AI, UFOs & the Future of Humanity: What You Need to Know | Thomas Kaenzig DSH #1309

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Speaker 5 But, you know,

Speaker 5 by choice.

Speaker 5 And definitely, you know, not having more than two children per couple, because that way, at least you keep things stable.

Speaker 5 And some people ask, well, how do we do it? First, I mean, the easiest one, the lowest hanging fruit is what? You know, think about it, a tax return.

Speaker 5 People can make a deduction for having an extra child, right?

Speaker 6 All right, guys, Thomas Kenzig here today. We're going to talk about the origins of humanity, aliens, UFOs, and all that sort of stuff.
Thanks for coming on, man.

Speaker 5 Well, thanks for inviting me. Yeah, let's kick it from the top.

Speaker 6 So, origins of humanity. It's a debated topic, right?

Speaker 5 Yes. Well, there's two classical explanations, right? The idea of

Speaker 5 random evolution or the idea of an almighty God sitting on a cloud somewhere.

Speaker 5 The Raylan movement proposes a third explanation, saying that life on Earth was created by extraterrestrials

Speaker 5 who came about 25,000 years ago to this planet and who created life here scientifically. And those extraterrestrials were mistaken for gods.
If you look at all the ancient texts,

Speaker 5 we're here in the Abrahamic world, right, where the Bible is widespread.

Speaker 5 You take the Bible in the ancient Hebrew version. It says in Genesis, Elohim

Speaker 5 created man in their image. Elohim did this, Elohim did this.
The word actually Elohim was mistranslated, unfortunately,

Speaker 5 in English, into the word God, which is probably the biggest lie.

Speaker 5 I always call it like that, the biggest lie on this planet.

Speaker 5 They made out of a plural, a singular, because the word Elohim literally translated actually means those who came from the sky. And if you look around the planet,

Speaker 5 other than the Abrahamic religions,

Speaker 5 Christianity,

Speaker 5 Islam, and Judaism, pretty much all the other religions, legends already talk about a plurality of beings. So this idea of a monotheism

Speaker 5 really doesn't exist much. You go to Africa.

Speaker 5 The legends there, they talk about little geniuses who came from the sky. You go to India, where they talk about the gods plural flying around in the Vihamas

Speaker 5 having names, behaving like us.

Speaker 5 You know, there's Shiva for example, right? Yeah. You go to China, there's a story of

Speaker 5 Fu Shi, Nua, you know, creating life.

Speaker 5 We have in Chinese mythology,

Speaker 5 you probably saw a few years ago the Chinese, they put a moon lander

Speaker 5 on the moon and they named it Chang E.

Speaker 5 Chang E was a Chinese goddess who supposedly lived on the moon. So, you know, this is obviously nowadays in the age of science, we can understand this.
Well, yeah, it was an extraterrestrial, right?

Speaker 5 We go here,

Speaker 5 obviously before Christianity came to this land, we, you know, the natives in their stories, in their legends, they talk about the great forefathers who created life.

Speaker 5 So there's always been pretty much in all the Greek gods, too. The Greeks, everywhere you go, other than in the

Speaker 5 Abrahamic religions, it's always been a multitude of

Speaker 5 gods. And of course, we have to understand, you know, primitive people at the time, when they saw beings coming from the sky, yes, they,

Speaker 5 you know, wow, this, this, they had like, you know, God, like describing this god-like figures, because, you know, you take,

Speaker 5 you know, even go back 500 years and you do a video call with somebody who who's up in Denver and

Speaker 5 they would think, wow, this is magic. You have godlike powers.
So think about a thousand years ago,

Speaker 5 any technology was deified. And we have to read all the ancient texts.

Speaker 5 Really try to read the ancient texts with

Speaker 5 the eyes of somebody who has a scientific understanding.

Speaker 5 You take, for example, Noah's Ark.

Speaker 5 It's in the Bible. How could this be just like a boat that floats in water? Well, how can you load up from each animal? I mean, the female and the male,

Speaker 5 the lion's not going to eat the gazelle. I mean,

Speaker 5 you got to have a huge bow to start with. And

Speaker 5 this doesn't make sense. Now, if you, in this age of science and technology, with the understanding we have today, what if they just took one cell?

Speaker 5 And then you can clone the animal. So one cell optic way less space, right? So if we can understand all these legends, the story of Jonas and the whale, right?

Speaker 5 He spent what, three days and three nights

Speaker 5 in a big fish.

Speaker 5 Explain how does that work? He's not going to come out alive after that. You spend three hours

Speaker 5 in a whale and you're probably already half digester, right? But what if it's a submarine? Okay, now this all makes sense, right?

Speaker 5 And that's really, so we have these extraterrestrial scientists who came here, created all forms of life, starting off with very primitive life forms, and then ultimately, as they say, as it's said in the Bible, humans in their image and their likeness.

Speaker 5 Got it. And

Speaker 5 so they stayed in touch with humanity by sending at different times prophets,

Speaker 5 Moses, Buddha. Jesus, Muhammad, Joseph Smith, to mention one that is

Speaker 5 here in the Americas, right? So about a total of 40 prophets were sent to basically guide humanity to,

Speaker 5 how should I say, simply put, have more love for each other, live a harmonious life. And yes, that's really the role of a prophet.

