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Speaker 2 they're just so good

Speaker 2 guys

Speaker 2 whoa muscle morons i'm sitting here with a guy who looks like he works at a jewish sleepaway camp it's been sober

Speaker 2 you know josh the second that the thermostat goes up over 70 degrees in the great state of new york we're wearing shorts I wore shoes for you.

Speaker 2 I decided not to wear my Tevas or my Naotes, but yes, I definitely feel like I am a camp counselor. Camp Counselor?

Speaker 2 You're wearing earth tones. You're wearing a t-shirt and shorts.
You look ready for anything.

Speaker 2 You look svelte, and you look like you just got back from telling Rivka that she has a care package in cabin two. She does.
And I don't know if you notice, my glasses are also a hue of green.

Speaker 2 My shirt is a hue of green. My shorts are a hue of green.
And all I have to say is quick shout out, Josh.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you know what this shirt is, but this is Tiger Woods' new golf shirt company called Sunday Red.

Speaker 2 And all I have to say is I am on Tiger Woods's PR list Josh so shout out okay shout out this isn't this isn't your mother's shirt okay this is Tiger Woods Sunday Red exclusive PR I can hook you up I can hook you up I just like Tiger Woods because it proves that you can make an excellent specimen and all you have to do is break their heart and soul from two years old.

Speaker 2 Do you know, like, you're aware of how good Tiger Woods is, right? Or was? the michael jordan a once in a generation

Speaker 2 i don't even think like if you look at tiger woods's stats as literally everybody clicks off of this podcast if you look at tiger woods's stats he was the most dominant player in golf for like 10 straight years but to the point where he won like 95 of his events it's not even comparable to michael jordan like if you really look at it it's like michael jordan winning going 80 80 and two like that was what Tiger Woods was doing he was so much better than everybody else and yeah so what he had no childhood who cares he's a legend he's a legend

Speaker 2 what if you're me though and you had no childhood and you're just like I

Speaker 2 oh good he got a podcast all he had to give up was years eight through 18

Speaker 2 fucking consolation prize

Speaker 2 that is so funny You gave up just as much as Tiger Woods.

Speaker 2 You're a loser. You're honestly, you're in the same camp as like Serena Williams.

Speaker 2 Tiger Woods.

Speaker 2 That is a harsh reality

Speaker 2 to sit with. And I'll tell you, we're going to move on, but I'm not.
I haven't moved on here. It's one of the funniest things I've ever heard and ever thought of, and I love it.

Speaker 2 You're so much better off. You know that, Josh? You know that? You're so much better off.
What is this shirt you're wearing? I love it. I can't read it from here.
What does it say?

Speaker 2 This is rain or shine, and it's my

Speaker 2 charity feed the streets. Yes.
It's our merch. I have merged, so everyone can know that I'm a good person when they walk by me.
Yes, rain or shine, feed the streets. I absolutely love it.
I love it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we'll move on we'll move on from you being a child prodigy or or what could have been you could have done that you could have been like magnus josh you could have put all your childhood into chess

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 it'd be interesting being that good at something being like excellent like that truly one percent because like here's the thing yes i did give that up but like i can assimilate like i can hang i'm a fun hang you know what i mean i can oh yeah

Speaker 2 chop it up with the best of them these real elites like that, the Tigers, the Magnuses, I don't know if they're down to clown. Like, are they a fun hang? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 Actually, Tiger Woods is definitely a fun hang. Tiger Woods, at this point in his career, has to be a fun hang.
I'm trying to think about like the people that I have met who are on that net.

Speaker 2 I mean, chatting with Christopher Nolan here and there, he was a fun, he was a fun chat. It just, I think people like that always seem like they have their mind on something more important.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because they do. Yeah.
They're like, they're like, can you shut the fuck up and leave me alone?

Speaker 2 Because I have so many more important things to do in my brain that will lead to so much more than the conversation that we're having. I do wonder how difficult small talk is for people like that.

Speaker 2 It's probably very hard. Very hard.
I don't know. Cause like for me, I want to talk about Amazon Prime Day.
You know what I mean? I want to talk about... A sweet deal.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or like something for the table that we ordered that was really good.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, Chrissy boy, you'll never guess how good the spin art dip was at cpk last week and he's like i literally made batman can you rot and go fuck off

Speaker 2 but he wouldn't be that way he'd be a freaking gentleman the way he's always been speaking of a best josh do you have a best spite of the week have you had something absolutely scrumptious recently that tickled your tongue that you'd like to share I'm so glad you teamed me up for that.

Speaker 2 Funny enough, our friends at Dorsey recently gave me a few more credits. Thanks.
Glad you could spare it. I'm happy you have money to eat.
Feed the streets.

Speaker 2 Feed the me.

Speaker 2 Feed Josh. Feed the Josh.
But shout up, Dorcia. They hit me up and they were like, yo, we want you to go out.

Speaker 2 And Dorsey is launching this new thing called Moon Pay, where they can like, you can use crypto to actually get Dorsey credits, which is cool.

Speaker 2 I was like, guys, I don't have crypto because I have a scarcity complex from growing up the way that I did and not getting residuals. And they were like, we get it.
Just whatever. Just go eat dinner.

Speaker 2 Stop talking.

