The $10M Secret to Winning in Sports & Spirits | Gavin Maloof DSH #928

Basketball is big worldwide.

You know, it's really incredibly big.

And you can find a gem over there.

It's a lot of scouting.

Yeah.

And it's like you say, analytics, but you really have to rely on the general manager, the person that's picking the talent.

That's how your franchise is going to win or lose.

It's him, the person picking the talent.

All right, guys, Gavin Malouf here.

We're going to start off with a shot.

Let's do it.

Tomisario.

Tequila brand you just invested in, right?

Yes, absolutely.

Thank you.

Wow, I'm excited.

You said it's better than 42.

We've won

close to 50 awards, gold, silver, double gold, platinum.

Our Reposado actually just won a Platinum Award.

It's never been awarded.

And that's bested show.

And it's never had that means that our Reposado is like the number one in the the world.

Yeah.

Wow.

Cheers to that, man.

Let's do it.

Oh my gosh.

That was the smoothest shot I've ever had.

Well done, man.

Well done.

It's really an incredible product.

You'll notice how smooth it is.

And even though we have the Blanco, the Reposado, this is the Anejo.

It's aged.

two years in Oak Cast.

And then we have the extra Anejo, which is age seven years.

And that's really incredible as well.

I mean, that for two years was incredible.

It barely even tastes like alcohol to me.

Yeah, and you know,

it's from the

distilled in the highlands of Jalisco.

And if there was a designation for organic in Mexico, we would be organic.

Really?

Yes.

Oh, so Mexico doesn't have organic products?

They don't have a designation

organic.

They don't have that title.

I didn't know that.

So that's a U.S.

thing, then.

Yes, U.S.

But if they did have one, we would be organic.

Nice.

Because it's just pure tequila.

We actually

have

more heart of the agave plants, eight heart of the agave plants per bottle.

And some of the competition like Casamigos and Patron use like two or three hearts of the agave plant.

Okay.

So it's all pure.

There's no additives, no preservatives.

It's just...

pure tequila.

Incredible.

When did this launch?

We launched about six years ago.

I mean it's a relatively new brand.

We haven't been around that that long.

That's why we're trying to do these podcasts and obviously your great show.

We appreciate you putting me on.

And we really want to get the word out because we say it's the best Aquila no one's ever heard of.

But here in Las Vegas, we have a really huge footprint with Bellagio.

We're in just about every account in Bellagio.

We're in ARIA, some accounts in Aria.

Fountain Blue.

Nice.

So Peter Luger's.

We have a drink that's in Caesars.

That's a very iconic.

You know, Peter Luger's that.

I've heard of it.

Yeah, I haven't been there yet.

New York, and it's very iconic.

It's at Caesars.

It does incredible.

We have a black cherry margarita

that will change your life.

That sounds really good.

I mean, it is my all-time favorite drink that I've ever had.

And

they sell like 10 to 15 cases a month.

Holy crap.

With one drink.

Just at Peter Luger's?

Yes.

Wow.

I got to check that out.

Are you guys in the Vegas Golden Knight Stadium?

We're getting there.

We're trying to work a deal with T-Mobile.

And like I said, we're just kind of new on the scene.

Yeah.

But we're getting a lot of iconic.

We're with Wolfgang Puck.

We're in Spago at Bellagio.

So we're iconic places and restaurants.

And it's just really

exploded.

And your family's been involved in the liquor space for quite some time, right?

Getting involved with Coors in 1937.

Yes, even probably, yeah, I guess it was 37, yeah, maybe 100 years.

Almost 100 years.

Yeah, we were, actually, my family was, we're from New Mexico.

I was born in Albuquerque.

My grandfather started Coors.

And we were one of the nine states, there was nine and a half states, half of Texas, original distributors for Coors.

So we were Coors distributors 75 years.

Wow.

And we were also in the liquor business.

We sold Jack Daniels, Bacardi, Robert Mondavi, Gallo.

So I have an extensive, I grew up in the liquor business.

It's in the beer business.

That's what I've done my whole life.

Yeah.

And that industry, how's it doing lately?

Because there is a movement towards sobriety with people my age.

Is it?

I saw hard seltzer sales were down quite a bit, actually.

Really?

Well, we, you know, we don't want people to overindulge.

We drink responsible.

Yeah.

And we never promote doing shots, 10 million shots or any of that.

We don't promote that.

