Skinny in the City

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Speaker 2 the good guys.

Speaker 1 Mazza Morns, welcome back to the Good Guys Podcast. I'm sitting here with a skinny, skinny mini, Ben Sopher.
God, you flatter me. I do.

Speaker 1 I feel skinny. And that's always like, it's a great place to be.

Speaker 1 I think I'm also just like a little bit hungry. Like I'm currently like, I could use like a protein bar, but I'm currently feeling skinny.
I don't know if you've noticed.

Speaker 1 I've been exclusively wearing these long sleeves. I bought two of them.
Yes. And I think that they're just like perfectly oversized.
They're not gripping on my body. My zip bound is fucking firing.

Speaker 1 And I'm just feeling like a supermodel. You're also in LA.
Is that what it is? 100%.

Speaker 1 Really? It'll make you lose weight in the best way. I think I've been here a week.
I actually think I haven't weighed myself. I'm waiting until I get home.
I think I lost 10 pounds in LA.

Speaker 1 And did you come? I feel like recently we had talked in the pod. I think it was after a weekend of getting shit housed.

Speaker 1 You had said you were kind of like up 10 pounds, but it was like water weight. You had been like having a fun weekend.
So what do you think you're at? Let's guess the number. Okay.
I think I'm at 238.

Speaker 1 238. I'm saying 238.
If I'm back in the 230s, that's low. That's my low on Ozempic.
Right.

Speaker 1 I got to 238 and then I bounced between 238 and 255 when I went off of Ozempic proper and went on to the Canadian semaglutide at half price. Right.
Fluctuated.

Speaker 1 Then I went on bound about a month ago right and let me tell you josh this zep bound is the real deal shout out row this is the real deal shout out row shout out so much easier so much easier shout out united healthcare to get your freaking drugs shout out luigi sorry and let me

Speaker 1 shout out luigi

Speaker 1 and let me tell you this is it's hitting two they say it hits two centers it hits it hits the mind and the belly glp too

Speaker 1 it slows the emptying,

Speaker 1 but then it also, I don't know what else it does. It slows emptying.
Yeah, I think it's just like

Speaker 1 a vivance on like a time release. I think that's just what it is.
I don't think so. No? You sure?

Speaker 1 Well, here, let's ask the.

Speaker 1 Here, let's ask. We can be like John Stamos and use the chat function, even though I don't pay for it.
What is the two part of a GLP2? As in, what does Munjaro do that perhaps Ozempic doesn't do?

Speaker 1 And yes, I call it Moonjaro.

Speaker 1 Moon.

Speaker 1 Okay, a GLP2, a glucagon-like peptide, it promotes intestinal growth and repair, increases nutrient absorption. What? This is not advertised.
No, it doesn't. No.

Speaker 1 So it is a, it stimulates insulin and slows gastric emptying and reduces appetite. It has a central nervous system effect.
But that's what they all do. They all keep pooping your colon.

Speaker 1 That's why you don't want to eat more food and you empty slower. That's what they all do.
So, but there is a, there is a difference between zepp bound and ozempic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I think it's the ozempic's a GLP-1 and

Speaker 1 Munjaro's a GLP-2. No, no, no, I know.
So there's, it's that, it's, you're getting an extra. So

Speaker 1 there's something. there's something second.
There's something, something secondary. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a dual agonist. It's GLP1, and it's a GIP, a glucose-dependent insulinopolypeptide.

Speaker 1 Basically, what it means is

Speaker 1 insulina gomez.

Speaker 1 It gives greater weight loss, better glucose control, and has a different

Speaker 1 side effect profile. That's what it is.
And let me tell you, my glucose is controlled. Yeah.
Okay. I could say it for me.
I'm feeling controlled. Yeah, highly recommend it.

Speaker 1 But I also think, and tell me if I'm wrong, I think we have a higher caliber of ugly people in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Like in New York, you can see supermodels, like proper, stunning, world-class, beautiful people. Yes.
You can also see Uggos

Speaker 1 of a class you've never seen. Yes, for sure.
Cretans. For sure.
Rat

Speaker 1 creatures. Creatures.

Speaker 1 Absolute creatures. They came up from the sewer to get a Kanish.
100%. Right.

Speaker 1 I don't think we have that in LA. I would definitely agree that your bar is raised for the Uggos.
Yeah. And I think it's lifestyle.
I think you're right. I think you walk around.

Speaker 1 It's very much, at least where I'm staying, it's a walking city. The weather's gorgeous.
You want to be outside. You want to just go for these brisk walks.
In the city, it's not as,

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's just like, I still go for walks.

Speaker 1 I'm definitely walking way more more here the weather here is way nicer i don't know what else it is i think that the places are promoting healthy eating more everything's healthier i think that's what is healthier for sure yeah it's just stylized i remember my cousin's wife came here with her son and we went to some place and they were like what would you like in your coffee and she's like just some cream and they go huh

Speaker 1 like just because she's a girl from jersey like just no one had ever said cream i think like they're like we think we have half and half somewhere, but like, we'd probably like to just give you oat milk.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's okay.
So it's not okay. Yeah.
But no, it wouldn't be okay with me either. Wouldn't be okay.
I love that. A drop, literally a drop of half and half.

Speaker 1 It's so small, might as well be, it could be anything. Right.
Just changes the color just a tiny bit.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for you and your weight loss journey. Yeah.
I've obviously been through 2,000 weight loss journeys. Like I go up and down, up and down, up and down.