Speaker 5 And now that we're in the age of science and understanding, the age of apocalypse,

Speaker 5 apocalypse doesn't, a lot of people, oh, well, you talk about destruction. No, not at all.

Speaker 5 The word apocalypse comes from the Greek apocalypsis. It means revelation.

Speaker 5 This is

Speaker 5 this day and age that we're in right now, ever since the explosion of the first atomic bomb in Japan in 1945.

Speaker 5 And that's when the Elohim, our extraterrestrial creators, decided to send their last messenger, Rael.

Speaker 5 And they gave a mission to basically inform the whole planet about our extraterrestrial origin and build an embassy for them where they can officially be welcomed. Wow.

Speaker 6 You just said a lot. I got a lot of questions.

Speaker 5 Yeah, sure. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 So basically, from the start, you don't believe that evolution happened, right?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 5 Actually, you know, for me, I

Speaker 5 became a Raylian, I would say it was simply a rational choice.

Speaker 5 So when you always ask yourself any scientific theory, any hypothesis, can you replicate it?

Speaker 5 Now, you know, Miller and many other scientists for decades have been sitting in front of some earth and hoping something to happen, and nothing really comes out of it, right?

Speaker 5 So out of nothing, nothing's going to come. Now, what the Rayan philosophy is proposing is

Speaker 5 scientific, atheistic creationism. And that's what we are replicating today.
I mean, there's scientists right now who, as we speak, there's probably tens of thousands of PhDs in labs who create life.

Speaker 5 You know, we start off with very simple life forms. I think it was

Speaker 5 Craig Venter, somebody who created the first single cell organism a few years ago.

Speaker 5 And one day a scientist,

Speaker 5 obviously we will evolve our techniques, yes. But one day there will be a scientist who will dream about creating a being

Speaker 5 in our image,

Speaker 5 just like it was with us. And he may have to go to to another planet because this may be too controversial um some people think cloning already exists well cloning is is a um

Speaker 5 yes i mean uh jesus was probably the first clone jesus was cloned well he was think about it he died on the cross and then he reappeared as a possible right so again um this is

Speaker 5 2000 years ago you couldn't scientifically explain this but nowadays we can understand it i mean

Speaker 5 all they had to do is, yeah, basically clone him in an advanced stage compared with what we know today, right? Cloning today is just creating a later-born twin, if you want.

Speaker 5 So it has the same DNA, but obviously we grow up at a different time, different conditioning, different programming. But so once you can

Speaker 5 create a being at an advanced adult stage, think of you have you seen the movie The Fifth Element? I haven't. You know, where they basically

Speaker 5 did this mysterious woman who helps them to

Speaker 5 save humanity ultimately. But they create her just kind of like in a machine, program it, and she's assembled and she comes out as an adult body, right?

Speaker 5 You don't have to go through a, because right now a clone obviously is going to be born as a little baby and

Speaker 5 it takes years, right? So if when you can, you can call it advanced growth process, master that, somebody comes out out at an adult stage.

Speaker 5 And then the only thing you have to do is what, transfer personality and memory. And even that, we're getting close to that.
So once, once we will be able to transfer personality and memory and master

Speaker 5 some kind of advanced growth process, we will have eternal life. Wow.

Speaker 5 It will not be a, you know, for thousands of years, people have been talking about eternal life, but it was always mystified, right? And now, again,

Speaker 5 in this age of science and technology, we can understand all this. It's no longer a mystery.
And that was announced a long time ago.

Speaker 5 It's in this age, the age of apocalypse, the mystery of God will be solved. That's what we're seeing.
Science is basically,

Speaker 5 yeah, it's ultimately removing, killing the idea of some kind of an immaterial God. But explained to us that these were just beings who love us and who would like to come back.

Speaker 5 And that's why the Radar movement has its goal to...

Speaker 5 to build an embassy for them.

Speaker 6 It's exciting. I saw a scientist clone the woolly mammoth.
Did you see that?

Speaker 5 They're working on that. Yeah, the problem, you have to get DNA

Speaker 5 that is still

Speaker 5 fully there, not just fragments of it. But yeah, maybe you're going to use an elephant as a surrogate, right? Because you're still going to

Speaker 5 go for a pregnancy at this stage. So yeah, but all this is

Speaker 5 happening very fast. And always remember that the

Speaker 5 science fiction of yesterday is today's science, right? Yeah. And

Speaker 5 our science fiction today will be tomorrow's science.

Speaker 6 We're going to live in Star Trek in 50 years.

Speaker 5 Well, we're going to reach singularity very soon

Speaker 5 and

Speaker 5 we will be able to travel if we don't kill ourselves. And that's really mankind is right now at this stage where

Speaker 5 we will either use science and technology to create

Speaker 5 a better planet for everybody, the golden age that was announced a long time ago, or we will self-destruct. I mean, if you look at

Speaker 5 so many countries have, you know, nuclear weapons, and if one starts to push a button, the other will respond, and it's going to be the end of all of us.

Speaker 5 So we're right at this, it's a very, I always tell people, we are living at the most exciting time. You know, think about it.
Our ancestors were shoveling coal in mines

Speaker 5 with really

Speaker 5 very little hope, right?

Speaker 5 We are, our generation, we are the ones who are going to, it's kind of the do or die moment.

