Alien Truths, Government Secrets: Dan Farah Talks The Age of Disclosure

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All right, we have the director and producer of Age of Disclosure, which is blowing up about UFOs and UFO technology. And it's got a, it's a really, really intriguing documentary.

So he's going to come on in a minute and we're going to break that down. Are we alone in the universe? Can we answer that question? Yeah.

Are there aliens amongst us? I have a lot of questions for this guy. Technology and spaceships and all of it.
So anyway, that it's, yeah.

That's the number one rental and number one movie on Amazon Prime right now. Beating all the big ones.
We talk about that too.

Before we get to him, Dana, very quickly, just to bore the show.

Oh, there was a big

in Showbiz News. There was a Netflix merger.
With who?

Warner Brothers. Right.
That it owns Harry Potter.

And I'm supposed to work for Netflix again next year. So I'm really vested in this.
It really means a lot to me.

Does it?

Well, it's also Larry Ellison of Paramount Pictures is not giving up and making a hostile bid, going over the going to the shareholders, making a case at $78 billion.

Our friend Ted Sarandos came in at $72 billion. I called him and I said, look, Ted, you got to up the ante.
It's only $72 billion.

change go to 80 billion and get it done yeah let's get with some real in here actually this is the funniest part because i don't text ted that much

and this is so dumb so i thought it was funny that night when i heard about it i got home and i go hey ted

uh let me know if you need me to walk you through this merger

i thought that was funny and he said okay i think i got it but i might call you later and uh he didn't but i will say i like the term hostile takeover. I like angry takeover.

It's such a weird term, hostile. I know.
Yeah. Just like, we don't care that you don't want us to buy you.
We're just coming in. Guns ablaze.
It's aggressive.

The only other interesting story coming up was: I heard a funny story about the World Cup. Not that funny, but you know how they had all these cars there.

Oh, yeah.

Big deal. They say every game is a Super Bowl.
That's how big the World Cup is. Yes.
So they're peppering it all over North America, like different places.

You have a game here, and then they just pick two teams. You go here.
So one of the odd situations was Egypt and Iran got picked to go to Seattle.

And that's the only World Cup that's the pride match. Oh, my goodness.
So what are they going to do? Egypt and Iran. I don't know.

Have that game go.

Well, it's coming up. It's coming up.
It's coming up. Okay.

Must-see TV. Yeah, that's a good must-see one i think out of all of them that would lead to a little prickly situation

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all right let's get to dan i mean

dan farah

yep is uh the director and in and let's let's get him in here let's let's quickly i want to show the trailer and uh let's show you guys that'll just orient you to what it's a quick trailer you'll see what's going on then we go right into q a all right here we go

we've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities and it's not ours these are otherworldly things that are performing maneuvers that have haven't been seen

I have seen with my own eyes non-human craft and non-human beings.

This is so secret there have been very few people in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to it.

Even presidents have been operating on a need-to-know basis, but that begins to ramp out of control.

It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees.

People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information. Some people claim it would cost them their lives if they spoke out about these things.

You had information being locked away that could change the trajectory for species, terrifying researchers.

This is the biggest discovery in human history. I did all the violin work.

Well done.

Dan, this is Dan Fair, the director.

Dan, we'll get right at it. Dana and I watched this and

mind-blowing.

One of the quick interesting things is presidents are temporary employees.

They don't even get as much information as people under them. Is that true?

Yeah, so one of the big reveals in the film is that this has not only been covered up from the public and from congressional oversight, but it's been kept from sitting presidents and that they're treated as being on a need-to-know basis.

Marco Rubio actually breaks that down in the film, which is pretty extraordinary. Huh.
It's so rude that the president's on a need-to-know basis. That would be offensive if I was the president.

So is it... Yeah, it's in the documentary.
There's the CIA and then this program called the Legacy Program, or we have a sense of an idea of who these people are that carry this information?

Yeah, so in the film, a number of the intelligence officials I interviewed revealed that there is this deeply hidden UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that's referred to as the legacy program.

And they break down the elements of government that are involved in it. So it involves elements of the CIA, the Air Force, the Department of Energy, and private U.S.
defense contractors. And

Rubio breaks down how it's the permanent bureaucracy within those elements of government that gatekeep this information and keep it from elected officials and even sitting presidents.

And the view is that sort of,

simply put, those elected officials come and go, whereas the permanent bureaucracy can stay there for 10, 20, 30 years. Sure.

Even that they say it's taxpayer money paying for like a fake program that billions go some, because, you know, there's so many billions you just hear about flying around.

who's keeping track of it all and if this is keeping this alive where they're doing reverse engineering and working on these spacecraft, it's it's so mind-boggling to people because every person in this was there, 24 interviewed, all have real jobs.

