RHS 154 - How to Overcome Your Fear and Dominate Inbound Lead Generation
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Episode Highlights:
Ryan discusses some of the key points of Ryan Holiday's book, The Obstacle Is the Way (5:15)
Ryan explains how we can use fear as a signal to take action on the work that needs to be done. (8:54)
Ryan discusses what would happen if he let fear prevent him from recording a solo episode. (11:51)
Ryan believes we never know which content will be a hit, but we can generate more the next day, because it’s about releasing material and letting the market decide. (17:41)
Ryan mentions he'll keep creating content, educating, and helping people with insurance problems because he doesn't know which videos are good and which are bad. (22:56)
Ryan explains how he answers every question on their YouTube channel's comment section since he has no clue which response to which inquiry may lead to someone contacting him and doing business. (25:06)
Ryan goes over several techniques for creating video material. (30:47)
Ryan reminds us that we must not allow our fear to prevent us from fulfilling the duties we have set out to complete. (38:58)
Key Quotes:
“We can allow fear, false evidence appearing real, we can allow our perception of what might happen if we take a certain action keep us from doing that action. Or, we can use that fear as a signal. We can use it as a compass point, we can use it as our North Star for what needs to be done the work that needs to be done.” - Ryan Hanley
“It's not about which piece of content wins. It's about putting the content out there and allowing the market to choose.” - Ryan Hanley
“I will keep creating content, I'll keep educating, I will keep bringing value to people who have questions about insurance.” - Ryan Hanley
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Speaker 1 Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the
Speaker 1 show.
Speaker 1 It's gonna be a tremendous episode, or at least I hope, as it is another solo episode. Now, you might be saying, Ryan, what the hell is going on here? What's with all these solo episodes?
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This is supposed to be an interview show. Well, first, it's my show, so I can do whatever the hell I want with it.
So I'd appreciate it if you didn't judge me. Second of all...
Speaker 1 I've been so freaking busy lately that I just straight have not had the time to book guests.
Speaker 1 But I do have some great guests that I have scheduled out through the remainder of August that'll be hitting the show. And then,
Speaker 1 you know, you guys know I don't do a tremendous amount of planning, mostly because I try to keep my head on the swivel, find people that are doing cool things or are in the mood to share.
Speaker 1 And when they are, I love having them on the show. And when that doesn't happen, then I just talk about random shit like.
Speaker 1 This would have been if I hadn't texted my homeboy, Gordon Coyle, president of the Coyle Group, Coyle Insurance Group.
Speaker 1 And if you want to hear Gordon's episode on the show, I think it was about two months ago, he was on, absolutely tremendous episode. Gordon is the man.
Speaker 1 And
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that episode was Gangster Gangster. So I was texting Gordon.
I said, hey, man, I'm doing a solo episode again.
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I have some ideas for what I want to talk about. What do you think? And he shared a story.
He was talking with a young producer at a different agency, a buddy of his, a buddy of Gordon's,
Speaker 1 a producer in his agency, he was talking to him about creating content. And
Speaker 1 what
Speaker 1 this kid was telling Gordon was, you know, I know I need to be creating content and doing video, but, you know, and then he had a whole bunch of excuses. And Gordon just texts back, fear.
Speaker 1 And then he texted me like the next day, I guess today.
Speaker 1 Fear equals false evidence appearing real.
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So that's an acronym, false evidence appearing real. Fear makes a lot of sense to me.
Fear keeps us from moving forward. And this isn't going to be like a fluffy philosophical episode.
Speaker 1 I want to talk how do we tactically, from a new business production standpoint, how do we overcome the fears and maybe even go a little bit further, how do we recognize that our excuses are nothing but fear and then overcome them to actually create the content, to
Speaker 1 make the calls, you know, send the letters, do the follow-ups, whatever that thing is that's keeping you from getting to where your goal,
Speaker 1 how do we stop fear from,
Speaker 1 you know, disabling us, from
Speaker 1 shutting us down, from, you know, allowing us to tell ourselves these little white lies that, you know, we know aren't actually the truth, but they're just believable enough that they keep us from doing that thing that we we know will make us productive.
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So let's get into this episode right now. So I want to read you a couple things.
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I just finished the book, The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday. Absolutely tremendous book.
The obstacle is the way.
Speaker 1 Now, the name kind of gives away what the entire book is about, but this is a book worth reading. I absolutely love it.
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This is actually the second time that I've read this book, and I've also listened to it on audiobook once. That's right.
