The Royal Wedding of Taylor and Travis

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I'm sitting here with the rabbi who's going to marry Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.

It's Ben Safo.

Oh,

I like that.

We haven't spoken about it, by the way, and I know it's a little bit dated, but look, they're not getting married for a long time, so we can still talk about it.

I'm Schepping Machus Mazal

Mazalto.

Mazalto.

Kelsey and Swift.

Look at him.

You imagine?

They're going to need a lot of guys to lift him in the chair during the horror.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, they are.

I wonder, do we know how tall she is?

I know she's tall.

Is she like six foot tall?

I don't mean that for her.

For her, they would only need one person, but for him,

I'm just thinking Palm Kid.

At least.

He's at least 260.

Isn't he like 6'7?

He's a big boy.

Yeah, they're gonna need, by the way.

They don't even need that many people.

I was heavier than that at my wedding.

How was I heavier than Travis Kelsey at my wedding?

And And by the way, it was the skinniest I'd been in a decade.

How many guys did you need to lift you in the chair during Hop and Nagila at your wedding?

Four, four, five big, big dudes, big dudes.

You ever think about that when you were at your peak weight that you were heavier than LeBron James?

Like I used to, I would always think about that.

Like these guys that are just seven feet tall, seven footers,

bigger than with no muscle.

Bigger than with no muscle.

But yeah,

Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift.

And my God, what an unbelievable woman this is.

Giving the New Heights podcast the exclusive so they can get 100 million new listeners.

I mean, this is what a gift.

What a gift, right?

It's too much good stuff.

Like, it just feels so perfect.

It does.

It does.

I'm very, very happy for both of them.

Listen.

And I did.

Did you watch the episode?

Of the podcast?

Yeah.

Did you watch the podcast?

I can't.

Yeah.

I, I, I've never watched it before.

I watched because Claude wanted to watch it.

And what I will say is she, she did a lot of telling people,

like, she almost made it seem like Travis Kelsey plays dumb, but really knows a lot.

She would make like weird comments, like, oh, he actually really does know a lot about this.

It was like both,

I guess, like kind of endearing that she was trying to prop him up, but also like acknowledging that maybe like people think that he

like doesn't know anything.

I don't know.

If you have to, you have to watch it to understand what I'm saying, but it's, it's, it was, it was a little strange.

The rest of it was pretty good, long-winded.

Jason Kelsey's a star.

This man can host.

Holy smokes.

He's great.

And I kept watching.

They also record remote.

randomly he would just smile and uh it reminded me like you're in studio with somebody, and I'll just smile to try and be a part of the conversation, like when he's not speaking.

But it's so random, like, you'll see him just deadpan, and all of a sudden,

like

so good, which I can relate to.

So, let's, yeah, the episode was great.

Let's start taking

let's start taking bets on what we think.

First of all, I've been dying to ask this question since I got engaged.

If out of nowhere, because this could happen with Taylor Swift, Claudia gets a text.

It's Taylor, I know you're a massive fan.

I've just recently come to the toast, but I love it.

Would love to have you at the wedding.

Would Claudia die?

Die.

Like, this is, this is her.

What did it happen?

I don't even know.

This is like her North Star of North Stars of North Stars.

Like, such a die-hard fan.

Been to every concert, every album,

every everything

like this is

i i know every word to like 20 taylor swift songs because of how much she plays taylor swift she love she loves taylor swift so yeah she would she would die she would die okay let's let's let's do some fun guesses here what do we think What do we think the invitations are going to be like?

Are we thinking an evite?

Just a text.

A party fall.

You know, yeah, exactly.

Nice and easy.

Nice green bubble.

You know, T and K are tying the knot.

You know, RSVP.

Do they go spectacular or do they go super small?

I think they go spectacular and I think it's beautiful calligraphy.

I see them like old English, almost like chateau.

Maybe it's, I don't know how big it will be, but I know it will be spectacular.

I bet they go, I don't know why, I think they keep it domestic.

Interesting.

I think that's so her.

I think, like, real to her roots.

He's a good, what?

He's a Pennsylvania boy, right?

Or no, Ohio.

Ohio.

Shout out.

Cleveland.

He's an Ohio kid.

She's, she's from, she's from Pennsylvania, but then she grew up in Nashville.

It's like, I don't, maybe they meet in the middle in Lexington, Kentucky.

I don't know.

Yeah, maybe you're right.

Maybe it'll be more like a farm setting, a Montana, maybe horses.

I could see that.

I could see that too.

I could see that too.

Her like coming out like on a white horse.

Or in a carriage.

Yeah.

Ooh, ooh, yes.

Yes, yes.

Horse drawn carriage.

Cinderella style.

Her father's there with his arm, so taking her down.

She's in a very practical heel.

Totally.

Totally.

Yeah.

So happy for them.

That would be gorgeous too.

That would be gorgeous too.

Did you see the, again, another recent wedding.

You saw the Logan Paul wedding.

Were you invited to that?

I wasn't.

I've seen vestiges of it.