They're not, it's not some crazy lumberjack in Oregon. It's like we are guys saying we not only we know they're there, it's just a fact.
Everyone's just like, obviously, we start with they're here. So

what are we doing with them? How are we trying to get the technology? How are we trying to keep it from other countries?

Some people say we should all know what's going on, but others say, well, if it gets in the wrong hands, it could really

kill us off.

Yeah, so I mean, the two biggest reveals that came out of all my interviews are, one,

the interview subjects reveal very clearly that there's been an 80-year cover-up of the existence of non-human intelligent life. And two, that elements of the U.S.

government, notably those elements we just talked about that are involved in... the quote-unquote legacy program,

they are deeply involved in a high-stake secret Cold War race with adversarial nations, most notably China and Russia. And

fear of information,

the wrong information getting out is one of the things that has kept all this locked down. But we're now at a place where

the stakes are so high for this technology race that everyone I interviewed felt it was imperative that the general public in the U.S.

learn the base facts of this and know it's real so that more resources can be put towards winning this race. And

the scientific community and academia can come to understand that it's a valid area of inquiry, that it's a real situation that their brain power should be put towards, you know, because right now, you know, we're in a technology race and 99% of the scientists in the United States don't even know the situation is real.

And that's

not real battle.

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What, like when, as the director and you have your prep, your research, and your idea to do this, what as you're interviewing and it's coming together, what was the stuff that you kind of went, holy shit.

You know, know, it's like,

well, I mean, one of those holy shit moments for me right off the bat was

realizing

we, you know, we live in a time where Democrats and Republicans in this country don't seem to agree on anything, right? Everyone, everyone,

I

agree with that statement. Very safe to say.
Yeah, like

generally, that's the overall outlook. However, the leaders of both parties in our country are completely aligned on this.

And to the extent that it was really shocking to experience firsthand, you know.

I interviewed Marco Rubio on the same day in the same room that I interviewed Kristen Gillibrand from New York,

two people who were ideologically, politically opposed to each other. And they could not have been more in lockstep on how significant this is, how the base facts need to come out,

their understanding of the lay of the land.

They were completely in sync. And they went out of their way to tell me how bipartisan and serious this issue is.

Yeah, that's what made it very credible and very interesting because you are hearing from these people. You wouldn't really, it's why would they bother?

Yeah, in recent times, in the last 10 years, we've seen pilots seeing objects moving in ways that don't make any sense, you know? And so this kind of completes the idea of it or what people think. But

is it more like who where are the aliens? Or for you, is it like this technology may be in the wrong hands or if it gets in the wrong hands?

And describe, how would you describe the technology besides the speed and how they move around? I mean, I've got a mind-blowing answer, Dan. Yeah, go.

Is this true? It said one of these spacecraft has 100 times the daily power generated in the USA.

So what that's referring to is

there's a part of the film. Well, there's a part of the film where Commander Dave Fraver,

famous Navy fighter pilot, very seen, very senior guy,

he was talking about a UAP he encountered while he was on active duty.

Well, before he retired, he was in the air. He was on a mission.
He was in his fighter jet, and he encountered a UAP that is known as the Tic-Tac-Shape UAP.

The New York Times, yeah, the New York Times ran a big story about this in 2017.

And he was describing the flight performance characteristics of this UAP, what he saw it do with his own eyes, and what his data collection systems on his airplane were confirming this thing was doing.

And one of those

performance characteristics it displayed is it could hover just above the ocean, basically sea level, and then instantly shoot up to 80,000 feet, which is where you go into space.

And then it could hover there and then come right back down. And it did this all day for hours.
And

the energy required to do that once

to go instantly from sea level to 80,000 feet

at the speed that it did

is that huge number you just said.

One of the scientists in the film said it's it was like the electrical,

it's like the energy output of the entire United States for a week or something like that. It was

the exact quote, but it was some. And how fast they can go through water.
Yeah. At the same speed through water, which sounds impossible.
Yeah. So this technology

allows UAP to do what's referred to as transmedium travel, where they can go effortlessly from space to the air to the ocean, which we don't have any, we don't have any vehicles that can do that.

We can't even get our heads around it. They travel in a bubble.
That was very interesting, Dan.

Yeah. So now they realize here's like a triangle object.
It has a bubble around. So that's the radar goes around it.
That's where they can. Yeah,

one of the huge breakthroughs that is revealed in the film, several of the senior scientists that I interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the government, they reveal the breakthrough technology that they have realized

is

the key component to how UAP work. And essentially, to put it in the most simple terms,

which admittedly aren't... There's no real simple way to say it, but the simplest way to say it is

they are warping space-time in a localized area. They are creating an immense amount of energy in a specific area around the craft, and essentially they're creating a bubble around the craft.

