Twerkin’ on Your Last Nerve with Matt Matthews

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Speaker 2 I'm Josh Peck, and I'm Ben Soffer. And we're the good guys.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of guys out there, and we're the good ones.

Speaker 2 Vasil Morons, welcome back to the Good Guys Podcast. I'm sitting here with Bernie Madoff's money manager.
It's Ben Soffer.

Speaker 6 And you know him, you love him. He's currently on a nationwide comedy tour.
Bougie on a budget, aren't we all?

Speaker 6 let's all give a big good guys welcome to matt matthews matt thank you so much for joining us from birmingham alabama what's it like being in la

Speaker 6 given that la is such a cesspool of hate it's a shithole

Speaker 2 when you come from such a lovely quaint all-american town it's a shithole it's a shithole right tell josh to his face it's a shithole here Say more.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, I don't know how you live here. Okay.
But, you know, I feel the exact same way when I go to New York. Yeah, you hear that.

Speaker 2 You hear that? What?

Speaker 2 I feel the same way. I feel the same way anywhere, anywhere that I have to go with people at all.
I live on 104 acres.

Speaker 2 So, like, you can walk outside just buck naked, you know, and like nobody's going to see you except for your animals. So, like, that's what I don't want people to talk to me.

Speaker 2 We were literally talking, I've been talking about this all because we just did a, I did an interview right before this and we were talking about that.

Speaker 2 And, like, people think that I'm such an extrovert because of social media and because I'm a stand-up comedian and like all these things.

Speaker 2 But in all honesty, like I'm very much an introvert, like I don't like big groups of people. I don't like like, I just want to stay at home.
I don't want, I don't want nobody to bother me. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Let's talk about a hundred. Let's talk about 104 acres.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 When did that happen?

Speaker 2 And how did that happen? Well, I bought my first farm, which is where you see like most of the videos and stuff. It's 11 acres.
I bought that in 2015.

Speaker 2 That was the first place that i ever bought on my own i lived in a trailer park before that so you know we're trailer park hoes and double wide yeah no baby i had a single wife single babe our humble beginnings single wide okay i grew up into projects with an alcoholic mom okay so don't get it twisted and then we we leveled up and my dad got custody of me when i was nine years old and then i moved into a trailer park with him and i was a little redneck trailer park kid with a mullet yeah can you believe that look at me now bitch we know the projects like i growing up in new york the projects were these giant, they are these gigantic brick buildings, you know, 35 floors, all very

Speaker 2 no, we didn't have that. Yeah, what is Alabama project like? Government housing for us was they were shooting everybody outside.
We had like maybe three floors.

Speaker 2 We had like a little communal laundry mat in the middle. And my mom was like a psychopath.
And so she would like yell out the window while they were shooting each other.

Speaker 2 They're like, I got a baby in here trying to sleep. And I'm like, this is it.
This is over for us.

Speaker 2 Here we go because this bitch is about to get us killed. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it was a struggle, you know, and this is what my first, my actual, my first, my first tour that we just finished, we just wrapped my special and we filmed my special in Birmingham.

Speaker 2 And this was kind of what my first show was, was about my life kind of growing up with an alcoholic mom and in government housing and moving to the Trailer Parks and, you know, learning to break cycles.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I grew up with very. alcoholic and addicts in my family.

Speaker 2 And I knew that statistically I should be an alcoholic or I should be an addict like the rest of my family because kids perpetuate this shit that they see, right? Sure.

Speaker 2 And so I made a promise to myself at a very early age to break that cycle and break that

Speaker 2 string of addiction and be successful for myself. And I always had a mouth on me, you know, so I was like, let's be a comedian.
And it worked.

Speaker 2 And was it ever like, I grew up differently, but in New York with, you know, extremely humble mean single mom in 12 step. So there's some similarities.

Speaker 2 And we would kind of vacillate between like, if my mom was having a good year, like we were very like, you know, like at the bottom end of middle class. Y'all had good years.
We had good years.

Speaker 2 Oh, boy, you is bougie. You got a nice new pair of Nikes.

Speaker 2 It was like cracked. Let me tell you, my brother was a crackhead and he would take all of my shit and pawn it at the pawn shop for drugs.

Speaker 2 But were there ever moments where it was like, I guess, did you know any different? Like, were there sweet, happy moments in the project? When my mom wasn't drunk. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, and here's the thing, too. Like, this is kind of what I tell people.
Like, I don't, my mom passed away from addiction in in 2007.

Speaker 2 So, like, I, I don't paint the picture of her being this terrible person because she wasn't. Like, she loved me the best way that she knew how.

Speaker 2 She just struggled a lot with mental health and addiction. And she didn't have anybody to help her, you know?

Speaker 2 And so that was like just a big, a big moment for me to realize, like, as a kid, as a young kid, like, you can follow in these footsteps and be just like your mom and just like your brother.

Speaker 2 and just like your sister, or you can be better for yourself. And so that's why I had to make that promise to myself.
Like, so I grew up and I never drank.

Speaker 2 I still don't drink to this day, even though some of these folks make me want to. You know, I never tried drugs.
I never did anything like that because I knew I'm like, look at these hoes over here.

Speaker 2 You know, like they don't have nothing. They don't have anything.
So like, I'm not going to be that. So I just made very conscious efforts not to do those things.
What do you do?

Speaker 2 Do you ever get mad and black out and eat like a hundred Snicker bars? Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 I do have an adult gummy. Okay, so I can fucks with that.
Oh, sorry. Can I cuss on here? Please.
Okay, yes. Oh, because I be cussing.
I got a mouth on me.

Speaker 2 if you did drink what would you drink i don't i mean have you ever seen a ghetto white gay guy after a couple slippery nipples like

Speaker 2 that's the thing is i cannot i want to fight you know like when i drink i'm not a i'm not a happy drunk i'm a mean drunk and so i'll be trying to hit people and you know i just it just doesn't make me feel good It doesn't make me feel good.

Speaker 2 And I don't want to go to jail. I'm too cute to go to jail.
So I just have me a little gummy at night and take my ass to bed.

Speaker 6 And have you always always been this veld? Have you always been this skinny?

Speaker 2 Did this bitch just call me skinny? You're skinny, dild. Oh, my boy.
You are trim. I don't even have my spanks on.

Speaker 2 We have a spank. We're with skims.

Speaker 2 We are a spanks. Let me tell you something.
I wore spanks. on every show that I performed.
I did 120 shows last year. Me too, 120 episode.

Speaker 2 I wore spanks every episode because this bitch commented one time on the internet. I was like, Matt Matthews is fatter in person.
And I was like, so is your mama.

Speaker 6 But have you been fatter than you right now?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, to me, I've always struggled with body image. So like, I've, I've never

Speaker 2 can't relate, bitch.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're looking kind of fauen. Thank you.
You know, like, thank you, dear. I have always struggled with that.
You know, like, I've never felt comfortable in my skin.