This is actually a, you can shoot this like we did, but it's a sipping tequila.

So it's great on the rocks.

Like we say in the liquor business, Sean, we don't care how you drink it, just drink it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was never patient enough for the sipping drinks.

Okay.

Well, then you can shoot it too.

Yeah.

I remember once I went to an event, and what's that big brand that does the sipping shots?

Do you know the name?

Oh, of Fireball?

No, it's like a really expensive alcohol.

I'm blanking on the name, but oh, Jagermeister?

Something like that.

And they were basically like pouring shots for everyone.

Yes.

And I just downed mine, but you were supposed to sip it, apparently.

For the whole night.

Well,

I'll tell you one thing.

Being in the liquor business all my life, like I've been in, my family's been in,

there's no right or wrong way to drink alcohol or to enjoy alcohol, just however you like it.

There's no right or wrong way.

Absolutely.

That's what we say.

Oh, it's Louis XIII.

Oh, Louis XIII.

Okay, watch this.

So I had Louis XIII at my house.

I've never opened the bottle.

And then I had our extra Anejo, which we should bring him a bottle.

That's a seven-year one.

Seven-year-old.

It'll change your life.

So I did a taste test with my girlfriend and I, we did a taste test with Louis XIII versus our extra Neo the Seven Year.

And

I got to tell you, I couldn't even drink the Louis.

Whoa.

Are you serious?

Yeah, it was harsh.

It was that difficult.

But ours is so smooth and so great that the extra, it's styled after a lot of the great cognacs and brandies.

See, Brown Spirits Worldwide is like the number one liquor in the world is Johnny Walker.

That's the number one liquor in the entire world.

Not maybe in the entire world.

In terms of sales by dollar amount?

Sales, I would say sales of maybe

dollar-wise as well, because it's an expensive item.

So, Luis Cota, one of our founders, and then Steve Rice is our main owner, but

he styled this after all the great cognacs and brandies.

That's why you see the color of it, the Anejo, and then the extra Anejo, and then our reposado

as well.

And that's kind of how he styled this tequila.

So sometimes you try it.

It tastes like tequila, but it's something like when people try it, they go, wow.

Yeah, that didn't taste like any liquor to me, man.

I'm very impressed.

Impressive, isn't it?

I don't drink often because of the taste, usually.

Yeah, you know, Sean, I was never really a tequila drinker until I got involved.

I got involved with Commissario probably two and a half years ago, two, three years ago.

But I've always been, I always liked rum.

I was like, you you're a rum guy.

Rum, yeah.

I was a rum runner.

Wow, those are a rare breed, man.

Yeah, I like rum.

But I still like it, but now I find myself drinking these margaritas.

Yeah.

And even like Bellagio, we have the black cherry margarita at

the sports book at Bellagio.

And wow, is it good?

I got to try that out.

Yeah.

And then

we also have, we're with Kroger now.

We're just kind of getting the ball rolling, but we're actually in 42 states, going in eight countries.

we're going into japan

uh we're going into costco's and japan and uh costco nice yes yes so it's you know it's all coming this is it's like a big freight train crashing is this your main focus right now it is it's it's my main focus yes and and and we also have a brand that our my family owns called drink aid and it's it's a hangover prevention i've seen that

all the gift shots yeah

it's in grocery stores right yes i see it at the checkout yes That's you?

That's ours.

Wow.

So that's like the hangover.

Prevention.

Oh, prevention.

So you drink it before.

You can drink it before, you can drink it during, you can drink it after.

But if you have a hard night, you should try a drinking.

You'll be fine in the morning.

But we're in a lot of the gift shops, a lot of the casino gift shops.

Nice.

Still involved with professional sports, too?

Yeah,

well, we've been in sports our whole life.

We still own the Houston Rockets.

I was the youngest owner in the history of major professional sports.

Wow.

24 years old.

Holy crap.

Yeah, when we owned the Rockets, we had Moses Malone,

Calvin Murphy, Robert Reed, Rudy Tomjanovich.

We went to the

watch as we went to the

I was 24 years old.

Unfortunately, my father passed away, and I took over the team.

And We went to the finals against the Celtics.

But we ran into a guy, maybe you never heard of him, Larry Bird.

I've heard of him.

You've heard of him, yeah.

Well, we ran into him.

So we lost in the finals, but we had a losing record.

