From $200 Gigs to Global Tours: My DJ Success Story | Cedric Gervais DSH #1378

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Speaker 2 Once in a while, not boo the whole crowd, but you have those haters that come. I don't understand this thing.

Speaker 2 They come to your show and they just sit there, don't dance, look at you, gives you the finger, or

Speaker 2 puts the phone, you suck. I'm like, why are you even on my show? You bought a ticket to come see me and you're insulting me.
I mean, it's like, they're just hating no matter what.

Speaker 2 It is no matter what song you put on, they're going to be hating. Well, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 All right, guys, out here in Miami with Cedric. My man, how late were you out last night? Not that late.

Speaker 2 12 o'clock. Oh, that's not bad at all.
Yeah, not bad. Because I know you live a pretty crazy lifestyle.
Yeah. Usually you're out much later, right? Usually I go to bed.

Speaker 2 I mean, when I don't work, I go to bed like nine o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I try to live a very healthy lifestyle. But when I work, it's like I don't get any sleep.
Like on the weekend, I'll play until two and then I have a flight at 6 a.m. in the morning.

Speaker 2 So I sleep like two hours. Oh my gosh.
To get to the next city. Does that ever take a toll on you, like burnout?

Speaker 2 a little bit i mean i've been doing this for like close to 20 years now yeah so it's like you know the traveling takes a lot out of me yeah have you slowed down at all do you think you'll keep doing another 20 more years i don't know i the thing is i love doing what i do you know what i mean so it's like i haven't thought about slowing down it's just uh it's just traveling gets harder and harder on me yeah that's the only thing that's happening and you do a lot of international traveling too yeah yeah international travel uh but even in the united states i mean I compare

Speaker 2 when I tour in the summer in Europe,

Speaker 2 the countries are so close to each other. So it's an hour flight, two-hour flight, three-hour flight.

Speaker 2 When in America, when I'm in Miami, I got to go to Vegas six hours. You know what I mean? You cross the country all the time.
And sometimes I do Vegas and then I have to go to New York the next day.

Speaker 2 It's it's a it's long flights. Yeah, you know, that Vegas to Miami flight is brutal because then you lose three hours to do it brutal.
And I do it twice a month with my residency.

Speaker 2 So it's like really brutal. How's the Vegas market been lately?

Speaker 2 it's great I mean it's been it's been amazing for me it's I've been 15 years in Vegas yeah you know resident of Tao Group and I'm playing this incredible venues Tao Beach Omnia Akassan Marquis so and I mean I've seen I've seen Vegas to be honest I the first show I ever done in Vegas was at umpire ballroom I don't know if you remember the club it was a club

Speaker 2 off the strip.

Speaker 2 And at the time, there was no house music. There was no DJs playing in Vegas.
It was Selen John performing a bunch of promoters. So I remember I did

Speaker 2 the show Empire Ball Room. Gino, which is the owner of 11 now, used to own Empire Ballroom.
So they threw me over there and I'm playing there. Nobody, house music, dance music was not big at the time.

Speaker 2 So I show up there and there was like...

Speaker 2 10 people in front of me.

Speaker 2 But the funny thing is, Chuck Liddell was hanging out with me in the DJ booth with his girlfriend. He was high as fuck behind me.
I love that. And I was like, what am I doing here?

Speaker 2 This market sucks. It's like, what is this? And then you fast forward later,

Speaker 2 DJs on billboard everywhere. I got my own billboard in Vegas.
And then it's like DJs everywhere blowing up pool parties. And it's like, it's crazy.
So I really seen Vegas going from

Speaker 2 massive performer like Sidney Newhan being the headliners that now Stevie Okey, Fisher, you know, like Alesso, myself, like everybody headlining the big hotels. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And you said earlier, Omnia is like one of your favorite spots, right? To me, it's the one, Omnia is one of the best clubs in the world.

Speaker 2 I mean, the design, the chandelier that they have, the sound system, the crowd, I mean, I love that club. It's one of the wow.
Damn, I didn't know Vegas was dead like that 15 years ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Vegas is amazing. Holy crap.
How's Miami market been? Miami market is amazing. I mean, you know, I'm from here 25 years.
I've seen it grow as well. When I came here,

Speaker 2 none of the building that you've seen downtown, the skyline of Miami existed.