Speaker 2 I've never really felt like my body was good enough. You know, I've never, I've never, I used to work out.
I did CrossFit. I did all the things.
And I was still never happy with my body.

Speaker 2 And so before my career as a comedian really took off, I spent years building a career as a photographer. And I was a boudoir photographer.
And I still have that business.

Speaker 2 And I have an associate that shoots. And, you know, we still book clients.

Speaker 2 But being a boudoir photographer was able to really kind of like show me that it doesn't, never going to have the perfect body. You're never going to be where you want to be.

Speaker 2 You're never going to fully love yourself, you know? So it has to be like a, you have to. learn to be comfortable in the skin that you're in.

Speaker 2 You have to learn to love your body and everything that it does for you right now because you're never going to be where you want to be. And so

Speaker 2 I started my, I started this tour that I'm on now and I was like, I'm not wearing spanks anymore on this show. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm never going to be exactly where I want to be. So like, why be uncomfortable?

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Speaker 2 Ben, how are you feeling in your overall body journey?

Speaker 6 I was going to say, as two fat men that were previously much, much fatter, this is the most fat phobic podcast you'll ever be.

Speaker 2 I love that for you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, like we just like, we're Ozempic queens. Like, we love it.
Not Josh. Josh talks about it as if he's on it.
He's not on it.

Speaker 2 I'm not.

Speaker 2 It dropped too late. You know, here's the thing.
I actually talk about this in my show right now. I love it.
You're on Ozempic. I love it.

Speaker 6 I've lost 60 pounds on Ozempic.

Speaker 2 You smoke shit.

Speaker 2 I'm just

Speaker 2 what?

Speaker 2 I love it. I just don't understand.
Do y'all know the side effects of Ozimpic? Happiness. Playing.

Speaker 6 No, no, by the way, there are no, there really are no side effects except for light nausea in the beginning, but if you get through it, it's fine.

Speaker 2 Let me tell y'all something. Pregnancy is a damn side effect.
These bitches out here getting pregnant. I don't fucks with kids.
Right, right. Okay.

Speaker 2 So could you imagine if I'm like, ooh, let me get skinny on these hoes and end up fucking pregnant. Shoot that.
Like, I would trip myself going down the stairs. Yes.

Speaker 2 Or what if Ozimpic makes you hook up with a woman? No, oh, hell no. I've never touched a sea monster.
That's all flavor. I have never touched a sea monster ever.
I'm a platinum stargate.

Speaker 2 I didn't even come out of a vagina.

Speaker 2 I was a C-section. You were the Immaculate Conception.
Truly. I love it.
I don't know how I could get more perfect. Wow.
What was that like coming out in Alabama at whatever age?

Speaker 2 I thought you were going to say, what was it like being a C-Monster? I did, too. I was like, I don't really remember.
I'm like, what the hell kind of a question is that? I don't really remember that.

Speaker 2 I mean, they just cut it open and there I went. Coming out in Alabama, I mean, I wanted to fuck Uncle Jesse on Full House in the fourth grade.
I know him. So, you know,

Speaker 2 yes. We'll FaceTime him.
Hold on. Should we FaceTime John Samos really quick? That was, you know, like, yes, that was.
I got it. I wanted, that was my crush in the fourth grade, you know?

Speaker 2 So, like, you, you know,

Speaker 2 I always tell people, I'm like, straight people didn't choose to be straight. Gay people didn't choose to be gay.
You know, like, you didn't just wake up one day.

Speaker 2 I was like, hmm, I think I'm going to like dick today. Right.

Speaker 2 I think it will make my life harder, you know? Right. I'm actually FaceTiming him right now.
Full disclosure, he is at Disney, Disney World. He's a Disney adult.
Okay. How do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 I don't fuck with that. I don't fuck with kids.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 he went alone.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure who he went with. Of course, he's not picking up.
No,

Speaker 2 I'm just trying to spread that rumor. I'm going to text him right now

Speaker 2 during the podcast. He's going to be like, I am not calling you to talk to some gay comedian.
Are you kidding me? No, he's a fan.

Speaker 2 He eats it up. He loves love.

Speaker 2 So, sorry, we were FaceTiming while you were actually being very personal and vulnerable and beautiful. So you were saying that it's something that you just knew right away.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like I've never been attracted to a woman. I mean, I think women are beautiful.
And like, I wish that I could be attracted to a woman because men ain't shit, you know? Like, men ain't shit.

Speaker 2 Say more. So, you know, I'm like, I'm like,

Speaker 2 just.

Speaker 2 Y'all be really twerking on my fucking nerve is what y'all do, you know? But,

Speaker 2 you know, when you just like the TT, you like the TT. Like, what can you do? Right.
But, and you're married or engaged? Married, yeah. Wow, how long have you been married? 10 years.
Mazaltov.

Speaker 2 Mazzo, Mazzo. And how did you two fuck as Mazzo?

Speaker 6 I was going to say, we're also as fat phobic as we are, we are as Jewish as it gets.

Speaker 2 My Alabama first

Speaker 2 bitch, come on, quit playing with me. Do I look Jewish? Mazzo.
Yeah. Well, there's.

Speaker 6 We say it anyways. We promise you.

Speaker 2 We did yes.

Speaker 6 That bitch has said I look Jewish.

Speaker 2 Look at my nose.

Speaker 2 It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
I am blonde.

Speaker 2 He has a perfect nose and he's as Jewish as it gets. Oh, wow.
He's 25.

Speaker 6 Would you rather me say that you look Aryan from here?

Speaker 2 Is that better? I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 It's the white. It's a white white.
Oh, white, white. Yeah, I am white white.

Speaker 6 It's like Nazi white.

Speaker 2 That's Aryan. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you something, bitch. You're not going to get me canceled.
Okay. I got a whole tour to do, so you're not going to get me canceled.
Baby, I'm not here trying to make my coin.

Speaker 2 You have, what is it, a 50s city tour? Oh, my God. Unbelievable.
That's just the first leg, baby. This is a three-year tour.
It's time. It's time to make the money.
You love money. I do love money.

Speaker 2 I am a money hoe. Me too.
The things I would do for money, you know, like, I mean, it's crazy when you grow up poor and you're like, then you get money. You know, like I grew up real poor.

Speaker 2 Like we drank sugar water and ate mayonnaise sandwiches. Like, cause we ain't had no Kool-Aid.
We couldn't afford the extra 25 cents. So I grew up really poor.

Speaker 2 And then I created a successful business for myself and did pretty decent and did well. I created my my candle line and my clothing line and did really well and like things were good.

Speaker 2 And then I became a performer and I was making a lot of money. And I'm like, okay, Beach has got money now.
You know, we knew money over here. Okay.
We know old money hoes. We new money hoes.