We had a 40 and 42 record and went to the finals.

Wow.

And I don't know if it's ever happened to me.

No, definitely not.

Yeah, we had a losing record.

So you were like an eight seed.

Yes.

Wow.

Yes.

So you beat the one seed in the first round.

We beat the Lakers.

Oh, is that with Magic Johnson?

Yes.

Wow.

Yes.

You know that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I know NBA.

So watch this.

So we,

when we played the Lakers in 1980, I hate to date myself, but I guess I will.

1980.

So Magic is a great guy.

Back then, it was a two out of three mini-series.

So we won one game at home.

Then we had two games in

Los Angeles.

and uh i was in the stands and uh

we played uh the magic so we were up by one point so magic dribbles around and he throws up a hook shot from like five feet and and gets all air which has probably never happened in his life yeah air ball we win the we win the game we win the series so i run down the court and i'm 24 years old i might look a little younger than you

i'm 27 so 27 you look like you're about 15.

but that's okay It's good to look young.

So I run down the court.

The security guard stops me.

She says, where are you going?

Says, well, I want to get back into the locker room.

I want to congratulate my players.

She said, well, you can't get back in there.

I said, what do you mean I can't?

I said, it's my team.

I want to go back and congratulate my players.

She says, yeah, and I'm the president.

And she kicked me out of the building.

What?

Yeah, because I didn't think to have

a pass, a security pass.

pass, or what do you call it?

Oh, a media pass or a media pass.

I didn't think to have, you know, I just went there by myself.

What?

And they didn't recognize you?

No.

Because I feel like if Mark Cuban was like, yeah, let me get in the locker room right now.

They would let him buy.

They would let him buy.

Yeah, they would.

But back then, it was a different story.

So I got kicked out of the building.

Wow.

Your own team.

The whole team, yeah, because I looked like you, you know.

So you couldn't even celebrate with the team.

No, I couldn't.

And then that was it.

That's crazy.

Wow.

And you finally got your first championship a couple years ago with the Vegas Golden Knights, right?

We did, yeah, with the Golden Knights.

And we, so after

the Rockets, we bought the Kings, Sacramento Kings.

And then the day we sold it, we went to see Gary Bettman from the NHL, the commissioner of the NHL.

And we asked him, we knew that MGM was building an arena here in Las Vegas.

And I said, hey, my brother Joe says, why don't you ask,

let's ask Gary Bettman if

expansion team, we can put one in Las Vegas.

So Joe and I, the day we sold the Kings, we went that same day because it's just down the street, NHL and NBA down the street.

And we went and saw Gary and

we asked him, we said, Gary, what about a team in Las Vegas?

And he didn't say yes, but he didn't say no.

And that was the key, because Gary's a straight shooter.

So I knew we had a shot at it.

So then we, Joe, and I went and we met with some of the executives here at MGM.

And also, we met with Bill Hornbuckle, and was all for it.

And

next thing you know, we went and saw Bill Foley.

He's a great guy.

And

one thing led to another.

And

here we brought the team here.

Here we are.

It must have been a tough process moving cities, right?

A lot of meetings and money.

Well, we didn't move because we were an expansion team.

So we didn't move from another city, but this was an expansion team.

It actually took us four years

to bring the team here.

And we went back and forth to New York.

It seemed like I was going every other week,

possibly for four years.

That's where the NHL is, New York?

Yes, that's the main office.

Joe and I would fly back and forth to Vegas.

But remember one thing, you know, a lot of people didn't think the team would ever work here.

And I've always advocated having a team in Las Vegas.

I said, well, why wouldn't a team work here?

A lot of people said, well, there's too much going on.

There's all the shows and there's concerts.

And then you have an arena, but we need the dates for concerts.

And I said, well,

you got 42...

42

41 home dates and you have preseason so you have a lot of dates to fill the arena and I said people are people they want us we we wanted our own team you know i've been here in las vegas for 35 years or so and the only thing that was missing in this city was we didn't have our own team right it's like having a city without a soul for real sports are a big part of that feeling of a city yes yes but nobody thought it would work because you know that hockey in the desert

How does that work?

It's too hot in Las Vegas.

They say, well, you know, we happen to be in an arena, so it's going to be okay.

The ice isn't going to melt.

Yeah, that's a good point, though.

I don't know any ice hockey ranks in Vegas.

It's probably not many of them.

No, no.

