The Land Before Time

Speaker 1 This is Free with Ads, the the podcast that asks the question: why pay Hulu eight bucks a month so your dinosaur-obsessed kids can watch Jurassic Park when you can go online for free and watch a dinosaur movie classic that also teaches you that everyone you love will die and you'll have to watch them.

Speaker 1 I'm Jordan Morris, and I'm Emily Fleming.

Speaker 2 Today's movie is The Land Before Time, the 80s animated dinosaur romp that's so sad it makes the first 10 minutes of UP look like the first 10 minutes of The Clumps.

Speaker 1 Filling in for the vacationing, super producer Matt Lieb is an equally super producer, the host of the Sea Jurassic Write podcast, Stephen Ray Morris.

Speaker 1 Stephen Ray Morris, thank you for filling in today.

Speaker 3 Wait, do I get

Speaker 3 all right? That was a fun enough sound.

Speaker 2 I can't tell if that was a dinosaur sound or a motorcycle.

Speaker 3 I mean, pretty cool if it's both, you know, a dinosaur riding motorcycle.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, that'd be sick. Yeah.
Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 Also joining us today,

Speaker 1 this is really cool. We have a fantastic guest.

Speaker 1 She's a writer, a stand-up, an actor who you've seen on HBO's The Sex Life of College Girls and one of the hosts of the podcast TV Chef Fantasy League Sierra Cato. Hi Sierra.

Speaker 1 Hello. Yay!

Speaker 4 Thanks for having me. I just want to say, how would they make dinosaur noises today? Maybe they use motorcycles

Speaker 1 to create a novel. That's a good point.
That's a good point. yeah we don't know what they sounded like they probably sound like a sweet harley yeah tearing down the highway yeah yeah harlosaurus rex

Speaker 2 life is a sharp tooth

Speaker 1 i want to eat him all night

Speaker 1 i guess he eats you and we'll work on this work on this song period yeah yeah we'll work on it um before we talk about this movie which is as of this recording streaming free with ads we're going to get to know our guest in a segment we call Talk to Guest.

Speaker 2 Talk to guest.

Speaker 1 Sierra, you're one of the hosts of TV Chef Fantasy League. Explain to us the premise of this podcast.

Speaker 4 It's one of those pods that, you know, you got to love if you're into cooking shows, competition cooking shows specifically. And you also like fantasy leagues.

Speaker 4 But I don't really do much fantasy leagues. So, you know, I would say if you're really into chef competition shows, I'm talking top chef.
I'm talking master chef. I'm talking British Bake Off.

Speaker 4 That's a real popular one. So me and my co-host, Mike Cabillon, Iffy Wadiway.

Speaker 1 Oh, ify. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Maximum fun. We're all, it's all the same people.

Speaker 4 All the same people.

Speaker 1 We just reshuffled. We just did.
Slightly different premises.

Speaker 4 But we discuss whatever shows on the air. So right now we're doing top chefs season 22, Destination Canada.
Nice.

Speaker 4 And we draft the chefs onto our teams and we recap the episodes, but then we also get points based on like, if our chef won whatever challenge or if they cried, they get half a point.

Speaker 4 You know, the tears be flowing in reality TV.

Speaker 1 So do you get points if someone says, I'm not here to make friends?

Speaker 4 Oh, we don't have that in this one, but we would if we were doing like, yeah, we try to tailor it to each show. I would say top chef's pretty sweet.

Speaker 4 Like they're kind of a little too sweet to each other now, you know? So maybe they are there to make friends.

Speaker 1 So they kind of, yeah, so if they said that, if I make some friends, I'm happy.

Speaker 4 In fact, it's probably pretty good networking as a professional chef. Yeah,

Speaker 4 so yeah, so it's more like things like them saying, oh, you know, normally this dish takes four hours to make. I'm going to make it in 30 minutes.
Like, that's a quarter point. Okay.

Speaker 4 Or them saying, I miss my kids or my family. They get.

Speaker 1 a quarter point there.

Speaker 4 But if they don't miss their kids or their family, they probably have a better chance of winning because they're hardcore.

Speaker 1 You want to be unattached. No attachments.
That's how you become a real chef.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Emily, do you ever watch a cooking show?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm sometimes on a cooking show.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 That's right. Mythical Kitchen.
Oh, right. On YouTube.
I sometimes dabble over there. I'm on a historical cooking show called Meals of History.
And then we recreate historical meals.

Speaker 2 And then I play a stupid character and pretend to cook. He'll like give me little tiny bowls of spices and then I will dump them into a bigger bowl.

Speaker 1 That's incredible.

Speaker 2 But that's not really a competition show.

Speaker 1 Sure, you're a big helper.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'm a big helper.

Speaker 1 You're a big helper.

Speaker 2 I'm a big girl and I like to get approval from daddy.

Speaker 2 But other than that, no, I didn't really watch the competition shows. I just get so hungry.

Speaker 2 But I need to. Bake Off is, anytime I watch it, I'm like, wow, this really is, I understand why this is a phenomenon.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't. It is, it is, I mean, this is the coldest take in the world about that show, but it is so relaxing.
It is a, it is a nap. It is sweet.

Speaker 1 Uh, Sierra, do you use cooking shows for like relaxation TV? Is it like a soothing?

Speaker 4 I mean, before this podcast, maybe, now I'm like furiously taking notes because I have to like be, you know, have the points. I'm the commissioner of the season.

Speaker 4 So I'm also kind of walking us through the beats of the episode. So in that sense, it's not, it's like, I got a pause it.
Wait, what was that? It's a crude oh, what?

Speaker 4 You know, so that's not very relaxing. But before, yeah, I would say it's, it does, it's as long as you have some food nearby, like you're saying, it does make you hungry.

Speaker 4 So you got to make sure you're not without food. And then you can have a great time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think,

Speaker 2 like, bake off, you could sit there with just a cup of tea and like, like, I don't know, some cookies and then watch it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just eat a whole blanket. Just eat a whole blanket.
Eat a whole blanket.

Speaker 4 Ideally, yeah, a sheetcake nearby to consume.

Speaker 2 Honestly, an edible blanket sounds like a really good idea. I would love to be like, take a nap underneath a warm sheetcake.

Speaker 1 Sure. And just take little bites and then fall back asleep.

Speaker 1 That sounds pretty British to me.

Speaker 3 If someone's going to crack the edible blanket, it's going to be British.

Speaker 2 A shortbread blanket.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But soft.

Speaker 1 Sierra, when I asked you what movie you might like to watch for this pod, you suggested something animated. You're a big fan of animated movies?

Speaker 4 I do. I think, you know, grew up like everybody watching them, but then never stopped.

Speaker 4 So I think just continually love a good animated movie. They're always just

Speaker 4 beautiful, but also, man, you know, I mean, come on, who doesn't always love a Pixar or a Miyazaki or, you know, any of that, right? Like, even as an adult, beautiful.

Speaker 2 But how do you feel about Don Bluth?

Speaker 1 Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 Please.

Speaker 4 Even more so.

Speaker 1 Well, here's the secret about me.

Speaker 1 We're Booth Boys.

Speaker 4 We're Booth Boys. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Bluth Babes and Bluth Boys.

Speaker 4 Never thought.

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa, yeah.

Speaker 4 Getting excited here. Yeah, I do think I was a

Speaker 4 Land Before Time 3 head mostly, I realized.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask about the sequel. So

Speaker 1 you think three is the best. Well, like the Godfather movies.
Land Before Time. The third one is the best.
Oh, right.

Speaker 4 Like, I think I had that on VHS, and I might have also had the first one, but for some reason, the third one really left an imprint because there's something to do with, like, there's a drought or there's no food.

Speaker 4 Well, this one, there's no food too. So that's a recurring theme here, but there's a drought in that one.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Oh, no, what happened? We ate it all.

