Guys: Episode 149 - Eminem Guys with Ryan Stanger

Speaker 1 Welcome to guys, a podcast about guys. I could have done an impression of the guy we're talking about today, but I did not because no more accents.

Speaker 1 No, but you could have done like, welcome to guys,

Speaker 1 you know, you could have done that. I did that once and you made fun of me.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're going to stop doing stuff that I make fun of you? Every single thing you make fun of me of, I'm stopping doing now. I tried to rap one time when we came into the show.
Here. Hey.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian.
Here's Chris.

Speaker 1 Not bad. I mean, it kind of did.
At the end, I feel like it went into that old classic, like, Scott Ockerman style. Like, well, I'm hip hop and I'm here to say like it kind of.

Speaker 1 That's the only rapping I know.

Speaker 1 I know but it isn't any other rap your flow in the beginning was was okay it was okay all right let's get the guest on we have this week from action boys Ryan Stanger hi yo what's up dudes we just had Gabris on like two weeks ago oh beautiful which one which one was it has that one come out yet no

Speaker 1 no well it has well it has now for the people listening but no not in when we're recording this but yeah we

Speaker 1 yeah we do it in this really insane kind of of way. But um, we, what did we do with gym guys, gym guys? Can I say something about the gym guys episode? I told my wife about it.

Speaker 1 I said, I'm telling my wife about it, right? And I'm telling her this story: this guy's walking around in a locker room in his socks and he steps on a big toenail and it breaks his skin.

Speaker 1 It's one of the grossest things we've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Like, he steps like the toenail, it's like a discarded toenail that's sharp and it's sticking up, and he like stepped on it and it went through into him and like pierced pierced his skin.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. Like a toenail.

Speaker 2 Like one of those like some kind of freaky toenails.

Speaker 1 Mine, like mine. Yeah, probably someone with an extra hard one, I guess.
One of those real mangled up, gnarly kind of. They're not mangled up or gnarly.

Speaker 1 I don't even really, I don't like thinking about

Speaker 1 having your skin pierced by a disgusting gun. That's wild.

Speaker 2 Some people have freaky, guys a lot will have freaky kind of, I think it's a fungus, and they look like um, they look like the lost boys. Do you know when they're hanging upside down?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they kind of get they get a little what's that new show? They filmed it here. It's about um

Speaker 1 the last of us. They start, they kind of, it kind of looks, you know, the last of us zombies, how they kind of like fungal kind of like I imagine I've seen some, I've seen some nasty feet.

Speaker 1 Brian, you want to show yours? I'd be saying you got some nasty ones. But one of the, one of the most,

Speaker 1 the most pro the pharmaceutical.

Speaker 1 This is very funny, too, because this guy is such an anti-pharmaceutical. My father-in-law, he actually sent my wife home with a bunch of tea

Speaker 1 and then wrote down all the diseases that each tea cures.

Speaker 1 So like he's not pharmaceutical. He's not into them now.
He's not getting a vaccine or anything like that.

Speaker 1 But back when we first started dating, they had like a pool in the backyard and he would wear flip-flops all the time at the greenest toenails you've ever seen in your life.

Speaker 1 I mean, you have never seen greener toes.

Speaker 1 I guess you just start, you get used to it, and you're like, Well, I guess I have green toenails now.

Speaker 1 Because I think if my toenails turned green, I think it would be like it would be an emergency for me. I would go to the doctor and I'd say, We got to get them these things back to clear colour.

Speaker 2 I think it's like an immediate, we got to, let's sort this out, let's figure it out. Or it's like, hey, you know what? These Tootsies aren't going to see sunlight anymore.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, maybe I'm just going to, I'm going going to go full socks all like Brian mode, where Brian doesn't take off his shoes and socks really ever.

Speaker 1 So that you can do that where you just never show them to anybody. Yeah, I might do that.
If I couldn't afford the procedure, I would just get a lot of socks. And also, you go swimming with him.

Speaker 1 Like he's swimming in their pool back there. And like, just like you're always around these moldy toes.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to get in the pool. Like, I'd be like, oh, man.

Speaker 1 That's the pool I nutted in, too.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I said, that's the pool I nutted in.

Speaker 1 But it floated up, and I took my hands and I went and threw it out. Yeah, that's smart.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Oh, you had sex in there.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, yes, with my job.

Speaker 1 Okay. You didn't just solo J-O.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. It was the most humiliating experience because I don't swim.

Speaker 1 Okay. And I jumped in the pool with

Speaker 1 jean shorts on.

Speaker 1 It sounds like the worst porno ass ever

Speaker 1 long jean shorts too. You know, he's

Speaker 1 struggling to keep his head above water.

Speaker 2 As somebody that does swim, here's my first tip I would give you. Don't swim in denim.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's an above-ground.
It's not like a sexy situation. It's like an above-ground pool that's like in the backyard of a house in like suburban Ohio.
Like not

Speaker 1 sexy. And

Speaker 1 let's fucking do this thing. I jump in.

Speaker 1 My jean shorts are floating next to me.

Speaker 1 And I finish. And then I like I never considered the finishing part.
Like I never considered, oh my God, that's going to have to go somewhere.

Speaker 1 To be honest with you, when you're really getting into it, you rarely do consider that. Right? You just kind of in the mood.

Speaker 2 Well, I think you do sometimes consider the finishing part.

Speaker 1 I mean, it depends on it. Listen, man,

Speaker 1 I guess the sex you're having just isn't quite as animalistic as mine, Ryan.

Speaker 1 When I'm in the throes of passion, I'm just like,

Speaker 1 hey.

Speaker 2 Sorry?

Speaker 2 You don't think about like, where do you want me to finish?

Speaker 1 I mean, I do. I mean, I guess I like, listen.
I mean, it is.

Speaker 1 I only have sex with my wife. So it's kind of...

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 You only do two. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 You're trying now to one-up me. You're going to pretend to cheat on your wife.

Speaker 1 I'll win the one.

Speaker 1 I'll get

Speaker 1 forced to win this.

Speaker 1 I'll cheat on my wife all the time. By the way, everyone, we're doing M ⁇ M guys today.
Who cheated on his wife, probably. So, Brian, I was just, yeah, just trying to ease you.

Speaker 1 You know, some people do. They do like.
Well, but anyway, I nutted

Speaker 1 and it comes up. It looks kind of like a lava lamp situation.
Yeah. In the pool.
Like, it just comes up and I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, people are going to swim in this, especially my father-in-law with his moldy toenails. I'm going to take it and throw it out.

Speaker 1 So anyway, I was bringing up the moldy toenails is because then he goes to the doctor. He gets this lamicill.

Speaker 1 And if you'll remember the old commercials with the green mold that would jump under the toenails and be like, oh,

Speaker 1 he gets prescribed this stuff. It's gone in two days.

Speaker 1 Like he doesn't have moldy. Well, he probably has them now because he's not taking any medicines.

Speaker 1 Was it topical or was it

Speaker 1 a pill? It was a pill. So he just had to take a pill a couple of times for like one and a half days and he could deal with it.
Instead, he just walked around with nasty.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've ever seen green toenails. I don't know that I've ever seen in real life.
I don't think I've ever seen them. I don't know if

Speaker 1 I have. You know,

Speaker 2 that kind of shit that you take for that, to kill whatever that is, that's where they lay it out for you. Like, look,

Speaker 2 this is going to rip apart your spleen and your pancreas. And there's a good chance you'll die, but it will, it's going to kill that fungus.

Speaker 1 So that's all I want.

Speaker 1 It's worth it often. I sort of imagine.
Yeah, like I think you take the risk. But honestly, I don't know if it's going to kill you again.
Just buy, just put socks on, just wear socks.

Speaker 1 Just for time and just

Speaker 1 wait. I guess there's probably, it's probably bad for you as well, right? It's probably not just the fact that it's green.
It probably is also potentially could survive.

Speaker 1 I mean, anything visual with me is an immediate fix is a fix like anything like I've got just got my teeth fixed They weren't really visible.

Speaker 1 You couldn't tell that I was missing some teeth, but like I still got them fixed if my front tooth was missing I I would have gotten the fence right away. Yeah, yeah, but instead I waited now.

Speaker 1 I got it all done anyway. We're doing M ⁇ M guys.
Ryan, did you ever have an M ⁇ M phase? Oh, yeah. I loved him.

Speaker 2 I think at the peak of his... So I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 So I really liked him when he was funny. I liked that kind of.

Speaker 1 When he was a bit goofing off a little bit.

Speaker 2 Goofing and playful, you know, where he was having fun. And then once he did maybe like post-Green Mile, and I was even, or sorry, Green Mile.

Speaker 1 Green Mile. He was really good.

Speaker 1 He was good at that.

Speaker 1 Him playing the fucking role of the guy.

Speaker 2 Like him as Michael Clark Duncan when he helps

Speaker 2 Tom Hanks sort out his fucking gonorrhea or whatever he's got. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's gonorrhea, right? It's not a bladder infection. It's full gonorrhea.

Speaker 1 I don't recall them.

Speaker 1 I remember loving that movie as a child, but I. I do love movies about gonorrhea.
No,

Speaker 1 I was going to say I don't remember the gonorrhea part.

Speaker 2 It's not. It's not gonorrhea.

Speaker 2 Tom Hanks' character has a really bad bladder infection and has trouble urinating. And then it's this strange thing.

Speaker 1 Eminem helps him out with that.

Speaker 2 It's this strange thing where Eminem

Speaker 2 in the character that Michael Clark Duncan played in the movie

Speaker 2 helps it, like he puts his hands on his fucking genitals and it freaks him out, but then he opens his mouth and like all those bugs or whatever fly out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the famous scene, the bug mouth scene. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And you just like, when you first watch and you're like, what the, is this fucking sci-fi? Like, what is this? And then you ultimately figure out it's some kind of magic this guy has.

Speaker 1 And then you go look it up a little bit and you realize, oh, it's fucking, it's Stevie King is at it again with his crazy ideas. And then it starts making a bit more sense.
Well, I think like

Speaker 1 one of the things that, you know, there are two phases of his career. And there was the phase where I liked him.

Speaker 1 And then there was the phase where he got inspirational.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So

Speaker 2 I think I'm the same as you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
No, I'm not doing that. I'm not going to get inspirational with Eminem.
I don't think so. The one thing that I do recall, though, that was pretty,

Speaker 1 it was pretty ever-present in his early playful stuff that wasn't so playful was his constant

Speaker 1 all of his song lyrics about murdering his ex-wife.

Speaker 1 I think that was, I do remember that as being like coming up a lot, but then it was sort of like, yeah, the rest of it was all pretty playful and silly.

Speaker 1 And, you know, he was goofing around and stuff like that. But then he'd do one where he's just like,

Speaker 1 I'm going to genuinely kill my ex-wife or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sorry.

Speaker 2 I guess if you look back on it, you're like, yeah, okay, this was a platinum hit that is basically just a threat to murder his wife.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't say

Speaker 1 that. I'm sure.
Yeah, there's been a million bits about it. People have talked about it endlessly.
I'm sure

Speaker 1 how absurd that is and how ridiculous it is. But you're right.

Speaker 1 His general demeanor back then, otherwise, was the kind of, you know, hi, my name is that like video that he came up, you know, became famous.

Speaker 1 There was like a, he was a comedy rapper in a lot of ways. He was doing like funny lyrics and stuff as well.
I mean, Detroit is, now I'm going to get on my high horse because I know something.

Speaker 1 Detroit is like a place where there's like the rap is like a lot more playful and different. Like, that's where ICP is from.
Isham the Unholy. So you think ICP is ICP considered hip-hop?

Speaker 1 They rap. Okay.
Yeah. I don't know.
I'm not going to dare you.

Speaker 1 I wasn't meaning to offend you and your nephew.

Speaker 1 My nephews are both Juggalo rappers. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I just wasn't, like, I don't know if they're classified, but yeah, I, I,

Speaker 1 but I'm saying, like, some of the guys, like Danny Brown, uh, like, a lot of those artists were, like, a little weirder than,

Speaker 1 like, the rest of the country. So Eminem.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Eminem's funny because I think that's the, the, Kid Rock. Like, that's the place he was, he was brought up in.
It's like this weird.

