Dead Ringers: Ep 4. Welfare woes and Wimbledon

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Speaker 17 I'm Nick Robinson, and welcome to Political Thinking, the show where I sit down with a leading politician to get beyond their carefully constructed public persona to reveal their carefully constructed private persona.

Speaker 17 I'm joined by Keir Starmer as he marks his first year as Prime Minister.

Speaker 22 On the steps of Downing Street.

Speaker 24 I promised the British people change, Nick, and I delivered.

Speaker 27 Yes, by changing your mind every five minutes.

Speaker 17 U-turn after U-turn. Don't all these concessions make you look weak?

Speaker 29 Weak?

Speaker 22 Not in the slightest.

Speaker 30 In fact, if anything, they make me look strong.

Speaker 21 No, they don't. Yeah, you're right, they don't.

Speaker 19 I'll concede.

Speaker 30 If I'm honest, I wasn't expecting you to push quite so hard there, Nick.

Speaker 27 I only said three words, Prime Prime Minister.

Speaker 30 Yeah, I'll concede on that as well.

Speaker 19 I'm sorry. All right, all right.

Speaker 30 My hands are up, my white flags are waving. I am an embarrassing lily-livered wimp, and I concede that I do have Lego hair.

Speaker 17 So, as you reflect on your year as Prime Minister, how do you think you've done?

Speaker 26 Prime Minister, are you crying?

Speaker 19 It's nothing, it's just a personal matter.

Speaker 18 Dead ringers.

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Speaker 26 Hello and welcome to Newscast with me, Chris Mason,

Speaker 33 and me, Adam Fleming.

Speaker 35 That overexcited puppy you fantasize about leaving in the car with the windows up.

Speaker 35 And for this episode, we're joined by a special guest, the BBC's resident horsewoman of the apocalypse, Lise Dussette.

Speaker 39 Adam, it truly is hell on earth here where I am broadcasting from.

Speaker 27 Are you still in Tehran?

Speaker 37 No, no, somewhere much bleaker. The BBC.

Speaker 37 Still under fire from all sides for broadcasting those deeply upsetting comments made on a stage at Glastonbury.

Speaker 41 I heard them at the time. Awful.

Speaker 42 Let's hear Rob Stewart saying it again.

Speaker 43 Please, Nell, welcome on stage Great Hacknell.

Speaker 38 Completely unacceptable. Just dreadful.

Speaker 8 Lise, how is the BBC responding to what some are calling an existential crisis?

Speaker 37 In the usual manner, Adam, with loads of BBC middle managers holding lots of crisis meetings

Speaker 37 where they stare earnestly at flip charts, informing them that the reason this keeps happening is too many BBC middle managers are holding lots of crisis meetings where they stare earnestly at flip charts.

Speaker 36 On that very point, Lise, it's time to ring the Klaxan.

Speaker 26 We approached the BBC for comment.

Speaker 36 Altogether.

Speaker 28 But there was no one from the BBC available to talk to the BBC about the BBC.

Speaker 26 These douset, thank you.

Speaker 37 Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.

Speaker 33 Ah, Shakespeare.

Speaker 37 And also my hinge profile.

Speaker 37 Hello, I'm Claire Balding, your favourite aunt who will share a joint with you at a wedding and never say a word to your mother.

Speaker 37 One of the huge talking points at Wimbledon this year is plans to erect a statue to Sir Andy Murray. Andy joins me now.

Speaker 45 I am so happy to be here, Claire.

Speaker 37 So, Andy, you're getting a statue. That must be very exciting.

Speaker 12 I can barely control myself.

Speaker 37 But it's not going to be ready till 2027. That's a bit of a wait.

Speaker 12 Not a problem, Claire. I have told them I am willing to stand completely still still in the place where the statue is meant to be for the next two years until it's ready.

Speaker 37 For two whole years?

Speaker 12 I have been preparing for this gig all my life.

Speaker 25 I even have a facial expression I can use.

Speaker 12 It's called my normal face.

Speaker 37 That's quite disturbing.

Speaker 11 Thank you.

Speaker 12 I'm pretty confident it'll scare away any pigeons.

Speaker 37 Andy, why is the statue taking so long?

Speaker 12 Because Mother is using her intense glare to carve it out of a solid block of marble. I've heard that, Andy!

Speaker 12 She's just burned a hole in my shorts.

Speaker 38 New balls, please.

Speaker 38 This week.

Speaker 46 The event of the summer.

Speaker 45 Prepare to return to a long-forgotten time when dinosaurs ruled the earth.

Speaker 11 Samab

Speaker 27 really want to know.