Speaker 5 And and we're gonna enter this golden age or we're gonna disappear so um of course as raelins we are here to to save humanity and and by i think by bringing this message of uh

Speaker 5 um it's not only explaining because a lot of people think you know the raid philosophy yes okay okay we come from ets okay thanks but it's not just the past yes we have we bring a very rational explanation about the the origin of life but uh

Speaker 5 we have have uh teachings about living in the present moment and i think that's uh something that uh is is uh the now which is is very important and a lot of people have kind of uh lost track of it that they're they have you know stuck in the past or worry about a future that this will never happen it's not there um so it's very important to uh yeah teach people to to be in the now and we have seminars on a regular basis worldwide where we teach meditation and and help people to be in the present moment, to have,

Speaker 5 how should I say, to develop a happiness, a true happiness that comes from the inside.

Speaker 5 And I think it is

Speaker 5 one of the biggest illusions on this planet, other than the idea of an almighty God.

Speaker 5 I think

Speaker 5 the other big illusion is the idea of separation.

Speaker 5 You know, just look at our language, right? People say, my girlfriend,

Speaker 5 my cat, my house, my car. You know, there's always, you know, I own this, it's me separate.
Whereas we're all just stardust, you and I, we ultimately,

Speaker 5 the matter that we're made of comes from the stars. And yes, we are alive right now.
And when we die, we go back and

Speaker 5 to...

Speaker 5 Well, we've always been part of that dust, but basically the organized matter becomes inorganized matter. But

Speaker 5 we're all just stardust. And people on this planet would understand that, then that removes any basis for war and

Speaker 5 all the horrible things we're seeing nowadays on this planet.

Speaker 5 So that's the, yes,

Speaker 5 the rational explanation about our past, the philosophy that helps us to live in the now. And at the same time, the raid philosophy, it prepares us for a beautiful future.

Speaker 5 And we are very enthusiastic about what we see happening with AI.

Speaker 5 And very soon we'll have

Speaker 5 a planet where people won't have to work anymore.

Speaker 5 Isn't that great?

Speaker 5 Because the Elohim that didn't create a story.

Speaker 5 Get up at the sound of an alarm clock at 6 a.m.

Speaker 5 to brush your teeth, go downstairs, eat your toast, get in a car, drive to work, pluck in your nine hours, go back, sit tired in front of the TV and then go to bed and do that for 40 years and then retire and maybe five years later, have a heart attack.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's a nightmare if you think about it.

Speaker 5 But thanks to science and technology, we will very soon be able to create a society where

Speaker 5 full of abundance, everybody will be able to live and then enjoy themselves, create, meditate, do what they want to do. without having this huge burden of

Speaker 5 having to work and the clock in somewhere.

Speaker 6 That would be interesting. That's how the ancient civilizations operated right

Speaker 5 yeah i mean uh that's uh when when you read about the when they talk about the paradise and all these things of course you don't want to

Speaker 5 don't want to have a society where where you work and where there's money and we're really close we're getting really close to this moment really and it's uh i mean you you can see it everywhere right now i mean uh you remember the i mean in simple ways i mean look at you go to the store okay

Speaker 5 you used to always talk to cashier with and you know swipes the bar calls and gives you a toll and you pay, right? Nowadays, you can do self-checkout, right?

Speaker 5 You used to go to many malls, you have to buy everything. Now Amazon, we're in a warehouse.
A robot assembles your order.

Speaker 5 Right now, we still have a truck driver during that truck within a couple of years. There won't be a truck drive anymore.
It'd be just all done by robots. So we already see all that coming.

Speaker 5 And things are going to go very, very fast. I was talking to a friend of mine recently.
He works in the field of AI.

Speaker 5 He's been a developer all his life he told me he only writes 2% of his code himself 98% it's the AI is doing it that's crazy people develop their coding skills for years right now yeah go to college and and the problem that's why you know the if you're a junior developer it's very hard to find any any any job because that's all done by computers and robots and that's it's happening in literally all industries thankfully and and so within a few years we'll be able to to really live in a in a in a leisure society and and that will also help to

Speaker 5 i should say to yes increase the happiness of of people because think about it if you're if you're going to worry about whether you can make ends meet at the end of the month right um that's you know is it's difficult to be fully uh fully how to say

Speaker 6 awakened and and and you know in harmony that's a big stressor for most families that's a financial

Speaker 5 yeah um

Speaker 6 you mentioned nuclear weapons earlier as a big threat. Also, do you think overpopulation is a threat to humanity?

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 5 I was born in 1973, and the world population was around 4 billion. Now, 52 years later, we more than doubled.
Wow.

Speaker 5 So that is really, it is a huge issue for humanity. And

Speaker 5 that's one of the main pieces of advice the Elohim gives us that we really

Speaker 5 should,

Speaker 5 of course, some people are saying all these crazy ideas about you know reducing population not not forcefully but but you know by choice

Speaker 5 and definitely you know not not having more than two children per couple because that way at least you keep things stable and you know some people ask well how do we do this at first I mean the easiest one is the lowest hanging fruit is what you know think about a tax return people can make a deduction for you know having an extra child right so you basically have an incentive this is a crazy thing in our society in most countries, you're being given an incentive to have more children.

Speaker 5 In some countries, like

Speaker 5 in Europe, for example, in France, if you have 10, 12 kids, you can pretty much live off the government check. Wow.