Speaker 1 But now I think with Zetbound and with these glps i've my fluctuations have been less right i think i've stayed at like that 250 for like the last i don't know two years do you think and you can you can

Speaker 1 tell me i might be being too harsh tell me

Speaker 1 i i definitely think there's been a time you've been around What do you mean? On Ozempic? I don't know what your goal is. Yes.

Speaker 1 But if you said to me, I would like by, like, I want to be 210, I would say you should be already. A thousand percent.

Speaker 1 And I can tell you that it's because I went off of, I don't know what I went on, but I can tell you that I went off of a name brand drug and I went on to something that maybe I'm not going to blame the generic GLP because it definitely works.

Speaker 1 Because it definitely works, but I am going to blame. the dose.
I don't think that I was properly dosed. I don't think I had been taking enough.

Speaker 1 I'm still, still, I used to always say to you, oh, I'm only at half the recommended dose. And it's like, why? If you're really trying to lose weight, why aren't you continuing to up your dose?

Speaker 1 Because if you stay on the same dose forever, it works less and less. Sure.
That's just the way that it works.

Speaker 1 And eventually you max out on one and then you move to a GLP two or something that then would reinvigorate this, like not need to not eat as much.

Speaker 1 But I went to just like a lower dose of a generic GLP. And I'm not going to blame the generic GLP.
I'm going to blame the dose. And I was just comfortable and excited to be able to eat again.

Speaker 1 Like I was taking it. I was nowhere near what I once was able to do, which is a pad thai, a pad CU, two orders of spring rolls, like party.

Speaker 1 But it was nice to be able to eat a pad tie. There's somewhere in the middle.
And I got too comfortable there. And then I was like, okay, you know what? This isn't working.
And I'm getting fat again.

Speaker 1 I need to

Speaker 1 go back on and get properly dosed on a Zetbound. And I reached out to my doctor and I'm like, hey, you know, since being on Ozempic, I've gained 14 pounds since my low.
I need to try something new.

Speaker 1 And he said, great. They're GLP2s, Zetbound, went on it.
And

Speaker 1 it's like the first time I was on Ozempic, which feels life-changing. And do you think that because you're just not, the food noise isn't there.
The food noise came back vigorously.

Speaker 1 It was there. And is it just, do you think also it is sort of the thing they warn about, warn against that the lifestyle change, right?

Speaker 1 Cause, cause like you always make the joke, like, my zet bound, zet bounding, and I'm weak as shit. Yeah.
You know, like,

Speaker 1 do you think that they're, I guess it's like, nothing tastes as good as feeling thin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the truth of the matter is, is that I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who'd be like, I'd rather be 50 pounds heavier with muscle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like inevitably, if it helps you get down to the goal weight, like you can worry about the muscle later. Yeah.
But are you worried about that? Yeah. I, I definitely, I'm very active.
I walk a ton.

Speaker 1 I need to do more strength training. I know that absolutely.
And I like flirt, like, I'll send you a picture once in the gym. Hey, I'm in the gym.
And then I won't do that for two months. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, for sure. But I am very active.
So like, I'm not worried. I'm, I guess I'm worried about like upper body lean muscle mass.
I'm still 240 pounds. So certainly my legs are lifting every day.

Speaker 1 My core is not and my arms are not and my chest chest is not. Right.
And more and more people are saying walking's bullshit. I think that it's more that...
But I love getting steps.

Speaker 1 I feel it's interesting. I get that walking would be bullshit for a thin person.
Yeah, like I think that any physical activity for like a bigger person,

Speaker 1 I certainly feel significantly better on days where I walk 20,000 steps than on days where I sit at my computer. Oh, it's X.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I think it hits different things. It's not for weight loss.
That I know for sure.

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Speaker 1 I just think like every single study is talking about like that the only thing that really helps longevity is like lean muscle mass and holding on to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And no one, you know, there's like a joke meme of the weightlifters or dudes at the gym on leg day and it's them doing pull-ups. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just like, totally, no one wants to train their legs and they are the powerhouse of your body. And

Speaker 1 you will not only increase your testosterone, but you will, your entire body will change from working those gorgeous trunks of yours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, I don't, I can't imagine that I've lost any lean muscle mass in my legs. I'm carrying around so much weight every day.
And like my definition is still there on my legs.

Speaker 1 Like these are big. Boy, is it? These are big.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 I don't know. I I don't know.
Like, I would never go to the gym and work out my legs. I guess when I was doing those squats and the,

Speaker 1 what are those called? Where you're lifting weights and you're squatting. Clean and jerk? No, like.

Speaker 1 Show me. Show me, honey.
The bar's in front of me. I'm sitting down and I'm pulling off.

Speaker 1 Deadlift. Deadlift.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 When I was deadlifting, I guess. You guys just missed my angle and I feel bad for you.
You saw my tushie. Yeah, that was hot.
I guess then I was working out my legs.

Speaker 1 you should be working your your legs yeah yeah yeah dude the look i do these i do a couple hundred of these in between my workout nice yeah spots are good but look no weight no i just knock out 20 of those like if my if my legs were super weak i wouldn't be able to do and i can do good spots sorry again to the angle but i can do good spots

Speaker 1 don't do it for i don't want to have eye contact while you do it

Speaker 1 this is performance yeah it's a yeah it's good it looks good bud

Speaker 1 Costa, our producer, can't stop staring. Don't ask me to do a push-up.