Speaker 2 So anyway, we went to mozza the other day which is a nancy silverton brilliant chef it's one of her restaurants in la and for dessert she has this ice cream sundae i think it's called the tin roof ice cream sundae it's this beautiful ice cream and then she does hot homemade marshmallow dip like a marshmallow drizzle oh

Speaker 2 spanish peanuts my boy spanish ones you've had these no what is the difference between a spanish peanut and a regular peanut? They're zesty.

Speaker 2 I don't know what it is, my boy, but just like everything else Spanish, they're better. They're excellent.
And the whole thing,

Speaker 2 I just love a texture play and you know that about me. Yes, yes.
I also had a texture play recently on a dessert, Josh. I went to a new restaurant called Raphael on the Upper East Side of New York.

Speaker 2 And let me just describe this dessert to you, okay? This was a strawberry cheesecake, but it wasn't like your mother's strawberry cheesecake, okay?

Speaker 2 There was such a beautiful layer of just like this perfect gelatinous, it was almost like jam. Like they just loaded the top with strawberry jam.
And then you have the perfect cream cheese cheesecake.

Speaker 2 And then of course a gorgeous crumble. Oh, absolutely divine.
10 out of 10. Fantastic.
And the texture, you pointed that out. You go jelly, you go cream, you go crumble.
This is a good dessert.

Speaker 2 This is why I don't like mashed potatoes. No texture.
It's interesting.

Speaker 2 Okay, I'll push you on mashed potatoes, though, because I think that mashed potatoes should never be eaten alone, but mashed potatoes with something actually creates the texture.

Speaker 2 You take a little piece of steak, you dunk it in the mashed potatoes, that's texture, right?

Speaker 2 Or no, or you don't feel that way. If I may push back, wouldn't you rather it be a freet if you're going to be eating it with steak any day?

Speaker 2 I would rather it be creamed spinach. If I have my druthers,

Speaker 2 I'm having it be creamed spinach.

Speaker 2 This was a real outfield type addition you just made. Definitely.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
I'm going to prefer asparagus.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying, if we're saying what we'd prefer, I'm cream spinach. Cream spinach.
No dude.

Speaker 2 If we're staying in the potato sphere. Okay, fine.
So I'll stay in potatoes. Okay, so mashed.

Speaker 2 You like a wedge? I I like a nice wedge, but I prefer mashed with my steak. A potato? Oh, you like a potato wedge with your steak?

Speaker 2 No, I prefer a mashed potato with my steak, but if I had to, honestly, I'd prefer an algratin. How about that? You like an algratin?

Speaker 2 I hear you on that, and there's texture to be had there because of the crispy top, but I think the fries, the steak fritz, it is a thing, is kind of, if you're going to eat a potato with steak, it's one of the more superior options.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. But that would require me to have a bite of my steak and then pick up a fry.
I'm saying, what can I put on top of my piece of steak? That's why I like the mashed potato.

Speaker 2 To each their own, Josh, to each their own.

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Speaker 2 Shout out my friend Chuck, who will go to the most high-end steak restaurants in California, and he will sneak in a bottle of A1 sauce because they don't serve it.

Speaker 2 This is a good comment, Josh. This is a good conversation.
Peter Luger's sauce. The horseradish steak sauce, in my opinion, is the superior steak sauce.
I like an A1 too because it has some tang.

Speaker 2 Far too often, Josh, you'll go into a steakhouse, you'll ask them for something, and they have nothing with bite. It's always like a

Speaker 2 or some kind of like a buttery sauce. I want something horseradish-y, a berblanc, exactly.
What the who wants a berblanc? Not me, okay?

Speaker 2 I want something horseradish-y, I want something with a bite, and a1 is solid. I don't know if I'd bring A1 with me, but that's a lot.
That's like real love for A1.

Speaker 2 I would bring Luger's sauce with me, though. So good.

Speaker 2 I just want to see the look on people's faces when the entrees have dropped, and I dip into my sports coat and go.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. Yeah, I know.
Crazy. Mayor Adams, right? Shouties.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 shouties.

Speaker 2 That's my mom to a T, except my mom will bring the steak home and she'll eat it. Did I send you the picture of her? She's driving, one hand on the wheel, one hand with a lamb chop.

Speaker 2 What an intimate legend. She literally sent me a picture.
She's like, I had a dad brought home a couple extra lamb chops from his event. I brought them in the car with me.

Speaker 2 She's eating lamb chops in the car with one hand. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Driving while gassing.

Speaker 2 So true. Wouldn't want to be in that car.
Oh, shut up, Ava. Was there any mint sauce in the cup holders? Like the mint jelly? No, no mint jelly.
No, which oddly has it.

Speaker 2 I can't ever look at mint jelly again. Do you agree it has a very similar consistency to the jelly that's in an ultrasound?

Speaker 2 Imagine this. Ooh, I go to Claudia's next ultrasound, except I swap it for mint jelly and I bring a nice maybe piece of meat, a nice lamb chop, and I just take a nice scoop right off her belly.

Speaker 2 Do you have the feeling, do you have those invasive thoughts with when they put the jelly on her stomach where you're like, because I want to say it's a little much, right? You don't need that much.

Speaker 2 No. How much do you act? This is a good question.

Speaker 2 How much jelly do you actually need to have a successful ultrasound? And is the jelly really just so that they can easily move it around? That's all that it is, right? Is there a productive reason?