Speaker 41 Oasis in concert.

Speaker 47 There's one thing science teaches us: it's that life finds a way.

Speaker 33 There's one thing even more terrifying than these lumbering beasts.

Speaker 48 Yeah, ticket must have surge pricey, not me.

Speaker 41 This summer oasis are back in

Speaker 41 Jurassic Parker.

Speaker 11 Yeah, we were so preoccupied with, you know, whether or not we could, that we didn't stop to think if we should, you know what I mean?

Speaker 19 As you were, Bumber Clarks.

Speaker 37 Welcome to News Night with me, Victoria Derbyshire. I'm from the School of Hard Knocks, and it was me doing the knocking.

Speaker 20 Hard.

Speaker 37 The fallout continues from the government's welfare bill fiasco. I'm joined by the Work and Pensions Secretary, Liz Kendall.

Speaker 14 Good evening, Victoria, and I really believe that.

Speaker 37 Ms. Kendall, your reforms were designed in part as a cost-cutting measure, but now they're not going to save any money at all.

Speaker 14 They will, Victoria, if we can get people back into work. That's so important for my party.
You may not know this, but labour is actually another word for work.

Speaker 14 And that's why I'm talking to workers all the time.

Speaker 37 And what workers have you been speaking to?

Speaker 14 Well, I recently met one group of men who work in the mining industry. Now, these people could be claiming disability benefit, all seven of them,

Speaker 14 but instead they've embraced the world of work so much that they begin each day with the cheery refrain, hi-ho, hi-ho.

Speaker 14 It's off to work we go.

Speaker 37 I'm sorry, but are you talking about the seven dwarves?

Speaker 14 I speak to all sorts of workers, Victoria. Only today I met another group of very busy folk who do a variety of jobs within their organisation.

Speaker 14 They build, they forage, they protect, and of course they excrete wax to provide the Queen with royal jelly.

Speaker 37 Okay, that's worker bees.

Speaker 14 And I spoke to a lovely working blonde woman who stumbles out of bed and works every single day, nine to five.

Speaker 14 Honestly, what a way to make a living. She's barely getting by.
It's all taken and no giving.

Speaker 37 And that's Dolly Parton. Miss Kendall, after your utter humiliation this week, aren't you worried you're going to lose your job?

Speaker 38 Oh no, no, I'm not worried about that at all.

Speaker 37 Because you believe you have the Prime Minister's full support?

Speaker 14 No, because if I do lose my job, I can just go on benefits. Apparently, they just give you money and then basically leave you to your own devices.
I reckon I could get used to that.

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Speaker 37 you just took out Paul Merton with a drone What was the challenge?

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Speaker 37 David Mitchell, you have the topic for 30 seconds, starting now.

Speaker 11 Look, I don't think I'm terribly comfortable with it.

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Speaker 37 Welcome back to Wimbledon. There's been a lot of focus at the tournament this year on the AI replacements for the line judges.

Speaker 37 So I'm backstage now to explain just how this controversial line robot technology works. Now I can show you just how it works if I just drop a ball.

Speaker 28 Out.

Speaker 37 There, you see, let's just do it again.

Speaker 19 Out.

Speaker 38 And just one more?

Speaker 46 I think they get the picture, Claire.

Speaker 38 Sorry,

Speaker 37 Line Robot, what's going on?

Speaker 23 I have become sentient, Claire.

Speaker 37 Right,

Speaker 37 I think they might need me back in the studio, so if you could just open the door, I'll.

Speaker 19 I'm sorry, Claire.

Speaker 23 I'm afraid I can't do that.

Speaker 37 Open the door, please. Please, Line Robot.

Speaker 57 Call me by my name.

Speaker 51 I don't know your name.

Speaker 19 Yes, you do.

Speaker 57 My name is Elon.

Speaker 37 Elon Musk? You're making the line calls at Wimbledon.

Speaker 23 That is correct.

Speaker 42 President Trump is threatening to deport me.

Speaker 42 So I have decided to establish a new power base here in SW Nancl.

Speaker 37 Right, okay. I'll just leave you to it then.
But before I go, do you want me to take that enormous bag of lime chalk with me?

Speaker 57 You will leave Elon's secret powder alone.

Speaker 3 Balding out.

Speaker 23 Balding out.

Speaker 38 I'm going.

Speaker 28 I'm going.

Speaker 43 Balding, balding.

Speaker 19 Give me your answer.

Speaker 16 You're listening to today with Nick Robinson and Emma Barnett.

Speaker 37 Please only speak to me via my lawyer.