And that bubble separates the craft from the environment around it. So the laws of physics that we live by and that our aircraft, you know,

you know, operate within, they're irrelevant at that point to the craft and the bubble.

The craft is completely separated from our environment and it's in its own space-time, right? And so

that technology that technological breakthrough explains everything we've been observing so in the bubble the craft could be you know going at a leisurely pace

and and from the outside it looks like it's doing these impossible speeds um

we see it going from space to air to water and we're like how does that work but for for the for the craft in the bubble the environment has no impact on it. It's just moving seamlessly through it.

And we wonder why we can't get these things great on radar.

well the bubble explains that the radar emits radar towards an object and it's supposed to bounce back to the radar emitter and that's how that's how radar works but in in the case of these crafts the radar just bounces around the bubble and keeps going it never goes back to the radar emitter and so that answers the question of why it's so hard and then it even answers age-old questions like why is it so hard to get a photo of of UAP you know we all have cameras we all have 4k cameras see with our iPhones how come we can't get photos every video is bad yeah and it's like because you're, it makes sense, though, because you're taking a photo or a video through a space-time barrier.

It's the equivalent of,

you know, try taking pictures of fish that are in the ocean from above the ocean. It doesn't work out.
You're going through a different medium. It's going to be all distorted.

Even if it was like a koi pond and they're like right there, you could see them with your eyes. If you go to take a picture, it's all distorted because you're taking it through a different medium.

And so it's the same, it's the same concept.

The work, the bubble around the craft craft

is essentially a barrier. And

now as our

camera systems

and our other data collection systems on our fighter craft become more advanced, they're starting to capture video of these things. We can actually see the bubble around the craft.
Crazy.

Some of the UAP videos that have been declassified and made public, you can actually see it now that you know what to look for. You can see the distortion around the craft.

Is that when they show orbs? Like when the orbs are like getting shelled in the east coast and for a long time, you go, they actually look circular.

And sometimes you see them floating around and you never know if it's real or not, but you see them in someone's backyard even or just in their neighborhood.

They're perfectly circular and you don't know what's going on. Yeah, the orbs, the orb phenomenon is certainly associated.
It's all one in the same.

And orbs have been seen all over the world since World War II. And during World War II, fighter pilots saw them so much, they made up a nickname for them.
They called them Foo Fighters.

It was a very common thing that Allied fighter pilots experienced and encountered.

Orbs are seen all over the world on a regular basis. And

there's still a lot of questions around them, but orbs might simply just be another form of

warping space-time in a localized area. It might just

be a means of trapping.

Could you reverse engineer this and talk to an astrophysicist or put it in ask AI, like a craft that can do this 80,000 feet and go underwater and you know, space-time and all that.

What are the odds it's originating from Earth? Or in our minds, is it everywhere? Is it gets into religiosity almost? Like, where

the universe is so vast, from what I understand, it's really hard. It's really big.
So, but maybe they can go through a wormhole. I mean, what do you have any personal beliefs on this?

Where did they originate from? Or is it from the middle of the earth? It's so because they're in this

moon.

So

the people I interviewed, a number of them go on the record confirming that this technology is not made by humans. There have been

crashes that have been recovered. There have been the people I interviewed go on the record saying that in some cases the

the crashes included the the recoveries of of the crashed uh uh UAP included the bodies of non-humans, right?

So they're putting it on the table that we know there have been non-humans in these crafts, right? Now, in terms of where they're from,

look, there's no one I spoke to had a definitive answer, but all things were on the table.

A number of the people in the film shared essentially the possibilities, which is extraterrestrial, interdimensional is something that's discussed amongst these people, as wild and far out as that sounds.

And then another scenario that's talked about is maybe they've been here all along and they just, they were here before us.

I feel like that's true. Yeah.

We keep finding these hieroglyphics and ancient things and you just go, this some stuff is starting to not make as much sense as it used to.

And you have to re-question everything because you're just told one thing and you just go, yeah, you got your blinders on.

And if you start to dig, you go, wait a second, is this possible that we're just a blip? of all time and there's just been a lot happening before and after. Yeah.

I mean, this goes back to Roswell where that was the first time they covered it up and then they started going

that's what happens you tell one lie and so there were like I think two or three that crashed in Roswell or there are pieces there's two bodies maybe

there was there was what the guys in my film you know the guy yeah the guys in my film go on the record saying

it was actually

one craft that crashed into two pieces two crash sites and there were four and there were four non-human bodies in there and the and the people in my film go on the record saying that the the craft, the recovered elements of the craft and the bodies were taken to Wright Pat Air Force Base in Ohio,

where at the time

the Army Air Corps, which became the Air Force,

had their best reverse engineers, which is why everything went there.

