Doing Toad in the Amazon, Activating Monk Mode and Studying from Shamans | Terry Kim DSH #263

Investors and to be able to go into that network pretty fast and build a network and then demo day.

These incubators are

designed to get you to a demo day in front of thousands of investors and you pitch for maybe one to three minutes.

That's it.

That's it, one to three minutes.

So you're working 12 weeks to pitch for three minutes.

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Today we are joined by innovative tech entrepreneur, thought leader, and soon-to-be published author Terry Kim.

We're going to dive into how Terry seamlessly blends spirituality and the principles of Kaizen across his businesses, NGT Academy, and his recent exploration of breathwork.

He's also been working on a new project in stealth mode with his 19-year-old daughter.

It is a high-tech sleep mask and it's designed to revolutionize how we sleep.

Also, he has an upcoming book, Zero to Engineer, offering insights into his personal journey and preventing a unique opportunity to you guys later on this episode.

Ladies and gentlemen, Terry Kim, how's it going?

It's going good.

Thanks, Sean, for having me.

Yeah, man.

You got quite the life, man.

I don't even know where to start with you.

But I guess we'll start off with just Y Combinator.

You went through that program not only once, but twice, right?

I went through that once, but I also went through AngelPad and also Atlanta Tech Village.

So I've been through three,

we call them incubators or startup accelerators.

And what did you learn from that?

What's your advice to people looking to go through that setting?

Yeah, so

if you're passionate about getting a startup off the ground, especially a tech startup, I would say accelerators are the fastest way to break through into that startup world.

My first learning was about 10 years ago, but probably 15 years ago when Tim Ferris wrote that book, Four Hour Workweek,

he was investing into a lot of startups.

And I was an engineer at the time, infrastructure network engineer.

And I was like, wow, I want to get into this tech world.

So at the height of my career at Cisco Systems as an engineer, I quit my corporate job and dove into the world of startups.

So it's been a decade since I've been in the startup game.

And I would say it's the fastest way to raise a pre-seed or seed round.

So idea is pre-seed.

You don't even need a product.

You can raise a pre-seed round.

Or if you have an MVP, then you would get, you would basically raise a seed round.

And Y Combinator allows you in three months to build out your business plan, network with Silicon Valley investors, and to be able to go into that network pretty fast and build a network.

And then demo day, these incubators are...

are designed to get you to a demo day in front of thousands of investors.

And you pitch for maybe one to three minutes.

and that's it one to three minutes so you're working 12 weeks to pitch for three minutes ours was three minutes winter 18 batch uh 2018 came out of that but it was it was beautiful like uh was able to raise two two million coming out of that batch just off an idea

we had slight mvp okay um we didn't have the platform like quite built but it was kind of like our seed round because we ended up coming out of angel pad out of new york and sf back in 2016 and i raised $1.1 million on the idea.

10 PowerPoint slides.

That's amazing.

So it's possible.

A lot of people are like, oh, that's a bunch of scam.

Like, how can you raise money?

Well, I'll tell you, there's after there was a lot of lockdowns from LPs and putting money into VCs because everyone was like tightening up the funding.

And there was like 2.

I think 9 billion in dry powder.

So lots of money out there.

You can use other people's money to spin up your startup.

And the big lesson I would share is that in 2012, when I quit my corporate job, I put 250,000 of my life savings.

And

that startup failed like after two years.

So I like lost all my 401k, my life savings.

And yeah, and that's when I learned, like, whoa, like you don't need to use your own money.

There's plenty of investors and angels that want to invest in the next big thing.

Yeah.

Man, that must have been a scary time for you.

And before you even were in working, you were in the Air Force for five years, right?

That's correct.

What was that like?

It was great.

I learned a lot of discipline.

I was able to come to the United States because I had pretty much no family here.

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First generation Korean American, and I cut my teeth in the Air Force and learned communication.

I had a top secret clearance.

So I had a three-year in the field and then two years as a technical instructor.

Wow, that's awesome.

And after Air Force, is that when you started NGT Academy?

That,

no, I was in the corporate world for about five years.

So I was at my dream job, a systems engineer at Cisco Systems.

Like, I couldn't get better than that.

And I thought, like, wow, like, is this it?

And so that's when I got the startup bug.