Speaker 1 So although he's the opposite of Kid Rock politically, everybody, he endorsed Kamala Harris. And believe me, we'll have some posts later that are really questioning his decision.

Speaker 1 Oh, no!

Speaker 1 I love Eminem's freaking threads.

Speaker 1 It's one of the greatest timed threads of all time.

Speaker 1 I just want to say, yeah, I was a huge fan of Eminem.

Speaker 1 Brian doesn't ask me. I don't care about Eminem.
He doesn't even care about my opinion or what is going on.

Speaker 1 But I was huge into it. I mentioned on an episode that I had like a Valure suit and bleached my hair blonde.
Like, I mean, I was

Speaker 1 seriously like, Eminem is my favorite artist in the world for probably about eight months or so. So it wasn't something that ever stuck around too long for me.
But I definitely was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, like when he was the most famous, you know, I just like bought into it completely. And I was just like, holy shit, man.
This guy fucking, this guy is like so good. And he's friends with Dr.

Speaker 1 Trey. Like, that is insane.

Speaker 1 i was the same way and i only listened to metal at this time oh wow because like the only music i like is like corn or like that like that was that era but he kind of crossed over into that like everybody that i knew well a lot of my friends hated him but my friends were idiots though like all of them every last like i think sean liked him uh

Speaker 1 Yeah, Porto Sean liked him. And Nate, I think, liked him.
I think Theo hated him, but Theo was slightly racist. so uh but which if you're racist

Speaker 1 it's weird right that's i don't think that's slightly racist that's not slightly racist if you're too racist

Speaker 1 you're too racist to listen to eminem i think that's very racist

Speaker 1 i didn't consider it uh anyway let's take a look at uh this guy posts on r slash m he says dre i'm down here under the ground dig me up and uh there's a meme of the the kid that's like focusing really hard and he's got the veins.

Speaker 1 And it says, Eminem trying to go five songs without mentioning Dr. Dre.

Speaker 2 First,

Speaker 1 I just wanted to read this. He goes, realistically, he should mention him more.
Hip-hop is founded on the work of DJs and producers. The original purpose for MCs was to hype up the DJ.

Speaker 1 If you listen to old school rap, it's much more focused on my DJ is dope, his cuts are so raw. And I'm not as focused and not as focused on I'm so amazing, I spit straight fire.

Speaker 1 MC's talent is bragging, but it was better when he was bragging his homie up more and not centering everything around himself. Hey, listen, man.

Speaker 1 I started off being like, oh, what a goon this guy is, but I guess there's something like, because the DJ, the person that's making the music behind it

Speaker 1 deserves a lot of the credit for it. And yeah, if they're not, but I think they still do get mentioned in songs.

Speaker 1 Definitely like in the like, maybe at the end of it when they're just doing a bunch of the, you know, when they're shouting out and stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He, I, he's also like, he's right in the sense that, like, look, when Eminem needed credibility, he talked about Dre all the time.

Speaker 1 It was like, hey, look, Dre likes me.

Speaker 2 I've been vetted. And then once he's got an Oscar and all that shit, all of a sudden you don't hear about Dre that much anymore.

Speaker 1 All of a sudden,

Speaker 1 it's like he forgot.

Speaker 1 I got it first.

Speaker 1 Listen to this guy, though. This guy, you can tell this guy's really young, I think.

Speaker 1 He just goes,

Speaker 1 Because if you look up Dr. Dre, Eminem songs will appear from his name being in the lyrics.

Speaker 1 Okay. Eminem search engine optimization.

Speaker 1 His SEO is so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got insane SEO. Dr.
Dre, I mean, listen,

Speaker 1 probably a lot of you, maybe a lot of young people do know Dr. Dre is like the guy who Eminem knows.
Right. Maybe that has kind of gone that way.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that Ebony mentions Dr. Dre, so that when people search Dr.
Dre, everybody's going to be able to do that. Oh, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 Oh, they think that

Speaker 1 he's doing it on purpose.

Speaker 1 He's doing SEO in his songs. They're just like, okay, can we change this lyric? Just like that will shoot us up about three to four pages on the search results if we could just toss it.

Speaker 2 He's got like a team. He's got like a team.
Marshall, we had a couple of thoughts about, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 being connected to Dre and if there's something that if we could get his name in the chorus maybe it would connect you to him a little bit more.

Speaker 1 On the other hand, DRG, maybe D.I. I noticed that you're talking about going to the doctor in this lyric.

Speaker 1 Maybe the doctor is a certain doctor we know.

Speaker 1 I mean, it would be funny if that was true, and every one of his songs had like,

Speaker 1 I'm like Led Zeppelin or

Speaker 1 Metallica.

Speaker 1 He just always names a more

Speaker 1 really famous, like, holy shit, Charlie Kirk isn't, you know, like, just like every, just like every single song is meant to.

Speaker 1 This guy goes, uh-oh, this is a new post.

Speaker 1 I love new MM. The submersible.
Like, you know, when that shows up.

Speaker 1 This guy, this is a new post. He goes, I love new MM as much as old Eminem.
I wish more people appreciated New M. Do y'all like new MM? I don't know.
No, he's asking R slash MM.

Speaker 1 So probably some of them do, but probably some of them don't. Because

Speaker 1 I don't know a lot of, I know his Trump, but like, that was where I found out Trump was orange.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Was was when he did the Trump song, but I don't know a lot of his new songs.
I don't like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm trying to think of the last one that I read. I'm Not Afraid.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah, I guess I've heard that. I've heard that, I guess.
Like, I've heard that. Toy Soldiers? In a store, I guess I've heard I'm not afraid.
I've heard it in a store, maybe, right? Like

Speaker 1 grocery shopping in a store.

Speaker 2 They love to play it in stores.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm not even joking. I've heard it in a store.
Not a grocery store, but in a store. That's where I've heard it for sure.
Like a clothing store or something.

Speaker 1 But they played it at my physical therapy appointments.

Speaker 1 That's what his new music sounds like. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I think after Eight Mile, that's what I was trying to say earlier. It was like,

Speaker 1 and I listen,

Speaker 2 I liked Eight Mile song.

Speaker 1 Lose yourself.

Speaker 2 Lose yourself. I did like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But now when I listen to it, it's kind of like the mom spaghetti stuff. You know, I'm sure a lot of people made jokes about that.
It doesn't really hit the same way.

Speaker 2 And also what's so, it just, it was also unique for him at the time. And then now it's like, all his shit is like that.
Didn't he do one that was kind of funny recently?

Speaker 1 I doubt it.

Speaker 1 He did it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he did one that was kind of funny recently.

Speaker 1 He did in the last two years. In 2024, he did an album called The Death of Slim Shady.
Okay. And he was being Slim Shady on that album.
And I think when he's Slim Shady, he's funny.

Speaker 1 That's his funny persona kind of, like with the blonde hair and stuff like that. That's what I learned.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has kind of an alter ego that's Slim Shady.

Speaker 1 And then the other guy who has the very jet black beard that's one of the most black beards I've ever seen in my life. He's

Speaker 2 like more than the fucking pirate. I mean, this fucking...

Speaker 1 Yeah, this guy's gone full pirate mode on that thing. No doubt about it.

Speaker 2 I mean, the pictures of him at his daughter's wedding with that fucking painted-on beard is this.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's stressful.

Speaker 1 It's psychotic when you look at it. We talked about it before, too, I think, in the last episode that, like, it looks like it's computer-generated or whatever.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just so well-defined and dark that it's so unnatural.

Speaker 2 I think he should do a campaign, you know, just for men, but it should be just for M.

Speaker 1 You know, who's right there? It's funny. What's funny is his

Speaker 1 wife

Speaker 1 is his girlfriend, is his stylist. Oh, that's cool.
So she must like black beards. She's like, I don't like this gray hair.
It's disgusting. Well,

Speaker 1 she better like black beards, or she'll find herself on the fucking receiving end of

Speaker 1 some pretty serious fucking rap lyrics, perhaps. You know what I'm saying? This guy goes,

Speaker 1 this first reply is, in my opinion, New Eminem isn't even in the same stratosphere as Prime M, 2000, 2004. But I still like New M stuff a lot.
I just think that Prime M is the best rapper of all time.

Speaker 1 Now, the reply from the OP is the good party. He goes, New M ⁇ M got so damn good at rapping, it doesn't sound good to the

Speaker 1 casual listener's ear. It truly is next-level rapping.
It's just not as accessible. And I love that because I love just diving deep into his craft with his lyrics and rhyming.

Speaker 1 So that's somebody who likes to listen to rap in the same way some people like to listen listen to Tool or whatever. They're just like, Holy shit, this sounds terrible, but God, it must be hard to do.

Speaker 1 Like, that's that's the kind of music I like where I'm like, Holy shit, this sounds awful, but God, I could never do it. It's very complicated.

Speaker 2 It's like pet sounds.

Speaker 2 It's just like, you know, listen, it's it's it's obtuse, it's not necessarily like you can't get into it, but like Lennon heard it and it changed his mind, you know, and we learned about it.

Speaker 1 I feel, I feel like

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 like idea of, I get what he's saying and that he's just

Speaker 1 like he can rap so fast or whatever, I guess. Like, I think that's what he's talking about, maybe.
Because I don't know how you could become good, more like good in that way, I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it seems like

Speaker 2 the musicality doesn't even matter anymore for him. He's like, so

Speaker 1 he's just like, just the craft of it is so impressive. Like, holy shit, he did like 19 rhymes in like 32 seconds.
Like, that's actually a world record.

Speaker 1 And it's like, it blows the other one out of the water. And it's like, I don't know anything that he said.
But

Speaker 1 I think that what happened was,

Speaker 1 yeah, I don't know. It seems to me like he got a little bit older and stopped being interested in making that same type of music that he was making before.

Speaker 1 Well, that's, this guy goes, M only got better at his craft. People really need to stop crying.
It really shows they've not evolved while Eminem has.

Speaker 1 They're still stuck in that old energy and can't recognize new Eminem as a fucking genius. Imagine 25 years later and still wanting immature lyrics, frustrations, pain, and anger.
M got over it.

Speaker 1 Why can't you? That's a good question. Now, there is an issue.
This guy does bring something up.

Speaker 1 He goes, 30-plus years of songs and albums, and you kids are out here complaining about cohesiveness in his 12th studio album when he's nearly 50 and giving you an insane amount of content about his life in great detail.

Speaker 1 Never happy, never satisfied. Fucking gimme, gimme, gimme children.
Now, the reply to this, I love.

Speaker 1 Nas is still doing that at 50. So did Pusha and Malice.
Ironic to talk about kids being satisfied when you're acting childish. No, I'm not happy.

Speaker 1 He's never reached the heights of his first three albums in 23 years since. It's disappointing.

Speaker 1 Like, I think it's funny because, like, nobody in the history of music has ever maintained

Speaker 1 a career all that long?

Speaker 1 He came out in 99. It is almost 30 years.
Yeah, it's very rare.

Speaker 1 I think people have like a resurgence maybe where they'll have like, you know, they'll come back with a big album or whatever, or they'll maybe make a great album later on.

Speaker 1 But the idea of just continuing to get better until your last album, I think that can happen if you die when you're young and you only make a few albums.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, the idea of you're going to die young.
Yep. For the podcast.
I mean, you got to get to it. I mean,

Speaker 1 you're getting to a point now where it's. I'm thinking of dying at 70.

Speaker 1 70. That's not bad.
Nowadays, I guess that is kind of considered younger.

Speaker 2 Now that I'm older, like, I'm always like, fuck. How old was he?

Speaker 1 74? He's fucking young.

Speaker 2 When I was a kid, I was like,

Speaker 2 that was a good run. 70.

Speaker 1 But now that I'm old, I'm like, fuck, that's shit. The guy's a lot.

Speaker 1 I believe I only want to live. And I know a lot of people say this, but I do believe I'd be happy to live to 75.
I think

Speaker 1 that'd be cool for me. I'd be fine.
I'd be fine ducking out at that point. Not me.
So anyway, first of all,

Speaker 2 oh, these, like, I do love these

Speaker 2 very researched responses, you know, with like math and dates and 25 years and 12 studio studio albums and all this shit.

Speaker 2 Like, these guys aren't just off the cuff just saying, like, come on, 12 studio atoms, get the guy right now.