Speaker 5 And that's, you know, so there's definitely, so there's easy things we can change. And I hope just if people are, you know, aware of that and just a conscious, you make a conscious decision.

Speaker 5 That's, that's me personally. I do not have any children.

Speaker 5 Great for those

Speaker 5 who choose to have one, but please don't have more than two per person.

Speaker 6 Elon Musk, baby. He's got 14.

Speaker 5 Elon Musk has many ideas.

Speaker 5 We agree with him, but definitely not as close

Speaker 5 in terms of the number of children.

Speaker 6 Well, I see his point of view too, because he's trying to build legacy and his kids maybe take the throne one day.

Speaker 5 But if everybody has 10 plus, I mean, we just don't,

Speaker 5 you know, you know, we just don't have the resources, you know. And think of it: if everybody on the planet would live like we do here.

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Speaker 5 with you know one two cars per household i mean the whole infrastructure it's you just don't have the resources right yeah probably not enough real estate right um yeah and i mean everything i mean we it comes down to a simple like ultimately like water food and all that right yeah um and uh we will

Speaker 5 I mean, in the U.S., if you look at the population density here, it's still somewhat because we have a lot of land, but you go to a place like Bangladesh,

Speaker 5 uh india some of these places you know i mean you have one disruption even in the supply chain and you know we have starvation and all that so uh have you been over there um i've been to a lot of asian countries but not not not bangladesh yeah yeah nice where is raelian movement the biggest which country so the railin movement is really on on all the continents um from you know here us canada in mexico and in in in north america um in in europe obviously in the french-speaking countries because Rael, you know,

Speaker 5 is French originally.

Speaker 5 And so he started spreading the message in French-speaking Europe, so in France, Switzerland, but we also have a lot of Raelans in Africa, in Western Africa, mainly Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Congo.

Speaker 5 Most Raylands are actually in Asia,

Speaker 5 in Japan.

Speaker 5 And we have lots of members too in Korea. And some is not by surprise, because probably the Buddhist countries,

Speaker 5 Buddhism is basically, Raelianism is basically Buddhism without the mysticism. So it's an easy jump, right? An easy step

Speaker 5 from Buddhism to Raidanism.

Speaker 5 You know, if you take the Abrahamic religions, right, it's very dogmatic, you know, don't do this, don't do that, you're a sinner and all that.

Speaker 5 The Buddhism is focused on the awakening of a person.

Speaker 5 And obviously, so is

Speaker 5 Rayanism. It's to

Speaker 5 be yourself and

Speaker 5 be happy and

Speaker 5 not

Speaker 5 this heavy luggage of

Speaker 5 you're a sinner and

Speaker 5 kind of 10 commandments style, don't do this kind of thing.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so a lot of shame there, right?

Speaker 5 Yes, absolutely, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And they make you confess. Yeah, it's an interesting model, right?

Speaker 5 It's a terrible model because it creates somebody who's

Speaker 5 full of fear. Oh, did I do this right?

Speaker 5 And all that.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 when a human being can grow up and,

Speaker 5 I should say, develop themselves

Speaker 5 the way they are, be themselves, as we like to say it, then

Speaker 5 that creates a totally different human being. A human being that is more loving, more happy, more harmonious.
And through that,

Speaker 5 will awaken

Speaker 5 brothers and sisters around himself. I love it.

Speaker 6 Do you believe in the afterlife, like heaven and hell?

Speaker 5 So the Elohim do recreate on the planet of eternals those human beings who have

Speaker 5 have done a lot of positive for humanity.

Speaker 5 All the prophets of old are there. So karma?

Speaker 5 Well, no, but it's very important. It's a scientific recreation.

Speaker 5 So with somebody's DNA and this, this, what we call, as we talked before, about an advanced growth process and the memory transfer, they can recreate. So if,

Speaker 5 say,

Speaker 5 you die in a car accident, and Sean, hopefully you've done a lot of positive and good for humanity, they would

Speaker 5 recreate you. on the planet it turns but it's it's it's a scientific recreation okay that's uh but it was talked about as you say all the religions of the past, right? They talk about this paradise,

Speaker 5 but it was obviously mystified again due to a lack of scientific understanding. But it's simply the plan of eternals,

Speaker 5 people call the paradise in the past, is simply a place of leisure, blossoming, and awakening.

Speaker 6 Interesting. Do you think there's a lot of misunderstanding around Jesus and Moses?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 yeah, I mean, they obviously

Speaker 5 brought,

Speaker 5 they were prophets of the Elohim, but

Speaker 5 we misunderstood, I think, many, many things

Speaker 5 they said. The problem was, you know, think about nowadays,

Speaker 5 Raul, the last prophet of Elohim, he's here in the day and age of signs. We can record him.
So whatever he said, you know, we can show it. There's all these videos.

Speaker 5 You're going to website rael.org and you can click, look at all the videos, everything he says, right? So it's all documented.

Speaker 5 The problem with the prophets of old, there was no, I mean,

Speaker 5 what they were teaching, that was actually written down years, decades later, not necessarily by the people who are actually a first-hand witness. So things get totally, totally transformed.