A lot of my friends went, and I've also, I saw that they did a live podcast from the wedding, which I was like, respect to the Paul hustle.

No, their hustle game is insane.

Unreal.

They're unreal.

They're the polar opposite.

That's why they popped into my head.

Like, this was live streamed.

This was like, he i think there was like a prime cake like he this is just like he's another he jake jake like boxed the cake or something like they are just professional marketers even on their biggest day yeah it's just i'm i'm actually very surprised that you weren't invited i don't know why i expected i expected that invite it's not right It's okay.

I don't keep up with the Pauls, but

I'm cool with them and I've only had great interactions and experiences with them.

I know the answer to this already, but you never watched their reality show Impulsive, right?

I didn't.

It's worth a watch.

I loved it.

I thought it was funny.

I thought it was interesting.

I thought it gave a very like, it felt like a very real reality show where you really got to learn about them.

I was sad to see that it wasn't re-upped by HBO.

I'm sure it will go somewhere else.

But after watching that,

I ended up liking Jake a lot more than I liked Logan and just saw like a different side of Logan there, at least in the beginning episodes.

And then you sort of see his full arc and then he has his baby and it's sort of translated into this wedding where it does seem like he's just grown up, grown up.

And they're never, they're never going to change.

They're always going to be that way with the marketing and turning every big eyeball opportunity into something that they can sell.

But that's just them.

That's not like an immature thing.

That's just them to their roots.

What I like about people like the Pauls, and in general, I'm attracted to this, is when people are unapologetically themselves, because at least then

you can decide whether it's for you or not.

What I can't say, this is always, it's funny because I love acting, but I've always...

I've always felt like a blue collar guy in a white collar job.

But I've also like, because I've just never, it's so rare that I have felt comfortable or part of the tribe of other actors because there's such an air of pretension that fucking kills me and thankfully with the way media has shifted it doesn't really allow for it anymore unless you are the highest of high actors and by the way like if you're Daniel Day Lewis dog you have earned the right to be pretentious but like For the most of us, it's like, stop it.

We are putting, we are playing dress up.

Like,

are you kidding me?

Like, this is an amazing thing that we get to do.

And I think the virtuous part of it is that we give regular people a reprieve from their life, right?

Totally.

We are storytellers and we can give you an escape from your long, hard life.

And that's great.

But like, give me a break.

We're not like splitting the atom here.

We're playing dress up with makeup and hair.

And it's so silly.

But yeah, I just, I love that there is a lack of that pretension with people like this.

And they're just like, this is so me.

They've leaned in so hard into who they are that it's like, either take them or leave them.

Yeah, they, they do not care.

And watching Impulse, if you really feel that, they don't give a shit at all.

And that's really endearing, weirdly.

It's like, oh, you don't care that much that I know you're real.

Like you're, you're like, just because you don't like their real selves, that's a different story.

But they're real, they're real.

They're real.

That's also my, and I, I'd be interested to hear what you think, but it's why I have trouble with most news people, but, and, and especially these provocateurs from the Tucker Carlsons to the Candace Owens, who she's got a, a lot of mess to deal with.

She is getting sued, sued, sued.

I mean, they're, I mean, they're both absolute nightmares, but totally.

And like,

it's all the people there in those areas.

It's like, if you have to adjust everything you do to what will inflame

a story,

they're provocateurs, right?

If they don't say something crazy, they're not getting clicks.

And thus, I can't even be near you because, like, who are you?

What do you say?

They stand for nothing?

No, they stand for nothing.

But that's exactly what happens when your dollar depends on somebody else giving it to you.

That's right.

The Paul brothers,

I don't know if they have any sponsors.

Like, I know that they now, with, with the fights and all this stuff, I'm sure at one point, like, they, they never needed it.

Their YouTube revenue was so high.

Their sales of their products were so high.

They didn't need anybody's money ever.

Tucker Carlson exclusively lives on other people's money.

And it's so funny the way that he went from, I don't want to go down a rabbit hole with him, but like it went from, I don't know who was paying him at Fox News to now he's clearly being paid by Qatar.

It's like such like a strange,

it's like whoever will pay him, he will say anything.

And that's like the most spineless,

it's awful.

Now looking back on it, it's like, oh, I'm sure somebody was repulsed by him because he was just saying things that somebody else is paying him to say.

Like to have no integrity.

Candace Owens is the same, no integrity.

And that's why I love them or hate them.

It's funny how we're comparing, or I'm comparing Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson to the Pauls, but like the Pauls have integrity.

They have integrity.

They don't give a shit.

They don't give a shit at all because

they don't need to give a shit.

They don't need you.

Yeah, it's a really fascinating thing.

I think the whole, I'm just very...

careful with that kind of stuff.

And any like comedian who then transitions into being a political comedian, I'm like, just be honest.

Like you found Elaine and, you know, make your living, I guess, but it's like, you didn't choose this.