Speaker 2 And so it becomes a thing of like,

Speaker 2 it's still a scary mentality because I still in the back of my mind am always terrified of being poor again.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm always like, if I don't sell enough tickets, if my social media is not performing well, or if, you know, something's going wrong, it gets so mentally taxing of my career's over.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? And I think that is something that I've been like really struck.

Speaker 2 And I actually posted this on my Instagram yesterday, that like mental health is so important and it's swept under the rug so much.

Speaker 2 And I'm not really a person that has struggled with depression or things like that, but like my life lately has just been very overwhelming and I'm very much an overthinker and like I worry about everything and anxiety and it's kind of like just taken over lately.

Speaker 2 And I've gotten to the point where I'm like, I can't worry about how many fucking views an Instagram reel is getting.

Speaker 2 Like, I can't worry about like stupid things like that, thinking that my career is over because I didn't have a million people watch my shit. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Does that get to you if somebody misses and performs? Yeah, because I'm thinking like they hate me. Right.
It's in the back of my head that people hate me. They don't love me anymore.

Speaker 2 They don't, they don't. I've had a peak.
Yeah, it's the end. Like, and it's wild because my very first tour, this is my second tour.
My very first tour, first time ever.

Speaker 2 Like, no, I never opened for anybody. I opened for two comics in my town two times and that was it.

Speaker 2 And then I signed with an agent and I did my first tour, first headlining tour, 120 cities, 150,000 tickets sold in the first year.

Speaker 2 And we wrapped that tour, filmed my special. I signed with CAA.
I signed a three-year tour deal with Live Nation, which is the tour that I'm on now.

Speaker 2 And it's like, Bitch, you're doing, you're out here working. You're doing stuff.
You're never going to be poor again, you know?

Speaker 2 And it's like, you have to just change change your mindset to realize that like, you're never going to go backwards if you don't allow yourself to go backwards, but you have to do it in a healthy and a positive mindset or you will fuck your shit up.

Speaker 2 And if you fuck your shit up, then you do go backwards. You know, so it's like continuing to be positive and like putting out.

Speaker 2 I'm a big believer in manifestation and like putting negative, but if you put negative shit out, negative shit happens.

Speaker 2 Speak on it, Benjamin.

Speaker 2 Speak on it, Benjamin. You put positive shit out and positive shit comes.
Yeah. Man, manifest.

Speaker 6 We We talk about it all the time. And I'm just fascinated at your sort of arc from entrepreneur into sort of being

Speaker 6 this comic. And I can certainly relate to that.
What do you prefer? Do you like building businesses and being in the background?

Speaker 6 Or do you prefer this version of yourself where you are the business and you're peddling yourself?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So my entire life, I grew up wanting to be a performer.
Like, that's what I wanted to do as a young kid.

Speaker 2 That's how I knew I was gay because I would perform for my teddy bears and act like I was Britney Spears. You know, I'm like, oh, yeah.
And

Speaker 2 I would have thought it was the loving men.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, that wasn't that an indicator. Sure.
But maybe when you take them glad, them glad trash bags and you wrap them around your legs like they are. You're Britney Spears jeans.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're Britney Spears leather pants. Oh, yes.
Like, don't play with me. What Britney era are we talking? Like,

Speaker 2 Britney. Oops.
I did it again. Maybe one more time.
Yeah. Yes.
Not pre-toxic. Yeah.
Oh, before all that. Dating Justin.
Yes. Gotcha.
That was my, that was my girl. I'm in.

Speaker 2 I mean, that was, I'm, I'm still a Britney. I'm still staying in with Britney.
I think you could save her. I think I could.
I think we would be best friends.

Speaker 2 And I feel like I could, I could like, because, you know, I'm like, I'm a 90s kid, you know? So like that is, I'm stuck in the 90s, like truly. Like every, always, this is so bad.

Speaker 2 Every year for my birthday for the last four years, I rent out the skating rink. Like, cause it still looks like the 90s.
It's like a 90s time capsule.

Speaker 2 And so we rent it out and like just me and my friends we go and we skate and we dress up like something from the 90s and we have just 90s playlist cute oh my gosh it's just the most fun ever like this all the music that i listen to like today it's it's out what's your favorite what's your favorite music what's your favorite music like just if i'm just driving down the road yeah right now or like just totally in general because i'm curious because i'm fucking chapel rolling has me in a death death grip Really?

Speaker 2 Like, I'm obsessed. And I'm like, I am a grown-ass man.
Why am I listening to a 20-year-old lesbian?

Speaker 6 And what are we listening to at your Roller Rink birthday party?

Speaker 2 Oh, TLC. Yes.
T-Boss.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 well, Lisa. Let me tell you something.
I have a chicken named Left Eye. I love that.
You said

Speaker 2 in Memorial. In Memorial.
Yeah. That's a living movie.
I have a Mary Kate and Ashley. I have a Drake and Josh.

Speaker 2 We have a Zach and Cody.

Speaker 2 Who's that?

Speaker 2 I don't know why I brought it up. I did a movie with Mary Kate Olson, and she was everything I wanted her to be.

Speaker 2 You You know,

Speaker 2 she was wonderful. Because, you know, they say don't ever meet your heroes because they're usually dickholes.
Meet the Olsons.

Speaker 2 And like, when I met Jewel, I was thinking, you know, like we had, I was literally talking to my publicist about this on the way over here.

Speaker 2 I was like, it's funny when you grow up idolizing somebody and thinking they're so great and like loving them, being such a fan. And then your career makes you one of their peers.

Speaker 2 You know, like that's a weird thing.

Speaker 2 You know, I grew up loving Jewel and then I, then we were both in the entertainment industry so our paths crossed and we just clicked yes and so now it's like i'm jewel's friend you know which is a weird thing because you're like you grew up loving that person and i remember meeting her i was thinking like i just hope she's not a bitch like i hope you know and like we just it immediately like she's as unhinged as i am so it just like it clicked and i think people don't realize that celebrities are just real people you know like but sometimes they're sometimes they're cunts oh sometimes they're they are the worst

Speaker 6 Josh, who's your least favorite celebrity?

Speaker 2 Steven Seagal told me to go away when I was 12. That's an easy one.
But my least favorite celebrity currently, I don't know.

Speaker 2 As I'm getting older, I have more of a respect and appreciation for celebrities who act like old school celebrities that don't comment on every event, that aren't too much on social media, that just like do great projects and kind of like go away for a while.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? I literally said today, I said, I'm hoping that I make so much money on this tour that I get to be like a Dele and I can just disappear for a while.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's and then like when my coin starts to come down a little bit, then I can bust back out, do another tour

Speaker 2 and then just boom, you know, just, but I also hate Vegas. So what's upsetting you about as a lover of, I assume you're a millennial like us.

Speaker 2 So as a lover of the 90s and as a millennial, what's annoying you about Gen Z? Oh, they piss me.

Speaker 2 They just piss me off. About the alphas.
They just piss me off. Like everybody pisses me off.
Everybody.

