Why Jackson Hinkle Wants to Invade Canada | Digital Social Hour #35

Why are we spending this money on Ukraine when we could literally have Canada?

So you want to send troops to Canada and totally take over?

Yeah, that also, that's what I was discussing with Kanye because he liked the idea.

Welcome to the Digital Social Podcast.

I'm your host, Sean Kelly.

I'm here with my co-host, Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up?

And our guest today, Jackson Hinkle.

Jackson Hinkle, the man, the myth, the legend.

Thank you for having me on.

What's up, man?

How you feeling?

Good.

Good.

In Las Vegas, away from California.

Couldn't be better.

You know, if I ain't knowing you better, I think you were dressed like a politician.

Hmm.

Because of his dress?

Yeah, he's dripped.

Blue.

Yeah.

Dripped out, man.

Yeah, he's dressed in blue.

Would you label yourself as a politician?

Yeah.

If I was a politician, like if i was a

political commentator political commentator i got a youtube show i debate people a lot i follow the news right and i give my opinions on what's happening in the world now do you debate people because they're wrong or do you debate people because it's just a different point of view your point of view or you know are you correcting most of the time or are you just kind of just stirring the pot most of the time it's stirring the pot i think okay internet stuff if i want to have like a serious conversation with someone usually there's no need for cameras right like if i'm trying to learn something i'll usually just approach it like an interview there's plenty of people i interview and i learn a lot from them so right yeah i think uh if i'm approaching it like a debate i already have it set in my mind that the person's wrong i feel that so you you're going into to a debate and your opinion can't be changed basically Can be changed, but I've never lost a debate.

So, you know,

I think I'm 10-0.

I've never lost a debate.

I've never had my opinion change in one of those debates.

I've, you know, like

my girlfriend's very smart.

She changes my opinion.

She corrects me all the time.

So there's people who correct me all the time.

But

the debates, people like Destiny, Vosh, these sorts of characters on the internet, you know, they literally walk around with blue hair saying that men are women and women are men and that like God is evil and stuff.

So people like that, they have no chance of changing my mind about anything.

And do you feel like you gain it a lot of you gain a lot of enemies by simply simply just being right?

And are those people uncomfortable with what the truth is?

Of course.

Being right is the most evil thing on the planet today.

To say the true things in this world is the most evil thing because just look at what they're doing on social media.

If you say the truth on Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, they'll censor you, shadow ban all that stuff.

They'll try to get rid of you.

So why is the truth so taboo now?

Like what are we, what are we actually hiding?

Like, you know, like,

Why do they not want us to know what the truth is?

I thought

that's important, right?

I mean, we were taught not to lie.

We're taught not to lie, but look at how effective lying is.

With lying to

the American populace and to most of the populations in Western countries,

you've now turned.

You've turned these countries of strong men.

You guys ever hear the saying that strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make tough times, and tough times make strong men.

I haven't heard that whole spiel, but I've heard bits and pieces of it for sure.

So is that what's going on with Andrew Tate, too, in a way?

Yeah, I think we're in tough times and

we're on the verge of coming out of tough times in the West.

And I think it's creating some pretty strong men.

Andrew Tate is one of them, of course.

But there's others.

There's others.

There's quite a few.

Let's hear names.

I think the most courageous people on the face of the planet today are, well, Andrew Tate, of course.

So Andrew Tate would be number one.

So this is like the hip-hop list.

Like, who's your top five?

Who's your top five toughest people right now?

Top five toughest people right now on the face of the planet.

Right.

In no particular order.

Andrew Tate, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, Kim Jong-un,

and

who's your fifth?

Me.

Okay.

Okay, so why Andrew Tate at number one?

Well, you said no list, but why.

Yeah, why was he technically number one from a psychological standpoint?

He's the most famous man on the face of the planet.

I mean,

and he's so committed.

So right when Andrew and Tristan got out of prison, they were put in the Romanian prison.

And the day this happened, everyone on the internet, we were all in the Twitter spaces, tens of thousands of people tuning into these Twitter spaces.