Speaker 2 It was very dangerous to go cross the bridge from Miami Beach. All the clubs were in Miami Beach at the time that I got here.
And

Speaker 2 they would tell you, if you cross the bridge and go downtown, you're going to get shot. Damn.
That's when I got to Miami. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So what you're seeing right now, Brickle, you know, Midtown, Design District, nothing. I actually got robbed, almost got robbed in Design District.
Damn. There was one plumbing.

Speaker 2 store that was in the design district. And I went there and I parked my car and I start walking.

Speaker 2 Two guys with guns like start following me because i was wearing a rolex at the time yeah and i and i caught it right away ran back to my my car i left and this is the design district now that you have air mass good shot everybody's walking around i almost got robbed over there like 15 years ago holy crap yeah well there's certain parts even today that are kind of dangerous out here right yeah but i mean it's safe miami is a safe city i mean if you you play around you know what i mean and and i don't think

Speaker 2 there's robbery everywhere but it's pretty safe i mean our mayor is amazing francisuarez is an amazing amazing.

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Speaker 2 Mayor and the cops here are like keeping the city safe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't think there's any problem in the city. I mean, there's problems everywhere, but it's a great city.
Yeah. The energy out here is just amazing.
Yeah, it's amazing. Everyone's in a good mood.

Speaker 2 Business out here is phenomenal. Business is phenomenal.
Everybody's in a good mood. I mean, the weather, you can beat the weather, you know, all year long.

Speaker 2 I mean, the summer gets very hot and humid, as everybody knows, but the weather, it's a very healthy city. I mean, as you can see, everybody's into the gym.

Speaker 2 Everybody is like uh has a healthy lifestyle here and uh

Speaker 2 it's it's it's it's a party city this thing going on all the time and then you know our basil miami music week now f1 miami it's crazy yeah it's nuts you you still performing in new york too yeah i do i perform in new york as well uh marquee um uh it's uh one of my residency um in new york i've been performing in new york i love the city of new york yeah really yeah actually

Speaker 2 two of my biggest song i made them in Harlem in

Speaker 2 a studio there. In Harlem? I did.
Yeah, Autumn. I swear to God.
It was actually

Speaker 2 the studio Mustard.

Speaker 2 The guy that did. DJ Mustard? Yeah, DJ Mustard.
It was his studio.

Speaker 2 I didn't know. I was working in that studio in Autumn and somebody told me, you know, this is like the DJ Mustard Room.
So I made Summertime Sannis and Molly. in that studio.
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I swear to God. That's nuts.

Speaker 2 The old vibe of Harlem was like,

Speaker 2 I love New York. I love the energy of New York.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was your first Grammy, right? Summertime Sadness? Summertime Sadness was my first Grammy. Yeah.
That's nuts.

Speaker 2 That must have been the craziest year of your life. That was crazy.
Yeah. That was a crazy feeling.
It was like I explained to everybody when I did this song.

Speaker 2 And it was like, I was actually on the way, finishing it. I was on the way from Miami to Orlando to play EDC Orlando.

Speaker 2 And I just finished it, putting the final touch in the car, was driving my tour manager to EDC Orlando, and I played it that night and I was like, wow, like the social media response of it was crazy, right?

Speaker 2 But I never thought, I was like, okay, cool. So I'm going to get my friend, my DJ friends to play the record.

Speaker 2 That was my goal. I want all the big DJs to play the record.
So I start sending it out, everything. So DJs start playing the record.

Speaker 2 Then gets release, goes on Beatport, which is a DJ website.

Speaker 2 goes number one on beatport. I'm like, that's it.
I made it. That's great.
This is amazing, right?

Speaker 2 Then radio stopped playing the record. I'm like, oh, cool.
Tense radios. I'm like, this is great, man.
This is, you know, I never expected that. And then top 40 radio stopped playing the record.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, God, now we got something big. And then fast forward, we sold 8.1 million single.
I don't know how many streams now we at. And then I get Grammy nomination for it.

Speaker 2 But it's not like, it's a record that was not planned. We did it when my friend Carlos Sid, which is the producer I produced it with.
We did it in two hours. What?

Speaker 2 My manager got the vocals, say, hey, I got the vocals. I'm friend with the manager of Atlanta.
Here's the vocals. What do you think? I say, what? This is one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I always wanted to do a bootleg of the song. Great.
Two hours, song is done. I go to the DC Orlando, play it, and see the reaction of the crowd.
That was crazy. It was nuts.