Speaker 2 Gen Z's, gen what is it gen x alpha gen alpha are we gen alpha yeah alpha's the next that's we gotta start again and gen z's after us and then alpha's after them okay well they pissed me off trying to act like they created all this clothes that we've been wearing for years like bitch just sit down with your baggy pants right okay like we were doing that

Speaker 2 we was doing that in 1995 like please have a seat that pisses me off honestly like low-rise jeans they didn't make them they didn't make them sit down i've been wearing low-rise jeans forever yeah i mean just ass crack out you just gotta and i see like they're pulling the thongs up now yes and i'm like telltales let me tell you something lita did that on wwf in 1998 okay don't play with me you a wwf man i was when i was in the trolley park i haven't watched it in years oh come back to us it's great are you still are you still a wrestler best show on earth stop that out stop watch the vince mcmandock on the

Speaker 2 i haven't watched it i want to watch it so good i've heard it

Speaker 2 i've heard i heard that it is wild. Yeah, wrestling's the best.
Yeah. I used to believe that shit was so real, too.
Yeah. I mean, it is.
That's a nice thing. No, it's not quit playing.

Speaker 2 Okay, it's not real, but it athletically, I mean, athletically spectacular. Yeah.

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Speaker 2 Guys and gals, well, here, I have an article pulled up because we were talking about Ozempic earlier and this caught my eye and I thought we could all talk about it. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 Basically, there are tapeworm pills for weight loss. Excuse me?

Speaker 2 Is your take a tapeworm? They're sold on the dark web. Fuck no.
No.

Speaker 2 Doctors on YouTube. I don't want to see your Google history.

Speaker 2 Tapeworm egg pills are being sold on the dark web as a quick fix weight solution. Some of them can grow up to 30 feet long.
Oh, absolutely the fuck not. And they munch on your post-chew meal.

Speaker 2 You're canceled.

Speaker 2 You're canceled.

Speaker 2 It was worth it.

Speaker 2 I just, my stomach is turning. Can you imagine? Could you imagine taking a worm because you want to be skinny? Bitch, I'll put on my spanks and call it a day.
Beauty of Spain.

Speaker 2 He's shooting up.

Speaker 2 He goes a Zempic mainline sit, right? You're in the

Speaker 2 main line. You need Jesus.
He's literally the tiniest needle in my belly. Tiny.

Speaker 2 Tiny. I'm going to pray for you.
And I don't even pray, but I'm going to pray for you. You're going to make this

Speaker 6 religion. I'm I'm going to inject you with those Zempic in the night.

Speaker 2 No, you're not. Cause I'm not going to end up pregnant.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 No, I am not. You got the right bitch.
No, right idea, wrong bitch.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 you have been on a body journey. I have.
Like, how much weight have you lost? 100 pounds. 100 pounds.
That's a whole person. Yeah, that's an old person.

Speaker 6 Ask him how long ago he lost.

Speaker 2 How long ago?

Speaker 2 15 years. Damn, for real? Maybe more, 18.
Yeah. It's been that long? I'm over it.
Yeah. Okay.
He's been, he's been skinny.

Speaker 6 He's been skinny longer than he's been fat.

Speaker 2 I was fat on one of the real peaks of my career. And so people know me as fat.
I don't see you as that fat person. Sure.
Yeah. Let me be real with you.
Okay. I obviously know who you are, right?

Speaker 2 You're just whatever. But like, I was never, I never really watched like Drake and Josh or anything like that.

Speaker 2 But like, of course, I saw like, like you see a person like transform, you know, like anybody, not just you, just like anybody transforming their lives. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 I'm about to hype you up just a little bit, okay? You kind of fine. Thank you.
All right. So you need to like,

Speaker 2 you need to like feel, you know, you kind of, you, you, like, you could fuck these hoes up out here. I, I, yes, I do.
So you fuck them up. One in particular named Paige, my wife.
Yeah. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 2 She better interrupt. She fucks her up.

Speaker 2 You better, you better.

Speaker 2 She better

Speaker 2 realize. Why not fucks you?

Speaker 2 Cut this out, me.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 Paige, your man is a daddy over here.

Speaker 2 Okay, like, you better be hopping on that. She's cute.
You want to see a picture of her? I do.

Speaker 6 Hop on, Paige.

Speaker 2 Oh, she is.

Speaker 2 Okay, you kind of outkicks your coverage, but I did.

Speaker 2 I married up. You did.

Speaker 2 But you know what? It's just like me. Like, and just like, just like every person is like, we always see the person that we used to be.

Speaker 2 Like, what you look in the mirror and you see of yourself right now is not what I look at you and see. Sure.
You know what I mean? He just says that I'm skinny. Like, yes,

Speaker 2 but what I see in the mirror is not a skinny person. You know what I mean? Like, we still see the old versions of ourselves.
And that's just a mental thing. Like, it's a mental.

Speaker 6 Do you feel though when somebody takes a great photo of you, you see it?

Speaker 6 Like, there's a huge difference between me looking at myself in the mirror versus me looking at a picture that somebody took of me.

Speaker 6 I can acknowledge when I look skinny in a photo, but I can't acknowledge the same in the mirror.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 100%. And don't get me twisted.
I'm fine as hell.

Speaker 2 Okay. You ain't got to tell me.
I am. I know I I look the fuck.
Like, you don't, don't tell me that I'm ugly because I know I'm not. That's why I never pursued music because I was like, you know what?

Speaker 2 You can tell me a lot of things about me. Like you can tell me that I'm not funny because bitch, I know I am.

Speaker 2 My bank account says it. You can tell me that I'm ugly because, bitch, I know I'm not.
But if you tell me I can't sing, my feelings will be hurt. So

Speaker 2 it's just like, it's crazy how little things

Speaker 2 like can trigger us. So, so it's the thing about comedy, and I've heard it said before, is that it's the closest thing to justice, right? Because if it doesn't get get a laugh, it wasn't funny.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So you can point to proof. Like these people aren't coming to watch me flame out for 90 minutes.
They're laughing at 50 shows in a year. And that's just the first part of the tour.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, you're right. With music or anything like that.
It's more vulnerable. What I like, you're allowed to not like.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's, that's scary.

Speaker 2 And that's the same thing with comedy, though, is like comedy is subjective.

Speaker 2 You know, like you can go see a comedian perform a 90-minute set and laugh your ass off where I might sit there and be like, that wasn't funny. Right.
You know, like, I didn't find the humor in that.

Speaker 2 So it's a scary thing because you're like, I hope these bitches like me. Because they see, they see something on the internet.
And like, what you see on the internet is not what you see at my show.

Speaker 2 Like, I prepared them. I'm raunchy.
Like, I get in the trenches and I'm offensive. Like, I am waiting to get canceled.
Like, what's who are we offending? Yeah, everybody.