And I was like, look, guys, there's no evidence.

There's no proof.

And let's not forget what they did to Julian Assange.

You guys know Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks publisher?

When they first tried to go after julian assange and extradite him to the united states they drew up bogus rape charges against him and then they tried it's like the number one thing they did it's easy they tried to extradite him to sweden yeah lo and behold like two years later after trying to do that uh the united nations came out and said that there was no evidence of any sort of like rape uh that julian assange had committed and i was like this really smells like the same thing mark twain said that history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes and there was a lot of rhyming going on with the andrew tate case.

And then, as soon as they get out, you know, they're in prison for what, like five months or something.

As soon as they get out, the first thing he says to me is he's like, he's like, you know, thanks for, you know, the support, but we got a lot of work to do.

Let's keep focused.

Do you know, do you believe that with, you know, you being one of those toughest people, do you ever fear that you might be killed one day or assassinated or poisoned or imprisoned for the wrong thing or, you know, maybe wrapped up in some kind of scandal that you may not be able to get away from.

I do you fear that?

Like, is that a fear of yours?

It's something that could happen, whether or not I fear, I don't really fear it because I already know what's happening.

I've been banned from PayPal, Venmo, Twitch, YouTube.

Uh, I've been the Ukrainian government put me on a kill list called Miro Trets.

They've killed dozens of people from that list, kids, adults.

You serious?

Yeah, they just killed a 28-year-old woman who was the daughter of a popular journalist in Russia.

Wow.

And, you know, they put me on that list about six months ago.

And maybe it wasn't even that long ago, like four months ago.

And that was pretty frightening when I got put on that list.

Yeah.

How did you find out you're put on the list?

It's a public list.

Wow.

So they announce who they're going to kill.

Yeah.

So Ukraine has this website where it's called Mirred Forettes.

And what they do is they post your picture.

And they post the alleged crime against Ukraine that you committed.

And it's a kill list.

And if they kill you, they put

they put

something like killed over your picture in a big red, like, like, and they're really dead.

Those people are really dead.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They killed Darya Dugina in a car bombing.

They killed Tatarsky in a bombing in a cafe a couple of weeks ago in St.

Petersburg.

Wow.

So do you feel like Andrew Tate might be next?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, he said it himself, right?

He said that first they're going to try to cancel me, then they're going to try to imprison me, and then they're going to try to kill me.

What's he posting?

he's posting this thing about how he's been poisoned yeah he was swollen he was swollen i mean i don't know what that is there's a lot of things that could uh make you have adverse health impacts these days but um

it's questionable it's questionable you wonder um you know who's cooking his food who's serving him drinks yeah that's wild

what are your thoughts on cancel culture do you believe in free speech I 100% believe in free speech.

I'm a free speech absolutist.

My ancestors sailed over here on the Mayflower.

They fought in the American Revolution.

They fought in the Civil War on the right side.

And, you know, they, it's like so much blood of our ancestors has been shed and spilled to try and protect what our founding fathers set forward in this country, which is different than any other country on the face of the planet.

Cancel culture is just an effort to silence the truth-tellers.

It's an effort to further propagate the notion that God is evil, that men are women, that politicians should be rich, that you should hate your ancestors, that food is okay to be poisonous.

All this stuff, you know, that medicine can hurt you.

It's very troubling what we're seeing happening right now, but it wouldn't be as successful.

These, these, whatever the elite are doing right now, it would not be as successful if it were not for the success of cancel culture.

Now, you said you watched the news.

I'm curious where you watch the news because a lot of news is

skeptical.

You know, where are you getting your news?

Well, I was getting a lot of my news from Tucker Carlson.

I mean, he there's a lot of things I do.

Are y'all beefing?

Am I beefing with Tucker?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, no, no.

I love Tucker.

I love Tucker.

Okay, okay.

He had me on his show and I helped write a number of his nightly monologues and stuff.

So the stuff that they say online is like, y'all are not, they try to put it.