Speaker 5 I mean, if you look at

Speaker 5 Jesus, he was, you know, speaking about love and compassion. I don't see that in the Catholic Church.
I mean, look at what

Speaker 5 the horrors they've done over centuries, you know, the crusades, the burning of the witches. That's not, Jesus didn't want that.
Jesus never, I mean, that's,

Speaker 5 uh,

Speaker 5 yeah, that's, so there's, we have to make a difference between the prophet and his teachings at the time and versus the

Speaker 5 organizations that came out of it.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It's like that game telephone.
Did you play that growing up?

Speaker 5 Where like you have 10 people and you end up exactly.

Speaker 5 Somebody says something to some somebody else and then 10 people later right it's totally exactly

Speaker 5 yes yes and that's why i feel so um

Speaker 5 how should i say uh privileged to be alive at at this day and age where we you know we have we have a living prophet we can actually see exactly what he says it it's all recorded and and there's no you can't uh you can't betray i would say that yeah you can the prophet cannot betrayed anymore whereas in the past yes unfortunately many prophets were their teachings were betrayed Yeah, a lot of people label themselves as prophets.

Speaker 6 I never know who to believe, you know.

Speaker 5 First of all, we have to maybe demystify the term, right? The prophet, it comes from the Greek, the one who reveals.

Speaker 5 A true prophet reveals something

Speaker 5 and that he's ahead of time. Right.

Speaker 5 And yeah, of course, it was said

Speaker 5 in the Bible, too, there will be many false prophets. And that's what we're seeing today, right? In our day and age.

Speaker 6 It's social media, yeah.

Speaker 5 It's in their Instagram bio. Yeah, I always tell people, you know, just, you know, make up your mind.
And that's really, as Raelins, we are never,

Speaker 5 no Raelin will want to convince anybody of something.

Speaker 5 We are here. I'm here today just to speak about the rain philosophy.
I tell people, go on our website, Valdador, download this message, which comes from the stars. and make up your mind.

Speaker 5 If it speaks to you, great. If it doesn't, great.
I want you. I want you to be happy.
That is, it's if I don't want everybody to become Raelian, not at all.

Speaker 5 I want people to be happy, and uh, um, but yeah, check it out and then make up your mind. That's what I was talking about.

Speaker 6 I like that because a lot of modern religion is kind of culty, you know.

Speaker 5 Yes, and you have to believe and convince. I, you see, any you talk to any Raelian,

Speaker 5 they're all we somehow we

Speaker 5 when I I'm just, you know, kind of looking back at myself, when I read the book, right, the

Speaker 5 the message from the Elohim,

Speaker 5 when I was going through the pages, I just, I found myself,

Speaker 5 I saw in it what I've always believed to be true. So there was nothing, nobody convinced me of anything.
For me, it's like, it's like all the pieces of the puzzle came together.

Speaker 5 That's how I felt. That's, you know, when you talk to Tyralians, the Trueans, they're all, they just saw themselves in that book, in that message.
It resonated with them. And

Speaker 5 nobody gets convinced or anything.

Speaker 5 Because the truth, either people recognize it or they don't. So there's no need.
I'm not going to waste time trying to explain people something.

Speaker 5 Like when people ask me about, you know, the rain philosophy, I just usually give them the flyer and say, here, check it out, the website. If you want to know more, call me.
And yeah. I love that.

Speaker 6 The Raelian symbol of infinity. Could you explain the meaning behind that?

Speaker 5 Yes, it's the symbol that I'm wearing here today.

Speaker 5 It's the symbol of Yarrohim, the symbol of infinity. It has two parts, right?

Speaker 5 You see the star of David, which represents infinity in space, and you have the swastika, which represents infinity in time.

Speaker 5 So what does that mean? So the infinity in space, you have a triangle pointing up and a triangle pointing down. The triangle pointing up.
represents the infinitely large, meaning we are

Speaker 5 on a planet that goes around a sun, right? And the sun circles around the center of a galaxy in an infinite universe. That's on our level.
Now,

Speaker 5 these galaxies that we're all inside, they're on an infinitely larger level.

Speaker 5 They're inside an atom, a molecule of something infinitely larger, maybe a living human being. Maybe we are.
inside on an infinitely larger level.

Speaker 5 You're inside a person who right now interviews somebody else.

Speaker 5 And that to the infinite, you know, it goes infinite. Same with the triangle pointing down, meaning that

Speaker 5 in my finger, for example,

Speaker 5 there's atoms in there. And in those particles inside, there's on an infinitely smaller level, there's galaxies with solar systems, planets.

Speaker 5 And maybe for sure, in here, there's in one of them, there's people talking about infinity too.

Speaker 5 And so, and that goes forever to the, you know, infinitely small. So that's the infinity in space represented by the star of David.
Then we have the swastika.

Speaker 5 It represents infinity in time, meaning there's no beginning and no end. Everything is cyclical.

Speaker 5 And of course, the swastika has been

Speaker 5 in Western countries.

Speaker 5 It was tarnished

Speaker 5 by Hitler abusing the symbol. But the swastika has been around for thousands of years.
Really? And yeah, it only had positive connotations.

Speaker 5 I mean, the word swastika from the Sanskrit means little things associated with well-being. That's the etymological meaning of it, right? But even in the United States, until the 1920s,

Speaker 5 people got married. They often received a postcard with a swastika on it, you know, wishing them well.

Speaker 5 You go, like in San Francisco, the old mint, the old U.S. Mint, and you can still see that today.