Speaker 2 These are the questions that need to be asked. Correct.
Is it a conductive reason or is it purely for lubrication?

Speaker 2 Because I would argue that just like a little bit of oil might be better, less toxic, maybe like a little bit of extra virgin olive oil to the skin, or is it conductive? Good question, Josh.

Speaker 2 I have a feeling it's purely for lubrication. For sure.
And this entire segment is grossing me out if you ask

Speaker 2 especially because it started with mint jelly imagine they run out and they're just like okay go to the steak shop downstairs pick it up yeah they wouldn't no one would know it would actually probably be better It would smell fantastic.

Speaker 2 Here's another thing, Josh. We need to make scented jelly for these ultrasounds.

Speaker 2 Imagine one, it smelled like churros. That's fantastic.
Diane, congrats. Not only are you having twins, but you're going to acapuco pina colada sentinel.

Speaker 2 Yes, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 There's no innovation, Josh. These women deserve more.

Speaker 2 The truth is, is I judge a place when we have to go to a different doctor, like the high risk or whatever. If they don't have the jelly warming station, I'm like,

Speaker 2 I look at them, I go, Doc, you cheaped out on the warmer. The jelly warmer? You cheaped out on this? I also judge Josh.
If they don't have a wipe. What are you, nuts?

Speaker 2 You're having these women wipe it down with a dry paper towel. Their stomach is going to feel sticky the whole day.
You need wipes.

Speaker 2 This is so interesting. So when you use the restroom at your wife's OB's office,

Speaker 2 in the bathroom, are there condoms, lubes, and other various things for intercourse? There's nothing that I can see. It's just a bathroom, but

Speaker 2 I've never noticed any trinkets. I'm loading up, babe, and I only sleep with one person.

Speaker 2 I can't help it. You're stealing from the OB bathroom.
That's good. It's there.

Speaker 2 No, it's given. Freeze-free.
My wife's going to find it in my pockets doing launch. She's going to think I'm fucking around.
The truth is, I'm just greedy.

Speaker 2 Josh, why do you have a six-pack of condoms? Freeze-free. Freeze-free.

Speaker 2 I make some water balloons. Freeze-free.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's really, it's dirty birdie, babe. Like, I always go in that bathroom and I'm like, wow, I wonder what they're going to have next.
I'm jealous. No, mine is nothing.
Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 They need to step up their game. It's barren.
Barren.

Speaker 2 Okay. Ultrasound gel is used during ultrasound exams to improve sound wave transmission between the transducer and the skin, allowing for clearer images.
Understood. Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 It's a conductive medium. We said that.
Okay, it's a conductive medium. Now, Josh, does it say exactly how much you need to create that conductor?

Speaker 2 It doesn't, but it does say that it not only helps with smooth movement, but it also eliminates air pockets. Ultrasound gel fills in the air gaps between the transducer and the skin.

Speaker 2 Now, does it talk about any scented ultrasound jelly? Or again, is this still just something that we can create? It says that Elon Musk is currently working on a Miami Vice scented ultrasound gel.

Speaker 2 Great, good. Okay.
Shout out to Michelle. I knew he beat us to it.

Speaker 2 That's where all, that's where all the savings are going. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's like,

Speaker 2 I'm working on Market now.

Speaker 2 We need to get him and Magnus in the same room. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 What? Just a one-hour silent interview? They do it all in their head.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 What else, Bub? What's going on? How's Max? How's Shai? How's Paige? Give us an update. Everyone is good.
You know, we're in, as you know, like you're about a month out.

Speaker 2 I'm about two months out from, we're kind of like in the final weeks before we have kids. And it's, it's a crazy feeling.
How are you feeling? Are you nervous, excited? Be honest.

Speaker 2 Share it so you don't wear it. Yeah, I'm definitely nervous.
I wasn't nervous at all. And now I'm feeling just unsettled about the schedule and timing.

Speaker 2 Like I'm generally stressed and Claudia definitely is ready for him to come. And that stresses me out too.
Like I'm definitely, as you know, a pleaser here.

Speaker 2 Like if I can help her in any way, I'm going to help her. And I can't.
For the most part, I can't at this stage. Like, there's just so much.
Like, I can rub her back. I can rub her feet.

Speaker 2 I can make her dinner. It doesn't, it doesn't change.

Speaker 2 She's thankful, but it doesn't doesn't change the like the problem the problem is is that there's a baby in her and he needs to come out so nervous nervous i think is the only way to describe it stressed so normal

Speaker 2 so natural and i will tell you this obviously a c-section is a surgery with its own things and whatnot and and there is additional recovery for sure which we'll talk about off mic just with you know having to help someone who's basically had major abdominal surgery yeah after the birth But I will tell you the upside, as I've had two of them now, and by I, I mean my wife, is that the first time she got induced and she was going to have it, you know, old-fashioned way, down the water side, boom, good night.

Speaker 2 I hold the leg. Let's go.
Old school.

Speaker 2 So my wife labored for like 30 hours.

Speaker 2 day and a half till finally the doctor said it's safest for the baby where we're at right now let's do a c-section the second time we showed up it was scheduled we hung out for an hour baby came an hour later i mean it's kind of gorgeous because that like my wonderful sister-in-law blake she labored for like two and a half days so yeah knowing that it's like scheduled this is going to happen and then as soon as it's done we can start to recover it's kind of great

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Speaker 2 And how long did you stay in the hospital, Josh? How long was Paige in the hospital with Shai after the C-section? So you have the procedure. How long did you stay?