Nice.

And talk to me about NGT Academy, what exactly that is and how you grew that.

Yeah, NGT Academy is an online IT school that focused, that trains you to be job ready ready in four months versus four years of college.

So it's a true alternative to college and we're looking to disrupt this space because there's over 650,000 cybersecurity and network jobs open as of today in the USA alone.

That's a lot.

A lot.

The MGM cyber attacks, I mean that was pretty crazy stuff, right?

It's like we need to like really work on our defense on our cyber workforce.

So that's the mission that's on.

And it's four months and it comes with career services.

And we've like taken a forklift driver, literally coming into our program with three kids and drowned in student loan debt from college.

And now he works at Google.

So the program works.

And we took that framework from the military

because in the military, you don't have four years to train people.

It's like two to six months, max.

Yeah, they just throw you in there.

Yeah.

Practical training.

Man, what did you think of that MGM cyber hack?

Because I'm seeing it everywhere.

It seems like they got in pretty easily.

Yeah, usually a lot of cyber attacks will happen internally.

So it's like, what's your security policies within

the company as well?

Because a lot of attacks do happen from inside out.

Yeah.

That's what happened, right?

They used social manipulation.

Yeah, social engineering.

Yes.

That's correct.

And then the ransom.

Yeah.

Caesars paid it, but MGM won't.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah, Caesar's paid 15 million.

So I've seen you on other interviews and also, I know it's in your book.

You talk about Kaizen.

Yes.

What exactly is that and how do you incorporate that in your life?

Yeah, great question.

So Kaizen is my number one company value that I instill into all my companies, but it's a personal value.

So I actually have Kaizen here.

Oh, wow.

And it's a Japanese concept called Kaizen, change,

Kai.

Zen for good.

Another way you can look at it is continuous improvement.

And if you think about this concept, it's pretty phenomenal.

So we try to like accomplish big major goals like within months or even a year.

But what if we actually just try to improve 1% every day in any area of your life?

And the math equation, 1% every day to the power of 365 is 37.8.

So if you look at that math, it's 37 times improvement.

You could have over your health, your relationships, your finances, your business, your career.

It's just a beautiful concept to implement.

And it came from the Toyota Manufacturing in Japan.

So they found deficiencies in their assembly line.

And it's like, okay, when something's not working, raise a hand, raise the red flag.

Let's fix that, optimize the system, and then continue on.

So for my team, it's like...

It's driven SOPs, and that's standard operating procedures, or

having them set up their quarterly goals using the Kaizen mindset.

And so

it's not as intimidating because it's like,

how can I improve every day?

Like doing one push-up every day and then doing two push-ups, doing three, doing four, right?

That's the concept.

I actually did that with push-ups without even knowing it was Kaisen.

So when I first started, I couldn't even do one push-up.

Now I'm doing 40, 50 just from Kaisen, basically.

Exactly.

That's the mindset.

Yeah, I like that.

And it's definitely manageable because some people try to improve too quickly, I think.

That's correct.

And then they give up.

Yep.

But 1% a day, I like that.

So I want to talk about OM sleep and why you started it and what exactly it is.

You got the mask here.

Yes.

I got the packaging here.

So talk to me about this.

Yeah.

So this is one of my favorite projects that,

you know, that we've been working on for a year.

We were actually silent, like completely stealth mode.

Why'd you decide to do that?

I think it's important as entrepreneurs, as founders, when you're working on something and you have like complete complete conviction and belief in the mission and the product, then why leak out that energy?

And because a lot of people like to talk about their stuff.

And

I believe in execution.

So sometimes it's good to just not talk about what you're working on.

Because I don't know, to me, it just leaks out energy.

And sometimes you just want to be heads down working on something and not need validation from others.

I love that.

Yeah, because sometimes you're so excited to share with the world what you're working on, but then there's negative energy from

haters or from whoever just coming at you.

Exactly.

And it kind of creates like self-doubt, maybe anxiety, or like you might start second questioning this idea.

And then guess what happens?

Founders sit on ideas for years.

Yeah.

I talked to founders like, oh yeah, 10 years ago, I had this idea.

Well, someone beat you to the punch.

Absolutely.

You know?

So I want to dive into the science behind it because humans are electromagnetic.

magnetic, right?

