The Mysteries of Atlantis, Aliens and the Afterlife with Matias De Stefano | Digital Social Hour #36

you ever seen or conversed with an alien?

Yes, I have.

So what was that life like?

Well, I was a woman in that life.

So a lot of people are taught about heaven and hell.

What's been your experience with that?

Is it real?

I have friends there.

All right, welcome to the Digital Social Hour.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

I'm here with my co-host, Charlie Cavalier, and our guest today, Matthias DeSefano.

How's it going, man?

Hi, thank you for inviting me.

Absolutely.

You flew out on a layover.

Yeah, I wasn't supposed to be in Las Vegas.

I'm going to Miami, actually.

Wow.

What are you going to Miami for?

They invited me to a Bitcoin conference, which I don't understand anything.

But my friend does.

So I'm going to accompany him.

So you're getting in crypto.

Not me.

Well, I don't know.

Actually, I'm just friends of two people that are involved in the conference.

And they said you have to come because we want to introduce the people.

Nice.

So I'm going to be there not understanding anything, but maybe it will.

Yeah.

That's our space.

We're into crypto.

Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

Miami's doing a lot of cool stuff in the tech scene, too.

So, yeah.

I don't know why.

But

yeah.

Are you excited to go?

Are you nervous?

Or any feelings about?

Okay.

Really?

Why not?

Yeah, we got to get into that.

too much humidity um but um

um but yeah i'm excited because it's something new for me that i don't understand at all so

it's good so right now you live in argentina uh kind of yeah i'm moving uh from europe argentina cool yeah i'd love for you to give a quick backstory for people watching that don't know your story sure well i was born in argentina i'm also italian but mainly argentinian um and um basically my crazy story was that since I was born I was

able to keep remembering everything that happened before I was born

and for me was natural my my family was agnostic no religion at all nothing so everything was a creativity

like I was too creative for them so they encouraged me to tell the stories of what I remembered and to make drawings and everything.

So it was not a spiritual thing, it was much more a creative thing.

And I started to study education because I wanted to help other kids that were going through the same thing that I was going through.

Because I realized that there were many kids remembering and feeling things that nobody could help them to understand what was happening.

So, and every day I met more in my neighborhood, in my classrooms.

But they shut up because of their religions or whatever, or fear.

So I decided to study education in order to help teachers mainly to understand a different way of perceiving reality so they could manage that in classrooms, in schools.

So I've been trying to do that for the first years after I finished high school in Spain.

But suddenly they started to ask me, well, why these people, why these children are different?

So I started to explain dimensions and frequencies and then started to explain everything that I remember in order to help them understand why we were being born different.

And that took me to explain aliens and past lives and stuff that I wasn't supposed to explain.

That it was not my goal.

But people started to wonder and ask me and I started to answer like naturally.

So someone filmed me, put in YouTube and suddenly everyone was looking at me.

So was it that part of the the world where kids were remembering past lives, or was it a worldwide thing, you think?

It's a worldwide thing.

Yeah,

it's everywhere.

We are connecting not only past lives.

We usually talk about past life, but it's not just that.

That's only one thing.

It's about connectivity.

We are getting tuned and connected again with the entire planet.

So, we are waking up as a whole.

And

many people are living this chaotically.

We don't understand why we are living this or how to manage this new reality, this new way of

perceiving reality with the one that we have today.

So basically, I started to educate people.

And by educate, I don't mean teaching.

I mean like helping through experiences to people to remember by themselves and to feel that connectivity.

So I've been doing trips around the world, connecting places and showing people the links between those places with history and the future.

And mainly

my main love in all this is not spirituality, it's actually society.

I love to

contribute into the creation of a new philosophy for a new kind of society in the future.

That was

my main goal.

But

people now are in a very inner crisis of who we are, why are we doing this?

Where are we heading to?

So, most of the questions that we have today is about consciousness.

And

I was against spirituality for my whole life because my family was agnostic, my grandfather was against religion, and so I was trying to be far away from all that.

But even though I was born very spiritual, like it was my nature, so

I started to use that as a tool to help others to understand society and nature.

Do you feel like you do as much convincing as you have to do educating?

Just, you know, making people receptive to your ideas and your beliefs?

Or do you feel like you get to do as much education as you want to, or do you still fight the uphill battle of convincing people of what you believe in?

Well,

no, I'm not fighting anything to convince anybody.

Like, I don't care.

Actually, it's one of my

philosophies is that I don't care to convince anybody.

Basically,

I put my life and service to those that are wondering and questioning,

but not to convince everybody that this is the truth, because what I say is not the truth.

It's just my perception and my memory about it.

But nobody has the complete truth.