So, this is my third time going through this book. But I want to read to you
Speaker 1 just a few quotes from this book, because when I started adopting this stoic philosophy, and again, when I say adopting, please do not take it as like,
Speaker 1 you know,
Speaker 1 I'm monkish about this.
Speaker 1 That is definitely not the case.
Speaker 1 But, you know, it is something that I think about.
Speaker 1 It's something that, especially when bigger obstacles present themselves, I try to set my mind to the fact that this obstacle, this struggle, this pain has been put in front of me for a purpose, to get better in some way.
Speaker 1 That by focusing on solving this problem or sidestepping this problem or making sure this problem never happens again, by doing that work, I am strengthening myself.
Speaker 1 I'm creating positivity because I'm working towards a goal, right? Like,
Speaker 1 love Ryan Holiday's work, love this concept of the obstacles away. So, uh, the entire book, I'd say, from
Speaker 1 the through thought
Speaker 1 is the work of Marcus Aurelius, uh, one of the most well-known, most popular, and most successful Roman emperors.
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And he wrote a series, a series of diary entries that were never meant to be published in a book called Meditations. And you can go get that book.
It's a tremendous book.
Speaker 1 Highly, highly recommend that book. You will, you will read it and
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you'll put the book down. You'll be like, holy crap.
Like 2,000 years,
Speaker 1 2,000 plus years ago, this guy was struggling with legitimately the same thoughts, same insecurities, same conflict that I'm dealing with today. And
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it's wild and powerful. And I got a tremendous amount out of that book as well.
But so I'd say that book and the thoughts, life,
Speaker 1 history of Marcus Aurelius is the through line. And then throughout the book,
Speaker 1 Ryan brings in all kinds of stories, both modern and historic. And again, the book is tremendous.
Speaker 1 But at the very beginning of the book, we're not even into the actual book yet. We're still in the preface.
Speaker 1 Ryan Holiday, the author of The Obstacles Away, quotes Marcus Aurelius from his book, Meditations.
Speaker 1 The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.
Speaker 1 I'm going to read that to you again. The impediment to action advances action.
Speaker 1 What stands in the way becomes the way.
Speaker 1 Absolutely.
Speaker 1 This, if you can, if you can hold on to that concept,
Speaker 1 don't think it's fluffy philosophy. It's not.
Speaker 1 Don't wrap this in some sort of, you know,
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kumbaya kind of crap. That's not what this is in any way, shape, or form.
This guy was a general. He was a warrior.
He was a politician.
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He was all these things that had to deal with constant struggle. This is real-world advice.
And when you think about it, think about the things in your life that become challenges.
Speaker 1 We can either shy away from them. We can allow fear, false evidence appearing real.
Speaker 1 We can allow our perception of what might happen if we take a certain action keep us from doing that action, or we can use that fear as a signal. We can use it as a compass point, right?
Speaker 1 We can use it as our North Star for what needs to be done, the work that needs to be done. Sometimes we just need to have our ass kicked,
Speaker 1 our head bashed in.
Speaker 1 Sometimes you just need to get punched in the gut and feel that intense pain to harden, to get better, to get stronger, right?
Speaker 1 That's how we improve. If you're not taking shots,
Speaker 1 if you're not getting beat up, then what are you doing?
Speaker 1 Where's the progress if you're not feeling pain? And, you know, that's kind of, and I know, you know, again, if you're a field general, then, you know, that, that makes a lot of sense.
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Or if you're a professional athlete, that might make a lot of sense. But guys, this isn't, this is my point.
This, this, this extends.
Speaker 1 This extends out to our entire lives. This, this extends to
Speaker 1 everything, to, to, to that call that you're, you're unwilling to make, to that, to that, that, that piece of content you're not willing to create, to that follow-up you're not willing to do, to that event that you are unwilling to go to, to that referral partner that you're afraid to ask for 10 minutes of their time, right?
Speaker 1 It's all of these. But the fact that you don't want to make that cold call means that that's a place that you have to point your activity, that you have to point your mind.
Speaker 1 Why are you unwilling to make that cold call? That video that you're unwilling to make. Why are you unwilling to create that video? What is it? Is it that you feel insecure about your knowledge?
Speaker 1 Is it that you don't like the way you look? Is it that you don't like the way you sound? Is it you don't think people will care?
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Those are all fears. Those aren't real.
Someone's going to like the content. Someone's going to think you look fine.
Someone's not going to care the way you sound.