So that's kind of the objections that we had.

Yeah.

How good did that feel to win?

Because you were in professional sports for, what, 30 years before that?

Well, actually, it took me 44 years to win this ring.

44 years.

Yes.

Wow.

Since the Rockets.

I was

1978

with the Rockets.

So, however many years, I guess.

44 years.

Something like 44 years.

Some owners never get it, right?

Never.

Because when you're in a smaller market, your odds are way less.

Yeah, that used to be a lot of the

that was part of the conversation was,

and I think being in the NBA as long as I was, it was always we wanted parity within the markets.

You know, you didn't want

all the players going to the large markets and forgetting the small markets.

So it was kind of, because we were in Sacramento, we were in a small market.

So

I think it's good, parody in the leagues, because

you want where each team has a chance to win the title.

If you're in a small market or big market, you don't want just the big markets winning all the time.

You have to spread it around.

I think it's good for sports.

It's good for the teams.

It's good for the morale of the city.

It's good for the community.

We were so proud to bring this team to the community.

Absolutely, yeah, because the NBA back in the day, it was always, you know, Chicago, New York, Miami, and L.A.

Yes.

So do you think right now it's more even where smaller markets have the same opportunity?

I think so.

I think so.

Yes, I believe

they have just as much opportunities.

A lot of it comes down to drafting.

It depends on who you pick and where you pick.

The Warriors did well with that.

Yeah.

You know, the drafting?

Yes, they did.

They got Steph, Clay, and Draymond all from draft.

Right, yeah.

I hate to tell you, but we could have had Steph Curry.

What?

You passed on Steph?

Yeah, but I didn't make the decision.

Did you win?

Well, we had Tyreek Evans.

Okay.

Remember Tyreek?

I heard of him.

I don't remember him playing.

Well, he was rookie of the year.

Okay.

So the year, he was a 6'6 point guard.

He got injured.

He got injured, but he won the rookie of the year that year, but

he was a great player, but he didn't have the shot that Steph had.

Oh, so you picked him over Steph?

Yeah.

So what pick did you have?

What number was it?

Six.

And Steph was still there?

Seven.

He was.

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

Damn.

Do you think about that?

Yeah, I think a little bit about it, but

I wasn't really the one that made the final decision.

How much say did you have in that draft process?

Well, we learned long ago.

Actually, we

helped promote the Summer League here, the NBA Summer League.

And

we learned long ago when we would sit with our

scouts that we didn't know much about basketball.

Even though I played a little bit, you know, I've played

high school, not college or anything, but I played basketball a little bit.

We've all played it, my brothers.

But we'd say to one of the top scouts, one of our scouts, God, that guy could play in the NBA.

He said, oh, no, he's no good.

He doesn't have a shot.

And so

as an owner,

to

you don't want your your player judgment to to overshadow what what you're paying these scouts for that's why you have the scouts right that's the way you get in trouble the owner knows too much yeah

these days there's so much analytics too they have it they're probably using ai honestly with certain teams to find players probably yeah yeah like a lot of analytics and

but you know back then it was you know you get in get on the plane and you go to new zealand you look at a player there in some small town And, you know, we had Pejas Stoyakovic and Vladi Divats from Serbia.

You know, you found, we had kind of an international team.

We had Hito Turkalu from Turkey.

You know, he was the first Turkish player.

Wow.

And

that seems to be the new kind of trend I noticed with the top teams.

They'll source from Europe and get like one good player over there.

And no one's heard of them, but they end up being really good.

Yeah, you know, you've

basketball is big worldwide.

You know, it's really incredibly big.

And you can find a gem over there.

There's a lot of scouting.

Yeah.

And it's, like you say, analytics, but you really have to rely on the general manager, the person that's picking the talent.

That's how your franchise is going to win or lose.

It's him, the person picking the talent.

Think about it.

You can win through.

Free agents, you know, that's a good way to win, but really you want to build through the the draft and you want a core of players that you build through the draft.

Yeah.

That's the ideal way, but there's different ways to win.

And that's too slow for most people, right?

Because the fans are up their ass, so they're just like, we need to win this year, so let me trade for three old players.

Yeah.

And in basketball, you never do this.

You never trade

two or three good players for a great player.

You don't do that?

No.

No, great

is what you need.

You need an all-star, you need like maybe one or two all-stars on the team, and then maybe a great role player.

But

you can't replace great.

