The $1M OnlyFans Secret: 18-Year-Old's Empire Revealed | Jack Doherty DSH #927

Like, I just thought it was all a character for stream, but it wasn't.

Holy crap.

Yeah, because some people definitely put on a character.

Yeah, I mean, everyone does.

Like, everyone has like a switch.

Like, when the cameras are on, you just have a different type of energy, you know?

Gotta kind of act different and keep people engaged.

You think that's good or bad, though?

Bad.

Really?

Yeah, I wish I could just be more myself on camera.

I appreciate that.

I'm like a psychopath like everyone sees me as.

All right, guys, we got Jack here out in Vegas, and you had a fun day yesterday.

Yeah, pretty fun.

Got married?

Yep.

How was that?

Pretty good.

Sort of.

I mean, I don't know.

Low-key.

I don't know.

Wake up with any regrets or?

I don't know.

I don't even have to.

I don't know.

We got in a fight right after the wedding, bro.

We're cooked.

No, I'm kidding.

But I don't know.

You're young, man.

Yeah, I'm young.

Fuck.

How old are you, actually?

I don't even know.

I'm 21.

21.

Getting married at 21.

Yeah.

Wow.

It's like a Vegas wedding.

It's like a certificate.

Like, it's not like an actual marriage thing.

It's like one of those Vegas things.

It's not like real.

It's not legit.

Oh.

I'm not actually getting married.

I would have had that prenup ready by then, but no, it was last minute.

I feel that.

I feel that.

Was that a planned thing, though, or you just kind of?

Really just got here to Vegas.

I was like, yo, I need a stream ID.

I was like, you want to get married tomorrow?

She's like, yeah.

And then now we're divorced.

No, I'm kidding.

But I don't know.

It's just something everyone does when they go to Vegas, I feel like.

Well, you've been with her for a while, though, right?

Yeah, like a year and a half.

Is that your longest relationship?

Yeah.

Pretty much like my only actual relationship.

Never really took anything seriously because I'm just so focused on like, you know, my business and everything.

But kind of it all just happened.

Yeah, you've always been focused on business.

I remember seeing you in that Logan Paul interview like, what, five years ago?

Yeah.

And you were still making money at like that age.

I was amazed.

Yeah, it's when I like I pretty much started like making good money when I was like 13, 14, 15.

Yeah.

I used to study how Logan Paul went viral and stuff too, for sure.

He definitely inspired a lot of people.

Yeah, I know.

I would watch him and Jake growing up all day, and they would just inspire me, and that's what made me start my YouTube channel.

Absolutely.

Did you see the fight last night?

No, but I bet on it.

Who'd you bet on?

Jake.

And I bet on like that, I would go past five rounds, too.

So they both hit, yeah.

Okay.

I watched it, and it was tough to watch, dude.

Yeah, I wish I got to watch it.

Why didn't you watch it?

Bro, my girlfriend was fighting with me over nothing, bro.

No, I'm kidding.

We never get in fights, but it was just such a...

So you actually got in a fight?

I thought you were trolling.

Nah, but that's why I'm a little sad.

No, I'm kidding.

But

we never, ever, ever fight, like, ever, but it was just so stupid.

It's just like sometimes we just get stressed out and shit, and I just have a lot going on.

And I don't know.

Sometimes I feel like the people around me don't really know how to

interact with me sometimes when like, you know, I'm stressed out or like I'm dealing with a lot.

And I don't know.

Sometimes I feel like no one's helping me out.

And I have a huge team, but like...

I love my team, like certain people more than others.

No, I'm kidding.

But like, you know, I just need help sometimes, I feel like more.

But yeah.

Team's important, especially someone like you like a lot of yes men try to surround themselves around you I'm I bet you know yeah just egging you on no I'm just I'm very careful with who I surround myself with you have to be yeah if you have a bunch of yes men that's like the downfall of a lot of people yeah but I see right through those type of people like I already know like new people come my life I already know their intentions like why they want to be around me or whatever it is but so I'm careful I mean finding real friends for you must be really difficult because people want to use you for views and for money right yeah sort of but uh i don't know i just let them come across whenever it happens but i just have a really small circle and kind of keep it that way that's smart you're streaming on a new

site now i saw right yeah party.com is that a newer platform i've never seen them yeah so i got banned on kick and then like two weeks later i signed a deal with like party.com which is like basically like pretty similar to kick and it's just a new live streaming platform that i think is going to do really good What would happen if Kik on banned you though?

Probably go back streaming on there, but just push everything back to party.

You know, that's what I'm trying to, like, help grow right now and be a part of that.

Like, starting my own, like, streaming website, basically, and just, like, pushing that and growing it.

It's kind of my goal right now.

Were you surprised when Kick didn't unban you?

Yeah, but I was talking to Eddie.

He said he's going to unban me.

So, just waiting for that to happen.

But, yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of crazy that I'm still banned.

But, you know, I get it.

It's whatever.

You know, everything happens for a reason in life.

And it's a wake-up call, and I got to learn from it.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not tripping.

Seems like every day there's a ban there.

Yeah, they definitely got a lot, like, tighter about everything in the past, like, year, but I feel like it's just what they have to do because they've just grown so big, you know?