So it's impossible to say,

I have to convince you that this is the right way.

It's impossible to prove.

It's It's impossible to prove.

You can prove some things

because

most of the people today are talking about what ten years ago was difficult to talk about, like spirituality, connectivity, the universe, quantum physics, and all this connected as one.

So I think that

people are getting involved into this and you don't have to convince them is because people are feeling it already, like somehow.

So, a lot of people have questions.

So, basically, I try to answer the questions to those who ask the questions and not try to impose information to those who don't answer.

So, how many of those questions?

How many of your past lives do you remember?

Do you remember all of them?

Not all of them.

Many of them, but not all of them.

Most of them are

meaningless for what I am doing now.

They were just things that helped me to understand some things in my own life.

Right.

But

mainly two of them are the ones that have been guiding me in my mission today in this life.

Which two were those?

Two or three.

Was that the one when you were in Atlantis?

Yes, in the province of Atlantis.

Right.

So what was that life like?

Well, I was a woman in that life

and the society was matriarchal.

So

there were no kings and queens.

There were circles of people ruling.

So sometimes it was like a circle of women, and every

few years or a few months, we switch positions.

So I was part of one of the circles because of blood

coming from a a high family in

in the region of the Nile.

And well, I was I was

living

12,000 years ago

at the end of the glaciation.

That's crazy.

How are you able to access these specific memories?

Do they appear?

Is it something you have to work towards?

Or how are you able to find these places in your brain or consciousness where they are?

Well, they just what

I started to remember when I was 12 years old, and I

it was like

pains in my head, like I was starting to be headache and flashes, and it was all mixed.

So it took me like 10 years until I put many of the things together and understood the whole picture.

And even today, I am putting much more of these pictures together.

Like many things that I saw when I was 12 make sense now, actually, like last week, for example.

Many of the things that I remember was

a practice.

First, it was natural.

Like I started to remember and it started to come.

But

then when I was after 18 or 19 years old, it stopped being natural and it became like an exercise.

Like drawing, writing, trying to figure out how to put one thing together with the other.

And there are some periods like when I was 24 that I started to remember more things for a year and then it stopped and then it was a practice again.

So I yeah,

it's like if you are dreaming, but you're awake.

That's the feeling.

Which

I was just describing that my teenage hood was like living in a constant ayahuasca ceremony.

Like,

it's kind of that description.

Yeah, yeah.

You just, speaking of ayahuasca, you just took it, right?

Two weeks ago, three weeks ago.

Yeah, what was that like?

Because it's on my bucket list.

I've been wanting to do it one day.

Oh, it's for me, it's amazing.

Of course,

every time that I did it, well, I didn't do it much, but

the first time was in 2016, then 2017,

and

now

three weeks ago.

For me, it's like going back home.

It's like going to the network and being able to dive in the subconscious, which is like

relaxing, relaxing for those who can remember

the universe.

Sometimes

it's terrible for those who are afraid of losing control.

When you are used to being control of everything that you do,

when you say, This is me, this is Matthias, and

I can't think about me being something else or, you know,

being afraid of losing yourself.

Those people can suffer it a lot.

They have a back trip.

Yeah, yeah.

But that's why I recommend to

let yourself go because it's beautiful to go to dive into the subconscious.

Right.

So when you're on psychedelics, sometimes you see geometric patterns.

Yeah.

What do these patterns mean?

Well, basically, the entire universe is about patterns.

So when you usually do psychedelics, you start to see the patterns and you start to see how not only there's a triangle, but also three people might be the triangle in your life.

so you understand the connectivity between these three people and how they help you to shape a square and say why a square from a triangle so when you start to see the patterns you start to to perceive the the shapes the the

the depth of of the information through patterns and um when you can when you come back you start to understand why things that happen in your life or people you know in your life

are the right people or the right situations because everything is linked and it's part of a perfect structure.

The universe is basically a a perfect structure structure of information.

Information means that nothing is really uh predesigned, but everything has a design that is constantly forming itself, that is it's shaping constantly.

And um

so

it means that you have free will, but with certain tools.

So

basically, that's why when you enter in that reality, you start to go into the subconscious where everything is patterns.

It's not reality.

It's just information that is connected through patterns.

That's why it's the best way to crack your mind and to enter what it really is.

Because this is just a hologram of patterns.

Do you think those patterns form organically, or do you think we as a triangle of people or a network of connections fall into a predetermined set of whether it's triangles, four things, whatever it might be?

Well, you have to think that

sometimes

in our human way of perceiving things, we think that there is a pattern and we adapt to that pattern.

But actually, we are the pattern.