Speaker 2 What type of everybody? I'm offending everybody. When has the show gone truly off track or like off the rails where you were like, that was wild even for me?

Speaker 2 So there's a clip that I posted on my Instagram not long ago and it blew up and people were eating me alive because there was a son and a father on the front row of my show and two straight men coming to my show.

Speaker 2 You know, like I'm very aware that my, my audience is primarily women. Women spend money.
I don't want an audience of full of men. They ain't gonna buy no fucking merch.

Speaker 2 So like I'm I'm here for it, but I'm like these two men and this this guy, it's his son and his dad. And the son looks like he's fucking 40 years old.
Okay. But he was 18.

Speaker 2 And so I said, I was like, are y'all here together? And they were like, yeah. I was like, oh, I was like, wait, y'all are, you know, and he was like, no, that's my dad.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh, shit, I thought y'all was fucking, you know, like, I had no idea. And I do a lot of crowd work.
That's my favorite part to do in my show.

Speaker 2 But I was like, wait a minute, how old are you? And he was like, 18. And I was like, you look 40 years old.
You know, like, I had no idea that you were 18. Like, I had no clue.

Speaker 2 And I don't have a filter, y'all. So if I think it, I say it.
And I was like, wait, how tall are you? And he was like, 6'5. I was like,'Bitch, stand up.' And he stood up, and I got off the stage.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I was like, Oh, you is, I would climb you like a tree, you know? And the internet ate me alive for that. And they were like, That's disgusting.
He's 18.

Speaker 2 I'm like, First off, bitch, he ain't even my type. It's called comedy.
It's called, you know, reading the room. Everybody thought it was hysterical.
I said, Second off, he's legal. So suck my ass.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like, it is.

Speaker 6 Also, also just suck my ass in general.

Speaker 6 Like, these, fuck these people. Fuck these people.

Speaker 2 Fuck them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I love it. That's right.
Fuck them. Fuck them.
I love it too. Fuck them.
And emotions were.

Speaker 2 Fuck them.

Speaker 2 Go get them, Ben. You tell them.
Fuck them.

Speaker 2 You tell them.

Speaker 2 Ben, should we do a speak pipe? A what? Fuck them. Yes.
Yes, we should. Welcome to our show.
So a speak pipe is basically we have people call in and leave messages for the show. Okay.

Speaker 2 They're asking for advice, things that they need us to like, you know, just some insight from the good guys.

Speaker 2 And now we have three great guys here so let's hear the first one is going to be from someone great by the way go to speakpipe.com slash good guys if you want to leave us a message this first one is from i swear to god okay this one's from joy hi josh and ben this is joy josh i just want to let you know that you were my first crush as a kid nobody at school compared to you chubby chaser he was trying to fuck you from a shit overweight guys i want to know what you think i wonder why i picked this one i just turned 32, and my dating life has been a little dry lately.

Speaker 2 So, I'm trying to make a point of being more active,

Speaker 2 handling things.

Speaker 7 Handling things. I recently had a guy I went to high school with reach out to me, and I had a crush on him.

Speaker 2 And I guess he had a crush on everybody too. And we had a phone date, and it went really well.

Speaker 7 It lasted several hours.

Speaker 2 Oh, lasted several hours.

Speaker 7 And he started getting really weird and talking about his healthy sexual appetite and how he expected a partner to participate in activity every day.

Speaker 7 Now, I was caught off guard because it didn't relate to anything we had been previously talking about, and the word expect made me feel uncomfy. So, I want to know what you think.

Speaker 7 Is it too long ago to try and see if there's any spark there?

Speaker 7 And is this just a booty call? Or should I pursue this and see where things go? See if there's a romantic construction.

Speaker 2 She's pissing me off.

Speaker 2 She's off. She'll get me off.
Like, she's pissing me off. Bitch just said her coochie has been dry for how long? And the man is trying to fuck.
And she's like, I'm just uncomfy.

Speaker 2 You can pick one or the other, hoe. You cannot be on both ends of the spook.
Like, come on. Yes.
I'm pissed. Wow.
Agreed.

Speaker 6 Also, Josh, I'd be pissed if I was page two. She says, I love you, Josh.
By the way, I've been sexually inactive for quite some time. Nuh-uh.
He's taken.

Speaker 2 What? Do you think she joy's trying to get it? She's trying to get it. Yeah, she is.
Oh, Joy. Yes, she is.

Speaker 2 Joyce came on and said, Josh, I had a huge crush on you.

Speaker 6 By the way, I haven't had sex in a while.

Speaker 2 She also had a huge crush on her. She's the guy that crushes on everybody.

Speaker 2 But I have a resentment against people who had crushes on me back in the day because I think they're a little bit too accepting. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 Where did he mention that he wants to be sexually active every day? Because if they're like at Ben Ahana's and he's like, you know what I like to do? Bugs. bucks.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 And I'll have the fried rice. It's weird.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, by the way, by the way, he definitely sounds like a bit of a creeper, but to Matt's point, she's saying that she wants to have sex with people.

Speaker 2 Choose one hard.

Speaker 2 If you want to invest in it, you wanted a guy to fuck you.

Speaker 6 Now he's fucking you. And now you don't want him to fuck you.

Speaker 2 If you're going to be Virgin Mary, then be Virgin Mary. Like,

Speaker 2 nobody's shaming you for being a Virgin Mary, but don't try to say, I got cobwebs on my cooch, but I don't want nobody to fuck me. Yes.
Baby, you got to choose. She's bipolar.

Speaker 2 Yes, and we're sponsored by bipolar medication.

Speaker 2 We are no, but we should be. Oh, um, this next one is from this: it's an update.

Speaker 2 Okay, this is from a woman who called us, said she was moving in with her girlfriend that she had only a two-month relationship with, that they were leasing an apartment together. Okay.

Speaker 2 And she wanted advice about how it was going to go. And we said, horribly.

Speaker 6 Let's say it would be a bad idea. No good.

Speaker 2 Let's hear from.

Speaker 2 Hey, guys, it's Allie again.

Speaker 8 I sent you a speak pipe months ago, and Ben roasted me and tore me apart. And Josh told me that my girlfriend might be growing marijuana in the closet.
Well, turns out it was a horrible decision.

Speaker 8 I will never do anything against y'all's judgment again. It's been terrible.
Terrible, terrible, terrible. Had to call the cops.

Speaker 8 It's been a whole mess, and I'm stuck in a lease unless I can get out of it.

Speaker 2 Long story.

Speaker 8 Just wanted to give you an update and also ask your opinion on Chapel Rown because I would love to hear Ben talk about her and her performance with Olivia. Love you guys.
Goodbye. Bye.

Speaker 2 Okay. Wow.

Speaker 6 I'm just saying, you want to talk about manifestation, the fact that she brought back up Chapel Roan.

Speaker 2 I think, I think me and Chapel are going to end up being friends. I see that.

Speaker 2 We might perform together.