Speaker 2 But you hear stories like that all the time where like the artist makes a song in like an hour.

Speaker 2 It's always the songs that you make in an hour or two hours that become, to me, and the experience of...

Speaker 2 all my other friends that in the business, it's always the song that gets done in two hours that become big yeah songs that you keep coming back and working and working and trying to change it never go anywhere i mean for me yeah that's interesting i wonder what the reason like the cycle i don't know i don't know it's crazy it's like maybe a magic that happened i don't know yeah i guess because you're just truly coming on the fly you're not overthinking maybe you yeah i think that's what it is and it's actually i did another one recently and i told my manager I did it in two hours and it's like, it sounds like a very big, big song.

Speaker 2 And I did it in two hours. And he goes, maybe we should change.
I say, listen, let's not overstink this. It's working.
I tried it on the crowd. Let's run with it.
You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is that how you test out stuff? You play it in the cloud. Yeah.
So I, the, the, the luck that we have as DJs, right?

Speaker 2 It's like you produce something in the studio and then you're in front of a crowd, right? Different crowds every weekend. So you test out the record and you see the reaction of the people.

Speaker 2 You test out the record. So you play a record that knows that work.
I'll give you an example, like a John Summit record.

Speaker 2 I play or David Getta record that works, that you know is going to get the crowd. And then you play your record right after and you see the reaction of the crowd.

Speaker 2 You see, and then you see the way, you know, when you do a record, there's a structure of the record. There's a, the intro, the breakdown, the bill,

Speaker 2 you know, the first drop, second drop, whatever. So you see and you see, okay, the structure is wrong.
We got to change that. People were not dancing here.
I lost the crowd there. Or it just sucks.

Speaker 2 It doesn't work. You know what I mean? So you see it.

Speaker 2 you know as pop producers big pop producers they make songs and then they put it out there and then, you know, and they say, okay, let's see what happened. That makes sense.

Speaker 2 Are you worried about AI at all? Cause there's a lot of talk about that. No, I actually embrace AI.
I think it's great. I mean, there's a lot of things.

Speaker 2 I don't think AI is never going to

Speaker 2 replace

Speaker 2 the soul of things. I don't think, you know what I mean? Like the human soul into the music.
But it helps.

Speaker 2 I mean, I use AI to like sometime, you know, sometime you like, you want to try, you take a sample of a song and say, I want to redo this song.

Speaker 2 So back in the days, you got to replay the sample or you got to call the label and say, give me the parts, separate parts.

Speaker 2 Now, AI can take the sample and separate all the instruments for you and give it to you on the fly. That's crazy.
So I want the guitar. I want the drums.
I want the snare. I want the vocal.

Speaker 2 And real quick in the studio, boom, separates everything. You take the vocals, you do the demo after, obviously, for legal reason, you got to re-sing the song.
You got to replay the instrument.

Speaker 2 You can't use the original production but you can stop producing the song and see if it works and if it you know what i mean yeah that's crazy yeah it's crazy i didn't know it was out of that i mean i mean ai can make you can actually

Speaker 2 i was with david geta at one point and he was working with google i remember on something that they they're working together and he was showing me like this there's there's an ai that you can say hey I would like a song that sounds like a Vicci that talks about this and this and and and the thing will will produce the song completely but when he played me your track I was like no you you produced this track he goes no man it's AI wow I say no way it's a you did this record like this is this is like a like you're trying to like he goes no I swear to God it's like I said I want a song like a Vici that talks about this that that sounds maybe a little bit like cold play and this and that and the AI thing produced the whole thing.

Speaker 2 It's insane. That's nuts.
I mean, obviously, you can hear that you have to fix some parts because it's very, it's a computer doing it. So you got to read, you know, but the idea is there.

Speaker 2 This is what's crazy. Yeah.
So it just makes your life easier. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Uh, how has social media and specifically like TikTok changed the game for you?

Speaker 2 For me, not yet, because I haven't connected with TikTok yet. But I mean, I see for artists, I'll give you an example.
David Guetta, my best friend,

Speaker 2 the song they did, I'm Good, right?