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Someone is going to wanna watch that video. It's fear.
It's your perception.
Speaker 1 You're putting out into the future some idea that hasn't happened yet and using that as justification for not taking action, right?
Speaker 1 Think about, think about, think about Rocky, right? Rocky's talking to his kid, and I think this is Rocky four or five.
Speaker 1 It's the one where they have the video game and then Rocky beats the current champ in the video game and whatever. And he says, it ain't how hard, it ain't about how hard you hit.
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It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, right? Like, think about that concept. And again, I'm not trying to get woo-woo on you.
I want you to create more content.
Speaker 1 I want you to make more phone calls. I want you to plow through this.
Speaker 1 What I want you to know is every single person listening to this podcast right now, and there are thousands of you, multiple thousands.
Speaker 1 On a good month, there's 10,000 of you listening to this podcast, right?
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Every single one of the other people, not you, every single one of the other people on this call has fears. We all do this.
I do this.
Speaker 1 When I create episodes like this, these solo episodes where I'm kind of just going after it, getting after it, I don't know what I'm going to say half the time. I mean, I have a concept.
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I write down some notes. I have a kind of through line narrative that I want to try to hit.
Obviously, I want to deliver value to you, but what if it's terrible? What if you hate it?
Speaker 1 What if I, you know, make some off-color joke that you don't like or some conservative or, you know, libertarian reference that offends somebody?
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You know, I don't want to do that or, you know, whatever. I just, you know, things come out of my mouth as I'm, as I'm moving forward in my mind.
And I, I, I don't know if you're going to like this.
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You could hate it and unsubscribe. And then I've just lost a subscriber.
And the more subscribers that I lose, the less people want to sponsor the show.
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And the less people want to sponsor the show, the more inadequate I feel. And the more inadequate I feel, the less I want to do this podcast.
And the less I do the podcast, the worse I get at it.
Speaker 1 And as I get worse, then you actually do go listen to someone else.
Speaker 1 And now, from me just thinking that you may not like something that I said in one solo episode, I've taken this fear all the way through to the point where I just stopped the the podcast because no one wants to listen to it anymore.
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I mean, that's bananas. It's bananas when I describe it to you that way.
But that is what we all do every day with the things that create fear.
Speaker 1 So what we want to do is use fear.
Speaker 1 Use fear as a compass needle, as a North Star. Use it as
Speaker 1 a set of guideposts. Why are you allowing false evidence that appears to be real,
Speaker 1 fear?
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Why are we allowing that to keep us from doing the work that we know we need to do? Look, I'm not saying it's easy. It's definitely not easy.
I mean,
Speaker 1 there's no doubt it's not easy, right?
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It's not easy. Let's just put it that way.
It's not easy. None of this is easy.
I'm not saying it's easy.
Speaker 1 And frankly, a lot of times when I do episodes like this, I'm trying to talk myself into something, right?
Speaker 1 Like, like me talking to you about this is me trying to solidify in my brain that I'm going to use my fear as a compass needle, that I'm going to use it as a North Star, that it's going to be, it's going to be the guide rails for where I need to focus my attention, right?
Speaker 1 That's what this is.
Speaker 1 So, Marcus Aurelius and Rocky weren't the only ones to have similar thoughts. Benjamin Franklin, Benjamin Franklin
Speaker 1 once wrote, the things which hurt, instruct.
Speaker 1 Right?
Speaker 1 It's so simple.
Speaker 1 When you make that cold call and that guy picks up the phone and you start in your pitch and he hangs that phone up or says, hey, don't bother me anymore, you asshole, click.
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And you feel terrible, right? You feel terrible. Who wouldn't feel terrible? That's a terrible thing.
I mean, it doesn't mean you suck. It doesn't mean you shouldn't make another phone call.
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What it means is maybe your pitch wasn't on point for that particular prospect. Maybe he was having a bad day.
Maybe his wife just told him that she was cheating on him.
Speaker 1 Or maybe, you know, maybe, maybe reverse. Maybe it's a her who picked up the phone and her husband just told her that he's got $50,000 in gambling debt that he's been hiding from her.
Speaker 1 And now you cold call her, and all she wants to do is rage on you because she can't rage on her husband at that point or whatever. You know, I mean, who the hell knows? People are having bad days.
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People have all kinds of things. Maybe she just lost a huge client.
Maybe she just made a cold call and had some guy call her an asshole and hang up on her.