Speaker 2 It's so like funny. Internet researchers.

Speaker 1 They're not looking it up. They're not looking it up either in that moment.
This is information that exists in their brain already. This amount of studio albums and stuff.

Speaker 1 They've researched it before. Like, this is in their catalog of information.
I love this final post in the thread. My dad loves new MM.
It's his favorite artist by far. Ooh.
Now that's got to.

Speaker 1 That's got to shut it down. Yeah.
Well, we're done.

Speaker 1 That's the end of the thread.

Speaker 2 But 12 studio albums, I mean, that is, I couldn't even venture a guess before I heard that on how many records he had. I would say, like, five or something.

Speaker 2 12 is, there's a lot of shit out there that I haven't even heard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I mean. He just kind of stopped.

Speaker 1 For me, in my life, after the like three albums, four albums, maybe, I stopped even recognizing or registering that he was releasing new music at all. That's how it was with corn.

Speaker 1 Like, I was like this huge fan. It was the only music I listened to for like three years of my life.

Speaker 1 And then it got to a point where an album came out and I really liked it. And then the next one, I was like, I don't listen to that.
I don't have time for this shit.

Speaker 1 And I just stopped listening to it. And

Speaker 1 it was four albums in. So it is the Eminem thing, right? It's like it's four albums.
And then you're like, I've had enough. Yeah, you have to come out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's like, yeah, I know what I'm trying to think of like, because there aren't that many musicians that release that many albums, like full-on albums. Fleet Foxes.

Speaker 1 I was just listening to Fleet Foxes the other day, by the way. Well,

Speaker 1 at dinner time, we were listening to some. Charlie was really digging it.
I was listening to a song called Ragged Wood, which is

Speaker 1 fantastic.

Speaker 1 A little part in that vocal melody that's just beautiful. But

Speaker 1 it's hard to stick around with a band or artist for that long. You have to really be into them.
You have to be like an Eminem guy, I feel like, right?

Speaker 1 To be like, all right, let's, whatever this guy puts out i'm listening to it no matter what yeah you have to start to love the person and just not care about the

Speaker 2 yeah because truck yourself that you like that was like for me with phantom menace like i i went and saw that for movie when it first came i know people like it and it's there's been it's been revisited and all this stuff and people can argue And I know I'm in trouble with bringing up Star Wars stuff.

Speaker 2 It's dangerous.

Speaker 1 It's totally okay. We're against it, but it's fine.
We're against it big time.

Speaker 1 We love... Well, the big issue we have is that we feel like Jar Jar was giving it.
That's a big thing. Jar Jar was a trip.
It short treated

Speaker 1 very badly.

Speaker 2 But when that movie came out, and

Speaker 1 I was like, I love this when I saw it.

Speaker 2 But I knew in my mind I didn't really like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Or I was just like,

Speaker 1 I'm that way about everything I see.

Speaker 1 When it's over, I'm like, five stars. And then three days later, I'm like, this is the worst thing I've ever watched in my entire life.

Speaker 1 I'll never see it again. First long post of the show.
Okay. I love this post.
This one's good.

Speaker 1 Forgive me for getting a little political, but based on some of these lyrics, does anyone else think Eminem has evolved a bit since his revival days? Now,

Speaker 1 what I'm going to say is: Revival has some anti-Trump songs on it. It's the one with the, where he called him orange.
One, two.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You have to remember that this post was made one day

Speaker 1 before

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 introduced Kamala Harris on stage in Detroit. This post happened the day before.

Speaker 1 He goes, this is probably the wrong place to write this, but I'm just going to come right out and say it.

Speaker 1 I've been a Democrat my entire life, and the vast majority of everyone in my circle has been a Democrat for their entire life.

Speaker 1 But something changed in virtually everyone I know between the last election and the upcoming election. I won't get into specifics, but the one thing absolutely everyone I know agrees on is this.

Speaker 1 Even though we we all used to hate Trump, it's undeniably that we are all incredibly disappointed in how poorly Biden is doing.

Speaker 1 Like I said, most of us were not historically big fans of Trump or anything, but we really, really, really hate Biden.

Speaker 1 The truth is, I mean, the guy was falling asleep at times, like on camera. So, I mean, that's fucking humiliating for a president.
So, I have to defend that poster on that point.

Speaker 1 Well, he goes, and how nuts the left has gotten. We all agree.

Speaker 1 That is my favorite. How How nuts the left has gotten from a guy that's about to vote for Donald Trump.
I am prominent leftist. Yeah, you've gotten nuts.
I've noticed that you've gotten nuts.

Speaker 1 Does he mean Accent of the Week? Is he talking about Accent of the Week? He might be talking about Brian's Accent of the Week when he says that, oh, no, this is an older post. Brian.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is my accent.

Speaker 2 That is nuts, though.

Speaker 1 We all agree that our lives have gotten markedly worse under Biden. We're all ready for a change in direction.
I say all this because based on some of the lyrics Eminem is laying down on Houdini.

Speaker 1 This is about Eminem? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You have to give it a minute because he is going to come back and be a psycho Eminem guy. He will.
This isn't just like a politics thing.

Speaker 1 Because I usually would leave politics, like wouldn't do a ton of it, but this guy is great.

Speaker 1 He goes, I say all this because Eminem is laying down on Houdini. I think Eminem has had a change of heart as well.

Speaker 1 Accordingly, I put my money on the fact that he says nothing negative about Trump on this album. I don't think it's because he's trying to avoid politics all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 I think M, like the rest of us, has some serious buyer's remorse in 2024. Let's look at the lyric slash music video.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is a really sad post because it's somebody who desperately loves Eminem, right? And he's just like, he's like, God, it's like, I really want to get on the Trump train.

Speaker 1 Chick-a-chooka-choo-choo. But, God, it would feel a lot better to have my good friend Marshall Mathers on there with me.

Speaker 1 And they just want so badly to believe that he also feels the exact same way that they do i mean we all want that every celebrity that i watch on tv i'm always hoping that they feel the exact same thing about everything as i do you know please align with everything i um that is so funny we so on our show

Speaker 2 people will post shit and

Speaker 2 you know i try not to like look at any of that stuff too much because it can drive you crazy i'm sure you guys are the same i've heard you guys are the same but um there is this strange phenomenon I notice where people will say, Look, I am a staunch Democrat.

Speaker 2 I've always been a Democrat. I'm highly progressive.
But when you guys talk about your, you know, Democratic talk points on the show, you have to realize how ridiculous you sound.

Speaker 2 And then they'll just launch

Speaker 2 whatever, like, Republican stuff or whatever.

Speaker 1 I don't know, whatever. They always start with.
They're libertarian stuff or whatever.

Speaker 1 It could be libertarian sometimes, but you're right.

Speaker 2 They're like, they always start with, like, look, I am the my entire life. I've always been.
But at this point, you have to understand how ridiculous you sound.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like, I'm a lifelong Democrat. I'm racist, anti-immigration, and anti-gay marriage.
Like every Democrat I know.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 we don't get those, because we don't talk about politics on the show, we don't get those messages. Like we literally, we just don't talk about it.
We don't get people saying things.

Speaker 1 We can get messages from because people are like, Brian, you have the best politics. That's what a lot of people are always telling me.

Speaker 1 They're just sending you messages to tell you that your politics are good. They're like, we love your politics, Brian.

Speaker 1 Verse one: with respect to the lyrics, the first thing that popped out to me was young Eminem was wearing a Bud Light shirt in the music video and mentioning it in the song.

Speaker 1 Obviously, young Eminem is unaware of the controversy at issue in today's day, but the lyrics as well as music video just kind of leave it as that. So, uh,

Speaker 1 so you're so this is uh something from the past or something?

Speaker 1 This is a video where he's both being young MM and modern Eminem. And in the video, he's wearing a Bud Light shirt when he's young Minem.

Speaker 1 Okay, and is is it is it after the Bud Light controversy that the music video half was shot? Okay, so presumably then he was saying how he was ignorant before maybe and

Speaker 1 no longer ignorant. But that would that would go against this guy's point.

Speaker 1 If young Eminem was wearing the shirt, then he was saying, hey, I used to have these types of ignorant views, perhaps, but now I've grown up and matured.

Speaker 2 But I think, yeah, but no, he's

Speaker 1 saying, let me explain it. He's saying young Eminem's wearing a Bud Light t-shirt in this video, and he's talking about how he's grown up and is now an older person.

Speaker 1 Oh, wearing a Bud Light-or mature person.

Speaker 1 Wearing a Bud Light t-shirt is bad.

Speaker 1 Very bad. Oh, I forgot that it's the bad.
That's a bad thing because

Speaker 1 they had a trans person do one single ad campaign one single time. Is that right? That was that controversy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lifelong Democrat here, and I disagree with Bud Light, too.

Speaker 1 Lifelong Democrat here, but I simply can't drink Bud Light anymore.

Speaker 1 Me and all of my friends at the fucking DNC have stopped drinking Bud Light.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like, so they're trying to see this as a subtle little thing that Eminem has said, like, hey, maybe before I would have worn the Bud Light shirt, but now I won't anymore. Yes.

Speaker 2 And this guy is one step away from Eminem is talking to me a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yes. Just wait.
This one. Eminem also mentions that the world's about to turn into some Girl Scouts and that the censorship bureau's out.

Speaker 1 The Boy Scouts very recently got some backlash for turning the Boy Scouts into a gender-neutral organization. Also, the censorship bureau is unmistakably a left-wing socialist idea.

Speaker 1 For example, no one on the right is attempting to censor Eminem. Psychotic thing to say.
Psychotic thing to say because people on the, I mean, the Christian right is, they are the censorship kings.

Speaker 1 I mean, and this is, yeah, oh, we don't need to, yeah, obviously. Next line.
Eminem says, sometimes I wonder what the old mead say.

Speaker 1 If he could see the way shit is today, he'd probably say that everything is gay.

Speaker 1 Again, the young M ⁇ M would find the world we are currently living in to be absolutely nuts, but only with respect to how the left is making it nuts. He mentions nothing about the right.
Nothing.

Speaker 1 Not a single thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And again, he's talking

Speaker 1 from the perspective that the old me would think everything's gay. Not the young me.
But this guy doesn't even like.

Speaker 1 He can't even figure that out. That one doesn't track.
That one doesn't track.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He can't get the demarcation. I love this like ipso facto thing.

Speaker 2 And furthermore, Your Honor,

Speaker 1 please to court, Your Honor. He's getting really confused, as I did a little bit, because he's using this whole thing.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, the metaphor of him being before and wearing this and how he'd react to today's world.

Speaker 1 I think he's getting himself a little too confused. I don't think even maybe Eminem meant a lot of the stuff he's talking about.
1,000%, Chris. I thought maybe Eminem was just like, well, you know,

Speaker 1 there's the Bud Light thing, right?

Speaker 1 Put that in there for SEO. Like, this is probably

Speaker 1 SEO situation.

Speaker 1 SEO stuff. It's literally SEO shit that I was talking about before as a joke.

Speaker 2 It reminds me of, do you guys ever listen to Elvis Mitchell, like on NPR, where he will have...

Speaker 1 Oh, you are talking to the wrong two fellas, my friend. Two stupidest men on the planet.
NPR. Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 This guy, if you said, what's NPR? This guy would say, what, nude penis radio? Like, that's how this guy would say. Okay, now that's something I'm into.

Speaker 1 this guy would ask you literally is that I think I have listened to Elvis

Speaker 2 talk about movies yeah so he talks about movies and he'll have guests come on and he will just pull these like crazy

Speaker 2 oh not crazy I don't know it's like his thing is kind of he'll say like so I've noticed that in your movies that you'll have a lot of times you feature the ocean and you have the ocean in your movies and do you think that maybe that's you trying to say that your father is the ocean and the ocean means that it's a place of warmth and comfort, but at the same time, it's being killed by, you know, like just this, and they'll say, well, you know, I've never thought about that before, but I guess now that you're pointing it out, that kind of, it's like the filmmakers don't even have,

Speaker 2 they can't even see where he's going with whatever it is. And it, it's this kind of, they get this Elvis Mitchell treatment.

Speaker 2 And it's, it's a badge of honor, you know, if you go on his show and have him, you know, make some inane connections that are, you know.