Speaker 1 Don't ask me to do a push-up.

Speaker 1 You're what? Oh, it teaches Alexander technique. I just took a nine-week Alexander class.
Wow. Alexander technique, no joke.
Breathing body. Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1 Jean-Louis Rodrigue and Christophe Conrad, good friends.

Speaker 1 Costa. Excuse me, you know too much.
Well, I am an actor. Yeah, you know too much.
It is the entire instrument. No, it's pretty good.
It's good. No?

Speaker 1 yeah, so yeah, I gotta go back to our friend, Matt, live method.

Speaker 1 He texts me all the time, he's so good. He's like, Hey, when are you coming back in? Hey, when are you coming back in?

Speaker 1 You know, and now that I'm gonna go now, if I'm really 238, I'm running to the gym.

Speaker 1 If I'm really 238, I'm running to the gym. Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 I did last time, maybe.

Speaker 1 I did, maybe

Speaker 1 I can be a real motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Ooh, I can just grind the gears. I turn people off.
You know what? I'm not going to say

Speaker 1 that. I'm going to turn my friendship.
I'm not going to. I might.
You probably won't. I might.
You might. I might.
It's just like one of those things.

Speaker 1 And I try to have like all the empathy and leeway about it. And yet, like, because there's nothing hot about it in the sense of there's nothing.

Speaker 1 There's nothing sexy than walking into that fucking place that no one wants to go. Even the people that go and make a living from it don't want to go.
I know.

Speaker 1 Nothing about that is like exciting or wonderful. And yet, and you get, and you put weight on your body and every rep is just like, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 And you're just like, you're putting in 45 minutes of pain for 23 hours of return. It's kind of what it is.
It's just like, but there's nothing sexy about it. No.

Speaker 1 It's just like what they say about writing.

Speaker 1 Like, I have to do it i really have to like the i went once since i've been here yeah you said you went more did i so maybe i went twice i like when you lie i think i was walking though no like i lifted once it's awesome dude i mean look it's not awesome

Speaker 1 it's not line up again this is me talking to you at two years right like two years of your journey yeah right and sometimes we need like a little bit of that like push off the edge of the plateau to the next yeah i need i just need to fall like i need to somehow i know you're saying that you don't fall in in love with it but i need to fall in love with it like i have friends that have the itch like that that they wake up in the morning and they're like i want to go to the gym and maybe that's like after seeing gains like i've never once seen gains i've seen gains in my legs when we were doing those deadlifts and when i was able to do i think it was like 270 i was proud of myself

Speaker 1 But I've never seen gains in my chest. I could never do a pull-up.
I could never do a push-up. Like push-ups are so fucking hard for me.
I can't do them. You're going to knock them out.

Speaker 1 Bro, I never did a push-up in my whole life. I didn't learn how to ride a bike till I was 19.
What are we just being honest now? Yeah, we are. This is the honesty part.

Speaker 1 In a Costco, I learned how to ride a bike. I self-taught myself because everyone was like, you're 18 and don't know how to ride a bike.
I was like, I know. Yeah.
But

Speaker 1 I had never done a push-up. Yeah.
I worked out with my friend Ronaldo at my apartment complex. He was a trainer.
He would train me for $40 a session because I knew.

Speaker 1 coming in from at 300 pounds, I needed someone to teach me. So I lost all this weight, but I had no strength.
And at 220, I started really working out.

Speaker 1 And he would wrap a towel around my waist and he would hold it. He would like be a hoist, like a crane.
And he would do assisted push-ups with me. He's like, I want you to do the entire movement.

Speaker 1 He's like, but I'm just going to be lifting half your weight.

Speaker 1 And slowly but surely from doing the movement, same thing with pull-ups, right? Pull-ups are a really hard exercise.

Speaker 1 And they have all those machines that do it assisted. But usually the best way is to to have a band around your foot or doing a real pull-up and it sucks.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But to get that, because it's like you need to pull them. No, we do that at the live method.
Matt's good with that.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you just have to want it enough. It's what it is.
That's my pushback. And Seinfeld has that great quote of like, you have to find the torture you love.
Yeah. And that's the key to life.

Speaker 1 And so I love it now too. I look forward to it because I know how I'm going to feel.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But when I'm sitting there, would I rather be having a cappuccino and watching i don't know totally cricket what am i from europe

Speaker 1 you know like than being on like the leg extension machine like yeah but it's so a part of my life now that i what gets me through is knowing the benefits so it's not a big deal but i will say and it's the same thing they say about writing the muse will reveal itself when you do the work, not the other way around.

Speaker 1 If you want inspiration to come when you're not doing anything to summon it, it won't.

Speaker 1 You got to like get over that hump of this sucks. I know.
And a couple weeks in, you're going to get the I had that. If you remember, I had it for like a six month period.
I was really fucking in it.

Speaker 1 And then I stopped going. Literally, you miss a week.
I was gone. Yeah.
I was gone. I missed a week.
I had like work travel and I was gone. I know.
And it just, it's consistency.

Speaker 1 The only thing that I guess is hard. that I enjoy doing is cold plunging.
Like that, but it's not hard. I love it.
Like, I don't think I could ever feel like that with working out.

Speaker 1 Like, like, people think, like, it's not, it's painful for actually a second, and then it's not at all. Working out is painful all the time.
Like, it will be until you do it.

Speaker 1 But I, yeah, I have a lot of, I have a lot of chubbo friends who love the sauna and cold plunge and tell themselves they're working out. Yeah, no, it's not working out.