That's correct.

So we're attracting all this EMF and harmful radiation, but this mask helps prevent that, right?

That's correct.

We are launching the world's most advanced sleeping mask, and this is launching on Kickstarter on November 1st.

And this mask, let me go ahead and break this out.

This mask we've been working on for a year.

It's dual layer.

It's pretty cool.

You can actually take the inside out.

Oh, wow.

It's antibacterial.

Nice.

You can throw it in the washer and dryer.

That's cool.

And in the inside component, we have this two-speaker system that will connect to both like headphones.

So

you can listen to music in there?

Yes.

And it will actually sync with our Awaken with OM app.

We're launching in Q1 of next year.

Yeah.

And you'll be able to get guided meditation, breath work, sulfasio frequencies.

We're talking about vibration.

Sulphasio is like nature frequencies.

And our body is more harmonized towards nature frequencies.

And these are called fascio.

And so when you're out in nature, why do you feel so good?

When you go camping with your friends, like out immersed in nature, it's because you're in nature and that vibration gives you stress release.

It makes you feel good.

Indoor fins is because of the environment and because we are nature.

Nature is the greatest miracle.

I feel amazing out there, man.

I love nature.

I ground every morning.

Oh, nice.

With some, how do you ground?

Just barefoot in the grass.

Oh, beautiful.

Yeah, it feels amazing, man.

Yes.

And just doing morning rituals like that, where you can ground your feet and then you add some qigong into that.

What's qigong?

qigong is a

form of meditation.

And so I've been training with

Mantak Chia.

And have you heard of him?

No.

He's a grandmaster Taoist.

He's the only one that's won this Grand Master Award two years in a row.

And they're not even supposed to give out this twice.

And so he's out of Thailand.

and i'm gonna go train with him next year in january and also do some darkness training but darkness training yeah in the dark wow so what's the difference between that and just qi kong yeah well dark darkness train they do qigong in the dark and the reason they do that um it activates um your pineal gland

and so in if you're in the dark for long periods of time, they have like five-day retreats.

Like Aubrey Marcus went to one and he vlogged a big YouTube video about it.

But basically, like on the fifth day, you'll release DMT out of your pineal and you'll have a mystical experience.

So

that's where the darkness training comes from.

Wow, that sounds incredible.

So it's literally pitch black for five days?

That's correct.

Yep.

Wow.

Yep.

And then try this.

Yeah, it's a pretty incredible experience.

I haven't done it yet,

but it's incredible.

So back to this mask, we're talking about EMF, right?

So we partnered with the greatest technology out in the market, companies called Airs Tech.

They have 22 patents and eight science-peered research studies on this.

Wow.

Yeah.

So tens of millions of dollars poured into this RD, and we partnered with them to create a custom chip that will insert into our mask.

It just slides in here.

And it protects your pineal, too.

And the Bluetooth is behind it.

So this gives you complete 360-degree protection for any EMF radiation.

And EMF is a huge problem, right?

EMF is,

think about right now there's 6 billion people that have cell phones and there's 8 billion people that have.

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Wireless devices on this planet.

So think about that.

Phones and wireless routers and what have you,

these operate at the same frequency of microwave ovens.

So, and you've seen probably or maybe you've heard France banning the iPhone 12.

Yeah.

Right.

So we can go into go into settings, legal, and look at RF exposure.

So in your phone, you could look at that.

People aren't just aware of that.

But

there's so many studies, research, that shows that if we put a phone into our head or in our pocket, it's harmful.

And over the next eight years, there's going to be over 50 billion devices of internet of things that will connect online.

So, you know, back in, I don't know, 70s and 80s when people were smoking cigarettes on the plane, they started questioning that.

Like,

is this safe?

Are cigarettes safe?

and and you you see we are in a transitionary period where we don't know much about all these EMF radiation because we've never been exposed to this much EMF ever right and so with the 5G towers and I think it's important to really

look at how to reduce your exposure to EMF and there's multiple ways to do that yeah Man, that's super scary.

So what are sort of the side effects of EMF?

Have they really figured it out yet or are they still researching it?

I think it's too early.

They're still researching it.

There's plenty of research scientists and doctors that are bringing awareness to this.