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So when you cold call her, she wants to, she's feeling so shitty that she does it to you. There's a million reasons why a cold call might not go the way that you would like it to go.
And the point is,
Speaker 1 you don't know unless you pick up the phone and you make the call, right? This is something I'm working through with my kid with hitting, right? So my son plays baseball.
Speaker 1 He's a very good baseball player. At eight, he's better than I was at 12.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 I'm very proud of him and all that kind of of stuff.
Speaker 1 But he gets a little fearful sometimes in the batter's box.
Speaker 1 Not so much about getting hit with the ball, but he's fearful of getting out, right? He doesn't want to get out. He doesn't want to strike out in particular.
Speaker 1 Less scared of getting out as much as he doesn't want to strike out. In his mind, striking out is like the worst possible thing that could happen is striking out.
Speaker 1 And what I've tried to tell him is:
Speaker 1 to get a hit, you got to strike out.
Speaker 1 If you step into the box, you're going to strike out eventually.
Speaker 1 And so, to get a hit, you got to step into the box.
Speaker 1 So, you have to be willing to accept the fact that there's going to be times when you get a hit, and there's going to be times when you strike out, and there's going to be times when you hit the ball as hard as you possibly can, and the short stop standing right there, and whack catches the ball.
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And in the book, you struck out, it looks like a weak ground ball, even though you clobbered it. It doesn't matter, you can't control the outcome.
All you can do is the work. That's all you can do.
Speaker 1 And that's all these guys are saying. From Marcus Aurelius 2,200 years ago to
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Rocky in the, that movie was probably came out in the knots, the 2000s or whatever. And then to Benjamin Franklin in the founding of our country to Ryan Holiday.
The obstacle is the way.
Speaker 1 Right? This. This concept, it's not rocket science, but you got to do the work.
Speaker 1 And when it comes to content, one of the things that I tell the people that I talk to about creating content over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 You never know which piece of content is going to be the home run.
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You don't. You don't know which piece of content, YouTube or Google or the Instagram algorithm or whatever.
You don't know which one of those.
Speaker 1 which which piece of content is going to be the one that takes off. You can follow every best practice, tip, trick, you know, gimmick scheme that you can possibly find online.
Speaker 1 And you absolutely have no, the hubris of you, the hubris, the
Speaker 1 ego,
Speaker 1 to think that you possibly have any idea which pieces of content are going to do well and which aren't is insanity. It's absolute insanity.
Speaker 1 You have no idea which one is going to hit and which one isn't.
Speaker 1 You could dial in every little lever
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and have it absolutely flop. The lighting could be perfect.
The framing could be perfect. Your pitch, your tone, the way you deliver it, you could look perfect.
Speaker 1 You could have perfect makeup on and perfect clothes and the sound and the backdrop. And
Speaker 1 it could absolutely bomb flop and get seven views and never have another view.
Speaker 1 And there's absolutely nothing you can do about that except show up again the next day and create another piece of content. Because it's not about which piece of content wins.
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It's about putting the content out there and allowing the market to choose. That's all you can do.
That is literally all you can do.
Speaker 1 You can follow, you know, Carruthers or Mick Hunt or Charles Speck or Billy Williams or Randy Schwantz or Insert, whatever other sales prospecting master guru is out there.
Speaker 1 And all of those guys and ladies,
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you know, other than Kelly Donahoe Piro, who crushes the service side, does a little bit of sales. I just don't know too many female sales trainers.
I apologize. If you're out there, hit me up.
Speaker 1 I have you on the show.
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All of them are rock stars. And their advice is absolutely amazing.
And it still doesn't fucking matter. You still just got to make the calls and let the prospects determine whether or not you wait.
Speaker 1 I mean, David Crothers wrote a book, The Extra Two Minutes, and I agree with him that taking a little extra time, thinking through your pitch, thinking through the way you position it, how you find little tidbits, maybe on their website or their socials to kind of connect with them, sure, that helps.
Speaker 1 But that guy could have just found out that
Speaker 1 his dog died 10 minutes before you called, and he tells you to go fly a kite. And there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1 There's nothing you could do.
Speaker 1 You could call that woman and she just lost her biggest client 10 minutes before to one of her competitors, and all she wants to do is freaking strangle somebody.
Speaker 1 And then you call with your cold call, and it's perfectly timed, and you have the right intro, and you're breaking patterns, and you have a little hook that you found from her social that allows you some common ground.