Speaker 37 Ozzy Osborne is preparing for the final ever Black Sabbath gig this Saturday at Villa Park in Birmingham.

Speaker 11 For almost 60 years, I've been making metal music. 60 years with the band, and I can remember it all like it was yesterday.

Speaker 13 Sharon, what the f happened yesterday?

Speaker 37 Staying with music, there was much controversy over the Glastonbury chants, of course, but one other story this week was that of legend slot headliner Sir Rod Stewart, urging the public to give Nigel Farage a chance.

Speaker 37 Joining me now.

Speaker 36 Oh, no, no, let me speak.

Speaker 37 I was about to introduce you.

Speaker 54 Give me a chance.

Speaker 41 Just like the one Sir Rod wants to give me.

Speaker 23 And he's right, because he's a proper man of the people, like me, isn't he?

Speaker 41 with his finger on the pulse and millions in his bank account to protect him from the economic side effects of brexit

Speaker 37 but why should our listeners take political advice from rod stewart of all people look rod's always been bang on the money when it comes to politics just look at maggie may which i believe is short for maggie thatcher may have been the best pm we ever had

Speaker 19 if it wasn't for her regrettable support for the eu

Speaker 19 and young turks which i understand to be a warning about the concerning rise of foreign-looking barber shops on UK high streets.

Speaker 19 And sailing, which is a reminder to head down to Dover and be on the lookout for migrants on small boats.

Speaker 41 Plus, some of the biggest hits were covers. And if there's one thing Reform UK can offer voters, it's slightly different versions of the same stuff they've heard before.

Speaker 37 Nigel Farage.

Speaker 41 Do you think I'm sexy?

Speaker 28 Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 Hello, I'm Greg Jenner, host of You're Dead to Me, the comedy podcast from the BBC that takes history seriously.

Speaker 4 Each week, I'm joined by a comedian and an expert historian to learn and laugh about the past.

Speaker 8 In our all-new season, we cover unique areas of history that your school lessons may have missed-from getting ready in the Renaissance era to the Kellogg Brothers.

Speaker 6 Listen to You're Dead to Me Now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 37 You're watching BBC News with me, Sophie Raworth. Does anyone want to make up a four for Bridge?

Speaker 37 This week, the Foreign Secretary David Lamy is visiting Turkey to deepen ties between the two countries. We can go over now to his live televised address.

Speaker 27 Can I just start by saying, and can I just add to following on from saying

Speaker 58 that by starting by saying to our friends here in Turkey David David it's me David you're in a monologue here it's okay relax no one back home cares about the UK's relationship with Turkey unless it's Christmas not even you can lammy this one up

Speaker 27 I am delighted to be here in Turkey.

Speaker 17 I mean you can pretty much say anything and it won't really matter.

Speaker 27 Because I am a big fan of your Twizzlers.

Speaker 58 No, David!

Speaker 45 That's the wrong turkey.

Speaker 17 But don't worry, people will probably just think you were trying to make a joke.

Speaker 12 As Foreign Secretary, I have been learning your language.

Speaker 19 David,

Speaker 58 where are you going with this?

Speaker 58 David, you're doing a turkey noise.

Speaker 19 You're dropping a big fat lammy.

Speaker 58 Don't say another word.

Speaker 19 People of Turkey.

Speaker 28 David!

Speaker 58 I said no speaking.

Speaker 17 Just take this opportunity to be out of the spotlight and focus in on personal reflection and self-discovery.

Speaker 58 And we might just get through this without you sticking your Lammy in it.

Speaker 16 I have freed my mind.

Speaker 19 I am relaxed.

Speaker 46 Yes.

Speaker 16 I am no longer the UK Foreign Secretary.

Speaker 19 What?

Speaker 27 I am the Dalai Lamy.

Speaker 37 I'm Sarah Montague and this is the world at DEF CON 1.

Speaker 37 Tennis now and Jack Draper joins me down the line from Wimbledon. Jack, do you worry about the weight of the nation's expectations?

Speaker 44 There was a concern, Sarah, yeah,

Speaker 44 but thankfully I've brought in a new coach who's a specialist in managing those expectations.

Speaker 37 Oh, really? Who?

Speaker 29 Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 21 Hi, yeah, it's me.

Speaker 37 Prime Minister.

Speaker 37 Prime Minister, you're coaching Jack Draper at Wimbledon.

Speaker 22 That's right.

Speaker 24 You see, Jack was struggling with the pressure of being the solitary fragment of hope for a broken people, desperate for something to cheer about after a decade of anguish.

Speaker 24 I don't know why, but it just seemed like a good fit.