Speaker 1 It's working out for the brain. I love the way it makes my brain feel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, I'm on a horse's dose of creatine. I should be in the gym.
Yeah. I've been on creatine for four months.
I can see it from here. It's great.
I love it. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 I just think like it, I have, it's amazing what our mind will do to keep us from the things that will make us feel better. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Especially like I'm waking up so much earlier now. That's the blessing of having a child.
You're up and you have. you have more hours in the day.

Speaker 1 I know you have more responsibilities too, but I have more hours and I could easily just peel off, what is it, a half an hour a morning? Like, I don't really need more than that.

Speaker 1 Like, just go in there and just start just to like build the foundation. A hundred percent.
I, I say to my buddy Luca, who goes through the same thing.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, and I try to be really easy with people. I'm like, if you're going from like just a couch body, I'm like, 15 minutes.
Yeah, just

Speaker 1 15. Start with 15.
I'm like, do it on the lightest setting. I'm a big fan of machines because it keeps you at a certain range of motion that you are less likely to be injured.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, and do like four or five sets of like half the heaviest weight you could do. So if you can do 100, 250,

Speaker 1 just knock it out. Yeah, just knock it out.
And like,

Speaker 1 I'm committing to that. I'm committing to that.
I'll send you a picture. The morons will love this.
Yes. I met Len.
You met? Yes. Len and Ben.
My West Coast bestie. And my East Coast bestie.

Speaker 1 At a meeting of the minds, Len and Ben at Shy Josh's beautiful three-year-old son with the most gorgeous hair you've ever seen in your life. This boy is blessed with those locks.
Blessed.

Speaker 1 Three-year-old birthday party. Claudia and I went.
Beautiful Ruby went.

Speaker 1 This was such a beautiful affair. And the fact that it's so rare that you book a trip and then you happen to be there for a milestone.
Like it's so fun and so rare. But it happened.

Speaker 1 And I met the great Len. And let me tell you, this Len also lost a bunch of weight.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a thick boy. And this is a great guy who looked fit as a fiddle.

Speaker 1 He he looks great hockey player how much weight did he lose he's a he never i don't think he was ever bigger than like 230 yeah but he's you know he's shorter than he looks like 170.

Speaker 1 he's thin he's but he's in shape he's a muscular guy yeah he looks good it's been i mean we'll we without giving anything away of of this trip but you know I did feel, I was worried because you guys were supposed to be out here a month.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Then you had to cut the trip short.
Yeah. The people will find out in due time.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I feel spoiled. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 Having had you here, being able to come to my great son's birthday, I was like, wow, I know, this is really great, I know, having extended time together, and it's just like I feel this way every time we do podcasting in person, it's just so night and day, yeah, it's just like it's so much easier, nothing's lost in translation, there's no audio problems, there's no video problems.

Speaker 1 If there is, then the whole thing's fucked, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not only one camera, yeah, and it's just like it is really such a treat, yeah, it is, and you're in my life, you're in my orbit, you're with my people, Yeah. It's just.

Speaker 1 You get to hold that little rubela. We both just need to move somewhere else.
We'll meet in the middle, Kansas City. Sure.
I'm in. Let's go halfway, 1,500 miles each.
Sure.

Speaker 1 We can also meet in Florida. We're not meaning.
Not me. Why not? We love it.
We'll meet at the shingle.

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Speaker 1 We can meet at the Shings. I mean, Florida's fine, but it's been so, it's been so nice to have you guys.
You have to come to Shai's birthday, which we never really have had a proper birthday for him.

Speaker 1 So we did it at our dear friends. They have this event space, the Arena House and El Segundo, which I highly suggest everyone go to.
Highly recommend.

Speaker 1 It would be great for, for you know what it would be amazing for a super bowl party amazing amazing you invite like 50 people a shower spread yeah it's great a shower it's a fantastic spot i loved it and my wife just did it and my wife and i i'm interested my wife and i have done this corny thing she read the book i didn't but we'll sort of talk about our differing love languages

Speaker 1 like mine is canoodley more than once a year sorry but she you know she's like i don't respond well to compliments, which I think is fair. Like that's not for everyone.
So, but I couldn't help myself.

Speaker 1 I think her thing is more like acts of service and, and just quality time, which I, I try to give her the things that matter to her. But I couldn't help myself.
And you know me, I'm a big talker.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I said, Paige, after the birthday party, which she did so beautifully for our Sunshai, I said, everything you do is beautiful, but

Speaker 1 what you do for our kids is especially beautiful yeah when it's for our boys it's especially beautiful and it is because you know she works in design she's an artist so she can you know design a room an outfit

Speaker 1 a logo yeah but when it's for our kids it's just so special and i thought the party was beautiful it was just i felt very lucky that she took so much care to give it to our kids.

Speaker 1 It's the best having a partner that does those things and pays attention to detail like that when we wouldn't necessarily. Like Claudia is the same way.
It's type A personalities.

Speaker 1 Like they, like, they're going to think of everything

Speaker 1 and they're going to tell you one thing to do. And then you're going to do it.
And you're going to feel proud of yourself that you did it.

Speaker 1 But without them, you wouldn't have thought of the hundred other things that they did. Yeah.
And like that is clawed to a T and that clearly was page to a T. I literally, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 I left the party and what did I do? I'm leaving and there's just like a tray of hats. I thought that these were beautiful party favors for the adults.
So I go to Josh.