Speaker 1 But is it, is, do you think that he's, is he he really making those things where they're saying, holy shit, you've tapped into something?

Speaker 1 Or are they just like, oh, okay, Elvis, yeah, that's a cool little idea, but that's not what I meant at all.

Speaker 2 I think it's both. I think it's bad.

Speaker 1 Maybe sometimes he, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's very smart and impressive and cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, uh, but I think it's definitely both. Cause sometimes it's like so far from

Speaker 1 specific or whatever. And then the person is like, yeah, but, but it's Elvis Mitchell, who's just really well respected.
So they're not going to be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 I wonder if anybody's ever been like, what the fuck are you talking about, you weirdo? No, I didn't think about any of that. It's funny, too, because it is.
I always complain.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing with like long-running television series or like,

Speaker 1 listen, Chris gets mad wrestling, where people think the guys booking it are thinking all of this stuff.

Speaker 1 When they're really booking it and just being like, this guy's going to lose because tonight he loses. You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 1 you're telling this elaborate story. You're making it up.

Speaker 1 You got to see an interview with some of these guys

Speaker 1 where they're doing these fucking shoot interviews or whatever. These guys are not geniuses of the world who are

Speaker 1 super thoughtful.

Speaker 1 What was that guy's name? Vince Russo? Vince Russo, yeah. Like Vince Russo was not like, hmm, like, let's consider the implications of this if he is to actually come into the ring here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was, they were just throwing shit together. They still don't have the time.
They still don't. And people just spend all their time.
And that's what this is. This is.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm an ex, I'm a, I guess I convinced myself I was a Democrat at some point,

Speaker 1 but I'm insanely racist and transphobic. I don't like anybody except for white people, like all this stuff, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then he's like, qualifying, using the Democrat to like strengthen his argument, too.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 And then he's like, I love. Listen, I love Eminem and I would love it.
And I'm thinking he's come around the same time as me.

Speaker 1 That's what one thing me and him have in common. First of all, he's very down to earth.

Speaker 1 And secondly, he's just like me politically. He does finish.
If you think about it, we both look up at the same fucking sun every morning. That's true.

Speaker 1 When the guy starts saying shit like that, he goes, Eminem continues to only make fun of left-wing nonsense, and then he does a...

Speaker 1 does a verse that's very obviously a Slim Shady, like a young hymn verse.

Speaker 1 And then at the end, he goes, accordingly, even though Eminem is rapping from the POV a slim shady Eminem and the Ann wrote the song and Eminem only attacked left-wing lunacy he didn't mention a single thing about the right interesting interesting so

Speaker 1 so you think this old when he and when he brought Kamala Harris up it could be part of a long you know

Speaker 1 well

Speaker 1 this guy goes maybe my comment is very surface level but I don't think his current criticisms are poking fun at things predominantly associated with left-wing's ideas doesn't mean he's suddenly switched up his sides about right-wing Trump and that culture in general.

Speaker 1 He's actually always seemed to have a pretty critical of both sides of the spectrum, and his alter ego has always been an exaggerated caricature of certain things in America, too, including left-wing and right-wing ideas.

Speaker 1 This is also only one song.

Speaker 1 Also, I'm pretty sure there's been right-wing figures, whether it's Twitter accounts or politicians, that have tried to silence or call him out, but then they switch up when they believe he's unironically supporting their ideas.

Speaker 1 Like, for example, some of the houdini's lyria lyrical content and then the next the next

Speaker 1 the next comment is

Speaker 1 hate to break it to you but he's publicly endorsed kamala harris and introduced obama at her rally last

Speaker 1 one day one of the worst just a horrible comment for that guy to read

Speaker 2 one of the worst days of his life i love this guy like like fucking going over this stuff fact checking everything and then just all right i'm gonna post post it. Here we go.

Speaker 2 This is going to fucking rock everybody's world. And then literally the day after, oh, God.

Speaker 2 The song you're referencing, Houdini, was the kind of funny one that I was thinking of on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I think he talked. Yeah.
He's goofing around.

Speaker 1 And again, it seems like the song Houdini is, I'm an adult now. These are my positions or this is how I feel as an adult about the old me.
I don't, I think Eminem's done like three political.

Speaker 1 I don't think any, Mosh,

Speaker 1 which is the song where I was like, I think I'm totally out on this guy. Actually, when that song came out, I was, I was Mr.
Democrat and I was like, Eminem, you did it. You did it again.

Speaker 1 But shortly after, I was like,

Speaker 1 it's kind of corny.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 Mr. Mathers, you've done it again, my friend.
An absolute rap, an absolute,

Speaker 1 one of the best rap songs I've ever heard, my God.

Speaker 1 And that's the other thing. These These conservative guys are like, well, that was, well, he's doing some good stuff.
It's like, you don't want them

Speaker 1 liking what you do. It's a bad sign.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's a really bad sign when some conservative guy is like, I really love what you're doing.
I mean, it's truly like

Speaker 1 you want like young

Speaker 2 trans or gay people. I mean, that's, if that's your audience, it's like you're.
You're doing something right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do feel like a lot of sort of musicians and stuff, at least,

Speaker 1 they'll be welcome in by all of these people who are like, well, I really like what you're doing. Yeah.
And what they're doing is like being extremely hateful to marginalized groups or whatever.

Speaker 1 That's just

Speaker 1 LOL. I came here after watching.
It bothers me how he, let alone any intelligent human, can vote for these people.

Speaker 1 It doesn't make sense. I would love to sit down and just ask him why.

Speaker 1 What reason he has to go out? I'm going to fucking.

Speaker 1 I just want to have a conversation with him. I just want to sit down and talk.
Like, honestly,

Speaker 1 like, has anyone ever done that with him? Like, he's such a big star that it's like, has anyone ever just explained to him sort of where he's going wrong politically?

Speaker 1 It is funny. I had a period of time where I was like, I feel like I could sit down with anybody and

Speaker 1 convince them to take left-wing positions because they seem like the best. And then it's like, once i like once my father-in-law went over to trump i was like there's no

Speaker 1 world in which he would change his mind there's nothing there's nothing you can say to him like even me but this guy thinks and he goes it's just because he's in a predominantly black world of hip-hop and would get black for voting right because for whatever reason blue and red is equivalent to black and white these days

Speaker 1 well not for whatever reason it's not for whatever reason

Speaker 1 um i also do want to i want to apologize. I was being ignorant because I use a classic southern accent for my ignorant person who loves racist people.

Speaker 1 And I think that's a real trope, though, and I'd like to change it up. I'm going to be like, I'm going to do an Ohio accent.
There's no such thing as an Ohio accent.

Speaker 1 Anyway, this guy goes, he honestly. probably hasn't even looked into it because clearly anyone on the left is just ignorant to facts, especially these days.
Next reply.

Speaker 1 You said one big reason yourself. Trump is racist.
Eminem may not be black in skin, but he's had an upbringing like many black artists and rappers.

Speaker 1 Why would he vote for someone with rhetoric like Trump? I can say the same thing you're saying versus the right, too. Bothers me how let alone, and then he goes into his thing.
And it finally.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, listen, that sounds kind of stupid, but I don't think that that guy is completely wrong either because I think that Eminem grew up around predominantly black people.

Speaker 1 And like through hip-hop, a lot of his friends and the people who knew are black people. So it sort of does make sense a little bit.

Speaker 1 I think you feel the same way when you have like friends who are people of color or trans or whatever and you're like, you're like, fuck those people who are, you know, making these policies that fuck over my friends.

Speaker 1 If you

Speaker 2 make sense. Spending time predominantly with the marginalized group or marginalized groups for sure.

Speaker 2 It's just, it's just so funny that this

Speaker 2 that these guys are getting pulled into this political

Speaker 2 conflict in their own minds is just unreal.

Speaker 2 Like I, you know, they're just sitting and listening to rap and then all of a sudden they have to, you know, face this inside themselves oh yeah and then just it's it's got to take to the internet and sort this out we got to figure this out

Speaker 1 there is only one like i i've seen this person post yeah it's like such a horrible way to be to be constantly having to be thinking about paul you know what i mean like just listen to his music and if you enjoy it then you enjoy it like that just must be miserable this is the last post in this thread yeah it's really quite crestfallen to see him out there chilling for kamala crestfallen to me it's just every Crestfallen.

Speaker 1 Talking about Eminem.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 I'm quite crestfallen, actually.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 2 you know, Michael or whatever, you seem kind of down today. What's going on? But I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 I'm just fucking sad, dude. It's not.

Speaker 2 I don't know what's.

Speaker 1 A guy I thought was pretty fucking cool,

Speaker 1 turns out to just be pretty much a fake friend, you know?

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah, he goes, to me, it's just evidence that he's either too focused on rap to know better.
Oh my God, he's so

Speaker 1 focused on rap. He's in the studio.
They're like, Eminem, you're following the election, what's going on? He's like, yeah, I'm just coming up with the rhymes, you know?

Speaker 1 He's like, get out of here.

Speaker 2 If you just stop listening to beats and focus on the issues, maybe you can make a point that's cogent.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's like, well, yeah, he's got CNN on in his house, but he's got a fucking pair of over-your-headphones playing beats constantly to figure out what the best beat is that he could do is hip-hop music for you.

Speaker 2 I could just sit down with him at a Panera, just sit down with him across the table,

Speaker 2 look him in the eye. I think I could get to the bottom of what's going on here.

Speaker 1 I think if I sat down with him at a Panera, I would look him right in the eyes and I would say, hey, I finished all of my charged lemonade. Can I have yours, please?

Speaker 1 I love the idea of like ebonem sitting like like in his house and he's got like the big book like like they used to have at the library it's like a big book just of rap lyrics that he's looking at for inspiration he's looking at things that rhyme with other things he's just literally looking at rhymes he's just like okay so like wedding and then he's just like betting like sledding like he just sees all the different rhymes for and he's putting them all into his head sweater already mom spaghetti yeah yeah he's like putting them into his head He's doing that constantly, so he doesn't have time to like...

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's not going to weigh in on the situation in Palestine because he's thinking of rap lyrics. He's busy.
He's focused on rap.

Speaker 1 He's not in any position to deny them because he's dependent on the industry or something. Politics is a game.
It's not for the little citizens to understand. It's to keep us whipped up and busy.

Speaker 1 None of it makes sense. And the actors are all actors, sometimes literally.

Speaker 1 That fact has been plainly obvious to me since I was young. Even big strongman Arnold Schwarzenegger has been out there saying wimpy girly man things.
Screw your freedom.

Speaker 1 And it's contradicting the very country that he came to and made him how. How's that make sense? Most of the people responding here are exemplary of being all caught up in the circus.

Speaker 1 They're trying to make sense of the senseless and justify it all based on their feelings and based on something that they don't really know the reality of. So

Speaker 1 I love people like that who are just like, hey, listen, I'm fucking. I don't, I'm so, I don't understand what the fuck is going on.
And guess what? Neither do you.

Speaker 1 Okay, I hate to break it to you, but you don't know what's going on either because I don't have any idea about any of it.

Speaker 1 It's like the

Speaker 2 intensely patronizing, but then they'll throw themselves in there. Look, this is a fucking circus.
I don't know it. You don't know it.
Nobody knows it. Who knows it?

Speaker 1 And somebody stands up. They're like, well, I got to kind of.
No, you don't.

Speaker 1 No, you don't. Nobody could.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 2 You don't. We We could.

Speaker 1 Listen, it is. I think some of, I think politics are.
I think there is some truth. That person was nonsensical in a lot of ways.
But obviously, politics are

Speaker 1 purposely confusing, I do think, and like inaccessible to regular people. That is a function of democracy.
Or that is what they're trying to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the next long one. Strap in, everybody.
This one's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 This is off of Quora.

Speaker 1 The question question is, rap music. Who's a better rapper? Tupac or Eminem? Ooh, the age-old.

Speaker 1 And this guy goes, I think you don't actually know what a rapper means, because if you did, you'd already have an answer, and the answer is Eminem.

Speaker 1 Now, why is he better than Tupac? Now we get some categories here. Rhyme schemes.

Speaker 1 Anyone who studies rap, hears rap technically, knows that Eminem has the most complex lyricism ever. Tupac doesn't stand a chance.