So

as we move as we know someone as we shake hands with someone we are linking patterns so it's not that there's a pattern that you have to get into is that you moving create the pattern so basically it's like if you have a

a triangle and in order to be a perfect pattern it needs to be

like this

but somehow it's deformed because you are not doing what you are supposed to do, so you are doing whatever, which

whatever it's not that you're doing a wrong thing, it's that you're wasting a lot of energy because you don't know where to position yourself.

So, when you go back to yourself, and that's one of the philosophical concepts, when you go back to yourself, you locate yourself in the right position of the structure, which makes the energy flow too fast.

So, you have better results, for example.

That's why people that usually go to themselves get results very fast than the people that is trying to work hard in order to get something, because they are trying to be someone else.

And that's you're out of your position on the geometry.

That makes sense because people try to pretend to be Mr.

Beast and then it doesn't work out.

We've heard that a lot lately.

It's just be yourself and be, you know, stay in with or be original.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Being a part of that system helps you to understand that you are not conditioned by a system.

It's you who build the system.

You are tied to the structure because you are the structure.

And sometimes I heard a lot of people saying, we live in a matrix.

We don't live in a matrix.

We are the matrix.

Which is totally different.

Because when you think you live in a matrix, it's like if you are trapped and you have to go somewhere else.

But if you go out from this matrix, you don't exist.

Because basically you are created by this matrix.

Your name, your DNA,

your thoughts are all conditioned by this matrix.

So eventually you realize, oh, wait a moment, I am the matrix.

So when you recognize that, you find your position.

So suddenly, you find the structure and the whole structure starts to work according to what you need in that position.

I want to touch up on space.

Charlie and I love space.

We always talk about going to space one day.

Is the Big Bang theory true?

A part of it.

Which part?

The boom.

But it's not the beginning.

Okay.

So, what existed before the beginning?

Oh, there was another amazing reality.

Wow.

It's a

constant reality held by the void.

Actually, the only thing that exists is the void.

The Big Bang was just an expression of the void

being expressed in a different frequency than it used to do before.

So

it's like a heartbeat,

but very slow.

So

basically the boom is like

and eventually

so basically, the whole creation is like a heartbeat,

and it's a pulse, everything is a pulse.

So, there was no an origin, it is only

an origin because we are living

in between that pulse that has been created.

But before, there was another one, and another one, and another one.

And it's so huge and eternal that it doesn't have space and doesn't have time.

Time and space are just one of the expressions of this

pulse that has been created.

But before,

before

it's relative,

it was another kind of expression that had a different space and a different time.

Wow, that's trippy.

So, is there a parallel universe with a different pulse to

like billions of it?

Do you think you can experience them while staying in this universe?

Yes, when you connect with the data, data, just data.

When you go to the one zeros here, one one one zero zero one, when you go there,

you can perceive each one of the other options.

How do you get there?

That's tough.

Because, first of all, you have to

transition

your own life in a way that you release or transcend all your beliefs

and even who you are and you transcend the idea of death so you have to die many times in order to achieve the concept of no death

and when you do that you can experience every death as an option and not as a result wow and

so

ancient civilizations used to do this a lot

they had a lot of practices of death in our cultures we are afraid of dying

because you have only two options: hell or heaven.

So, even if you don't believe in it,

your whole DNA has been listening to that for so long.

Like, so many generations listening, you have to do it right because it's the only chance that you have, and not

otherwise, you go to hell or heaven.

Um,

so people is afraid of dying.

But other cultures that don't get afraid of death, um,

they are much more likely to experience those others' realities as true.

Like people in the middle of the rainforest, people in the middle of the desert, people that have accomplished to die many times in life, and they already know that they are not who they think they are.

So that released the tension of survival.

When you release the tension of survival, which is all your cells trying to be you,

and you just release that tension.

Suddenly, every cell can become an option of a new you,

which is trillions of options.

And that opens your mind into

that's crazy.

Yeah.

Touching back on space again.

It's not for our weekend.

Yeah, that would take many lifetimes.

I don't think we'll get there this time.

Could you train Sean to transcend and experience other parallel universes?

Well, you have to.

Well, the fastest way is all the psychedelics, but with an intention.

Like,

I will use this tool with the intention of

something, not just I will check.

Right.

So, if you set an intention, yourself will follow the intention.

So, yeah.

Do you believe in

spirits and ghosts and the afterlife?

Well,

I

live that.

I don't believe it.

Wait, wait, hold on.

That's my reality.

The answer to do you believe in ghosts in the afterlife is yeah, I've lived it.

Okay, one, I have no, I got, what were the ghosts like?

What did they say?

Right.

What were the ghosts like?

The ghosts is.