Speaker 4 And so the drought leads to them finding little puddles of water and leaves. And I found that very viscerally like, ooh, puddles of water and leaves.
Like, I want to drink out of a leaf one day.

Speaker 4 And I feel like that just stuck with me.

Speaker 1 That is the thing about these Don Bluth movies. There's something in it that's so like tactile.
There's always something you want to put in your mouth or put on your head.

Speaker 2 It's like or snuggle into.

Speaker 1 Snuggle into.

Speaker 1 Like a mama dinosaur's craggly, scaly skin.

Speaker 4 Dead corpse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just like your mommy's

Speaker 1 mommy's cozy dead corpse. Oh boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, hey,

Speaker 1 we've started talking about it. Actually, you know, maybe we start before we start talking about Land Before Time.

Speaker 1 Sierra, apologies if I'm getting your resume wrong, but you've done voiceover in animated movies, right?

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 yeah, just one, I think. Yes.
I got to do voices for Ria and the Last Dragon. Wow.
Another fun, great Disney, you know, it was all during the lockdown, I think. So did it from home.

Speaker 4 Maybe use this mic.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 But then I think they brought me in.

Speaker 1 I can't believe we're sitting there.

Speaker 4 That's how the part it is or how little my part was. It didn't matter.

Speaker 4 But yeah, then I think they brought me in because probably sounded like shit. But yeah, so that was cool.
Like little characters. It was like three lines or something, but the dream.

Speaker 4 Love to be a part of it. The dream.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And that's a really fun one, too.
I feel like, man, it kind of flies under the radar, Ryan, the Last Dragon, but some of the kiddos, they do love it.

Speaker 4 I go, you know, I go to Disneyland and go take a picture in front of that little map they have there of like the land.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen the map, but next time. Cumatra?

Speaker 4 Yeah. So yeah, go take a picture of the map.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I think there's a meet and greet. You can meet Raya at Disneyland.

Speaker 1 Very cool.

Speaker 4 But that's all I know.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 let's start talking land before time. I think this was a fun one.
We've been wanting to do this for a while. We thought this would be the perfect opportunity.

Speaker 1 Let's go around the horn and talk about

Speaker 1 our feelings about the Land Before Time franchise. Sierra, you were a big three fan, and maybe that's a little bit of a

Speaker 1 difference in our age, a little bit. It's like I was super in the pocket for the first one.

Speaker 1 Emily, have you seen any of these? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Hang on. Let me get my glasses on.

Speaker 1 That's how old I am.

Speaker 2 Let me get my glasses on so I can tell you.

Speaker 1 I remember movies better when I'm wearing my spectacles.

Speaker 2 I loved, I think this might have been the first movie I saw in movie theaters.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.
Cool.

Speaker 2 Because I remember it being big. I mean, I need to ask my parents about this, but I got the.

Speaker 2 I don't know if the stuffed animals were available through Pizza Hut or what the, I know that there were the rubber like hand puppets, but I had the stuffed animals.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I had, I had Petrie and Sarah and Spike.

Speaker 2 No, I had, I think Ducky and Littlefoot were like a hot commodity. Oh, yeah.
But I had everybody else. And I could still like remember what they felt like too.
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 I wonder if my parents still have these, but I loved it so much. Boohooed through the whole movie.
After watching it this time, I can't believe I watched that movie as a kid and survived.

Speaker 2 Like, I just, I can't believe it. The anxiety, the sadness, the, like, also the wholesomeness and, like, how sweet the movie is.
Like, it is really sweet. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I, my heart was breaking through watching it again. I was like, wow, this movie is, I'm also, it's, I think I missed some of the messages as a kid, but it made me

Speaker 2 miss my mom, even though she was alive and sitting next to me.

Speaker 1 It makes you feel like, like, this is probably what it feels like for your mom to die. I'm going to go.
I know.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And honestly, this movie for me is the saddest like parental figure dying on screen.
It's got to be. Yes.
Bambi ain't shit. Your mom was asking for it.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Get rid of that one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, get rid of that one. But this was like, wow, really moving.
But yeah, that's, that was, I love this movie a lot.

Speaker 1 I would like to hear Stephen Ray Morris chime in. Stephen Ray Morris, one of the biggest dinosaur fans I know, and I know myself, so that is saying something.

Speaker 1 You host a Jurassic Park podcast.

Speaker 1 Where does this movie fall in the pantheon of dinosaur movies?

Speaker 3 I mean, the reality is, is there isn't that many good dinosaur movies where like Land Before Time 2 and 3 fall also in maybe the top 10 as well. I mean, Land Before Time 2 is Chomper.

Speaker 3 You know, they have to teach Chomper not to eat the other animals. It's kind of fun.

Speaker 1 But in those movies, the food goes away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 But yeah, like Land Before Time, I mean, it's, yeah, it's like Bambi for our generation.

Speaker 3 And I did get to tell this screenwriter of Land Before Time that he traumatized all of us because I interviewed him, Stu Krieger, and I was just like, why did you do this to us? It's all your fault.

Speaker 1 Does he know? Does he like get that a lot?

Speaker 3 I think.

Speaker 3 I think at this point now.

Speaker 3 And honestly, the coolest thing I learned talking to him was that the way he learned, the way he got inspired to do the tree star was that he laid on the ground to try and see what like the world looked like from a kid's eyes.

Speaker 3 And so that's how he like came up with that.

Speaker 3 I thought that was very wholesome and sweet.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 there's a lot of dinosaur behaviors I have questions about. I know he probably didn't do everything 100% accurate, but like, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. They all did say yep, yep, yep, though.
That was a real scientific

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 4 Right. Jude's etched in the fossil.

Speaker 1 Do y'all remember the first movie you cried in as a kid? I remember mine very specifically. Well, what was was it? My girl.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I think a popular one for people around my age.

Speaker 1 My girl, Macaulay Culkin, hot off Home Alone, a very misleading ad campaign where you thought it was going to be a funny romp, but instead, it's a coming-of-age dramedy where Nicole Culkin is killed by bees.

Speaker 2 Yes, and Jamie Lee Curtis is a mortician.

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot that Jamie Lee Curtis was in that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just, where are his glasses? He needs his glasses.

Speaker 1 He needs his

Speaker 2 Trust me, Anna Klemsky. He don't need them.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 2 he's dead.

Speaker 4 He's dead. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is he going to do with this?

Speaker 2 I think they take the eyes out.

Speaker 4 Yeah. His face is all swollen from the bee stings.

Speaker 1 You know, where's his face? Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 The fact that when he was in the casket and the little, like,

Speaker 2 like sting marks are still on his face, I'm like, yo, Jamie Lee Curtis is a suck-ass mortician. Yeah, just a little bit of a shit.

Speaker 2 Get some cover-up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Make him look good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Spruce him up for the big ol' wake or whatever.

Speaker 1 Makeup on him. Good God.

Speaker 1 Sarah, do you remember like early cry movies?

Speaker 4 I'm not, I know I cried in this. I don't think it was the first, but it was such a like shocking cry.

Speaker 4 I think my family went to see Lord of the Rings like at a drive-in theater. And then when Bilbo like pops his eyes out and gets all ring, ring hungry,

Speaker 4 freaked us out as kids. And we were like, you know, I don't think my parents knew it was a scary movie.
So so we all like burst into tears in the back of our truck, and then we were all like crying.

Speaker 4 So it's like, oh no, the daughters have been

Speaker 1 different kind of cries. Drive them home.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm terrified. I've seen, yeah, I've seen hell.

Speaker 3 I mean, I had a drive-in experience too, but it was more of the... Jordan, like you're saying, the sort of existential one, which was Jack, the Robin Williams.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The premise of Jack is that he's aging in reverse.

Speaker 2 He's aging rapidly.

Speaker 1 Rapidly, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and it's one of those things where I was probably too young

Speaker 3 to know what the existential crisis of it was, but could just feel how sad it was.