Speaker 6 You might end up being friends. Now, the reason that Josh and I didn't like this is because you don't know somebody after two months and living with them.

Speaker 6 She could have killed her in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 I don't know what happened. This is true.

Speaker 2 But in her defense, i truly am a believer in like when you click with somebody and you just know like that something can work because my husband moved in with me after four months wow and we've been together for 10 years how'd you guys meet on grinder no yeah okay same more either way yeah great yeah and was it he was trying to hit this no so he wanted to hook up right i had already been such a hoe and i was like why can't i keep nobody like i'm cute i got a good personalities you know so like got a couple good personalities, but like I didn't understand why I couldn't keep nobody.

Speaker 2 And I was watching Million Dollar Matchmaker and she said, no sex before monogamy. Is that the one with Patty stanger?

Speaker 2 Let me tell you something. If I ever meet Patty, she's a crazy bitch.
But I have to hug her because I'm married because of her.

Speaker 6 Wow. She's legend Patty.

Speaker 2 And she is,

Speaker 2 she just, she just did my world, right? But I was doing a lot of, a lot of adult activity, but I couldn't keep anybody. And so finally he messaged me.

Speaker 2 He's trying to get a little something, something because he was in town for a wedding. And I was like, not happening.

Speaker 2 So we talked for like back and forth, built a connection, started dating, and we didn't have sex for four months until we were official.

Speaker 2 That was the first man that I had never like went on a date with, like, or didn't just like, if I wasn't, if I was attracted to him, I just didn't hook up with him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 First man that I made wait four months until we were officially like together monogamous before we started like doing the thing, bitch, he put a ring on it and we've been together for 10 years.

Speaker 2 So it worked. Wow.
Yeah. It's like Taylor Swift lyrics.

Speaker 2 yeah i mean love song that's something that was beautiful did you know i heard this recently and tell me guys what we all think and and please olivia feel free to weigh in on this two men getting married the odds of success are only 25 as of today end in divorce man and a woman it's 48 divorce with two women 72 divorce damn thoughts on these uh statistics okay so i'm gonna be you're you go ahead you first no i was gonna say so you're saying that the chances of divorce of a gay married couple is the lowest.

Speaker 2 Yes, and lesbians is the highest. Indeed.
Yeah, because there's a lot of emotion there.

Speaker 6 I was going to say, I can't opine.

Speaker 2 Are you married?

Speaker 6 Like, Matt, you go first. I'm married.
I've been married for seven years. Okay.

Speaker 2 To a woman?

Speaker 6 To my wife, and we've been together for 12 years. Okay.
I think that if you marry the right person, then it's great. Okay.
I can't even fathom being married to the wrong fucking person.

Speaker 6 I'd want to kill myself.

Speaker 2 So I'm kind of nervous to even say this because I've never said this. I've never, I don't talk about it publicly because it's, you know, like, I'm waiting to get canceled for it.

Speaker 2 So my husband and I have been together for 10 years. Very incredible marriage.
Incredible. Like, I'm obsessed with him.
He's obsessed with me. We are very, we have incredible communication.

Speaker 2 Like the longer we've been together, the better our relationship has gotten. And I am, I think more emotionally.
So I am more emotional.

Speaker 2 He is more straight up dude, like drinks his beer, like, you know, straight up. I'm married to a straight man that just likes, you know, penis.

Speaker 2 So he encouraged me for a minute, you know, to, to be a little hoe, you know, now I never, I never would because I'm like, nope, not happening. And then I met this guy and clicked.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, what the fuck? And so we were like, we can't be together because I'm married, you know? But then like, we were just best friends. What does be a, be a hoe mean?

Speaker 2 Like, like fuck other people. Okay, so he wanted to open up the relationship.
No, he didn't want it to open up. Like, he just wanted me to like.
One way open. Yeah.

Speaker 2 so i mean i mean you don't have to use this if you don't like i've never said this publicly but i'm just like we're just talking about it so i became best friends with this guy and like but i mean immediately clicked so he came and like spent the weekend with us and like him and my husband clicked like not not romantically just like best like he's also like i'm a drink a beer like right dude just redneck three mormons clicking and yeah pretty much yeah let's so they became like really good friends and my husband's like you should try like see what happens like relationship and i'm like wait what Three.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but my husband and him weren't romantic. It was just me and him.
But he would be part of the system. Yeah, he's a part of the system, but they're not romantic.
They're just friends.

Speaker 2 And when I tell y'all, it made me and my husband even closer. Insane.

Speaker 2 Now, it was the craziest shit I've ever done in my life because I'm like, I've never in my million years thought that I would never do that.

Speaker 2 Like, cause I'm not interested in other, you know what I mean? But it made me realize that, like, people, you can, you can be in love with more than one person, you know, like, I truly believe that.

Speaker 2 And it made me and my husband so much closer.

Speaker 2 And I don't know, I think maybe because like there was another level of happiness that I had because of my husband, because I would have never done it if he didn't want me to. Right.

Speaker 2 But that's what we were talking about is like gay marriages to men, the statistics being lower because like for me, I'm emotional. My husband's not.
So there was no jealousy.

Speaker 2 Like he's not jealous of anything because he was so confident and secure in our relationship and our marriage that he was like, I'm not worried about it. Like you do you, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 6 And like, you, you you had to say it before I said it, but there are just different rules for gay men than there are for straight men. Like, it's just, it's just different.

Speaker 6 Like, there is, I think, so much more experimenting. Like, it's, it's acceptable.

Speaker 2 Like, like, they're just. I don't know that I have to say that.
You don't think so? I don't think that it's a gay thing because there's a lot of straight couples out there that are

Speaker 2 open and like, there's, you know what I mean? Like. But, but they won't talk about it.
They don't talk about it. Like, yeah.
In the same way.

Speaker 2 I don't really talk about it just because my life is so public, you know, And like, half of my fans would probably be like, oh my God, that's an affair, which is not because my husband knew exactly everything.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Like, I never hid anything from him. And like, me and that guy are still best friends.
Like, you know, like, we are, everything is great. Like, we have a great relationship.

Speaker 2 But I think at the end of the day, it all just comes down to the person, you know? Right. Like, I mean, it sounds so then, what's wrong?

Speaker 6 So then, what's wrong with the lesbian?

Speaker 2 There's so much emotion there, you know? Like, and I have a lot of emotion because I think more like a woman, where my husband is definitely a dude. He doesn't have that.

Speaker 2 And like both of them, like, they are very much dudes. Like, whereas I am very jealous.
I am very overthinking. I am very, like, I have all of those.

Speaker 2 And majority of women, that's how they feel as well. You know, like they're emotional.
And like emotions make or break relationships.

Speaker 6 But do you think I would, I would, I would argue that Josh and I are the emotional ones in our relationships.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, I didn't say everybody, but it is like, I mean, because there's a lot of women that think like dudes.
I'm a dude, but I think like a woman.