I wouldn't recommend to

be in touch with ghosts.

Okay.

Yeah.

Mainly, it's not because they are

scary, it's because they are lost souls that are in the fourth dimension and they think that they are still alive.

There's a lot of people like that.

And they can grab you in their stories, and you can end up in a story that you don't want.

And somehow, when you die, you maybe find them and they will help, ask for help, and you get also in that state.

So actually, I wouldn't recommend to talk to ghosts unless

you have the gift to do it and you have to

do a task.

Yeah.

Yeah, so what because there's dead people that show up in my dreams.

Yes.

Are those ghosts trying to reach out to me?

It could be.

Right.

Yeah.

Sometimes

you can tell they are real when your nervous system feels them.

Like if you feel your

hands getting wet or your feet cold or your neck cold or these kind of things that usually describe creepy things.

Right.

You know, like, but actually, is your nervous system feeling the

change of frequency around you?

So, usually, when they are close, the frequency gets lower.

Wow.

So, that's why your nerve system gets ready to feel cold or something.

Yeah, so that means the dream world is linked to the fourth dimension, then.

Yeah, because it's all controlled by your hypothesis and your thalamus.

I knew it.

I told you.

I always thought that.

So, it's all connected to the emotional to the emotional level, and

it's like a tuning, like it, like a biological

antenna for all the frequencies that are around.

So, basically,

we have to understand that dimensions are not places, are tunings.

So, it's like a radio station.

So,

when

someone from the other dimension tries to tune with you,

you start to,

the radio station is your pineal gland.

So,

that's why you start to understand it through the nervous system before

your mind or your emotion.

It's like

your body starts to feel it.

And they can communicate because of the because of dreams.

It's like the machine of the hypothalamus is like

creating all these packages of data, of information while you sleep, like trying to administrate all the information you have received during the day.

So when they tune with you, they use

data, not knowing that they are doing it, but they tune with your process of information.

They can talk to you.

Wow, that's scary.

I feel like you've been training for this.

Dude.

If you've been training for this,

well, so.

Well, I'm trying to master lucid dreaming because I want to be able to achieve astral projection.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you mentioned pineal gland.

Well, that opened the fourth dimension.

So you have that bigger.

Yeah.

You mentioned pineal gland earlier.

Yes.

Is it true that fluoride suppresses it?

I don't know if it's true because I never try it.

Like, I never...

You don't use toothpaste?

Yeah, of course.

That's why, yes, I'm more disconnected now.

Yeah, of course, most of the things that we not only eat but drink, the water has that.

Yeah.

I don't know why.

If it is something on purpose that they're doing or something that someone came up with in order to clean the water,

but they are putting that in all the water that you drink from the tap.

Yeah.

And that

makes your brain slower.

That calcifies the pain of.

Yeah, I don't have the right information for that, but I have been,

yeah, doctors saying that to me, like, yeah, we have this, and you have to clean the water so it doesn't have fluor.

Because usually,

yeah, it's, and

if you see all this

well all the parents saying to the children you have to brush your teeth you know and they use the fluor for that so in the first seven years seven years that you use that you start to

shut off the radio station right

so

the most important period of time that you shouldn't use fluor in anything water or brushing your teeth or whatever is before seven years old.

Wow, that's good to know for our kids.

Because it's when the brain is still developing and

they are still open to every possibility because they have the imagination open.

And our culture says that children have imagination, but then they have to be responsible.

But actually, the people that changed the world had a lot of imagination.

So basically, you are killing all the people

that is going to transform the world just because you want for them to brush their teeth.

So, what's your water recommendation?

So, what water do I drink?

What water should I drink then?

I have no idea.

Okay.

Natural water?

What do you prefer?

Because you do a decent amount of traveling.

You're obviously very conscious about what you put in your body.

What do you try to make sure you eat?

Not much.

The thing is that,

how do I put this in words?

The thing is that I don't care again.

Like,

I do care for the people that are trying to transform it.

But it's like if personally, I have this conflict with myself that I don't actually care if I die because there's so many experiences and I remember many deaths.

So it's like,

you know what?

If I want to eat a candy this life,

we didn't have chocolate.

In other times or in other dimensions, we don't have five things

than the one he's living now, is what he's trying to say.

I'm trying to live, yeah.

So, but when I am doing a task, like I have to work spiritually or energetically in some place, I usually stop eating many of the things and start to

take right water or write everything to clean.

the body in order for the channel to be much more prepared.

But I'm not like someone that says you should do this in order to.

No, I think that everyone has a different way of doing it.

Yeah, yeah.

So, a lot of people are taught about heaven and hell.

Yeah.