Speaker 2 Oh, gosh, yeah.

Speaker 2 They still made him go to school.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Like, you think you couldn't go have fun for the remaining time or whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what's he going to learn?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 And the fractions before you go, you know?

Speaker 2 I finally learned a long,

Speaker 2 I don't even know how to make up ideas about math.

Speaker 1 Long division is a division.

Speaker 2 Long division, and now I bid you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
The best part of it. Every beyond I go.

Speaker 1 Knowing what a remainder is.

Speaker 3 The best part was that when that was over, we just turned and watched like the rest of Independence Day.

Speaker 1 So made up for it. Oh, good.
Didn't cry during that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. That one's not.

Speaker 4 existentially burned.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Emily, any early cry movies?

Speaker 2 I think that this, I, since this is the earliest experience of seeing a movie in the theaters, I know how sad it made me. I think this has got to be it.

Speaker 2 This has got to be the first one, but I'm trying to think of other ones that made me cry.

Speaker 2 Um, they're not quite coming to oh, a little princess from 1996, yeah, um, which has been free with ads on occasion, um, but not at the moment. But if we, if it's on during Christmas,

Speaker 2 I swear to God, like you to watch it.

Speaker 1 It's so good. My mom took me to see Steel Magnolias, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that'll do it.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 let's talk about this

Speaker 1 traumatizing movie

Speaker 1 that is actually very beautiful. Very good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so The Land Before Time,

Speaker 1 produced by, I learned in the credits, I had kind of forgotten this. I haven't seen this movie in like 30 years.
Me too. Yeah.
Produced by George Lucas and Steven Spielberg. So that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 And directed by our boy,

Speaker 1 the man, the RC Cola to Disney's Coke, Don Bluth.

Speaker 1 We say this very affectionately.

Speaker 1 Directed by Don Bluth. It is the time of the dinosaurs.
We get a little narration telling us that, yeah, it's the time of the dinosaurs. And so

Speaker 1 we see

Speaker 1 water ones and flying ones, and then we see a

Speaker 1 herd of triceratops

Speaker 1 traversing the plains. And one of them opens its mouth and goes, come on.

Speaker 1 So as a little kid, I wanted nothing more than to hear a dinosaur talk. And the first thing one says in this movie is, come on.
He's just like a cranky, mean Triceratops.

Speaker 1 So yeah, so we're going to.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's Sarah's dad, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Sarah's dad, we're going to learn.

Speaker 4 Angry dad vibes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's an asshole.

Speaker 1 A real piece of shit. Come on.

Speaker 2 And he lived.

Speaker 1 It's fucking nasty. That's, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 Sure. Sometimes the assholes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, always the assholes.

Speaker 1 The assholes live a long time. That's one of the great lessons of this movie.

Speaker 1 Is that your

Speaker 1 asshole racist dad will live forever?

Speaker 2 Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 That Triceratops smokes a pack a day. Tricks whiskey.

Speaker 1 Still alive. Never exercises.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 we see a bunch of baby dinosaurs being born. We see Ducky, she's a Hadrosaurus, Sarah, Triceratops, and a Brontosaurus, Littlefoot.

Speaker 1 The narrator says he's his family's last hope for the future. Oh, my God.
So these baby dinosaurs

Speaker 1 are maybe the cutest characters ever committed to film. Like, they make Bluey look like literal dog shit.

Speaker 1 Pikachu seems like a diarrhea-clogged toilet compared to 100%.

Speaker 4 That nasty poop tank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 They're so cute. It's so insane.

Speaker 4 Their voices. Are their voices kids?

Speaker 1 Like real kids?

Speaker 2 That makes sense. They are.
And I would like to point something out that we are not going to discuss, but we've also, we love Don Bluth.

Speaker 2 And we did talk about all dogs go to heaven. There is a backstory about the little girl that does the voice for the little girl and for Ducky.

Speaker 2 And immediately people were commenting in like Reddit about how we didn't mention it last time. We're not going to mention it, guys.

Speaker 1 We're not going to go

Speaker 1 to depressing real life stories or hearing it be funny to talk about a movie.

Speaker 2 If you want to be real bummed out, you can Google it, but you don't have to. You can just have fun with us.

Speaker 2 But the thing is, we're not stupid. We know the story.
We know what happened.

Speaker 2 Reddit, sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no. Reddit needs to be put in its place, right?

Speaker 2 It really does all the time, every day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the kids in this movie are great. And I think, like, having watched a couple of like Don Bluth movies for this, like, I think that's part of his genius.

Speaker 1 He gets these great performances out of kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's usually, you know, in Disney movies, it's adults playing kids. And yeah, these really have a weird kid quality to them that's really, really great.

Speaker 2 That's interesting. Is that the case with Disney movies? There's usually an adult doing the kid's voice.

Speaker 1 I think so. I think that's usually how stuff like that is done.

Speaker 2 Well, that's how Simpsons is.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sometimes Pixar movies have actual kids as the kids.

Speaker 1 But yeah, but I think in this case, they are little kids and they sound like little kids. Right.

Speaker 1 It's really, really great, and they're all good.

Speaker 1 So, Littlefoot,

Speaker 1 I think we alluded to it. He curls up in the folds of his mom's skin.
And the narrator

Speaker 1 says they'll be together forever. No, they won't.
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 4 It'll let us.

Speaker 1 Yes. Because.

Speaker 1 Fucking liar.

Speaker 2 Well, his mom lied too, where she was like, we'll get there, I promise. And I'm like, oh, adults lie.

Speaker 2 Maybe that's what the lesson was of this movie when we were watching it as kids. It's like, they just say stuff, you know?

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 1 Be scared. You'll be alone.
They say stuff to shut you up.

Speaker 1 Sure, we're going to the Great Valley. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 Don't ask your mom again.

Speaker 1 So, yes, as we mentioned,

Speaker 1 all the food is drying up. We are reaching the end of the time of the dinosaurs, although apparently they last for 15 or 16 more movies, so it's not that close to the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they're looking for a place that still has foliage. They call it the Great Valley.

Speaker 1 His mom gives Littlefoot a tree star. It's like a leaf shaped like a star.

Speaker 1 And he carries it with him throughout the movie. And it's with him sometimes, and it's with him other times not.
The continuity isn't very good in this.

Speaker 1 Sometimes he has it, sometimes he doesn't, whatever.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, as on their little trek,

Speaker 1 they meet Sarah. She's a triteratops, and she is tough as shit.
She's rough and tumble. She doesn't care.
She doesn't need anybody.

Speaker 1 And she's got a racist dad who doesn't want her playing with long necks.

Speaker 1 So yeah, but they play around anyway, and

Speaker 1 they find a sharp tooth, a Tyrannosaurus Rex. It's really fucking scary.
It chases them all over. And it's interesting, like, it doesn't talk.

Speaker 1 Like, it does, like, it's, it, it makes it so much scarier. Like, they talk.
You could maybe reason with it in this world, but it doesn't. It's just like a fucking monster.

Speaker 1 Yeah, totally terrifying.

Speaker 1 And they get saved by Littlefoot's mom.

Speaker 1 And the mom and the

Speaker 1 T-Rex have this, like, really crazy fight, this really intense fight. Oh, I should maybe say, I think Littlefoot's mom is the the tallest person in the movie.

Speaker 2 Oh, tallest guy.

Speaker 1 And the fight is really brutal. It's something I noticed, like, just watching it this time.
There's this little shot where you can see it, like, bite a chunk out of her. It's in, like, in the shadow.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy, this fucking movie. And like,

Speaker 1 yeah, so she's fighting the T-Rex. They, like, knock it down a cliff.
There's this huge earthquake that, like, separates all the babies. Yeah, what the timing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, crazy. It's just like, oh, and there's an earthquake.
And it's like, it, it,

Speaker 1 yeah, it is an earthquake that leaves all of the babies on one side and all of the parents on the other side. It's like so convenient.
Um,

Speaker 1 so now the kids have to learn to grow up. Um,

Speaker 2 well, I think we should also mention that Littlefoot was very curious, and like all these, these kids are pretty wholesome.