Like if you could have been Seinfeld, if you could have been Bill Burr, I mean, granted, like Bill Burr gets a little political, but like if you could have been,

you know, Sebastian Maniscalco and selling out Radio City 10 nights in a row by just being a regular comedian, you would have.

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Ben, you're almost done in the Hamptons.

Tell me.

Are you done?

Are you ready to get back to that big broken city of yours?

No, I'm kidding.

The reason I'm not done is because, Josh, I've been getting some golf lessons out here.

It's my same guy in the city.

He comes out here.

My golf game is so unbelievably good.

Wow.

I am getting so good.

And I live eight minutes from the course in the city.

It takes me an hour.

I'm not ready.

I need more golf.

I need more golf.

I love it.

I love it.

And I have the itch and I'm addicted.

I think the way that you, you need to go to Equinox.

I wish that I had that habit.

I need to hit a golf ball.

I don't need to be on a course.

I'll even just practice.

I'll go to the driving range and hit balls because I've hit, I've like, I've reached that point where like I'm loving the shots that I'm hitting.

So no, I'm not ready to leave.

And Ruby loves it here.

He's gorgeous.

He's now a little over three months.

He loves the great outdoors.

He's smiling at me.

I look at him.

I smile.

He smiles back.

That's so fun.

He tracks me.

I move around.

We talk.

He'll go, ooh.

I'll go, whoo, he'll go, hoo.

And I know, I know that he hears me and I know that he's responding to me.

Sometimes I'll walk over to him and I'll who and he'll hoo back.

And it's just so cool.

It's a who and I'll ha.

And like, it's so, and he'll and I'll yeah.

That's funny.

That's funny.

And

Claude is thriving out here.

She's like recovered so nicely post C-section.

She's just killing it.

So, no, I'm not ready to go back.

I love it.

Don't go.

I know.

I know.

Give up your plan.

Do you ever dream of that?

Whenever I go to a place like that, I'm just like dug in and just loving it and feeling it.

I just imagine never returning.

I do, but I have gotten like a bunch of texts over the last week from my friends.

Like, are you ever coming back from off the grid?

Like, we've really had an off the grid summer.

And so I'm sure that it will be nice getting back.

But yeah, no, I would, I would love to just stay here.

It's not real life, though.

It's not like, like, I have to go back.

I have to.

see my parents, even though they're living it up in the Galapagos.

We'll talk about that.

In the Galapagos?

Yeah.

What?

Off the coast of Chile?

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

My parents are in the Galapagos, off the coast of Ecuador, I believe.

We were going to Key West and we went too far west.

This is Key Far West.

I'm on the Easter Islands.

You've seen the totems?

Yeah, they're they're fully in the Galapagos.

My mom, she's adventurous for sure.

And, you know, she just dragged my dad And then my dad has a great time.

That's weird.

They went on like an organized trip for 11 days.

I got a video yesterday of my mom making tequila.

Like she's like, they're thriving over there.

But I need to see my parents.

My parents need to see Ruby.

These are the things.

I'm tethered to the city.

I'm tethered in the best way.

I love it, but I can't live here.

No, I can't live here.

I want to.

I see you in the Hudson Valley.

I see you in northern Jersey.

I see it.

I can feel it.

I can hear it.

And those parents of yours, it's time for them to get out of the city too.

Let's get you a compound in Boca.

They do need to get out of the city.

I was actually looking the other day.

I've never thought about it.

Have you been to Long Beach or Atlantic Beach or you know where that is?

Of course.

There are just gorgeous beachfront condos in Long Beach.

Not expensive at all because this is a seasonal beach.

But like my mom loves the beach.

I don't know why she wouldn't live there.

Like the city, you don't get like they have a beautiful apartment, but you don't, you don't get anything.

You don't get that.

They love the beach.

My mom will go to the beach in 30-degree weather just to like look at the waves.

She loves it.

Yeah.

And yeah.

So maybe, maybe, Josh, maybe.

Who knows?

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Others, however, believe that menopause gives them the clarity to leave their unsatisfying marriages.

Wow.

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Good for you.

I'm perimenopausal.

What did you say?

I'm perimenopausal.

That means rode menopausal.

Okay.

I get hot flashes.

Same.

I'm always hot.

God.

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If Paige leaves me in 15 years,

that would be so.

Forget the kids.

For me, me at 50 without Paige, not good.

I'll just be at AA meetings in hometown buffet.

It won't happen.

I'll be at the Sizzler in Equinox all day.

It'll be bad.

I'll just overeat and then I'll work out too much.

It sounds pretty great, honestly, but it won't happen.

It won't happen.

You guys are rock solid.

It's a lovely, just, it's gorgeous.

And your gorgeous kids, it's gorgeous.

These women with their menopause,

that doesn't sound right.

Say more, Ben.

Wow, interesting.

Olivia,

these women with their menopause.

I am a fan, though, of if your relationship isn't right, people love to say, oh, stick it out.

Who cares?

Like, just be, no, you should, you should enjoy every moment of your life, right?

Like, of course, there are ups and downs and you should try and stick it out.

But if you've tried to stick it out and you don't like it, you should leave it 80.