What's been your experience with that?

Is it real?

I have friends there.

Yeah.

Both places?

Both places.

You have to have friends everywhere.

Just in case.

Hell and heaven are basically the two extremes of the subconscious.

So

they don't really exist.

They are adaptable to your own state of mind.

So when you die, it's not the end of your life.

It's basically your information

transcends into another frequency.

So

what you are now physically is just a package of data.

that has been used for a certain amount of time to accomplish something but then the information keeps going, so the energy keeps going.

So, according to the frequency you have been working during your life,

that frequency will keep going.

So,

all the realities that you will live in the fourth and fifth dimension will depend on the frequency that you are in.

If you are in a very low frequency, that means that you will tune to all the realities or projections that are in a low frequency.

And if you are in a high frequency, you will see all the realities in the high frequency.

Wow.

So, but that's tuned to you.

So, it's not that there is a place with fire and demons and these kind of things.

It's that the people that have been in a very low frequency, what they usually see are all their fears

becoming true.

So, those fears becoming true in that reality, which is the fourth dimension, no time, no space.

When you start to see that and people came back from that and wrote about it, they describe hell.

Wow.

But actually, it was their hell.

Maybe, I don't know,

my hell would be waiting in a line

for millions of years

waiting for the doctor.

You know, something like that.

I hate being in a line.

Yeah, same.

So, or a constant Disney world without games.

So, that would be a a hell.

So it depends on the person, you know, depends on the person, the hell you will have.

Because it depends on the pregnancy.

So your decisions and beliefs in this life and existence determine what your post-current form life or existence is going to be like?

For sure,

Christian people will see

Jesus

until you expand so much in the other reality that suddenly Jesus starts to become

an angel, and the angel starts to become a huge metatron scube, and suddenly the metatron scube becomes a triangle, and you see a very deep light behind, and you say, Oh, God, an eye, the eye that sees everything, and suddenly you go to the eye, and you see the void, and in the void, you feel the whole, and that's beautiful.

Wow.

When you get there, but before

you

an Hinduist person will see Krishna, or you know, it's it's it's according to the frequency that you have been working with.

Yeah, so there's nine dimensions,

mainly, you've been to all of them,

we all have, oh, we all have.

Well, you remember all of them, we don't.

Yeah, which one is your favorite dimension?

Well, it depends.

I would say that the sixth dimension

because it's the one that you modify all realities.

It's the one that

you are the creator, basically, and you

can take anything and make it transform into something different.

So it's like playing with the reality like if it's clay.

Wow.

That's the sixth dimension.

It's beautiful.

Sounds powerful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sounds fun.

But besides that,

you don't feel emotions.

So the only dimension where you can actually feel the result of the transformation is the third dimension.

Wow.

So when you say fun,

it's here.

So the third dimension is more fun than other dimensions because you actually feel what has been created.

In other dimensions you have the joy or

you can describe it as joy or ecstasy of being creator or being the light,

but it's not that you will enjoy it.

You won't feel it, the emotion.

You won't feel the emotion to compare it with something.

Wow.

Why is that?

Because the third dimension separates everything.

So, for example, for every emotion, you have a hormones.

So, the hormones had a specific energetical charge that will push your brain to feel a specific frequency.

In the sixth dimension, all of that is together.

So, you can only feel high.

It's like living in a constant orgasm, but believe me,

you don't want that if you are in the third dimension.

You need to relax.

So

it's incredible when you compare it with the third dimension because you have the way to compare in the third dimension.

In other dimensions, you don't have the way to compare exactly.

Like in the fourth dimension, for example, you cannot compare the sentence when I was younger

because there is no when I was younger.

You you can be that young when you just think about it.

So

it's there relative on how you separate or relate to the things.

So it's very difficult to explain

the emotion into another dimension

because it's not separated like we have it here

because of the hormones.

Because there's no time there, right?

There's no time and

there's no

specific structures of matter.

Like matter in the third dimension has

has manifested all the different

frequencies of other dimensions and manifested into a conjunction of energy, which is particles and molecules.

So

that's the reaction that we usually feel as an emotion.

But imagine that energy free.

If you if you have that energy this compact, like

in the seventh dimension, for example, you have enlightenment.

So you only see energy and it's flowing everywhere, and you cannot compare you with me because it doesn't exist.

So in the seventh dimension, there are no beings.

Wow.

Are just different rays of the light that come from the same source and reflect to one another constantly.

But they seem different because they have colors, but actually it's just light.

Wow.

So you see them as archangels, or you can call them archangels, but actually for the seventh dimension it's just rays of light.

So

there's no way to compare difference between one another.

Are the light able to communicate or no?