Speaker 2 we for max we stayed long we pushed it they were like you know you could go home or you could like give us another night please we don't want to be alone with this thing

Speaker 2 so it was like three days three nights but with shy i think it was like two days two nights and we were out yeah so i i think they they said that it's we should estimate it to be about three days and what i'm thinking is josh is it inappropriate for me to bring an arrow mattress okay boy logic i don't think at all as long as you're not worried about appearances.

Speaker 2 No, what's wrong with an arrow mattress on the floor?

Speaker 2 I should sleep in this,

Speaker 2 I can't sleep in a recliner, Josh. I just can't.

Speaker 2 They say it reclines fully. I want to be there.
Why can't I set up or a sleeping bag?

Speaker 2 I'll pull up with my sleeping bag. I think an arrow mattress is it.
Or maybe there's a mattress sponsor. I asked the doctor, I'm like, you know, they put these beds in a box.

Speaker 2 Is it weird if I show up with a helix? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Doc, I'm so happy to be here. And so is my Brooklyn bedding.
Yeah. He's like,

Speaker 2 I guess, like, if you, like, it's fine. If you want to, it'll be hard to get home.
I'm like, it's not my problem to get it home. What do you, what are you, nuts? I'm bringing it in a box.

Speaker 2 I'm opening it. I'm sleeping on it.
And then it's the hospitals. At the hospital where we had our boys, the first time they allowed the men cots.
This was great.

Speaker 2 This made me feel like I was at sleep away camp. Wonderful.
The second time, three years later, was shy. They only did recliners and they go, but don't worry.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, okay, here's some, they're going to be able to turn this recliner into, I don't know, a freaking cow king. They go, we give you sheets.
I go, oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it's like, and it's, it's a recliner that goes completely flat. Is that it, right? Not even.
Not even.

Speaker 2 You're lucky if you're 75 degrees. So that I can't do.
That's no, no. No, I can't do that.
I can't do that. No.
I can't even do a futon-esque. That's what I'm saying.
I need...

Speaker 2 I'm going to bring an arrow mattress. I'm bringing bringing an arrow mattress.
Not only that, yes, this is not about her. It's about you, Ben.

Speaker 2 She has a bed. What about her? She has a bed.
And you know what? Spoiler alert. She'll be in it the whole time.
Okay. Okay.
The whole time. Yeah.
And you'll never guess this.

Speaker 2 Do you know in a hospital bed, in the little thing that turns the bed up and down is also the speaker for the television in the remote control is the speaker for the television because they don't want a TV blasting sound in every every room.

Speaker 2 So it really is just up near your wife's head, except what if you're watching, huh? I would say, Paige, turn it.

Speaker 2 Turn the speaker. I like Jeopardy, you know?

Speaker 2 Paige, Paige, wake up. Paige.
Jeopardy's on. Yes.

Speaker 2 I'm missing the daily double. Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's on a four-day winning streak. Paige, wake the fuck up.
Yes.

Speaker 2 They are going to come in every. And here's the thing, right? So you're going to have this baby and you guys are going to be in recovery for two hours.

Speaker 2 And then they're going to bring you back with the child. And then every hour, and it's great, they're going to be coming in with something new.
They're going to say,

Speaker 2 we're going to check the Billy Rubin. I'm going to say Billy Rubin.
It sounds like a kid I went to Hebrew school with.

Speaker 2 Ah,

Speaker 2 the Billy Rubin.

Speaker 2 Billy Rubin. I had one for lunch.
It was only okay.

Speaker 2 And then they want to see the jaundice. Then they come in, they do the hearing test.
That's really cute. They literally put headphones like this on your little baby.
Oh, my God. It's really cute.

Speaker 2 And they can. Oh, my God.
They could see the brainwaves. I can't believe that I forgot to tell you because you recommended the show that I am obsessed with the pit.
Told you. Oh, is it amazing?

Speaker 2 You saw the episode. We're only halfway through the first season.
You saw the episode where you see full vaginal birth. Yeah.
I've seen the whole season. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I was really shook from that. That was like, that was heavy.
Yeah. Just seeing that head pop out.
And then though, they're so graphic. They pop out this baby, so CGI.

Speaker 2 It's the fakest looking kid I've ever seen. But the actual birth itself was so realistic.
So, oh my God, what a show. The pits.

Speaker 2 If you want a pit of anxiety, watch the pit.

Speaker 2 It's unbelievable. It's so, so, so good.
And by the time this episode airs, the world will know that your boy has been keeping quite the secret the last year.

Speaker 2 It's true, your boy was on The Last of Us. That's right.
Episode four, nobody. Yeah,

Speaker 2 hell yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 This is what I do. I go from Oppenheimer to iCarly.

Speaker 2 I do Last of Us. I go Hallmark.
This is me, babe. Don't, I'm not in the box.

Speaker 2 It's called range, Josh. It's important, okay?

Speaker 2 It's called range. Honestly, if you were, I'm only doing Oppenheimer movies, that's not fun.
That's not a cool guy that can hang. You're not pretentious.
No, you're not pretentious at all.

Speaker 2 You're the opposite of pretentious. And that's no, no, okay.
No. Yes.
I'm eating at the five-star Michelin restaurant and I'm also eating chicken wings out of someone's armpit in the back of an alley.