Speaker 5 There's a big swastika there.

Speaker 5 You remember President Garfield?

Speaker 5 I don't, actually.

Speaker 5 It's one of the.

Speaker 6 I'm 28.

Speaker 5 Yeah, okay. Yeah, well, it's well before my time, too.

Speaker 5 I heard of him, I heard him. Yeah, and there's a memorial.
Like most presidents, they have a memorial, right? Yeah. And in that building.

Speaker 5 There is on the floor, there's swastikas. Really? Yeah.
So until Hitler abused an already existing symbol, it was really only

Speaker 5 a positive

Speaker 5 connotation, a very positive meaning. And specifically,

Speaker 5 some ask,

Speaker 5 why do you use the swastika? Because you know, blah, blah, blah. Well, because

Speaker 5 I don't want to give credit to this monster. And that's why the RAID movement, we have this,

Speaker 5 we initiate an action called the swastika rehabilitation day, where we... you know, basically

Speaker 5 public spaces, you know, explain to people the origin of the swastika and actually want to take it back. Because

Speaker 5 if you associated it with Hitler, you're only giving credit to this guy.

Speaker 5 So, and he just abused a very beautiful symbol, and that's why it's very important to explain to people the beautiful original meaning, right? So, and symbols can be abused by anybody. Think about it.

Speaker 5 You take

Speaker 5 well, the Kukuk's clan is using the Christian cross, right?

Speaker 5 I don't think Christians

Speaker 5 agree with

Speaker 5 the Klan's ideology, right?

Speaker 5 So, um you know so symbols can always be abused but that's why it's so important to to explain people the the true and and original meaning yeah that's good to know i didn't know it was around that long did you see what happened to kanye west he actually posted our symbol oh he did he yes he he actually the screenshot is our symbol oh wow and and but i don't know um we tried to reach out to him I did send him a DM, but I, you know, never heard back.

Speaker 5 And I don't know what his intention was. And he sometimes sometimes seems to have, you know,

Speaker 6 I don't know. Well, he tried selling the shirts with the swastika on Shopify and then they banned him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in, but I, you know, I don't know what,

Speaker 5 you know, what went through his mind when he posted that or, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But again, it's, you know, what is most, the most important thing to remember, the swastika is a, a, it's actually a sacred symbol. You go to Asia, you have it all over the place.

Speaker 5 I mean, in Japan, you know, you walk in Tokyo, like a manhole cover, there's a swastika on there.

Speaker 5 On a Tokyo map,

Speaker 5 all the temples, this is what they're basically marked with a swastika, like here, we marked the churches with a cross on the map, right? Yeah, so they marked them with a swastika on

Speaker 5 the map.

Speaker 5 That's crazy.

Speaker 5 And that's why in Asia, people are totally, I should say,

Speaker 5 they're all familiar. For them, this is a highly, highly regarded, sacred symbol.

Speaker 5 And so actually, I have to say, so it is here. Because when I say here,

Speaker 5 we all came only a few hundred years ago here, but the original owners of the land here, the natives, for them, the swastika is a very

Speaker 5 sacred and highly regarded symbol too.

Speaker 6 That is interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of programming around the swastika, right? The Western culture, how it's evil.
I remember growing up learning about it.

Speaker 5 But that's why it's so important for us to

Speaker 5 restore and to rehabilitate it. Yes.

Speaker 5 That's what we're doing. And

Speaker 5 we have a website.

Speaker 5 It's pro swastika oneword.org.

Speaker 5 And you can see pictures of swa. You can actually, we have a whole section there.

Speaker 5 It's

Speaker 5 and we have like, you know, for different continents, subsections for each continent, and there's one for Israel. Really?

Speaker 5 So even in Israel, the Engere synagogue on the ground, there is, there's swastika

Speaker 5 in Capernaum. And one of the most holy sites for the Jewish people, the Second Temple.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 it's been a Jewish symbol, a symbol of Judaism for thousands of years as well. So

Speaker 5 and that's why we have this rehabilitate the swastika action. And yeah.

Speaker 6 We'll link that below in the video. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm just now realizing a lot of the history I was taught growing up was incorrect.
So I have to unlearn everything.

Speaker 5 That's why I'm here.

Speaker 6 Well, history is just programming in school.

Speaker 5 Absolutely.

Speaker 6 You know, they teach it from one perspective. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And that's, that's why I think the beautiful thing

Speaker 5 I think day and age of the internet, I think that changed a lot, right? Because you're, yes, people still go to school and, you know, and

Speaker 5 programmed by their parents, programmed school, but the internet, you can go and, you know,

Speaker 5 check things out yourself, look at different, different sources, different perspectives. Even the,

Speaker 5 if you look at the news, for example,

Speaker 5 I always look at very different

Speaker 5 news sources. You know,

Speaker 5 yes, I look at the mainstream US media just to kind of see what's going, but also look at, at RT, Russia Today. Do I know it's sponsored by the Russian government?

Speaker 5 Yes, of course I know that, but it gives me a different perspective. I look at Chinese news,

Speaker 5 South China Morning Post.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 that helps you. And that's really the, you know, I remember growing up,

Speaker 5 we just had the local newspapers delivered in your mailbox. Yeah.
That's kind of, you know,

Speaker 5 and then the evening news on television, right? That's about it. But nowadays, you can really, thanks to the internet, you know, you can, you can make up your own mind, do your own research.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And yeah, it's

Speaker 5 a great time to be alive.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it makes you think because when we paint certain countries and leaders as villains, it's like, are they actually villains or are we just portraying them that way?