I don't believe in this whole, like, you should stick it out for no reason.

You should enjoy your life.

Like, right?

Olivia?

I agree.

I think, um, I mean, it's kind of like we've talked about birth control and like the hormonal effects before of how like if you go on or off it, it'll like impact how you feel towards your partner or like pheromones or whatever.

So, I'm like, it makes sense that, um, like going into menopause, you would also have that kind of shift, but that's also terrifying if you've been in like a solid relationship forever.

And then, I mean, for the woman, too, like, oh my God, I can't stand this guy anymore.

So, God forbid that that happens.

But I agree with you, Ben.

Like, if you're, I think there's something to be said about like sticking it out and doing the work.

Like, if it's somebody, you know, but not like to a point where it's like just you know, suffering, it's just unnecessary suffering.

Yeah, I don't, I don't think so.

Yeah, um,

that said, it's significantly better in that situation to be the woman than the man.

The poor guy, imagine like one day your wife just looks at you and hates you.

Ugh, that's probably the worst feeling in the whole world.

That was

pregnant for eight months.

Eight out of the 10 months, I was like,

What

is are we over?

And she was like, No, but get away from me.

And I was like,

Are we over?

Dude, she did not like me for like most of 2024.

I didn't like me.

Um, well,

well, um, on this trend, hot 65-year-old grandma says she only has eyes for younger men.

They're more energetic and positive.

She's on the prow.

65-year-old Leslie Maxwell has proved that age is really just a number, considering she's single and ready to mingle only with younger men.

There's no denying that Maxwell looks incredible for her age, so much so that strangers often think she's her 21-year-old.

Is this Ghillain?

I mean,

she looks pretty good.

She's a cougar in prison.

I mean, look, Olivia.

Oh my God.

Let me see.

I don't know.

She's ripped.

She's ripped.

She's ripped.

She looks great.

And she's attracted to a young fit stud somewhere between 20 and 40.

Last time I checked, I'm 38.

Yeah, totally.

She did say something in there, though, that I thought was interesting, which is more positive, which is interesting.

Because I guess, yeah, the older you get, the more negative some get.

But

uh

i thought that was just interesting but yeah of course you want to be with somebody younger especially when you're fit as a fiddle and everybody your age is just a big ball of goo

like

i get it which but isn't that a double standard because if that was a 65 year old dude saying that about a 20 to 40 year old woman i feel like people would be like what a creep They would, but it depends on what that guy looked like.

Is this Brian Johnson?

And like he looks 20 when he's 65?

Like, you know, like, or is this, yeah, if it's Bill Belichick saying it, it's creepy.

But if it's like the like

somebody who's ripped and has like perfect skin and really takes care of themselves and like,

I don't know,

is younger?

Jeff Goblin.

Wow.

Wow.

Olivia.

I've never seen you so sure of yourself, Olivia.

Excuse me.

We got to introduce her to Jenny.

I can't do it, Brian.

I can't see

That's funny.

That's funny, Jeff Goldblum.

It is.

It is.

I wouldn't have picked him.

Is this inappropriate to ask?

Is he with Ethan?

Do you have hall passes?

Is Jeff Goldblum your home bass?

You know what?

We haven't had the discussion, but I might have to now before this episode airs.

It's just so fascinating that we went from like Paul Newman and Clooney, and now it's like Jeff Goldblum.

And

I don't know who else.

I don't know.

All I know is Jeff Goldblum.

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Let's hear from

Oh, this will be a good one for us.

Moron 101.

Hey, good guys.

Huge moron here.

Love you both.

Josh, thanks for listening to all the moron speak pipes.

I know it takes time, so shout out to you.

I wanted to get your opinion on this.

Tell her to say that.

What do you think are the boundaries between being a good girlfriend and like slipping into more of a mom slash caregiver role?

I've been with my wonderful boyfriend for over two years.

We live together and I keep keep catching myself doing like little mothering things and he calls me out on sometimes too, like getting annoyed.

So do I just need to know my role and stay in my lane, be the fun, supportive girlfriend who gives blowjobs and keeps it chill?

Or is it more me or maybe even expected to do some domestic stuff like laundry or dishes, cooking?

You know, like we have a good balance between all that, but like I'm definitely more like, let's do it, let's get it done.

So curious what your take is, not just for a two-year relationship, but in general, like what do you guys expect or appreciate from a girlfriend you are living with also i want to add at the end so you can cut it out if you need to but i'm a teacher and my students i'm a third grade teacher my students are obsessed with your intro song and they know all the words and josh i loved your book love you guys thanks wow okay first of all we always say keep it brief brevity is key that was that polar opposite that just got better and better So Blowjob came out of left field.

Could you imagine, though, ever ever saying, you know what, less blowjobs and no chill?

Yeah, no.

Wow.

I want to start with the end, though.

Josh, do you know kids love our theme song?

They love it.

Jackie and Zach's kids request it every time they're in the car.

They listen.

They love it.

I'm just saying, I don't know.