Speaker 1 I'm like, which one should I take? Which one did I take? I put it on. I'm like, this hat is so small.
Josh is like, you're at a three-year-old's birthday party. They're obviously for the kids.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 But even she like, she bought like six different, it was like rodeo themed. She bought like six different types of baseball hats.
Like it just like. She made them too.
She made them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She bought the hats and then she pressed them.

Speaker 1 She pressed them yeah unbelievable yeah the attention to detail is just fantastic it's i it's so nice to have you guys here and i and it's been cut short a bit it's okay it's okay it's okay are you is there a relief to go back as much as you've been loving it here is there just that relief of going home yes yes we

Speaker 1 look our apartment isn't finished yet which is really why we came out here but we need to go home like really my yeah my parents like need to see Ruby. Like, I just, I love New York in the fall.

Speaker 1 Like, I love it here. I miss it there.

Speaker 1 And we had just moved. Right.
And like, part of it was like, okay, we're going to wait until this is finished. And now it's like, we can live through it.

Speaker 1 And like, we want to be home and in our new area. And like, just like, it's really just like with Ruby surrounded by his immediate family is like, is like really the main thing.

Speaker 1 It's this week and a half has felt like two months. And that's not because I didn't have a good time.
It's just like life with a four and a half month old, like every day feels incredibly long.

Speaker 1 And I'll get a text from my dad, like guilting me, like,

Speaker 1 what are Ruby's eye color now? Or like, what is Ruby, like, can he drive yet? Or like, cause that's like my classic, my dad.

Speaker 1 But like, after a while, it's like, oh, you know, they're not going to see him until he's six months and there's going to be a lot of changes. And so just, just time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also it's sad because I, I actually really love it here. And being able to, again, spend time with you and do the podcast in person is great.
But you also didn't get to set up arriving.

Speaker 1 If you're going to stay anywhere for a month or six weeks, the first week is a lot of busy work. 100%.
You got to pack the house with all the groceries.

Speaker 1 You got to find your spots, get everything set. You didn't quite get that kind of

Speaker 1 sweet spot. I bought all the groceries.
I spent so much money at Target. You have no idea.
There's going to be a whatie of nuts in there.

Speaker 1 I spent so much money at the kosher, but I went, I bought like literally $500 worth of meat. It's sitting in the freezer.
I'm going to bring it to you.

Speaker 1 We're having a beautiful dinner tonight at Josh's house. Can't wait.
Beautiful. The Taylors are coming, Taylor Strecker, and Donahue.
I'm excited to see Taylor Donahue.

Speaker 1 She's like seven months pregnant. God bless her.
Unreal. And yeah, it's going to be great.
We loaded up. We loaded up.
I literally like, off.

Speaker 1 What is wrong with me, Josh? At Target, I thought to myself, you know,

Speaker 1 I've been wanting to pickle things for a while. You bought a pickling in New York.
I've been wanting to pickle. So I keep, every time I go on Instacart, they're like two bucks.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, I'll buy a mason jar, no problem. Because that's really all you need to pickle.
Because you have vinegar, you have salt, you have, you buy the cucumber, and you can pickle things.

Speaker 1 I just need mason jars. Little bill.
You know how many fucking times I've bought mason jars? I bought six mason jars at Target. I'm not pickling.
I have no time to pickle. You want my mason jars?

Speaker 1 Of course you don't. Nobody wants anybody's mason jars.
Only you would pickle on vacation. It's insane.
Wow. Oh, no, I really, I have a disorder.
This would be when the Nazis. I bought it.

Speaker 1 I bought mason jars to pickle on vacation. This is like the Nazis coming door to door during World War II, trying to find the Jews, and they're asking by the Jews.

Speaker 1 They're like, Unsa, have you ever pickled on vacation?

Speaker 1 Heinek, get him!

Speaker 1 Pickled on vacation.

Speaker 1 Oh, also, my sourdough starter that I worked so hard to build is probably dying in my fridge. Do you have a sourdough starter out here? Yeah, no, no, no.
It's dying in my fridge at home.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't bring it. You're supposed to send it.
Have you seen their sourdough starter hotels? When you go on vacation, you give it to the hotel. They feed it.
They take care of it. This is bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is not too much.

Speaker 1 We're living too softly. This is too much.

Speaker 1 I think it's fine. I'll rehydrate it.
It's in the fridge. It'll be good as good as gold.

Speaker 1 It's such a, I mean, my house is so loud by like 6 a.m. Yeah.
And Max comes trudging. Usually at 5 a.m.
is when Meyer wakes up.

Speaker 1 So I pick him up and he's three months and he's taking the bottle and he's just like, this is, he's now had the long stretch. Yeah.
So he slept maybe six hours. So he's famished.
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 And he does, I love this look from the three month old.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's ready.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, relax. And I have to take him out of the bedroom and past both my son's rooms as we go downstairs.
And he's like,

Speaker 1 and I'm like, you're going to fucking wake your brothers. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Then I like get him downstairs. And I put on, I've been really getting into watching TMZ

Speaker 1 because I'm so old.

Speaker 1 I really am an old man at this point that I'm like, this I can get my pop culture from.

Speaker 1 You know, I was thinking in the shower this morning, wouldn't it be great great if somehow we could distill pop culture, TikTok, all the trends, everything that we need to know into a newspaper?