And I think over the next few years,

you're going to see more devices or technologies that will help

reduce your risk.

So first of all, you can

not use the phone on your head, right?

Just use Bluetooth, use some headphones.

And then keep it out of your pocket.

Another option is to get EMF protection, like an Aerostech chip.

Or, you know, if you're in your bedroom, I highly recommend getting one of our own sleep masks.

This will protect you.

And it will protect the entire master bedroom.

Wow.

Wow, it protects the whole bedroom?

Yes.

Holy strong.

Yeah.

Man.

One of the things I like about what you teach is you talk about the importance of controlling your mind.

Now, the average human has 6,000 thoughts a day.

A lot of them are negative.

How do you go about controlling your thoughts better, controlling your mind?

Yeah, so it's first bringing awareness to your thoughts and changing the thought patterns.

So I would say the best way to remove negative thoughts is to

let them go and not to react to them.

Just try to observe those thoughts.

So start with practicing some mindful meditation or some transcendental meditation.

I would recommend using maybe an app at first like Headspace or Calm but later our app Awaken with OM will have beautiful guided meditations to help you

to

reduce the reduce the the the thoughts in the mind the monkey mind mind always wants a thing so

I encourage going inward there's just so much

you know we're connected to our phones we're swiping all the time so much dopamine it's like no try to just go inward try to go out to nature like you're grounding in the morning and find that peaceful moment in time where you can devote five, ten, maybe just kind of Kaizen, right?

Start with five minutes.

Yeah.

You don't have to do 20 minutes a day.

Just five minutes and just observe your thoughts.

And over time, you'll be able to control your mind and the thoughts that come in and

out of your mind.

So you believe you can reprogram the subconscious?

There's two ways to reprogram the subconscious.

So subconscious is like 5% of your mind.

95% is is unconscious.

And so subconscious programming is done over time.

And it's done on an early age, believe it or not.

By the time you're seven or eight, you've got a lot of programming.

Wow.

Yeah.

That early?

Yes.

Like beliefs,

where were you raised?

What maybe religion preference did your parents have?

What did your parents, your teachers teach you?

Like there's so much by the time the kid goes into first grade, they have a lot of programming in the subconscious.

So it's very important to understand how your children are, what they're getting taught and their surroundings from an early age.

As you get older, you will, it's like when you don't know nothing, right?

Like, and you get exposed to something and you're like, whoa, aha, I didn't know that.

Well, that's your expand, your mind being expanded and your consciousness being expanded.

So the best way to reprogram, let's say you hate your life, for example, you're depressed.

The first thing is to reprogram the subconscious.

And there's two ways to do that, sleep and through what I consider prayer or meditation.

So journaling is very important.

Right before you go to sleep, you're kind of like drowsy and going into that delta wave.

That's the perfect time to do affirmations, to look at your vision board

and to...

talk good about yourself, right?

Right before you go to bed.

Because what you think right before you go to bed is who you become eventually.

Wow.

That's crazy.

I need to start implementing that daily.

Yes.

And the second thing is through prayer and meditation.

Yeah.

And

a lot of people, or I wanna say a lot of people, but some people may pray or meditate in a way where they're like asking and asking, right?

The secret through prayer is to, you can visualize it or you can pray in terms of gratitude.

Like it's the feeling, the secret is the feeling that that desire has already manifested.

And you're just enjoying the process now.

Because in your mind, you're like,

that's my new reality, whether it's six months, a year from now.

Can you see it?

Like when I visited Cisco Systems at like 28 or 29 in San Jose, I was like, wow.

These engineers are so smart.

This company is huge.

Like it was my dream at 21 to work for Cisco one day.

But that was planted early on

I visualized it and I manifested that.

So we can all manifest what we desire if we truly believe in that vision, but it has to be crystal clear and you have to work on it daily.

Yeah, the human mind is so powerful, right?

Absolutely.

Like it's been proven now that through mindset alone, you could cure disease.

Absolutely.

You know, it's, it's, the mind is what creates illness.

And like I, I actually

had a chronic illness when I was like 2019 during.

Right after, even after hit, I caught c and and and I had this chronic

skin disease.

Wow.

It's called HS and it's super, super rare, uncurable.

But my doctor was like, hey, we got this new FDA approved.