Yeah, I mean, the big one right now is the Aiden ban.

That happened a couple of days ago, right?

Oh, he's banned?

I believe he got banned.

You didn't see this?

No.

What?

Yeah, he got banned.

Kai Sinat's trying to get him back on Twitch now.

Damn.

Yeah.

I didn't know.

I thought you were really up to date with all the streamers.

No, I am, but I've just been away this past couple days.

I've just been filming non-stop.

I haven't been looking at my phone.

Oh, I feel that.

Yeah, Fousey got banned too, I believe.

That's like he gets banned every day.

He's like a nutcase.

Like, he gets banned on kick and then gets banned the other day, but like, crashes out 10 times harder than anything I did.

But hey, he's just, he's funny, but he's like actually insane.

Yeah.

I mean, you did some collabs with him.

Was he like that off-camera too?

Yeah.

Like, he's genuinely like, I didn't believe it until I saw it.

But yeah, I mean, I never really met him like that.

And then we did that stream like a year ago, and then all that shit happened.

Then he ended up getting sent to a mental hospital for 77 days.

But I just thought it was all a character for stream, but it wasn't holy crap yeah because some people definitely put on a character yeah i mean everyone does like i everyone has like a switch like when the cameras are on you just have a different type of energy you know that they're kind of active for and keep people engaged you think that's good or bad though bad really yeah i wish i could just be more myself on camera oh i appreciate that like a psychopath like everyone sees me as

I mean, I feel like you do it to build an audience, like the Jake Paul formula, right?

Yeah, basically.

I mean, it's kind of the

exact same thing you did, like, but, you know, at the end of the day, I got to use all the engagement I have to push a more positive narrative of myself and just do better things, which I'm working on.

But, you know, there's obviously little hiccups in the road because I live stream every second of my life.

So, obviously, all my fuck-ups are going to be broadcasted live to just be, you know, shitted on everywhere.

But, yeah, I mean, it just.

makes me learn from everything more because I know everyone fucks up a lot off camera, but I'd be live streaming absolutely everything I do.

So, you know, everything I do just gets thrown right back in my face or taken the wrong way or whatever whatever it is, you know?

But I got to just keep learning from it.

Yeah, you can't hide anything if you're live streaming 24-7.

Yeah.

And Kai's doing that right now for a month straight.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Dude, that's nuts.

Even when he sleeps, showers.

Bro, I don't know how he does it.

I couldn't do that.

The invasion of privacy is just like.

There's just like not, never being able to have a break is like what really does it.

It's just not being able to step off camera and just like turn yourself off is what.

Makes you just crash out.

Yeah.

That's why like Foocey acts like that.

That's why, I don't know, people are just too much of that.

Like, the camera just makes you go crazy.

No, everyone, dude.

I remember when Logan was vlogging every day.

He went crazy near the one-year mark or whatever.

Yeah.

So you got to be careful.

Yeah.

Shit.

Do you stream every day?

I stream, like, basically every day, sometimes every day, but like at least like four times a week, probably five times a week.

Jeez.

And how often are you planning like what's going on the stream?

Is that like a daily thing?

I try to plan as much as possible, but it gets like stressful.

You know, if you have a stream, like if you're doing 10 hour streams a day, it's hard to plan every hour of your stream, especially if you're doing it every day.

So a lot of stuff just kind of happens as like as it happens and it's like unplanned but kind of just go about it and just film my life what what type of content gets the most views for you

i mean i don't even know i guess whenever i crash a mclare

i wasn't gonna bring it up unless you did

that one got how many views did that get i don't even know like probably like billions like that's everywhere you can't escape that right yeah i have like like because it was on the news so it just hits a whole different like you know demographic of people like like even like old people and shit know about it and they'd be like yo, you're that guy that crashed at McLaren.

I'm like, yep, thank you reminding me.

Yeah.

When you look at how you handle that situation and you look at all the people talking about it like what goes through your head?

Yeah, I mean, that's the type of shit I really like looking back on my live streams and like trying to learn from like dang I shouldn't have gone about it like that and I just look at it and cringe like why did I do it like that?

But you know when you're in the moment you don't think like how can I make myself look the best or whatever you know you kind of just act how you'd act and I was just like all right my filmmer's okay like I realized he was good like we're best friends like I don't need to be like, Are you okay?

Are you okay?

Like, we looked at each other, realized we're okay, and we're just trying to like save our lives and break out of this McLaren, you know?

Yeah, but like, yeah, I mean, then I'm like, All right, let's just film it.

Like, he was filming before I even started filming.

Like, he pulled out his phone and started filming because he just, that's what we're used to.

Like, we'd been doing this for years, like, this is all we like, all we do, and yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, like, I shouldn't act like that.

And

yeah, you know, I realized I didn't need to act like that.

I'm just so

I just sometimes get so caught up in like everything I be doing, and I just lose like sense of reality and I think I just needed a little wake-up call right there and

just humbled me a little bit.

Damn.

Well, at least you can look back and reflect on it, right?

Yeah, but I mean, I guess that's the whole point, you know, instead of just keep fucking up, I got to learn from it.

Yeah.

Do you think that was kind of the final nail in the coffin for you?

I mean, not really.

I'd probably fuck up more, but like,

hopefully not, you know.