It's all visual.

Yeah,

it's the communication is the frequency that the speed of frequency

that

the photons have.

So

that's the data.

So you're only going to be able to interact with other people that were in your frequency in this afterlife period?

Yeah, that's why people choose to be a ghost.

Let's come back here.

You mentioned within one of the nine dimensions, you can meet God.

Yeah.

You said not a lot of people reach that dimension, but you have.

Well, not me as Matthias, but you in a past life.

We all have been,

we all are that there.

And we all can tune to that.

It's just that

we need to find the right way or moment to do it if it's needed.

I had,

yes, and

it's

something that you cannot explain.

Really?

It's very complicated because it's everything at once and

it's just like a constant breathing where in every breath you can feel the entire universe and and you can understand everything without willing to understand it.

And there's no purpose.

There's nothing

more than just a

Like,

but in every breath is everything.

It's crazy.

It's very difficult to actually describe what it feels the ninth dimension.

Ninth dimension, man.

We gotta schedule that.

We gotta get there.

Is there a moment or an existence that you would live live in constantly as opposed to this one if you had the choice to?

So, if you could just flip the switch and have any sort of other existence than the one you have here sitting on the couch right now, would you do that or would you stay here now?

Well,

I would, like six dimension, as I said.

Yeah.

But actually, I know that I am there

transforming a pattern so I could be here.

So basically, I am there.

So.

That's a roundabout way of getting around that answer.

So, yeah.

It's just that I am not consciously aware constantly

of that state of myself.

What has been your favorite life in the third dimension?

Was it in Atlantis?

Was it in Egypt during the pyramids?

Was it something else?

Yeah, it was during the Atlantean period.

It was a very good life.

Even though we had many structures to follow, it was very, very

nice.

What was the food like in Atlantis?

There's something that I always remember eating, which was snake.

Never had it.

You shook.

Yes, I remember they cooking it like in a spiral way, saying that it gives you strength to go to the spiritual realm.

And

I remember that dish wow

that that was one of the things that i said i would try it again

i would try snake

i would try it i would have to stop shaking first i need that cut off i didn't i won't want to look into it yeah i don't want to if i if you don't tell me what it is ahead of time

you know yeah

but it was um

yeah um

it was not like some some people asked me if they were vegetarians because they had a um

high consciousness but no it was not related to that you ate meat and what was uh

what role did money play back then was it was there some sort of currency in Atlantis it was mainly based in seeds

and some seats that

were

geometrical shapes

it was like a

like a coin, but actually was like a sphere with different cuts.

So that was used as a very high valuable exchange

of currency.

But

because

most of the people lived in communities,

we used to call that there were people rich in fish, people rich in pigs,

people rich in in corn, well, it was not corn in Africa, but

wheat.

so there were people rich in different things.

So the the

the wealth was calculated in the harvest or the hunting um and the exchange of that

trading.

Yeah.

And only in certain moments when the quantities were bigger, they used this kind of coins which were like kind of a spherical.

Got it.

That's very interesting.

Interesting.

Do you remember any of your emotions in relation to maybe like historical events?

And not like specific dates, but like, you know, like the downfall of Atlantis or like, you know, major deaths or anything like that where you feel like you can remember your existence in relation to something major happening in this world?

Well, my

great-grandfather and mother

were immigrants from Atlantis when they fall,

so I didn't leave that, but

my grandparents usually told us a story of how it was to

leave the main islands and to move to

following the masters to the Nile.

So

and I was living the moment of

the end of the glaciation, so we experience

the drought and the beginning of the Sahara desert to expand.

So, that was a moment that historically you can check

online that actually happened,

which was the change of the weather in that time.

Actually, when I was young, I used to paint the maps:

where was the ice, where we where could we go,

where we couldn't, and many years after, and even now I think Graham Hancock did a documentary Netflix that explains all that and

when he was explaining I was like I've been there I saw I saw that

so

so yeah that's one of the but it's very way in the past

the other one that I can relate to was 900 years ago when I was born in Norway and I remember a war between Gotland

and

our region in South Norway.

And

well, I remember going to becoming a Christian and going to Jerusalem and going to see the Pope

in

a northern city in Italy.

So, yeah, so there are some characters there that you can search and they exist.

But it was not a very known story.

Right.

Do you know how the pyramids were built in Egypt?

A part of it.

I can remember that

the priests and priestesses

did everything with sound.

They use sound.

So they have these specific stones and canes

that made a high vibration and they would design the patterns in the water.

So they would use that water to

crack the stones

and then with the vibration of the same water,

like very high resonance in the water, the stones would float

and they would just push it.

Wow.