Speaker 5 Right? Absolutely.

Speaker 6 And then you dive into it, and usually they're decent people.

Speaker 5 They're human beings, like you and I, and they have different viewpoints.

Speaker 5 But I think

Speaker 5 ultimately,

Speaker 5 that's why

Speaker 5 the message of the Elohim is so important, because it's a message that will unify the world.

Speaker 5 Because once you understand, we were all created by the same people.

Speaker 5 It's not

Speaker 5 Allah or my God.

Speaker 5 No, it's the same people who just send different prophets at different times.

Speaker 5 Teachers of love, that's how I call them.

Speaker 5 But when you understand, it's all the same with the actually

Speaker 5 race. The Elohim on purpose created seven original races on this planet it's like a a filter

Speaker 5 because think about it would you give your inheritance to a civilization that is primitive where they kill each other just because of a very slight difference in skin color no no so so the the so the that's why the elohim originally created seven different races.

Speaker 5 Now, of course, nowadays we've intermixed quite a bit already. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But that's that's just a it's a beautiful filter. But once we can see that, it's all,

Speaker 5 and then you speak about the conditioning. Yeah, for example, we just had a

Speaker 5 big campaign.

Speaker 5 Adam and Eve were black.

Speaker 5 We had a billboard campaign in Atlanta and actually were white in Africa too. And think about it for black people,

Speaker 5 they were brutally, in Africa, brutally colonized by the white Christians who told them God is white, Jesus is white, all the angels are white.

Speaker 5 You don't, you know,

Speaker 5 how and I'm always wondering how you can even be Christian

Speaker 5 as an African because

Speaker 6 wouldn't it make sense?

Speaker 5 No, you know, think about it. But the truth is very different, actually.

Speaker 5 The Elohim too, they have, you know, they were originally

Speaker 5 seven different races. Wow.
And

Speaker 5 so. So Adam and Eve were black? Yes.
Yes. That's what

Speaker 5 Rael revealed to us. Holy crap.
That's crazy. It destroys this, you know,

Speaker 5 a very,

Speaker 5 a very, how should I say, white-dominated culture. You know, the world culture is very white-dominated.
Yeah. And, but it's beautiful what we see right now.

Speaker 5 I mean, you look at, I don't know how much you follow the politics in Africa, but in Africa that much. There's many countries there, you know, they were, you know,

Speaker 5 colonized by the French. Now they're kicking out the French.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 that's beautiful. And I mean, think about Africa, but, you know, you look at the map of Africa today, right?

Speaker 5 Do you see the lines, how the straight lines for the countries? Yeah. That doesn't, you know, that doesn't occur naturally.

Speaker 5 No, that's what, because in 1881, the colonizers got together and kind of split up the continent. Like, you know, you take a cake and just, you know, make pieces.
And that's why...

Speaker 5 there were a lot of wars like the the the the Hutu and the Tutsi in Rwanda, right? Because basically what happened, we put

Speaker 5 two or multiple tribes which lived separately uh for for for for millennia and we put them in the same country so then they're fighting for power of course and and so that's really that that's because of the the colonization by by the white people and and rao has been been a strong advocate to in Africa to he calls for a a a cultural uh decolonization.

Speaker 5 You know, think about the people always, you know, wearing the suits. And again, it's a Western

Speaker 5 in Africa, beautiful dresses there, the original African dresses.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 5 a cultural decolonization, a religious one, of course, because they have beautiful

Speaker 5 religions

Speaker 5 in Africa before Christianity and Islam came, economic as well.

Speaker 5 and in a political

Speaker 5 and basically get rid of the colonizing country. And because, you know, think about it, they all had like the French, they had their

Speaker 5 compounds there to basically pretty much elect or make sure the right person gets elected as president.

Speaker 5 But all that is changing.

Speaker 5 And same on a global level, if you look at, you know, with China, the new

Speaker 5 rising power, it creates a...

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 for at least the last few decades, even centuries,

Speaker 5 let's say the Anglo-Saxon, the North American European cultures have dominated the planet.

Speaker 5 And now you can see, you know, China coming and Dubai. Yes, yes.
So it's much more a, which is what humanity should be. We have different colors, different

Speaker 5 cultures. And

Speaker 5 just as we advocate for, you know, being yourself individually, then that applies to the cultures too.

Speaker 5 So instead of having kind of like a white-dominated European culture worldwide, we see much more of a diversity and that diversity is what creates a beautiful humanity, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah, when you look at a lot of wars, a lot of them seem orchestrated.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, it's hard to, of course, the winners of every war is always a military-industrial complex. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's always remember that. And I mean, Eisenhower talked about it already, right?

Speaker 5 And I think, you know, even here in the news in the US, right, they say, oh, we sent billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine. What do you actually mean? I mean,

Speaker 5 you gave a lot of money to weapons manufacturers here so they can make weapons so people there can kill each other.

Speaker 5 It's not, you know, when I hear aid, you know, I'm thinking, well, I'm going to bring food or, you know, I don't know, medical supplies. No, it's mainly here, making people here rich.