At the end of the day, it's a car accident and an accident's an accident.

You know, people get in accidents, but fortunately, it was live streamed, you know?

Yeah.

how fast were you going i crashed at like 39 miles per hour that's what it said on the dash which isn't bad like

thank god like you know because i'm in a mclaren like obviously i'll be driving that shit way faster so i'm just glad i crashed at 40 miles per hour and not like a hundred yeah because you're on the highway right yeah so it could have been worse could have been 70 80 yeah easily and it was raining but yeah that's why i crashed the hydro plane right yeah yeah you can't even react to that that's just like yeah i mean like i that's happened to me like a little bit before and i always like gained control but like, nothing like that.

Like, that was, that was crazy.

Like, I know how to drive those cars, you know, like have a bunch of them.

Like, that's all I do.

So, it's like, I have a lot of practice with it.

So, that stuff would never happen, but it's just like when you're a hydro plane, you have no control over your car, especially in a McLaren.

Like, those cars are the worst to begin with.

I haven't heard the best things about McLaren's, actually.

How many cars do you have right now?

I think, like, seven or eight.

Jeez, and you're 21.

Yeah, I want to get rid of them.

Really?

After that incident?

Yeah, I'm so done.

I'm probably going to crash another one.

You probably have PTSD, right?

You probably don't even want to drive.

I don't drive anymore.

I'm so done with that.

Like, I just don't want to fuck up again.

I'm scared.

Like,

it could have gotten so much worse.

You know, I could have hit someone else, or my filmer could have gotten, like, could have, who knows, you know?

So it's just like, I just don't want to ever put myself in that situation ever again, or anyone else in that situation ever again.

You know, I'm too young and I have too much going on in my life right now to like be fucking around with cars like that.

I don't know.

I feel that.

I remember that one streamer that was driving on the highway like all crazy.

I forget his name.

Hey, Squeeze Benz.

Squeeze, yeah.

That's the thing.

It's like I get banned on kick for like getting in an accident.

Like I purposely crashed my car or purposely, I wasn't recklessly driving or anything.

You know, it was raining.

It was the first time I ever drove my car not in track mode.

Like I was in like the family-friendly mode.

But like, yeah, I obviously unintentionally crashed a car.

It was an accident.

An accident is an accident.

You know, I'm going to learn from it.

But like Neon, on the other hand, like he was in that car with squeeze benz, like just weaving it out of traffic.

And he crashed into someone and did a hit and run and just dipped.

And then he gets unbanned like three to eight.

Like, what the fuck?

Crazy.

Yeah, I wonder what happened to that squeeze guy.

He's in jail, I think.

Oh, he is?

yeah, for that video, that hit and rock.

I don't know, but it's just like he has a ton of attention towards his name, so obviously, something's about to happen.

Damn, yeah, those videos are wild.

I would never get in that car, bro.

Fuck that.

Holy shit.

Do you do stuff with Neon still?

Nah, not anymore.

We were supposed to box, but he backed out of it like literally a couple days before.

It was insane.

You would win on that.

Yeah, for sure.

He's too skinny.

I mean, he's such a twig.

Yeah, that'd be easy.

Yeah, I've been wrestling all my life, too.

Like, since I was literally four years old, oh, yeah, yeah, so I like, I'll never lose a fight.

Like, I'm tough.

Like, he hasn't left his room.

How much do you want to get into boxing right now?

How much what?

Do you want to get into boxing?

Yeah, sort of, but, like, it's just a lot.

Like, you know, the whole training and everything.

Like, I have so much other stuff I have to keep my mind on.

It's like hard for me to just, like, turn it all off and just focus on training for boxing, you know?

Yeah.

Like, even though, yeah, it pays good or whatever, but, like, it's like, I just have so much going on right now that I don't want to, like, you know.

Stop or you know lose.

So I just have to keep going on everything and keep the momentum going.

But I mean, boxing is definitely something I would want to do down the line for sure.

Yeah, boxing's a full-time thing.

Yeah, it was just the easy lick.

Like, I didn't even have to train.

So I was like, fuck it, let's do it.

That would have been the easiest million you ever made.

Literally.

Yeah, you probably wouldn't have had to do shit.

I know.

Dude, on the way here, I saw on your Twitter, you didn't get let on your plane.

Oh, yeah.

Was that United Airlines?

Yeah, yeah.

So what happened?

We were on our way back from Coachella a couple months ago, and like, there were these two, like, 40-year-old, like, guys, right?

And like, they were, we, they took a picture with me and everything, like, before we hopped on the plane, they were super cool.

They even let me, like, smoke a a little joint before the airplane.

We were like lit.

They were like super cool, right?

And then all of a sudden they get super drunk on the plane and then start acting insane.

Like I have it all on video.

Like we literally recorded all of it.

And then like all the passengers on the plane were trying to get these two guys off the plane because like they wouldn't leave us alone.

I was like, yo, it's like we had a red-eye flight.

So we're like, yo, we're trying to see.

Can you please just leave us alone?

And like they just took it the wrong way and then just started like trying to like baker and fight.

And like it was just insane.

And then all of a sudden,

I don't know, after the plane incident, whatever, like the flight attendant was trying to get them kicked off the plane.