And

there were a lot of people working in the construction of the pyramids.

There were no spaceships.

So no aliens.

No aliens.

No aliens?

No, no aliens.

That was my prediction.

Sorry.

But they helped at the beginning.

Not with spaceships, but

basically they were helping with the designs of how to do it.

So they taught people,

we call them the blue ones,

the ones that received the information.

So they were untouchable.

They were covered all the time with veils and we couldn't see see them.

And they were high in the mountains and they would talk to the aliens from Sirius, from Arturus,

and they would send the information through them and they would come back and

tell which frequencies and which patterns we should use in order to move the stones, where to put them and so on.

Wow.

They were not directly involved in the construction.

They were basically like

advisors.

Why aren't they still here?

What?

Why aren't they still advising?

Why did they left us?

Because you have to we have to have a specific

composition in our brain to be wide open to perceive the fourth dimension.

Because they communicate through time, not through space, mainly.

So

basically

they need

like a whole consciousness,

a network of consciousness connected in order to be download.

How do I describe this?

Like,

like if every person is

a Wi-Fi by its own,

okay, but everyone is in different rates of, you know, like some are

still with the old one, you know, like some is 5G, some others 3G, you know, so

it's like

so if a lot of people go to 5G very fast and all at the same time,

so they can communicate, they can relate because

it's like trying to download the whole information of the entire planet in your phone.

It's impossible.

Yeah.

So

also because that can produce you cancer or any kind of diseases because the frequency is different, so your cells are not aligned to that amount of frequency that they need in order to be here.

Wow.

So that's why they could only communicate through specific people, through dreams, through messages, through frequencies,

and in certain periods of time when the people have been all as a population prepare to resound in the same frequency.

That's crazy.

Which Atlantis did.

Have you ever seen or conversed with an alien?

Yes, I have.

And was the skin wet or dry?

Wet or dry?

We have this inside joke.

So

to be fair, we'll be fair to Ariel.

You heard this outside.

We're going to be fair to Ariel.

In your experience with aliens, have they been dry or clammy?

Depends on the species.

Really?

So both?

I told him there was multiple.

Of course.

So both answers are correct.

If they are based in Silica, they don't have wet hands.

Okay, okay.

It settles it.

I mean, experience.

We're both right.

We're both right.

It depends on the species.

Do aliens have names the way that we do?

Not all of them.

Some of the species do.

Do you have any alien names that you've encountered?

I remember a life being one of them, and I was Arak.

Okay.

Yes.

How do they talk to each other?

Is it English or is it telekinesis?

Oh,

it's like in packages of data.

So they basically

use geometry when they try to talk to you.

Oh, wow.

And it's like

shocking.

And

they call it light language.

So people start to say things that they don't understand.

Like it's like too much.

too many

too much things that you cannot process so you can so you make sounds that sounds like words, but actually, they are not words.

It's just the vibration between the lines of the pattern of the information that they're giving to you.

Wow, so it's like they are giving a tetrahedron of data of information, and you start to say,

like this sounds like,

but actually, it's like

so it's like the frequency between the, yeah, and it sounds like words.

Interesting.

Can you train us to do all this stuff?

Yeah, train, teach, download.

Well,

I usually,

by mistake, once, I took some friends on a trip to Egypt.

How do you take friends?

How do you take by mistake?

Because I went.

I gotta hear that story.

Because

I basically had to go for a personal thing, a personal mission.

And three of my friends said, we can go with you, we can accompany you.

Okay, great.

So, through that path, I started to reconnect and felt so many things, and so many weird things happened.

And we rented the pyramid.

One of the weird things that I discovered that year is that you can do, which is rent the Great Pyramid.

You can rent the pyramid?

Rent the Great Pyramid.

You can rent the

climb it and no, climb up.

Oh, no.

That's illegal.

Okay.

But you can be inside.

How much does it cost to rent the Great Pyramid?

2,400

2,400 for two hours.

What was it like inside?

Did you get lost?

Because it's got to be huge in there, right?

No.

No?

No, actually, it's a narrow path.

And then you go to...

You can choose which chamber you want.

I recommend the high one.

And when you go there,

the sound is perfect.

And I recommend to turn off all the lights.

So it seems that you are levitating in the middle of

the universe.

And when you start to hum, you feel the hum everywhere.

And it's a perfect resonance.

And suddenly, well, things could happen.

With me, a lot of weird things happen

when I start to connect there.

And

so a lot of information and things happened when I went there for the first time like that, two hours alone with these friends.

And

there were so many channelings and discoverings and activating information that they had inside that they had no idea they had, that they said, we have to bring people to do this.

