How I DESTROYED Destiny in a Debate – Full Breakdown | Matan Even DSH #584

Speaking of political stuff, what do you think about Destiny right now?

I talked to him about a year ago.

I was talking to him on the stream.

That one is a beta.

So you don't respect Destiny?

No, because when I debated him on his stream, I destroyed that one.

He said he's never lost.

He said he's never lost.

I guess he has short-term memory loss as well.

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All right, we got Matan here.

What do we got here, man?

What's going on?

How you doing?

Good, man.

What's with the sunflower trips or whatever?

No, this is just the David America's favorite sunflower seeds.

And this one to honor my manager, Varro Floring.

He is not able to be here with us today.

So brought his hat and his favorite sunflower seeds.

Nice.

It's awesome, man.

I love the hat, too.

He's not not able to be here today that's why yeah that makes sense sorry about that one you're good dude you're good i saw you just uh film with sneeko yeah filmed with him a couple weeks ago and then um released that one this week but i'm not sure when this one will come out so maybe that was a couple of weeks prior to this one yeah you filmed uh you followed him for 24 hours you hired someone Yeah, I had somebody following him.

He was on a,

he was doing streaming with his friends in Los Angeles.

So I had somebody on his location for a while, just following him up until he came to my location.

You catch him, you catch him lacking anywhere?

No, he was streaming it anyways, but I was just having somebody follow him.

Yeah, because I've known him before this one, so it makes it even weirder a little bit because they wouldn't expect that one from me.

Yeah,

yeah, because you've had debates with him, you've had debates against him,

and uh,

yeah,

interesting though, right?

Yeah, that was a good one with the David Sunflower seeds, on, but that one wasn't in that one podcast either.

That one, hmm.

You had Woe Vicki on, too.

Yeah, that was a little while ago.

Maybe I think I filmed that one.

Is this sponsored water or just water?

No, it's just water.

Okay.

Yeah.

This one's a sponsor, though.

Shout out to you guys.

Oh, that one is sponsored?

Yeah.

Who's the sponsor for that one?

Uh, aphora.

It's glass.

Who?

Aphora.

That one paying you for the sponsorship?

Yeah.

Okay.

How much are they paying you for that one?

one 50.

we got going on here

does that make it taste better no that one's just to honor my manager because he's not able to be here with us today and he really likes drinking and eating so just maybe he will probably enjoy that combination

if you're watching this david thank you no his name not david viral florin viral florin yeah that's his full name how'd you meet him um i've just known him for a while he's actually he really helped me in my career a lot recently we've been selling floors he helps me go viral so just that's how he got his name as well and a lot of other reasons for his name and just all the reasons i'm working with him just he really is an important guy i should connect you with him after you have manager no i need one man can you manage me this guy is not managing just producer or cameraman no just security producer camera he can so do you guys pay this guy salary the one because they're not on camera so i don't know how this will sound for the people but do you pay them salary do you pay them equity or how do you do with that i pay them salary pay them salary yeah because the manager he's not gonna take a salary he will take salary and equity but he will probably want um he will want you to do an LLC put all your business into an LLC and then give him 80% ownership of that one.

Wow.

And maybe even a hundred hundred thousand dollar salary a year because he will also make you do sponsorship every episode for his flooring.

He's going viral.

He must be really good at flooring, man.

No, he will make you go viral.

He's the Mr.

Viral.

I mean, you're getting a lot of views.

So if that's all him, then we gotta.

He's getting even more views than me.

You serious?

Yeah, because

he will go to your house, this floor right here.

Yeah.

He'll make it viral.

He's incredible.

This guy is insane.

What does he do to the floor, though?

I don't know the tricks.

He just blesses it?

I don't know what he does, but he just

legally obligated now for me to talk about that one.

Wow.

So you were signed to an NDA?

No, no, NDA.

I'm opposite.

I have to let you know about it.

Interesting.

Huh.

So you're

spitting those out.

You're 16 years old?

Yeah, 16 right now.

Wow.