And then then it somehow flipped on me.

Like, there was just someone that, like, wasn't on the plane, like, one of the workers, or like a cop or something that just knew who I was and just, like, wanted to, like, fuck with me.

And, like, yeah, he's like, yo, you're off the plane, too.

Or, like, it was insane.

Like, I recorded everything I know in those situations, like, not to act out because obviously, like, I'm the kid in the situation.

I'm filming.

I have a camera.

They're going to look at me in the worst way possible.

So, I have to, like, maintain my composure so I don't get kicked off the plane.

But no matter how respectful I acted, they're just like, some people just, I don't know.

That sucks, though, because you want a red ass.

You got to get a hotel that night.

Nah, we ended up up just waiting a couple hours.

I had to take a spirit flight home.

That was W because I literally saw the week before Lil Baby went viral for flying spirit.

And I was like, yo, this is my time.

Like, yo, let's book a spirit flight home and then take videos of me on the spirit flight.

So I had my filmer just take videos of me while I was on the spirit flight.

And that shit went so viral.

Jack 3 flying economy, this and that.

But I really only flew Spirit because I got banned from United Airlines.

So I had to fly Spirit, but I was like, yo, I'm going to do this and just record videos.

And it just went crazy viral.

Good old Spirit.

I saw a ton of people.

I just took advantage of that situation and made it a W.

Saw a ton of those clips.

I thought they were fake, but you were actually on a Spirit Airlines flight.

Hell yeah.

That's hilarious.

I'll do it again.

I hate wasting money on flights.

It's actually not that different from United, to be honest.

Really?

They're all the same at the end of the day.

Like, I don't even, I don't even care.

It's just whatever gets me there for the cheapest price.

Yeah.

I land and be like, yo, I'm happy I saved money.

So you got a frugal side to you.

Yeah, for sure.

That's interesting because you buy nice cars, but you do like to save money.

Yeah, on like things that like, I guess I can keep, like, you know, like washes and cars, like, those are are all things that like hold most of this value you know sometimes they go up but like on things where it's like a plane seat where it's like it's gone once i land it's just like there's no point in spending that extra money to me yeah especially when i have to fly my whole team around with me i have like 10 plus people jesus so it's just like there's no point in wasting extra money on seats when i don't have to yeah you got security you got the camera guys yeah your girl yeah that's a fat team so everywhere you go you bring you roll 10 deep probably like

Like if we go on vacation, like right now in Vegas with us, we have like probably 10, 12 people with us, maybe more.

Dude, that's like 5K in flights and hotels and stuff.

Yeah, it's cooked.

Holy crap, you're stunning.

That's why I don't travel a lot.

Fuck, everywhere I go, I have to bring a whole family with me.

Yeah.

But it's a lot, you know, that's why, I don't know.

God damn.

So do you want to grow the team or are you cool with where it's at right now?

I'm like cool with where it's at right now.

I just be getting, I don't know, if you add too much, sometimes you just get stressed out.

If you move too fast, you know, not everyone gets in place and you got to make sure everyone knows like what their job is and what they got to do every day before you keep hiring more.

And that's not even including all the clippers you have.

Yeah, no, I have a ton of clippers too.

How many clippers do you have?

Probably like 50 to 100, maybe more.

I'm looking to get into that too right now.

Yeah, that stuff is key.

Definitely helps.

You need it.

I mean, when you go on TikTok, all those viral videos are from Clippers, right?

Yeah, literally.

And they get millions of views sometimes.

Yeah, they go crazy.

Is that how you grew your streaming views?

Yeah, I would say so.

It's just like stuff that just happens on live streaming just goes viral on other platforms.

And yeah, I guess that's how people like start tuning into the live streams.

Yeah, because before the live stream, you were doing YouTube, right?

Yeah.

And you saw the live streaming as a bigger opportunity, basically?

Yeah, like about a year, year and a half ago, like I saw like everyone kind of exploding off the live streaming stuff.

So I just wanted to get into it.

And then I saw like a, like, Neon hit me up and then brought Fousey over.

And then that's how that whole thing happened.

And then from there, like, I just used that as a way to get into streaming.

And then I just never looked back.

Yeah.

What a group of people.

Neon, Fouzi, and yourself.

Yeah.

Holy crap.

That is nuts.

I think Neon is...

Did he sign a huge deal with one of them?

Yeah, he has a good kick deal, I'm pretty sure, yeah.

Okay.

Damn.

Yeah, I saw some of those deals, man.

Crazy money.

Yeah, it's pretty good money, yeah.

Did you sign one with Quick originally?

Yeah, I had a kick deal.

Oh, shit.

So that McLaren thing lost the deal?

Yeah.

But maybe if I get on banana, I should have it back.

But

figuring it all out right now.

Those streaming deals were the craziest deals I've ever seen.

Oh, yeah, they are.

Why is it so lucrative, you think?

I guess because it's just like so new and it's like hard to put an exact value on it.

And like, you know, people obviously think they're worth a lot more, but all those, a lot of those things you saw are like not real too.

Like none of those like $100 million contracts are really $100 million contracts, but like they're close, but like

the wording is a little off, whatever.

It might be like stuff in there that you can, but I don't know.