So since that moment, I've been taking people through the Nile

to make a process of teaching

what we knew 12,000 years ago, what the temples were used for, what is the energy of each one of the stages of Egypt, until you reach the pyramid and you know why exactly you need to enter the pyramid and how to work with that.

And people start to

there were people, there were people that

had

ayahuasca and bufo experience for their whole life, and when they lived inside,

they never had that experience with buffo or

yeah, like

so.

Sometimes it's like annoying, and sometimes it's like you just open and suddenly many things happen.

That's insane.

Yeah.

Is Bigfoot real?

What?

Bigfoot.

Bigfoot?

Yeah.

Oh, no.

No?

Not anymore, I think.

Maybe they existed.

Well, you mentioned giants and reptilians used to roam the Earth.

Oh, yes, but a long time ago.

Long time ago?

Yeah, I think they don't exist anymore.

Wow.

They are not around here anymore.

I wish I could see a giant.

I want to see some of this stuff.

I want to see.

Yeah,

I think we got to go to Egypt.

So, if you want to mistakenly take Sean and I to Egypt, like your other friends, how did I end up here?

Yeah, sometimes happen.

How important is laughter?

Laughter is the main thing for basically

I was once channeling a being from the fifth dimension in an event many years ago in 2011, and suddenly everyone was like in this

moment of connection, very high,

and the being said, Laugh, humans,

laugh.

And everyone starts to laugh, and the whole thing, the whole energy changed, like even

a storm appeared from nowhere.

It was like, it was like very crazy what happened.

And

they always explained

laughter

helps the brain to relax and it creates like a shock of hormones that

activates the whole body.

So, laughter is basically a very important tool for the spirit realm.

If you don't laugh, you're not very connected to your own spirit.

Wow.

Spirit comes from the word spirare in Latin, that means to breathe.

So, a spiritual person is the one that allows himself to breathe properly

and not only breathe properly, but also use use the breathing system which is through singing laughing so everything that comes from the air breath laughter connects you much more to the spirit than sometimes hours of meditation what is the correct way to breathe is it through your nose or through your mouth nose always the nose the mouth is when you need to do a rebirth process for example when you need to to gain back energy because because you have lost it.

I'm already practicing, I'm doing it wrong for 34 years.

But

the

nose

is the right one because the nose goes straight to the pineal gland, and the air, when it goes straight here, it like hits the right place of the spirit.

So that's why spirare is connecting with the spirit.

Wow.

And

when you let the air go

uh through the nose too, the process of activation in the center of your brain is much uh correct, soft than when you do it with the mouth.

The mouth was designed to eat.

So

um

you only eat air when you are in need of something.

It's good to know.

Otherwise just nose.

I gotta I gotta work on the mouth breathing.

Hostage tape.

Yeah, hostage tape, right?

So what's next for you?

Well,

right now,

my goal is to basically create a conscious university online mainly.

One part will be free, the other part will be to

support everything that we are we are doing.

And the main idea is to to download all the information that spiritually I have been receiving

related to a social

evolution, which is called ontocracy,

a system based in biology,

a social system based in biology, guided by the self.

So

we are working with a foundation to

create

educational content for people to understand better how it is to create a society based in yourself

and

trying to create a very crazy idea, which is the first state of consciousness,

actual state, like a country,

based on that system

related to

the inner self

and applied to technology and AI.

I'd love to help promote that.

I really believe in what you're doing.

When I have everything like much more organized, I will share it to you.

Yeah, of course.

I really believe in his mission, man.

I love it.

It's powerful to be able to educate people on this topic.

And it's something that not enough people are talking about and something that I think people are a little scared to jump into because they might find out more about themselves than they want to.

Yes.

Taught.

For sure.

Mainly science, which is a very good path,

biology and science to find the spirit.

But they are still afraid

to find it by themselves.

Thaias, it's been a pleasure.

I hope next time we all meet, we're a bit more enlightened and we can have a better part too.

But any closing thoughts for people watching?

Well, as you said,

three tools,

three main tools to change your life

and to connect much more with your higher self, which is take care of what you eat because food becomes you.

So, whatever you want to become, eat that.

second breathing is for the soul to balance the frequency the harmony when you breathe through the nose you start to meditate even if you are not meditating so you are connecting with that and as i said laughter remember to laugh about everything

because uh

after that any spiritual or or any tool whatever you can choose in your life it doesn't matter if you follow those three your body will be aligned with your purpose wow

there's the formula for getting to heaven, guys.

Yep, yeah, that's powerful.

It's very simple and also very complicated.

Yeah, people overmake it for sure.

Yeah, wow, digital social hour, guys.

Thanks for tuning in.

I'll see you guys next time.