Speaker 2 As you should be. As you should be.
Yes. And I don't mean to say that about iCarly.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 I was going to ask, is iCarly the chicken out of an orphan in that alley? No, no, no.

Speaker 2 It's in the middle of that. It's in the middle of that.

Speaker 2 Somewhere in between. Somewhere in between.
All right, The Last of Us. Thank God.
What was that like, Josh? Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 2 It was pretty spectacular because I got the, it's, you know, much like my Oppenheimer audition where I got the audition and I saw the scene and I was like, I know how to do this.

Speaker 2 Like I felt fairly confident. And then I did, you know, five or six takes and I picked the best one and sent it.
And I remember specifically going, that was good. I think that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 But I don't get shows like this. So

Speaker 2 no problem.

Speaker 2 You know, call me when Roku wants to waste another million. And so, no, it was cool.
It was fun. That one.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 I think Radio Shack's putting out a new show.

Speaker 2 I mean, this new show from Circuit City, it's called bugging.

Speaker 2 No one watched it. Josh,

Speaker 2 we have a great new show. It's a Home Depot original.

Speaker 2 That's so good.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. It's all about finding America's best welder.

Speaker 2 America's best welder.

Speaker 2 That is too good.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. Oh my God.
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 And Josh, I don't want to steal your spotlight, but I haven't told you. I've been going on a couple of generals.

Speaker 2 Tell me more.

Speaker 2 They're not nothing's happening. Okay, nothing's happened.
Okay.

Speaker 2 But I've been having some general meetings. For those that don't know in the industry, a general is a general meeting with a production company.
I've had a couple of them.

Speaker 2 We're trying to find something for me in the food space, Josh. Love it.
And I had a great meeting yesterday. They're like, Netflix is looking for somebody just like you.

Speaker 2 I'm like, what are you smoking?

Speaker 2 That's amazing.

Speaker 2 Can you, can you shut the fuck up? Like, why are you lying? Why are you pretending that that's true?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Netflix is looking for a morbidly obese, slightly balding man with atrophy that like kind of cooks, but also like has a mid-size following on social media. That's what Netflix is looking for.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 that is so good. Yes.
Yeah. They said that they're looking for men in the home that cook.
That's what Netflix is looking for. I said, that's me.
I said, that's me. That's me.
I love it.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Like, the homemaker, the male homemaker. The male homemaker.
That's me. Male.
That's me. Yeah.
It's interesting, right? Made men.

Speaker 2 There's something there. Yeah, good men.
Good men of the home.

Speaker 2 I like like good men yes for cisgender males who watch netflix in their 40s yes yes it's good men home home good guy good men home good men housekeeping

Speaker 2 no i see i see it all there it's very clear it's very clear i think it's my big break i think it's i think it's it

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Speaker 2 Well, The Last of Us is out. People can watch it on the HBOs.
The people, they love it. They love this show.

Speaker 2 I mean, I spent like three days up in Vancouver shooting it, and I got to say it was pretty.

Speaker 2 It's nice when you know something's good because you rarely get that when you're like, I've convinced myself that some garbage was good.

Speaker 2 You have to you have to trick yourself.

Speaker 2 Of course you do. Of course you do.
And you have to be proud of everything that you're doing, right?

Speaker 2 But when then you get booked on something like The Last of Us, a real just, that's a real household name. It's fantastic.
Fantastic. It was cool.
I will give a little bit of insight.

Speaker 2 It was funny because the scene that I auditioned with, it's like this long kind of three-page monologue-y scene. And so I auditioned and then a few weeks later, I got the part.

Speaker 2 They were like, well, you're not going to shoot for another month. So they send me the updated script and it's almost identical to the audition scene.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, okay, I'm working on it, working on it. And in the world of TV, in a month, you'll probably get eight revisions of the script because they're constantly making it better.

Speaker 2 They're constantly having to adjust it because an actor falls out. They lose a location.
They have to change something for storytelling.

Speaker 2 And so I realized like a day before filming, I'm like, oh my God, I've never gotten an update of the script. And I have like a lot of lines.

Speaker 2 And so I get this pin in my stomach of like, I've been practicing with the wrong lines. This is bad.
So I call the assistant director.

Speaker 2 I said, Hey, I just want to make sure, am I working off the right script here? Because this is the one I have. And he goes, Yeah, that's the one we're shooting tomorrow.
You're good.

Speaker 2 And I was like, Okay.

Speaker 2 And then I walk on the set and Craig Mason, the great executive producer, creator of the show, brilliant guy. He looks at me, he goes, Hey, what if I had changed everything on you last night?

Speaker 2 And I said, Craig, I was worried you did. And he looked at me and he just went, I don't work like that.
And I got to give him a lot of credit. It was really, really special.
What a treat. All right.

Speaker 2 Well, hopefully we get more of those, Josh. Yeah, more naches.
More naches. Nachis, non-stop naches.
Should we get to a speak pipe really quick?

Speaker 2 Because I think there's one pertaining to what we've been talking about already today. Yes, I love a speak pipe that pertains to what we've been talking about already today.

Speaker 2 And if you want to pertain to something we've been talking about, send us a speakpipe at speakpipe.com/slash good guys. Keep it brief.
Brevity is key. We like advice, questions.
We like questions.