Speaker 1 And you could get to her, and she could absolutely bitch you out on the phone because
Speaker 1 she just lost her best client, and she has no one else to vent on but you.
Speaker 1
What are you you supposed to do with that? Does that mean you're terrible at cold call prospecting? No, it doesn't. It means she was having a bad day.
She didn't want to hear from you.
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That's all it means. Pick up the friggin' phone and make another call.
Now, look,
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I struggle with this immensely. This is like one of my biggest fear things.
And if I were still a day-to-day producer, I would have to work on this really hard. Thankfully.
Speaker 1 Thankfully, I'm not a day-to-day producer anymore.
Speaker 1 As much as I, that's why I give you guys so much credit. And I love producers because they, they're the, you put yourselves out there.
Speaker 1 And, and I guess all I'm saying is that this, this, this concept makes a ton of sense in cold calling. It makes a ton of sense if you're doing drop-ins still or going to networking events.
Speaker 1 And it makes just as much sense and is, is just as important when you're creating content, when you're doing digital marketing, when you're trying to get people to contact you.
Speaker 1 It is just, if not more important
Speaker 1 because
Speaker 1 you put that piece of content out there, it's a salesperson working for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And here's the key, my friends: you may put a piece of content out, and week one,
Speaker 1 nothing terrible. Month one, nothing.
Speaker 1 Wait, you're
Speaker 1 that was a waste of time. That content doesn't work, video doesn't work, social media doesn't work for us.
Speaker 1 In our part of the country, my clients don't go on the internet, you know, like all that stupid stuff. You could say all of it, and then a year from now, it absolutely blows up out of this world.
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Peace. Let's get back to the episode.
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Why would it do that? Because we don't control the algorithm. Someone could trip upon it, like it, share it.
10 more people come in, watch it. One of them likes it.
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One of them actually clicks through your link and calls you, fills out your form on your website. I mean, Google is tracking all of this stuff.
I'm talking about YouTube right now.
Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, YouTube's like, wait a minute, this video has a ton of value and starts showing it to a bunch of people and people start watching it. Now, here's how that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 Here's how what I just described,
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that kind of resurrection of content, how that doesn't happen is if you don't continue to do the work. Stop being egotistical.
Stop being selfish.
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Stop having the hubris to believe that you have any clue what you're doing. I don't.
I've created 350, some odd videos, 300. No, that's not
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305. That's not 350.
305. 305 videos on the Rogue Risk YouTube channel.
We've done 100,000 views in the last 365 days.
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I don't have a freaking clue which videos are the good ones and which are the bad. And I just simply don't care.
I just keep creating content. I just keep creating content.
Speaker 1 You cannot get me to stop creating content. I will keep creating content until I'm kicked out of Rogue Risk, until someone just puts a boot to my butt and shoves me out the door.
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I will keep creating content. I will keep creating content.
I will keep educating. I will keep bringing value to people who have questions about insurance.
Speaker 1 And I'm just going to keep going because I don't believe that I have any frigging clue which videos are going to be the good ones and which are the bad.
Speaker 1 And I, you know, since I, you know, since what happened with my wife and I or whatever, or ex-wife, you know, I started doing videos from my desk here in my apartment. So it looks a little different.
Speaker 1 I'll be honest with you, I was a little insecure at first when I started doing that because I was like, I had, you know, I had the office and the studio at the big house.
Speaker 1 I'm in a little apartment now. And
Speaker 1 I had, you know, the nice backdrop and it looked cool, it looked pro. That's great.
Speaker 1 And now I've kind of got this Angular side shot where I'm sitting and I'm trying to make an apartment desk look like an office desk. And at first, I was like, oh, you know, is this?
Speaker 1 And then I said, you know what? Fuck that. I'm going to keep delivering amazing content.
Speaker 1 And I guarantee no one's going to give a crap that I'm doing it from this kind of like angular side shot versus,
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you know, this really nice setup that I had at the old house. No one's going to care.
Guess what? No one's cared. No one cares.
No one cares. They just don't.
They don't care.
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So you got to keep creating content. Now, I'm going to give you, I'm going to show you this in a different way.
Here's a little different. Here's a little different, a little different method.
So
Speaker 1 we get a lot of comments on our YouTube channel. Some of them are bananas and some of them, them, especially the ones related to the carriers.
Speaker 1 Like if I do a carrier review or I talk about a carrier, a lot of times someone who's had a beef sometime with some carrier will find it and they'll, this carrier is the worst carrier ever.