Speaker 2 So So he does this song with BB Arexa long time ago in the studio, right?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he tries it out

Speaker 2 in a festival and he's like, yeah, maybe one day we're going to release this song. Somebody recorded that song with video.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He takes the recording, put it on TikTok and does a dance video with it. And then

Speaker 2 all the influenza catch on, start doing the same thing. The song blows up on TikTok, like blows up, becomes the biggest song.
But nobody, it doesn't say David Gerard, it doesn't say anything.

Speaker 2 It just, as the audio blows up, David Gerard goes, oh my God, we have to put out this song. So they finished the song right away.
They put it out. The song goes number one worldwide because of it.

Speaker 2 Damn. So it was not planned.
It was not like, let's do a campaign. Let's pay those influencers.
Let's do this. It's just some random fan recorded him in a festival, goes, oh, I like this song.

Speaker 2 He was testing it out. Like I was telling you, you, we're testing out the records on the thing

Speaker 2 and blew up on TikTok. And then the song went number one.
I did a remix of that song that went number one on dance radio in America. Wow.

Speaker 2 And then his original went number one on Billboard Chart in America.

Speaker 2 So it's crazy. And it all started from TikTok.
That's so. I mean, it's changing the game for a lot of people.
You hear that with a lot of artists too.

Speaker 2 One song on TikTok gets a billion views and then 30. Yeah.
And you can't.

Speaker 2 And that's the thing is you can't, even if you're trying to spend money and say, I'm going to pay those influencers to use the song,

Speaker 2 it's not guaranteed. Yeah, you know what I mean? It happens if it needs to happen.
It's just like you can't, there's no logic to it. There's no strategy, yeah.
There's no strategy.

Speaker 2 There's no, I mean, I'm sure it helps if you pay an influencer that has a lot of followers so they hear the song, but it's it's got to catch some fire on its own.

Speaker 2 It'll help like short term, but for short term, but catch fire. It's like I just gave you an example that just started like organically, like and then went crazy to the top.
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 You still going to france a lot i go to france a lot in the summer um i um

Speaker 2 i do a show one show in the summer in a club called amnesia it's like the biggest club in the world in france that's the only thing but the french market is very difficult really they they support only french artists that are from France and

Speaker 2 it's crazy because the French crowd don't see me as a French artist. They see me as an American artist.
Really? It's the craziest thing. And I'm French from Marseille.
You grew up up there, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I grew up there in Marseille. But they don't, but since my career blew up in America, they don't see me as a Bob Saint Clair, David Guerre, Martin Solvik.

Speaker 2 They don't see me those guys or DJ Snake.

Speaker 2 I'm the guy from Miami. Wow.
Yeah. That is interesting.
It's crazy. They hold a grudge against you.
Yeah, I don't know if they do, but it's weird. Damn.
Are you going to Cannes next week?

Speaker 2 Film Festival? No, no. I never, I don't have time because

Speaker 2 the film festival always lands on,

Speaker 2 I think it lands the week before Memorial Day weekend, right? Yeah, it's May 18th or something. Yeah, I'm always busy.

Speaker 2 I'm always, it's such a big thing in America, so I never have time to go to Ken Finn Festival. Where do you do Memorial Day? Usually, Miami or Vegas? Memorial Day weekend, I'll be in LA, Zook.

Speaker 2 Yeah, normally I do Vegas or Miami. It's always like, you know, yeah.
Now, how has LA been? Because I saw an article come out saying the market is struggling there. Is that true? Yeah, struggling.

Speaker 2 The clubs in LA, I mean,

Speaker 2 Insomniac they have, you know, with

Speaker 2 Exchange and Academy, which I recently played there and sold it out. It's one of my favorite clubs in LA.
And, but it's hard. It's hard.
There's so many things going on in LA.

Speaker 2 And in LA, every time you perform in LA, there's always like a thousand parties going on. You know what I mean? Yeah, a lot of competition.
Yeah. So it's tough.

Speaker 2 LA is a tough market, especially for the VIP market, I think, in LA. I mean, you always hear like clubs that open in LA or restaurants and they last three, four years and then they disappear.

Speaker 2 I don't know why. It's always like it's hot for two years and then they go to something else.
Well, a lot of people from LA move to other cities too. Miami, Vegas.
Yeah, they moved to Texas. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you think it's something to do with blue states, red states? I think that's part of it. I think the state tax is a big thing.
Yeah, the state tax is a big thing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think the cost of living is crazy. Like to get a house out there, you're spending 5 million.
Yeah. You know?