Speaker 2 We don't like your what are you nutses. They're never great.
Here's from Anonymous.

Speaker 5 Hi, Joss and Ben. We're two months in Moran's here.
Hey, good guys. And we had a quick question.
It's just a conversation we have about.

Speaker 5 And we just like wanted to know your feelings on home birth, on water birth, on a hospital birth, a birthing center.

Speaker 7 BHBH, both your beautiful wives are pregnant. So, we're just curious, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 And, like, we just wanted to know, yeah, okay, looking forward to hearing from you.

Speaker 2 Cult of

Speaker 2 what a gorgeous accent. Muncie Morons.

Speaker 2 The most gorgeous. I'm obsessed.

Speaker 2 Love them. What do I think of a home birth? What are you, nuts? Like,

Speaker 2 what do I think of a water birth? What are you, nuts? And call it what it is. It's a condo birth.
You don't know.

Speaker 2 Totally. It's a rental birth.

Speaker 2 It's a sublease birth, okay?

Speaker 2 It's a Prius birth. Call it what it is.

Speaker 2 You rented an Airbnb for your birth for the pictures. We know you don't live there.

Speaker 2 It's a Range Rover sport birth. I mean, not anymore.
Okay, let's see. Yeah, no, I think that anything out of the hospital is nuts.
If it happens, it happens.

Speaker 2 But I would much rather be in a place where I feel that people can take care of her just in case something goes wrong, wouldn't you? First, I want to say to our Muncie morons, shout out.

Speaker 2 Thank you for listening. For anyone who doesn't know, Muncie is the home of an extremely religious sect of Orthodox Jews.

Speaker 2 And I also want to say, I'm so sorry that you've now been excommunicated because they found out you used modern technology.

Speaker 2 That being said, I have the utmost respect for people's wishes and desires with their birthing plan.

Speaker 2 And I agree with you, Ben, but I've had to slightly evolve my feelings on this since having kids and seeing what women go through, and they should be entitled to do it the way they want to.

Speaker 2 What I would say is that there are places like birthing centers that are not traditional hospital settings, but they're, you know, you can do the pool thing.

Speaker 2 You can do certain augmented things that you want, but, but.

Speaker 2 I think knowing, as my wife has had to have a C-section before, knowing what can go bad and how quickly, I would advise people to find a way to do it extremely close to a hospital. Totally.

Speaker 2 I just, what are you, you playing with fire now?

Speaker 2 Like now?

Speaker 2 I don't know. It's just, I, to each their own, but it's just a complete what of ye-nuts to me.
It's complete what of nuts. You know what else else I found out, Josh?

Speaker 2 Do you know that you actually, there.

Speaker 2 There was a time where we delivered breached babies vaginally, not, and not so long ago, there was a doctor i think it was at like cornell hospital who was known for delivering healthy breached babies it is something that you can learn to do did you know that so now i have a question josh how much money do they make from these c-sections i mean they cost a hundred grand see see so is it just a whole oh baby's breach gotta go c-section or is it baby's breach gotta go c-section because that's money for the hospital josh

Speaker 2 i would say that i imagine it is safer, but we are not doctors and this is not medical advice. So what do we know? I would imagine it is safer.
We know nothing. We know nothing.

Speaker 2 We know nothing.

Speaker 2 And on a serious note, in arguably the most developed country with arguably the greatest advances in medical care in the entire world, we have one of the highest mortality rates for women getting sick C-sections in the world.

Speaker 2 And that shouldn't be. I didn't know that.
Wow, that is another. Look at these statistics.
Joshi Stat. Josh Staten Stat.
Joshi Staten.

Speaker 2 Cholesterol meds.

Speaker 2 God, do I feel a sense of like, when I take my cholesterol meds at night, I want a round of applause because I look around and I go, can you believe what I'm doing here? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Can you believe how grown up I am? And that you're just in a beautiful routine. I feel that way in the morning, too.
I wake up. I have my beautiful AG1.

Speaker 2 I take whatever supplement I'm feeling that day. By the way, I'm off dose.
I told you I was off dose. I think it made me itchy.

Speaker 2 I think I had, I think, I think I accidentally, because I take, I didn't realize that the number one ingredient in dose is turmeric.

Speaker 2 I already am popping 500 milligrams of turmeric every morning because it's good for inflammation. I found it great for my sinuses.
I've been doing it for six months. It's great.

Speaker 2 But when I added the dose, it started to get itchy. I think that I was ODing on turmeric.
So I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 2 Of course, you have the one side effect they don't mention.

Speaker 2 Itchy, itchiness, itchy, like just

Speaker 2 so itchy. I couldn't believe it.
I was like, why am I so itchy? I didn't take dose for two days. No more itching.
They're like, could cause weight gain, diarrhea.

Speaker 2 You're like, I'm just feeling a little itchy.

Speaker 2 I just

Speaker 2 have an itch. My leg is itchy.
That's it. I wonder if there was a gniacin, anything that brings blood to the surface, because that can make you kind of itchy.
Interesting. Interesting.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, routine.

Speaker 2 yeah i always applaud myself on my routine makes me feel good i didn't give you crap about this i think it was with the great episode with your lovely wife but dose was a liver detox dose is a apparently it is yes a liver detox but it's also just supposed to help with like brain fog all that stuff that's apparently what dose is i guess it's all the effects of a clean liver even though my liver is clean as a whistle all right i'm not going to attack dose i am going to say that the do you know what the liver does?