Maybe we're the new two.

Maybe we could be the new Miss Rachel.

Okay, on this girl, I need to know what these like mothering things are, but like

what doing some laundry?

Like if she wants to do some laundry, why would he have a problem with that?

Like he, she said that he like came down on her and like said it was annoying.

Like I don't understand that at all.

Like I cook for Claudia.

That's like a domestic thing.

I love doing it.

She definitely does more laundry than me.

But like we trade things.

I don't know.

That's like...

Division of labor.

Yeah, that's like part of being in a relationship i think is doing things for each other outside of just blowjobs

which again really caught me out of left field i just

um

right i think that i think he's wrong i think she's right she seems she seems funny too i don't know what do you think funny and normal i think that um i think there's a bad I have two answers, and I think both things can be true.

I think men who allow themselves to be overly

taken care of or in quotes mothered by their girlfriend or spouse i think are losers um agreed and i want to be like get it together boss like i

like you you spoke about you and claudia like i don't really do much of the cooking but i like i do my own laundry And I, and I really like cleaning and vacuuming and doing that stuff.

And then Paige loves, like, that's part of her love language.

I can see, like, sometimes she'll like spend two or three hours in the kitchen making a meal and I'd be like Paige like it's not worth it

it's not worth it your cooking sucks

Paige it's not worth it your food tastes like ass

yeah

I'll leave with that one no her cooking's amazing but I'm such a dumb goat of a man that I can also be happy with chicken and rice from flame broiler like you know what I mean like sometimes I want to be like babe like don't go through the stress like I, but it's, I, I know that she is showing love

through taking the time, right?

You know what she's also doing?

It does.

I do the same thing.

She also is cooking for herself.

Like, I, I make nice meals for everybody, but I also make them for me.

Like, even if it is a chicken and rice, like, I love, like, I love garnishes.

I love small chopped veggies.

I love, like, somebody would look at a chicken and rice bowl and then mine with whatever it is, diced onions, peppers, parsley.

And that's because I like making something special for myself.

So maybe she's done, she does that too.

But yeah, I think that it's, it's definitely cooking's a love language for sure.

For sure.

It's like we love giving gifts.

Like that's a, we perceive it as a gift, but it's also a little gift for yourself.

It's nice.

And I will say, and Ben

and Olivia, please tell me your thoughts on this.

And this is me being completely transparent and honest, giving a, what I think is my own, but a male's perspective as a married stiff for many, many years.

Whether you want to or not, completely up to you.

If

you can give us just like a flash every couple of weeks, a month or two.

of what it was like when we dated for the first year, it will go

so far like yeah yeah it means so much to us when we just get a whiff of that fun and fancy free

when when the bjs were flowing no i'm kidding but like

but you know what i mean like i do i get it man life gets lifing and like kids and work and life and stress and that is so understandable like 98 of the time and and i would say that probably it probably goes both directions But just as from the male perspective, like if you can just give us like a whiff of that every couple of months,

I think it goes a long way.

Yeah, spontaneity is huge.

I do think that setting them up to be spontaneous, though, without needing to worry

is on us and it makes it easier.

Like one night, just like

not even telling her.

booking a babysitter or calling Paige's mom, having a dinner reservation locked and loaded and just going and doing like, then unlocks her spontaneity.

Like, she's less spontaneous because she has 2,000 things that she didn't have to worry about when you first started dating.

So if you eliminate those things, I think it frees her up to be spontaneous.

But yeah, I totally agree.

It's incredibly important.

Got to keep the sexiness alive.

Olivia, any thoughts?

I think just like the point of spontaneity, and I think like what you said of like trying to give a flash of like what it was like in the early stages, I think that applies to like both genders for sure.

Yes.

Um, and I think also both genders can be overbearing at times too, like, and give the mothering or like parenting kind of you know thing.

So I think it's just like um good to be mindful of that.

And like life happens, and like you said, just you know, try to inject like some fun and levity where you can.

But life gets busy.

So yeah, I agree with you.

It does get busy.

It does.

Passing a spy year after year.

So true.

Okay,

let's hear a fun one from Elise.

Hey, good guys.

Big fan here, part of your Gen Z non-Jewish fan base, and I would like your advice on a situation.

Me and my best friend, as a high school graduation gift to ourselves, went backpacking through Europe for three weeks, and the last stop on our trip was Croatia.

And so the last night in Croatia, we went on a bar crawl and then went clubbing.

And in the club, I was dancing with this Scottish guy who I was very interested in and by the end of the night we ended up making out

but my best friend she's in a relationship at home and so she couldn't really be with anybody and also from our hostel this guy who was probably around twice her age had been on the bar crawl with us but then kind of stayed with us at the club for a little longer than what would have been normal so by the end of the night we decided to go home because of what was going to make my friend feel the most comfortable but I would have liked to hang out with the guy I was with for a little bit longer.

Anyways, so I got his Snapchat and we've been kind of talking since then.

And he just texted me that he'll be coming to my hometown in September and that he would like to meet up.