No, no, yeah.

Everyone's trying to, you know, pin pin you guys against one another.

Exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

There's only a certain number of like popular truth tellers and they always want to pin you against each other and stuff.

But

divide and conquer.

But Tucker, you know, Tucker, he got fired.

And that's why I'm not.

I like Tucker.

But I don't think Tucker, I think him getting fired probably was the best thing for him.

Mm-hmm.

I think he's going to explode now.

I think he's going to be way bigger because now the walls, there's no walls.

Well, he's going to get shot up and too on top of that.

Oh, yes.

Oh, so they're going to shut him up for sure.

They're going to try to.

Well, think about this.

On Fox News, Tucker Carlson was the number one

news host on all of the media.

And he was averaging three to four million views a night on his Fox News show on cable.

Got about 2 million views in addition to that from Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube.

When he'd uploaded his videos, there he leaves Fox News, they fired him, and he goes and uploads a video to Twitter.

That video that he uploaded on Twitter within 24 hours got 70 million views.

Exactly.

So he's, I think him being fired was probably the best thing for him.

But I get what you're saying, too.

They're going to try to cancel him, but I think there's places that he can go that he'll be okay.

That's true.

Twitter, he'll be good with Elon there.

Twitter,

he'll be definitely good there so who are some people you are beefing with like

who are some of your some of your like rivals like and why the main ones yeah and why

uh

i beef with a lot of people i beef with uh the ukrainian government of course i beef with um

that destiny destiny is a big guy he's a big you know political youtube guy that i beef a lot with he runs around with the blue hair you know destiny is so interesting people sometimes have said to me jackson are you afraid to debate this destiny guy because he's a big political guy on youtube he's been doing this for years he's very smart and it's like no i'm not afraid to debate destiny because i'm a retard you know and like america's retarded and that's why we got trump elected and you know they always say destiny always says oh america's so stupid whatever no well maybe america's stupid but that's why we win and destiny runs around and he lets his wife f other men and he's open about this he's a cock oh he's a swinger swinger well i don't know

the swinger went swing both ways that's a man and woman oh it's one side he said he's he let his wife he was like these people were pressing him about it on his stream and he's like you know what well i know that at the end of the day whoever my wife goes to hang out with she's going to be coming back home to me at night and she loves me and i was like

how is this

We've we literally built our own country in the face of British imperialism and now we have blue-haired men who are letting their wife go get fucked by like random random dudes across the street.

What is happening?

So you're a monogamous guy.

You wouldn't try

any weird stuff.

I mean, you're with Miss Russia, right?

I'm dating Miss Universe Russia.

Beautiful woman.

How did that happen?

I slid in her DMs.

They said Putin hooked you up with her.

I wish that was the case.

I love Putin.

But I've never met Putin.

I'd love to meet Putin.

I sent him a letter at the start of the war.

You, you.

You met Yado, right?

I FaceTimed him.

Oh, you FaceTimed him?

Wow.

How did that happen?

So there's a, you know, he was running for president.

A lot of people know that.

And his campaign didn't go very far.

I think he kind of nipped that in the bud.

But he, you know, some friends of mine were leading his campaign and involved with the campaign.

And

something I'm really passionate about, like our founding fathers in the United States believe that you guys know what Manifest Destiny is, like westward expansion.

Hold on.

I don't.

I haven't heard it.

I haven't heard it.

When we had like the colonies in the United States, or it wasn't the United States, we had British colonies.

The Brits didn't want us to expand past like Eastern Mountains into Western America and develop Western America and tap into all those vital resources because they were fearful that those colonies would break off and form a country, a nation state.

But the founding fathers all wanted to not only extend all the way to California, they wanted to take it all the way to Mexico,

invade Canada, and liberate Canada and bring that into the United States.

And I think that we should do it.

I think that we should invade Canada.

Why are we spending this money on Ukraine when we could literally have Canada?

You know, we've spent $200 billion on Ukraine for what?

For what?