Speaker 1 Just try rapping a song by Tupac and Eminem, and you'll realize the difference. Try rapping Dear Mama by

Speaker 1 Tupac and Rap God by Eminem. You won't be able to rap the latter at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of them is way faster. And we've established that, right? That like he has this ability technically to like rap in this extremely impressive, technical, like fast.

Speaker 1 And it sounds good when he's doing it, you know? So it is really, really good. But I don't think that that's the only thing that makes a rapper rapper good.

Speaker 2 It is dazzling. When I was a kid, I was fascinated by this guy that did Micro Machines commercials.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too. Me too.
I love the Micro Machines. We must be around the same age because, yeah, Micro Machines were huge.
That guy was huge for me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and even beyond the actual, I liked the toy a lot, but I was fascinated by the guy. I mean, it was so impressive to me, and everybody would try to do it.

Speaker 2 And there'd be, there was like a popular kid at my school that could do it almost as fast as him.

Speaker 2 And the guy was able to get a lot of, you know, clout and credibility because he was able to speak quickly like this guy. So there is something to it as humans.
We, you know, maybe I'll see you.

Speaker 1 I never played with the micro machines either. Yeah, I meant I was obsessed with that guy, too.
He had the Guinness Book of World Record.

Speaker 1 Like, he was in the Guinness Book of World Records as the fastest talker at the time. And so it was like, it was quantifiable too.

Speaker 1 You know, you'd watch this commercial and then you'd be like, this guy's fucking whipping through this shit. He's saying it so fast.

Speaker 1 And then you'd like turn to your friends and be like, This guy's like literally the fastest talker in the world, eh? Like, there's nobody that talks faster than this guy.

Speaker 1 It's in a, it's in the books and shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, vocab, vocabulary, genius. Crowned MM is the music artist with the most vocabulary.
So, he has a vocabulary. Well, that's genius.

Speaker 1 He has so much vocabulary.

Speaker 1 He studies it all day. It's all he does.
I do know a music artist with a better vocabulary.

Speaker 1 Well, yes, Draymond.

Speaker 2 David Draymond.

Speaker 1 Draymond has incredible.

Speaker 1 He says he

Speaker 1 has a large vernacular.

Speaker 1 Vernacular. His vernacular is incredible.
And I can't disagree. I can't disagree.
Eminem has the largest vocabulary in the music industry according to a study. Flow!

Speaker 1 Eminem is a guy who's mastered over one.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, according to a study, that was all the information that they had. That was it.
Yeah, he has the largest vocabulary in the music industry.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I think generally when you're citing a study, you have to give some information on the study. You get to say it was a study.
Was it peer-reviewed? Yeah. Mr.

Speaker 1 Doesn't Understand Morning Radio. No, because they'll even say that according to a study from the whatever institution.
From Rogers University.

Speaker 1 Right. That's all I'm looking for.
I'm not looking for that much information. I just want something.

Speaker 1 Well, I love this line.

Speaker 1 The next category is flow.

Speaker 1 Eminem is a guy who's mastered over a thousand flows, which, by the way, I I don't know how to quantify. I don't even know what that means.
Well, it does mean something. Like, it is really.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is like you can change your flow up, obviously.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, a thousand times does seem like

Speaker 1 we might be splitting airs there. It might be some of the flows are the same.

Speaker 2 It's like, give me an example of five flows, you know, like what?

Speaker 1 One flow. Yeah, one, two, two flows.
I want to know two flows. Yes.

Speaker 1 You guys, but you do know. Like, but Tupac has a very, very well-defined flow.
So you can can almost hear it. And he only uses one.

Speaker 1 And that is kind of like a well-known, like, oh, I see his race, his face is misplaced, says, like, that's his flow. And it stays the same.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 1 I'm getting up out of my chair.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I think that, like, and there are rappers that are known who can switch up their flow, and they can rap completely differently.
And it sounds completely...

Speaker 1 Even like Cardi B does it sometimes, where she's done it in a song where I think maybe even in Bodak Yellow or something, she switches flows like a number of times in the same song.

Speaker 1 But yeah, 1,000 flows seems insane. It's a really weird thing.

Speaker 2 It seems hyperbolic.

Speaker 1 It seems hyperbolic, definitely. Well, that's not true, though.
He goes, Eminem is a guy who has mastered over a thousand flows. He brought new flows to the game, which no one ever saw.

Speaker 1 Tupac just had one flow, except for the songs he has with Dr. Dre.
No, he's right. They are, that is, I think people will argue with it, but if you listen to Tupac, you can hear it.

Speaker 1 You can basically take his, his, like the lyrics or like the vocals and put it over a different track of his and it will always work and it always is essentially like he is rapping in the same sort of way i don't i don't dislike or like him but that is that is something people say for sure i i understand i understand what you're saying it's just weird to

Speaker 2 to put that number on like yeah or just to even give it a number i think it's i feel like it's kind of unique to the beats and stuff and there's some people that just have a range and i guess maybe he has more range.

Speaker 1 T-Bach did a different,

Speaker 2 he did, he rapped different. And do you remember the group Digital Underground?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 He did a verse on that same song. It was from the Nothing But Trouble soundtrack.

Speaker 1 I'm sure. Crazy movie, by the way.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm sure he's because he's put out a lot of stuff. So he did put out a lot of stuff.
So I'm sure there are instances where you can find him rapping in a different flow. And I think you're right.

Speaker 1 Anybody who's saying, like, this rapper has 17 flows, this rapper has 25, this rapper has 190, that is bizarre. Like, that is weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because it's like, I think Eminem could just come in there and do this staccato stuff and

Speaker 2 you know, just do this kind of surprising rap on the downbeat or whatever. I'm really exposing my limit,

Speaker 1 brother.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 I see what this guy is saying.

Speaker 1 It's just,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's just hilarious. It's like punk music, right? Like, it's like, I'm not judging Tool

Speaker 1 on the same thing that I'm judging, like, a punk band. I don't want to say one because whatever.

Speaker 1 Because half of them end up being, like, racists or something. The Dead Boys.
You know what I mean? Like, it's like judging. Rancid.

Speaker 1 All right. Storytelling.

Speaker 1 Storytelling. Tupac is a really good storyteller, but if you've heard songs like Mockingbird, Kim, Cleaning Out My Closet, Headlights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kim is a lot about murdering his ex-wife. Have you heard that song? Yeah.
It's got, first of all, a hell of a flow. And two, it's a great story.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. I just wanted to clarify.
I listen to it all the time for inspiration. What the hell?

Speaker 1 Get an argument with my wife.

Speaker 1 You argue with your wife when she comes in here listening to Kim. Why don't you just listen to it?

Speaker 2 I make my wife listen to it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm just listening to this.

Speaker 1 Have you heard this song? Are you fighting with your song before? That is like, that is some real passive-aggressive spousal abuse there.

Speaker 1 Freestyle. Eminem was runner-up in the Rap Olympics in 1996, so he will shred anybody who stands in front of him.
So in this department, Eminem wins hands down.

Speaker 1 Eminem would eat Tupac alive in a battle rap ring.

Speaker 1 I watched, we were talking, you were talking earlier about 8 Mile and about how it didn't seem as like, and that's obviously a a movie about he's he's a battle rapper and it so he's like and i remember when i watched it that i was like holy like i went crazy for his battles i was like he

Speaker 1 ruined these guys like he ended their

Speaker 1 life and it built to his big his battle with papa doc yeah i was i went back and watched it like because i've been watching movie scenes on youtube like a real you know i did that recently too yeah like just watching like 10 like eight minute movie scenes on youtube you're trying to grow as an artist.

Speaker 1 So why watch the whole movie?

Speaker 2 We can watch some scene that you've seen before and not the whole movie.

Speaker 1 Exactly, exactly. So I, but I, and I watched a couple of these battle raps and some of them were really unimpressive.

Speaker 1 And I know there's a movie, obviously, but that to me is like more of a, because it's like, you have a movie here. You have time to really prepare all this shit.

Speaker 1 And it just seemed like it's just like, yeah, your name's Clarence. It's like, that was one of the things you called the guy.
That's an own.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, yeah, Rabbit, you know, as Rabbit, that's his character in the movie. Oh, yeah, B.

Speaker 1 Rabbit, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So they're trying to show growth, but it is.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're trying to show that he's getting better and stuff like that. But even, I never, I watched all of them.
I watched every one of the battle raps.

Speaker 1 I'm talking like even, yeah, even the last one. Like, I was like, because I've watched a lot of battle rapping, like King of the Dot and stuff like that.
And I used to have a friend who...

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Fancy.

Speaker 1 Anyways, there's some.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. It is.
Anyways, so I used to do a live talk show, and I had like a battle rapper on and did a battle rap against him as this like comedy thing. I had to battle rap against somebody,

Speaker 2 but so go out there and get destroyed.

Speaker 1 It just seems to me like

Speaker 1 just get serious about it. That was my that was the whole bit I did where I was just like, I'm this talk show, who's really arrogant, and I was like, I'll fucking destroy you.

Speaker 1 And then he battle rapped me, and I ran off stage with the mic still on me, and I was like backstage crying and being like, I don't want to go back out, like, leave me alone, like, stop it.

Speaker 1 And, but, yeah, so I would go to a lot of those events, and all of them, you know, the guys were saying shit that was so much better than what B Rabbit was saying in Apollo. Like, it was just like

Speaker 2 all of his stuff is pretty pedestrian, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, totally. I think, I guess it was for like

Speaker 1 the mat, like, it was for like a mainstream audience, too. So, they couldn't be saying like really gnarly shit that they do in the battle rap show.

Speaker 1 Well, the next thing that Eminem has got over Tupac is he came up with some new subjects.

Speaker 1 That's such a funny thing to say about music.

Speaker 1 He goes, shit is so, why were you late for work today?

Speaker 2 I had to fucking get on Quora and handle some shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had to handle this argument that's been going on. I've been looking into it.
He goes, before Eminem, rappers mostly were gangster rappers.

Speaker 1 Iced T, Pac, Biggie, M talked about ignorant parents, drugs, and how a nobody from a trailer park became the biggest selling hip-hop artist. Which brings me to my next point

Speaker 1 types of music not afraid till i collapse lose yourself motivational just lose it we made you my band funny happy songs space bound stronger than i was headlights emotional sad songs kim kill you bonnie and clyde violence

Speaker 1 violence against women

Speaker 1 just being clear i don't want to keep harping on that but he

Speaker 2 Well, hold on. Before that's you're making that point, I just want to look up what's I'm looking up Billboard and what's number one on the violence charts because it is a genre of music.

Speaker 1 Well, this one, Haley's Revenge, the Sauce, Nail in the Coffin, diss tracks.

Speaker 1 Who is nailing the coffin? Was that Machine Gun Kelly? I believe so. Like,

Speaker 1 who is he in a B front? Probably Machine Gun Kelly. I know he was the last one he had.
Because that was, like, I never heard the music, but I remember

Speaker 1 hearing that he, like, a line he said about Machine Gun Kelly. The next thing, the next type of song is Shake That and Ass Like That, which he categorizes as songs about bitches.

Speaker 1 God damn. And then the last one, WTP Smack That.
That's Club Records. So, as you can see, he makes songs for all kinds of mood.
But by the way,

Speaker 1 he makes songs for all kinds of mood. Violence, bitches,

Speaker 1 he's a category.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, it all seems, I don't know, it seems like, I guess it is different situation.

Speaker 1 He makes songs for different situations in a very specific person's life. That's what I will say.
Yeah. He goes, and then finally, we got it.
We got the last one. And listen, sales.

Speaker 1 Lemon M is the biggest selling artist. I repeat, biggest selling artist.
Not just a rapper of the last decade. He's the second highest-selling artist of Nielsen soundtrack ever.

Speaker 1 But Tupac was murdered when he was 25 years old or something, right? Like he got 25 more years to sell records and make records.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there is like it's like the Babe Ruth argument or, you know, how many games played and all that shit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But there is

Speaker 2 like this guy going hard for Eminem. And God bless him for, you know, this.

Speaker 2 like how much he's thought about all this shit. It is very funny and impressive.
But I do love he's going so hard and he's like, hey, guy fucking was runner up at the Rap Olympics.

Speaker 2 So number two there.

Speaker 1 Who win? Who won?