I remember, yeah, the XQC, Aiden Sign 100.

But basically the streaming services, they run ads on your live stream, right?

That's how they make their money back.

Sort of.

I guess with Kik, it's not like that.

I think they just rely on

their revenue from

the gambling website.

Got it.

Did you ever try Twitch?

Yeah,

I've been on Twitch since I got banned on Kik.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

So Twitch allows you to film on their platform?

Yeah.

I've been good.

I've been very careful.

I have not been driving a car.

Yeah, I mean, I'm just very careful.

I don't want to mess up again, you know?

Holy crap.

But,

yeah.

What's the next big stream or video you got planned right now?

Maybe the divorce video.

I'm kidding.

I don't know.

Like, I just got that deal with party, so we're just doing something big every month for a stream.

Do you do the gambling stuff?

I had a gambling deal, but

not anymore.

Those go viral, right?

The gambling streams?

Sort of.

I mean, they're all right.

It depends, like, I guess, how you do it.

But, uh, I'm going to do, like, an in-person gambling stream today, which is, like, different, but it's like better.

I see the ones with Dana White and like the Nelk Boys and stuff.

Yeah, those are fire.

Um, how political did you get this election?

Were you, were you pretty outspoken?

Um, I have that Trump rap Bentley, but uh, other than that, like, I try

not to piss people off with politics because you know how people get, like, but I voted for Trump.

I don't care.

I'll say it.

Okay.

W.

Trump.

Damn.

Obviously, I mean, I have that Trump rap Bentley, you know, I mean.

Who else have you voted for, you know?

But, I mean, hey, I don't really care.

Well, you're in Florida, so I mean, that makes a lot of sense.

They can cry about it.

If you vote Kamal in Florida, you're going to get, I don't know what would happen to you.

There's no point in voting for you.

You plan on staying in Florida for a bit?

Yeah.

I moved there like a year and a half ago, two years ago, because of like taxes and stuff.

I used to live in LA for like a year, but I grew up in New York.

Okay, I grew up in Jersey.

Nice.

I did not like L.A., dude.

I tried it for five months.

Yeah, like after a year, I was like, yeah, I got to get out of here.

Like, one, the taxes are just so high, and that's the main reason I moved out.

But two, it's just the people are so fake.

Like, everyone there is just like basically fake it till you make it and no one really knows what they're doing out there It's just like

I Don't know just everyone comes from everywhere all over the world trying to make it It's just a bunch of leeches out there like doesn't feel like home.

Yeah, I could definitely see that especially coming from New York where people are just straight up honest to your face literally.

Yeah, and then everyone out in LA is just like I don't know Yeah, New York.

I like New York, but during the pandemic, it was just dead.

Yeah.

Try to get out of there.

And then LA was even worse, dude.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

But Miami, you could do whatever you want.

So that's probably the best spot to be in right now.

I love Miami, yeah.

You ever do stuff in other countries?

Yeah, I've done some streams.

I did a stream in Dubai.

How was that?

That was fun.

That was probably the best thing ever.

You didn't get arrested, like, Neon out there?

Nah.

See, like, I know when the, when, when, uh, like, how to act.

Like, I know, like, not to, like, fuck up, but

unless I'm in Travi McLaren, but nah.

But, like, I mean, in Dubai, that's the only thing I was, like, trying to avoid was getting in trouble.

Yeah.

I was very, very careful.

Have you been arrested?

Yeah.

For what?

Filming a prank when I was like 17.

It was so dumb.

It was just like, I just filmed the wrong person.

It wasn't even anything I did.

It was just like, just for filming in public.

It was so stupid.

I thought you were allowed to film in public, though.

You are, but it's just like the people I filmed, like, it was apparently some like rich ass like celebrity family in like LA.

And like, they got the police to like arrest me, but then like they let me go like a couple hours later because there was like no charges.

It was just, it was like the craziest, weirdest thing ever.

Damn.

And they put me on probation for a year, but then they let me off after like six months because they're like realized I'm not like, I don't need this like I'm like yeah, I didn't do anything wrong.

Yeah, your parents are probably freaking out, right?

Nah, nah, not really.

I mean, it wasn't a big deal.

I didn't do anything wrong.

Like everyone kind of knew that, and I don't know, they knew I'd be chilling.

Yeah, I saw some video.

Your mom's like, uh, she works at the cafeteria.

Yeah.

At a school.

Yeah.

You plan on retiring her?

I would.

You know, I take care of her and I literally give her anything she wants.

She's my mom.

I wouldn't have a single thing if it wasn't for her, but I think it's important for her to like have that job to, so she's, you know, keeps busy and doesn't get into the wrong things, you know, because I just think it's good for her, and she thinks the same thing.

So, nice, just for you know, her own reasons, it's just good for her to have.

Who was that business inspiration for you then growing up?

My dad, my dad was more of like an entrepreneur, and he has like his own like roofing company and stuff like that.

And I would always see him like just hustling and stuff and just working every day.

Like, he made his own hours, but he would work all day long.

And so, I would just see that.

Did you work with him?