Speaker 2 And um, before all that happens, he tries to befriend Sarah, our uh triceratops, and her family is like, we don't like three horns.

Speaker 1 Is that what they call it?

Speaker 1 Three horns don't play with long necks.

Speaker 2 They don't play with long necks. So there is like a separation of different,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 breeds of dinosaurs that aren't supposed to hang out together. But, you know, there's, so there's that, but then this movie is about everybody coming together.

Speaker 1 You know, that's true to make one

Speaker 1 big herd, a chosen.

Speaker 4 The next generation can save us all by

Speaker 2 binding together. By also dying.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of,

Speaker 1 so Littlefoot finds his mom. She's like, dying.
He's like, get up, mom, get up. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Rough. And the rain.

Speaker 1 The rain. Jesus.
And so, and she says, like,

Speaker 1 you know, find the great valley. Let your heart guide you.

Speaker 1 Whispers. So listen closely.
And then my fucking movie cut to a Spanks ad.

Speaker 1 One of the most

Speaker 1 per. I mean, it could, it was like almost like, what's the funniest place to throw a Spanks ad? Right here.
And maybe the saddest part of any movie.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Why are you getting Spanks ads?

Speaker 1 I am in an Airbnb. Ah.
And I am on someone else's TV, so I have someone else's algorithm. And yeah, so I'm getting a lot of ads for stuff I wouldn't normally.

Speaker 1 Anyways, I'm considering Spanks. Apparently, they'll make me look really good.

Speaker 2 And they do not breathe.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, okay. So, you know, something to consider before you purchase them.
I have some baby powder.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so Littlefoot, he's really depressed. He finds this old man dinosaur

Speaker 1 who's like mean at first, but then he kind of realizes what's going on.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 what was this guy? He just kind of disappeared, I guess. He looks like he could be Spike's grandpa.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. Maybe he's a Spike relative.
I think he's the same kind of breed of... He's like a Stegosaurus or an Ankylosaurus or something.

Speaker 2 He was cool.

Speaker 1 He was great. Great eyebrows on this guy.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And great advice. The guy, he's like, get out of here.
He's like, okay, I'll say the wisest thing anyone's ever said, I guess. Then leave.

Speaker 4 Right, right. Yeah, he understood they were, you know, in the shadow of a dead mother.

Speaker 1 Needed a little help. Oh, I guess.

Speaker 4 And then get out of there.

Speaker 2 But it was also so sad because Little Fit was mad at her for dying.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
It goes through are like the stages of grief, you know. Wow.

Speaker 2 But yeah, he was like,

Speaker 2 and then somehow, like, that conversation with that old-wise

Speaker 2 eyebrowed

Speaker 1 stegosaurus. Yeah, you think that's supposed to have hair? They're reptiles.
Why does someone have giant eyebrows?

Speaker 2 Well, I guess that's kind of up for debate now. They're saying that they might have had feathers.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Maybe these were little eye feathers.

Speaker 2 Yes, he was a Martin

Speaker 1 Scorsese with just just like feathers.

Speaker 2 Scorsese saurus.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Just a dinosaur who cares a lot about film preservation.

Speaker 3 That character's name is Ruder, which is never said anywhere. Rooter?

Speaker 1 Rooter. Oh.

Speaker 3 And it's the narrator at the beginning, Pat Hingle, who was Commissioner Gordon.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. Oh, oh.

Speaker 1 Oh. That's Commissioner Gordon.
Deep lore.

Speaker 2 Like from what, from the original Batman series?

Speaker 3 From the, I think the, like, Batman Forever Forever and like Batman and Robin.

Speaker 2 Oh. Oh, his voice is great.

Speaker 1 He is a great voice.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no wonder.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 They just threw him in there because they're like, well, we got this guy.

Speaker 4 Should we add some character here?

Speaker 1 That is correct. Give him some eyebrows.

Speaker 2 Yeah, gifts of eyebrows.

Speaker 1 We got him. We got him for one day.

Speaker 4 Let's go. Draw something.

Speaker 2 Slap on your eyebrows and say something wise.

Speaker 1 So he, so, you know, Littlefoot sees like a shadow of his mom and he thinks it's his mom. And then he, like, he hears her voice telling him kind of what to do.

Speaker 1 And she says, like, go to the burning valley past the rock that looks like a long neck. A little logic thing here I never noticed.
Mom's ghost is giving new information. We haven't heard this before.

Speaker 1 This thing about the long neck rock.

Speaker 2 Well, but maybe this is the thing,

Speaker 2 the way that I've looked at it is like, I feel like this is something she's reiterated to him in the past a lot. Probably.
And they didn't want it to be redundant in the script.

Speaker 2 So they just kind of made it sound like information that he knew. At least that's how I accepted it.

Speaker 1 But Bob's like, I learned some new things in heaven, Littlefoot.

Speaker 1 Dinosaur heaven.

Speaker 1 I was in dinosaur heaven and they gave me more specific instructions for you.

Speaker 2 Dude, I bet dinosaur heaven sucks.

Speaker 1 It's about to be great. It's crowded.

Speaker 2 It's just like, it's heaven, but it's like everything that happens on earth, but it's just happening. So there's like a T-Rex's version of heaven is still eating the long necks.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 can't escape it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And jamming with Hendrix.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But not Elvis, because he's still alive.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. You're an Elvis truther.
Okay. That's a fun new wrinkle.

Speaker 2 I'm just, yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe. I don't know.
No, go with it, Emily. That's interesting.

Speaker 2 Does that just seem accurate for my personality? I feel like I'm learning that everyone thinks that I'm maybe a horrible deadbeat dad from the 1980s.

Speaker 1 And you know what? It tracks. I saw Elvis at a truck stop.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Forever.

Speaker 2 He had feathers for eyebrows.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
All right.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 No, I love this Emily for you. I think go with it.
Elvis is still alive. I saw him.

Speaker 1 So he, so Littlefoot starts kind of meeting all the other dinosaurs that he's going to like do the little journey with. He meets a ducky who is, she's like a little hadrosaurus.

Speaker 2 She's yeah, I didn't know what this dinosaur was exactly.

Speaker 1 Stephen, am I right about that? A hadrosaurus? They're kind of a

Speaker 1 water plant-eating.

Speaker 3 Yeah, duck-billed dinosaurs, kind of the common, like, or how they've been described because they all have kind of like cool head crests and stuff and make like honking sounds. Or, you know.

Speaker 3 Scientists who've taken way too much time to like blow out of like the fossil horns to be like, you know, and be like, oh, yeah, this is sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 the eyelashes on this dinosaur, fabulous.

Speaker 1 They're all fabulous. Littlefoot, too.
Littlefoot has very beautiful eyelashes.

Speaker 2 They all have adorable, and it really just adds to the like childlike cherub kind of look to them.

Speaker 1 Sure. I love to grow into their eyelashes.

Speaker 2 I love how all of these dinosaurs pretty much have a name that alludes to the species they are, except for Sarah.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait, Triceratops.

Speaker 1 Triceratops, yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 It does translate with a lot of things. It was really fun to see you get that in real time.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we meet Ducky.

Speaker 1 They call her a big mouth, and she says, Yep, yep, yep. That's her catchphrase.

Speaker 1 Nothing was funnier to me as a kid than yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 That was, to me, that was the greatest joke ever written at the time.

Speaker 4 It lights up the brain.

Speaker 1 It does. It really does.

Speaker 2 I mean, her little voice is so cute.