Speaker 1 Yeah. A daily newspaper.
I want to wake up in the morning and read, but I want to read about things that I need to know about. My head is so in my ass.

Speaker 1 I don't, and I don't want more screen time. The only way to get my head out of my ass would be to be on my phone 24-7.
Sure. And I want to find a way to consume that level of media without it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, I deleted X off my phone, and suddenly anti-Semitism's way better.

Speaker 1 Turns out it's not as bad as I thought. No, it's way, it's when you.
It's a fucking cesspool. Social media is the worst place in the world.
Social media is bad. X is like

Speaker 1 a really rough neighborhood. TikTok is also a really rough neighborhood if you're on the wrong side of the tracks.
Sure. If you're in your home, it's great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But if you accidentally step foot in a bad neighborhood, you are doomed. Yeah, you are.
And God forbid you like something in a bad neighborhood, you're there forever. Yeah, it's done.

Speaker 1 You like that analogy? I do like it. Okay, cool.
I thought that was quite good.

Speaker 1 I took it further than I needed to. I get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. Yeah, it's bad.
It's really bad. It's just like,

Speaker 1 and once you're off your phone for an extended period of time, I had that with Yom Kippur. When I was off for 25 hours, you know how fucking great I felt? Really?

Speaker 1 And then the second I went back off it, dopamine, dopamine, dopamine, dopamine. It's a dopamine fucking, just like sandwich.
It's just like, you need it. I saw.

Speaker 1 When you're out of it, you're like, I don't need this at all. I didn't even need to call anyone.
Like, I, I was like, it was great.

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Speaker 1 Saturday night, I went to go see this comedian, which is maybe the first time I've gone anywhere on a Saturday night since Meyer was born.

Speaker 1 And I actually had an extra ticket and i didn't even call you because i'm like claudia sutland i appreciate it yeah i'm like and i had you see uh mark marin okay fun so funny he's really funny and mark we have this theater in la called the dynasty typewriter it's a hundred person theater you want to know what's really hot about it they have popcorn and refreshments as you walk in but you get your popcorn and then they go would you like toppings and i go what do you mean and they go well we could put on rhesus pieces peanut Eminem,

Speaker 1 Swedish fish, whatever you want, gummies. Do you want hot Cheetos in your popcorn? And I'm like, well, clearly for an upcharge.
Like, no, we just do it. Shut up.
Isn't that fucking tough?

Speaker 1 What do you mean they just do it? What do you mean they just do it? It's like, it's not a crazy amount. And they're like, it's incorporated.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, they wouldn't even say it's incorporated into the price, but a $5 popcorn, they're like, yeah, we can give you a dollar of candy on it. That is insane.
Sick. A relic.

Speaker 1 Literally, movie theaters in the city, your popcorn is $14, and then your Swedish fish is going to be another nine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then your soda is going to be $12. Yeah.
And your ticket's going to be $25. They had these IPA drinks.
They had beers.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 It's so dope. And it's.
Oh, sorry. And I was talking about the movie theater.
I forgot that you were at a show. If I go to Madison Square Garden,

Speaker 1 you was joking.

Speaker 1 It's so expensive. You know how much they charge for a pickle spritz society at City Field where the Mets play? How much? $17.29.
What do you clear? For a single clan.

Speaker 1 $2?

Speaker 1 Nuts. Nuts.

Speaker 1 They literally, like, these stadiums, all of them, it's not just City Field, it's everyone. Every single stadium, they're looking for like 1,000% margins.
That's crazy. That's what they look for.

Speaker 1 That's why I like these Savannah bananas. Yeah, I'm sure.
I had a good story about that. By the way, the Savannah bananas are also clearing 1,000% margins for sure.

Speaker 1 But don't they keep the tickets reasonable yeah totally i received tickets are reasonable tickets are reasonable

Speaker 1 everything else concessions i was invited josh to yankee stadium you didn't go no

Speaker 1 no i couldn't you're nuts i know i really wanted to it looks so fun i was like so us like gay adjacent like it's gay adjacent yeah yeah i was at a six-year-old's birthday party the other day and just by myself, not with Max.

Speaker 1 And no, I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 And there's this great Long Island father there. And we're chatting.
The grandfather, right? She's like in his early 60s. Great, dude.

Speaker 1 And we're talking, right? And he goes, you heard of these Savannah Bananas?

Speaker 1 I go, yeah, they're amazing, aren't they? He goes, let me tell you, bro. He goes, four hours of the best entertainment I ever seen.
These guys throw gas and dance like fairies.

Speaker 1 Is it Sebastian Manuscalico? They throw gas and dance like fairies. I was like, hell yeah.
He goes, it was unbelievable. I'm like, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 They made it. They're the best version of the Harlem Globetrotters.
That's what it is. Yeah.
Except like with real skill. Like the Harlem Globetrotters were always,

Speaker 1 I've seen their game. Okay.
I've seen it. Look, this is not, this is not the same level of basketball.
Yeah. The generals are going to lose.
But this is the same level of baseball.

Speaker 1 They're very talented. They're really good.
Fit is a fiddle, too. Like, they're ready to play Pro Ball.

Speaker 1 And a lot of them did play, and then they just kind of did this as the second act of their career, right? Yeah. Yeah.
It's awesome. Yeah.
Oh, the Mark Mary. Where was I going with that?

Speaker 1 We were talking about popcorn. We were talking about Swedish fish.
It was great.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is just a bit, a long-winded bit to talk about your cell phone thing, but it was at the Dynasty Typewriter, which is one of my favorite theaters because it's basically the agreement is people like Mark will work on his hour there, but it's 30 bucks a ticket.