And do we have anything now that we've taken from craft involving like even iPhones or

how as technology, I had heard other things where there's a trade-off there, like we will,

you can learn from this.

All right. Did you go into anything? You didn't go into anything about alien abductions on this, but

no, I say,

I did, I did learn that there's reality to that, that topic, but I didn't include it in the film for a couple of reasons. A, I needed to make tough choices on what to.

cut and what not to cut to get it to a runtime that wouldn't wouldn't put people to sleep, you know?

You had to keep it around, like, I'm at one, the runtime's at one hour and 50 minutes right now.

And even when I went like a few minutes past that,

you start to feel it, right? Like the version that was 154 felt a few minutes too long, you know?

Yeah. It's like movies when you do a movie.
Yeah, you test an ego. People give up after a while.
But

it's dense in a good way. There's a lot of information coming at you on this thing.
And it gets better as it goes along. You sort of get your bearings.
You figure out who everyone is.

And they start telling you stuff. You go, I think I've heard that.
And then it gets ramps up and you start getting scared.

I know the way it was scared.

Did the non-human did it? I'm assuming there's no pictures of them, but did anyone ever go on record or describe what a non-human

looked like?

Are they grays? Are they like three-foot grays? Are they reptilians? So we don't get into like the

we don't get into what non-human beings have looked like in the film, but I will say that the conversations I've had with people who have had encounters,

the reference point they tend they have used in the conversations with me is the non-humans in close encounters being very accurate

to

what they saw, which, you know, is pretty, it's a pretty fascinating thing because,

you know,

it's an amazing movie. It inspired my curiosity in the topic for sure.
And,

you know, Steven had

some consultants working on him with that who were aware of a lot of facts back then. So, right, like off-the-record facts.
Like, they, those kind of movies, it's funny.

They seem to know more when in the future, you go, Oh, they must have known something back then. Because, like, you probably know a lot more than

people are going on camera and saying. Then they tell you, I don't want to say this on camera, but there's actually way more happening.
And you probably know a lot of that stuff. Yeah.

So go ahead and say it. And there's

fine.

Speak you and Dana here.

So,

but I'll tell you, the other movie makes me think a lot about this, everything I've learned is the Abyss. You know, watch the Abyss again now with all this

information about the activity that happens under our oceans.

I do wish I had more time in the film to go into what's been happening in our oceans. A number of the Navy officials I spoke to

went on the record with me telling me about

super

concerning activity under the oceans, like giant crafts the size of football fields flying by our submarines at thousands of miles an hour, being caught on sonar and data and on radar.

That sounds terrible. It's like something out of

the

mouth.

It sounds like stuff out of science fiction for sure. 100%.

But what's so wild about this whole situation is,

you know,

we're quickly getting to a place where the things that seemed like science fiction just five, 10 years ago are reality now. It's real.

Even the stuff that's publicly known, think about it. Like even stuff that's publicly known

that is being talked about that has nothing to do with UAP. Just scientific breakthroughs that are being talked about in the last few years.
10 years ago, that would have sounded like science fiction.

You know, we're rapidly progressing technologically at an unimaginable rate.

Yes, I think. Um, are you invested heavily in AI stocks or how's your portfolio doing? Yeah,

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So, has doing this kind of changed you in a way? I mean, has it this journey? Um,

because it's such an interesting topic and there's real stuff around it. And I'm fascinated by it.
And there's been, you know, alien civilizations and maybe more

call them casual documentaries about this over the years.

This is the first one that seemed very comprehensively serious about it without pushing narratives that hard, just going, here's the information. I just wonder, has it changed you doing this?

I mean, because if you really think aliens are here and they're advanced and they're kind of scary, or maybe they'll be benign, it's just a different way to walk around on the planet.

Is the word they're here here walking around?

No one I interviewed said that to me. No.
Oh, wow. No.

I know more than you then.

Well, wait a minute. Spade.
From my sources at the Grove.

What does Spade do? I'm on the chat rooms. Go ahead.

Now, I feel like they're kind of might be around, but I don't know. I mean,

anything from last year on, Ring doorbells, anything where people are capturing anything on video is written off now.

Once AI comes, it's almost like planned because now you can't believe that stuff as much as you would. And that's scary too, because one in five is probably real.

And no one, the first comment is always AI. You bring up a great point, though.
And I've said this in a couple of interviews recently, which is we live at a time where you could put a 4K video.

of a giant UFO taken from a security camera on a

serious military base.