Are you in high school right now i'm no longer in in-person school but a little bit online here um viral flooring yes this guy doing the work online for me right now

it's your full time on this

um well

do you want to just hold this one for the next couple minutes sure i'll even eat some for you yeah eat them just make sure the david logo straighten uh you didn't do anything weird to these right no nothing you saw me open them okay

dude i don't even know how to eat these actually

These are why, this is why I don't eat them because they're so annoying.

You do all this work.

No, because

nothing came out of that one.

Because usually, my manager is with me on all of the interviews I do, but he will go and he will just eat them during the interviews.

He's a big fan of that one.

He eats the whole bag.

He will sometimes bring two or three bags, whatever is

defined for the day, whatever he's thinking.

Must take him all day, man.

I can't even get one open.

God damn.

Yeah, I don't know how to eat these, but I tried, man.

I tried for your manager, so let him know I tried.

No, just hold it while speaking for a couple minutes just so it looks looks

like a nice promo or something for him.

Are you going to college or what?

Potentially, I mean, I mean, I've been to the campuses, but I don't think I will ever want to do education over there.

You've been to where?

I've been to the campuses, but I don't think I will ever want to do a real education.

Maybe I will go in the future to the campuses to create problems, but not ever to give gift in education, maybe to give education to others, potentially.

You don't like that type of education?

Potentially, but not the way that it is right now in America, because they're making you pay, what is it, two, three million dollars scholarship

for these liberal guys.

You got to get somebody like me, because I'm only going to charge 5% of that.

I'm currently working on a course right now.

It's an alternative to college.

Will it be better than Andrew Tate's course?

I haven't really checked that one out, but I just know my course is going to be incredible.

I'm going to show people how to really, they're going to start understanding how to make money the real way.

No four years in college, 10 years in my school instead.

And they're going to have a lot of legal obligations.

That's going to be a good one for me.

Yeah, because that's six years.

I'm going to make a lot of money with that one.

Yeah, you've got a lot of life experience, so you could teach that to others.

No, I'm not going to be involved with it.

I'm just going to have somebody taking the money from that one.

And then he will, if he wants to hire somebody to do some stock options, I don't know, failure failure or successful not really interest to me but he will just collect the money and then give that one to me and the manager viral

interesting you uh getting banned from any events lately um

trying to think i don't think so i don't think i've been banned from any place recently the game awards that one that one i was just banned from the the property

which is you know the crypto arena yeah i was banned from that one in the actually no i wasn't banned from crypto arena i was just trespassed from uh the microsoft peacock theater

but in i i i imagine if they did the game awards at a different location i probably they wouldn't want me there but i don't think they could legally not have me there whether but i probably wouldn't go it doesn't really matter i feel that

saw you on uh alex jones podcast no not alex jones that wasn't him no it's uh but it's i think his company that was one info wars yeah it was on info wars but not about american politics That one was like five years ago.

What do you think about American politics?

Just in general, or current state, or which one?

I would say current state, because it's getting pretty rowdy this year with the election coming up.

Not happy with the current president.

Okay.

I don't think that's a crazy statement anymore.

Maybe it was four years ago.

But four years ago, people really didn't like Trump, even though he's the great white hope.

But that one is separate because even this guy,

he's not able to speak in sentences this one

yeah he might have some uh some dementia or something i will i have been trying to get him in contact with the my manager because my manager if he is able to get him to do some book deals afterwards he will be able to take big time money from him

you should contact jay shetty he just had him on his podcast jay shetty had biden on yeah

or my manager jay shetty Jay Shetty had my manager on his podcast?

No, he had Biden on.

I don't know, but how did he get connected with Biden through my manager?

Probably.

Okay,

I'll have to follow up with the manager, but he's not with us.

Where is he?

Um, he was not able to make it today.

Do you think he's leaving you?

He's plotting behind the scenes.

Oh, no, maybe working on flooring us

potentially

something else.

I'm not sure.

Okay.

Because I have to keep him detailed with everything I'm doing, but he doesn't have to let me know what he's doing.

Do you think he's controlling you?

Oh, yeah.

That is the hat he's usually wearing on the podcast.

So, just doing that one is a respectful one to the manager.

Do you want to drink a double water?

Nah, you put a seat in that water.

You want it back?

There's a lot left.

I only took two out.

Wow, these guys need to pay us, dude.

No, no, just because of the manager.