Speaker 5 so they can sell their weapons over there. Wow.
And many, many, many, many conflicts. I mean, it's, it's,

Speaker 5 they're always the winners.

Speaker 5 And that's why the Rain philosophy,

Speaker 5 probably the most important teaching is nothing justifies violence.

Speaker 5 Very important. Nothing justifies violence.

Speaker 5 If somebody comes and say, by killing this person, we will save a thousand people, 10,000, don't do it. Because

Speaker 5 once you justify the killing of one person for something good,

Speaker 5 then

Speaker 5 why not 10? Why not 100? Doesn't stop. Why not 1,000?

Speaker 5 That's probably the most important teaching of the Elohim right now is to nothing justifies violence.

Speaker 5 It's sad that we have to remind people of that, right?

Speaker 5 Even in the Old Testament,

Speaker 5 do not kill, right? That's kind of...

Speaker 5 But yes. And then we will truly be able to create a world of peace.
And the Elohim are creators, they really don't want to come into a world of violence. Think about it.

Speaker 5 Why would they want to come here? Why would somebody from another planet want to come here

Speaker 5 if people themselves kill each other just because they're of a different country, of a different race, different religion? It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 I mean, most of the astronauts, if you listen to them, they all have this beautiful testimony, right? When they look at the Earth from above, you don't see any border.

Speaker 5 There's no, you know, USA, Mexico. No, this is

Speaker 5 no line. That's all an illusion, you know? Yeah.
And so,

Speaker 5 yeah.

Speaker 6 I hope we could get there one day at a world peace because ever since I was a kid, I remember seeing war on the news or on social media now.

Speaker 5 Yes, but let's always remember. I think

Speaker 5 you bring up an important point. And that's, I think, especially in the U.S.,

Speaker 5 I was born in Switzerland, right? I've been here for 25 years. So I kind of look at it.
I mean, I've lived here half my life, but I also have the view of an outsider.

Speaker 5 The problem in the United States, it's very much from an early stage on

Speaker 5 you're being conditioned to the idea of of of war or through war achieving something good i mean it starts in school think about it yeah every morning pledge of allegiance to a country the flag that that already oh yeah i'm american but you know it's very and me or us and the others you know you already create a separation

Speaker 5 um our that the whole and then you can what is the rotc you know basically like this this pre-military training high school Yeah. I mean, you know, think about it.
So there's very much this

Speaker 5 focus on,

Speaker 5 and, and I see it, you know, you go to

Speaker 5 a store, Home Depot,

Speaker 5 they have special parking for the veterans.

Speaker 5 So you glorify people who fought in the war.

Speaker 6 Veteran discounts are almost every company, yeah.

Speaker 5 And so you create this idea that somebody who fought, you know, is a good person.

Speaker 5 And I even, I travel a lot for business.

Speaker 5 And at the airport, I remember there's this

Speaker 5 soldier, 20 years old, he buys a sandwich. Somebody comes from behind and say, well, let me buy this for you.
Thank you for your service.

Speaker 5 And I was standing there like, service,

Speaker 5 what service are we talking about? Who's being served by a soldier going abroad and killing people? Who is being served? I mean, are you kidding me? So even the words, right?

Speaker 5 The whole language,

Speaker 5 we see, we talk about military service.

Speaker 5 So we're constantly programmed. And then, of course, the movies, you know, Hollywood is is always a big conditioning code, right? You know, you see Top Gun, whatever.
Oh, they fight the bad guys.

Speaker 5 We don't, I mean, who tells these are bad people? What would, I mean, they're in a faraway land. And okay, I mean, you know, somebody's, one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

Speaker 5 Yeah, right.

Speaker 6 They would call us terrorists for invading their land. Exactly.

Speaker 5 So, and that's really, I think, you bring up an important point. I think it's really, it starts with education.

Speaker 5 So imagine at school, instead of doing this stupid Pledge of Allegiance every morning, what if all the kids would do a peace meditation? Imagine that.

Speaker 5 It would totally change. The children would grow up in a very different way.
They wouldn't want to fight anymore after that.

Speaker 5 Or instead of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, how about reciting human rights?

Speaker 5 And that's really, if we could just, that is a small example, but if we could replace the Pledge of Allegiance with something

Speaker 5 peace-oriented, unifying, like like like meditation i think we as raelins we do on a regular basis peace meditations and imagine every morning school all the kids before the day start they do a peace meditation we we change the world very quickly yeah there's a lot of good studies on meditation how it helps the mind yeah i uh one of one of the core teachings of the elohim is to

Speaker 5 different meditation meditation meditation techniques that that we teach.

Speaker 5 I personally meditate every day,

Speaker 5 usually in the morning upon awakening, and it helps you to connect with

Speaker 5 infinity and

Speaker 5 kind of set the tone for the day, a very harmonious,

Speaker 5 balanced

Speaker 5 way to start the day.

Speaker 6 I love that. Thomas, it's been really interesting.
Where can people find you and learn more about the movement?

Speaker 5 Go on our website, ryal.org, r-a-e-l.org, check it out, make up your mind and take from these messages whatever is for you. I hope it brings you happiness and joy, and

Speaker 5 whatever you choose. Either way,

Speaker 5 have a happy life.

Speaker 6 Beautiful. Thanks for coming on.
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