Speaker 2 but also, I kind of like the ducky is kind of like, you know, the ditzy blonde of the crew

Speaker 2 who just sees the best at everyone and doesn't like, is not stressed by anything. Like, cried just for a moment and then got over it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ducky's great. They meet Petri.

Speaker 1 He's a flyer. He's like a little pterodactyl, but he can't fly.
Will he learn by the end of the movie? Sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Kind of.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so, like, while they're like, everybody's meeting and kind of like, you know, form forming a little crew, Sarah finds the like,

Speaker 1 you know, she thinks the sharp tooth is dead, so she starts like fucking around with it.

Speaker 1 And then it like wakes up right as she's about to like

Speaker 1 butt it in the eye.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That scary eye. The thing is, not talking and those eyes are just nothing.

Speaker 1 No kidding.

Speaker 4 Full monster.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. Is this

Speaker 1 what was okay? I'm trying to think what was scarier to me as a kid.

Speaker 1 We've talked about who framed Roger Rabbit.

Speaker 1 Judge Doom's eyes popping out. So maybe like eyeball stuff to me is kind of scary.

Speaker 2 I think the classic jump scare thing of like doing a close-up on a closed eye and it opening gets me every time. I don't know why it's a jump scare, even though I know it's coming.

Speaker 1 Because you're filming an eye, you know, it's not just going to remain closed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you never do a close-up on an eye and it just goes, hello. Like, it was like this sensual eye that opens up and you're like, I'm glad you're awake, one eye.

Speaker 4 The T-Rex needs some lashes.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 4 Even more dramatic. Yes.

Speaker 1 He needs beautiful. But also.

Speaker 1 Yeah, beautiful little foot-style lashes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Get that mascara.

Speaker 4 I think. I was just going to say that.

Speaker 1 Maybe she was born with it.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's a

Speaker 1 sharp tooth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever. You just say whatever on a podcast.

Speaker 2 When Matt's not here, we can't do the songs good. And I feel bad.

Speaker 1 Our songs are worse. Our songs are bad.

Speaker 3 He's going to juzh it up, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, good. That beats.

Speaker 2 Maybe he's born with it.

Speaker 1 Sharp tooth.

Speaker 4 I just remember being very mad at Sarah throughout the whole movie as a kid, just being like, why can't you just behave and not get into trouble?

Speaker 2 I kind of identified with Sarah as a kid,

Speaker 2 I think, because it was like,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I think sometimes.

Speaker 1 You were always headbutting stuff.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, but I also think that when you're kind of a lonely kid and you're angry about like, why don't people want to play with me or like me, then you like.

Speaker 2 start to want to just be better than people like act like oh well you don't like me because you're jealous of me, like, and that never works out. And you end up sleeping alone in the cold

Speaker 2 in the dinosaur ages,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 2 and then everyone abandoning you because you're not fun to hang out with. Like, but I, I guess, I just, I feel for Sarah because her dad was not a pleasant man, also.

Speaker 1 He's a difficult man. Yeah.
Come on. Sure.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He can't be.
He's one of those dads that he's like one of those guys who makes, says mean comments about women, and then you click on his profile, and then he has a daughter.

Speaker 4 Come on, she can't be having a good time. No,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 Sarah's dad just follows porn stars on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sarah, what does he do? You should be ashamed.

Speaker 2 Sarah is just short for Sarah Huckabee.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, oh no, Sarah grows up to be Sarah Huckabee.

Speaker 1 Oh, no,

Speaker 1 Sarah, what an arc.

Speaker 1 So they also meet Spike. He's another non-talking dinosaur, I think.
I mean, some of them talk and some of them don't. I try to figure out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Spike's very cute and nice. He's like a little stegosaurus.

Speaker 1 They try and get this food. They find one tree that has leaves on it.

Speaker 1 It looks delicious. It does.
The leaves really look good.

Speaker 1 I think something else looks tastier in the movie. We'll get to it later, but I think the leaves look the second best in the movie.

Speaker 2 Well, I think that Spike's grass that he was like born in, and this has been discussed online.

Speaker 2 The yellow kind of dried out grass because the crunching almost sounds like popcorn or something. And then when you're in the movies eating popcorn, it just feels like you're also part of it.

Speaker 2 But people talk about it on Instagram. They're like the most delicious looking food in movies.
That is always one of them, that yellow grass that he munches on.

Speaker 1 I'll say, what we're talking about, I think that the most delicious looking thing in this movie is the tar they fall in later. Oh, I thought you were going to say that.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Does the tar kind of look tasty?

Speaker 2 Yes, it does. It looks like goo,

Speaker 2 like a marshmallow goo, kind of almost, but it's black.

Speaker 4 It's got layers, I feel, you know, like a kind of a multi-layered caramel, you know,

Speaker 4 cake situation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Edible blanket.

Speaker 1 Bring it. And if you, yeah, if you slice the tar, you can see the layers.

Speaker 1 Ooh, a cross-cut

Speaker 1 of tar.

Speaker 1 I had a really tough time at the La Brea tar pits. I tried to eat it.
I fell in.

Speaker 4 It's always happening. That's why your face is on the

Speaker 4 no-go list there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, I am not welcome back there.

Speaker 2 Have y'all been to the tar pits, everybody?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love the tar pits. It's a long time ago.
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 I haven't been in a while, but it really is amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was growing up in Southern California.
It was our field trip place.

Speaker 1 Oh, I one of the most magical places in the world to me. Yes.
I love the La Brea tar pits.

Speaker 3 Well, and it's that thing too, where every time you go, if at least if you're, I feel like it's always like five or six or ten years in between going.

Speaker 3 And yeah, like Jordan, like you growing up in Southern California, but there's different little spots on the grass where the tar starts to bubble up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So they have to like, you know, corner it off, but then you see like sticks stuck in it because kids are just like, no, we want to get to it. It looks delicious.

Speaker 1 It's a problem.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 Let me dip my stick in here and eat the stick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my stick.

Speaker 2 It really is amazing, but I liked the indoor stuff where it was like the giant sloths. I didn't know the giant sloths existed until I moved here and went to that place.
I was like,

Speaker 2 are you kidding? It's so crazy. Like, it really is cool.

Speaker 4 The great Los Angeles sloths.

Speaker 2 I got to go back. The air conditioning in there is 10 out of 10.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2 And then go get drunk at Lakma

Speaker 2 and stuff afterwards. Oh, that's a day.

Speaker 1 That's a day.

Speaker 2 It is. They had the Guillermo del Toro exhibit there when I went to the Tar Pits.
I did a twofer.

Speaker 1 That's a fun day. Oh, so good.
Sorry, we're off subject. No, I think this is sort of on subject.
We'll play Tar Pits. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we're around the Toro.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Torosaurus. Justaurus on

Speaker 1 anything we want, as long as we say Saurus at the end.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so we wait.

Speaker 2 We've just got directors as dinosaurs. What was the one?

Speaker 1 So you've got Marsisaurus.

Speaker 4 That's not as fun.

Speaker 1 Del Torosaurus. Del Torosaurus.

Speaker 4 That rolls off the tongue. All right.

Speaker 2 What about Sophia Coppola? Nope.

Speaker 1 Copoloda. Sophola Coppolaur.

Speaker 1 So Sophia Copolodon, you can say that. Copola Copa.
Ooh, Copolodon. There it goes.
Native, yeah. Nice.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 4 Francis Coppolodon is right there. I see.

Speaker 1 Oh, there it is. There it is.
He's actually Nicholas Cajodon's uncle.

Speaker 4 I'm covering only through the dinosaur lineage, though.

Speaker 1 So, anyway,

Speaker 1 so they're trying to get this food on the tree. They do this teamwork thing to get it, except for Sarah.
She's trying to get it herself. So she's like, doesn't want to do it with the group.