Speaker 2 And I think it has to do a lot with the way they run the cities. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. 100%.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 2 I can tell you,

Speaker 2 I live in Aspen as well. Yeah.
And I live in Florida. So I live in the blue states and I live in the red states.
The difference between those two, it's crazy. Night and day.
It's night and day. Damn.

Speaker 2 The way the cities are run, the way the, the, and I have a business. I have a restaurant and a club, very successful restaurant called Madamousi in Aspen and the club.

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Speaker 2 Be very difficult to do business in the blue states. And again, I'm not into politics.

Speaker 2 I'm just telling you that I live in two different states and I see the difference. People, the way the people, I feel like there's a lot more Karens

Speaker 2 in Colorado than there is in Florida. You know what I mean? So that's what I'm going to say.
Well, also, Aspen is a baller town. So people expect it.
No, but

Speaker 2 it's a baller thing with a lot of billionaires, which you think will be conservative, right? They're all as conservative, but the city is run by liberals

Speaker 2 and the way they they do things it's it's really

Speaker 2 there's no sense it doesn't make any sense the way they they run stuff yeah when when you see the city the way they run things common sense you know what i mean doing stuff for people it's it's just it's it's very different that's why miami's blowing up though blowing up you guys can do whatever you want out here you know you know shout out to francis suarez and the governor you guys are killing it um so you're doing a lot outside of music too then yeah you got the the restaurant.

Speaker 2 What else you got going?

Speaker 2 The restaurant. I'm opening multiple restaurants.
I'm opening Delaray Beach, Naples next. I'm just growing this brand.

Speaker 2 I started this restaurant with the chef of Nobu, Miami that was here for 15 years, Jake Ethan. Incredible chef.
The food is unbelievable. So I'm scaling this restaurant right now

Speaker 2 in different markets. I don't want to touch the Miami market because it's too saturated right now.

Speaker 2 So I'm going on market that are booming, like Del Del Ray Beach, Naples, Tampa, like those kind of things in Florida. And then I have an opportunity in New York right now looking into New York.

Speaker 2 So I'm growing that and I'm doing

Speaker 2 also some acting stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you've been in some big movies. Yeah.
So you want to go that route?

Speaker 2 No, no, especially. I like music.
I just do it.

Speaker 2 To be honest, I'm friend with... Michael Bay.
I'm friend with Peter Berg. I've become very close friend with those guys.
And they put me in movie. I started by doing music music for movies.

Speaker 2 The first thing that I've done was Pain and Gain for Michael Bay, and I've done two songs in the movie.

Speaker 2 And he put me in the movie as a cameo. I was cool.
I was like, whatever. And then it became a joke.
And then Peter Berg put me and my friend Dave Gruttmann in the first movie called which one was it?

Speaker 2 Was

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 I forgot the name of it. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Deepwater Horizon. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 And it was the movie about the explosion of the BP explosion in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, I think I saw that one.
Yeah, it's a real story. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it was Kurt Russell in the movie.

Speaker 2 Mark Warbert,

Speaker 2 John Markovich. I mean, incredible movie.
So that was our first thing that we did. It was fun.

Speaker 2 And then I did Mal 22 and Pitcher Day with Peterberg. I became very close to Peterberg.
He's a good friend of mine. And he just put me in movies.
I just do those things. Like I'm not an actor.

Speaker 2 I have no pressure. So I just do those things.

Speaker 2 But my thing is I want to do more music for movies. I love to do it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's where the money is too. Yeah.
And it's a different process to making like regular, like I learned when I was doing music for Deepwater Horizon, one of the scenes that we did. And

Speaker 2 it's a completely different.

Speaker 2 you know, universe. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's completely different than making

Speaker 2 music for clubs. It's has nothing, it's very difficult.
What's the biggest changes, I guess, from the club music? Well, it's very, it's, you got to use a lot of

Speaker 2 real instruments, uh,

Speaker 2 orchestrals, you know what I mean? Like, like you gotta, you gotta build it. You gotta, it's, it's very, and then you have a music director that, that looks over you,

Speaker 2 uh, that, that's in charge of the whole movie. So you gotta be, it's just by, by the, by scene by scene, you gotta, it's very, very difficult.