So the first part of my question is, should I meet up with him or should I leave this as just, you know, a thing that happened in Croatia?

And the second part of my question is if we do meet up, should I make him take me out to dinner and kind of make a date out of it?

Or should we, you know, just meet up wherever?

Anyways, I would love to hear what you guys have to say and I would like Olivia's take as well.

Thank you.

I don't mean to turn you into an example because you're one of our beautiful Gen Z non-Jewish followers.

Oh, I want more of you.

I want more of you.

That's it.

Brevity is key.

Why did you tell us about your friend and the creepy older guy?

I was expecting something to happen.

Nothing happened.

Now you're saying that you had like a nice time with this guy and now he's coming to the States and you want to hang out.

Great.

But why do we know about your friend who was in a relationship and then there was a creepy older guy that was there for too long?

Why do I know that?

Why do I know that?

Why do I know that?

That's the key.

When we say brevity is key, that's the part of the story that you could have eliminated.

Honestly, what people should do, Josh, people should start typing up their what are you nutses or not?

What are you nutses, their speak pipes, put it into Chat GPT and say brevity is key?

Okay, that's a prompt.

And they would abbreviate it.

That's your fucking prompt.

That's your prompt for ChatGPT.

It's so easy.

Type it all out, whatever you want, your whole McGilla.

All of a sudden, brevity is key.

They spit it out.

It's nice.

It's fantastic.

Hi.

Olivia, she asked for you, so you can go first.

Okay.

I think that you should meet up with him when he comes to your hometown.

But I would say like, go on a date.

Like, go out somewhere.

Like, show him around your town.

You know, like, I don't know.

It sounds like, I mean, you both met.

while you were both traveling.

So he wasn't able to like show you around Croatia because he's from Scotland.

But I'd say like give him a tour of your hometown.

Show him what America is about.

Like have a fun time.

It might not go anywhere.

So just like enjoy each other's company and like make a good memory.

This is a gun store.

This is a cracker barrel.

This is the ice cream.

This is someone who's, you know, bent over from Fentonel.

Show him the real American way.

Yeah, look,

go somewhere very public.

I don't know.

I don't trust this Scott.

He just TV.

I don't know.

You met out.

It was a night.

The Snapchat of it all.

I don't know.

Right?

I thought you were like Chick-fil-A.

Can't we go to you or

my Scottish accent is just Mrs.

Dapfire.

And we love it.

Oh, let's go to In-N-Out.

That was Jamaican.

That was Jamaican.

One.

Let's go to InN Out.

All right, the sixth one's from Kaylee.

Hi, Josh and Ben.

My name is Kaylee.

I am from Missouri.

And this is more directed towards Josh because I know he loves a good Cracker Barrel visit, which, dude, same.

I wanted to know how you felt about them getting remodeled.

I feel like the whole point of Crackle Barrel was like that

rustic vintage.

I don't know, like just the vibe was like there.

And now they're just like completely whitewashing it into like that modern farmhouse vibe.

And so I just wanted to know, what do you think?

Also,

love you guys.

The pot is amazing.

I just had a baby six weeks ago and I just need you to know that you two literally have gotten me through the past six weeks.

So thanks so much.

Bye.

Folks, we've seen it time and time again.

We've seen it time and time again.

It's the expression, Josh.

Do you know the expression?

No, I don't.

And I don't want to hear it.

You do, because it's true.

Do you know the expression?

You can make money.

Go woke.

Go broke.

So stupid.

That's the expression.

Shut up.

No,

what this really is, honestly, is

and I'm so happy that they changed back the logo.

I thought that was really smart of them.

What this is, is just going towards minimalism, and I'm not here for it.

I don't like that we're stripping color.

We've spoken about that on past podcasts where you look at like an old McDonald's and they had like the greens and the jungle gyms and all this stuff.

And it's now just this like gray box.

Like the same thing happened with Jaguar.

It went from this gorgeous logo to this just like ugly typeface.

Like we think that, and I see it in Spritz Society too, you think that you need such drastic newness to generate sales, right?

When When you need, you just needed a campaign.

You just needed a David's Protein

cod filet campaign.

You just needed a Sydney Sweeney campaign.

You just needed, you needed to be better marketers.

Changing your logo has never, ever, ever generated the

sales that one is looking for in that type of a, that's the only reason you do it, right?

You do it to refresh the brand, so people are reignited about the brand.

But I think that that comes through marketing campaigns.

So

I'm happy that they changed it back.

I'm personally, I've never been to a cracker barrel.

I could give two shits.

Okay.

But if it was a brand that I loved, if it was a restaurant that I loved, and all of a sudden they changed their logo and I was a big fan of it,

I think I'd be upset.

Was it overblown?

Probably.

But I don't know.

I'm a fan of nostalgia.

I'm a fan, like that feeling that you get when you've been going somewhere for 20 years.

Like, don't take that from people.

Like, let them continue to feel nostalgic.

Totally.

I think you, you put it perfectly.

I think you're, you're dead on.