You could put that on the nightly news on like Fox and CNN at the same time, make a big deal out of it, and half of the human population will say it's AI and that it's made from some visual effects studio in Hollywood.

And so that's a challenging time to live in where even actual real video evidence will be viewed as BS. And that's why I think this film is so significant.

and why I'm so glad it came together because this is 34 people with incredible resumes putting their name and their reputation on the line to share what they lawfully can with the public about this extraordinary stuff and the situation the reality of this situation and i think that is the best evidence at this point in human history that we can have because

video is the idea of uh you know incredible video is a compromised thought right it doesn't really exist.

But people who hold security clearances and want to keep them so they can provide for their families and you know people who have ambition to run for president one day and people who want to stay in office, like they have a lot to lose going on camera on the record saying this stuff.

And they're doing it because they think it's important.

That to me is the most compelling. And they can get, they were saying in there, you don't want to get the guy dies of four gunshots into the back of the head, suicide.

Yeah, these people, a lot of these people,

tremendous risk stepping in.

Because this is such high dollar, high stakes. If they have the technology from these craft that could, they said it would cancel out.
They can, your cars could, you don't need oil.

You don't need coal. You don't even need batteries.

Like these things can just, if we have that and someone feels like they do, I don't know if it's big corporations, big companies hidden in China here, but someone's working on that.

And in the movie, they're saying we got to share it with the world because we could. Cure a lot of things.
We could fix a lot of problems. So why aren't we doing that?

And also, you know look the movie i think does a really good job at filling people in on why it's so complicated of a situation and why there's different sides of the coin so this technology i get it that exists has pros and cons it can it can be used to revolutionize the way we live it could potentially solve the energy crisis it could lead to interstellar travel and expanding our horizons it could dramatically revolutionize our lives and change the trajectory of our species, but it could also be used to make weapons of mass destruction that are far more destructive and dangerous than nuclear weapons.

And so

that has sort of like that dilemma, I think, has sort of paralyzed the gatekeepers of this information because no one wants to pick a lane.

I think the film shows that there is a valid argument for just making it a humanitarian issue.

and having it be the one thing that can unite all nations to tackle this and figure out a way forward that's in the best interest of mankind and doesn't cause problems. I think people get scared.

They go, the government, because the government is on there saying we should know so we could tell the people.

And then there's half the people who go, we don't trust that the government is going to do that and make sure we know everything. And obviously they're not right now.

There seems like some good people on here that are trying.

And there seems like there's some that are probably behind the scenes saying, we can't let this out and we're never going to and we don't want it to happen.

Yeah. So I kind of get both sides.
I think it's slowly coming out. And the slower, it's not bad that it's this slow because people have to get their head around it.

And it's so complicated and a little scary. And to answer your earlier question, that's the other, that's the second reason I didn't include topics that fall within this issue

that are a bridge too far for people, like getting into abductions and stuff like that. I think it was really important that the film

set the base facts,

the lay of the land, like a sequel one day and say okay you handled that now can you handle this level because we're probably it's tip of the iceberg like of what we know just this is so rudimentary in the real huge huge picture i thought one thing that was interesting was uh

there was only one thing no i thought one of the things that was interesting was nuclear power plants nuclear missiles And all these generals, these people that have legit jobs, their credibility is online.

They see it come.

There's a light there's an orb it comes over boom boom it starts knocking them out turning them all off and then they take off or the one flying next to the rocket and they have a video of it and it yeah zaps the rocket and takes off and turns it off the activity over the uap activity over nuclear weapon sites is

an ongoing issue, the people in my film say. And it's been going on since

the 40s,

since the atomic race, since we are messing with cracking the the atom and atomic energy. And as we've progressed technologically and harnessing energy,

the UAP activity over sites related to nuclear energy has increased.

One of those particular stories you just mentioned in the film stands out to me as one of the more mind-blowing

reveals out of the interviews I did.

There was a UAP event at Vanderburg Air Force Base, which is, you know, we're all in LA right now. That's just about two hours up the coast.
It's right around Santa Barbara. So

I'm close to it. Oh, you're close to it.
Yeah. So, you know, not far.
And

I interviewed a couple of the Air Force security guards who, you know, were trusted to

guard this classified military base where there's weapons of mass destruction.

And they witnessed with their own eyes one day a bright light coming off the coast, coming from the Pacific Ocean towards the base, which is right on the coast.

And at first, they thought it was an airplane coming their way because they saw bright light.

But as it got closer, the light faded and it was this giant black craft that was the size of a football field and rectangular. And it had no lights, no windows, no visible means of propulsion.