Speaker 2 Tell me to educate me. It detoxes you.
So,

Speaker 2 okay, but and if you have a dirty liver, we have to look up dose, okay? Olivia, can we find out exactly what dose does? I don't want to throw them down the tube. Some people really like dose.

Speaker 2 It's not, no, dose is great, but is it? It made me itchy. I don't know what dose is.
I have no idea what dose is.

Speaker 2 What I'm saying is the idea of all detoxing is hooey. It does not exist.

Speaker 2 Unless very specific, Like if you have mercury poisoning, you can go to like an infrared sauna and like literally sweat out the mercury.

Speaker 2 Like there's some versions of that, but you can't, it's like detoxing bleach. Like the liver is the powerhouse detoxer of your body.

Speaker 2 Also, the number one way to, and the number one way to detox is to not eat whatever you were consuming that you need to detox. Like when I had mercury poisoning, I didn't go in the sauna.

Speaker 2 I stopped eating tuna. I ended up totally fine.
Also, not eating in general is the best detox. And sorry, Olivia.
You have dose?

Speaker 3 I do. I have it pulled up here.
It is a clinically backed formula for optimal liver support, it says. And it is supposed to use real ingredients that cleanse your liver of unwanted elements.

Speaker 2 That was the description that they have.

Speaker 2 I think it's just a shot of turmeric. I think that's what dose is.
I think it's turmeric.

Speaker 2 in a in it's delicious it tastes like orange juice that's how you know it can't be that good for you if it tastes like orange juice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just think what I've heard is that, because a lot of people try this with hydrotherapy and this idea of detoxing, but literally your kidney and liver's only job is to detox you because you need to be detoxified every day.

Speaker 2 And I would say the only real version of toxicity to a liver is fatty liver that comes from being overweight, from eating bad foods. But you can't detox that to your point.

Speaker 2 You just have to completely change the way you eat. Yeah.
Yeah. You have to stop being such a big fat fatty.
That's what you got to do. That's what you got to do.
So, yeah, no dose, no dose.

Speaker 2 I love it. When those liver enzymes are up, I'm like, that's it.
Here comes the Ozemps.

Speaker 2 You know, should we do another speak pipe? Yes. Okay, this one's from this one would actually be a better question for the points guy, but I thought we could take a swing at it from Tatum.

Speaker 6 Hello, I'm a college kid and I'm wanting to get my first credit card. My dad has really good credit card history.
We have like a joint bank account or whatever that helps my credit, I guess, somehow.

Speaker 6 Because anyways, I just want to know what are the pros and cons of a credit card?

Speaker 2 Should I ever get a credit card?

Speaker 6 Should I get a credit card?

Speaker 2 What credit card should I get?

Speaker 6 Should I get a student credit card? Should I get like an airlines credit card? Because I do travel, but it's only like once or twice a year. So is that worth it?

Speaker 6 Could you explain like in layman's terms, interest and all of that crap?

Speaker 2 What the? Thanks, bye.

Speaker 2 Okay, look, I don't want to scare off Gen Z because we, the fact that we have Gen Z listeners is very exciting to me. Okay, so welcome.

Speaker 2 Thank you for calling in college student who doesn't have a credit card yet. I don't know why you thought that we were the right people to answer these questions.
Josh has sort of hinted at that.

Speaker 2 I will say that the reasons that you should have a credit card are endless. The more credit that you have, the better, because the number one thing for credit rating is ratio, right?

Speaker 2 So you don't want to have a $10,000 line of credit and use $9,000 a month because even if you pay it off every month, your credit's going to be shit because your ratio is off.

Speaker 2 You want to find a way to build towards having $100,000 in credit lines, but only using $10,000 a month or whatever the number is so that your credit percentage of use is low.

Speaker 2 That's what leads to a high credit rating. I guess I was the right person to ask about this, Job.

Speaker 2 And the higher your credit rating, the easier it is to get a cheaper lease on a car, maybe less down, maybe a better mortgage.

Speaker 2 Maybe credit is what like people use to say you are a person that we should trust. So honestly, I was the perfect person to ask and you're welcome.
You really were.

Speaker 2 Some other benefits is that if you, as the great Brian Kelly, the points guy would say, and you should just go to the points guy for really any good advice on credit cards, everything you buy should be getting you points and if you pay in cash if you use a debit card you're not getting points for your purchases it can go towards travel which by the way you don't travel you know yeah don't ever say that again oh oh i got the delta amex for my two flights to milwaukee a year what

Speaker 2 are you talking about

Speaker 2 that's why by the way josh they should a proud sponsor of the show is built and if you get the built card shout out built built allows you to take those points and redeem them towards rent.

Speaker 2 Hello, that's fantastic. You need to pay your rent.
You can also redeem points towards a mortgage. So yes, 100%.
You should get a credit card that earns you points.

Speaker 2 Would recommend Built because that'll, even if you don't travel, you rent.

Speaker 2 And you can't pay your rent with any other credit card except Built because Built will actually write your landlord like a cashier check.

Speaker 2 They'll send them a check and then they'll still let you use the credit card. Exactly.
Pretty

Speaker 2 points. It's fantastic.
And with a credit card, you get protections. For instance, I was in Atlanta the other day.
Bingo. Yes.
I quickly, this has never happened to me.