Not really, no.

my dad would always be like

like uh tell me kind of that i would just not not that i wouldn't get anywhere but like i was like the athlete in the family all i cared about was sports so i would never like help with anything outside of that like my brother was like the boy scout would always help put up christmas decorations and like help my dad with that kind of shit and i'll be across the street playing basketball like okay okay but he was like you got to start doing like manual labor and all this stuff otherwise you're never going to be anywhere in life and then I kind of just figured out my own way.

And he always thought my brother was going to be like the smart one and, you know, do it all.

but proved him wrong yeah are you close with your brother i didn't know you had a brother actually yeah i'm close with him has he been on your streams and stuff yeah okay does he do like social media for a living or yeah he does social media he's on his kind of his own side of things he's uh he has a he has a boyfriend oh yeah wow

so

that's interesting yeah i did not know that

only good at that then yeah yeah yeah that's all you gotta say there you still play basketball huh we might have to play if you you still hoop yeah i uh i beat uh little tj in a 1v1 a couple weeks ago.

How much you want to bet that you could beat me in a one-on-one?

You're tall, man.

You're fucking tall.

But

everyone underestimates me.

They all think they could win.

But like, I got energy.

Like, I'll keep going.

What if I give you a point lead to start?

You're probably good, bro.

You're hella tall.

It was stuff.

Yeah.

Like, at least little TJ, like my height.

Like, all these rappers, they'll keep my height.

Like, they're all kind of short.

All right.

We'll have to run some two-on-two then.

We got to maybe against Bryce Hall or something.

Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah, let's run that.

We could play out here.

That's amazing.

Is that your best sport?

Basketball?

I was like, growing up, I played like hockey, soccer, like baseball, lacrosse.

I played every sport, but I think the one I like I really took most seriously was like hockey.

And then I got into YouTube.

Hockey.

So you liked getting in fights.

Did you ever get in any?

Yeah.

Our team, I played on two teams.

We had a school league and then like a travel league.

The school league was like way more troll.

So me and my friends would just mess around and stuff.

And we got banned from the league.

It was so bad.

Damn, for what?

My friend fought the ref it was insane i didn't do it obviously but like he did and they kind of banned our whole team for it it was insane so he just made a bad call or whatever and he voted him right yeah he would crash out like no one gave a fuck about that league like they would just act like insane because it wasn't like no one like the coaches wouldn't like discipline you like that so everyone just kind of acted out geez but like the travel leagues like if you like say hi to the coach the wrong way they'll bench you for the game or send you home damn you should do some hockey content dude that'd be fun yeah i should low-key like start up a league or something i gotta do a stream with like a hockey player that'd be fire that'd be dope i like what uh i think it's kai right with the basketball league the little kids uh yeah yeah those are funny yeah you should do one with the hockey kids yeah that'd be fire that would you think you could still play yeah hell yeah so you were nice i got hockey set up at my uh house in florida oh okay yeah i got like a little fake ice thing and then i just shoot into the net nice what was your position i play center Center?

I don't know hockey well, so I don't even know.

Is that defense?

No, it's like taking face-offs and shit.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Nice.

well dude what's next for you out in vegas what else you got planned this trip um i think there's like complex con i'm gonna go to that uh

i don't know are you allowed to film there yeah probably okay i know certain uh hotels are strict right yeah i know they're super strict about like filming and everything but i got a proof of film at this one casino so i'm gonna link up with bryce and do that gambling stream today i've been trying to do that the whole time i've been here but like all the casinos said they need like five days like notice up front and like i'm only here for like three days where you going red rock uh we were were me and uh i was actually there last night with bryce like gambling but just off stream oh okay yeah yeah red rock's a spot man they're chill there um how much are you gonna gamble today i don't know he gambles big so i might have to go a little bigger but i'm just i gamble small like i literally bring like 500 000 bucks to the casino that's it yeah i i don't like losing money bro i just like making money i hate losing money damn so you really are frugal man i'm so frugal yeah i'll never bring like because it's just like what's gonna it's not gonna change my life i feel like at the casino like there's no amount of money like unless i bring an amount of money that I'm, you know, gonna cry myself to sleep when I lose it.

You know, there's no way that money's gonna change my life in a good way unless I get on a run.

Damn.

I just don't look at gambling in a good way.

You know, it's just like it's a losing game at the end of the day.

Yeah, yeah.

Your fans are probably roasting you on the stream.

I mean, like, how do you think the casinos afford to keep going?

Like,

they take your money.

So, it's like, just play whatever you're comfortable with losing, you know?

You're not going to win long term.

Yeah, I've seen Bryce lose tens of thousands.

He said yesterday he's down at the Red Rock, like $140.

Oh, my.

He's like, Yeah, I'm only down $110 now.

Let's go.

I can't stomach that, dude.

Yeah, me neither.

I'd have to be making stupid money.

Because I was like, when I was like 15, I was super into like trading stocks.

Yeah.

Like, that's how I feel like I got over like the whole gambling addiction was because trading stocks is basically like gambling at the end of the day.

It's like when you're trading options, that shit fluctuates like insane.

And like, I would throw in, like, I would be 15 years old throwing in three, 400K into one options like play.

like it would fluctuate like 10 20 a second it's just like the emotions you feel like especially at that age like just stomaching those losses losses and or wins you know it's just like the the influx of emotions just insane so i feel like that taught me a lot at a young age and like really shaped me up for now when i started making like real real money like i am now i guess like not to gamble it all the way and like

so you lost a ton on stocks i would say i kind of broke even on it like i i was up like crazy at the beginning like i doubled my money i was probably up like I put in like 400k when I was like 15 to like Robinhood and I doubled that shit and then I went back down to 400.