Speaker 2 But I think my, I would venture to guess that my wife would hate both versions, but the thing that she would be more hurt by, and Olivia, if you feel free to weigh in, you don't have to, but I think she would be even more hurt by me not just having a random romantic interlude with someone, but more so that I was being vulnerable and had a new best friend relationship, right?

Speaker 2 Like an emotional connection with someone who was hearing about my life and that we were do, you know, cuddling and affectionate.

Speaker 2 Because the physical part, maybe someone could chalk up to like, oh, you're just like a sex state. Yeah.
But like the emotion part would kill her. Olivia, thoughts? Yeah.
You don't have to have them.

Speaker 2 You don't want to, you don't want to share. No, no, thank you.

Speaker 9 But yeah, I'd agree with that. I think like having that level of an emotional connection with somebody, it's so sacred in a relationship that that's like you're number one, you know?

Speaker 9 So I think that that having like finding that out would be a lot more hurtful than just the physical element.

Speaker 9 Although the physical element, like we talked about a few episodes back, you know, also hurtful if it's not being discussed.

Speaker 9 And, you know, like you mentioned, an open thing where you're, there's communication and everybody's on the same page. Like to, to kind of have that, it would just, it'd make me feel left out.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that's the thing too is like, I feel like, I mean, I know people in my life that not like friends or, but I just know people that have been married for years and years and years.

Speaker 2 And they're like, us being open, like helped our relationship. Cause like, how do most, most marriages end because they go fuck somebody, you know,

Speaker 2 and and they cheat, you know, which I'm, that's not what I'm for. And if my husband told me, hey, I want to get a boyfriend, I would be like, you, are you on the spectrum?

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I would punch him dead in his, in his shit. Like, I would rock his shit, you know, because now

Speaker 2 he let you out. I'm jealous.
He's not. Sure.
So, like, jealousy plays the big, plays the big part. But what if he said? What if he was like, well, there's got to be some reciprocity.
No, bitch.

Speaker 2 There's nothing. No.
No. Wow.
Absolutely the fuck not.

Speaker 2 You're mine.

Speaker 2 You're like an emotional Tony Soprano. I love it.
I'm a psychopath. Yes.
I actually have a, I start seeing a therapist next week. Okay.
Oh, welcome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, because I like it is, there's just, oh, God, this, y'all, this could be five podcasts long, but you're not going to get me back in new, I mean, back in LA.

Speaker 2 So you're going to have to Zoom, Zoom, bitch.

Speaker 2 We'll come to Alabama. Come on.
Yes, we'll do a remote app. Period.
Love it.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's just, there's a lot that goes on there, you know, and like, I don't, I don't, I mean, I can't speak for everybody, but like emotions, jealousy, how people think, you know, their mindsets is different for everybody.

Speaker 2 And so I feel like that's the biggest component. And I, I have friends, because I have like.
couples, friends in their 30s, early 40s, right?

Speaker 2 So they kind of get to that point where their kids are grown-ish,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 Like preteens early teens and the relationship has sort of gone astray for a while wasn't working for a long time and then suddenly you hear so-and-so are open right and they're trying this and my issue with it always is you never hear the reverse you never hear it was going so well with the two of us we were so in love that we said let's bring in another like let's open this thing right it's usually the the last stop before divorce because it's like things are so bad we're not connecting we're not communicating

Speaker 2 let's just try this because

Speaker 2 divorce is so much paperwork. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's hard.
But I mean, it was kind of the opposite for me. Right.
That's what I was saying. Like me and my husband.
No, it's kind of like.

Speaker 6 No, this is why straight people suck.

Speaker 2 I mean, like,

Speaker 2 that's what I was trying to say. What's so funny is everybody says, your husband's incredible.
Like, how do we get a Rob?

Speaker 2 You know, like, how do we, because everybody's like, I wish I could have a boyfriend. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, but I think it, like, it all works because I think that you can, I believe, because I've experienced it that you can love more than one person.

Speaker 2 Like at the end of the day, we're fucking mammals, right? Like mammals aren't typically, they're not meant to be monogamous. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like the only monogamous mammal is a penguin, I think. Penguins are monogamous? That's the only, that's the only one.
That is so cute. That is so cute.

Speaker 2 And they get their color from shrimp. Yeah.
Period. So, you know what I mean? So I think it's just, it always depends on the person, number one.

Speaker 2 But like me being with somebody else and like this is TMI, but I don't give a fuck because I put my life out there for the world like we were we like we never really were intimate like because we we weren't we didn't date like really for a long for a very long time and it's all about not like she said like leaving somebody out like it's all about you know like communication and and always including other people everybody's feelings you know what I mean so like you don't ever leave somebody out and make them feel unwanted, you know?

Speaker 2 And for me, it was the hardest for me because I have two people that I adore, that I love, that love me. And I have to give both of them my time and my affection and my energy, you know?

Speaker 2 Whereas they just had me. Right.
So they didn't have to fuck with each other. You know, like I just had two people, but I'm like, I'm a bad bitch.
I can do it.

Speaker 2 It sounds like a new show. Like Brother Husband.
Truly.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, watch it.

Speaker 2 It was, I mean, it's

Speaker 2 definitely, and people are, people are so going to judge me and they're so going to, you know, like whatever.

Speaker 2 But at the end of the day, like, my thing is, if you're happy, then people judge me for being gay my whole life. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So like, who the really who gives a fuck what somebody if you if you don't pay my bills or give me orgasms your opinion of me is irrelevant that's what i tell bad i also i also don't i also don't know why they would judge you the the key here that you've mentioned a hundred times is honesty you didn't do anything behind anybody's backs the problem with us with the straight people is we exclusively do things behind other people's backs and then it comes back to bite us i told somebody was judging me telling me that it was i should do better i'm in the public eye i shouldn't be promoting i said first of all I'm doing what everybody else was doing.

Speaker 2 My husband just knows about it. I said,

Speaker 2 I said, y'all do all this shit behind. Y'all just be cheating.

Speaker 2 But I also, what I also would say is those couples in my life who were like kind of having their sojourn into opening relationships, what they hated was that people were talking about it.

Speaker 2 And I wanted to be like, uh-uh, like you can't, you can have both,

Speaker 2 but you can have the suburban experience with your kids and the wife and the PTA and the whole thing. But if you're going to be open, people are going to talk about that too.
Right.

Speaker 2 You can't just have like perfect little marriage and then on the side, y'all are just randomly hooking up with people.

Speaker 2 And here's the, like, here's what I feel about that too, is because people, everybody told me, my family, his family, you know, all three of our families, that's never going to work.

Speaker 2 It's never going to work. It's never going to work.
That's not normal. It's not normal.
I said, why is it not normal? Because it's not normal. It's not normal because we were taught.

Speaker 2 We do what we're taught.