Speaker 2 She's like budding the tree to try and get it and while she's not looking little foot i mean throws a bunch of leaves on her so she thinks she did it it's so fucking cute i can't believe it i can't believe it i yeah anyway it really is but also the going up the uh the tree was the funniest moment of the movie for me i thought it was incredibly hilarious the struggle i always think struggling to do something and not quite getting there is the funniest thing ever like if you trip and you're trying really hard not to like fall down, so you end up inconveniencing yourself even longer to try to keep standing up and then you fall anyway.

Speaker 2 That's like that scene to me. And then Petrie kind of floating down was so funny.
But yeah, I love that scene a lot. Also,

Speaker 2 those leaves, delish.

Speaker 1 They look good.

Speaker 4 They look good. Amazing.

Speaker 2 Definitely.

Speaker 4 And yeah,

Speaker 1 Don Bluth, the Don Bluth movies, like the slapstick scenes are always really good.

Speaker 1 Like the slapstick scenes, like, yeah, those, like, you know, shit going crazy, you know, chase scenes and all dogs go to heaven are so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, this is like, uh, yeah, a place where he, like, really just shreds.

Speaker 2 I, I feel like the difference for me personally between Don Bluth and like Disney movies is

Speaker 2 it feels like you can feel and smell and taste everything in

Speaker 2 that animation. Like,

Speaker 2 even the when Littlefoot is like snuggling up in the loose skin of his mother's back,

Speaker 2 it looks so comfy and I want to get in there.

Speaker 2 Get me in your mother's skin.

Speaker 1 Hey, you can.

Speaker 4 It's up for grabs now.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like a Tanta. Give me that skin.

Speaker 2 But yeah, he's like really good at like, I feel like the.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know. It feels like you can touch and smell and taste everything.
What is that terminology where it feels like you can taste colors and synesthesia?

Speaker 2 I feel like it's the whole, it's like a synesthesia experience.

Speaker 1 You can taste the dinosaur mom's skin. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yummy. There's a word for that, right?

Speaker 4 Oh, gosh. Even Petri, I feel like, has like a, like the little, like the little hands and the...
every little thing with those wings, everything was very like, oh, God, you're so fragile.

Speaker 4 Be careful, you know?

Speaker 4 But also very funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Petrie's great um so yeah so they uh so um littlefoot and sarah uh have another fight and they like all separate littlefoot goes off by himself everybody else goes with sarah um and then they they reach uh the volcano level which means they're almost to the last boss

Speaker 1 we're not going to talk about the nap the sleep oh god that is yeah we're it's another insanely cute moment all the dinosaurs are cold so they all kind of huddle up together and but then Littlefoot went off by himself

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 then Ducky kind of goes to join Littlefoot because, you know, Littlefoot's having a hard time. And then Sarah's left all alone in the cold.

Speaker 1 And I, I cried

Speaker 1 during that.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because just the idea of like

Speaker 2 you're having a hard time with social

Speaker 2 interactions with other kids because I don't know. I really struggled with it and I just went, oh my god, you know you're wrong.
You know you fucked up.

Speaker 2 And now you have to drag your sorry ass back

Speaker 1 over to the dinosaur hole.

Speaker 2 To the dinosaur hole and ask forgiveness and admit defeat. So a lot of that was like admitting when you were wrong.

Speaker 2 A lot of this movie was that and I thought that was a good lesson for sure of like Littlefoot being like, he was wrong about the sharp tooth actually being alive.

Speaker 1 And then Sarah was like, had to admit she was wrong about you know I liked it a lot but yeah made it cry yeah it is this movie is so good with like little kid emotions and like it it's interesting to watch this because I feel like when we go see a you know quote-unquote kids movie now or an animated movie like

Speaker 1 it's pretty sophisticated and I sometimes think like when you go see you know something like that

Speaker 1 that was clearly written by an adult who's processing adult emotions. It's like the, you know,

Speaker 1 sometimes I'm like, this is great and beautiful and like more complex, but like,

Speaker 1 does it, what's a kid getting from this? Like, where the, you know, protagonists of an animated movie are like, did I pick the right job? You know, I'm like,

Speaker 1 you know, so it is, it is interesting to see this movie, which is like, you know, maybe a little creaky to watch for an adult, but I think when you are a kid, these like simple kid emotions are like really powerful.

Speaker 2 For me, it felt like this movie was made for the kid that

Speaker 2 this is the movie that they wish they would have had when they were a kid. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 To process emotions that they had when they were kids or things that, because like it's true, like the way that they confronted death and the way they confronted friendships and

Speaker 2 xenophobia

Speaker 1 and like, you know, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 Another kid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But I mean,

Speaker 2 I feel like as, at least as millennials, which I'm assuming, Sierra, that you are of the

Speaker 2 Gen Z variety, which congratulations.

Speaker 4 Oh, very flattering.

Speaker 1 No, I am a millennial. Oh, okay.
Well,

Speaker 1 sure. Welcome.
I mean, Emily. She's clearly a girl boss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hello.

Speaker 2 And I am your gatekeeper.

Speaker 1 And anyway,

Speaker 2 anyway, so it's like, I don't know. I feel like we had a lot of

Speaker 2 movies kind of about prejudice. Like that was something that was really drilled into like our mind.
And that's why everything is just so shocking to us now.

Speaker 1 It's like, why is there still racism? Land Before Time fixed it, right? It did. It fixed it.

Speaker 4 Obviously, we're Littlefoot and they're the long necks.

Speaker 1 We haven't benefited from the system that existed before us.

Speaker 4 All our babies will be friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Why do we need DEI? There was

Speaker 1 the Land Before Time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, dinosaurs.

Speaker 4 That's all I got from DEI.

Speaker 1 Yeah, racism died with the dinosaurs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the dinosaur equality initiative. Yeah, equality.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. There we go.
That's all you need.

Speaker 1 Well, hey, as we mentioned, they're at the final volcano level.

Speaker 1 The movie is almost over, and we're going to talk about the finale when we come back.

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Speaker 1 time

Speaker 1 with Sierra Cato. Hi, Sierra.
Thanks for being here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, thank you. It's an honor.
It's an honor.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there's these mean dinosaurs who are head-butting each other, Pachycephalosaurus.

Speaker 1 They're all trying to headbutt everybody.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the other dinosaurs who aren't Sarah save her by going in the delicious tar and making themselves look like one big crazy monster scares off the scares off the mean dinosaurs. That was cool.

Speaker 1 That was good. Good gag.
Good gag.

Speaker 2 It's like the kids in a trench coat, but it's the tar.

Speaker 1 It is. Yeah, it was the first time.

Speaker 4 Dinosaur and a tar.

Speaker 1 That old gag. The dinosaur.

Speaker 1 Classic.

Speaker 4 To be fair, I would, if I had Pachycephalosaurus, is that what it is? I think so, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if I were them, I'd...

Speaker 4 I'd also use that nice shiny head.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. Right?

Speaker 4 Butt with everyone.

Speaker 1 That would be fun to butt if you had the head. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because I bet it's pretty, I bet, you know, I would say I bunk heads every so often with people by accident. Or like,

Speaker 4 you know, I would as a child, you know, playing sports and stuff. And I would say most of the time, I don't feel it as much as the other person.

Speaker 1 Humble brag. Wow.
So you think you got a strong skull?

Speaker 1 Yeah, strong skull, no, no nerve endings, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 You know, isn't it weird that Sarah's head looks like it's so painful when she would headbutt everything?

Speaker 1 And it was like, oh, she's gonna die.

Speaker 2 Like, it's bad. Like, yeah.
But those guys were just like, this is a Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they chased.

Speaker 1 they chase they chase those guys off no nerve endings on those dudes

Speaker 1 they see Sharptooth like climbing a mountain and they make a plan to kill him

Speaker 1 I was like this is kind of shocking our main characters baby dinosaurs are making a plan to kill their enemy they're hunting him they like revenge yeah I know like it's I don't think they intend for it to be so dark but it kind of feels dark.