You just got to

inject it into your thigh every day.

And I signed the paperwork too.

And then the day of

my appointment, I canceled.

I was like,

this doesn't seem right.

And I cured myself.

And how I cured myself is through

meditating.

And I want to say it's like six to six months, maybe nine months, I meditated every morning.

visualized myself becoming healthier, seeing myself,

like as healthy as I can be.

And I also did juice fasting and I did a dry fast what's crazy is the I did a 72 hour dry fast no water no food whoa yes that sounds painful yeah it was one of the hardest things I did but it healed my body wow and there's a there's some magic and power to actually fasting and there's a spiritual aspect to it too it could be it could actually become very spiritual when you're fasting so you were hallucinating while you were fasting I wasn't hallucinating just

it was just a cleansing right yeah you're just doing a complete cleanse.

And I did this herbal cleanse with it afterwards.

So three-day dry fast and then juicing.

And then I did a complete herbal diet.

Yeah.

But speaking of hallucinating, you did do frog poison in the Amazon jungle.

I got to know about this.

What was that like?

Yeah.

I think you're referring to the combo.

Yeah.

Yes.

So I did combo and this is the,

these are my combo marks called warrior marks.

Oh, so they put it on your body?

Yeah, so they burn my brother, um

good brother uh sh uh Fabian is a shaman um guy that takes people out to Peru.

And and he was able to serve me and my brothers at Sacred Sons.

Um and I did six, and they basically burned the holes.

And then they take the the the the poison from the frog.

They stretch the legs and scrape the poison.

So it's alive?

Yeah, yeah.

They they they yeah, so they don't kill a frog or anything.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, they just take the poison out.

And then I don't know what the process is to dry it, but it's like a paste.

It's like a little yellow paste.

And they put it on.

And

yeah, like it feels like you're going to die.

Really?

And yeah, I felt like I was becoming the toad.

Like

my throat chakra, like my complete throat just swolled up.

I couldn't even talk.

Whoa.

And then you do vomit.

And so it's a complete body reset because everything will purge out.

And before you do do the combo, you have to drink lots of water, like a couple gallons, and all of it will come out.

And you fast.

There was no food, no vomit.

It was just all just...

Just water.

Yeah, and parasites can come out to your system.

Yes.

Whoa.

Yeah, people have healed all types of skin disease, illnesses,

eczema, like so many health benefits to it.

Dang.

Yeah.

So are you like hallucinating on it though, or are you just feeling?

No, you're not hallucinating.

you're just feeling the poison come in through your body and it's just per it's just it's just working your entire body and think of it as just like working for hours and then it per it releases and then every you see your bucket everything comes out fascinating.

Yeah, you can check out my time lapse on my IG.

Did you have anything crazy come out?

No, well, just little weird things, man, little little yellow like dots.

Like, I don't know.

I couldn't explain like these yellow little pieces.

Yeah, just weird man just but look I don't know what they were but um I've never seen that come out my system so fascinating to me because at the right at the wrong dosage you could die from it right

I don't know because it's poison I'm not sure yeah on that how many people have died from Cambo

yeah that'd be a good good stat to look at

is that the only sort of

you've experienced dabbled in or have you done other psychedelics or anything yeah so uh I have done plant medicine

I don't talk about it much, but

there are many benefits to plant medicine.

The reason I don't talk about it too much is that

there's so much talk around plant medicine

that, like, especially like ayahuasca,

that I don't recommend

unless there's a calling for it and there's an intention setting around that versus...

It's the next cool psychedelic experience.

Let's go try it.

Like, that shouldn't be the intention not at all right so it's a it's a if you are on the path of seeking more spiritual enlightenment or wisdom then yes plant medicine can show you uh beyond the veils yeah of you know this 3d world we live in absolutely do you believe in uh twin flames and soulmates

yes i do I believe in twin flames and soulmates, and I believe they can be either men or women in your life.

but ideally one twin flame for your woman.

Right.

However, the twin flame is when you just know on a soul level,

you were meant to be together.

Or when you ever meet somebody and you come in a room and just you get this like feeling or maybe you get chills or like you're having a conversation and you meet someone and you're like, wow, like.

I know I was supposed to meet this person and we're going to do some magic together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's a twin flame?

Yeah.