Speaker 2 This is a great fear of mine unlocked, and I didn't even know it was. I wanted to get cash to put in the envelope for the lovely couple, Lauren and Camden.

Speaker 2 Shout out the wonderful Lauren and Camden for their wedding, which now I look like a complete schmuck. Why? I run into a target to use their ATM, and it says, Okay, great, no problem.

Speaker 2 We're going to dispense funds. I hear the ATM doing the ATM thing.

Speaker 2 Cash door doesn't open. No cash comes out.
Oof. Receipt comes, deducted.
And you know, you know, I'm nice. So deducted, 600 bucks.
Nothing came out. Nightmare.
Nightmare.

Speaker 2 What else is a nightmare? It was only 300.

Speaker 2 I flew to Atlanta. What do you nuts?

Speaker 2 But I'm like, oh my God, what a terrible feeling. So I'm like, whatever.
I'm going to send it after the wedding. I can't.
I was already running late. I took a picture of the machine.

Speaker 2 I took a picture of the receipt. I called Visa, who's the one who has my debit card.
And they were like, great, we'll look into it. But until then, we'll credit you the money.
I'm like, you will?

Speaker 2 It's like, you trust me? Like, yeah, we have to. We have to.
Yeah, no, it's amazing. Like, for fraud, for sure, Josh.
You're 100% right.

Speaker 2 If somebody gets your debit card digits and spends six grand at Target, good luck.

Speaker 2 Good luck. But if that had happened on an American Express, no problem.
That would be super easy.

Speaker 2 Speaking of weddings, quickly, before we get to another speak pipe, my sister just got married and she called me and she said, You know, a random guy, I won't say whose side they were on, I won't say a random guest put $77

Speaker 2 in her pocket. Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 320s, a 10, a five, and two ones tucked it in. What are you nuts?

Speaker 2 Save the seven. Is that a version of Chai, though? No.

Speaker 2 It's loose change!

Speaker 2 It's what she had on her!

Speaker 2 77!

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 2 I thought that was nuts. And then she looked at your beautiful sister and said, there's none where that came from.

Speaker 2 All right, next speak pipes from Anonymous.

Speaker 8 Hi, good guys. Love the pod.
I wanted some advice on how I could spice up my announcements on the plane, especially when we land.

Speaker 8 Usually after giving this bio about the baggage claim and all of that, I say, once again, welcome to Dallas-Fort Worth. We hope you enjoy your time here in Dallas or wherever you're headed.

Speaker 8 What else could I say to make it a little more jazzy or a little more good guys approved? Thanks.

Speaker 2 Welcome to the Big D, baby.

Speaker 2 Love that, right? I like that. Or, oh, that's fun.
I love a flight attendant. What a cool job.
I'd love that, except I would hate it. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I would hate it. It actually sounds like the worst job ever, but it's really cool because you get to fly everywhere.
But like having to deal with me on a plane, like, can I have more tea?

Speaker 2 Totally.

Speaker 2 I don't need that. But yeah, welcome to the Big D home of the Texas Diet Coke, Texas-size Diet Coke.
Everything's bigger in Texas, including you. Do we get to our what are you nuts? Yes.

Speaker 2 Our what are you nuts moment of the week is our gripes with people, places, and things, both big and small, whatever, sticking in your craw. What do you got, Ben?

Speaker 2 I went today to get a salad, Josh. Okay.
I left my apartment. I was walking around.
I was in the mood for something. I was thinking maybe a chopped, maybe a just salad, one of those.
Okay. I go.

Speaker 2 And when I tell you the line outside of chopped, and this is just a regular run of the mill, it's not great. It's fine, right? It's fine.
Josh, line wrapped around the block. What are you nuts?

Speaker 2 You're waiting for 20 minutes in line for a chopped salad from chopped? I just couldn't believe it. It's very corporate.
It's like one of those lunch break run to the place.

Speaker 2 Just, I wouldn't wait in line for something that was hyped up, let alone a chopped salad from chopped. I thought that was nuts.
Order eats order Uber Eats or something. Totally agree.

Speaker 2 Waiting in line in general. What are you nuts? My what are you nuts moment of the week is lucky numbers?

Speaker 2 Okay. Oh, it's your lucky number.

Speaker 2 Who cares?

Speaker 2 What are you nuts?

Speaker 2 Oh, 12. My lucky number.

Speaker 2 Muscle.

Speaker 2 Grow up.

Speaker 2 Like, Ukraine's at war.

Speaker 2 And you like the number four?

Speaker 2 Give me a break. What are you doing?

Speaker 2 Also, like, why is it your lucky number? What happened, honestly? Because if you play your lucky number in Lotto, you're not winning. My dad has been playing his lucky number in Lotto for 60 years.

Speaker 2 Zilch.

Speaker 2 First of all, lucky numbers are ridiculous because of probability mathematics. But also, it's just like these little things like your favorite number, your birthday.

Speaker 2 Oh, November what? Who cares? I love that.

Speaker 2 I don't care. Yeah.
Oh, it's going to be in November.

Speaker 2 November what?

Speaker 2 I don't care. November 8th.
Oh, I'm the 12th.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't care. I have no interest.
No, thanks. I have no interest.
And you know what else, Josh? I don't have interest in you giving us anything less than five stars. What are you nuts?

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