Did I tell you about my manager?

He's viral flooring.

He's making people go viral.

I keep forgetting his name.

What was it?

Viral Flooring.

He can make you go viral for real.

I mean, you're good at that.

You got a lot of viral videos.

He's just the one managing me.

If it wasn't for him, I have a lot of just different life paths for me.

You ever think about your current life path and where it's going?

No.

You just live.

Just under his control, usually.

Just he's the one.

making rules and then he will give me a day-to-day schedule he will just tell me what's going on that one communism huh no not communism just because in communism they will according to what they want to do sometimes they want to make it equal you know what i mean he done equal he take all the money

wow

you said you're not happy with the current politics who do you want to win this election oh the great white hope

no doubt about it you should get him on your podcast oh if i could talk to him i will that will be that will be a that will be a good one for me to talk to him but i don't think that one is possible right now just because I don't think he's usually in Los Angeles.

What would you tell him if you saw him?

If I just saw him in person,

I would just say you're the

savior of the universe.

This guy will stopping nuclear bombs from dropping at least 500 times in just four years.

There was fear that he would start a nuclear war, but he didn't.

Do that one with me?

Because he was in the no, just what, four fingers?

Yeah, because he was.

How do you bend that one?

What the hell?

He was the president for four years, that one.

How are you bending your fingers like that?

Because he was the president.

That was the president up until 2020.

Well, he's still currently the president,

but he's not making the rules.

That's why.

He never lost.

He never lost.

He won.

Yeah.

If there's a reason this video gets taken down, it's election fraud.

Oh, no, I'm not talking about election fraud.

It's just even if he wins the next one and he's completed eight years official according to those liberal guys right now i will say that he is still the president just because he's so much better than all of the other ones

what's next for you where are you and your manager going to after this after this right now yeah um

i will probably uh

try to think i don't really have a specific plan after this probably

go home and um that's it not sleeping just going home and

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doing meditation of attacking and all types of different ones with that one

you don't sleep oh no sleeping is for betas

because sleeping because it's imagine

Sleeping, they're recommending what, eight hours a day?

Yeah.

And then the first hour or two, you're kind of drowsy and and stuff.

So realistically, it's closer to 10 hours, right?

And then think about it.

Then you have to do all of the morning activities, brushing the teeth, taking shower, breakfast, and you know, a little bit drowsy till after that.

That's close to what?

12 hours a day, it's sleeping or sleeping activities.

Yeah.

That could be half of your life at least with that one.

So I just don't sleep because then I wouldn't have the issue with that one.

I just get, I'm doing double the work everybody else is, and my manager is getting double the money because of that one.

Wow.

So you're working all day.

Yeah, the man, my manager is a good one.

His name is Varro Florin.

I brought the sunflower seed for him today because he wasn't able to be here with us.

That one is his hat.

Man,

don't you get burnt out working all day?

No, because I haven't been, I don't have, there's no energy.

It's always the same energy because I'm never recharging from sleeping because always just on the same level.

It's not, there's not a point where I will go higher in energy or lower, just stays,

stays at the same one.

How much plotting are you doing i know you read a lot um

just what am i plotting for yeah you're trying to take over the world

um

i mean depends it's a little bit of restrictions right now just because 16 years old

age is just a number

you mean that one you want to date how old are you i'm 27.

you will want to be in relationship with a nine-year-old girl no oh why not that's different well why is that one different i can

probably find a nine-year-old girl for you to speak with.

I'm good.

I'm saying in business, age is just a number in business.

No, but if it's okay, I can find regardless,

I can put you in business with a nine-year-old girl if you want.

So, there's probably a nine-year-old making money in business right now.

Do you want me to connect you with one of them?

I'm good.

I probably will be better off just connecting you with a nine-year-old.

Just that's not in business, just a nine-year-old, just a general nine-year-old.

I'll pass, I'll go to Epstein Island if I want to do that.

He finally ate one, guys.

Oh, no, he didn't.

Well, shit, man.

Anything else you want to talk about?

Your manager or anything?

No, you don't have any more questions.

I'm speechless, dude.

You got through all of these.

Because I'm just so good at speaking.