Speaker 2 And then it's like he's number two for top-selling records.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of all he's number two. And

Speaker 1 he's the second highest selling artist of Nielsen's soundtrack era. Yeah, what is that? I know that I don't know.
And listen, I'm a person that is kind of obsessed. I like,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say it. Anyway.
Wait, no, you have to say it now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just business stuff of like entertainment and shit. Like I like box office and record sales.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't want to say it. Because it's bad.

Speaker 1 This guy, like, it's from radio. It's from you being obsessed with radio before, probably, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 because I'll be, when I was younger,

Speaker 1 I was like, I would love to see the Nielsen ratings. I hear about them all the time.

Speaker 1 I'd love to, like, and it was even, I was young, so there wasn't like internet access in the same sort of way where I could just go find the Nielsen ratings, and that was something that was really interesting to me.

Speaker 1 And like, who's the best radio? What are you talking about, Brian? The best you want to know, like, quarterly earnings and stuff?

Speaker 1 I don't think it's that, but I was just about to say something that was going to be really embarrassing. I'm just going to say it.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 Don't go too hard on me. I do read variety.

Speaker 1 This guy, he lives in Columbus, Ohio. I know.
I know.

Speaker 1 Believe me, I fucking know. Okay.

Speaker 1 So where do you get it from? Where do you get it from? I have Apple News. Oh, okay.
So

Speaker 1 you don't have like a physical copy of it. No, no, no.
I have the Apple News subscription and you can read Variety and Deadline. So you just like, like, I mean, you want to see in the trades.

Speaker 1 You want to see like what's going on.

Speaker 1 What's coming out, to tell you the truth. Like, I want to know what movies are coming out.
Oh, so it'll tell you, like, because I want to know that too, but I don't go go to Variety for that.

Speaker 1 I have these sites that are just like movie release calendar, and it has all wide-release movies. And I go, I look at that all the time where I'm just like, okay, this Friday, what's coming out?

Speaker 1 Can I see it on streaming? Check the torrent situation, theater situation. Dude, yeah, it's the same.

Speaker 2 There used to be a website called upcomingmovies.com that I would go to.

Speaker 1 I think that was right.

Speaker 1 I used to go there all the time. When I worked in the call center,

Speaker 1 I would spend the entire eight hours looking at upcoming movies. I'll send you guys a couple.
We should share sites because I have a couple of them that are really, really good.

Speaker 1 And like there's some that have like all, like there's one for all the Asian movie release calendars.

Speaker 1 So it shows you when Asian, like Korean movies are coming out streaming and Japanese movies and stuff. And yeah, I keep up on that.

Speaker 1 Like I will know when every single movie is coming out and how to watch it no matter what.

Speaker 2 I think I'm very similar to you guys. And growing up, I would.

Speaker 2 I learned about the trades from looking at these movie sites because they would reference them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so, and I think it was born out of a love of movies, obviously, and also just being so hungry for anything.

Speaker 2 Like I would, at first, I grew to love Sisco and Ebert, but I would watch it initially because they would show clips of movies. And I was so fucking horny for movie.

Speaker 2 I would just be like, they're going to show a clip of fucking Temple of Doom.

Speaker 1 I'll just watch it.

Speaker 2 I'll sit for the review just to watch a clip of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, totally. Cause I'm going to, we did Nostalgic Guys a little while ago, a couple months ago, maybe.
And, and yeah, the, oh, God, it was a good episode.

Speaker 1 Um, but, but we talked like, yeah, because you're going to the movie store to get movies. So it's like, you know, they're not just popping up wherever you want to watch them.

Speaker 1 You're having to go watch them. So yeah, just getting to see, like, I talk about watching scenes on YouTube.
That wasn't no shit.

Speaker 1 You want to see a scene, you have to, like, find it somewhere like in the wild. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It used to be hard. And like my dream growing up was

Speaker 2 strong language, but I want you mentioned Nielsen. Like you heard about Nielsen families and they got a box.
Oh, yeah. And they were part of that system.

Speaker 1 Like, I just wanted to be involved and like look at shit. And I had that.
People, you were a Nielsen family. Brian was a Nielsen family.

Speaker 1 For like a period when I,

Speaker 1 listen, I didn't, my rating was literally just everything that everybody watches. I was a Nielsen, we were a Nielsen family.
It was me, my friend Nate, and my wife.

Speaker 1 And we lived together and we had the box. And they send you a dollar, weirdly.
So, like, they sent you a crisp $1 bill to get you.

Speaker 2 It was kind of weird.

Speaker 1 You guys must have fucked the out. You must have fucked the algorithm so much.
No, we didn't fuck the algorithm.

Speaker 1 We watched like this isn't the period where, like, yeah, this is the period when like friends, like, must see TV Thursday was out, and then Survivor was on. And we're just watching all that stuff.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, all the same shit people watch.

Speaker 1 Because there was a period in my life and anybody my age's life where I don't know if this is totally true, but I've talked to other people who feel this way that on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, you had shows that you just didn't miss.

Speaker 1 And at like eight o'clock, you're like, well, I watch this show at eight o'clock on this channel and this show at nine o'clock on this channel.

Speaker 1 Like you had a full-on schedule for the night where you would watch shows. And like, that was when ratings were higher because everybody was fucking having

Speaker 1 Sunday night, I remember, of course, like the Sunday night, you know, Simpsons fucking all that shit. I remember that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, even younger than that, the Thursday night Friends Seinfeld, shit like that. Yeah, you used to have a TV night, you know? You're like, holy fuck, must see, yeah, must-see TV or whatever.

Speaker 1 All right, let's look at some reviews of 8-Mile.

Speaker 1 Now, I want to read the Rotten Tomatoes scores because I think they're important. For this, love Rotten Tomatoes.
Brian, by the way, do you live in, where do you live?

Speaker 2 I live in LA Studio City, like in the valley of Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 See, Brian, this is he's gonna be out there. I'm going out there, sir.
Bro, Brian goes there all the time. He's always trying to, like, yeah.
So, if you could, like, take him to an airwan or whatever,

Speaker 1 fucking Erewhon. Let him have a smoothie and run around in the play area or whatever.

Speaker 2 I would be honored, dude, to have you fucking join me at an air. We'll get the $30 shit there.

Speaker 1 Oh, he'll try to get some add-ons and

Speaker 2 I've seen a couple celeb sightings at the airworne I go to. I only, well, it's by my gym, which is danger.
I would never, it's so expensive. It should just be a treat, but it's the convenience of it.

Speaker 1 Who did you see? I would love to, I love celeb sightings.

Speaker 2 I saw Steven Tyler.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 2 he was with an assistant or something, and you know, somebody that was just shopping with them. And, like, you're fucking crazy rich if you're.
grocery shopping at there.

Speaker 2 I mean, they're in like he's buying produce there. And so, I mean, I don't know what his total was when he checked out.

Speaker 1 Stephen Tyler, I think, is, yeah, I'm thinking he doesn't have to worry about money anymore. The guy

Speaker 1 is totally the older. Is that you talk to an older person about like, yeah, I think probably Steven Tyler doesn't have to worry about his money situation anymore.
He, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 Did you see any other celebrities?

Speaker 2 Well, I was going to say, he, I was like, so I just tried to get as close as I could to see if I could overhear anything he was saying.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 all I could catch was the tail end of some statement he made, and it was, so we're good on apples.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 did you smell him by any chance? Oh, nice, nice question. That's all I care about.

Speaker 2 I wasn't able to smell him. I also saw him at the gym one time.

Speaker 1 You guys

Speaker 1 live close by there, maybe?

Speaker 2 I think, or like, this was,

Speaker 2 I don't know why. I mean, I think it's like close to the Hollywood Hills.
Like, I'm on the other side of, if you think of, like, the Hollywood Hills.

Speaker 1 That's why I do all the time.

Speaker 2 if you think of them, uh, there's Sunset Boulevard and West Hollywood on one side, and then there's the valley on the other side, right?

Speaker 1 So it's just like literally looking around like a fucking lost dog right now. No, I'm not talking about it.
I know all of this shit, I know all these streets like the back of my hand.

Speaker 1 It sounds to me like you're, yeah, this is basic. This is just like a Sunday for me.
And it's funny that you, that the guy you saw was Steven Tyler, because I say this a lot. Like,

Speaker 1 I live by the concert concert venues here, right?

Speaker 2 Like, I live like by most of them.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And obviously, there's guys, like, famous guys in bands and stuff, walking around here when they come here to perform. They're doing something.

Speaker 1 And I don't think I would ever be able to identify a famous guy. Because even when they film movies here and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 I don't think I'd be able to identify him in public unless they look like Steven Tyler. Something like that.
He was like a guy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's unmistakable. He was in full, at the gym, he was in full regalia, like all his shit.
And I looked down. He had like little tiny feet.

Speaker 2 I like Aerosmith fine. I'm not the biggest fan in the world.
I like him fine. But for some reason, this is why these stories I'm telling you.
So I'll leave it at this one.

Speaker 2 But I looked down at his feet and he had like the, I don't even know what kind of shoes they were, like what brand. Like there's no way you could ever determine what brand.

Speaker 2 So I don't know what that is. And, like, he was like walking around with like a trainer and hugging the guy.
He kind of looked like

Speaker 1 a fragile or a

Speaker 1 small avatar or like a small fish. Like, like, uh, is he? He's almost, he almost like looks like otherworldly or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or like, yeah, like dark crystal-ish or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel that.

Speaker 1 Like, he's like, he might get your chakra or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, navy, but small.

Speaker 2 And then, so he was on the treadmill behind behind me with his trainer, and I was doing some stationary bike.

Speaker 2 And I was able to get a little bit more this time. And all I heard was the trainer was saying something about like people being, he, you know, everybody's like, so vain here or whatever.

Speaker 2 The guy's just like trying to connect with them. And then Stephen Tyler was speaking much at a much higher volume and said, there's nothing wrong with being a little vain, man.

Speaker 1 Keeps you looking good.

Speaker 1 He's very pro-vain. Saying that people are vain to Stephen Tyler seems like a psycho thing.
Yeah. Yeah, tell me that.
The guy had pieces of jewelry and shit on the treadmill. It's like, well,

Speaker 1 I've seen a couple of celebrities. I'm sure you see celebrities.
You're right.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're in LA and stuff and you don't even realize it because they're just wearing a hat and they're just like a guy with brown hair or whatever, and they're like 5'11. And it's sort of hard.

Speaker 1 You know, like there's so many guys that look like that. The two that I have known, I saw Stephen Merchant in Vancouver, and obviously Stephen Merchant is like a 6'7.

Speaker 1 And it was, yeah, that was one that I knew. And then the other one I've mentioned before on the podcast was Melrose Larry Green.
That was at a 7-Eleven in Los Angeles, close in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 And the reason I knew it was him is because he was saying, Do you know who I am? I'm Melrose Larry Green to the person who worked. What an experience.
I fucking love. I love the Howard Stern guys.

Speaker 1 I go crazy. Money, it was crazy for me.
Stefan was there with me, past guest Stefan Heck, and he was just like, let's go. And I was like, No, we got to fucking watch.

Speaker 1 This is like, this is my dream, what I'm watching right now. So 8-Mile has a rotten tomato score from the critics of 76%.
It's pretty high. Good score.
Especially back then.

Speaker 1 Especially back then. Back then, by the way, because the new ones are much higher now.
So that's a good score.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I listened to you guys talking about where they're juking the stats. It seems like they do.

Speaker 1 They figured out how to game the system.

Speaker 1 But the popcorn meter, which is the audience score, 54%.

Speaker 1 That's rotten. That's interesting.
That's very low. And I wonder,

Speaker 1 is there like a specific, did it get review-bombed or something?

Speaker 1 Maybe it did, though, by the Trump people when he did his anti-Trump thing. They might have review-bombed it, right? We are doing Eminem guys, so I only picked good reviews.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This first one's great. Five stars.

Speaker 1 To let y'all know, the 50%, 54% audience score is beyond average. I don't know why Shitty Rotten Tomatoes doesn't count 51% and beyond as fresh.
54 is a great score.

Speaker 1 There's more people love this film beyond average.

Speaker 1 Getting in the weeds about the system and like

Speaker 1 how is 54? That's a good angle. I didn't think anyone would take that angle.
Dude, I say, I never would have guessed in a million years that's actually now known as a passing grade.