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And I don't respond to those ones. But every other legitimate question, we probably get half dozen to a dozen questions a week.
I respond to all of them. Every single question.
Speaker 1 And you may be saying to yourself, Ryan, why would you do that? You're a busy, you know, leader of a company and you're growing. And, you know, right, I don't have time to respond to questions.
Speaker 1 and that's fine maybe you don't i don't believe you but but maybe that's true um
Speaker 1 you can make time uh i'm also a little crazy so you know just keep that in order but i'm also gangster gangster and we crush it so maybe you should be a little crazy too
Speaker 1 So so here's the deal. I answer every question because I have no idea who these people are and which one of them is going to contact us.
Speaker 1 I have no idea which response to which question is going to lead to someone contacting us and doing business with us.
Speaker 1 And when people see a video and scroll down and see that the company is actually responding to all the comments, they ask questions or they believe that we're legit and they click through the links.
Speaker 1 And I believe, though I have no qualitative evidence to back this up at all, that the fact that we've probably gotten a couple hundred at least, if not more, comments and I've responded to 75 to 80% of them with legit answers, not just thanks, but like real legit, sometimes paragraph long answers
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plays a role in the fact that we do so well on the channel. We're showing YouTube that we add value.
We're showing more importantly, insurance consumers who have an issue. And I just do it.
Speaker 1 I don't think to myself, oh, do I have the time? Or, oh, what if this answer isn't perfect? Or, oh, what if I respond to them and it's not exactly what I wanted to say? I don't belabor it.
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I just do it. I just respond to the question.
I move on with my life.
Speaker 1 Because one of those answers to one of those questions is going to yield one more person clicking through and becoming a client of Rogue Risk, or at least
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giving us a shot. And if we can help them, that's amazing.
Because I don't believe that I know the answers to any of the questions.
Speaker 1 I don't know which prospect's going to pick up the phone when I cold call. I don't know which channel partner is going to respond when I send them a cold, you know, video vidyard email.
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I don't know, you know, I don't know which piece of content is going to yield someone contacting us. I have no idea.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 This isn't, I'm not some master guru rocket scientist who's, you know, crafts this perfect piece of content and pushes it out in the world and just knows it's going to blow up.
Speaker 1 That's simply not the way that it works. I mean, look at the way Gary Vaynerchuk rose to the fame that he has today.
Speaker 1 That dude just created a massive, massive, unyielding, unrelenting amount of content. And in exchange, he became one of the most sought-after marketing and business speakers in the entire world.
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Now, you don't have to like Gary Vee. That's not my point.
My point is, he absolutely dominates.
Speaker 1 Dominates. You don't have to like him, but enough people do.
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Enough people do. And my friends, that's the point.
You don't need everybody to like you. Frankly, you don't want everyone to like you.
You know, you just don't.
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What you need is enough people to like you, just enough people to like you that you kick ass. That's it.
That's all you need. That's the secret.
That's the secret.
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You just need enough people to like you. That's all.
You should assume that when you do a video, someone's going to look at your video and be like, look at that dumbass.
Speaker 1 And you should assume someone else is going to go, oh, God, the quality of that video is terrible. And someone else is going to go, oh, the accent, the way they pronounce that word, so stupid.
Speaker 1 You should assume people are going to say that because people are idiots and they have their own taste and it's America and we get to think whatever the hell we want here. And that's amazing.
Speaker 1 There's also going to be people that go, wow,
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that chick, she's pretty freaking smart. Man, she's crushing it.
Jesus, love this. I want to do business with her.
She's awesome. She's going to take care of me.
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Or, man, this guy, love the way he explains that. That dude, he gets it.
He gets the way I think. I want to do business with him.
Speaker 1 If you get one person who says they want to do business with you, if I told you you were going to produce a video and only four people were going to watch it, only four, but one of them was going to be a tremendous client and the other three were going to think you were a complete moron.
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Would you make that deal? Would you create that piece of content? Would you do that? I hope you would. Because guys, that's the game.
That's the game. That is the game.
That's the whole game.
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Just create content all day. every day.
Not actually all day, every day. There's tactics so that you have your life.
And, you know, that would be nuts if you did it all day, every day.
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And maybe you can, which would be even more amazing. And I would love to see that.
And God bless you for doing it. But my point is,
Speaker 1 there are tips and tactics like batching,
Speaker 1 like making your videos templatized. So, so, okay,
Speaker 1 let's wrap up with that. Let's wrap up with some super tactical stuff
Speaker 1 here. And hopefully, you made it through these 30 minutes.