You could have two or three, very good players, really good players, but they don't replace great.

Because a person that's great is going to make the people around them great.

Interesting.

But can you go from good to great just training over time or no?

You can.

I think some people,

some...

players can.

Depends on how hard they work.

I mean, if they have that work ethic in them, and if they really take it, they can make themselves better.

And then, you know,

on the contrary, a great player that doesn't do anything will still have the talent, but he won't maximize his potential.

That makes sense.

Any sports you got your eye on now?

Pickleball is pretty hot right now.

Well, yeah, that you mentioned that.

Actually, we're part owner of the

this team called the Las Vegas Smash, which is Paddleball.

Okay.

Paddleball, which is on fire.

Really?

Paddleball's on fire?

Yeah, I haven't seen it.

We just had our owner, Henry Strausser, and we just had an event in Miami where we won the championship again, or we won a tournament.

But we had 800,000 viewers on YouTube.

What?

For paddleball?

Yes.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

And I don't know if you've seen it?

No, I don't even know how it's played.

I heard of it.

It's like tennis on steroids.

It's played within three walls.

And it's like racquetball and tennis and it's it's very exciting.

I mean they're great athletes.

It's very popular in Argentina and

Venezuela and

Mexico and Europe.

It's very popular and

it's really a great sport.

You should check it out sometime.

I will, I will.

Maybe even play it if you like.

I don't know if you're a tennis player.

I used to play tennis.

Oh, you did?

Yeah.

Because a lot of tennis players going into paddleball.

Okay.

There's paddleball courts here that you might be able to do.

Really?

I'll check it out.

You'd be a great, great workout for you.

Yeah, I'm super competitive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like it.

You didn't play basketball at all.

I play basketball, yeah.

I got a game tonight.

But I like being well-rounded because a lot of people put all their equity in one sport, and then you see them play something else, and they're just terrible.

But I could play like decent out everything.

Well, if you play tennis, you can play this paddleball.

And you hit it off the back wall.

Because I played a lot of racquetball.

Yeah.

That's what

my shoulders are messed up.

But I played a lot of racquetball, but it's like racquetball where you hit the ball off the back wall and

the serve is not small, but you have long rallies.

You should check it out.

Take it off the side walls.

Yeah, I'll be decent at it, I think.

I was a wall ball champ in elementary school.

Oh, really?

You ever play wall ball?

Is that like handball?

Kind of.

You throw it at the wall, and then if it hits your body, you got to run to the wall and tag it.

And if someone throws the ball before you tag it, you're out.

No, I've never heard that.

You never played that?

Oh, man.

No, I've never heard of that.

That was a fun game.

Did you play kickball?

No, I never played kickball.

What?

What did you play growing up?

Football.

Okay.

Right in like elementary, you were playing football?

Oh, yeah.

That's a contact sport.

Yeah.

What's the little guys?

What do they call them?

Well, I forget the name.

Little league.

Little league for football.

Okay.

You know, they had a name like that.

I used to watch a little league baseball thing every year.

Oh, you did?

On TV, yeah.

That was fun to watch.

Yeah, I love sports, man.

So you see that sport as like the next big thing, though?

Yes, I do, yes.

Because

it's pickleball on steroids.

But pickleballs, well, we say pickleball is a game, but paddleball is a sport.

I mean, it's competitive and some great athletes.

Like I said, a lot of tennis players are playing because once you're through with tennis, you know, what do you...

You know, you can't play competitive tennis.

What do you do to kind of stay in shape?

And it's really a lot of fun.

I'll check it out.

Pickleball is fun to play, but watching it's not that interesting for some reason to me.

No, but it's really popular.

I mean, it blew up.

But see, paddleball is huge worldwide.

It's just now getting in the States, in the United States.

And there's 10 teams, and we have the Las Vegas Smash, which we won the title.

When we won the championship for the Knights, the next day we won the championship for the paddle.

Oh, wow.

So now you're just racking in these tournaments.

I'm just racking in the

44 years.

It only took me.

Did you ever think that you'd just not win after 40 years?

Yes.

That's a long time.

Yes.

I mean, that's double my age.

That's crazy.

Yes.

And you know, Sean,

what's crazy is it's so difficult to win a championship.

I mean, it's literally impossible.

I mean, almost impossible.

Yeah, because you're facing the best people in the world.

Best people in the world.