Speaker 2 Our religious beliefs are our religious beliefs because we're taught to believe them. Our political beliefs are typically our political beliefs because we're taught to believe them.

Speaker 2 I'm like, we were taught that relationships are normal with two people. But if you're not taught that, it's not a learned behavior.
Like, then why was, why is it not normal? You know? Right.

Speaker 2 It's probably because we've benefited from the evolution of relationship. Right.
And that, like, when you put a healthy level of stress on something, it's like, it forges a diamond. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that in some, not all cases, but in many cases, like that was beautiful. That was beautiful.
I'm here, babe. That was beautiful.

Speaker 6 That was beautiful. That was beautiful.

Speaker 2 So that was beautiful.

Speaker 6 And I agree. And I, and I totally agree.
I will say, though, that, I will say, though, that not everything, like, there is not a one-size-fits-all year.

Speaker 6 Like, what is normal for most is not normal for all. That's true.
And so it really is.

Speaker 2 I mean, I would say this, like, if it, if it never worked with the three of us, I would never do it again. You know what I mean? Like, it was just, it was just that person.

Speaker 2 You know, that person just fit our life. What preceded this, like for Rob to just one day go, try it.
Can you pinpoint anything? I don't fucking know. It's interesting, right? He just woke up.

Speaker 2 And he thinks that I'm the crazy person because I'm so jealous. And I'm like, you realize you're the crazy person.
Right.

Speaker 2 Like most people, 99% of the world does not want their partner having sex with somebody else. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, I'm not the crazy person for being a psychopath that's jealous of my husband, like potentially being with somebody else. Sure.
You know?

Speaker 2 know no i was like that's the normal that's normal you're not normal you know

Speaker 2 but it's i also believe that love is a choice love is not a decision i mean sorry love is not a feeling you don't you don't wake up it's not butterflies and rainbows forever you have to wake up every single day and choose to love that person and choose to be with that person through all the bullshit through everything that life throws at you and you choose to be with them forever so like it has to be there there's so much that goes into a real i need a talk show this is beautiful like damn this podcast has been funny this podcast has been like truly i just i'm just saying we are killing it and we have we have one final segment josh you want to introduce it yes so our final segment is called what are you nuts and it's our gripes with people places and things just like something that's annoying us sticking in our crawl big or small can be anything we'll start so you can think about yours but There are no wrong answers with what are you nuts.

Speaker 6 And considering you hate people,

Speaker 6 it should be incredibly easy for you. But I will start.
I was walking to the studio today and I passed this parking lot every day. I've never really noticed they had a new special and it said $28.

Speaker 6 And I'm like, oh, in the city, that's pretty cheap. If you park between 4 and 8 a.m., what do you nuts?

Speaker 6 Who's staying between 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock in the morning? What kind of a special is this? The duration, 4 to 8, not park there and you get it for 28 bucks.

Speaker 6 If you stay between 4 and 8 a.m., it's $28.

Speaker 2 I thought that was pissed me off. My woody nuts is I was working out at the gym the other day, the Great Equinox.
I don't mean to brag. I'm not in LA Fitness.
So, and I see. Are you sponsored? I am.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's what I'm talking about. And so there's this guy and he's in front of the free weights, like, yeah, the free weights.
And he's one inch away from the free weights doing shoulder raises.

Speaker 2 He's raising an inch away. So now I have to go because, you know, I got to get over to the 15s because we go heavy.

Speaker 2 yeah i'm going can i can i get and finally i just have to go and walk away move away yeah if you want

Speaker 2 don't block the free weights and yeah it made me upset what are you nuts i have two can i do two okay so my first one is people that stand up on the airplane as soon as it lands yeah like we're all going to the same sit your ass down I'm manifesting a private jet because I can't take it no more.

Speaker 2 Like that.

Speaker 2 That pisses me off. Like, we ain't even got to the gate yet and you're standing up.
Sit your ass down. Yes.
I can't stand that. Number two is I can't stand entitlement.

Speaker 2 People, like I was on a plane a couple of weeks ago and there were ladies and like a couple rows up and they were like holding their phone up to take a picture of me.

Speaker 2 And I was just like, I felt so uncomfortable the whole flight because like I looked up and they just snapped pictures and like. I could hear them talking.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, if you just asked for a picture, like I would have been fine to take a picture.

Speaker 2 But like, it's just the level of entitlement that people have you know I'm like bitch where is my where is my like do you still deal with that like today like how does that work for you like going in public dealing with the public people yeah I mean 95% of interactions are lovely which I would imagine is the same for you right 95 is yeah I think yeah but then some people be peopling yeah I love when people will say to me I remember a guy once said hey man are people in showbiz assholes and i was like it's just like the world like there are plenty of assholes and a lot of great people are people at waffle house assholes yeah some of them are yeah exactly most yeah definitely the guy and the girl yeah he's good that short order cook's giving me bad eye contact he's pissed so good i miss a waffle house but yeah it's just but then there are people the few times i've had people put a phone in my face like where it will startle me and i'll like I won't grab the phone, but I'll literally push the phone away from me because it feels like such an invasion.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
It's just that.

Speaker 2 And that's, I think it's an entitlement thing of like they see you on the internet so they believe that they're your best friend and and that's what i think like i love those people because without them i would not be successful totally we wouldn't have these careers if it weren't for the people that supported us but some people just need to chill the out

Speaker 2 so that's my those are my two those are my two things what are you nuts

Speaker 6 matt where where can people find you i know that we're talking about bougie bougie on a budget but where can they find you and what else are we promoting that's candles

Speaker 2 mattmatthews.com for all of the tour and clothing and boudoir photos

Speaker 2 i listen i went and i went to your website before this yeah i was getting a little turned on yeah these boudoir photos and these lovely alabamians i mean they don't even most of our clients are from all over the world like they travel now like it's not even you gonna come do one yes do it for your wife yes can i i'll just can i wear a turtleneck

Speaker 2 I'm covering up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, the first thing that went to my mind was turtleneck. You know, sometimes I think like when I say turtleneck, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I hear that.
So, yeah, mattmatthews.com, Matt underscore Matthews on all socials. You know, we out here checking our titties.
So just a random question before you go.

Speaker 2 Did you listen to the S-Town podcast? Yeah. John B.
Mackley. It was right next.
That's the town I live in. Bibb County? You live in Bib County?

Speaker 2 Oh, my. We have so much to talk about.
Is that one of the greatest pods ever made? It was pretty good. You know that Little Caesars? Yes.
I eat there all the time. Yeah, Little Caesars.
K3 Lumber.

Speaker 2 K3 Lumber? It's right. It's five minutes from my house.

Speaker 2 All right. Just end the show, Ben.
I need to,

Speaker 6 thank you so much for joining us. It was fantastic.
Folks, you can get our podcast wherever you get podcasts. Spotify, Apple.
Make sure to rate us five stars. If not, what are you nuts? Listen to us.

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We'll see you next time.

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