Speaker 1 So sort of the agreement is, hey, you get to come see me work on my hour. It's not finished.
You're only paying 30 bucks. Only paying 30 bucks.
So I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so many great people have performed there. So I go every year to see him and I watch and he was like, what's your screen time? He's

Speaker 1 just to people

Speaker 1 in the audience. He goes, seven, eight, nine hours.
Yeah. He's like, it's most of the waking day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, it's

Speaker 1 over half of your waking day is on this stupid thing. What's yours? It's bad.
I wonder what mine is.

Speaker 1 Mine was find it considerably bad last week how do i find it sorry dad i'll call you back he wants that he would be calling me right now he wants to know if ruby's driving just search screen time seven hours 11 minutes daily time

Speaker 1 october 14th what was that two days my daily average is six hours and 40 minutes oh better than me no but it's not good that's better than me dude mine Let me see.

Speaker 1 Last week's average, although I had to do a bunch of Zoom classes was 10 hours, four minutes.

Speaker 1 The week before, eight hours. The week before, seven.

Speaker 1 Past weeks.

Speaker 1 Just scroll it. I mean, I'm scrolling it.
Yeah, I show you. Oh,

Speaker 1 what week is that? 10 hours, 46.

Speaker 1 The week of September 24th. I wonder what I was doing.
Bad. 10 hours.
But yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 It averages about seven is what it looks like. Better than me.

Speaker 1 But that's really bad.

Speaker 1 we wake up how how long are we awake for 16

Speaker 1 i guess in theory i'm up so early bro i'm up at you are 45. you're up really early

Speaker 1 when do you first start engaging on your phone immediately i mean if there's emails there i'm i'm like what's you're looking at them yeah

Speaker 1 people say

Speaker 1 i haven't I haven't gotten good at this yet. I would love to get good at this.

Speaker 1 People do say that if you wake up and you go through some type of routine for 30 to 45 minutes before you pick up your phone, you have a much better day. You're a little bit less anxious.
I like it.

Speaker 1 Because I'm the same way. I open my phone.
I have a flood of text messages because Claudia and I go to bed at 9.30. Yeah.
So everybody, including my parents, have called me.

Speaker 1 They're like, you're sleeping. Like, I'm watching good guys.
I'm like, I'm sleeping. So go through my flood of texts, flood of emails.
And then I'm already in a rat race

Speaker 1 at 6.30 in the morning. And it's it's just like, I could have started that rat race at 7.30.
Right. It doesn't matter to anybody else.
I could have been up with myself, having a cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's when I go to the gym or whatever it is for an hour before I welcome the entire world into my brain. Yeah, babe.

Speaker 1 I can't, I haven't been able to do it yet, but it's something I'd like to do. Right?

Speaker 1 Maybe. I don't know.
What are we going to start meditating? No, I'm not doing any of this. This is what I was talking to my shrink about on the way here.
Thanks, Tom.

Speaker 1 I was like, you know, there's, because spoiler alert, I'm thinking about getting back on Volbutran, but I was like, I said to him, you know, my capital T truth, there's, I could be doing more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like for my own

Speaker 1 mental health well-being, like there's always more to be done. Sure.
I'm like, but I go to a couple 12-step meetings a week. I talk to you.
I work out five days a week at least.

Speaker 1 I try to do, you know, sauna and cold showers. I'm like, I do a considerable amount.
And I'm like, so is there always more to be done?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like at some point, can I just like take a pill and let myself off the hook? He's like, yeah. Yeah.
You can. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I think you do a lot. It sounds to me like you do a lot.
So if you, if you, if you need, if you need it, then you take it.

Speaker 1 I wish, I wish you didn't need it, but That's like such a Jewish volume. It is what it is.
I love it. Like, I

Speaker 1 that is such such perfect Judaism because it's like, I wish, I really do wish you didn't need it. You're perfect the way you are.
I wish that wasn't at such a BMI.

Speaker 1 That's perfect Jewish parent. You were Jewish parent.
But I really, like, I mean it. I mean it.
And it's just like, I love you for even work.

Speaker 1 I wish you were more stable.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing that you say to me, except harsher. You're like, you're like, I don't really love you for you.
Get in the gym.

Speaker 1 Fuck. I don't know.
You know, I think they're a lazy bastard. My friend always says, does it have to be said? Does it have to be said by me? And does it have to be said right now? Totally.

Speaker 1 And if you check all those boxes off, then say it.

Speaker 1 Who has the time? By the way, we rely on timing. By the time I've gone through that checklist, the moment's automatically over.
Fair. Right? But everything in our life is timing.

Speaker 1 I swear to you, and you're probably like, no, Josh, you speak up more than you should. Like nine out of 10 times, I go, not for me to say.

Speaker 1 Like that person's going to, like, it's not for me to teach that lesson today, right? Because God knows I need to be taught plenty of lessons.

Speaker 1 But I don't, I think with you and I, A, we have that level of friendship and relationship. Yeah.
And like, I don't know anyone else who's going to say it to you. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 1 all right, I'm going to be the one. Yeah, as you should.
How do you get in the gym? And it's also just because that's my like little expertise as being a bigger guy who got in shape. 100%.

Speaker 1 You've shared You've conquered it. You've conquered it.
But you're gorgeous. You're fabulous.
I agree. Honestly, I don't want to put on any weight.
I don't want to put on muscle.