You got 31 other teams to compete against.

Everything has to go right.

You know, you have to.

No injuries.

No injuries, yeah.

I noticed the teams that got injured in the playoffs, they'll lose, even though they're better.

Yes.

It comes down to that, right?

Did you have the Chiefs?

Did you like the Chiefs for the Super Bowl or did you?

I had the Chiefs.

I didn't bet on it, but yeah.

It's hard to bet against Mahomes, man.

Yeah.

Like, he's got three already at his age.

He might pass Brady if he wins a couple more.

Yeah.

Which I never thought Brady would be past this soon, at least.

Yes.

He's something else, Mahomes.

How do you beat him?

And even the Niners looked great last night.

They looked great too.

Yeah, there's a lot of good teams.

How are you feeling about our team this year?

Well,

we hope we do better.

I mean, we had a tough game, but I like the coach.

Yeah.

And then Mark's a great friend of mine.

So I love Mark, and he'll get it going.

Football's

ruthless.

The turnovers for coaches in the NFL must be the highest in any league, right?

Seems like every year there's there's like five or ten of them getting fired.

Yes, because it's like you said,

the fans, they get, you know, they want to win now.

You don't blame them, but

it's, you have to, like I said, you know, they got him in the draft, Mahomes.

Right.

No one ever thought he would.

Wow, they got Mahomes?

Yeah, I mean, you know, the Chiefs,

they drafted him, right?

I don't know.

Yeah, they drafted Mahomes

from Texas Tech.

So, I mean, who would have thought he would be what he is?

Yeah.

He's fantastic.

There's some good quarterbacks coming up.

I think this Caleb Williams, he looks pretty good.

He looks good, yeah.

But he's still a rookie.

You know, he's got to temper it a little bit.

Takes a while.

It takes a while to get acclimated.

Even like I was telling my friends the other night with Aaron Rodgers, good guy, but it's going to take him a little while, too.

He played really good for a few minutes, but

it takes time.

Yeah.

I'm I'm a hopeful Jets and Giants fan.

Oh, you are.

I grew up in Jersey, so.

Oh, you did.

Yeah, try to root for the local teams because Jersey didn't have a football team, and we lost the Nets, so they went to Brooklyn.

Yes.

So we didn't really, I don't think Jersey has any.

Oh, Devils.

The Devils.

Devils, but that's.

Well, they won a lot of titles back when.

Devils, yeah.

I caught the tail end of that.

Oh, yeah.

I think I might have remembered one with Martin Broder as goalie.

He was something else.

He was a beast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hockey's fun to watch in person.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know, the knock on hockey has always been, it's not a TV sport because it's hard to see the puck.

That was the knock on it.

But I think now with the NHL going to ESPN and TNT and all these major sports networks, it's really helped ratings.

It's helped viewership.

Yeah.

And now people are starting to understand the game more.

That was the knock.

You could see the puck.

Yeah.

How's hockey doing like viewership-wise?

Great.

It's doing good.

It's doing really well.

Nice.

Because it's probably, probably, I'd assume, basketball and football are like the top two.

And then

is baseball ahead of hockey?

Yes.

So baseball and then hockey's fourth.

Nice.

And is it big in other countries?

Hockey?

Yeah.

Yeah, you know, like in

Finland and Russia and

some of the eastern countries, obviously Canada.

It's the national sport of Canada.

Was it in the World Cup or the Olympics that just happened?

Hockey?

No, no, because this was the Summer Olympics.

Oh, Summer Olympics.

Okay, so it's in the Winter Olympics.

That was the

Winter Olympics, it is.

Got it.

And how does the U.S.

do normally in that?

They do well.

Yeah, the U.S.

does well.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, we barely won the Summer Olympics this year.

Yeah.

We tied in medals with China.

Yeah.

China's catching up, man.

I know they got some athletes over there.

They just have sheer numbers.

You know what I mean?

They got so many damn people.

I think that makes up for the athleticism.

Sooner or later,

someone's going to pop out and do something great.

And they're genetically programming some of those kids.

Yeah, they have like some seven-foot female basketball player, I keep seeing.

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yao Ming was apparently a

programmed too.

Yeah, and then we played against Yao Ming.

Oh, yeah.

How was that?

He probably went off, right?

Yeah, he did.

He couldn't stay healthy, though, man.

When you're that tall, you just get injured.