Most of it's being siphoned off into like black markets and offshore accounts and Zelensky's buying these mansions in Italy and Miami, Lake Coma, wherever.

What if we just took Canada?

It's a nice country.

They have a lot of oil and

it would just basically achieve the American dream.

So you want to send troops to Canada and totally take over?

Yeah, yeah, I think.

Do you think we have to fight Canada or they'll probably just be like, here, you guys can have it?

Well,

but long story short, that also, that's what I was discussing with Kanye because he liked the idea.

He liked the idea of invading Canada.

I never even thought about invading Canada because we more so like cater to them.

They're like, you know, our

friend.

We don't really mess with them.

Well, there's like two factors to it because right now there's that Trudeau government in Canada.

Yeah, for sure.

And it's so sad to see what's happening there.

You know, censorship is bad in America, but in Canada,

if you say the wrong thing, you could literally be fined or imprisoned.

Wow.

And I'm not making that up, but it's very real.

And in addition to that, you also have the age-old fight between Britain and the U.S.

Britain financed Canada in the War of 1812 when they burned down the White House.

So Canada has been used as a proxy by the British Empire against the U.S.

for years.

And it seems like we're friends with the Brits right now, but a lot of top American political elites are not like Trump hates Britain and the city of London.

So I think that it would be just to avoid any further wars in the future, we should just go in and take it.

Interesting.

So Jackson, what is it that you're trying to gain?

What's your motive?

What's your MO in doing all this?

Do you want to

be a name in history or leave a legacy?

Or do you want to be the guy that

gets killed trying to save us that but that's just the thing if you try to be the one guy rather than craft a movement a popular movement that actually responds to the needs of people you will end up dead you know you will 100 you need to have you're okay with that no i don't want that i don't want

that

but uh that's the thing it's like it's it's about educating people and trying to break through these social media walls and these censorship walls to try and get the truth out there.

You consider yourself a communist.

I'm curious, what are your thoughts on China issuing social scores to everyone?

And what's going to happen with this break shit?

Yeah, both good questions.

The social credit

score stuff is mostly bullshit.

It's no worse than what we have in America with our own

credit cards and having social media basically follow around.

I would personally say.

You know, the like liberal media hype stuff, like Vice News, they hype up the whole social credit score thing in China, but it's really not

developed, I guess, if it's ever going to be anything.

But in the United States, we have cancel culture.

We have cancel culture.

Which is worse than that, right?

Almost.

Because that's kind of a score

that they're keeping.

They're keeping a score on.

And they control it.

You have all the people in.

These talent agencies, media representative agencies like CAA, who are leading the fight for the Me Too movement and saying we need to protect women.

Meanwhile, they're selling all of their women clients to Harvey Weinstein, knowing full well what Harvey Weinstein is doing.

And they're championing Me Too movement while they're letting Harvey Weinstein, you know,

young women

represent.

Harvey Weinstein with the show, right?

But this is before this was this was exposed about the MeToo.

Well, they say he's not even dead, so who knows?

Uh, Harvey, Harvey Weinstein is a lot.

Jeffrey Epstein is the guy who's dead.

Oh, Jeffrey Epstein.

Yeah, okay.

Yes, lots of newspapers.

Why do their names sound so much alike?

Harvey Weinstein, Jesse.

Yeah, that Epstein stuff was crazy.

Both of them are crazy to me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was revealed just this week that Jeffrey Epstein, Wall Street Journal, reported this week that Jeffrey Epstein had meetings with the head of the CIA or with a number of White House officials.

We know Bill Clinton, but White House officials under the Barack Obama administration, Noam Chomsky, who's a very popular American linguist and political dissident.

That stuff goes deep.

He surrounded himself with a lot of people.

I think it was.

And they all basically knew?

No, no, no.

I think a lot of people knew.

John McCain's wife was speaking at an event two weeks ago, and she said,

or I guess John McCain's widow.

John McCain's widow was speaking at an event two weeks ago, and she said, we all knew what was going on with Jeffrey Epstein, but, you know, we didn't have any way to bring him to justice.