Speaker 2 They're like okay, well, you can think about it in a couple of ways. You can think about it as revenge, or you could think about it as eliminating a threat that is clearly picking off, like their

Speaker 2 plant-eating, like

Speaker 2 brethren, you know? They got to eliminate the threat for the sake of everybody. But yeah, it does seem like revenge.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So the xenophobia

Speaker 4 is brought back if the person is eating you. Yeah.
I guess. Or the dino.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just saying.

Speaker 4 We're all learning a little bit. No, it's conditional.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 This equality.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Hashtag not all the shark tooth.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 You know, but this one gotta go. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's land before time too when they have chomper, the little, the little

Speaker 3 T-Rex who they, you know, like, it's that, uh, like, the, you know, we're friends, but we're not edible or whatever is the song in that one.

Speaker 1 Do you think there's kind of like a songs in the next movie?

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's more, there's like songs and singing in all of them and everything.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, because yeah, three has songs. I thought I was imagining that.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 do you think there's kind of like a vegetarian message in these movies or no?

Speaker 1 Well, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe this is a, this is like a, you know, vegan,

Speaker 1 you know, vegan adjit prop could be.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because like I think Lion King, because I did hear Littlefoot's mom, or no, the old man with the eyebrows say like, she's entered the cycle of life, or whatever.

Speaker 2 And I was like, right, oh, Lion King, you stole it.

Speaker 1 I get it.

Speaker 2 But yeah, Lion King is like, oh, we just stole a bunch of shit. We're at the top of the food chain.
Here's all these antelopes bowing to my son who will slaughter their family one day,

Speaker 2 which is like, what?

Speaker 2 But yeah, they just went ahead and went. That's the way it is.
But this movie was just like, yo, like, predator bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, at least they did that. That's true.
Yeah, that's true. You're eating someone's mom if you're eating meat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Meat is a mom.

Speaker 1 What is meat if not a mom?

Speaker 4 Oh, my goodness. Gotta reconsider everything.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 they make this plan to kill Sharp to they do it. They like he, they, you know, trick him into going in the water and they drop a big rock on him.

Speaker 1 We think Petri kind of goes over the cliff when they're doing the rock. We think Petrie's dead for a long time.

Speaker 2 Ducky does an amazing speech.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ducky's great here.

Speaker 1 But it turns out he's alive and he kind of can sort of fly now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They all follow a cloud that looks like Littlefoot's mom into

Speaker 1 the great fucking valley. Damn.
And

Speaker 1 they get there. All of their parents are just there.
It just worked perfectly.

Speaker 2 Well, not Littlefoot's mom, but the grandparents lived wild.

Speaker 2 Also, what happened to his dad?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't know that what happened to littlefoot's dad so racist that he's not even there yeah

Speaker 1 they had to cut ties he's off at a truck stop looking for elvis somewhere

Speaker 1 i swear he's alive living forever

Speaker 1 so yeah and then there's this part where they where littlefoot remembers every beat of the movie.

Speaker 1 It's just like, this movie is so short, it's not even 70 minutes. And the part of it is the Littlefoot remembering what happened.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's that Diana Ross song, which I'm sure.

Speaker 1 And they play the Diana Ross song. Can we go on?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it's like a montage of everything that happened in the movie. I love it.
Which also, the score is James Horner, who's like...

Speaker 2 He did the Titanic soundtrack, Alien, like all this stuff.

Speaker 2 And it is, the score for this movie is, I'd say, 50% of the reason why I cry in this movie.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's amazing.

Speaker 2 The music is so moving. I love it.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 that's kind of the end of The Land Before.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, kind of is the main word because there's so many sequels.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there's 16 or - right. How many are there? Stephen?

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 1 14 folding up a Blu-ray box though.

Speaker 2 That is a collection.

Speaker 2 There's also a YouTube channel for The Land Before Time, and it has like,

Speaker 2 but it's a TV show, I guess.

Speaker 3 There was a TV show, too, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I'm looking at the YouTube channel, and it's like live right now is eight hours and 26 minutes of the ultimate Sharptooth live stream of TV show episodes.

Speaker 1 Wow. Live stream.
Oh, boy. Yeah, it's happening.
Sharpetooth's just playing Minecraft. Yeah, yeah, just like, yeah.
Dentally saying the R-word. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Classic Sharpto.

Speaker 1 Those streamers. Those streamers always do that.

Speaker 2 The funny thing is, I'm looking at the little baby Sharptooth guy. He looks a lot like the dinosaur from the movie We're Back.

Speaker 1 Oh, totally. Yeah.
Yeah, We're Back is.

Speaker 2 But it's not Don Blues.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 No, yeah, yeah. Just something.
Well, because We're Back does the thing where their eyes turn

Speaker 4 like.

Speaker 1 bad and so then you lose the the whites or the pupils expand so like felt very sad like the sharp tooth from this movie, how are they not tied together?

Speaker 3 I know sharp tooth time traveled to the future.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, shit.
Shared universe.

Speaker 1 I think it should be a shared universe. Agreed.
Couldn't agree more. Well, hey, we're going to rank this movie, but first, we're going to talk about the hunks in the movie.
It's Hunk Watch.

Speaker 2 It's Hunk Watch.

Speaker 1 So, this is maybe the most challenging addition of Hunk Watch we've ever done because most of the characters in this movie are child dinosaurs. This is the most buckable dinosaur? Oh, let's go.

Speaker 1 I think I have, I think I have an answer, and I think we maybe all kind of know what it is. Okay, wise old eyebrows, dinosaur, right?

Speaker 4 Sure, sure. Age-appropriate.

Speaker 1 Age-appropriate.

Speaker 4 Well, let's hope so.

Speaker 2 Also, he's wise, so he probably knows how to put down that thing, you know?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 No one's going to teach him anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's been around the block.

Speaker 4 He'll have some good words of wisdom after,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 1 send you on your way, I guess.

Speaker 4 I want to stand.

Speaker 1 Yep. You know, what we just did was part of the circle of life.

Speaker 4 That's how he gets you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 He makes you think you're a part of something bigger than that.

Speaker 1 He's gotten me into the sack more than once.

Speaker 1 I guess maybe, you know, the Pachycephalosaurus, there's a joke you could make about their heads.

Speaker 2 Wait, which one's that? Oh, those guys that look like

Speaker 2 the uncircumcised heads.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, they do look like uncircumcised.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. It's good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but you're right.

Speaker 4 There's two of them.

Speaker 1 There's two of them. If you're into that, yeah, sure, sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 Also, just the narrator's voice, which I know is the voice of our old wise

Speaker 1 vampire.

Speaker 2 What? Dinosaur.

Speaker 1 Sorry. That'd be a fun twist.
Dinosaur vampires.

Speaker 1 Rock movie. Rock movie voice.
Dinosaur motorcycle.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, but it's like his voice is just, I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's very comforting. I think that the narration was a good choice in casting, I'd say.

Speaker 4 If you like a bad boy, a sharp tooth.

Speaker 1 Sharp tooth.

Speaker 1 Some people like a bad boy who doesn't talk a lot. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Nothing behind those eyes, but lots behind those teeth. A bangy.

Speaker 2 Big boy. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, killed my mom.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. You got mommy issues here?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Solve them for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, hey, it seems like we figured this out.

Speaker 1 And we're going gonna rank the movie on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials when we come back.

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Speaker 1 We're going to rank The Land Before Time on a scale of one to 10 super loud commercials. But first, we want to tell you about our new bonus episode that you can listen to right now.
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Speaker 1 Sierra, do you guys throw down anything cool for TV Chef Fantasy League in terms of bonus stuff? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. We had a chat with Bill Oakley, the

Speaker 4 Gordon Ramsey of Fast Food. Very exciting.