Your feet, a lot of the time they get that plantar fasciitis, their feet, or they break bones in their feet.

Yeah, you see it with Christas Rorzingus.

He keeps getting injured.

Yeah.

And Wemby's been staying healthy, but yeah, it seems like if you're like seven feet, you just get like his eye on Williamson keeps getting injured, too.

Yeah, it's just too much weight on your feet.

Yeah.

It's a tough sport, man.

Basketball.

Oh, God.

What percentage of your roster would get injured on a yearly basis?

All of them.

Really?

Probably at one point or another.

Wow.

They'd have

some form of injury.

That's crazy.

Yeah, you'd have uh

a lot of ankles you know a lot of ankles knees sometimes but foot a lot of foot foot injuries yeah and um not too many shoulder i didn't think too many shoulder injuries yeah mainly lower body right lower body yeah what about hockey how common are injuries in hockey yeah oh yeah shoulders shoulders hip flexors so that's more upper body injuries hockey yeah and then yeah then you get some some ankle but you know some knees but upper body because you're using your shoulders.

They take some nasty hits in hockey.

Oh, my God.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

And

I know, I just had a shoulder replacement.

Well, I'm getting a shoulder replacement on this, but I had this one.

Damn, from your football days?

You're still.

Well, no, I think it was from racquetball.

Oh, racquetball.

I don't know.

I mean,

I used to play hours and hours of racquetball.

Damn.

I mean, I was...

That was my best sport.

Racquetball.

I'm not big or anything, but I played football.

I played college football, but small college.

But I love racquetball.

We used to play hours and hours.

I got to check that sport out, too.

Yeah.

You liked the racket sports, huh?

I did.

And my sister played professional, not professional,

college tennis, Mexico.

Okay.

She had a scholarship.

And my brother Joe plays tennis.

Wow.

Yeah, so he, you know, we like tennis quite a bit.

They've done longevity studies on every sport, and racket sports athletes live the longest.

Oh, is that right?

Yeah.

It's something to do with the brain and body connection or something.

Well, here's what I don't understand because I don't know how these pro

tennis players, how their shoulders, how they hold up.

It's insane.

A five-set match for three hours, and then they played in two days after that.

Another five-set match.

And their legs, too.

I mean, I guess it's youth, I guess.

They must have some crazy recovery protocol.

But even Djokovic is pushing 40 now, right?

And he's still playing at a very high level.

It's amazing.

They're just their bodies.

Everyone's body is different for a different sport.

Yeah, I mean, LeBron's still top five in the league at 40.

That's crazy, right?

He was playing while you were at the Kings, probably.

No,

he played his first game was against us.

Oh, yeah.

His very first professional game.

Wow.

Was there a lot of hype for that game?

There was a lot of hype, yeah.

And we beat him that game, Cleveland, but

you could just tell he was

different.

Yeah, he was different.

And Kobe, you know, we were very close to Kobe, even though he killed us a couple times.

Yeah, you guys in the West had a tough.

I always thought the West was way better than the East.

Yes.

You guys had to go through Kobe, you had to go through LeBron, or LeBron's in the East.

The Spurs.

The Spurs, yeah.

They always always.

They had a dynasty.

Yeah.

Duncan.

Yeah.

They had like five championships in 20 years.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

They might be good again with this Wimby, I guess.

Yeah, if they could develop him and add on one or two more pieces.

Yeah, he's...

He's good, too.

Do you still root for the Kings?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

That's your team?

Oh, yeah.

They're looking decent.

They're pretty good.

Good team.

Yeah, I think they need one or two more pieces.

Yeah,

I think the coach is pretty good.

He's

a brown there.

He's been to the championship.

He's won it, right?

Yeah.

That's important, man.

Gavin, it's been awesome.

Where can people find you and find the liquor?

Well, you can go to commissario.com.

You can buy it at Lee's Liquor.

If you're in LA, you can buy it at Ralph's or just online commissario.com.

But we're in 42 states and we're going into eight countries.

We're going into Egypt, going to duty-free in Egypt and

South America, and like I said, Japan.

And it's really blown up, but have a try it.

Oh, please try it, guys.

That was the easiest shot I've ever had.

Didn't need a chase or anything.

So, yeah, we'll link below.

Thanks for coming on, man.

And thank you.

Thank you.

Pleasure to be here.

Absolutely.

Thanks for watching, guys.

See you tomorrow.