It's like.

If you guys knew, and the Reddit CEO, former Reddit CEO, admitted this as well, this Asian lady, she said that we all knew.

If you all knew, why didn't you say anything?

Yeah, I think no one is being involved.

Goes deep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, you speak out on that.

You're, you know, you're dead.

Yeah,

pretty much.

Sure.

Who do you think is going to win presidency in 2024?

Trump 100% is going to win the presidency.

Even if he's running from prison, he's still going to win.

The one thing I think that could make Trump's odds a lot better and potentially his administration much more interesting is if he runs on a joint ticket with lifelong Democrat Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

Yeah, I think that'd be great and Trump's right-hand man was a very famed political strategist in the US Roger Stone.

He actually proposed that idea.

Interesting, and I think it would be beautiful.

They align on a lot of issues, not all issues, but I think we've learned to actually appreciate Trump now today.

I think everybody

hated Trump at the start.

Really?

Yeah.

Why?

Well, for starters, I used to be more liberal, but also Trump at the start of his administration, for most of his administration, actually,

he just surrounded himself by these like deep state intelligence, military-industrial complex goons that were just keeping us in all the wars, preventing him from pardoning Assange, keeping the JFK CIA assassination files closed and not leaked to the press and stuff.

It was a very bad time.

Interesting.

You know?

I feel that.

And why are you such a fan of Putin?

Because I bet if you walk the streets and interview people, most would say they're not fond of him.

Yeah, why do you like him so much?

Oddly enough, I have done street interviews and I did it in Dallas and I was asking people the question, would you rather have Biden or Putin as your president?

And, you know, as an American, I hate Biden, but I'd probably rather have Biden because he's an American.

I don't want someone from a foreign country leading us.

But,

you know, Putin is, the reason I like Putin so much is because he is

single-handedly reshaping the world and how, you know, geopolitics operate.

He is taken from the start of his presidency.

Everyone thought he was a weak man.

Everyone thought he was just going to basically go.

Oh, so they thought the same thing about him that we think about Biden?

Yeah, yeah, but he was put in, he was basically appointed in Russia at a very, very calamitous time for the country.

You had the Chechen wars going on.

The economic situation in Russia was very poor.

But

he was appointed president essentially.

He became president.

And not so long after Putin became president, he engaged and began to structure his multi-decade-long plan to basically replace the dollar's global supremacy to challenge U.S.

military superiority and to build a new multipolar world with countries like China and BRICS nations.

And now we're seeing that unfold.

It's beautiful.

Was the Britney Gronner thing

his way of getting his guy back?

And do you think we should have gave up a warlord

for Brittany Gronner?

Well, yeah, that was a bad trade.

That was a bad trade.

That was a bad trade.

They said it was the first trade, WNBA trade, anyone ever cared about.

Wow.

It was a bad trade.

It was a bad trade.

So do you think she should have, I mean, but her staying in jail for nine years for a vape pen is kind of ridiculous.

You go to another country, you got to play by their rules.

You know, lots of Eastern nations, they play very, very uh conservatively about drugs sex all that stuff you know yeah and what do you think um

our

thing is now when it comes to like what's going on with the fentanyl and like like is that are they putting that stuff here with the what with fentanyl yeah with with fentanyl like why is what's what's going on with that i don't know too much about that but all i all i will say about that i i don't speak on things i don't know anything about and i don't know a whole lot about that but what i will say about fentanyl and the opioid crisis is like

Why is it that everyone's so consumed with putting people like Andrew Tate in prison and Julian Assange in prison when you know how is it like one in five one in four deaths in America?

I don't know if it's that it's probably around that are from opioid deaths.

But the people that are prescribing opioid left and right that are making these drugs, they're all free and they're billionaires and they're on their yachts and they're completely fine.

No one's talking about putting them in prison.

But Andrew Tate and Julian Assange.