Speaker 2 I could see that because movies want to invoke a lot of emotion out of the viewers. Yeah.
So you probably need those real instruments. Yeah.
It's, it's, you got to use real instruments for everything.

Speaker 2 And it's like, it's, it's just like, there's no,

Speaker 2 it's not telling us, it's, it's just difficult. I don't know how to explain it.
It's very hard. I don't think I mastered it yet.
You know what I mean? So I did it once. And

Speaker 2 I'm trying to get more into it and I'm trying to learn. But I don't think I'm there yet.
Wow. So you're still a student of the game, even at your level.
Yeah, yeah. That's crazy, right? Very hard.

Speaker 2 Because you're like one of the top DJs, but you're still having to learn. And yeah, well, that's what you have to do.
You got to adapt to stay at the top. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You can't just keep doing the same thing, right? No.

Speaker 2 It's a tough space to penetrate. Yeah.
There's a lot of DJs. Yeah.
When you first moved here, how long did it take to really get things going when you first moved to Miami?

Speaker 2 Well, I started in a different way than everybody else started. I mean, a lot of DJs can, you know,

Speaker 2 exactly.

Speaker 2 David Guera, Tiesto, those kind of DJs, you know,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 they started like me. We started as local resident DJs, right? We had to make, when I started here, I started playing at a club called Bash.

Speaker 2 And I was getting paid like $200 a night. But I had to make people dance.
And I had to, basically, if I didn't make people dance, I would get fired.

Speaker 2 I had to create my own following by the music I was playing. So people started liking me.
Maybe, Oh, I like this DJ. It's pretty good.
And I went to the bigger club and the bigger club.

Speaker 2 And then I ended up being the resident of Club Space Miami on the terrace. So we started the terrace in Miami.

Speaker 2 So I had to start creating my following and getting my name out there by DJing my sets and playing along hours and everything.

Speaker 2 When now you have to make a song that blows up to become a successful DJ, right? It's a different thing. So I became

Speaker 2 known as a DJ

Speaker 2 and then I stopped producing music and then the music helped me get to the next level. Got it.
Now you got to make a big song and then you got to figure it out on the fly how to DJ.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? So there's a lot.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of DJs that can relate, like David Guerrat, Tiesto, you know, some of the Swedish Sauce Mafia. They all started the way I started.
Yeah. Playing in clubs.
Now it's a different game.

Speaker 2 It's a complete different game. You got to make music and you got to go to DJs.
John Summit is explaining one of his podcasts. I was listening.
He was like, I was making 100 songs.

Speaker 2 Now we'll go see my favorite artists and I will give them the music, give them the music, give them, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 At one point, some of those DJs start playing his music and be like, God damn, this kid is very good, great producer. And then he blew the fuck up.
Damn. That's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 These days you need social media, right? To make it. I feel like without that, it's impossible.
It's impossible, yeah. But it's also, I see a lot of influencers that's trying to be DJ.

Speaker 2 Also, that doesn't work well for them. Like they have massive amount of followers, and they're like, Okay, I'm going to be a DJ now.

Speaker 2 And there's a lot of them, I'm sure, you see on things. Same with podcasters and podcasters and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 You gotta, you gotta learn the business, you gotta learn how to make music, you gotta learn how to make people dance. And it's, it's, it's a tough business, man.

Speaker 2 It's, it's just not because you have millions of followers. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 There was this actress.

Speaker 2 I forgot who she was, like, short hair. She, she was in,

Speaker 2 she was a hype for a long time. I forgot her name.
And she stopped being a DJ and she had no idea what she was doing. And at one point, she played.
I remember she opened for the Swedish Alsmafia.

Speaker 2 They put her there in Ibisa.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 she ended up

Speaker 2 a set

Speaker 2 with the Spice Girls original song, Inibisa, What You Want. what you really really want.
And the crowd started booing her. And we're like, what, like, what? And never seen a DJ ever again.

Speaker 2 But this is what I'm saying. It's like these people, like, oh, I'm a massive movie star and I'm going to DJ to make money.
Now, I'm going to go out there. But this is not, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 You got to feel the crowd out. Right.
I forgot her name. I don't even know a name anymore.
Has that happened to you where you got booed before?