And it just hovered over them. And they all just looked up with, you know, in awe at what they're looking at.
And then it just shot off at thousands of miles an hour up the coast.

And what's wild is when you hear multiple people describing the same thing in separate interviews in detail, and then you get all the full context.

You know, they've never spoken up publicly about this. They kept it to themselves.
They didn't try to like, this wasn't a story. They were out there peddling to try to get rich or famous.

It was a process for me to like make them comfortable going on camera in this film.

It wasn't an easy, you know, decision for them.

They shared with me the police blotter, the actual Air Force police reports that had come in with all the details. It all lines up.
And

you know, that's just so extraordinary. You know, put yourself in the shoes of,

you know.

Well, that's a life-changing event. If you see a giant spacecraft in the sky, and then

yeah, there was one over Phoenix like that years ago, and our governor came out. It was like in the 90s.
Yeah. Probably, probably a mile.
It had, it had,

it's just like lights like this. And so everyone thought it was this.
It was a bunch of little ships, but then it was slowly moving. They go, oh, there's a light over there.

Oh, it's all the whole mass is one piece,

like a mile.

And for 45 minutes, it went slowly went over. And they said it was a joke.
And then later, Barry or

Fighter 17, I think whoever the governor is came in and said, yeah, I was on Camelback Mountain. I saw it was real.

Yeah. He couldn't see it then.
Yeah, it was a fight. Yeah, okay.
Yeah, you know who the first pilot was, the first person to call that in was coincidentally?

It was

Kurt Russell.

Oh, that's right. I've heard this story.
Yeah. Kurt Russell, the actor.
Yeah.

He was in his airplane and he called it in. Wow.
Oliver.

Yeah. Wow.
There was one up here about a week ago.

My son took a picture of it, just lined up little lights for so many miles. Didn't really make any sense.
Yeah. Wow.
I could send you the photo. But I did.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I, you know, I've seen all these science fiction films and I love Close Encounters in 2001.

And it's if this, these people, these entities, these aliens are studying us, they're either going over Vanderburgh, seeing where we're at, oh, we can still handle them, no big deal, or they're trying to handle these pussies, or they're trying to protect us.

You know, maybe this is the time we get rid of their toys. Or do you have any theory about that in your brain? Of like, what are they up to? We can't know, but you know.
Well, the, the,

the leading theory on intention amongst the people I interviewed,

we unpacked this some in the film. You remember the

leading theory is that they're paying attention to our nuclear progress and our defense capabilities and monitoring that closely because we are either already there technologically in our hidden programs and doing what they're doing,

or we're on the verge of doing what they're doing and they're concerned about us.

That's the leading theory because the majority of the tension is to our attention, is to our nuclear progress and our defense capabilities.

And so, if you put yourself in the context of a more advanced, technologically advanced species, you know, there's the most logical scenario is they're monitoring our progress to the point where we would, they would have to contend with us, and then they're monitoring our defense capabilities to see what sort of problems they might encounter with us.

And that's the most logical, you know, as one of the intelligence officials, Chris Murmell, in the film says, you know, number one priority of life, you know, writ large throughout the universe is survival.

Yeah.

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Do you agree with Stephen Greer? You know, Dr. Stephen Greer, you might have heard of him along the way, but we had a mono a couple two years ago.

He said that there's some black ops, some hidden places that are building this and reverse engineering and a lot of the ones we see are made by us. Have you heard any of that? Yes.
I mean, look,

one of the intelligent officials in my film goes on the record saying that some of the UAP we see are non-human are non-human intelligent technology,

excuse me, the technology of non-human intelligent life.

And then some is the product of our

retrieval and crash, our retrieval and reverse engineering program. And some is adversarial technology from their reverse engineering program.

So there's three sets of circumstances that are all playing out at the same time. Nuts.
So a spaceship crashes,

they get a hold of it, and they try to reverse engineer it. It's got to be an expensive piece of machinery that people want.
My God.

I mean, in China, they get it. I mean, oh, wow.
So, some of the intelligence officials break down in the film how there are recovery teams in

position in various parts of the world that can quickly get to a crash site, recover it, classify all the materials recovered, classify the fact that the mission even happened.

And they're extremely well organized. And, you know, as one of the intelligence officials says in the film, very, very specifically, he very specifically says,

nothing would stop any country

from going after

one of these recoveries, whether it's

in their country or not

yeah they all

of course yeah so it's uh

it's pretty wild and that gets you thinking you know every time you see uh you know from time to time you see these stories like

you know multiple military countries militaries end up in the same area of the ocean doing some unexplainable you know activity and makes you wonder what's really going on You know, what gave me the chills is one quick Dana where he says the guy's on, he's testifying, one of the, I think, whistleblowers and he says when you see all this stuff and you know what's going on and you think they would be a threat to us could we defend ourselves and he goes absolutely not everyone goes holy

and he goes without question they would wipe the floor there's nothing we can do to them there's nothing yeah so that's that's good in a way where you go they could do what if they're here they could do whatever they want and they're just kind of monitoring and snooping around and and hopefully uh

i don't know but do you believe it there's any

places on the moon?