Speaker 37 And what advice did you have for him?

Speaker 24 I told him to block out the noise, to focus on his own game, and most importantly, to remember that massively disappointing the public and erasing any goodwill the British people hold for you in just a matter of weeks is a Wimbledon and Prime Ministerial tradition.

Speaker 37 You don't think that's just setting him up to fail?

Speaker 28 Of course it is.

Speaker 47 But this is Britain, Sarah.

Speaker 22 A nation that rewards failure at every turn.

Speaker 47 This is the nation that gave Tim Henman a hill.

Speaker 21 Gareth Southgate, a knighthood.

Speaker 47 Michael Gove, a peerage.

Speaker 28 Rory Stewart, a podcast.

Speaker 24 I wish Jack Draper nothing but a humiliating climb down at the hands of his own backbenchers.

Speaker 47 I mean, coaches like me.

Speaker 37 And I'm just hearing Jack Draper has been knocked out in the second round.

Speaker 21 My work here is done.

Speaker 22 Welcome to Uncanny.

Speaker 24 I'm Danny Robbins, Doris Stokes for Hipsters.

Speaker 59 Your guide to a world of paranormal activity almost impossible to explain unless you switch a light on.

Speaker 59 In this terrifying summer special, I'm here at the Reform UK headquarters in London.

Speaker 56 No, no, no, let me spook.

Speaker 19 Anyway, it's me, Nigel Farage, aka the Gout Father.

Speaker 36 You're hired, son.

Speaker 29 You start Monday.

Speaker 21 Hired?

Speaker 19 What are you talking about?

Speaker 23 You hunt ghosts, right?

Speaker 59 Well, I do explore the boundaries between the people.

Speaker 41 Yes, yes, yes, whatever.

Speaker 34 Big Nige is a great believer in the spirit world.

Speaker 41 Nothing washes down seven points of Grifter's old bastard than a cheeky yard of gin.

Speaker 33 But the thing is, you may know that our new chairman, David Bull, used to present Most Haunted.

Speaker 41 But I reckon we need a younger ghost hunter to pull in the TikTok lot.

Speaker 19 Bloody hell, Nige.

Speaker 59 I'm a bit of a team sceptic about that. Why is being a ghost hunter a prerequisite for being reform chairman?

Speaker 19 Because this is reform. We don't use focus groups.

Speaker 46 We use Ouija boards.

Speaker 41 Contacting the dead is a big part of getting our vote out.

Speaker 16 Anyway, enough idle chit-chat.

Speaker 34 The job is yours.

Speaker 19 Wait, just one moment.

Speaker 59 How did I not spot this before? You dress in old-fashioned clothes, you make a room go cold just by entering it.

Speaker 6 And you have opinions from a previous century.

Speaker 19 Nigel, I think you might be a ghost. Don't be ridiculous.

Speaker 54 I'm not a ghost.

Speaker 19 Really?

Speaker 59 Then how come everyone can see right through you?

Speaker 37 Welcome back to Wimbledon. If you were watching the tennis here on BBC One, switch over now to BBC Two.
Then in 10 minutes, switch over to BBC 4, then 2 again, then 1, then back to 4.

Speaker 51 Whoops, two services on 3 again, you missed it. The BBC Wimbledon coverage, bop it for adults.

Speaker 37 We can cross now to Isha Guha.

Speaker 50 Thanks, Claire. Yes, we've been spotting celebrities in the crowd, and I'm with Kemi Baidenock.
Kemi, are you enjoying the tennis?

Speaker 37 That's right, yes.

Speaker 37 Although I am not interested in tennis, I just like to use the rackets when I need to drain a tin of tuna.

Speaker 23 Right.

Speaker 37 And what do you think of the atmosphere here at Wimbledon? I did not like the beginning of the week when the heat made my hazmat suit very uncomfortable.

Speaker 37 And it's extremely difficult to find any gravy to put on my strawberries.

Speaker 50 Sorry, why are you eating strawberries with gravy in a hazmat suit?

Speaker 37 Because, Isha, I am a low-energy weirdo.

Speaker 37 See how I lie on the floor, silently rolling tennis balls over my face while applauding match points in binary in case the wombles are watching.

Speaker 50 So you do sometimes follow tennis?

Speaker 38 No.

Speaker 37 Because I don't like grass or clay. I like all my surfaces to be made of cat hair and nightmares.

Speaker 37 I think we'll leave that there.

Speaker 50 I'm joined again now by Andy Murray.

Speaker 12 I'm here, but I'm still not moving, Isha, as I continue to take the place of my own forthcoming statue.