Speaker 2 No, but I got people giving me the fingers on the crowd. Yeah, yeah.
Sometime, you know, like you suck, you this, you that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, once in a while, not boo the whole crowd, but you have those haters that come. I don't understand this thing.

Speaker 2 They come to your show and they just sit there, don't dance, look at you, gives you the finger all day, or puts the phone, you suck. I'm like, why are you even on my show?

Speaker 2 You bought a ticket to come see me and you're insulting me. I mean, it's like, it's they're just hating no matter what.
No matter what song you put on, they're going to be hating.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, whatever. What's the most memorable spot you've DJ'd?

Speaker 2 Like the craziest, I guess, uh, party or experience? I think Coachella. Coachella, yeah, yeah.
Coachella, um, Sarah stage.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 it was like the sunset uh set when the the sun is setting and you had the sun setting at the end of the stage like this.

Speaker 2 It was crazy because it was at the time that I had summertime sunny that's blowing up and in Coachella. I've never done festival where you have a change time, right?

Speaker 2 15 minutes set time when nobody, there's no music. They're just changing your stage.
And the DJ before me,

Speaker 2 I don't remember who it was, but there was like 200 people in front of him. And I show up on my manager.
I'm like, oh man, come on.

Speaker 2 I build up, you know, I prepare my set. I did this whole whole stage visual.
You know, you spend a lot of money when you go to Coachella.

Speaker 2 You don't make money at Coachella. You spend it on the stage.
If you see the artist, the stage that put in costs a lot of money. Oh, I thought the venue paid for that.
No, sir. You got to pay for it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. They give you a fee and then put on your show.
So that's what I did. And I came in, 200 people, and I'm like, oh, my God, this sucks.
And my manager is like, listen,

Speaker 2 trust me, you got a big song right now. If people want to see you, they have the set time.
They know what time you're playing. They're going to show up.

Speaker 2 Change comes up, 200 people walk away, the stage is completely empty. I'm like, that's it, I'm going to play for nobody.
So, I'm backstage and I'm there.

Speaker 2 I'm stressing out, I'm stressing, I'm stressing out. And then my manager is outside, and he sees people like start running into the stage, running into the stage, running into the stage.

Speaker 2 He doesn't say anything. He was, you ready? I'm like, Yeah, I'm ready.
I'm going to play for nobody if I come upstage. And the stage was slammed, packed.

Speaker 2 And I was like, Oh my God, that's this is nuts. So, basically, if you're you're hot at the moment, I mean, if you play Coachella, it's like you got to be hot to play Coachella.
That's it.

Speaker 2 And I was just stressing out because I thought it was going to be nobody, but people ran in. They knew the set time and they came for my show.

Speaker 2 And I have a legendary picture where I'm just standing in the middle and there's a sea of people with the sunset at the end. And I'm just in the middle by myself like this.
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. Was that the biggest crowd you ever played for? No, I played for a big, larger crowd, but it's, I don't know what it is about Coachella.

Speaker 2 It's like for artists, Coachella is such a like a moment. Yeah.
Like it's such a big festival and it's so hard to get on it. Right.

Speaker 2 And it's like, I don't know why that was the biggest moment for me. It's like a staple, I feel like, for all the pop artists, Coachella.
Yeah. I didn't know it was hard to get on that.
Is it like a...

Speaker 2 It's, it's, it's, so you get a golden voice, which is the people that put the festival. It's like, you have to be.

Speaker 2 I remember I had to do a show for them and I had to sell a hard ticket in a venue in LA, which I did to prove myself that I could done the show. And I've done it.
And they, they won't put you on it.

Speaker 2 Maybe they change now a little bit because I see some artists playing the show that I haven't seen, but before it was very hard to get on this festival. That makes sense.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you play all your sets sober? Because I know that's a yeah.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I have a shot at Tequila just to like, you know what I mean? Yeah. To get me

Speaker 2 going, but. Yeah, I'm always sober.
Respect. I went to one show.
I won't call them out on the episode, but the guys were hammered.

Speaker 2 And they performed like three songs and dipped yeah you can't you can't you can

Speaker 2 you can't have a career if you get fucked up all the time yeah there's no way yeah well dude it's been awesome anything else you want to close off with before we wrap up no i'm good everything's good we'll link all your uh your tour dates below and everything and your clubs yep perfect thanks for watching guys check them out see you next time