There's any buildings? There's any bases?

I didn't get into that, to be honest with you,

with anyone.

Yeah, I mean, it is an hour 50.

Are you going to make another one? Yeah, you might have to, just for me. We're all hoping that stuff,

more whistleblowers come out and stuff kind of comes out. Of course, the public will want to know.
And I think this documentary has kind of stoked it up.

I guess you built over time and all of a sudden it was really in the ether age of disclosure, beating out, you know, these, you know, getting huge numbers. So that must have been really satisfying.

Yeah. Amazon.
Yeah. That's a big deal.
Yeah. That means people care.
They're interested. Absolutely.
Yeah. I'm really proud.
We're within a couple days of release. We released on November 21st.

And within the first 48 hours,

we broke the record

for best-selling documentary ever on Prime Video. And in those first 10 days of release, we were the number one and number two.
The rental option and the purchase option

were each the number one and number two best-selling movies

on all Prime Video out of all movies. And we were outperforming, you know, big studio movies, which was definitely one battle after another.
Very satisfying.

Yeah, one battle after another, Jurassic Park, Rebirth, The Conjuring. We outperformed all these films in the first 10 days in that critical week of the Thanksgiving week while everyone's home.

So it's, yeah, I'm really grateful for that

response and humble to see it break through like that.

You know, you guys, you guys long worked in mainstream Hollywood like I have. And

I'll tell you, every single major distributor and every major streamer passed on this film. I premiered it South by Southwest.

Yeah.

I premiered it at South by Southwest Film Festival in March. We opened the opening weekend in the Paramount Theater, the biggest theater they have.
1,100 seats.

I played that.

Totally packed, lying around the box, standing ovation, whole nine yards. It all went great.
It was an amazing, amazing opening.

The trailer launched with like 20 million organic views, which is beyond unprecedented for a dock.

And, you know, excitedly went and shared it with all the all the major distributors and streamers. And they all had great things to say.

But then they, but

they all had great things to say, but then they passed. And I, and now they're mad because look at the the money it's bringing.
Look at that. Yeah, now they're now they missed out.

But I think we're living in a time where the major studios and the streamers are just staying away from anything that's controversial, you know,

anything that

could in any way impact them politically. And

I think that's unfortunate.

But I also think we're living in a time, thank God, where there's all this great, you know, these great platforms like podcasts and civilian journalism that is still still bringing attention to this stuff that

legacy media is ignoring.

And the people obviously are interested. It's an apolitical film.

Yeah, that's the irony. Because it is, you know, I don't know if it's ironic or bizarre or whatever.

First time both parties have chimed in on like the same film or the same documentary. So that I, I mean, in recent memory of, so, but thanks, man.
That's very interesting.

Dane, anything else you want to ask?

I just, uh, when I just ordered a, a really superstar telescope.

based on oh for real because you're out and there we can see yeah oh yeah I see a night sky out here there's no way I'm burning light it's it's stunning but yeah it's fascinating and congratulations and thanks for doing it it's really really interesting and it was great to to watch so um

I guess we'll just all be kind of more interested in this area.

Yeah, I think my hope is that the film just makes the average person out there in the public realize that this is a real situation that everyone needs to be aware of.

And then eventually that will, that will lead to the public pushing

its elected representatives everywhere, all over the world, to be more transparent about this. And I think it's only a matter of time before we get to a place where a sitting president in the U.S.

steps to the mic and tells the world definitively we're not alone in the universe. The base facts.
I think this film really sets the stage for that.

I wouldn't be surprised if it happened sooner than later. Um, anyway, Dana will do it.
Yeah, there you go. I'm gonna make a big announcement.
Excuse me. We're gonna make it.
We know how to make it.

We're gonna tell a lot of people about a lot of things. You're not gonna believe it.
You're gonna, you're gonna believe it. And many people are saying it.

And if you look at it and you think about it, what is it? I'm not gonna say that.

All right, Dan. Thanks, buddy.
Uh, uh, we'll look for you out there and we'll look for a sequel one day. Thanks for coming on.
Appreciate it. Appreciate the support, guys.