Speaker 1 My My heroes, former Simpsons writer, funny dude. Oh.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 TV Legend. TV Legend.

Speaker 4 We interviewed Kameh, who was a MasterChef finalist. Cool.

Speaker 4 So, you know, some good stuff. I think

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Speaker 1 Hey, we're going to rank The Lamb Before Time on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials because that's what you got to pay to watch it.

Speaker 1 Sierra, you're our guest. Do you want to rank this one to 10?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Gosh, I think it's just such a big cultural thing for me. And then at the same time, like I know it's, it's like still

Speaker 4 has its niche sort of audience. So I'm kind of, I think I'm going to say eight.

Speaker 1 Great. It's a solid score.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Emily, thoughts?

Speaker 2 I loved watching. I'm so glad we picked this movie.
I loved watching it again.

Speaker 2 I was very impressed with like the educational aspect of it and how moving it was and the friendship stuff. I'm giving it a tippy 10, you guys.

Speaker 1 Wow. I love this movie.
I think that is

Speaker 1 absolutely warranted.

Speaker 2 Yes, put it in the Library of Congress or wherever you put stuff that should be around forever.

Speaker 1 The Library of Congress. I think you got that.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Ripley's, believe it or not.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck things are. Wherever you are.
Put it in for there.

Speaker 2 Wherever Elvis is, put it with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 I'm going to say I think this is a kid's movie nine. I think this is a really beautiful movie.

Speaker 1 I'm sure we'll watch them all at some point. I think this is Don Bluth's best movie.
I think this is probably like his masterpiece.

Speaker 1 I think like the Don Bluth, I think the fact that it is short and simple, like, plays to his strengths.

Speaker 2 So short.

Speaker 1 Some of those other movies. are a little wonky because they just go off the rails, you know, and you're like, what's happening in this? Yeah.
But this is like, it's just the perfect length.

Speaker 1 It's a perfect little story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that hand-drawn animation looks fucking still cool as shit in 2025. Yeah, beautiful music, great performances.
Yeah, I think this is a total classic.

Speaker 1 And I think that, yeah, if you have kids who love dinosaurs, like definitely put this on for them. I can't imagine they wouldn't love this.

Speaker 1 Stephen Ray Morris, let's let you weigh in. I mean, one to ten.
It's a land before time. This is your area of expertise.

Speaker 3 I mean, other than Jurassic Park, I think it's the best dinosaur movie. And I think as far as kids' movies go, yeah, I'm going to give it a 10 like you, Emily.
I think

Speaker 3 it's cool to see people feeling this way about dinosaurs. It almost like connects us to our childhood self in a way that I really love.

Speaker 3 And yeah, I think to your point, Jordan, there's like with Don Bluth, like this is such a short movie because they ended up cutting out like almost 20 minutes of footage

Speaker 3 because they said it was too scary. Like Steven Spielberg at the time.
So they were watching it as they were editing. And so they cut all this stuff out.

Speaker 3 But I kind of think it just makes it, yeah, like you're saying, that it's kind of this tight-constructed thing that

Speaker 3 never really kind of, yeah, because there was basically a plot where like Littlefoot leaves them,

Speaker 3 like, leaves all of his friends, goes to the valley, and then comes back and then kills Sharptooth and like just makes it more complicated.

Speaker 3 But I think in a way, Spielberg probably knew what we wanted.

Speaker 2 I think them sticking together is a better choice. Yeah, yeah.
Gets the point across. Leaders don't abandon their troops.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you gotta save that valley for the end dude well he was also saving it he had a whole scene where there was green jello that like shook a little bit and he was like i'm gonna i i don't like that but i'm gonna save it i'm gonna save it yeah this is good for something

Speaker 1 he's like i'm a clever girl

Speaker 1 um well yeah that's that's land of our time we kind of loved it uh let's do a little plug-in sierra tell us tell us again about tv chef fantasy League and anything else you want to talk about.

Speaker 4 Yes. Check out my podcast, TV Chef Fantasy League.
You know, we come out with new episodes on Wednesdays, maximumfun.org, and anywhere you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 4 And, oh, speaking of free with ads, I guess my

Speaker 4 special, which came out last year,

Speaker 4 is now on YouTube, free with ads.

Speaker 4 It's called Funt, F-U-N-T.

Speaker 4 And it's probably easiest to find by just looking up my name. Sierra Cato would love for you to watch it free with ads.

Speaker 1 If you watch the special and listen very closely, you might hear a certain me laughing in the background because I was at the taping and it was hilarious. I can say I saw it live.

Speaker 1 It's totally a hilarious special. And yeah, I've definitely seen it pop up with so many people.
I know it's going to go on my TV right now.

Speaker 1 It's great.

Speaker 1 I saw it on a plane once. I saw it on the menu of a plane.

Speaker 4 It is. Yeah, yeah.
It was on United for a bit. I think it is now off, but who knows? you know maybe it got stuck

Speaker 2 but i appreciate you looking out god damn a whole hour you're a badass

Speaker 4 it's what yeah you know it was it was it's

Speaker 4 it's fine well watch it yeah

Speaker 4 you know i did my best i did my best

Speaker 1 i'm just selling it

Speaker 1 steve ray morris thank you so much for filling in for the vacationing matt lieb um tell us about your your dynopod and anything else.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, Sea Jurassic, right? It's kind of just started off as Jurassic Park, but at this point I can connect it to anything.

Speaker 3 Margaret Cho recently was on and we talked about movies that made us queer. Obviously, Jeff Goldblum, you know, Lord Dern's outfit, big part of it for me.

Speaker 3 We also

Speaker 3 recently had a psychologist on to talk about all the divorce and all the Jurassic Park movies. So, you know, and then, yeah, I interviewed this screenwriter of Land Before Times, Stu Krieger on.

Speaker 3 So, kind of is just like a mix of whatever related that I want to talk about. But, yeah, see Jurassic Writes.

Speaker 2 So, also, if you talk about Jeff Goldblum, he just came out with a cologne and he did a video for it. And it's just a lot of him.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, like it's just a lot of that.

Speaker 2 But it looks like it smells amazing, and I'm buying it.

Speaker 1 I need to see this immediately.

Speaker 3 Thank you for telling me that.

Speaker 1 No problem.

Speaker 1 Emily, you got anything coming up?

Speaker 2 You know what? I just want to savor this moment with all of you and fuck my life. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You too.

Speaker 2 Who cares what I'm doing?

Speaker 1 I'm doing this. Yeah, this is it.

Speaker 1 Listen to this. Again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll give a little

Speaker 1 dinosaur adjacent plug.

Speaker 1 The Godzilla anthology that I wrote a story for, Godzilla versus Los Angeles, is in comic bookstores now.

Speaker 1 You've heard me gabbing about it on this show, but it is a cool anthology comic about what happens when Godzilla trashes LA. I did a story with a great artist named Nicole Goo.

Speaker 1 We did a story about Godzilla smashing the Universal Studios tram.

Speaker 1 And it's from the perspective of the tram driver. And yeah, it's in comic book stores now, and

Speaker 1 it's a wildfire charity relief project. Oh, that's amazing.
Yeah, it's all the money from this thing goes to wildfire relief. And yeah, and it's really great.

Speaker 1 I got to see it for the first time today, and it's really, really gorgeous.

Speaker 1 Everybody just really cooked making this thing. So please go to your local comic shop and check out Godzilla versus Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 Jordan, when are they going to put him in the tar pits?

Speaker 1 Oh, man. You know,

Speaker 1 hopefully they'll do another one. Hopefully, they'll do another one.

Speaker 1 Because that kind of needs to happen. But he does destroy a lot of great LA landmarks.
Okay, cool. So

Speaker 1 hopefully he gets to one of your favorites.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 that's it. Thank you again, Sierra, for being here.
So much fun.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 Tune in next week when our movie will be Varsity Blues.

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