That's a twin flame feeling and connection.

got it yep yeah i wonder if i've met mine yet something to think about for sure yeah you met yours yeah absolutely my current partner oh nice yeah and it was after my spiritual awakening that that we found each other nice so it's like what vibration are you at what level of consciousness are you at

and that's going to attract the person that that you desire yeah yeah because we're we're we're vibrational beings right whatever you think and whatever state of vibration you're at you're going to attract like right that's why like, for example, you know, if you are passionate about poker, we're talking about poker,

you're going to attract poker friends

because that's that vibration.

That's that frequency.

So what frequency do you want to be at?

Because you can change your frequency just like a radio receiver.

You know, we're all tuned into a certain frequency.

Have you asked yourself, do I want to change my frequency?

Because that will change my reality.

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah, because you could feel the frequencies between positive and negative people.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Especially when they, first time you meet them.

Absolutely.

So, you know, they say our electromagnetic pulse will go out even like

three meters.

Wow.

Right.

It just depends.

And so when you meet someone, you'd be like, wow, this guy's got amazing energy.

And you just want to, you know, keep talking to him.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

I remember a few people.

Yeah.

And then negative people, you're just like, oh, I need to.

I need to walk away.

Yeah.

Get out of this room.

Seeing you talk about monk mode, interested in that and how you can get to that state of mind.

Yeah, so I did monk mode in January to June this year and completely changed my life.

And there's some ground rules to it.

I will probably release some more content around this.

But it's this concept of tuning out everything, like auditing all your time and

finding yourself in deep work for six months, right?

I highly recommend even like getting off social.

That's the extreme.

But in monk mode, it's like

what's your diet like?

What's your morning routine, evening routine, journaling, getting into flow more often, meditating.

So it's creating this kind of very strict structure to get

big projects done, big goals done.

So, and then you can take a little break after that.

Yeah.

So how long are you doing it for?

Like, I did six months.

Oh, six months?

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

I don't think I could go without social media for that long.

yeah social media i didn't cut for six months i did cut it for about um 30 days okay that's still yeah 30 days and then i got back and then i was able to re-integrate it the way i wanted to integrate it wow yeah that's awesome so before we wrap up want to talk about the book and anything else you want to promote yeah absolutely so this book is launching on october 3rd By the time you see this show, maybe it's already launched.

But it's called Zero to Engineer, The Ultimate Guide to Getting Your Dream Job in IT.

This is the story of the American dream.

This is how I came to the States and I wanted to go work for Cisco Systems, you know,

Fortune 100 company.

And this is how to land your dream IT job without a college degree, obtain financial freedom because you can make, you know, anywhere from like

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I mean, it's a very promising career field, right, for anyone that's stuck in a low income wage job.

And you get to work on the latest technologies.

That's what's cool about getting into IT because the technology changes, right?

So like AI is right now super hot.

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So this book is a shortcut to,

it's like my 15-year IT career, like compressed into 120 pages.

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Wow.

Yeah.

It's got the Kaizen philosophy built into that.

Like,

it's a beautiful book.

That's probably one of the best $20 investments an upcoming IT guy can make.

Absolutely.

This is going to be $9.99.

Oh, $10.

$10, like, literally.

And then you get access to a 22-hour network entry-level certification course.

Nice.

So, like, literally,

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Our mission is to change a million lives by 2030.

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And then this will be on Amazon on October 3rd.

And yeah, and my stealth project, this Ohm Sleep Mask, yeah,

you can get one of these

masks on Kickstarter in November.

So look out for that.

Yeah, I can't wait to try that.

I'm going to send you my feedback.

Very excited for that.

And I'm going to buy those EMF chips for sure.

Thanks so much for coming on, man.

Yeah.

Thanks for having me.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And if you want to experience breathwork

and have a beautiful, let's say, DMT release,

I can't promise you'll have that, but there's a good chance that you can activate your pineal.

We do Qi Kong breathwork in a sound journey bath.

It's like a four-hour journey.

But you can go to awakenwithoam.com and come to my next breathwork event.

Love that.

Yeah.

Thanks so much for coming on, man.

Great episode.

Yeah.

Thank you for having me.

Thanks for watching, as always, guys.

I'll see you next time.

See you guys.