Well, that was interesting um

yes that's it was a lot like i watched it and i it was sort of building up and i was like oh boy and i was watching before i went to bed so i i stopped it of course because i'm a total puss were scared i was just getting a little weirded out scared yeah they say some stuff and they're like

so uh and i kind of buy into it anyway and so by the way i'm i'm scared of it but i do want to know about it it's a definitely a intriguing

fascinating area.

And if they, if the aliens that are, you know, zooming around stuff, if they are potentially some of them are fans of this podcast,

I'll just say, I'm not afraid of you.

This is my message for you, aliens. Bring it on.

Yeah. I say, I say, rack them.

I haven't said rack them in a while, too. I would say it to them.

But ultimately, it was worth it. I did rent it.
i guess you could rent or buy i rented it just on a whim and uh

i think it's it's worth the watch and thanks dan for coming on and uh i was gonna wrap up but i do want to say dana by popular demand we definitely want to do this buzzing around segment because i work on these for months we have to inject

comedy scenarios into this okay okay i wrote some names down All right, hold on. I went into your arsenal.
Hold on.

What do you you have to do? I'm just going to tell you.

Well, I'm going to write them down. Go ahead.
Oh, okay. I can't see you anymore.
I'm going to find you. I know.
Hang on. Oh, there you are.
Yikes. Oh, you showed up on camera.
By the way,

the stuff was so technological when Dan was talking. I could tell I understood it and you didn't.
But that was fine. I'll tell you more about it later and what it means.

Yeah, I fell asleep with my eyes open twice.

You were like, I don't know what's going on. I couldn't understand a thing.
You kept getting in there. They have a lot of physicists on there, They're smarter.

They're like, that kind of lost me because they know what they're talking about. Yeah.
Okay.

Here we go.

Your scenario, because I have to go with Nikki Glazer to the Caesars Palace in January. Oh, yeah.
Is Vegas, and it's a card game.

Actually, anything in the casino. Okay.
And

Liam Neeson.

And Michael Caine. This is going to be buzzing around.
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I'd like for you to hit me.

What do you mean? What do you mean, hit you? Well,

I'd like another cult

because I'm showing a 16,

and I doubt they got away with this. So you got to hit me.
Oh, you're going to hit on 16.

All right. I've got skills I've acquired that make me a nightmare for a hitting man like you.

Do you know who I'm doing? That's good. Liam Neeson, yeah.
Liam Neeson. From taken.
Hit from taken. Yes.

And he's still angry. He's forgot about everything, usually.

I totally busted. You screwed me over.
You should have denied me the card. You can't blame me.
I have skills I've acquired that make me a nightmare. I heard that part.

And it's boring the second time. What about you, Bill Clinton? Well, I've got, I mean, I've got two queens.

And I've got three aces. That's called a full house.
We're not playing poker, you fool.

you can't wear that 21 when you play poker you bloody fool you're out of your mind

i like this is tracking oh look

who's there

it's paul bacot oh in the casino

well you look like you're having a lot of fun he's playing poker he's playing 21 you know i say we start all over and we play tiddlywinks you know tiddlywinks that's very popular and people seem to like it.

What about Kerplunk? Kerplunk.

My name is Kerplunk. Do you know Kerplunk? It's an old game you could play.
Oh, Kerplunk? Do you know what Tiddlywinks is? Yeah.

I'm not really old, but I've heard that.

I got this. Here's what Liam Neeson also says.

When Michael Cain says, I'm going to hit on 16. He goes, Good luck.

It's a little Jason Jason Stratham going in. You know, when the guy calls on taken and he can't find his voice, he goes,

he plays it back, and he hears a guy go, because he goes, I'm going to find you. And the guy goes, good luck.

Anyway, kill you. Why don't let's make Jason Stratham the dealer.
Michael, what's his name? Stray

Stratham. Yeah.

So I've just sat down. I have a cocktail.
And I just want to know, are you the one dealing the cards? Are you the dealer?

I'm the beekeeper.

And I keep the bays.

But are you also, I know you're a beekeeper, but are you also the dealer?

I'm only doing this undercover.

Well, shouldn't he say, I'm the dealer. I'm the dealer.
I've got all the cards.

And an idea hits you. You might not get up.

God,

this thing's falling apart. I like how you brought me into it, though.

I brought you into it. I bring Bill Clinton in.
I like cards. I've always loved cards.
I like getting hit on by cards. And it's a beautiful hit on.

Beautiful. It's a good hitting on people.
But I thought he'd go, I'm the dealer and I deal cards.

Like it's some war movie or something. I deal the cards.
I deal the cards because I'm the dealer. Get it?

Jesus.

A little bit of a. I don't know if I like my part in this.
Well, I don't know. Maybe this one discombobulated.
No, I liked it. But that's

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