I, I, I think that people like to polarize this and make this a political thing.

But the reality is, and Jaguar and Cracker Barrel are perfect examples.

And you, tell me if I'm wrong, Ben.

A company has never said we need to do a refresh when sales are through the roof.

Never, right?

Never, ever, never, ever.

Unless they do something tiny.

They'll They'll do something tiny that you didn't even notice.

But yes, totally.

Yeah, they never had their best calendar year and suddenly they were like, we need a new logo.

Yeah.

Let's redo everything.

Well, that's what was so weird about Cracker Barrel.

Like I was reading, their stock was strong.

Their numbers were good.

Like, that's why this was so strange.

Like, I don't know why they changed things.

Maybe they were trying, or they said that they were trying to attract a younger audience.

Sorry, Cracker Barrel.

You're not going to do that by changing your logo.

You're going to do that by changing your menu items or doing a collab or being fresher.

But yeah, changing your logo is weird.

It's like,

I think it was a Woody of Nuts of mine a couple months ago where Cracker Barrel's like big new summer campaign was that they were cooking the food in tinfoil.

They were like, our camp out classics.

And it was, it was just food in tinfoil.

I'm like, dog.

It was.

It was your woody nuts.

And it's weird.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know.

Have offset create a meal or something.

Like, totally.

Like, contact amigos.

Like, what?

Like, you're going to need something.

Have Travis Scott do a collab.

You're not going to get it from tinfoil food.

What would be interesting is if Cracker Barrel played all of us on this one.

Like, I bet you their sales now are higher than they've ever been.

The fact that we're talking about Cracker Barrel, they went back to their old logo.

Like, was this just a marketing ploy?

Like,

I don't know if they're smart enough to do that.

Like, that would be, that would be pretty crazy, but it was kind of like the IHOP, IHOB, April Fool's joke, if you remember that.

I genuinely thought that they turned into the International House of Burgers, like a big dummy.

And I was fucking pissed.

I'm like,

they did what?

They went away from pancakes to burgers.

And this was like before people really leaned into April Fools.

They were early.

And

then it turned out that it was just like a big prank.

Like, I guess they now had a burger on the menu, but they weren't turning into the International House of Burgers.

They were still pancakes.

And then everybody's going in Die Hop.

Crazy.

Crazy.

I have one thing to say about Cracker Barrel.

Very near and dear to my heart.

Same.

Road trip spot always coming from the Midwest, like going down south.

But Ethan and I actually said I love you for the first time in the parking lot of the Cracker Barrel just outside of Knoxville, Tennessee on the way back from the Peach Bowl.

What did that look like?

It looked like us having like two beautiful days in Atlanta, like city to ourselves, and then on the way back,

just stopped for a bite and had a really long drive.

And then in the parking lot, I just said, I love you, dude.

I don't.

And then he said, I love you too.

And then we bought t-shirts at the gift shop.

Commemorate the day.

You should have them.

Yep.

Yeah.

And it's the old logo.

So don't change it.

Yeah.

Two things that we've learned now.

Don't change it.

And if we don't get a cracker barrel deal out of this, that story, are you kidding me?

Unbelievable.

I want to recreate it.

Me too.

Holy smokes.

Love at a Cracker Barrel episode title.

We found love.

Love at a cracker barrel.

We found love at a cracker barrel.

We found love at a cracker barrel.

All right.

Last one is from,

let's see, let's make it short.

Let's make it nice and

short.

From Noel.

Hi, good guys.

Huge moron and toaster here.

Excuse my heavy breathing.

I am like 38 and a half weeks pregnant and feel like I'm going to die.

My question is regarding baby names.

So my husband and I typically disagree on girl names.

This is our fourth baby coming, our third girl.

And he's really specific on a name that he wants.

But my question is,

who really has the final say?

Because I feel like,

you know, we go through so much as women and I'm the one pushing her out.

And I feel like if he even remotely likes one of my names, it should kind of go my way.

But I wanted to get a males take, obviously, especially both of you.

Congrats on both of your new babies.

Feel free to let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Maybe it's just that like I'm not stubborn at all on that stuff.

Like

who cares?

Like you'll come around to you'll come around to it no matter unless it's like a really fucking stupid name.

Okay, like

like

I don't know curtain or like curtain software is kind of sticky curtains.

Light.

Like it's like stupid name.

If it's a normal name, you'll come around to it.

And honestly, I haven't called, I call Ruby Ruby like very infrequently he has like a thousand nicknames so

right like do you call

i've i've never asked you this do you call max max or do you call me shy shy my my myer wits shaisito yeah exactly ruby i strictly call booby ruby booby ruby booby he's booby he's my booby husband needs to get over himself like yeah it doesn't matter it just doesn't matter in general just stop it.

And if you want it to have meaning, then

say to her, okay,

pick a name with this first letter.

And maybe there's somebody that is meaningful to you with that first letter.

Okay.

Like you can have an R, an N, a T, whatever.

Try that.

See if you can come to a resolution there.