Speaker 1 You know, because,
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you know, this is the way that I think. And part of this is me talking myself into different things that I know I need to do.
But here's just a few things.
Speaker 1 If you want your videos to look good,
Speaker 1 look good. Very simple.
Speaker 1 Pick up your
Speaker 1 iPhone or, God, if you're using an Android, you have other life choices that
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you have to question. But okay, pick up your smartphone.
Stand in front of a window. And maybe take two steps back from the window.
Speaker 1 Hold that iPhone up so you're facing the window with the iPhone pointed back or smartphone pointed back at with the camera, you know, pointed at you.
Speaker 1 Hold it up with a slight down angle that kind of slims you, narrows you, makes you look a little longer, allows you to position yourself in the camera a little better.
Speaker 1 It's just a more attractive look.
Speaker 1 And then speak clearly.
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Use Spielberg. Spielberg.
If you have the new iPhone with the cinematic mode, it's probably better than a A7 Mark III Sony camera. I mean, it's freaking ridiculous.
Speaker 1 The first cinematic setting video that I did with my new iPhone 13 or whatever the hell this is, I had people like, oh, who got the new camera? What new camera did you get?
Speaker 1 I'm like, it's my iPhone, bro.
Speaker 1
And so now, stay in front of a window, so lights facing you. So you're lit.
You're the subject. You want to be lit.
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If you can have the window open, light coming in and turn all the rest of the lights off now, that'll give you a kind of a framed look. Cool.
Slight down angle.
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That will remove any garbage in your backdrop for the most part because it'll really just be capturing you with maybe a little bit of background. And then just talk clearly into it.
That's it.
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Two, three minutes of value. Now you look, you sound amazing.
You're lit, you're focused.
Speaker 1 You're the subject because you've got the little dark around you, and all you needed was a phone that you already have. Now all
Speaker 1 the non-content-related stuff out the window. Okay, great.
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Next, templatize the way you create videos. Mine is very simple.
Super, super clean, short intro.
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Today we're going to answer the question, what is home insurance? Let's get it. Then I put a, I put it, so that's it.
That's the whole intro. I start right there.
No garbage up front.
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No, hi, I'm Ryan Hanley, the president. No one gives a crap who you are at the front.
You got to hook them in. Hi, today we're going to answer the question, why do you need home insurance? Bam, done.
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I do a little tiny seven second logo thing that I got off Fiverr for 10 bucks. Paid somebody 10 bucks to take my logo and make it, maybe it's a little more.
Maybe that's 25 bucks.
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Make my logo move with a little bit of music. That's it.
Pop that in. And then I go, then I get into the content.
Hi, my name is Ryan Hanley.
Speaker 1 I'm the president of Rogue Risk, where we do insurance differently, specifically, specifically by making you.
Speaker 1 Specifically, oh shit, now I messed it up.
Speaker 1 Well, now that I'm trying to do it, I'm, hi, my name is Ryan Hanley, founder and president of Rogue Risk, where we do insurance differently, specifically by giving you knowledge and information to make the right insurance decision.
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There it is. If you like this video, tap that like button.
If you're watching on YouTube, that helps other amazing business owners and decision leaders just like you find this video. Bam!
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Then I get into my content. That's it.
Think about how short that was, how punchy, bang, bang, after I messed it up that first time.
Speaker 1 And then I'm right into the content. You need home insurance because.
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And here's the deal: don't make it wonky or nerdy. Just talk like a regular human being and be concise as as you can.
Try to give it a little spice.
Speaker 1 If I can throw in something, you know, something a little outside the ordinary, maybe a bills reference or a local reference or a weather reference or something, just to spice it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 And then at the end, I have the same exact outro every time. If this is the kind of relationship that you would like from your insurance professional, we would love to do business with you.
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We work in all 50 states. No matter where you are, we can come to you.
The best way to get a hold of us is to give us a call, 518-960-6600. You You can email us at gorogue at rogueris.com.
Speaker 1 You can visit us online at roguegris.com, or I'm sure there's a button or a link somewhere around this video to let you contact us, whichever way you choose.
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We look forward to doing business with you. That's it.
That's the whole, that's every single video is that. It's one sentence opener, quick logo,
Speaker 1 very quick, 15-second intro, content,
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10-second outro with a call to action. I throw that same logo bumper on the end.
That's it. Templatize.