Damn, you had 400k at 15?

Yeah.

How did that affect the way you like, I guess, acted in high school with like your friends that are broke and shit?

I was low-key, like way more humble than I should have been.

No, I'm kidding.

Like, no,

I was good.

But, yeah, I mean, I never, I never knew how long any of it was going to last for.

So I was just super like humble and frugal and I never spent a dime of it.

Like, I was like, this could end tomorrow.

So I was like, let me like save and invest it all.

And I, I never spent a single dollar of it until I graduated high school.

So I had like probably a million or two in the bank before I really even knew what Louis Vuitton was, you know, know, and here I am crashing out and wasting all my money.

Holy shit.

But yeah, I was super frugal with my money.

Damn.

Because I would destroy a lot of people at that age.

Hell yeah.

But I don't know.

I just

stayed focused and just didn't get anything I didn't really need.

That's impressive.

And then you started going hard when you were 18.

Yeah.

And then once I realized, like, all right, like, I think.

Like, I figured out some other stuff, you know, like I went down some other business ventures and stuff.

And I was like, all right, like, I think I'm going to be here for a while.

And I know what I'm doing.

And I just was a lot more confident in myself on social media and I know what I'm doing So like now I can just go about things differently.

What was that first business venture that took off for you?

When I started my OnlyFans agency.

Okay.

That was at 18.

Yeah.

Damn.

See, that was before you were even like 21.

Don't you have to be 21 on that platform?

18.

Oh, 18?

Yeah.

Okay.

So how did you get the first girl to manage?

It kind of all just like happened.

Like I wasn't even like trying to make it happen.

It's like someone low-key came to me about it or like I was talking to someone about it and it just, it all kind of just happened.

And then from there, I kind of like never looked back and I just kept scaling it.

How many girls do you have now?

Right now, I have like six, seven, but I had like

double that at a point.

But I kind of just like keeping it smaller, just focusing on like, you know, just making everyone as big as possible.

Cause sometimes you have to spread yourself too thin across, you know, 20 people.

It's just,

I don't know, low-key, you can make more off six than you can off like 12 girls.

100%.

Yeah, you can't handle it at a certain point, right?

20 people hitting you up.

Yeah.

And then it's just like, you know, girls, how girls are and shit.

It's hard to.

I mean, you only need like a few good ones in that space.

I've seen some of the numbers.

It's fucking insane.

Yeah, there are girls that do millions a month.

Like, it's.

Yeah.

That one girl.

Oh, what was her name?

She just said she was retiring

the blonde girl, Corinna, I think.

I don't know.

Corinna cop.

Never heard of her.

You never heard of her?

No, no.

Dude.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think she made like 40 mil.

Oh, did she?

Is that the most you've heard?

I think Bad Baby made like 60.

Damn.

Yeah, like the girl from Dr.

Phil.

Holy crap.

Yeah.

What's the highest one your client has made?

In a month, like close to a mill.

Damn.

Yeah.

That was like one of the first months I started.

Like that was right when I was like 18.

That was the peak of it.

Like three months, four months into me starting it, everything.

It took off so fast.

Well, I feel like the timing was good for you.

Yeah, back then, too.

It was a lot less competitive.

You know, now it's super oversaturated.

Like, everyone and their mother does OnlyFans.

So it's like, you've got to be 10 times more creative nowadays than you did like two years ago.

Dude, I log into X right now.

It's just OnlyFans.

I don't even consume that.

That's so true.

No, it's annoying.

Even like IG, I see like half-naked girls on my feed.

I'm like scrolling next to my girl in bed.

I'm like, why is this even popping up?

Like, hey, yo,

it's the Explorer page, not me.

I'm just kidding.

It's the algorithm, man.

Yeah.

What platform works the best for like, I guess, transferring people to OnlyFans for you?

Probably like, I mean, Twitter like has the highest conversion rate for sure.

But then I guess like Instagram, TikTok, like those are pretty good.

But yeah.

Damn.

So it's still killing it for you, though?

Yeah, it's all doing pretty well.

Yeah.

Damn, I thought it got saturated.

Yeah, but like you just have to have like girls that just

are,

I don't know, just have like a name for themselves and are just doing better than everyone else.

If you just focus on like a core group of girls, it's not hard to have them making a good amount of money.

Yeah.

Is your goal with that business to sell it one day?

Definitely not.

I feel like it's a hard business to sell.

It's like you can't really, like, it's something that I just have to do more hands-on.

So

it's kind of hard to put a price on it and sell it because if I were to stop, you know.

working on the business, it's like, who's going to really be doing all the things?

Because I do it differently than most agencies, you know, like I blow up the girls every girl i start with i started from scratch and yeah i mean i just that's how i like to do it because like i know what i'm doing and a lot of agencies i just you know manage like the only fan side of things like i like actually blow up the girls and like provide them all the traffic and do everything for them that's a lot different than most people yeah yeah because most people just pay pages to post their girls yeah so it's like it's not like anyone can really like i guess buy me out and like do what i'm doing because it's like kind of use my platform and like you know everything to yeah that'd be tough to sell that's a good point my buddy does buy them though yeah i mean there definitely are ways like I could put money into just doing promos for girls and this and that, and there's ways to do it without even using my social media or whatever.