Speaker 1 It's actually over 50%. Actually, not.

Speaker 1 It's a passing grade. Yeah, 50%.

Speaker 1 No, it's 60% of passing. Yeah.
No, it depends on like it depends on. It depends on what you're doing.

Speaker 1 But yeah, like in school and when you're in like high school or when you're like, you know, 50% is, maybe it's different in Canada because 50%, lower than 50% would be an F, higher than 50% would not be a fail.

Speaker 1 It would be like a 60 and under. Yeah.

Speaker 2 God, that is fucking hilarious. First things first, more than half the people liked it.
That's that's fresh. That is fucking fresh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's kind of right.
I don't like, I'll say this. I don't like what the, I actually don't like the threshold for Rotten either.

Speaker 1 Because because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that it is like it's like a 60

Speaker 1 movie is rotten or a 65 movie is rotten i think they're compensating i think that i think you have to trust the rotten tomatoes people i really i trust them with my life and i believe that they are over they're compensating for what they know is like a bias that movies have so they're like hey the for an audience to be a score to actually be good and fresh it has to be over 60 because they're going to have their built-in fans or whatever that are just going to do it.

Speaker 1 And it's like, they figured it out algorithm-wise. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 Hey, R slash rotten tomatoes and then post it, man. I think you're, you know.

Speaker 1 Except for what they need to figure out is these.

Speaker 1 deceptive players who are involved in this who are managing to figure out how to game this system. That is the big problem here.

Speaker 1 And I would like to, you know, those YouTube expose videos that you see all the time where they're just like, you see what's happening with this YouTuber? Like, you know, he's fucking, you know,

Speaker 1 he killed a whole school village of people. Whatever.
And so I want to see one of those on the Rotten Tomatoes audience score existing

Speaker 1 gaming.

Speaker 2 Figure it out.

Speaker 2 And this, pardon me, I'm sure it's been discussed endlessly, but I don't like that it's become the arbiter for a well-reviewed movie and people not, you know, people just looking like, is it fresh?

Speaker 2 Is it not? And then stopping there.

Speaker 1 It is kind of a bummer. I disagree personally.
I like, I respect that, but I do. I am, I love Rotten Tomatoes.
I would die for Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 1 And I, I believe that when they figure out the system, and I think that, I think it's really nasty people involved who are gaming the system, the mafia probably,

Speaker 1 and terrorist organizations. And when they get that cleaned up, I believe, I really do actually go and look.
And I'm like, if this movie is over 75% or whatever, and with this, I will like it.

Speaker 1 And it, it, it never,

Speaker 1 maybe once out of every 10 movies, it leads me astray. But it really, it's a good indicator for me.

Speaker 2 The only thing, well, just the last thing I'll say this. The only thing it works for on me is if it's poorly reviewed.
If it's well reviewed, I can't trust it.

Speaker 2 But if it's poorly reviewed, it's usually right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 if it's a splat, I'm usually like, yeah, they're probably right. But if it's like a 90, sometimes I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 1 It depends on the amount of reviews sometimes, I think.

Speaker 1 But anything that's been reviewed a lot of times, like over 100 reviews, and it's a 90%er, I can't think of, maybe there's been two or three that where I've been like, what the fuck? This is horrible.

Speaker 2 There's some shit where I'm like, it's like some fucking Marvel thing or something where it's like 100% it should win an Oscar.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 I know. I just saw the thing that was like, they sent out the four-year consideration things for Thunderbolts.
I'm like, that movie fucking sucked, man.

Speaker 1 Thunderbolts was good. Thunderbolts was good.

Speaker 2 That's like on the level of Raging Bumble or something.

Speaker 1 Thunderbolts was good.

Speaker 1 You guys have a negative view of films.

Speaker 1 Thunderbolts was a fun, nice little time. Had a good time.
I believe I was probably on about a half gram of mushrooms. Don't really recall what happened in the film.
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 Like David Harbor, so pumped to do his fucking stupid Russian accent. I was just like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Also, the sad, like,

Speaker 1 the enemy at the end is sadness.

Speaker 1 It's like, I can't do this, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've never experienced that feeling, that just feeling of, you know, you're just like, oh, I just don't feel great, you know? I mean, we've all experienced that.

Speaker 2 The best thing to do for that is family. And then it's like,

Speaker 1 I want him to do it. I love his Russian accent.

Speaker 1 I will say this. I actually like Thunderbolts.
I'm not lying when I say that. I lie a lot, but I'm not lying when I say that.

Speaker 1 The accent is tough. The accent.
That Russian accent is tough, man. When you realize

Speaker 1 this is the whole movie he's going to do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, oh, this guy's in a lot of the movie, and he's not going to stop doing the accent.

Speaker 1 When that sort of sunk in for me, I was like, oh, that does kind of suck. Well, here's a five-star review from Stephen.

Speaker 1 He goes, Eminem's the best. Shame he only got to see his booty.
He could have turned around or sideways, could have been looking at us all sideways.

Speaker 2 He wanted to see Side Dick?

Speaker 1 Could have been looking at us.

Speaker 1 whoever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wanted to see.

Speaker 1 He got to see his booty.

Speaker 1 He could have been looking at us all sideways.

Speaker 1 I mean, all we get to his booty. I'm fine.
I love seeing his booty. Would you think it was perfect? It's his booty.
I'd love to see his penis. His booties in the movie? I believe so.

Speaker 1 I wonder if it's his actual booty or if they did a stunt booty. Stunt booty.
No, but yeah, this guy is like so, he's like, listen, I know. beggars can't be choosers.

Speaker 1 I love this guy's booty quite a bit, and I got to see it. But if he would have turned to the side, I could have also seen his penis.
Yeah, that's really what I was looking for.

Speaker 1 Well, we understand that. Remember, we had that, what's that website that we went to, Brian?

Speaker 1 The rock and roll people website about their penises? Yeah, it's like it's a website where like

Speaker 1 people who have slept with rock stars or whatever will go and post and talk about the sexual experience and the person's penis size and stuff. And we went on there to find out about what's his name?

Speaker 1 Like a rock and roller. No,

Speaker 1 Lars Ulrich's penis. Lars Alrich's penis.
And we found it

Speaker 1 small to me. Yeah, that's what I said.
But he was said to be normal size, but he was also noted to be very annoying by all of the people who we hooked up with.

Speaker 2 Wow. So it's not just his public persona.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 Ways down to Earth.

Speaker 1 So this guy goes, four stars. This is a look into the seedy underbelly of life in America.
It's very difficult to watch from a position of privilege as you actually see how dreadful that life was.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 listen, I don't know that it's that type of movie where there are movies that are like, yeah, where it's just like, I don't know that that's the focus of this movie, really. It's mostly on

Speaker 1 six figures in his bank account being like, I don't know if I can handle this. I don't want to see this.
It's too much. I feel bad watching it.

Speaker 1 Guilty about, yeah, the poverty I'm watching in this film.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is like he is, he is like from the like, the side of the tracks or whatever from Eight Mile and he is that is like a focus of the movie a little bit right is that he's poor and coming from a lot of poverty right?

Speaker 1 Oh yeah. Driving into Detroit they have

Speaker 1 one mile two mile I've been on eight mile.

Speaker 2 Are there a lot of women that look like Kim Basinger that are muhammad?

Speaker 1 Several of them. Actually I just stopped to get food and every time I do it I'm like should we stop in eight mile? I think that's kind of a bad neighborhood.

Speaker 1 But everything I know about eight mile is from the movie Eight Mile. Like, I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? He goes, it's a movie that encourages empathy for those who rely on a one in a million career in music or a lucky bingo card to make rent.

Speaker 1 Everybody should watch it once, but I don't think I will ever watch it again. It's just too raw.

Speaker 1 It's too raw.

Speaker 1 Everyone, every, it should be like, it should be something that

Speaker 1 they play in the schools. Like, everyone does need to see it once, but

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say it's smart to watch it again, just from the psychological standpoint.

Speaker 1 Finally,

Speaker 1 three and a half stars. Acting plus story.

Speaker 1 I loved M's story arc. You've described a movie, sir.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what they are.

Speaker 1 I loved M's story arc on how he came from nothing. The problem I have is with the villain and their beef with M.
It's very one-dimensional.

Speaker 1 Quote, I don't like you because you hurt my feelings, is what it felt like when I'm trying to watch a hardcore movie.

Speaker 1 I accepted the villain to be less, I expected, sorry, he goes, he spelled accepted. I expected the villain to be less butthurt about life.

Speaker 1 So half-star, editing music, the way it was put together was not well paced in my opinion. Kept interest plus recommend.
Not to everyone. Watch again or buy.
Probably not.

Speaker 1 Okay, a little confusing. And finally, I just wanted to.

Speaker 1 This is the last thing we're going gonna do because this is a new part of the show

Speaker 1 oh by the way i did here's just a post from r slash eminem is it me or does minem look so badass with his beard

Speaker 1 he looks so badass with his beard he looks like he's gonna you up

Speaker 1 is that them trying to convince themselves yeah i think that that's like something everybody can agree on that the beard doesn't work but maybe not i don't know yeah no i think the beard looks bad i it looks like woolly willy like i have a beard right now which i don't often have i usually have a mustache like uh he's just trying to he's fishing for compliments but i have it looks we already did it i've already gotten but i i i

Speaker 1 i'm not fishing for compliments because i was gonna comment that uh last episode we recorded and you and the guests commented that my beard made me look like new eminem and it made me seriously consider immediately shaving it off and going back to the mustache because that's how bad of a look i think it is it doesn't look drawn.

Speaker 2 It doesn't look drawn on.

Speaker 2 Do you guys remember when COVID happened? Do you follow DJ Khaled at all?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, of course. Well,

Speaker 1 I follow, like, it's the guy with Bob Marley's guitar.

Speaker 2 So he's got like this crazy beard that's all

Speaker 2 you know, manicured and done or whatever. And then when COVID happened, he couldn't get the beard drawn in and stuff.

Speaker 1 And so he just didn't have the products and it was all like gray and patchy and all that shit.

Speaker 2 And it was this kind of like his fucking you know, carriage turned back into a pumpkin for sure.

Speaker 1 But anyway, I wonder if I was like, is it just Eminem's thing now, or is he gonna like, does he still have the beard? Is that just that's like his look now? Yeah, that's like his full-on look.

Speaker 1 I actually watched Roof Man last night, I watched it in theaters. Channing Tatum's facial hair was so annoying to me, and also I kept saying, tickle me, Elmo wasn't 1999,

Speaker 1 or they didn't have peanut butter MMs in 1999. Those are pretty new.
Anyway, have you ever met Eminem? What was he like? Here we go. I never met him.

Speaker 1 And I won't say I'm the most amazing judge of character, but I know he's genuine and wholesome. I love the man and his work.
Would definitely like to meet him someday. I love the man and his work.

Speaker 1 Definitely like to meet him someday. Have you ever met Eminem? I would say that, now listen, they are just asking, have you ever met him?

Speaker 1 But I would say that this thread is mostly for the people who have met him.

Speaker 1 and are going to answer with the affirmative. And I would say, if you haven't, you don't really need to reply to this one.

Speaker 1 You're not adding. Yeah.
Well, this guy goes, this is the closest I've gotten. When I went to an Eminem concert, I had these kind of shit seats.

Speaker 1 I was really off to the side and didn't have the best view. I did, however, have a great view from behind the stage.
I saw Paul smoking a cigar, Skylar Gray dancing to the music.

Speaker 1 Eminem arrived in a car. What? Westside booking.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, that's like what it, whoa, that's like what I drive.

Speaker 1 That's what I would arrive at if I was going somewhere.

Speaker 2 Same here. I'm freaking out.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure. Me and Eminem have the same thing.

Speaker 1 If you tell me it's a mid-sized SUV, I will ship my pets. Well, Westside Boogie was chilling and talking to some fans during the show.

Speaker 1 I didn't get close enough to say hello, but I waved and he gave me the peace sign back. So

Speaker 1 that's something.

Speaker 2 He reminded me of like Billy Madison, where it's like Billy drinks soda, the guy he pays to spy on Billy Madison or the janitor or whatever.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen,

Speaker 1 I don't even know that that story is true, that he gave the peace sign to the truth. The peace sign?