Speaker 1 I like having a lean arm. Nice arm, Josh.
You think I like carrying around these gigantic?

Speaker 1 This is a lean, skinny man's arm. Look at my ring.
Watch this. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 I had too much salt this morning. I lost mine.
Oh, you did? No, I never wear it. I got the tattoo.
Yeah. Oh, that's nice.
Now I always wear it. Should we get to any of nuts? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The headline of this is, I've so loved having you in LA. Me too.
I can't wait for the people to find find out why you are here. Yeah.
And why you're going home. Yeah.
But you know what? I love you.

Speaker 1 I love you more. We're very lucky.
We're very lucky. Fabulous.
We're very lucky. You'll see me on TV.

Speaker 1 We're very lucky.

Speaker 1 See you on TV soon? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Tell them why.
Ben's running for mayor of L.A. I'm on ER.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You get a show before me?

Speaker 1 Mine, I'm in Oppenheimer too. Ben's on the pit.

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Speaker 1 Oh, and by the way, just to talk a little, you know, we've been very tough with each other. Allow us to be tough with you, listeners.
We want to do call-in segments, but you guys are going to have to

Speaker 1 bad. Like, I literally set the foundation, okay? I put it in motion.
We got 100-ish responses. And 99 were really bad.

Speaker 1 It's got to be spicy. Just like or interesting, like just an an interesting story.
That's it. Something for us to be able to talk about.

Speaker 1 So even if you're lightly fabricating, even if it's a friend's problem, no problem. We're not fact-checking.
Okay. There's no follow-up here.
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Speaker 1 Make it up. If it's good enough for a Ryan Murphy show, it's good enough for us.
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We love you. What are you nuts? What are you nuts? I was in Target, as I mentioned.

Speaker 1 I spent $900 million, mattress toppers,

Speaker 1 containers, pickling accoutrements, accoutrements. Just too much.

Speaker 1 I'm in line to check out, and the guy in front of me, he bought, I don't know, like

Speaker 1 a couple of things. It was like $120, Josh.
Sure.

Speaker 1 He's wearing, he's just to set the stage, he's probably 5'5

Speaker 1 white guy. He's wearing a fully printed Gucci hat, fully printed Gucci sweatshirt.
Hell yeah. Louis Vuitton sachet.
The thing is, like it's $110, I think it was.

Speaker 1 He opens up his Gucci, his Louis Vuitton sachet and takes out at least 20 grand. And he just peels off one single hundred from the

Speaker 1 like he's holding a stack of hundreds. Yeah.
like full-blown probably drug dealer like

Speaker 1 peels off one single hundred he had a 10 paid completely in cash i'm looking at this guy i'm like what are you fucking nuts you're in target like why are you showing me the twenty thousand dollars why are you flexing on this cashier that you have like it just like it blew my mind i don't even know what part of it was nuts what he was wearing was nuts the fact that he had that much cash on him was nuts the fact that he was at target paying for 110 worth of stuff with 20 grand on him.

Speaker 1 And he was buying like,

Speaker 1 I don't even remember. It was like gadgets.
It was like a phone case or like a charger or

Speaker 1 being nuts.

Speaker 1 I didn't need to see that. You're going to get robbed.
Good. You should.
I should have robbed him. Yes.
See, if I was going to call into our show, I would have pretended that I robbed him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah.
I saw this guy at Target. He had 20 grand in cash on him.
I beat the shit out of him and I robbed him. Good guys.
What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 I'm afraid he's going to come after me. I'm on the lamb.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's a good.

Speaker 1 And you add sound effects like

Speaker 1 open up. Yeah.
You know, they're at the door. Totally.
You had someone else to do the voice of the U.S. Marshals.
Yeah. Yeah.
We're here. Love that.
Hands up. What do you got? Hands up.

Speaker 1 Wait, let me make sure I didn't forget mine.

Speaker 1 I think I had my,

Speaker 1 oh, mine is, I don't think I've done this one before. Phone number rewards.
No, you haven't. Okay.
Awful. Phone number rewards.
Okay. Listen.
Yeah. Oh, you want to give your number?

Speaker 1 You want to get rewards? No, I don't. No.
No. No.
Because I don't want this text. Hey, you haven't been into Bennigan's.

Speaker 1 Bennigin's is in Milwaukee. I was there for one day.
They can't come in for a sandwich on Thursday. I haven't seen it.
Bennigan's. You know, we're actually doing two-for-one wing night.

Speaker 1 You know, come on in to see the brewers. I'm never coming.
Never. Like, no, you can't have my phone number.
No. and like, I don't need the rewards.
There's not going to be great rewards for this.

Speaker 1 Awful. Rewards programs in general, you just want a mailing list.
Miss me. Yeah, miss me on your rewards.
What do you nuts? Miss me. And Erwan's really sneaky.

Speaker 1 At the end, they're like, oh, what's your phone number? So we can text you when your order's ready. And I gave it to them.
I didn't even think about it. And then afterwards, I was like,

Speaker 1 I did it.

Speaker 1 Now you're going to be getting the Gary Brecca smoothie text. And I don't live there.
Oh, he's the real Woody Nuts. And his smoothie.
I'm sorry. If you are actually

Speaker 1 a credible source in health, you don't have a collab at Erwan.

Speaker 1 That's it. Shout out.
What are you nuts? Gary brecking my balls.

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