Every video is exactly the same format. You know why?
Speaker 1 It makes it ridiculously easy to create content and it makes it even more easy to cut it up and produce the content. Here's who doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 1
The people watching the video, they don't care if it's not artistic. They don't care if it's not infotainment.
They don't care if it's not, you know, moving and drone shots.
Speaker 1 Look, I did all the drone shot stuff back at Agency Nation because it was fun and I was creating content for you guys. It was meant to be entertaining.
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But our content in the insurance industry is meant to educate and to get people to contact us. It's meant to build trust and respect.
That's it. That's all we're trying to do.
All right.
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Then put it on YouTube. Give it a very clean, simple title that explains exactly what they're about to watch.
Don't be gimmicky. Don't be ironic.
Don't be, don't try to be funny.
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Tell them exactly what they're going to get. In the description, do the same thing.
Put a link above the folds so that people can see the link.
Speaker 1 So have that link go directly to a page in which they can fill out a form and bam, you are a youtube content creating absolute stud gangster in the insurance industry then do that over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and the best way to do that is to batch your video recordings what i mean by that is pick a day i like mondays because i have a lot of energy sometimes i do it on fridays and i'll just turn on the the i'll just bang out five six seven ten videos right in a row i mean they're two three minutes long it shouldn't be that hard and i just bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam get them all done then during the week i chop them all up schedule them out on YouTube, and then I do it again the next week.
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The rest of the week, I'm not fuddling and farting around with them. They're already scheduled and ready to go out.
And then all I got to do is share them. That's the whole deal.
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 That's the whole, I just do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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That's the whole deal. And I'm not scared about one of the videos being terrible.
I'm not scared of something wacky happened during the video.
Speaker 1 I'm not scared of losing my train of thought and just continuing and plowing through it because I don't care. I don't have any fear.
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There's no, I'm not letting any false evidence appear real in my brain. There's no fear.
And there's no fear because I don't believe I know the answer, right?
Speaker 1 If I thought, oh, this video has to be amazing, this is the video, this is the, this is the video that's going to take Rogue Risk into national celebrity status.
Speaker 1 And we're going to be on talk shows because of how amazing our content is.
Speaker 1 And I got 20, 20 views, I'd be pretty upset so I just don't put that kind of expectation on it I just say to myself I'm making tiny little this is like dollar cost averaging right you're just making these little deposits these little deposits these little deposits these little deposits over and over and over and over and over again and what happens is compound interest, the compounding effect of continually creating content and adding value and adding views, you start to get rewarded.
Speaker 1
It starts to build up. And that, my friends, is how you build an inbound machine.
And you can do that on Instagram. You can do it on your website.
You can do it on LinkedIn. I really like YouTube.
Speaker 1
I really like website SEO, Google search, stuff like that. And I really like LinkedIn.
Those are the places where we have the most traction. And that's where we spend the most time.
Speaker 1 But we're also 95% plus business commercial insurance.
Speaker 1 Guys, I hope this episode was valuable to you.
Speaker 1 I feel like I was talking very fast. I did just get back from the gym and I popped a high noon pineapple
Speaker 1 before I started the episode. But yeah, I feel like pretty jacked up.
Speaker 1
I just believe in this stuff, guys. I believe in it.
And I hope, and we've had so much success with it. And I want you guys to have success too.
I know two episodes a row about content or whatever.
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Maybe it's boring. Maybe it helps.
But
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guys, don't let... the fear of what you look like or whatever like just just just say fuck it and get to work.
Just
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get to work, right? Just do it. And I promise, even if you don't like it, you do this enough time, it'll start to be fun.
You'll start to have some fun with it. It'll start to show up.
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Your shoulders won't be so tight. You won't feel as tense.
Your facial, your muscles, but you just got to do it. You don't get better by thinking about it.
You get better by doing it.
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And I promise you. And if you want to practice, right, before you start putting stuff up on YouTube, use like Instagram stories.
Because they're gone in a day, right?
Speaker 1
24 hours later, the story is gone. So just test, test, test, test, get used to it.
Test, test, test. And then when you feel comfortable, start doing some YouTube videos.
Speaker 1 Guys,
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this stuff works, I promise you. And I just want to see you be successful.
So I hope that you found value in this episode.
Speaker 1 As always, if you have questions, comments, hit me up on the DMs, whatever socials you like.
Speaker 1 I love you guys for listening to this show.
Speaker 1 I appreciate you. And I hope you absolutely dominate.
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