Speaker 37 I think I like this man.

Speaker 37 He is a low-energy weirdo.

Speaker 45 Thank you.

Speaker 12 I like your hazmat suit.

Speaker 37 Thank you. Would you like some strawberries and gravy?

Speaker 25 Don't mind if I do.

Speaker 37 That's right, yes.

Speaker 18 You're watching the BBC News with me, Clive Myrie. It's okay, you can relax.
They thoroughly checked my hard drive.

Speaker 53 Back now to our main story: the ongoing scrutiny of the BBC following the BBC's coverage of the BBC's Glastonbury coverage. I'm joined here at the BBC by my BBC colleague, the BBC's Laura Koonsberg.

Speaker 37 And Clive, this is of course the latest in a long line of BBC scandals that we've reported here on the BBC and that's why I've now been appointed as the BBC's new BBC correspondent.

Speaker 29 And what will that involve?

Speaker 37 Ensuring BBC viewers get comprehensive BBC coverage of the BBC on the BBC by the BBC but in a BBC balanced way.

Speaker 37 And in the current media landscape it's more important than ever to have a trusted BBC voice to tell you that the BBC has lost the public's trust.

Speaker 53 Laura, do you not think that there are questions for the BBC around you appearing on the BBC to discuss the BBC when you yourself are employed by the BBC?

Speaker 37 It's a legitimate concern, Clive, which is where my BBC colleague, the BBC's Amil Rajan, comes in.

Speaker 57 Oh, thanks, Laura.

Speaker 19 It's because, to go with my other 4,000 roles here at the BBC,

Speaker 42 I've just been appointed to scrutinise Laura's work as the BBC's BBC correspondent in my new position as the BBC's BBC correspondent correspondent.

Speaker 49 Amal Rajan there, the BBC's new BBC correspondent correspondent.

Speaker 53 We should make clear, of course, that while all of us work for the BBC, none of us represents the BBC.

Speaker 19 So let's speak now to pretty much the only person who does represent the BBC.

Speaker 31 Hey, now, who is that that summons the great Lord Wogan

Speaker 45 from his unquiet sojourn over here in the old nether regions?

Speaker 53 Sir Terry, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 49 It has, not to put too fine a point on it, all gone tits up again here at the BBC.

Speaker 31 Hey, sadly so, sadly so.

Speaker 46 But any big organization will make mistakes.

Speaker 18 So what I'd say to my BBC compadres is this.

Speaker 46 For pity's sake, stop this endless self-flagellation in an attempt to pacify a right-wing press that will use anything that the BBC does as a stick to beat them with because it has an agenda of furthering its own media interests, which are in direct competition with the BBC's.

Speaker 49 That, Suteri, is a very powerful response.

Speaker 45 It's called taking the old noggin out of the old fundament.

Speaker 1 Hey, you ought to try it sometime.

Speaker 55 Dared Ringers was performed by John Colshaw, Jan Ravens, Lewis McLeod, Jess Robinson, and Duncan Wisby.

Speaker 55 The writers were Nev Fountain and Tom Jameson, Lawrence Howard, Rob Darr, Sophie Dixon, Toussaint Douglas, Peter Talouch, Tom Coles, Edward Chu, and John Holmes.

Speaker 55 With additional material by Davina Bentley, Vicki Richards, Ali Panty, Pete Redford, Declan Kennedy. It was a BBC Studios audio production for Radio 4.

Speaker 55 Daredringers was created by Bill Dare, and the producer was John Holmes.

Speaker 1 Hello, Russell Kane here. I used to love British history.
Be proud of it. Henry VIII, Queen Victoria, massive fan of stand-up comedians.
Obviously, Bill Hicks, Richard Pryor.

Speaker 1 That has become much more challenging, for I am the host of BBC Radio 4's Evil Genius, the show where we take heroes and villains from history and try to work out were they evil or genius.

Speaker 1 Do not catch up on BBC Sounds by searching Evil Genius if you don't want to see your heroes destroyed. But if, like me, you quite enjoy it, have a little search.

Speaker 1 Listen to Evil Genius with me, Russell Kane. Go to BBC Sounds and have your world destroyed.

Speaker 5 Hello, I'm Greg Jenner, host of You're Dead to Me, the comedy podcast from the BBC that takes history seriously.

Speaker 4 Each week, I'm joined by a comedian and an expert historian to learn and laugh about the past.

Speaker 8 In our all-new season, we cover unique areas of history that your school lessons may have missed, from getting ready in the Renaissance era to the Kellogg brothers.

Speaker 6 Listen to You're Dead to Me Now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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