That's why I was, I've been practicing speaking for a lot of years now.

You're media trained?

Not media trained, just

you want to, you can just go to different country, third world country or something and then those people don't know how to speak english so if you're surrounding yourself with everybody says you you don't want to be the smartest in the room right

i've heard that so but i will not just want to be the smartest i will want to be in a room with people who either are deaf or muted have some sort of mental problem don't speak english don't have any money because then they can't even oppose what i'm saying if i'm telling somebody through a signal like do something they don't even have the opportunity to tell me no they will just be like that one so they will have to listen to that one they can't even oppose opposition to me.

Wow.

So you're traveling a lot right now?

Huh?

You're traveling a lot?

No, I can just bring these people to me because, again, if they're there for a mental problem, if I take their passport, how are they going to get back to where they come from?

So you keep them hostage?

Not hostage, just they can go to across the street, but they will find their way back to me to ask for maybe a passport or something, but they won't get that one until the work is completed.

Wow.

And what countries do you like to outsource from?

Do you want to hold that one?

Sure.

Sure.

Because that one was for my manager.

Viral wasn't able to be here today with us.

What countries do you outsource your employees from?

Oh, they're not employees, just to just for that one is more of a hobby for me.

Just to see, because right now it's been a couple thousand, but I've never seen one of them that's able to get back to where they came from.

I'm not trying to...

Sometimes I will ask them to do work for me, but generally it's just seeing if they can accomplish

something with the lack of resources putting people in tough positions just for the fun of it for the heck of that one do you think the u.s is the best country

uh no i'll probably say shimon shuban shimon

shimon that one was where i was born

interesting what was that like um

it was interesting because i was only there up until i was about

12 years old but just a lot of collapsing with the economy and stuff because they ended up, no, they weren't liberal at all.

They were because

the smartest guys, I'm sure you would agree, the conservative people.

You'd agree with that one?

Conservative.

Conservative Republicans, Alpha.

They are generally the smartest ones.

Yeah.

So, but the way it works, even though they're the smartest, is that, you know, the civilization, they will start off conservative and then they will go through the problematic phase of like liberalism.

That's where we are today.

Then they will switch back, right?

So this country hadn't even got to the liberalism phase, but but the economy was just collapsing because every time they would have a talk about foreign trades or something, they would just start shooting at people, or they would just

hire a spy or something, try to put a bomb in somebody's ear, or they have a telephone that's going to blow up on them.

So, that one was not working for the country.

The country is in a big problem right now.

Damn, a lot of countries seem to be struggling right now.

Speaking of political stuff, what do you think about destiny right now?

The

YouTuber guy with blue hair.

Oh, yeah, I talked to him about a year ago.

We did a I was talking to him on the stream.

That one is a beta.

He's a beta, or big time

because that guy is a

one-year, he's born, he had the potential maybe to have he's a quick speaker, you know what I mean?

People will compare him to Ben Shapiro, but he is a Ben Shapiro.

But if Ben Shapiro, the only one, he just wanted to look smart, that one, Destiny.

He just, because he will do similar to me, where I'm taking advantage of

people with a lack of resources.

But that one is off-camera.

I will just tell stories about it on a place like this.

This guy will debate those people to look smart.

So, you don't respect Destiny?

No, because when I debated him on his stream,

I destroyed that one.

That guy, he said he's never lost.

He said he's never lost.

Yeah, he's short.

I guess he has short-term memory loss as well.

Who else have you debated?

Who has been a good opponent for you that you thought was on your level to debate with?

Nobody, because I don't do debates too often, but even when I do it, even against somebody like Destiny, who is by his own side, those liberal assholes, he is considered to be one of the top echelon of those people.

It's just annihilation.

Just

not even close.

What about Sneeko?

You debated Sneeko.

No, but me and Sneeko don't really debating people because when I'm doing a, when I did my interview with him, it's not, we weren't really even talking that much political stuff.

And then,

you know, when I talked to him the first time, I don't really talk, I haven't really talked politics with him ever.

It wasn't really debates with that guy.

How do you feel about Aiden Ross?

What about him?

I mean, I've done a, I've met him before, but what specifically?

Do you like his streams?

Do you like his messaging?

