2 And a big thank you to my extended family for sharing their painful memories with me, which no doubt were never meant to see the light of day, not to mention broadcast the entire world.

Speaker 2 I hope we can all find some healing through this journey together. Thank you to Oren Rosenbaum and the excellent team at UTA for their support.

Speaker 2 And of course to my fearless attorney Wendy Benj, who is an absolute badass and a total rock star. To stay updated on all things Crook County, follow us on all socials at Crook County Podcast.

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Speaker 2 Something

Speaker 2 All is gone, waves are clear.

Speaker 2 Trust and bone, nothing left.

Speaker 2 Life is slow, waves are clear.

Speaker 2 Trust them,

Speaker 2 I'm feeling done.

Speaker 2 And all is gone and made

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Speaker 2 There's nothing left but waves of crash. I'm crushing both.

Speaker 2 Dark, blue, and endless, they've won.

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