But also, why is he naming a girl?

You're the woman.

You name the girl.

Definitely.

Look, Paige said, I like the name Meyer.

I said, I love the name.

She's like, how about the middle name Lane?

I said, that's a choice.

No.

You got a what are you nuts?

I do.

Our what are you nuts moment of the week are our gripes with people, places, and things, both big and small, whatever, sticking in your craw.

So I was in Houston over the weekend because I'd never done a comic.

convention and when we had the great drake on the podcast he said to me listen i've done a couple of these we've never done one together it would be be great if we went and did one.

And I was like, okay.

So I went and it was incredible.

It was really cool to spend two days meeting people, true fans,

and getting to hang out.

And we got to hang out together.

And I was flying back from Houston to LAX and there was a famous guy.

This guy was good and famous.

Okay.

He wanted a pre-board.

I said, what?

I don't, I'm not sure you're an active military member, sir.

That's strange.

You don't have a limp.

You're in incredible shape.

You're up to your teeth in peptides, you fuck.

Pre-boarding

is what are you nuts?

What are you nuts?

There's got to be.

There's going to be two classes.

If you're in a wheelchair, if you have kids under two, or you're an active military member, go on.

Everybody else, shh, shh, shh.

Back on the line.

What are you nuts?

This guy's like, I really need to pre-board because I don't want to get recognized in the airport.

I'm like, no, your show was on 30 years ago.

You're like me.

No one cares.

No, also, like, you're that, you're that famous and you're that worried.

Why are you flying commercial?

Get over yourself.

Okay.

Like, if you're that worried, you shouldn't be in the airport at all.

Okay.

And he knows who he is.

Get in the line.

He knows exactly who he is.

I need to know who it is.

I'll tell you after.

Yeah.

Wow.

I thought it was going to be Jeff Goldblum.

Yeah.

Okay.

I was exaggerating with the super famous party.

Yeah, but by the way, no, this is even worse now that I know who this is.

Yeah.

Nice guy, though.

I think.

Okay.

My what do you nuts moment is that last weekend,

I ran out of gas.

Wow.

I was driving and I was really lucky.

We were

going to the country club

and I was driving and my brother-in-law, thank God we were driving separately, was driving behind me and going, we're going to play golf and

this stupid fucking car only tells you it's 75 miles when you're going to run out of gas.

It says low one time and I forgot to refill it that morning.

This has never happened to me my whole life.

And I'm driving and all of a sudden my foot's on the gas and the car is not moving.

The car is not moving faster.

The car is moving slower and slower and slower and slower.

So I pull over.

Thank God I drive like the wind.

He drives at a more modest pace.

Thank God he was six miles behind me.

I called him like, dude, you got to go to a gas station.

You got to get me a gallon of gas.

He got, he went to a gas station within 10 minutes, got me a gallon of gas.

I filled it up and was on my way.

That said,

what am I nuts?

Like only

like, It made me question my own intelligence.

I'm even here blaming the car.

This is so not okay.

You can't be a human being in society and run out of gas.

I shouldn't even have a license.

Like, it's just so unbelievably irresponsible.

And I'm nuts.

Okay.

I'm nuts.

My wife will be happy to hear me say, because I've been blaming the car the whole time.

I'm nuts.

No, you're nuts.

Okay.

I'm nuts.

You're nuts.

It's insane.

And I felt so helpless and stupid.

And

yeah.

Okay.

You are nuts.

Let's get into the more pressing issue you and your brother-in-law you left the same location at the same time i i'll tell you why we drove separately we drove separately because uh there isn't enough room for four car seats not what i'm asking you guys you guys left at the same time same time

benjamin yeah it's not that he was six car lengths away.

Six miles away?

You drive like a fucking psycho bro i drive like a psycho but he also drives like a grandpa so there was this is a this is a gap you cannot drive the way you do you literally go over 100 miles an hour you're wild dog you have a kid but it was no no i was driving in the 80s maybe it's helpful

in new york Maybe it's helpful to know these are highways, Josh.

These are highways.

These are 65, okay?

80 and a 65 is no problem.

We were going 70 miles.

So I had room.

It's not like we were going 20 miles and I outpaced him by six.

We were going and I only had like 10 miles left in the trip.

So I had, in my defense, about 70 miles to create that gap, which means that I was only driving about, what is that, 10 miles an hour over what he was driving.

That's good quick math, right?

It is good quick math.

Please be careful.

I promise.

I will be more careful.

I will be more careful.

And folks, you know what you need to do?

You know what you need to do?

You need to rate this episode five stars.

otherwise what are you nuts listen to us wherever you get your podcasts you should watch us on youtube you should share our clips you should drive slower instagram and much slower and when you see ben on on the highway you go like this you shake your hand for me and you go what are you meshuga what are you mishuga what do you want to mean a state trooper what are you state trooper fetish yeah i do they're hot as hell hot with those big brimmed hats mondays turn off your station turn up your body cam so I can get to know you.

Actually, turn on your body cam so I can get to know you.

We will see you

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