But yeah, I mean, I just choose to do it that way.

Do you have any

long-term goals, whether it's financially or for live streaming?

I just want to,

I guess,

have more time for myself and like my family and friends, I guess, and just not be so.

I don't know, I feel like I could just never take a break.

I feel I can just never stop.

And I wish I could break out of that and feel like I have enough to where I can just, you know, just be myself and hang out.

And,

I don't know, not burn myself out so much.

Damn, you need a, you need an ayahuasca trip, my man.

Yeah.

You need a bigger.

Whatever that means.

Sign me up.

You need some psychedelics in you.

Type shit.

Yeah, that must suck, though.

Have that feeling of like, yo, if I don't work, the money dries up.

Yeah.

I mean,

it's not even like that.

It's just like I just always feel like I want so much more and I just don't like losing the momentum.

I feel like I always have to be doing something every day.

And even if I don't, like, there's always either people like calling me or hitting me up that i have to like answer so i could just never really get a break like no matter what like i'm waking up to like 100 texts or i'm going to bed to 100 texts so it's like or calls you know non-stop yeah it's just the second i get up i have to you know go right to work basically yeah i mean you showed up here as soon as you got up yeah why do you think your expectations are so high for yourself

Because I know there's not many people in the world that get this opportunity that I have and

I don't want to lose it.

Yeah, I I can relate to that.

Yeah, it must be tough though long term.

I don't know if that's going to work out, you know.

Yeah, but I'm just...

The burnout.

I mean, I've been doing it for 10 years and like I've been, I've been fine.

You've never had burnout or like I've never taken a break.

I mean, yeah, there's times where I've like crashed the fuck out and I'm like, oh, the fuck this shit I don't want to even do anymore.

But like, you know,

it's just all part of the game, you know?

Yeah.

It's like.

You just got to bounce back and not let anything get to you.

And just I always just try to think positive and not be negative and keep everyone around me positive so i can just keep going you know because it's all really all about the energy around you fill up but yeah i mean if you just look at everything the most positive way and you just keep going because i'm i just try to like just think like i'm grateful to be in the position i am today and just look at it in the best way possible and never get like negative about it

damn no break in 10 years holy crap I did about six years and I was going crazy, dude.

Yeah.

I was going nuts.

The live streaming shit makes you go crazy.

Like if you do like if you start streaming like too much like you just you just turn into a whole different person.

What do you think causes that?

Because you think you're just trying to like get so many views.

It's like yeah, you're just constantly trying to just entertain and like never let a dry moment.

It's just like you just

I don't know.

It just turns into a spiral.

And then before you know it, it's just like you're like, where the hell is all this energy coming from?

Like I haven't slept in three days and I'm crashing out here and just doing all this crazy shit.

And I don't know.

It's just like, sometimes you just need to take a step back.

And I think Loki getting banned on kick was like the biggest blessing in disguise.

Like that's how I look at it.

Like everything happens for a reason.

And yeah, I don't know.

Wow, that's deep.

No, I could see that though, because if you're like doing normal stuff, you're going to lose viewers.

And then

you kind of have to be like doing crazy shit all day.

Yeah, exactly.

It's a lot of pressure.

Holy crap.

And that sounds expensive, too.

Yeah, it is expensive.

Because you got to like, I don't know, blow up stuff or do whatever.

I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, Loki, I probably spend more a month than I make a month off streaming.

Like, it it costs me so much.

You're probably losing money.

Probably, yeah.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

I thought you were making money.

I mean, not really.

I spend so much money.

What's the most you've spent on a stream?

Like fucking 200K.

What were you doing?

Maybe three, 400K.

That was when I had Lil Baby on my birthday party.

I had a company sponsor it, but like they technically spent 400K.

But like they was like 200 for Lil Baby, and then they put another 200 into like the whole like party, you know?

Wow.

But yeah.

So that was your birthday party?

Yeah.

So you streamed him just performing?

Basically, yeah.

And was it a good, you think that was worth it?

Or?

Yeah, it was honestly a lot cooler like before like that.

Like

on my actual birthday, like four days before the party, like he invited me to the studio and we just hung out like literally all night long.

And like that was like the best night of my life because I love Lil Baby.

Like he, I look up to him and like I just listen to all of his music like every day, all day.

And it just makes me like so motivated and shit.

So when I finally met him, like everyone knows, like all my fans know I love Lil Baby.

When I finally met him, it was like the best day ever.

He's got some bangers.

Yeah.

Did you film in the studio with him?

We got some clips and stuff, but it was like all unreleased music.

So

i gotta wait to like post it which was fire it was the best night of my life you might have to pay him for a feature bro i'm down y'all make a meeting company again that'd be legendary yeah for real well jack it's been fun man i hope you have a good time in vegas where can people keep up with you man hey thank you man i appreciate you yeah for sure uh what's the best way party yes sir party.com awesome we'll link it below yeah watch you guys peace sir