They got to stay in prison.

you know do you believe in any government conspiracy theories of course which ones uh

i think i think the biggest one i believe in is

it is almost a certainty at this point that the cia assassinated not just john f kennedy but also martin luther king and robert f kennedy jr wow yeah i mean i've seen a video of the john f kenny i don't know if it's real but the guy in the front actually shot him yeah what from the front of the car it was he was in the car with him really i haven't seen that yeah so there's a video of the guy turning around actually shooting him no way right so it looks like an assassination on a normal video but a guy slowed it down and apparently it was a guy that was actually in the car with him wait so the driver shot him the person he turned around and did it yeah whoa it's a video out there i don't know how real it is or so

i'll buy anything at this point it's like you know the the the official story is that a bullet entered from behind him and then came out and then went back in from the opposite direction up all the way through his neck and then out the other side again.

That's what they taught in school, yeah.

Yeah, it's the magic bullet theory.

And then Robert F.

Kennedy Jr., they say Sirhan Sirhan killed him, but Sir Han Sirahan's gun didn't have

enough spaces for the bullets that were actually fired into Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.'s body.

And the bullets came from the opposite direction.

Yeah, even with Malcolm X, they said Malcolm X, the people that supposedly I shot him from the bottom had blanks, all the bullets came from up top.

Wow, yeah,

that's scary, man.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah, I don't know what to believe, man.

Yeah,

what do you think about Trump getting arrested?

Uh,

I think it's cool.

You think it's cool?

Yeah, I think it's cool.

I, it was dope actually seeing you know, with a free Trump shirt on.

Trump is actually a marketing genius, bro.

He's so like, he pivots very well on on everything like he doesn't flinch at all

i actually like trump because he's real he's very authentic i like his policies too and his beliefs and what he stands on but is he a truth teller is trump a truth teller and that's why they need him away yeah because think about it bro he had to create his own platform to have a voice they he was he's banned from the internet yeah yeah trump's ip cannot like he's banned from the internet.

Yeah.

And it's not just being a truth teller.

You also have to have the intellect and the knowledge base to be able to communicate the truth.

And Trump doesn't have that necessarily because, I mean, he's a businessman.

He's not consumed by politics.

He's not consumed by all this stuff.

He never has been.

I mean, he is a reality show celebrity businessman, very successful, but he's surrounding himself more and more by people who do have that knowledge base.

And that is extremely frightening to people like Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, you know, all these people.

So you wouldn't consider him a truth, uh, truth-teller?

I think he is.

I think he is, but I think that, uh, you know, he's he, the, the reason why he's dangerous is because he surrounded people who actually have the knowledge base.

He's surrounded by the truth tellers.

Yeah.

We'll wrap it up on this.

I'm curious.

You mentioned you've been talking to Tate.

Can you mention what you guys were talking about?

Yeah, you know, we just talk about the

state of our country and where it needs to go.

Broadly speaking, he's not able to do any media stuff right now because he's still on house arrest.

But look, I mean, like,

it's just really crazy to me that people like, the reason why people like Tate are so vilified is because if you ask a hundred guys, a hundred straight men in the country today, like, would you suck a dick for a million dollars?

99 of those hundred men are going to say, yeah, I'll suck a dick.

Okay, well, that's a problem if you're all straight.

It's right?

Yeah, that's right.

It's a problem.

But like, that's a problem with society.

If you'll suck a dick for a million dollars, but you say you're straight, you're not straight.

You're gay.

And that's where our society's at.

We're the warriors.

They're not here anymore.

Wow, it's a powerful closing message right there.

Yeah, it's powerful.

Where could people find you, man?

Because you're banned.

Where can people find you?

I am back on YouTube.

I'm back on YouTube, but permanently demonetized there.

But I'm YouTube, The Dive with Jackson Hinkle, Rumble, same thing.

And then Twitter.

Twitter's where it gets very fun.

Jackson Hinkle and Twitter.

There we go, Wayne.

You can follow me on Instagram at the Creator.

Sean Kelly here, Digital Social Hour.

Thanks for tuning in.

Peace.