Do you like him, what he puts out there?

I mean, I don't think he really has much messaging.

He's not a political guy.

And then I don't really watch too many Twitch.

I'm not, that's not what I do in hobby time.

So I don't, I don't know i wouldn't really have any recommendations for his content to be honest seems like a pretty normal guy decent guy i feel that what do you do in your hobby time then no i just said i will take these people and just see how far they can get with lack of resources no passport no english no talking nothing how far do you think you could get without talking

but they are one like hypothetically yeah oh i will get big time because we these people they still have emotion but i i will be able to just steal money from people's pockets go up to homeless guy when he's sleeping take the cup from him there will be a couple bucks in there I will be fine in a couple of days time wow just stacking up homeless people's money no well just so many options I could become a panhandler shave head you know so many options there just to make money with that one you would shave your hair right now no but I'm just saying there's one of those options you know let's say right now you took all my resources away and I couldn't speak I will just buy a wheelchair, shave my head and put a mask on, go to Santa Monica Boulevard and then just ask for money and then there's some rich people over there so they will feel bad i will say that i have mental problems sickness little kid and then i will make what a hundred dollars an hour at least from these rich guys some of them will probably offer me a job or tell them i you know i can't work i can't even walk i'm in a wheelchair just give me 500 and that one's easier and they will do that one wow i actually one of the things i was doing for business back in the day is i would just find people who either working minimum wage salaries or homeless whatever the situation was and then i will have them do that one for me.

Do what?

I will have these people go in wheelchairs and shave their head and put masks on like they're sick on Rodeo or Santa Monica, wherever it is, and then I will legally get 80% of their money.

So they will get in donations, maybe $800 a day, and I will get 80% of that one.

Wow.

So is that how you became a millionaire?

Well, that one is still going on.

That one's ongoing.

If you go to one of these locations right now, you will see these guys.

And then if you mention me, they're not just to leave.

Wow.

They would just leave the city, they will get up and walk out of the wheelchair.

So, you're like the homeless pimp?

Well, most of these guys are not homeless anymore.

These guys living in big mansions, big houses now.

They probably live across the street.

They are the ones with the mansions.

Damn.

So, you're living in a mansion right now?

No, I'm not.

I'm doing an experiment.

What are you doing?

I'm just, well, I don't sleep, so I don't need anywhere to sleep.

But every time I need to eat or something, and it's nighttime or something, and everybody else is sleeping, just go inside somebody's house or something.

That one will be a quick solution with me.

Oh, there's a word for that.

I forget what it's called, but interesting.

Because I do, I

go to families that don't really understand small houses or something, and I start getting

them confused on squatters' rights and stuff, and they just don't understand what's going on.

Squatter, yeah, that's the word I was thinking about.

No, but I'm realistically, I don't have squatters rights, but I'm going to confuse them with that one.

Don't have enough money for a lawyer, so I end up just getting to chill out in their house or their bathroom or something for a couple, couple of weeks, whatever I want to do wow interesting lifestyle man

you got a lot of uh friends your age you hang out with no

you seem too intelligent for people of your age oh yeah even for your age

a different level so who do you hang out with

nobody just uh really just i'm like a business guy

Any personal life or just business?

Can you hand me the seed real quick?

The whole thing?

Yeah, just the whole one?

And hold out the hand.

Oh, God.

No, I'm just going to give you a couple in your hand.

Don't spill them.

No, no, no, spill them.

But you got to hold your hand closer.

They're going to spill.

Bro.

That was because my manager was eating those seeds.

You know why?

His name was Viral Florian.

He makes people viral.

I should connect you with him.

Huh.

Wow.

Well, I think.

I think we'll leave it there, man.

You got anything else?

No,

that one's done for me.

Okay.

I'm going to connect connect you with the manager.

You should do one with me.

Connect me with him.

Anything you want to shout out?

Um, yeah, I have an email if you can find it.

I forgot the address, but if you find the email, just send it.

I don't have access to that one, but it will go to me straight to Varu Floring, my manager.

That's why I brought the hat because he's not able to be here with us today.

So he'll get the email and then he can check it out potentially.

And just

he will see with that one.

All right, find his email, guys.

See you guys next time.