Speaker 1 I don't know that the peace sign part is true.

Speaker 1 The rest of it is, but he sort of realized he's just like, this story doesn't really have like a good kind of like

Speaker 1 heart. It's like not good enough.
He's like, maybe I throw in that he gives me the peace sign at the end and that it sort of is kind of a meeting.

Speaker 1 That's the concert, too, by the way, where he's probably doing peace. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's doing it to who knows. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like there's a crowd full of thousands of people there. You think that he was doing it right to you?

Speaker 2 It's when you write like a weak

Speaker 2 term paper or something, and you're like, I got to add something else in here. Yeah, but I fucking waved, he gave me the peace sign.

Speaker 1 That's something, yeah, you know. Yeah, and this next guy goes, No, but my uncle has, which is always the

Speaker 1 start to a true story.

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 1 Does he have the story from the uncle? He does have some details. Okay.
Okay. And I love this.
This is one of my favorite exchanges. It was in like 2007.

Speaker 1 His friends were going to meet Eminem, and no one was saying if they wanted to go because they had one more spot. So my uncle said, sure, I'll go.
And they had a whole group photo. Now.

Speaker 1 So they're like, hey, we got one extra spot to meet, Eminem. Does anyone want to go? And everyone's like, no, thanks.
Unfortunately,

Speaker 2 People were like going to go. They didn't have a spot.
My uncle was like, hey, man, maybe I can go.

Speaker 1 And they're like, all right, you can come along. You're the uncle.
Come along with us, uncle. Next reply is, I never even knew he did meet and greets.
You sure? 2007? No way. That was a wild time.

Speaker 1 So now this person's like, you're lying, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was a meet and greet, but maybe it wasn't. He didn't say meet and greet, did he? Like, maybe it was just meeting.

Speaker 1 He said they were going to meet him, which maybe it was a meet and greet, and there was one more spot left in the car.

Speaker 1 Or yeah, maybe it was just a spot in the car and they were just going to meet Eminem. Like one of them was friends with them and they're like, hey, I'm going to go meet my friend Eminem.

Speaker 1 He's a very famous rapper who would like to come with me in the car. We have six seats.
We could maybe squeeze one into the back. Hey, fuck it.
I'll go.

Speaker 1 Next guy goes, I'd fist bump him and say, thanks for the memories. Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 No, honestly, I would respect that. He would respect that.
And they like it with you, Ryan.

Speaker 1 They like it when you treat them like an everyday person because everybody else is like putting them up on a pedestal. So that's what, that's what you don't do.

Speaker 1 What you do is you just treat them like a normal person. Like, what's up, man? You know, what's up?

Speaker 2 Don't blow it. Hey, I think you could connect over the Lions.
It is weird to see him on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 That's so good.

Speaker 1 That's the mindset. Sorry to cut you off.
That is the mindset of those guys. Like,

Speaker 1 well, I mean, I like the Lions. Like, maybe I just start talking to him about the fucking receiver or

Speaker 1 whatever. Jared Goff, dude.
Yeah, yeah. He's just like, he's just like, fucking defenses are really horrible.
You know, like,

Speaker 1 that is such their mindset of, like, if I get them.

Speaker 1 I will never forget, I believe it was the death metal show where a guy was like, I usually don't care to meet

Speaker 1 celebrities, but I was at this concert and they were signing autographs. And I came up and, you know, I got the autograph and I looked at her and I was like, you know, isn't it crazy these

Speaker 1 fans? Like, these people are crazy. They just believe in this like

Speaker 1 celebrity thing. You know what I mean? Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was in the line for the autograph, and he's like, check out these people.

Speaker 1 Fucking sad. It's sad, honestly.

Speaker 1 It's honestly sad. It's honestly.
It's an empty lives. It's just an empty life, to tell you the truth.
That's kind of what a lot of, I think that, like, yeah, that's the worst attitude you can have.

Speaker 1 You want to just accept it. Hey, I'm a really big fan of this person.
I'm really excited to see them. This is a big moment for me and not try to get too excited about it.

Speaker 1 But yeah, those people who are like,

Speaker 1 fuck, man, it's like, it's listen, man. At the end of the day, it's like, fucking, he's got to piss fucking shit twice a day.
Fucking got to have his fucking breakfast. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, we both came out our mom's pussy. We both gonna go in the fucking grave.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Now we're talking about our mom's pussy. Well, now that's a conversation me and Eminem could talk about.

Speaker 1 That's really connected with me. My mom's pussy.

Speaker 1 I met The Rock one time.

Speaker 2 I got to meet The Rock.

Speaker 2 And I I had this whole plan in my mind of how it was going to go because I was working as an intern

Speaker 2 writing script coverage at this production office. And they were doing a movie with him.
And so he's coming in the office. It's a very small office.
It was basically like...

Speaker 1 Holy shit. I hope not too small.
He's a giant guy. He's a big guy.
I'm like, is this guy going to fucking fit in here? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was, you know, it was like early rock too when he was still pretty lune arms.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so, you know, it's maybe there was two principal guys, myself and then they had an assistant and so you know, I'm gonna see him in there. He's gonna talk to these guys.

Speaker 2 So it's not like a it's not like he's flashing the peace sign to a hundred thousand people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to you're gonna interact with them perhaps.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and so I'm thinking like oh shit, you know, he's I played college football.

Speaker 1 We both played football.

Speaker 2 I could, you know, Schwarzenegger. I don't know.
I'm thinking like all this like dumb shit of how we're going to connect. It's basically like the Lions, like, oh, with the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And so he's, you know, coming. We're, we're hearing like his people are calling.
It's like, it's, the tension is building. Like, he's coming in the office.

Speaker 2 And so I'm going to be the first person he interacts with when he comes in the office. And so I'm thinking, like, I'm going to make a joke.

Speaker 2 And that's, this is, we're going to connect, maybe be friends. I don't really think that, but like, you know, it's in the, it's in my mind.
And so he comes in there and.

Speaker 2 sees me and I just say like, hey, you know, I'm a really big fan and you're so funny, something dumb like that.

Speaker 2 And he shakes my hand and makes eye contact and he's very nice and says, thank you so much. And then walks right by to talk to.

Speaker 2 And it was truly like the turnoff energy to where it's like, look, I have people, wrestling fans that come up to me.

Speaker 2 every single day and show me tattoos of themselves or i mean sorry tattoos of me on their body i have to shut this down immediately but still be nice and so he couldn't have been more nice but it was like it true it was like a force field and i it literally like catapulted me backwards.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, okay, I will never bother him again.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, that is that, he's like a gigantic star and a gigantic man, where it's like, he's this imposing figure, and he's just like, yeah, like, I, I don't know, that would be pretty intimidating.

Speaker 1 He's also involved in the sport of kings

Speaker 1 to meet him. I, I met John Hamm at the UCB theater one time.
Suck him off. He asked me if I smoked cigarettes.
I said no. And then he started smoking a cigarette inside and drinking a Budweiser beer.

Speaker 1 He is so fucking cool, man. I was just like, God, that guy is so fucking cool, dude.
He smokes cigarettes. Never talked to me again.
Never said a word.

Speaker 1 He was talking to the guy. He was doing a Mark Wahlberg impression with this guy, Dan.
It was Doug Loves Movies was on stage, and I was doing comedy. Death Ray or Comedy Bang Bang show afterwards.

Speaker 1 And yeah, he was, yeah, so the guy came off who does the Mark Wahlberg impression. Now, I forget what his name is, but he does a very famous one.
And then they were doing it together.

Speaker 1 And I was just like,

Speaker 1 hey, fellas,

Speaker 1 the biggest loser in the world. Finally, there's...

Speaker 2 Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, Eminem, famous interaction with Mark Wahlberg on

Speaker 2 Total Request Live with Carson Daly. And Wahlberg was out there promoting some movie.
Eminem at the height of his fame says like, oh, yeah, hey, what's going on? We're all here.

Speaker 2 We're just one big funky bunch.

Speaker 2 And, like, you can just tell, like, Wahlberg does not like it, or him.

Speaker 1 And oh, my God. Eminem's lucky.
And lucky he wasn't an older Vietnamese man, or Mark Wahlberg might have seriously assumed that he was. What blinded him?

Speaker 1 Finally, there's just two more stories here. One is, yes, based on the situation, I would say he's very grounded and real.

Speaker 1 He didn't really give you the story, but

Speaker 1 that's another way of saying down to earth, grounded and real. Here you go.
This is our our final story of meeting Eminem. I love this story.
Told this story on here before long ago.

Speaker 1 Long ago. What is this? What is this? A guy's podcast retelling a story? Come on.
Once upon a time, not long, right? Because

Speaker 1 I used to rap when I was young, and I convinced Proof to do a verse on my album when I was 18. I drove to Detroit, and he asked me to meet at 54 Sound.

Speaker 1 He gave me the address, and I immediately recognized the name as a big m fan i got there and he told me that my he told me and my homie to sit on the couch tin cup was on the tv while he was the ron shelton movie yeah

Speaker 1 while he finished up and and not to get up he says sit down and he goes king gordy was there and two big goons with guns we're both chilling and next thing i know a small white dude pops out and asks for proof what we are who we are.

Speaker 1 King Gordy was playing an arcade game. Next thing I know, MM came over and said, What's up, fellas? Humble and shy as could be.
We both just said, What's up?

Speaker 1 and looked back at the TV and he walked away. Wow.

Speaker 1 Electric story. That's been the one.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, like the DPS. That's the type of thing, like, that's like the

Speaker 1 closing scene of a movie. Good.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just walk off. And then M just walks off into the second.
He walks off.

Speaker 2 We're back over. We want Deborah Costner to beat Don Johnson and golf.

Speaker 1 What's up, fellas? Humble and shy as could be. Shy as could be.
Wow.

Speaker 1 He's a down-to-earth guy. All right.
That is Eminem, guys.

Speaker 2 He's the guys in the backplane video games. This is, let me just set the picture here.

Speaker 1 So good. Here's a review of his most recent album, Five Stars.
Eminem Can Do No Wrong. And this much anticipated album proves it.
He has a lot to say on a lot of things, as usual.

Speaker 1 If you're from a certain generation or easily offended, listen anyway and man up.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a little bit of a, usually they'll say, if you're from this, don't even bother listening. But now that's kind of

Speaker 1 a curveball. They're saying, listen, it's time to actually listen to it and step across the aisle and start understanding that.
Now,

Speaker 1 I'm confused because I don't know what they think Evin M's politics are or what they're

Speaker 1 killing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, but what is it, like, what is he going to say that's gonna offend them i'm not really sure but anyways yeah i don't know either it's like his slim shady like tony clifton character is you know yeah i'd be like crazy if you found out if you find out that it's not actually eminem that's playing like the same way with andy kaufmana playing it's bob zamuda that's doing slim shady the whole time and he's like ripping off the fucking family and

Speaker 1 man i could have done slim shady when i was like nine or 20 i had like the dyed blonde hair and all that stuff I was so cool. You went to

Speaker 1 I love that look.

Speaker 2 Do you remember when he did the VMAs and like there was a hundred like or a thousand blonde guys that all came out with the white t-shirts? It's a cool performance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I remember it. I thought that was the coolest.
Caused me to go immediately to the drugstore the next day and buy blonde hair dye and dye my hair blonde.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no doubt that he was like the coolest guy in the world for a period of time. That's just like facts.
That is the show. Ryan, dude.
Tell people where to find you.

Speaker 2 Come over and listen to Action Boys. There's some free episodes.
They can

Speaker 1 get a little taste.

Speaker 2 Hopefully we'll hook you in. If not, you know, fuck it.

Speaker 1 Fuck off. It's all good.
Yeah. Enjoy the free episodes.
Yeah, it's all good.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that's live, or no, sorry, that's actionboys.biz.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 I almost said live.actionboys.biz. That was for a live show.

Speaker 1 I know, yeah. I know we have a lot of Action Boys fans who listen to the podcast.
I know that for a fact. They're going to go crazy for for this.
Oh, that's great, everybody.

Speaker 1 I listened to your guys' show.

Speaker 2 I love it. It's so fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 We appreciate that. Seriously, we were joking around before about don't listen, but please, everybody, listen.
We'll see y'all next week.